Video Game Collector Calls Me A Fraud

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Last year I exposed fraud and deception in the retro video game market. Not everyone was happy though. One such collector who owns many ultra expensive games made a video claiming I was lying for views and money. In this video I respond.
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[@karljobst]

I am disappointed at the amount of comments from people attacking his appearance etc. Please rise above being like that. Debates like this are just fun for the sake of them. Enjoy it for what it is and don't be hateful.

[@sofknupbeat]

Good guy Karl.

[@Singingnoob-3minutesdirty]

Attack the argument, not the person

[@blatantslander]

Idk bro I kinda like dissing about appearances

[@Singingnoob-3minutesdirty]

@@blatantslander anime pfp

[@blatantslander]

@@Singingnoob-3minutesdirty Can't we do both

[@Wolfstanus]

He isn't a collector. he is an investor and as an investor he will do anything to protect the value of his investment including lie and defame

[@JohnSmith-kb4re]

Which is why they should be purged

[@lolschrauber]

People hate being called that. I remember the same thing happening to pokemon card collectors

[@asteroidrules]

Until he's dumped his bags, because as soon as the dump of a pump and dump hits suddenly all the cheerleaders fall silent.

[@akba666]

He's not an investor, he's a speculator, which is worse.

[@spiritbx1337]

@@lolschrauber I mean, child molesters also hate being called child molesters, but what people like to be called is irrelevant to what they are...

[@falseking989]

If 1 video by a KZbinr causes your entire business to fail, then it was a business built on sand.

[@ByzantineDarkwraith]

As a sand retailer, I resent this statement.

[@Diggler569]

@@ByzantineDarkwraith As someone who builds sandboxes for kids as a side hustle: Where is my damn sand? I been waiting weeks

[@LiarraSniffles_X3]

@@Diggler569 As someone who recently stole over $20,000 in sand from the back of a truck: Hey, uh, sucks about the sand. I hope you get it soon.

[@ronyrubinov7449]

@@LiarraSniffles_X3 as the driver on the truck, you got me fired

[@oisyn-]

@@ronyrubinov7449 As the kid just wanting to play in a sandbox: wheeeeeeeeeeeh 😭

[@topgoose4818]

That dude has the most infuriating, manipulative, and childish editing I have ever seen. Even without context, I'd hate him on that sole characteristic

[@al5306]

Instead of engaging with the argument, they: a) misrepresent your point b) make any attack on them an attack on the industry as a whole c) do the "I don't know this person" bit to delegitimize your point without addressing it d) do the "he's making money so he must be lying" bit Politicians do this kind of shit all the time.

[@goopah]

Great Wealth is the only thing that matters to these people. That clown is likely already a millionaire, but won't be happy until he has more, more, more. He'll end up building a mansion from doing the very little labor of speculating. OR. He'll go broke from speculating. Something tells me he's probably into NFTs and crypto as well. Where only the people who get in early make any money from it, and they do it at the expense of any like-minded sucker that happens to come along later.

[@deathdeathrevolution3499]

my problems with it are how most of the points he makes don't even relate to the topic at hand. I mean, what does the guy think he's proving by attacking fox 9? and he also attacks the viewer, why would I take him seriously when i'm getting attacked for seeing evidence and changing my opinion based on it? just such an obvious attempt to protect an investment and (i suspect) gain a following from generating more controversy.

[@sanechipmunks]

Thats the problem of being wrong and knowing it, you can't make a good faith argument.

[@badmonkey0001]

"Jobst is just doing this for profit" ...later... "There's nothing wrong with me and others doing these things for profit." Way to argue against himself.

[@tankerd1847]

Yeah he said that and you can see all this video games he's sponging up hoping to resell later and admits that's his motivation. Yeah, ok bro

[@iliakatster]

Theres "profit" *shakes head* And "Profit" *smiles and nods enthusiastically*

[@priestfan81]

A self-detonating ahhhhhgument.

[@williamdavila6702]

everyone wants profit

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Expecting logic from a pissed off Speculator is like expecting logic from a Casino whale, his is likely just pissed off at Karl for his loss in profits trying to make money out of the bubble, which is really all on him.

[@TheReacTT]

To me, the fact he took the time to alter clips and then refuted the altered clips shows actual malice and is the most disgusting part of it. At that point, it's not grasping at straws, it's manipulation.

[@Melsharpe95]

Yes, when you're commenting on manipulated clips to "prove" your point it's because you didn't have a point in the first place. He knew exactly what he was doing. That's not accidental.

[@magikarpusedsplash8881]

​@@Melsharpe95 I am playing the devil's advocate here, but consider he has the viewpoint of believing the inflated value to be actual: Would he not edit it down to the words that he think are most relevant to his argument, seeing integral parts as irrelevant? This would make sense considering how consistently he seems to miss Karl's points, he could simply have poor judgment/reasoning. Again, that is devil's advocacy, but being manipulative doesn't make him smart either and he may genuinely believe in some of his points even if he is intentionally lying and/or defaming Karl.

[@Melsharpe95]

@@magikarpusedsplash8881 When you edit a person's comment in such a way as to say the exact opposite of what they said- that's not accidental. It even goes beyond cherry picking. It's misrepresentation. You're probably right in that he's not a critical thinker in the proper sense. After all it looks like his videos usually get around 500 views so I think he was just making a hot-take reaction video. Unfortunately he couldn't find evidence to support his position so decided to "create" some that did. It's also unfortunate because the guy just seems like some random channel just posting about what they like and has now drawn all this negative attention.

[@ruolbu]

The question ist always, are they incompetent or malicious? When someone cuts content this accurately and thereby misrepresents the actual statement, incompetence becomes highly unlikely and malicious intent is all that remains.

[@EdwardHowton]

A smart prosecutor would use this in court to win their case against a scammer. A smart judge wouldn't need a second look at the case to use this to declare a guilty verdict. Bet you a nickel nobody's smart. Although... considering the beautiful comedy in the Alex Jones trials, I'd LOVE to lose that bet. PleasepleasePLEASE.

[@Jacon8r]

Leave it to NFTbros to ruining people's hobbies.

[@niggawtf123]

anything for shekels 🤷‍♂️

[@eightcoins4401]

LOL of course its people from the NFT scene. Scammers will scam.

[@justanotheranimeprofilepic]

They've been doing it for years. NFTs were just they're highest grossing scam

[@skeletaltrees]

it’s all ai now 🙄

[@SkxllKidd]

@@justanotheranimeprofilepic We're so early lmao

[@jayonnaise6105]

I'm not going to trust anyone who says "we used to champion our heroes" while showing a picture of Hulk Hogan as an example. Hulk Hogan is the reason Hulk Hogan is no longer "championed"

[@AlfieClark-ww9ox]

his champion is hulk hogan? hm, the amount of lying in his video seems to make a lot more sense now 😌 i wonder if he was almost the bassist for Metallica too

[@Robert-nu4vc]

Who is your hero? Child predator creepy Joe?

