Victoria's Secret Karen (Abigail Elphick) | Dangers of Having No Sense of Shame

This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Abigail Elphick (aka The Victoria’s Secret Karen)?
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[@blacksuburban2410]

That’s not what actually started it. What started it was, Ukenta was at a rack looking through it when Elphick came right next to her, reached around her, and placed an item onto the rack.. (which wasn’t problematic). The problem was that Elphick stayed right there shoulder to shoulder continuing to go through the rack. So, Ukenta said, “Excuse me,” and asked Elphick to respect the 6ft Covid distance ESPECIALLY since Elphick wasn’t wearing a mask. Elphick didn’t like that and went to the cashiers asking them to call Security because Ukenta was “rude and threatening her.” Being accused of making threats is what prompted Ukenta to start recording. Elphick swung BEFORE realizing she was being recorded. And she swung because Ukenta was refuting the lie that she ever threatened Elphick. It was only AFTER taking a swing that Elphick realized that Ukenta wasn’t going to fight back and instead chose to record. And when she realized that the attack was recorded, that’s when she retreated from being the aggressor, denied the assault, and understood that she was going to end up online.

[@GoodVibesAffirmation]

Exactly! These Karen’s bait you while they are the aggressors bc they know how it will turn out for a black person. Black people are inherently assumed to be the aggressor in ALL situations. When she realized she was being recorded and the lady wasnt fighting back, she went into full “I’m scared” Karen mode. If she was that scared she would have gotten as far away from her as possible!!! Not stay there and swing at her. People wake up to the manipulation please. WW been doing this forever because they can. People still don’t get it. Smh 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@empoweredwoman1021]

A great detailed analyses. I want you on speed dial.

[@cautiouslyoptimistic1962]

Spot on.

[@dawnworthy6358]

Thank you!

[@stephaniehedgepeth5160]

Thanks for giving the public context. I was wondering what the white woman had done for Ukenta to feel that she needed to record their interaction, a defensive tool that black people now have.

[@GigiSkye97]

“She conveniently passed out with her head on a purse” LOL!

[@eveharris30]

How else would you pass out? Gotta protect my cheap purse.

[@jcjcviews]

Yep. I remember that one. That was the move back in the day. Don't like it, whatever it is? Find a comfortable, safe place, and just pass out! Not my fault. I'm outta here, like that, passed out. Can't you see?

[@XeniasWorld]

I didn't even notice 😅

[@BinaBecker]

And she slid to the floor without so much as a dull thud, too. That takes some talent!

[@wadisanaa]

lol you are not very nice Gigi .....not very nice.

[@hippopajamas]

"Dangers of Having No Shame" is the most BRUTAL title.

[@darlalathan6143]

I have no shame, but I don't have public tantrums, lol! I just have public displays of affection in nightclubs, lol!

[@rita6874]

I know many women that have no sense of shame whatsoever. But in their case, they plan more carefully than Elphick and they make sure their horrendous acts are done in secret.

[@misstmemrs]

This is a common extortion game. It is bait and switch. False accusations and then film as if you are the victim. It can cause the target to react from the primitive brain. It is actually physical brain damage and the police understand these games. Probably she has been treated like this menus times and feels she is losing her mind. People are branded racists and told they have no rights and to keep their mouth shut.

[@calmexit6483]

@@darlalathan6143 then you indeed do have a sense of shame

[@stoverboo]

It sounds like the last book ever written by Alexander McCall Smith.

[@brownvirtue]

“I wonder why a woman in her early 20s would be using a strategy more common in 3 year olds” 🤣🤣🤣

[@polarbearsrus6980]

Lots of practice... just guessing.

[@probablynot1368]

She continues to use temper tantrums because she’s had past success with them. How on earth did her family support this behavior? Looks like there’s going to be a major behavioral shift, or correction, in this young woman’s behavior. She was very much aware that there might be consequences from this tantrum, as she told the police of her concerns about losing her job and her apartment. SMH!

[@victoriavezich7914]

20s?? Holy crap I guessed 40 😂😂😂

[@strawbbtarte]

His humor is scathing, I love it.

[@riksstaden4927]

Wow, I read this comment exactly when he said it. It was like my inner reading voice had the sound of his voice!

[@darenstroud6254]

She is also being investigated for falsely reporting a crime to the police. She actually might be in more trouble than she thought.

[@carmenwalker8889]

That would be some justice. I'd file harrassment charges.

[@gij122]

That would be a start.

[@hillarybm92]

Dr. Grande. 1) As a doctor I would assume he would be more concerned about Abigail possibly committing self-harm by publicizing her shame like this. 2) It very well might have been a legitimate panick attack. 3) She might have had other mental issues. 4) It might not have been her fault from the beginning. 5) Race was never brought up by Abigail (the only time race was mentioned was regarding the "white tears" comment from the person filming 6) He also never addressed why the video was posted on social media in the first place 7) He left out possible financial motivation from the person filming getting over 100k 8) it looks like the video was edited prior to posting to social media.

[@IIcute24]

She should according to her Instagram she was “sitting pretty in her car while all the blacks are mad in her DM’s” she is a racist Karen. 🙄🙄🙄😑 she should be locked up in Jail….. she isn’t mentally unstable she is using the same thing that has always been done. Her white privilege to get black people murdered. Emmit Till is a perfect example of this….

[@lorrainemcdonald7982]

@@hillarybm92 🙈😂🤣😂STOP it!

[@bjbj3853]

Notice she never loses her purse during her “panic attack”? Convenient, huh?

[@cerealeater7369]

Also she made sure to throw the garment she was carrying onto the counter before she began her theatrics.

[@mercedespiedra1287]

She used her purse as a pillow as she pretended to faint. 🤔

[@mytoesarecold5555]

@@itsano808 - it’s real. You probably don’t interact with too many people like the fainting lady, and you’re lucky. Unfortunately, I have a mother who acts just like her. It’s awful.

[@ellej3112]

Her brother is on the Autism Spectrum and she could be undiagnosed.

[@theresa78201]

@@mercedespiedra1287 If I ever faint, I hope I am this lucky, lol.

[@yeet7043]

"guess he was having an exhausting day of walking around the mall" THE SHAAAAADE

[@stoverboo]

That was uncalled for. I've worked retail in a mall, and those guys don't exactly have an easy gig.

[@jwhippet8313]

@@stoverboo , it is actually hard to spend the day on one's feet on concrete.

[@Noitsu]

@@jwhippet8313 you mean tile, right? And insoles and good shoes will make a difference tbh

[@BigDaddyDru]

That leg shake is likely something she learned at a young age….

[@fumomofumosarum5893]

Her mother: " Oh no, Henry look! She's having a panic attack! Buy her that pony already, it's the only thing that can cure her suffering! "

[@CC-hx5fz]

Not the first time she's done that.

[@polarbearsrus6980]

I never laughed do hard at a narcissistic fit, she is toxic.

[@deborahmazza8123]

Here I thought she was simulating a seizure. Regardless....bat s**t crazy.

[@Heat_Rush]

More like she learned it from tv.

[@davidwalter2002]

I believe she was in complete control of herself during every second of this. She tried the tactic of threats and aggression, then tried the tactic of crying and becoming the victim. When that didn't work, she slowly collapsed to get sympathy from other shoppers. The leg shaking was an elevation of that sympathy bid, as if she had some medical emergency. Then it was back to a combination of aggression and being threatened as she ran after the other woman while telling her to get away. She knew exactly what she was doing, and had complete control the whole time.

[@bthomson]

And yet I would call her actions "out of control?"

[@davidwalter2002]

@@bthomson I'd call them "over the top." Jim Carrey's onscreen antics sometimes seemed out of control, and yet he always had complete control. And this woman is nowhere near the performer Jim Carrey is.

[@mizztab3677]

I felt like the leg shaking was because her “fainting” didn’t get the reaction she was looking for. Like when a toddler starts the kicking part of a tantrum.

[@vertigo0331]

I know it would be nice if we lived in a black and white, good guys and bad guys sort of world, but this is pretty likely a person with mental health issues. Your personal indifference to the possibility is pretty common when people who don't seem "crazy enough" to most normally functioning people have actual psychological episodes in public. You have absolutely no business speaking with a significant amount of certainty on this issue unless you are experienced in the field of mental health.

[@davidwalter2002]

@@mizztab3677 As a parent, I agree. I saw it my own children. Fortunately, they're not only grown, they're grown up.

[@LillyRose211]

If she was so scared of losing her job and home, I think throwing a full blown tantrum over being recorded was the wrong way to go…

[@deborahlee63]

The tantrum was to gain sympathy to stop recording and upload.

[@Diamond-xl1vs]

@@deborahlee63 well it didn’t work

[@ms.und3rst00d6]

How about just leaving the store?

[@deborahlee63]

@@ms.und3rst00d6 She can't have her way if she leaves.

[@ajohns979]

@iamlilia exactly what I said! 😂

[@ArvinAsh]

I find Dr. Grande's dry-as-a-bone humor absolutely hilarious! 2:50 - I lost it when he said, "geometry and logic don't seem to be Elphick's strong suit!" lol.

[@andreasolis85]

I love those Easter Eggs here and there

[@lovesyah4618]

@Arvin Ash, dry as a bone humor 😂🤣 hilarious

[@alanus18]

😆😆😆

[@chrisdooley6468]

Arvin one of my favorite science channels! How goes it my friend? Great to see you here. Hope all is well

[@1122redbird]

Yea that was a classic. And also when he said "she featured both" when referring Karen's response using a temper tantrum or sympathy to get a response from others. "Featured" LOL

[@hippopajamas]

"Dangers of Having No Sense of Shame" the title is so freaking brutal, 10/10.

[@2degucitas]

I can't believe a grown adult would stoop to act this way. How embarrassing. On the floor having a toddler tantrum.

[@rdhawk929]

I can't believe nobody working there made the decision to call security.. That was utterly ridiculous.

[@Itsunclegabby]

As a PoC, I can't believe you can't believe this.

[@akehapkap6143]

But what is with the filming? I atleast find it pretty offensive that she did'nt stop filming with her phone. I would get pretty mad if someone followed me with a phone, filming. What is the whole point?

[@vrjanice2]

They did call mall security but they took a long time to get there.

[@that80ssongyoulove84]

@@akehapkap6143 to prove her innocence. The adult toddler would probably stoop to anything to look like a victim.

[@cg-ny9078]

K- Know your rights A- Accuse everyone R- Request a manager E- Escalate to authorities N- Neglect reason

[@Lollita23]

Nice 👍

[@melvynobrien6193]

Problem caused by woman filming in the store; had she not filmed, the situation would have been defused. The woman filming was welcoming trouble, to cash in on it.

[@velasericousland2443]

@@melvynobrien6193 She was filming because she wanted to document exactly what this white woman was going to do. With or without being filmed these Karens escalate and endanger poc when they eventually call the cops. Every poc should record these people.

[@roseaduke8835]

@@melvynobrien6193 Guess you didn't see the start, where VS-Karen advanced towards the other woman with her hand raised like she was going to hit her before she noticed the recording & promptly backed up? Good on her for filming, I say!

[@lynnebarrett9912]

Perfect!😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹

[@lindakay1700]

She was laughing out of SHOCK at how this crazy woman was behaving! Elphick is a lunatic...

[@lynx70123]

I read it as nervous laughter.

[@stoverboo]

@@grandmaida7819 It's a good thing Ukenta DID record her bizarre behaviour. Otherwise, when the police arrived, it would have been a matter of a white woman accusing a black woman of assault, and, without exonerating evidence, we know how that would have ended for Ukenta.

[@earthlunatics9145]

And you like to mock people with mental disabilities… 😒

[@tinawindham6958]

Forget all that..let’s talk about that hair hat you have on…

[@pamelamoore8042]

I have never seen anything like this in my life.

[@rossflair6057]

“I also have to wonder why a women in her early 20s would be using a strategy more common in three year olds.” You clearly didn’t wonder very hard.

[@123gozane]

The woman having the fit was in a full blown narcissistic rage. An adult acting like a toddler is not normal and seems to be the manipulation of a narcissist.

[@codacreator6162]

Way too many people like this in America, today. It’s the Freedom crowd - freedom from responsibility to society, others, and for emotional discipline and character. I suspect they were spoiled brats that never emotionally matured and who missed the benefits of higher Ed, opting for over-priced job training (which, far from actually educating them, instead stokes their overblown, infantile egos). I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

[@123gozane]

@@codacreator6162 unfortunately narcissistic personality disorder is usually from being brought up by an abusive narcissistic parent. It is learned and used as a defense mechanism. Not all people with a narcissistic parent becomes a narcissist though.

[@dronesg5417]

@@codacreator6162 "Way too many people in America are like this" Stop deflecting, this behavior is way too common with wh!te women ONLY. Don't make it seem like others have that privilege. You're highly dishonest.

[@PhoenixProdLLC]

Oh you're a psychiatrist too?

[@Roxy0405]

@@dronesg5417 Guessing you've never seen the videos of customers going nuts when their order is messed up at Burger King? Hint: the "Karen's " there don't look like the "Karen" in this video and these women actually DO hurt people.