[@ZorotheGallade]

The way he flip-flops between "Karl Jobst is going to completely ruin us" and "Karl Jobst is a nobody not even worth considering" in the same breath is infuriating at times. He can't even pick one lie and stick with it...

[@Kokuswolf]

9:28 I like how he asks "But who is Karl Jobs". But then I wondered who this bald guy is and what makes him the ultimate authority on sealed video game market? I mean, I've been collecting over 20 Years now and I've never heard of him before this day. Asking around the hobby, nobody has. Odd isn't it?

[@Umbrage0]

It's a classic rhetorical device to paint one's foes as "foes" They are both great and terrible while being weak and meaningless.

[@igorpedro8995]

Best faith interpretation that I can do, you could see this as "he has a large audience that could interfere in the space" and "he's a nobody in the hobby/business, so we shouldn't listen to him" Still, both are shit arguments that don't matter and he shouldn't have used them.

[@the1truepickaxe298]

It's almost like fascists must overestimate and underestimate their enemies at the same time

[@randomyoutuber4189]

@@the1truepickaxe298 _A wild fascist argument appeared!_

[@ty2k]

He was so confident in his argument that he has taken down every piece of his content online.

[@PubeStache]

That's weird..

[@stephenmanuel9860]

And nothing of value was lost.

[@Sypaka]

He did? Seriously? Who was that anyway?

[@ToonCatTV]

Pffft wow

[@Yungbeck]

Lost media andy

[@wolfydawolf1296]

"Rip open King Tut's sarcophagus because beds are meant to be laid in" SIR that is a COFFIN and there's ALREADY A CORPSE OCCUPYING IT that is such a ridiculous attempt at an argument lmao

[@JokerFace090]

"Do I look like a puppet to you?" Yes, like Pinocchio to be exact.

[@bretterry8356]

Collectors are happy when prices drop because they can add to their collections. Speculators are happy when prices climb because they can leverage their investments. They are not the same people. They are two very different people sharing a market, one out of love, one out of greed.

[@theMansalad]

I'd be so happy if all my games were suddenly worth nothing

[@tosspot1305]

I collect vinyl and the same applies.. You see greedy stores pushing up prices of vinyl that just isn't worth what they're asking. It'll sit there for years with no one buying it however I'd buy it immediately if it was reasonably priced

[@minimalchill]

@@theMansalad I’m literally a video game reseller and I tell all of my customers frequently that these games values are ridiculous. I do what I can do give deals where it makes sense. I’ve been a collector for 20+ years at this point (just turned 35) and what always made collecting fun was the awesome amount of games you could get for affordable prices, especially compared to buying them new upon release. If games plummeted in value, the likelihood of my business continuing with games as the focus (profit wise) would definitely shift. I’d start pushing stuff with greater margins. But man would I be happy for myself & gamers alike. I could get cheap games for myself again without having to buy big ass lots, pick out what I want, and then take months to flip the rest.

[@A..D..D]

@@theMansalad me too

[@rcast002]

I just want to buy more games for my collection without having to decide if It’s going to put me in a tough spot this month with rent

[@godusopp1797]

My favourite piece of irony that locked my attention was how that guy kept slamming you for using click-baiting practices while simultaneously editing his video like a 16 yr old's KZbin debut 'prank gone sexual' video

[@TheLukeHines]

When he said something along the lines of “look past the dramatic music” about Karl’s video, meanwhile he seemingly downloaded the attack ad sound effect starter pack.

[@lowman5893]

@@TheLukeHines Do Karl's videos even have music outside of the sounds of a given clip he may be showing?

[@MaskedDeath_]

Yeah. In the beginning Karl said his video is going to make that guy's video look bad, but for me that was not the case. They guy himself made his video look bad. It's honestly so terrible I had to take breaks during watching.

[@Trimint123]

@@MaskedDeath_ Mate, it makes me cringe in just 45 seconds in. And watching further didn't get any better either.

[@Havok0159]

And that lighting. Was he trying to be cute thinking that scary red would subconsciously make you mad? His video did made me mad, subconsciously and consciously, but the red did nothing. The way he talked on the other hand made me feel like he was insulting my intelligence. Then he finished making his point proving that he was indeed insulting my intelligence.

[@tomo8237]

The thing that pisses me off the most about the guy is the fact he called a sarcophagus a bed, tbh. Like wasn't he taught in history class that they are coffins??

[@cyanthrope]

which creates the argument of "if you owned a sarcophagus, would you want to be buried in it?" To which the answer is, obviously, yes, who wouldn't?

[@velvetkiss8014]

That comment even got me. For 5 seconds I'm like "Ah yes I guess It could make a neat bed I guess." Followed by. "Wait! Is baldy basics for real? That's a bed you never leave, that's a coffin."

[@PumpkinKingXXIII]

I use to work for an estate sales company. The one thing people always seem to forget, just because something is in good condition, rare and or old doesn’t mean it worth a lot.

[@Jack-px8lf]

and if its a literal outhouse somewhere in california, its worth a fortune.

[@lasarousi]

Everything is worth something to someone. That's the problem with the market, idiots buying inflated prices because their empty life literally has nothing but spare money.

[@MegaRazorback]

I have a factory sealed copy of Carmageddon 64 that only cost me 60 bucks and last i checked it was going for about 300 odd but i didn't buy it to sell it off, i bought it because Carmageddon 64 in any form be it a factory sealed or just the cartridge itself in Australia is on of those hard to get ones, not as rare as something like say Conkers Bad Fur Day (that one even for just the cartridge is like finding a needle in a haysack and when you DO find one here in Australia you're looking at 200+ easily for JUST the cartridge alone) and it was one of the N64 games that i never got to actually own back in the day so i bought it simply to say "i now own something i missed out on back then"

[@garethjones4742]

Good condition, rare and or old usually does mean it's valuable though. There's collectors for just about everything.

[@reaperreaper5098]

@@garethjones4742 It doesn't though. Being rare, old, and in good nick does not equate to being valuable all that often. That usually only happens with items of high notoriety. The rare times it happens for more items, is usually when there's a bubble and speculation is running rampant.

[@walterbrink5391]

“This guy insults my very being to the core, but please don’t attack or harass him. I don’t want to be the cause to spark up hate.” Words from an Absolute Legend

[@projektvirus5451]

Agreed good on Karl for maintaining the high road. the internet is the internet tho, there have been and will always be the "for the lulz" crowd. (i am aware that reference dates myself but point still stands)

[@chriswelcome8102]

From*

[@tthompson4768]

Facts

[@kathypierson1128]

Karl is a legend, but lets not be fanatic here. He did it to cover his own ass

[@joelhodoborgas]

@@kathypierson1128 Hi, that does not make sense. thanks and have a great day.

[@doc_sav]

When he says "real" collectors, he means speculative investors. The actual real collectors saw one of the best selling, common games of all time sell for millions and thought, "That doesn't seem right". But Karl went and dove into this head first, did a bunch of frankly excellent research, and published it. Then immediately, people were trying to discredit and cancel him. This was an important piece of reporting, and the backlash only reinforces that. Nobody likes to be left holding the bag, but that is a risk you should be prepared for when speculating on any type of volatile market.

[@msmyrk]

Yes, and anyone barracking for collectable price increases are speculators by definition. Real collectors surely want the prices to be stable so they can afford to continue collecting.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

@@msmyrk also regular Investors would have probably been indifferent to the stocks deflating and normalising so yeah this guy is likely a Speculator and is likely lossing Profits perhaps even a lot of profits.

[@PrinceDinoboy]

I agree. I was already casually collecting video games from a very young age. The only reason I would care about the market is so I don't get ripped off with outrageous prices. I don't care about rising and falling prices so I can sell them later, I care about that so I am able know if I am getting a good deal. I think that buying super common games for more than 3 times their original retail price is ridiculous. I buy games that came with a case with it because I wasn't the game to be protected so I can play it. I am a collector that wouldn't be opposed to selling games i no longer want. That is collecting. Buying games only for the sake of profit is not collecting. It's investment.

[@ZeranZeran]

he acts so "holier than thou" its strange he thought his video would appeal to anyone he needs to learn to drop his ego, but I don't think he's capable of doing that.

[@barowt]

What's going to be next, the vintage laptop and computer scene? If enough people bought enough of the stuff that's goes on the market, they'd control old PC part prices..

[@6massa6cre6]

When I heard the way he pronounced "Mario", I instantly knew he wasn't a gamer or game collector for the sake of gaming.

[@olivermensinger6022]

Same

[@liammcnicholas918]

Many British people pronounce Mario that way….and Whang (who is ironically from Brooklyn)

[@clarissa8477]

I’m not even a collector or a gamer and it made me cringe

[@pragmaticpundit7703]

For those who want to know what happened to 'Mad Dog'... He ran, with his tail between his legs - deleted his channel and all its videos and privated his instagram. I like to picture that smug grin being wiped off his face after watching this video.

[@txwering7380]

Lmfao. Thanks man, was looking for this

[@ronnightingale6264]

No he didn't? The channel is still up, I didnt see the video but he also has a video where they both have a chat about the video and stuff

[@jessierabbit]

​@ronnightingale6264 His channel was private at one point, so if OP had tried to look it up, they wouldn't have been able to find it. He hasn't posted in 10 months, so I'd say he ran.

[@bleedorange1998]

And he just now put his entire channel on private. Clearly this wasn’t a hill he was ready to die on. Great job 👍

[@jpad0929]

Yeah. He received 90% dislike rate on his video. We won boys :D

[@bleedorange1998]

@@jpad0929 How can you tell the ratio when the dislike number is gone?

[@justanothercommentercarryo8367]

@@bleedorange1998 must've seen it before the shutdown.

[@mangosteen508]

@@bleedorange1998 there are apps that let you see it still. it's available from the youtube API in my understanding and the app can surface it and integrate it in the frontend

[@williamfoster2681]

Nothing says “I’m right” quite like removing your videos from the public eye.

[@dpmengelt]

I feel a little embarrassed every time he confidently believes he makes a good point.

[@ProfessorVitale]

ditto

[@Mephitinae]

He knows he's talking BS, but he doesn't care as long as the video gets exposure. If he manages to convince even one dope to pay him a million dollars for a sealed game, then it's a huge W.

[@nickfifteen]

This is pure speculation and not based on anything other than an idea I pulled out of my ass... but I would not be surprised if it's later revealed that his video was made only because he was secretly hired by WATA Games to make an "independently created" video supprting them. I can't think of very many people who would simp for a company as much as this guy did, and out of the goodness of their own hearts.

[@whitaker_]

He's a salesman, he knows its BS

[@txwering7380]

@@nickfifteen I am not by any means saying that you are wrong (as I am just speculating too), but I do want to say that he has a literal wall of WATA sealed games behind him... that is very good reason to make a video like this. That being said, I truly think that it is a combination of yours too. I think he was hired, or atleast heavily influenced, by WATA and the fact that he also had prior motivation drove him to commit.

[@derekcook8201]

When you showed the actual context of Pat's quote that was the confirmation that I needed that this guy is intentionally lying. You nailed him to a board. Keep up the great content.

[@reicherruschach3727]

Pat Contri is a notorious scam artist. The easiest way to tell if he's lying is to look at his mouth. If it's open, he's lying.

[@TriAzF]

@@reicherruschach3727Even if that is true it doesn’t at all change the original commenters point or diminish it. Pats quote was taken out of context, regardless of whether or not you agree with his full quote, or trust pat as a person, it doesn’t change the fact that Mad Dog intentionally cut the quote to make it seem like pat was saying something else, which is scummy and shows that he doesn’t actually have a legitimate argument to make to discredit him.

[@reicherruschach3727]

​@@TriAzFThat is true indeed. You don't need to manipulate things to make Contri look dishonest; he already does enough disingenuous things on his own.

[@nissan_skyline]

I can't really tell if he's intentionally lying or if he's just ignorant and doesn't know what he's talking about. Cause the lies he tells are embarrassing considering how easily they can be debunked. Like, he completely missed the point behind why marketing your own product without disclosing your relationship to the company (if you have one) is unethical and illegal when there are FTC laws that clearly state why. Plus, he seems to misinterpret a lot of things that Karl says and doesn't even understand what the video is about. He thinks Karl is attacking the entire graded video game industry, community and collectors when his video mainly focuses on two companies and their unethical and manipulative business practices. I really don't know how he managed to overlook this. Perhaps he's just not very intelligent.

[@arturoharvey9733]

@@nissan_skylineI’m pretty sure he’s lying because those things you pointed out. I’m 26mins through Karl’s video and I haven’t heard that man discuss or refute one actual point that Karl made. He’s barely discussing the same topic, instead he goes on attacking his straw man and making implications about Karl. I don’t want to believe that a man that can speak so well and seems to be at least moderately successful, could watch Karl’s video and so clearly miss the point. Maybe I can chalk it up to him being so close to the situation and emotionally invested that he subconsciously blocked out the point of the video because it would make him feel like his was played for a fool if he was/is a regular patron of Wata and Heritage. But even then, I would expect him to defend those companies directly if that were the case and he hasn’t referenced them or their owners yet. Edit: finished the video; he did start referencing Wata and some of Karl’s actual points but he straight up lied about all of them. Yeah, this dude was lying the whole time.