[@kk-wh3hb]

Somehow, advancing aggressively on someone while screaming,"Get away from me", defines the US.

[@elizabethjordan825]

Seriously!

[@jacquelinehalsey4769]

ABSOLUTELY!

[@mutsaushewokunze6522]

True say

[@jamallabarge2665]

Sad to say, I agree. Troubling part is that the American public swallows this bilge.

[@kk-wh3hb]

@Mattie B including members of my own family 😑

[@Tindometari]

"Dangers of Having No Sense of Shame". Damn, Doc, I've heard of dry and cold, but that's going full Gobi Desert. As such, I salute you.

[@jacquelinechristian9090]

Excellent retort...Wish I had written it!

[@undefinedd1147]

@@jacquelinechristian9090 There's only one "u" in universe.

[@DutchJoan]

You made a wonderful analysis of this particular event. I've only got one thing to add: The woman recording was certainly under the threat of being falsely accused. She says as much: who are they going to believe, her white ass or my black ass (or something like that). Narrating the recording is also serving the purpose of giving context. Threat isn't just imminent threat, it is fear over backlash as well.

[@Benson_Bear]

Yes the sardonic "bye karen", as she came back to get one last shot of the women lying quietly on the ground before going to check on the yoga mats, definitely is helpful context!

[@DutchJoan]

@@Benson_Bear Seriously? That's your argument? Ukenta says it from behind the safety of the camera and I think she kept a rather civilized tongue compared to Elphick. That doesn't mean that there wasn't a threat coming from Elphick, the "damsell in distress", even though it wasn't imminent at the moment Ukenta said it. For her it was a release of tension to laugh. And let's face it, anyone seeing Elphick's behaviour with a little knowledge of how actual mental disturbed people react will call her Karen too and laugh at her ridiculous performance. Elphick is a disgrace to the cause of mental health awareness. Her example makes it difficult for people to learn the right response to a person with a real anxiety attack. And that I find at least as much of a problem. I do have an appropriate response to Elphick: a bucket full of cold water.

[@nikkiq2494]

I’ve passed out from a panic attack. In my room, alone. I almost gave myself a concussion from going down so hard. I cackled at her gentle collapse

[@Sogmabolz]

You mean her soft laydown. That's literally how I would lay on the ground if I was tired. Also sorry about the panic attacks

[@anthonywestjr1063]

Ka-plunk! Well...not! LMAO

[@GaryTisdaleFungkSta1]

Did you see her point to the spot before she collapse🤦🏿‍♂️

[@hansonel]

And strategically placing her purse down as a pillow before "fainting"

[@greenman6141]

Thank you for this. It is v. good to have to explain why this was just an attack, not a panic attack.

[@RustyGraffitiReviews]

Runs at someone while yelling “get her away from me!” Not a physics major

[@LionSPH]

Is this a bill hicks reference? "Hey buddy! C'mere!"

[@scottblack7182]

No she is not 😂❤

[@sabrinakeller7290]

I'm rolling😁

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

@@LionSPH RIP Hicks. We need him and Carlin now more than ever, though, I doubt they would appreciate living in today's world.

[@pepmintpatty1764]

Psychotic

[@DJ-wx2gz]

Doesn't anyone get charged with "disturbing the peace" anymore?

[@user-wd1vd9du2q]

Black ppl do!

[@janedoe3516]

It’s actually quite scary to have someone chasing you, especially when they’re charging at you like Elphick. Honestly, she should be deeply ashamed of her behavior. It was vile. It’s a shame no one asked her to leave the store.

[@bropoke6799]

If she wanted the recording to stop for fear of losing her job, she probably shouldnt have behaved like that

[@rebeccawhite5128]

Yep. If anybody ever turns a camera on me, I'm going to be very, very boring!

[@C.Noble13]

Lot lizards drama Queens 👠 Epstein Victory secrets.

[@wwondertwin]

Yeah! I was like, she could have just said "sorry, I don't know what I was thinking" immediately and just walked away. None of this would have happened.

[@SamiSmolboi]

Imagine bumping into someone accidentally and saying “Oh, I’m sorry.”

[@truest5430]

I think she Immediately knew she f’ed up! But damn, the drama! The privilege lies in the fact that didn’t bother to immediately leave, because she knew the police would be on her side.

[@agron6685]

That woman is in her early 20s?! I guess being a Karen really wears a person out

[@yarnpower]

Yes, hate ages people.

[@alexisvalere4095]

Omg...I thought the same! I assumed she was at least in her 40's!

[@MissMiserize]

Wait, she's younger than me? WTH.

[@manushka7297]

Whaaat! Oh shite, I was thinking late 30's early 40's. Well damn you got me, now I feel bad for her. That's just sad. Nope nvm you have to be lying I refuse to believe that she is in her 20's. 🙅🏾‍♀️

[@ebonybryant8553]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@melissadwiggins]

How hard is it to give a sincere, "Oh, sorry; didn't see you there." and a smile when you bump into someone as often happens in a store. *Eye roll*

[@bashfulwolfo6499]

I’m not stranger to passing out, I get bad anxiety attacks and even my asthma has caused me to collapse during school. The way Elphick just so slowly and softly fell down... it was one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen anyone do.

[@2btpatch]

When I fainted, I hit my head pretty badly.

[@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830]

I watched my brother legit pass out slower than that before. He got too stoned and forgot to breathe.

[@bashfulwolfo6499]

@@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830It’s def possible to pass out slowly, not uncommon at all, it’s just that most of the time someone passing out happens almost immediately and suddenly. I don’t smoke but forgetting to breathe is relatable af to me with my weak ass lungs lmao

[@bruh_hahaha]

He most shocking thing is that she’s only 25. 😳 I thought she was middle-aged.

[@jozilee2098]

Same here

[@nadinenc3097]

Wow.

[@porcelanbab]

And she's a teacher...

[@HumanimalChannel]

Oh really? Truly i would have guess older than 25; 45 maybe. I think someone acting this way Has to be the result of stress. Sure...she can also not be a nice person; but also just out of her mind. Out of control in life. I don't like the situation but I think Elphick certainly needs some help and compassion.

[@realbeautyness25]

OMG

[@bloodypommelstudios7144]

"People asked Ukenta to leave". I really hate situations like this, I guess asking the calm person to leave is the path of least resistance and easiest way to diffuse a situation but gives the loud, agressive people what they want and is completely spineless.

[@Kaye_Venice]

***💯***

[@SumAnonymousAcapella]

There were people in the comments sayin that the black lady should have not scared her. And the black lady had no business in the store. I asked them how that was something logical to say? And they tried to correct themselves by saying..." No no I meant. The black lady should have not shopped there." I was like..... How and the hell is that correct?