[@emilyofjane]

I don’t know what’s worse: the fact that the entire video boils down to him saying “waaah you foiled my plans, now I’m gonna whine about it”; or the fact that it’s so littered with memes and cartoony edits that it’s literally impossible to take anything he says seriously.

[@TheLastApostle]

Dont forget stock photos and videos

[@olivermensinger6022]

Yes

[@joe2501echo]

I love how he attacks your "dramatic music and narrative tone" while having the most aggressively manipulative and dramatic editing I've seen outside of a narrative critical social media post within a live action teens movie.

[@PrimroseParadox]

For real. The incessant foghorns and meme edits make him sound absolutely juvenile. Who's his audience meant to be, five year olds?

[@Yecze]

@@PrimroseParadoxthere’s more young children in KZbin than you think

[@dieSpinnt]

Hey Joe! Stop looking for a balanced story/view ... as he told. We have to fit his stereotypes! Hehehehhee This guy is really something special. Not only the strawmen, but also these useless red herrings like mentioned by you, Joe. This narrow and strange concentration about the form/presentation (the music/tone) and not the content (the actual points, Karl made) can only arise from the mind of a child. If a stutterer reports that your car is burning ... you get out ... fast! This guy instead wants to discuss stuttering. And the icing of the cake is that he is first insulting Carl and immediately after that his viewers, us. What a clown. **facepalm** (I really don't want to know how this guy did come to wealth ...)

[@AfricanLionBat]

I hate the way he pronounced Mario. It's Mah Ree Yo not Mare ee yo. Instantly lost credibility.

[@AngryK1tty]

@@AfricanLionBatIt’s a me, Mary yo

[@kush4jesus]

"I asked every single video game collector on the planet, and none of them have heard of Karl Jobst." Seems legit. Guy clearly did his research.

[@guessowii]

Lol

[@Solaceon]

Problem is, he asked other investors... who aren't watching speedrunning content.

[@wreaker5518]

Damn, must've missed his email when he asked me lol

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

@@Solaceon other speculators if he was a legit Investor he wouldn't care if Karl is calling out Wata and Heritage.

[@ssisnake]

Guess his email went into my spam folder never got one.

[@pointyorb]

My dad gave me some valuble advice: "There are two types of people, people who pronounce it Mario, & people who pronounce it as Mayrio. Never trust anyone who pronounces it Mayrio"

[@swordsmancs]

Words to live by

[@violetgriff2704]

“Priceless lady and the tramp poster worth 40,000 dollars” something seems off here

[@bluedistortions]

You're right. It was another faked story. I forget what happened, but it wasn't how it was reported.

[@Draqson]

His response felt like "You're no real gangster, you have no idea about extortion, so leave us honest criminals alone!!"

[@OfLaSoul]

lmao

[@All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers]

"You know who's a great soft target for me to lie about in my video? Karl Jobst. The guy who literally debunks and archives hoaxes, cheats, and lies." 🙄

[@gurmyigoll3535]

"Clearly this is a good idea, and will in no way backfire against me."

[@fernando4959]

Clueless

[@retrokoh1507]

The one guy that Billy Mitchell couldn't make back down. Yea, that's the target I wanna go after empty-handed🤷

[@Eddietheteddie]

38:00 that guy lost all credibility at that exact moment. That cut was intentional and proves he's being deceptive.

[@EmptyHeadedGamer]

I know I'm late to the party, but one of my favorite things about you is how unbiased you are and how much time and effort you put into Investigations, even if it means they come at you legally. Keep up the amazing work you absolute legend

[@alexgilliland-lloyd272]

How on earth is Karl able to remain so calm in the face of such bad-faith arguments? It's infuriating that anyone thinks that guy is credible.

[@RadikAlice]

After being sued by Billy "World's best cheater" Mitchell and Todd "Todgers" Rogers, everything else are small fries

[@TheOrichalcon]

Karl has true, citable facts and examples on his side. It's much easier to remain calm when you know you're right. I'd expect Karl to be excited to make these kinds of videos as it's a thrill to call people out with factual evidence.

[@achabotte]

Read between the lines, As much as he tries to rise above it there are times he lets it get to him.

[@gabrote42]

By training, enduring for years, then doing 12 takes for the video. He slips once in a while but overall he does very well

[@jordan_cagle]

For one we can’t see his attempts at each clip. Think about how he is human. No human is perfect. I don’t know when that video he is criticizing came out, but it was not just a week ago, he had time to get angry about it then think it through. He had the time to organize himself and do the research and show how the video is wrong. I would guess that we don’t see the whole original video so he could have some parts that he did not find enough to discredit it, but he did his homework.

[@shevchenko7cfc941]

My lord that guy is insufferable, his condescending, mocking "holier than thou" attitude is brutal. At no point did he discredit a single segment of your video.

[@DivineBanana]

He should take up apologetics, he would be good at it

[@djangofett4879]

it's funny that he showed Bill Maher in the video when describing a strawman argument. Bill Maher who is now loved by Fox News and is praising himself as the ultimate truth teller, meanwhile he is an just an out of touch stereotypical center right boomer douche who loves beating up on strawmen.

[@DLockholm]

The only reason that I watched that guy speaking is because of Karl, otherwise I would completely click out of that asshole video, his way of speaking is just disgusting to watch, his sense of moral superiority makes me want to vomit.

[@lizzfrmhon]

Yeah I thought the same.

[@phud420]

The cadence that he speaks with, paired with the extremely cringe-worthy editing hurts my bones

[@strider984]

33:40 "i had no money ... thank god my brother in law was in town for passover ... he told me to start a hedge fund" violence

[@Luzeldon]

Regardless of the matter at hand, twisting other's statement out of context is inexcusable. People like that don't deserve trust. No one should be buying anything from that "collector".

[@someguy8081]

The thing that really gets me is that this guy is basically stating that video game collecting is a worthless hobby unless you can sell your collection for millions of dollars. Video game collecting isn’t about who has the more expensive game, collecting in general is about collecting something your passionate about

[@d.n4203]

Indeed. Which is why he isn't a collector, he's an investor.

[@AtariBorn]

@@d.n4203 He's an opportunist. He's only interested in investing in games because of the speculative value they will have in the future. Collecting for 10 years in something that has exploded in the last 10 years is his tell. We, as in the gaming community, would never know who this guy was, had Cabbage Patch Kids exploded in popularity, the way retro gaming did.

[@Rabbit-the-One]

I kinda got that impression too.

[@Rabbit-the-One]

Did he have a channel before this video?

[@AtariBorn]

@@Rabbit-the-One Evidently yes, but he blew that.

[@PatTheNESpunk]

I almost forgot I'm in that guy's dumb video. Sweet lord the dishonesty on display.

[@forgiveman]

Hey. Great to see a comment from one of the main affected by the "collector". I hope he deletes his videos and make a public apology about misrepresenting you, Karl, and many other people who got involved there.

[@Kayrim_Borlan]

@@forgiveman He's made his channel private at least, so that's a good start

[@Kayrim_Borlan]

@@forgiveman Correction, the channel isn't private, he just deleted all the videos on his channel

[@bobbob1876]

I'm afraid you won't be able to view such dishonesty in its entirety again-- Mad Dog Collection's has either deleted or privated all his KZbin videos.

[@adilsonbankai]

It's insane to me how much dishonesty he can display. He literally just crops out the start of the phrase and turns what you are saying on the opposite, and show something from the SAME stream that contradicts it to make you sound crazy or something? Holy sh*t, that's insane.

[@LiltryLive]

Okay so watching people lie like this is so painful and I’m really glad that you replied so beautifully. Honestly, I enjoy people reasonably responding to deceitful videos, it just feels good to know that lies like this don’t just stand without question.

[@summerfieldchris]

Great video. I remember meeting Silvester McCoy and I asked him to sign a Doctor Who card I had of his Doctor and he was so happy when I asked him to personalise it because it meant I had no interest in selling it. We had a really good chat about the upside and downside of the collectable market.

[@nickverzic7260]

Don’t trust anyone that pronounces his name “Mayrio” but claims to be an adamant video game collector.

[@doublearon9942]

Could the pronunciation be a regional thing? Retro Wolf a New Yorker pronounces it the same way. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@nutinurmacaroni]

No.. lol it's clear defiance of actuality. Every human being on Earth knows the name and how to pronounce it lol.

[@ChosselDeluxe]

@@doublearon9942 Considering he shouts his name in most title screens, I doubt it.

[@j-t4436]

Sorry to tell you, but thats how every other person on the planet pronounces it outside of America. After all its an Italian name, and its pronounced mArio, not mOrio.

[@littlered6340]

Right? It's weird because Mario is a proper noun, those have specific pronunciation, and he says his name in the games. You don't even need to have played the specific one 😩

[@the_dark_soul_of_man]

Guy's editing makes me think of when I was an edgy teen and trying to make "the most awesome and dramatic vid ever" (luckily it never got done)

[@r0llntider]

You don't have to apologize for making an honest living. Love your videos

[@NeonKnight707]

The guy will advertise anything for money, I don't know how "honest" his living is.

[@MTG69]

The fact that they made a video specifically calling you out Karl, means you're on point, and hitting all the right nerves.

[@SGFTI]

I do agree that he uses a lot of clickbaity bullshit in his titles though, this one included. I know that's part of the youtube game, but it is still gross.

[@bernardstrauss1183]

@@SGFTI ok scammer.

[@kainewolfe2109]

@@SGFTI you need to silence yourself

[@HappyMealBieber]

Karl dismantled their racket . Wata games makes untold amounts of money for making bogus non sense ratings.Its silly. This guys attitude towards Karl is just as bad and is indicative of what they are all trying to do. They thought they were clever but the house of cards they built just got exposed for millions of people to see

[@L4sket]

@@SGFTI How is this clickbait? In this video, a video game collector called him a fraud, and that's exactly the title of the video.

[@MyNameJefff]

Karl is such a saint. He dismantled this man’s entire video without insulting or degrading the man and was calm and composed the entire time. Amazing work, Karl.

[@dopaminedreams1122]

Karl Shapiro calmly DISMANTLES beta males entire Ponzi scheme

[@MyNameJefff]

@@dopaminedreams1122 Karl “Based and Redpilled” Jobst? Uhhhhh I think so

[@brianmcgill9662]

you would think hes gods gift to earth the way you fans suck him off

[@krodmandoon3479]

It would have been super easy, too.

[@limeflashlight4101]

Agreed but sometimes idiots like the hater he has need to get made fun of

[@ueayhgajeztqiiufghaeuaeru]

I stumpled upon your content and I like speedruns, but fascinates me the most, is your perspective about truth and the logic you apply. This quirky combination of videogamespeedruns and aplication of epistemological philosophy really is great content.

[@jasont80]

It makes no sense that the pandemic created demand for games that you can't even play. Also, you did a great job keeping this objective!

[@WinstonSmith685]

I know, right? In the pandemic I did indeed get bored and felt a longing for some retro games so I bought the NES and SNES classic editions so I could actually play the games instead of just looking at some sealed boxes sitting on a shelf.

[@jasont80]

@@WinstonSmith685 You've gone more retro than me... but I'd love to go back and play OG games again, like Zelda, Metroid, SuperMario, etc!

[@1missing]

I love that he tried to "who?" a literal video game legend.

[@MaxAim]

That was so cringy to watch. The editing, the smugness, the lies... I don't know how Karl watched it all multiple times to make this video.

[@SLRModShop]

I grade his smugness 95, top notch stuff! Unbearable to watch. Karl probably hit the nail on the head with his remark, I can't picture adults watching this guy.

[@jadenknott]

Yeah his cockiness is just unbearable to listen to, like nails on a freaking chalkboard

[@asteria9963]

Don't forget the music. Why do people like him always use that kind of music?

[@crazy_man7578]

for real, like only watching a snippet of it already making me feel irritated as fuck. I can't imagine how angry I gonna feel if I have to watch the full video.

[@SLRModShop]

@@crazy_man7578 If you've seen 5 minutes, you've seen it all. Bad arguments all around. I couldn't even be bothered to check how many subscribers the guy has, that's how uninteresting this all is

[@szpaqdzi4813]

Hi. I am not even close to be fluent in english but 100% props for you.🎉 Fighting/debating manipulative speakers is important thing as there is more and more of them. You're doing a great job at presenting topics as objectively as possible. With subtle imperfections sometimes byt still high level. :)

[@paulm2518]

The original video you covered was so difficult to watch, you did well to keep calm and respond as you did.

[@emostiker222]

I find it wild that this man set out with the goal of restoring the legitimacy of the names of game raters and consciously decided "I'm gonna act and edit this video like my target audience is 7 year olds."

[@RocketboyX]

Because his target audience is made up of crypto bros.