[@curiositeatv]

🎯

[@brendamcleod4172]

It is always easier to ask the reasonable person to be reasonable.

[@curiositeatv]

@@brendamcleod4172 except it isn’t reasonable to ask someone who has done nothing wrong to interrupt their shopping and leave because of a wildling.

[@Tskb7]

That woman’s behavior is terrifying beyond words, this is exactly how my mom behaved. It’s like double speak through action, acting like the victim while actively attacking you so blatantly they’ll be physically striking you while screaming begging you to stop hitting them. Or sobbing almost collapsed on the floor in the only exit door way then instantly jumping up to charge at you. So terrifying.

[@rubybitesthedust]

As someone who used to suffer a lot of panic attacks like 4 - 5 years ago, it’s really disgusting to see someone try to fake it just because they got caught about to assault someone.

[@steph7738]

Never thought of using the fake “pass out” before. 🤔 Boss: Why are you so late for work? Me: Umm…passes out 😴

[@ellisrose8017]

😂

[@sweet2sourr]

😭😭😭😭

[@moniqueb8545]

😅🤣😂 Don't forget to lower yourself down gently and grab a pillow on the way so you don't hurt yourself.

[@mschill5575]

That's awesome! 🤣🤣😂😂

[@jamesdeanstratford9585]

@@moniqueb8545 don't forget the leg shakes😂😂

[@jessicagomez3249]

Everyone around them went about their day... unbothered but the whole situation, why wasn’t she just asked to leave by the manager....

[@assalane]

Bystander effect I guess.

[@dreamznaspiratons7064]

Must be NYC or a major city

[@maddiek3352]

If I was an employee or manager I think stepping in would just make it worse. She obviously wants a lot of attention

[@Hannah-zw9ow]

From my experience working retail when we had a situation with an irate and disrespectful customer we basically just ignored her as much as we could until security arrived. I think because directly confronting a customer is dangerous, it’s the same reason we can’t stop someone who’s stealing.

[@davidperez5089]

I would've dumped a bucket of water on the clown meself.

[@Maerahn]

"Oh no, this woman is recording me - how can I save this situation and stop myself being publicly embarrassed? I know - I'll act like I'm totally unhinged!" Ermmm, okay Karen... you do 'logic' your way, I guess...

[@father2mother3]

It's a lot more sinister than that. She's playing a fragile white woman to play the law against her victim. They see a white woman distressed over an african american person doing anything and immediately criticize them. Thats what the victim was referring to when she mentioned "protecting myself" or "this is how they killing us". I wish the deepest form of shame and just punishment on Abigale.

[@SEOshogun]

9:30 "I also have to wonder why a woman in her early 20s would use a strategy most common in 3 year olds" 🤣 Dr Grande, you slay me!

[@sstritmatter2158]

People like her are manipulative from my experience. They use victimhood both to escape wrongdoing and as veiled aggression.

[@LazyIRanch]

She could, and should have been charged with assault. Assault isn't necessarily physical contact, it's more about the threat. "An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal or civil liability."

[@eleanoraquitaine2966]

I'm fairly sure this worked for her when she was little and continued to work until she left home.

[@myrasmama]

That was definitely veiled aggression in my view. Nothing womanly about that as it takes place in Victoria's Secret LOL

[@myrasmama]

@@eleanoraquitaine2966 she's definitely a toddler. That's exactly what I found myself looking at when I watched the video. First thing that popped in my head.

[@ladibyrd]

Exactly

[@TheLittlebats]

I don't understand how no one told her to shut up. I can't handle children screaming, I certainly wouldn't be able to tolerate a grown ass woman acting like that.

[@cdorothy444]

It’s for self protection, the crazy won’t listen to you and if you trigger them, they hit you. Never speak to crazy people

[@NLR759]

Because she's an unpredictable lunatic, and they didn't want to get in an altercation with her also.

[@CC-hx5fz]

I would have no problem ignoring that. It seems that, for most of this incident, the woman filming is the only person actively noticing her.

[@ghostdog2041]

Lemme tell you how to make it home. Head down, eyes to shoes. I didn’t see nuthin’!

[@MrCmon113]

Maybe you should work on your composure. Children scream all the time, you should "handle" that easily.

[@poetcomic1]

Her totally irrational commands, fake passing out etc. are some of the best comic bits I've seen in ages.

[@janemilford6162]

I definitely wouldn’t want this lunatic looking after my children, even as an assistant. Must be where she is copying her tantrums from. Remove this unbalanced individual with mental health problems from being next to children from concerned member of the public

[@yes_anotherone3260]

Any black person who has the police called on them is in danger...and the Karens who threaten or make these calls KNOW THIS.

[@julietdallaire8444]

YES! Thank you! ❤👏

[@fillemptytummy]

@@julietdallaire8444 How did "Karen" become the name for women that flip out when being videoed?

[@julietdallaire8444]

@@fillemptytummy Now without the link, in case KZbin takes down my reply with the link: I read online about the history of the meme. The sources generally say the origins are uncertain but most sources suggest it was first used by African Americans to counter-frame the intersection of classism and racism they faced. Most sources say the Karen trend fully broke through in 2018. I also read that "Becky" is the younger version of a Karen.

[@chubbrock659]

As a white male, I can say they do it to us also. Try facing a white female in court for any reason. We lose every time.

[@atheteusalexopoulos6876]

It's no different from suicide by cop. Now it's homicide by cop.

[@caseyw.6550]

This is THE most embarrassing thing I've EVER seen. My 4 year old would never!

[@Ad-Lo]

I'd give mine something to cry about if they tried!

[@libbylandscape3560]

Yep, I’ve known 3 yo’s who were better behaved, then again their parents knew their responsibility, did it, even when it was inconvenient.

[@lexilove253]

@@Ad-Lo what? Would you abuse them? "Give them something to cry about" idiotic statement to perpetuate abuse and your own low emotional control

[@XtremeConditions]

I'm more surprised at no one believing she really was just having a breakdown and that woman recording her was only adding to the issue.

[@caseyw.6550]

@@XtremeConditions Yeah, we aren't buying it.

[@HandbrakeBiscuit]

I'm not diagnosing anyone in this situation... ...I don't need to, she's clearly just plain nuts...

[@sabrinakeller7290]

I wouldn't say nuts, I would say spoiled She's perfectly aware of what she's doing. It's embarrassing.

[@Ad-Lo]

No home training.

[@lionandlamb4754]

Bat Sh!t Crazy is my diagnosis

[@pepmintpatty1764]

Nuts, perfect trail mix

[@pepela5739]

@@sabrinakeller7290 Do you have access to her medical history? I don't think so.

[@xino_z]

When I'm scared I laugh. My Mom does too. She gets pulled over and it's giggles. I think the Ukenta was afraid of the police BELIEVING the lady gyrating on the floor.

[@DrgnTmrSirGawain]

Great comment on shame. I've always felt that the U.S. is suffering from declining levels of shame in societies.

[@PaolaBianka]

“She moved to the ground in such a slow pace that no injury would occur there “ 😂

[@Wooley689]

LOL. Reminds me of Tim Conway falling down stairs on Carroll Burnett show.

[@GaryTisdaleFungkSta1]

She put her finger to her lips and then pointed to the spot and rolled into it😆🤦🏿‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

[@PaolaBianka]

@@GaryTisdaleFungkSta1 hahahahaha 😂

[@spaceballs44]

I have epilepsy and I wish I could go down that soft and slow.

[@katbar6066]

Very droll!!

[@loristewart800]

She should have been arrested., for charging at the black lady. That was no panic attack.

[@princessyo2541]

RIGHT !!

[@Katiegirlluv]

Yes if it was the opposite situation and the Black woman had chased the white woman, she would have been arrested no doubt.

[@marciemc01]

AGREED!! 💯%

[@janeyd5280]

She didn't touch her. There's a lot of what ifs.!!!!!!!!

[@breonnapace3501]

@@janeyd5280 she did touch her😂

[@jessicam5712]

I can understand why ukenta was upset about the police, they wouldn't make Karen leave the mall despite the fact that she chased Ukenta through the store and they seemed to question her account.

[@chelseaaguilar2525]

she 1,000% was threatened! even if she was laughing, especially after Elphick called the police. Lets be honest, the chances of the police believing a white distressed women over a black calm one is high in our society. Even in Ukentas video, you can see everyone helping elphick while doing nothing to ask Ukenta if she was okay, even after witnessing Elphick charge at Ukenta.

[@esmeraldaw5089]

Looks like a typical narc move; first provoke and when you get hit back, then play the victim lol

[@DwyaneWadeCounty]

My beautiful min pin does this to my bigger labrador and to stray cats. He bullies them and when they try to stand their ground, my min pin crys for help like he was the one attacked, even though no one actually touched him. The woman in this video literally acts just like my spoiled and pampered min pin..

[@AlexisTwoLastNames]

@@DwyaneWadeCounty this is such a great comment in so many ways lol

[@kathleenreardon8943]

Oh so true. The drama is totally a narc in action.

[@LDiamondz]

I don't know if she was a narc or not. We can all agree she was a damn fool. Just a petty arse fool. 25 years old, what's she going to be like at 65? 😆

[@sallycannon287]

My thoughts exactly. Sociopath probably.

[@tiffbeevachou108]

The 'fainting' is just like the "fainting spells" my narcissitic mother had when she didn't get her way and wanted attention. 🙄

[@alexisvalere4095]

LOL...I know what you mean! My neighbor's narcissistic full grown adult brother when he can't get his way and starts to cry and pass out! I've witnessed it and its pathetic and funny at the same time!

[@ebonybryant8553]

I'm so sorry you had to grow up with that

[@dustrepellent8986]

Wow y’all! I believe ALL of your experiences. Narcs are a trip!

[@mionrugheart2340]

Gosh

[@Shadowx157]

@SweetiePie Cakes Narc's are so common these days it's strange

[@longdistancestulla3805]

First let me say, i just found this channel and i love your content. However on this video, i think there should have been more focus on the fact that elphick ( a white woman ) was weaponizing the police against ukenta( a black woman) . It almost worked because the cops were less sympathetic towards ukenta despite her being the victim. the "tantrum" was for effect, it had nothing to do with shame. She called the police in hopes of getting ukenta arrested or worse. Ukenta was aware of this and this is why she was "laughing" as she narrated everything, it as more a nervous laugh more than anything else. and she was 100% right to do so. She was reading from the same playbook as the white woman who called the cops on the black bird watcher in Central park. Ukenta was on code and it potentially saved her life.

[@adamgardiner5869]

The one thing a POC should never do is stop recording. The internets has taught me that.

[@hansjuker8296]

Except when they're beating the shit out of old white people. Then they should stop recording. It gets them in so much trouble.

[@stoverboo]

@@hansjuker8296 Please post a link to the video you describe. I've never seen that.

[@stubstunner]

@@stoverboo - you have Google no?

[@chuave152]

From all the public freakouts that I have seen this is one of the most bizzarre ones mostly because of how fast Karen changed strategies.

[@sydneyd2094]

This is high level Karen perhaps

[@candynickel]

All while being filmed, as if she was getting a few "takes". Did she think someone would cut out the part where she dramatically changed demeanor several times?

[@tadmccalister2234]

@@sydneyd2094 This is 4-d chess level Karen.

[@bthomson]

This is Masterclass acting Karen!

[@loofahsswanson559]

She’s only in her 20s too. Plenty of time to perfect her technique 😬

[@vsmith1688]

"I guess he was having an exhausting day of walking around the mall." 😂😂😂 Dr. Grande is so shady and I'm here for it.

[@alexisvalere4095]

I know, love it!

[@TonyaTko]

You totally skipped over the racial dynamic. Ukenta being asked to leave was in essence the taking of Karen's side with the "halo effect" of her whiteness. If Ukenta (a BW) were "screeching".... do you think she would have asked Elfa to "leave? " So many layers to this one

[@LoveJungle420]

"Geometry and logic don't seem to be Elphic's strong suit. " Dr. Grande Roasting 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@rashb3994]

"I guess he was having an exhausted day of walking around the mall.". 😂 The deliveries are subtle yet sharp.

[@chynnadoll3277]

That’s our Dr. Grande❤️❤️🥰👍

[@catherinebarton3952]

@@chynnadoll3277 Maybe, just maybe he felt awkward on camera, I think I would also.

[@lyteyearz5810]

I swear 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Bomber411]

Do you realize how much dumb bs these people put up with in one mall shift? He's likely been there for years.. look at the bags under his eyes. Exhausted.

[@judycallender7308]

More likely an exhausting day of dealing with Karens.

[@Webbgurl2000]

She’s doing what’s been working for her an ENTIRE LIFETIME. Nothing new here. Just the video to prove it.

[@jessepancamo8449]

U Don't know that.