[@anonony9081]

Yeah it's almost impressive how bad the delivery is. It's like he's gone back to 2013 KZbin, he's so unfunny

[@azharp9391]

The kind of person that thinks putting more shit in a video means better editting

[@spacebassist]

@@RocketboyX ironically I heard that 7 years old is when you achieve self-awareness, so even they're racing ahead of monopoly money bros

[@gameboyjsa]

He deleted every video on his channel

[@thetragedyofcommons]

how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man

[@frightnoodle8816]

'Bald man' might have worked better here, heh heh...

[@wolvenar]

Always at least one more time. Or so they think.

[@GyrateMeHoe]

@@frightnoodle8816 no need to name call, regardless of what he said

[@YOEL_44]

@@GyrateMeHoe I agree, but I also think it's a better descriptive word to tailor the meme to him

[@sdHansy]

Where can I find the guy's original video?

[@ThatNoobLad]

17:34 using that guys own knowledge he's not a journalist so he can't know what he's talking about. HYPOCRITE CONFIRMED! Love your videos dude.

[@12345.......]

It appears mad dog took down his video and had comments turned off beforehand. He is a coward and not worth wasting energy on.

[@manghariz2211]

Jobst : Gives out detailed video of how two companies is engaged in a massive scam This dude : Look he is a youtuber, obviously he is lying.

[@extract3959]

LMAO

[@lyingcorn]

I mean, 99% of the time that logic would have worked lmao

[@AliceErishech]

The best part about implying Karl's a liar because he's a KZbinr is that this guy is apparently himself a KZbinr. Karl really didn't even need to make a video like this. Most of the guy's points end up getting refuted later on by himself.

[@erikaisadiah]

As a supporter of over 2 years now, can confirm that I am an idiot not here for fair and honest reporting. I'm just here for the chocolate ad discounts 🍫

[@henryhardtits]

AHA!! GOTCHA!!!

[@icecreamcake5381]

If that guy ever makes a response to this video, I can imagine him taking a screenshot of this comment and using it as evidence to prove his argument against Karl 😂

[@giddy4600]

@@icecreamcake5381 Fr we gonna be famous in a few months

[@cwingee]

@@icecreamcake5381 i hope he includes me in the screenshot

[@TheSCBGeneral]

@@icecreamcake5381 I doubt he will. He privated his entire channel.

[@helloimshawn]

I know it’s late but this was so well done man. Wish you and everyone else nothing but the best !

[@grahamfisher5436]

Karl might want to seriously consider, becoming a "Legal bod'

[@ChrisPBacon-py4pq]

The way he cut together the clips there in the end is absolutely disgusting and you could've just shown that part and dropped the mic. Great video as always Jobst Who?? :D I've been bingewatching your stuff lately. Keep it up!

[@RetroDeath]

How could he take that clip of Pat, cut out the first sentence, and then try and convince us this is not absolutely deceitful on his part? That alone shows he 100% knows he is totally in on the long-con.

[@tolindaniel]

Guy owes Pat an apology imo

[@Skallva]

Honestly, the fact he tries to discredit Pat as a genuine collector because Pat allegedly said that wrapped games should be unwrapped because they are meant to be played says enough about what kind of a person he is. You can't just have a fun hobby. It's all business in his head.

[@RocKM001]

The irony is he is basically doing everything he is blaming Karl... specially the whole "Creating click bait videos" and he literally does the lowest common denominator video - ie. response debunk video to ride the coat tails of a much more popular video xD

[@LykosMenon]

This guy is a clown. Good lord. Him slamming pat like that physically hurt me.

[@Trimint123]

@@RocKM001 Honestly, he probably just jealous that his channel are so niece than Karl. Lmao

[@SirPembertonS.Crevalius]

I can't quite wrap my head around the audacity of calling Karl, who is arguably one of the best investigative gaming journalists out there, *a fraud and a liar.*

[@Lightna]

If you cannot understand that then understand this, people who stand to gain the most tend to be the loudest against their opponents whom the latter has proof

[@NoraNoita]

Karl even exposed Karl for cheating and came clean about it, that's some honesty you wont find anywhere else in the industry.

[@nessthecat]

Projection is a hell of a thing. People really think it works to discredit people like Karl XD

[@drifter402]

Probably the ONLY investigative journalist

[@dans3379]

@@Lightna i think that person was using flowery (sp) to illustrate a point, good on you for helping them out if not. Some folk might be so distant from the thought process they actually needed help.

[@og-nesley3885]

I had to come back and rewatch this video almost a year later just as a reminder of how much a beast Karl is. If this guy wasn’t already bald, (nothing wrong with that) he would have been after this video because he got burned lol.

[@lemonlordminecraft]

As an unwillingly bald man (though I admit it looks damn good on me), having seen Karl's pinned comment, I was initially like "aw man I'm going to be upset by someone unproductively attacking a group of people because of a bad actor within it" but I am glad to see you took pains to ensure there was no collateral damage to your insult :) good show!

[@Kamau1865]

Karl, I only have a passing interest in the topics you cover, but I still find your videos insightful and engaging. It's obvious to any of your regular viewers that the videos you create have value. Keep up the good work and don't let the idiots get you down.

[@GretgorPooper]

That collector guy has pretty much the EXACT same energy as those people that defend NFTs on the Internet. It's almost like this type of dishonesty is often practiced by the same types of people, no matter where you look.

[@JT-hk9ur]

What is "dishonest" about NFTs?

[@GretgorPooper]

@@JT-hk9ur paying to "own" something that you have no copyright over in hopes you can "sell" it to someone for a high price is very close to being the quintessential example of a scam. It's literally a market that involves buying and selling stuff that has no inherent value whatsoever. At least old school stocks are associated with businesses that actually do something. People who try to get people into buying NFTs are pretty much the 2020s equivalent of pyramid scheme flingers.

[@too1leasy403]

@@JT-hk9ur They're a ponzi scheme

[@sonoda944]

@@JT-hk9ur scam, art-theft, environmental issue, money-laundering, the list goes on

[@alexwalker5716]

@@JT-hk9ur Claiming they have any real value for one thing. It's like buying a ticket to the Louvre and claiming you own the Mona Lisa. Except that ticket costs millions of euros instead of the 15 that everyone else pays. And it emits toxic gas. And instead of a one of a kind by Leonardo da Vinci, the painting was one of hundreds of nearly identical copies made by someone who never painted anything before they wanted to get rich off of it. And that person had less artistic skill that a four year old. (Okay this part is just opinion, but the rest is basically how it works)

[@RGT85]

I like how he used a picture of me too, and simulated that I was crying. lol

[@jayst]

Lol I was tripping out about that

[@SmoothJK]

It only makes them look stupid and petty

[@liquidsofa]

@Karl Jobst Unfortunately, when people buy a crap car, they take it to a mechanic. The mechanic tells them the car is a lemon and they paid more than it's worth. The person becomes angry with the mechanic. This often how the world works, people become angry with the person who speaks the truth, instead of becoming angry at the problem.