[@SoulSir5vr]

@@jessepancamo8449 Neither do you

[@jessepancamo8449]

@@SoulSir5vr ok n lover

[@SoulSir5vr]

@@jessepancamo8449 I don't know what that is 🤷‍♂️

[@jessepancamo8449]

@@SoulSir5vr lol. Yea u do

[@CharlieTheTexan]

I'm glad you're talking about the emotion of shame and its usefulness in everyday life. I've been saying it for years.

[@Retrosenescent]

This is why I always carry my phone with me everywhere I go. It is our only protection from Karen's and police officers: proof.

[@fk3958]

I’ve had panic attacks and I can barely talk, breathe, and move let alone call the cops. Never did I have a temper tantrum during a panic attack. I have hyperventilated, tried to ground myself, and literally couldn’t carry a conversation with anyone else. I almost called 911 after my first one but took myself to the ER because I thought I had a heart attack. Panic attacks are so scary and most of the time you feel like you can’t breathe. She never said anything like that. She was manipulating the situation. The doctor got it right 100%.

[@Potato_Bug]

I’m sorry, I have panic episodes too, and unfortunately a lot of people who don’t seem to equate them with temper tantrums… far from. I still remember the first panic attack I had, how tight my chest was, how I felt like I couldn’t breathe, it’s terrifying and you can’t just snap out of it. Even after years and therapy, I still have panic attacks, and while I may become irritable, overwhelmed, and have to leave, I have never, nor have I witnessed anyone I know who also have panic attacks ever behave other than maybe crying, like this lady. She definitely behaved in an attention seeking manner- panic attacks are not attention seeking.

[@oncode7735]

So glad I got over mines. You got to simply release and ride those waves and face that fear

[@bichen-up-ur]

Yes panic attacks are no joke and should never be used as an excuse for this type of behavior.

[@NinaFMoretti]

I also had them, and I only managed to went the nursing room where I worked or asked someone to take me to the hospital. I couldn't breathe, stop crying and talk normally. No way in hell I could scream (one time the nurse took one hour to get my personal information because I couldn't speak, so she gave oxygen and keeping saying "every thing is fine, you're ok, I'm here" and if she needed to go to another room, she always said" I'm right back, but if you need me, make some noise" (it was a small nursing on the mall, so she would have listened). I once talked to a Uber who also had them and he told that he had the same symptoms but would also pass out, and because of that he stopped working as a driver for some time because on one time he only had time to stop the car on the sideways (he was telling me how better he got and how important is to take care of yourself). I mean, this lady is something else -.-... She's just trying to manipulate people.

[@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens]

Word.

[@Smackdabbed]

Geometry and logic elude Elphick as she closes the distance while screaming "get away from me" as I wipe the tears of laughter from my eyes. Well done Doc

[@jeromepeats2480]

Are there any ex-boyfriends we can interview concerning this mayonnaise flavored phsycho? We only want a moment of your time, sir/s.

[@LlamawithHat]

@@jeromepeats2480 unnecessary 🙄

[@mizrelmizrel]

😆🤣👏🏾

[@mizrelmizrel]

@@jeromepeats2480 I would like to hear that too🤭

[@Smackdabbed]

@@jeromepeats2480 more likely a ‘fall-guy’ pun intended 😂

[@anastasiabeaverhausen8220]

This woman never advanced out of the toddler stage. We've all done this--but when we were infants, and then most of us grew up. One reason is that we realized how absurd we must look.

[@erimcfairy9353]

Could've been solved with a sincere "oh, I'm sorry!" and then moving on, but this is choice I guess

[@Cynnas]

I imagine she's spent her whole life acting this way to one degree or another to get her way.

[@toffeenut1336]

Bingo

[@ellej3112]

Exactly! Elphick probably throws tantrums to get whatever she wants and just responds violently, swatting/hitting and charging at others.

[@chad3232132]

Guarantee she did it every time she got in trouble as a child, and her parents ALWAYS gave in to her, rather than disciplining her as most of our parents did when we tried that crap.

[@jakeackermann9059]

Yeah probably. She learned early on that people will give in to her just to get her to stop acting so annoying.

[@mrguy561]

@@chad3232132 It's literally like watching a two-year-old who got their toy taken away for misbehaving. She needs a timeout.

[@mssugahill]

I love how everyone in the store, just kept on keeping on. One woman was like “yes, so anyway, I was supposed to get a free panty?”

[@ashleewhittlesey7874]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Bella_Noches_]

🤣🤣🤣 gotta get that free panty!

[@berylwheaten9385]

Their were minding they own business and didn't want anything to do with the crazy Karen

[@Lover-of_TRuth]

😂😂

[@idesireit31]

I dont, they should have checked her instead of the victim. The staff should have escorted her off the premises immediately! If the Black woman had lunged at that lunatic , she'd have been arrested.

[@solarasolara3033]

I saw this video and my gut reaction to seeing this woman's temper tantrum was complete anger. I watch "karen" videos... the second they start that screech, I have a gut reaction that takes me back to my childhood with dear old mom....and it provokes feelings of wanting to run. All the Karens have that shrill voice that makes it hard for me to think clearly... I'm not kidding at all... it hi-jacks my ability to think... which is why I'm trying to desensitize myself to it since we see it more and more these days. Where does that unnatural demon bird-like shrill come from and why don't they use that in horror films?

[@xolilemthembu2756]

Imagine if Elphick did what us normal humans do when we unintentionally bump into someone, we apologize!!! She would not be trending for this madness...

[@strikingly105]

I laughed when he said that geometry and logic don't seem to be Elphick's strong suit.

[@czechraiser]

Same. Neither are acting, beauty, or sensible reaction. Maybe it's leg shaking.

[@LindaLooUK]

The thing that got me was how everyone else in the store ignores her and goes about their business as if this was an everyday occurrence. 😂

[@jackienolan9142]

Free panties day at Vickies illicits this response from Karen’s usually 😂😂

[@phongphong4640]

This is called New York City Attitude! Kid's play. Nothing exciting. Those two women are simply bored and lonely.

[@LemonEyeDrops]

Just another day in retail 😂

[@Ali-kb8gr]

Right

[@DarthFurie]

@@phongphong4640 seriously! As a NYer I ignore worse than this every single day lol...

[@katiehallman3578]

I can’t believe your saying this was temper tantrum and stuff. She has a mental deficiency. She lives in assisted living. You really need to retract this is really awful. This makes me want to cry.

[@stephthedinosaur2420]

The saddest part is that these days people get together like mobs and they move in whatever direction the others are moving, and if you have a different understanding or opinion of the situation, you are completely canceled out. It's humanity making the same stupid mistakes over and over again throughout history but with different tools. It used to be pitchforks, now it's smartphones and social media. So, since one person decided to upload a video calling her a belittling name that's being used for certain kinds of women, people automatically assume and go into a position of judgment instead of critically analyzing the information and questioning what's missing... Anyways, I believe you.

[@Seabacon346]

That title tho! I love Dr. Grande 😂🤣😂🤣

[@bricksloth6920]

I think that shaking thing with the legs is technically called a "temper tantrum"

[@jupeter24]

lol, yes.

[@GreyRock100]

It was hilarious

[@chad3232132]

Yep. This is what happens when you throw temper tantrums as a child and your parents ALWAYS give in.

[@curtis1344]

More like a tremor tantrum

[@bricksloth6920]

Like those alien critters that travel under the sand?

[@Maru18]

"Geometry and logic don't seem to be Elphick's strong suit." LOL, This is what I came for and he didn't dissapoint!

[@nefelibata636]

his dry wit is wonderful, it's like a fine wine.

[@karifoto]

Lol no doubt

[@brandonmuse5532]

TRUTH!!!!!!!!💯💯💯

[@tenslider6722]

lol

[@jeffstellarry7996]

Doc's dead-pan humor is the best!

[@ralphcantrell3214]

When somebody starts recording you, just remain silent, take out your phone, and have a “record off” with them. In the end, the one who is being vocal will be labeled the “Karen”, so just remain calm and record. Eventually they will give up and leave knowing they failed to get the kind of footage that will embarrass you and nobody would even want to watch it.

[@Beverly2020]

Love how the shoppers and staff just carried on as though this lady wasn’t falling to the floor and screaming. 😂

[@sarahg2653]

Whatever happened to saying "oh, I'm sorry" when you accidentally bump into someone?!?!

[@Ad-Lo]

Huh? Apolo.... what?! It's 2021! Apparently we don't do that anymore...

[@JustMe-ob3nw]

I don’t think the black lady would’ve stopped - she was out for blood, and she got it - even if the other one had apologized she would have made up whatever she wanted about the lady - her only mistake was to throw that tantrum

[@CatTigress1]

@@JustMe-ob3nw I can't understand why pulling out your phone to record in the first place? People are looking for drama for attention.

[@JustMe-ob3nw]

@@CatTigress1 👍🏻 you are absolutely right

[@lexilove253]

@@CatTigress1 did you even listen? Bc that lady throwing a tantrum came rushing toward the lady recording as if to hit her.

[@user-te5po4bu8o]

You can’t remove someone from a place if they’re screaming and carrying on? That’s weird.

[@terracottakim8234]

Not if white

[@maxinehayes7721]

They would in UK. I was surprised the manager didn’t step in and try and diffuse the situation.

[@mrguy561]

They could, but they're too afraid of getting sued for some bs reason or another.

[@susan9630]

It's bullshit. They didn't want to.

[@Maria-qh5hr]

Yes you can and you will not get sued if the customer is having a aggressive temper tantrum! usually the cops or security escort them out!

[@Mauteaches]

🤣😂🤣I need to get back to work, but Dr. Grande keeps putting out thee best posts! The sarcasm gets me every time! 😝

[@jessayaki9496]

A grown woman having a literal temper tantrum in the middle of a store like a toddler. I'm disgusted.

[@sanoliver3177]

Well I’m 51 and I’ve had anxiety and panic attacks since I was 17 and I’ve never acted like this psycho.

[@polarbearsrus6980]

Good, you're probably not a narcissist.

[@openyourmind3763]

Hey there, I am sorry you have had to deal with that for so long. I am a therapist and am wondering if you feel like you have good support or counseling? Have you heard of EMDR, which stands for Eye Movement Desentitization and Reprocessing? It is a type of therapy technique that helps reduce distressed feelings around stress, traumatic memories, loss, etc. I have clients get amazing relief on anxiety with it. If you look at some KZbin videos about it and find a local therapist that is trained in it, it might get you more relief. Clearly you are a good hearted person and deserve to be freer and happy. Much peace to you!

[@sanoliver3177]

@@polarbearsrus6980 definitely not but I WAS married to a narc for 20 years and I’m so much better wo that headache.

[@polarbearsrus6980]

@@sanoliver3177 Ex daughter in law is one, what a mess that divorce was. I feel for you, glad you got away.

[@sanoliver3177]

@@polarbearsrus6980 oh me too. I’ve been free from him 11 years and it has been the best 11 years ever!!!.

[@provethioaltum3276]

"Dangers of having no sense of Shame" 😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 Sounds like 90% of Humanity

[@bthomson]

I'd rather think of the bad apple state of things. Hopefully most of humanity is not shameless - but those who are cause much of the trouble in this world! This makes it seem as though their number is magnified!

[@bobshenix]

Buckle up it's only going to get worse.

[@elenaoakes8494]

I mean half of us are walking around with crippling anxiety

[@asurlybarber3620]

"I'm so tired of this f**king world!" -Tommy Wiseau in "The Room"

[@therenegadepianotechnician5170]

There is IN DEED such a thing as a healthy sense of shame.

[@taramoonshadow363]

This was a GOOD one, Dr. Grande! ...very informative.

[@aicilaazlabas934]

Wow you observe every detail so naturally. So many things u said went right over my head.

[@suethiell165]

Security leans against one of the fixtures in the store. "I guess he was having an exhausting day of walking around the mall." LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jcjcviews]

Yeah, he's getting up there in age. And judging by the bags under his sad eyes, the wife and kids must have taken a heavy toll. Does he ever sleep?

[@msann60154]

@@jcjcviews He was sleeping then!

[@xo1762]

Getting those 10 000 steps is WORK!

[@10AntsTapDancing]

Probably having an exhausting day dealing with women having tantrums over nothing.

[@fussbudgetstories]

When the store employee called security, the employee probably told security that Karen is back. Security takes his time arriving at the scene in hopes that Karen would just leave, because he probably didn't feel like dealing with a Screeching Karen today.

[@marylarson2830]

I have never seen anyone faint in slow motion. WOW, especially cause she fell on her purse, CONvenient.

[@ebonylocks9234]

I've fainted before and it wasn't anything like that.

[@WillieBojangles501]

I've fainted before from a standing position as well, and I went down HARD!

[@jasperrosa1369]

I have seizures and fainting spells due to psychological distress. Unfortunately a lot of the times my classmates believe their fake. They do look different than seizures due to epileptic ones (im sure as I've never seen someone have an epileptic seizures). But I can say regardless of what the fainting is caused by you don't slowly fall ESPECIALLY conveniently on a purse.