[@TheWaterdog6]

"In a lawsuit the first to speak seems right, until someone comes forward and cross-examines."

[@harleyspeedthrust4013]

karl jobst is a savage. he starts the video with "look i'm about to destroy this dude; the beating i'm boutta give him will be more than enough so please don't join in"

[@jewels3846]

Honestly yeah. If anything we should be seeing if he needs a doctor after this. It was so one sided i almost pitied him just for losing so bad to Karl but then he would speak and annoy me again.

[@sagichdirdochnicht4653]

There is a difference between a well manered, public and personal response, vs a bunch of angry fans writing hate comments with half wrong facts. Karl just has the gift to beat his opponents bloody with words, without ever being rude or lying.

[@wayfa13]

@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 well in their defense, they did give him a LOT of ammunition

[@immortalnub]

"The trick is to turn something no one would care about into something exciting." As someone who isn't particularly interested in speedruns, I can say you have mastered this art. Not many people can do that.

[@learntooilpaint]

I would say there are two Karl is one, the other is Goose , I think Goise is arguably the best in a much narrower niche

[@AlbRomano]

@@learntooilpaint also, summoning salt, for his ability to craft a story around a game's speed run history.

[@iculas]

Very much this.

[@SmogginMog]

Yeah, I liked occasionally searching and watching for glitch videos - but Karl's channel drew me in with his levelheaded commentary.

[@learntooilpaint]

@@SmogginMog I got into Goose earlier who has a very nice storytelling style, with a good narration voice. Jobst appeared in many of those videos and I heard of him on there

[@slowdownex]

This video gets me every time, absolute classic. Watching a man get confronted with the truth and then start coping as hard as he can, throwing out everything from all the logical fallacies in the book, to a whole bunch of frivolous arguments that could be turned around right back on to him just as easily, it never gets old.

[@ooferdoofer7869]

34:47 King Tuts sarcophagus is a COFFIN; NOT a bed.

[@Elmo9001]

When he described sealed video games as an 'investible asset' it felt like I had a spider-sense that was going off. Real crypto/NFT vibes.

[@Thor-Orion]

Con artists all have a certain cadence about them.

[@nyalan8385]

@@Thor-Orion except for the good ones

[@felipewerner6670]

@@nyalan8385 there is no good ones, only more stupid people.

[@Kid_Charlemagne]

I could tell he would be a nft scam bro by the crazy look in his eyes.

[@mikefarino4368]

Investable assets are a real thing. The issue with Crypto and NFT is the market is full of scammers and grifters. Jewelry, watches and things of that nature are Investable assets and are more akin to the video games in this instance. A rare physical item that more people want to own than their are copies available. This guy gives off major scammer vibes, but not because he called it an Investable asset. That's a legitimate term.

[@awauwu3166]

Dude made a clown out of himself and then deleted ALL of his youtube video, great job Karl, is amusing to see someone actually using arguments and not crying cause his scam was found out.

[@Kermitgottagun]

Is that why I can't find this baldy's videos? He legit just nuked his entire channel?

[@brianfhunter]

@@Kermitgottagun - I came here on the comment section to just to find the name of this piece of shit and give a dislike on the video... A Bad made video i just ignore, "they will get better, maybe...", but Scammers are imoral by definition, i will take my time to fight back, even if is just a single dislike with very little impact... . I would be very happy if he got nuked.

[@avocatdelamusique9778]

@@Kermitgottagun yep lol he supposedly deleted all of his videos

[@Dracogame]

lmao now I feel good. How can people be so slimy and think they can get away with it. He really tried to make that argument sitting in front of a wall of sealed wata games.

[@heatherangel9700]

His video wasn't even a response. This was the quality rebuttal everyone is sharing? He didn't even bother to address anything Karl said or point out where he was factually incorrect. All he did was attack Karl personally for the entire video. It's the KZbin equivalent of a teenager saying "You mad bro?" You hit the nail on the head. Clown is the only way to describe him.

[@SwiFTDBL]

you know what makes me not trust someone in a "debate" like this? when one of the members of the "debate" goes and attacks the character of the other person, INSTEAD of attacking their talking points, INSTEAD of addressing valid data and evidence thats been brought forth, INSTEAD of talking about the facts, they choose to try to discredit the other person.

[@TheStarlightKing]

Not to mention all the sealed video games he has in the background. Dude has invested a lot. He collects to make money, not because he is passionate about gaming.

[@Ckoz2829]

Karl, you’re the most honest and trustworthy guy on this platform. Keep up the good work and don’t let crooks like this guy have the last word.

[@TheNorseCrow]

For me a collector is easy to identify. They go "Check out this! How cool is this?!" then ramble for the next hour about the history of the item. What they don't do is brag about the future value of a collectible and how much they bought it for because at that point it's not the item they care about but just the value it has or could potentially have which is no different from just throwing actual money on a table and talking about how they are investing it.

[@vinzo0913]

A real collector only knows the value of someone else's appreciation

[@CheshireCad]

Kinda like NFTs. They lure you in with neat randomized images that you can "own" via some weird new techno-voodoo. That's nice. I like that part. But then they won't shut up about the resale value and the explosive market potential and why it's a bargain to pay $300 for a link to a jpg.

[@Culled]

Well said

[@NeoGMan64]

Good example was when myself and my brother went to a video game store a few weeks ago and me and the guy behind the counter were able to ramble on and explain the history of Night Trap to him since he just thought the cover looked cool.

[@manyullyn17]

There pretty much are collectors who care about the item and investors who only care about the value of the item but somehow the investors think they are just normal collectors and that it's different from NFTs, Crypto Currency and stuff like that. Don't get me wrong, collectors can also care about the value of something they collect but if you _only_ care about making money from it you're not a collector, you're an investor.

[@BagelSpanker]

This guy sounds like he's trying to convince us to join his pyramid scheme of buying overpriced graded games so we can become rich 😂

[@BAM5636]

That is exactly what it is to them.

[@sock2828]

I kept having flashbacks to the height of the NFT craze.

[@Oakshield2]

Yeah, like those guys who do presentations: "How to make money!" and the answer is always "just give me your money"

[@samuellove9619]

@@sock2828 I mean, it's the same thing, speculative bubbles inflated on pure promotion.