[@rebeccaed2018]

@@jasperrosa1369 I've fainted and had some sort of seizures and I have to say I have at times "fainted slowly", meaning I felt lightheaded and strange, and I went down carefully to avoid falling and getting hurt. If you have "warning symptoms" like lightheadedness, tunnel vision, "swooshing" in the ears, like I sometimes have, then you can be able to do that. That said, I don't think she fainted here.

[@jmlewis435]

LOL

[@lawrencewiley3104]

Love your channel DR.

[@lizcolglazier932]

Your videos are always entertaining! Love your wit!

[@withgoddess8029]

Whatever happened to "oh my goodness I'm so sorry please excuse me". That's worked for me for 6 decades.

[@DJSockmonkeyMusic]

Why would elphik apologize for something she did deliberately? Several eyewitnesses have reported that Elphik both shoved and verbally abused Ms Ukenta, who was simply shopping at a sale table and otherwise minding her own business. This is what comes from a president giving racists permission to act out on their bigotry.

[@alexisvalere4095]

It doesn't work anymore because too many people nowadays are on psychiatric medications and their brain chemistry is all messed up, so...

[@sweetvictory89]

I hate to make it a race thing but I've noticed across a few different states White people do not say excuse me. At least not to Black people. They will stand so close, reach over you, squeeze by in a little space, or brush by as though we are not there. I've experienced it, witnessed it, and seen videos.

[@DJSockmonkeyMusic]

@@sweetvictory89 the passive aggressive thing by white people against people of colour is a time tested method of putting poc "in their place", because it's a little bit safer than outright aggression AND it can be hidden and denied more easily. And it's not us making it about race, it's the racists who decide to attack people of colour who make it about race. The victim just wanted to buy some underwear and Karen pushed her out of her way.

[@vikik4714]

@@TheINFJChannel You are right about the personal responsibility part, however, it does not change the former president's speeches' part - his responsibility for creating atmosphere of exclusiveness in this country. He threw America decades back over this question, and that is why society pushed back and BLM exploded.

[@karleighelizabethlust4994]

Dr. Grande’s voice is so calming!!

[@stancexpunks]

I like that you included the actual footage of what you’re talking about!

[@k.c1126]

My impression is that Elphick has done this before and won the situation. Her actions seem too practiced.

[@gix2lee]

Yes and it started w her parents.

[@myrealcalifornialife7458]

I heard her mom works for the police department so I’m sure she has done it before. You can hear her on the phone saying mom have the police come! What an absolute bitch and if she was my daughter I would be absolutely embarrassed and ashamed!

[@no_peace]

She won this too, in the moment. They started blaming the woman who was filming. Totally typical

[@no_peace]

@@myrealcalifornialife7458 Oh my gosh that's where she learned that "stop resisting" technique..."stop threatening me! Get away from me!" (while she chases her)

[@Ragamauffin]

@@myrealcalifornialife7458 wasn't the police mom thing a misinformation? Think I've read that the alleged "mom" only shares the same name or something.

[@tove236]

If she hadn't done anything as the black woman started filming, it would have been nothing, and her job and apartment would be safe. Everything she did made it 10 times worse. But, this is probably how she's been acting since she was a child, to get out of trouble.

[@caroliner2029]

I'd bet that too. At the part where Elphick "falls down" on the floor, I had instant recall of memories of my (younger) Narcissist sister doing exactly that to get out of doing anything she was told to. My Narcissist mother used to laugh loudly at the drama. They both fed each other's dysfunction.

[@Tabby.cat2]

@@caroliner2029 wow. That must have been a soap opera to watch 😳!!

[@caroliner2029]

@@Tabby.cat2 it was! She grew up to be a professional victim, and attached herself to a man who exhibits a lot of Co-Dependant traits (compulsive caretaking, making endless excuses for her lies, spite, antagonism, etc), so she has another enabler now. Before I started no contact with her, her husband used to complain that she'd stonewall him (silent treatment) when she didn't want to do something. Narcissists aren't interested in personal growth, only control and power over others through manipulation. My sister is a stunted individual. I've been watching Jamie Lynn Spears' behaviour with interest. Britney and her sister are poles apart.

[@Chefsandrajm]

I am so ready for this!

[@user-yk3sl4xd6x]

I respect your honesty ! You do know what you’re talking doctor Grande

[@sheritaa3032]

Same thing I was thinking. This "coping mechanism" has probably been her most effective default setting😒

[@AvecPoesie]

Yup, since she was 2, apparently.

[@mytoesarecold5555]

I bet she’s a middle child. Dated two of them. They acted just like her.

[@LiquidSwan]

I was both middle child and first born. What then huh?

[@keltaruusutravels4024]

I agree. Freaking out to get her way is something she is very practiced at doing.

[@juneaskew6871]

YEAH RIGHT! ONLY WHEN SHE'S DEALING WITH BLACK PEOPLE! I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SHE DOES THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS. ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

[@StephSunshineArtistry]

Black people in America have to stay calm under threat. Otherwise there might be very bad consequences. It doesn't mean she didn't feel threatened. It's that the threat of not being calm was even bigger.

[@deathbywords]

Very true.

[@TheoCynical]

Yeah, it's definitely unfair but we've gotta be more composed even though the situation doesn't warrant it.

[@timewithuknoreed6572]

Well said

[@deidaratrue5561]

very true, I am Native, and we must ALWAYS stay calm.

[@KindTiffany]

YOU ACTUALLY GET IT. We can't have emotional reactions in these type of situations like other races can. We must suppress our emotions regardless of how we feel....it's called self-preservation.

[@molliesharp7288]

I have been watching you for years and you helped me through graduate stats - I celebrated your recent achievement of 1M!!

[@MzTiffanyRivera]

First time I heard this man keep it real!! Thank u!

[@jennyfa23]

Karen called the police and gave a false accusations saying the woman was threatening her. In New Jersey that's a crime, she waisted the Milburn police department time and resources

[@Poppasgottabrandnewbagofcrack]

I agree it would make more sense to have money put into a lot more mental health services because this lady is clearly ill, I see it everywhere, she’s also trying to manipulate and control the situation by using her victimhood.

[@tedtimmis8135]

Agreed. This woman Elphick woman is a criminal sociopath.

[@ellekim9615]

Wasted

[@DigitalBrain22]

I’ve dealt with Karens like that but unfortunately I was the one who lost because I’m black. In both cases the Karen was someone interviewing me for a job and even though I have 2 PhDs I was denied the opportunity because I didn’t look American enough. When I asked what that meant they ( Elaine Hatcher and Amanda Deans at Lackland base) said that I needed to be white to be considered an American. This happened this year( 2021).

[@tedtimmis8135]

@@DigitalBrain22 I suppose this is possible but I’m very skeptical. There must be something more to the story because everything I’ve seen is completely the opposite.