[@lumin0s]

*HE becomes rich

[@cromajuhs]

wild that seeing this a year after this whole thing happened and trying to watch the video that this in response too only to find out that its been removed/privated/deleted really shows that the other person came to realize they were greatly in the wrong

[@Mizkanska]

I always feel there is a massive divide between 'collectors', and 'investors', and this video is a great show of that. Personally, while I don't consider myself a collector, I have a wall of my absolute favourite video games beside my TV. A good 50 or so PS2 games, a good amount of Sega and Atari games. I buy for personal use, popping an old copy of Sonic or something to that effect into a console for a few hours of playing a game I view fondly. I could never consider selling these things, only expand my collection of things I have fond memories of or always wanted when I was at that age. While I personally have never had a game graded, I have bought one graded game in the past. It is a copy of Pokemon Silver, which is the very first video game that I had 100% ownership of myself, being the youngest of 4 kids who all shared family consoles. I have it as a 'prestige' item. It is not a high grade, just a 7.2. But to me it is more about having this piece of my childhood on display rather than having an expensive item which I can sell for a million dollars down the line. This is never going to be my intent. This person in this video only really speaks of collectors as people with intent to sell, seeking a return on some investment on a thing. Nothing is wrong with that, of course, but he does seem to paint people like myself in a bad light.

[@OmoiSenpai]

No wonder he's attacking you with all of these obvious lies. He's trying to reach out to his target audience (the gullible idiots) so he can sell off his own scammed investment!

[@SoulSeeker20]

Exactly, he's not stupid. We get it, his audience won't, and they'll eat up all the dramatic music, the strawman arguments, the blatant misdirection, the simple digestible narrative - he's pandering to the lowest common denominator.

[@bluegum6438]

It's all classic huckster prevarication, he has no interest in the truth or in making a good argument. Like the spineless mollusc he is, he expels a cloud of ink and flees back to his lair.

[@exalented]

No wonder we have so many blockheads in office.

[@PinkManGuy]

Scammers over the phone do this, too. If you're smart enough to see through their obvious lies? Dropped like a rock. They'll never call you again with the intent to scam, only to harass and annoy if you were an especially egregious example. I called my scammer a "benchode bosedeke" and he immediately hung up. I received calls for like two weeks. Presumably his boss told him to knock it off and call people they can actually scam, I dunno why he stopped. It filters out people who are going to waste the scammer's time. That way, they're only interacting with stupid people, and you know what they say about parting a fool from his money...

[@biggusdickus1234]

I love how every time some big name wants to discredit someone, they pull the "never heard of you" card

[@luizeduardogomesribeiropen324]

I rly don't get why they use that card, they think that they gonna sound pretentious when they use it?

[@biggusdickus1234]

@@luizeduardogomesribeiropen324 they think it'll make the person they're arguing against seem less relevant

[@fnors2]

It's the sign of someone with something to hide: when they can't win the argument, they attack the speaker.

[@kitten-whisperer]

It's a wack argument to have.

[@johnmoser3594]

That's happened to me so many times; I've learned to tighten up my arguments so I can destroy people with facts. This has extended so far that I now have answers to long-standing economics questions and no degree in economics, but can show that if I'm wrong then supply and demand theory must also be wrong and, in one case, that basic mathematics and the laws of physics must be wrong. People get kind of frustrated when they realize their position relies on the first law of thermodynamics to be incorrect, and placing someone in a position where it's clear they could only be right if adding two non-zero real numbers A and B resulted in a sum of exactly A is essentially the atomic wedgie of debate. As you can imagine, I HATE the credential check. It's the refuge of people who can't find a way to approach your argument on merit.

[@primequartz7292]

I like the bit about Tutankhamen's sarcophagus because no, sarcophagi are not meant to be slept in. They're coffins.

[@heatherearls9587]

God bless Karl and his undieing never ending quest to expose all the scum of the video game world. Be it some faked speed run or market manipulation Karl is a hero. Thank you for all your hard work and great video quality. Absolute Fucking LEGEND!!

[@thatacnhkid]

Man really said, with his wall of collected video games behind him, opening the video with how much video game collections are getting to be worth, that Karl was the one doing it for money.

[@levievil9220]

How much stock do you think he has imma more than 10 million

[@salineaddict9850]

@@levievil9220 probably around $160-200k. No way he actually has anything that valuable in his collection, he just hopes to. He’s dirt broke, and alone

[@levievil9220]

@@salineaddict9850 true but probably depends on what games he has

[@aegisScale]

Speculators love speculating, both on pointless products they think they can sell to unfortunate people and on the motivations of people who call them out (which funnily enough are easy to attribute to them instead).

[@lindseylindsey9200]

I mean, he’s rich enough to act like people had “nothing to spend their hard-earned dollars on” when the prices of essential goods was rising and making life for regular people hard

[@davet2459]

This man's video is a masterclass in how to announce to a community that you are not part of their community and are only associated with them in order to profit off of them.

[@JJFX-]

It truly is an amazing example of how shills and con-men operate. He talks down to the same community he pretends to be part of to make them feel insecure. Anyone who fills a video with cheesy stock shots, childish sound effects and quick cuts to back up a serious narrative clearly thinks the audience is stupid. This classic manipulation, which of course is exactly what he accuses Karl of doing at the beginning. This clown would sell out his own grandmother.

[@chaimafaghet7343]

Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks

[@oak7741]

@@chaimafaghet7343 What?

[@Squiddles_]

@@chaimafaghet7343 Care to elaborate?

[@jezoa]

@@Squiddles_ it’s a meme/joke

[@kingxbuu]

I freaking love Karls dry sarcasm ❤ it’s like completely wrecking someone with logic and facts while being a totally nice and lovable guy 😂

[@LR_Bushido]

Very nice video, all that guy managed to do was get even more eyes on the situation making it even worse.

[@reidood]

My favorite part was when he attacked Pat's credibility and even cited him as Karl's "source" in quotation marks in his clip of Pat's where he takes what he said about Super Mario Bros 3 out of context, but then literally right afterwards he uses Pat as a credible source when he stated his positive opinion on WATA games compared to VGA. Apparently Pat's credibility as a source is only legitimate to him when he states something that he agrees with.

[@txag007]

I caught that as well.

[@lowman5893]

To be fair, I believe he was trying to say that Karl was cherry picking Pat's statements which make Wata look bad and ignoring those which may make them look good. This really has nothing to do with whether Pat is a credible authority/source on the matter. Of course this claim is blatantly false and he hypocritically uses the exact same tactic he is accusing Karl of (worse actually since he is splicing clips to try and fabricate context).

[@BlinzerOmega]

darkviper coming in and explaining to them like 5 year olds the most basic concept has me dying

[@Sasser2015]

Karl was right, that guy was really great with visual aids.

[@MarioMastr]

"this is small circle. and this is big circle." that got me so good 😂

[@WumBuh17]

Darkviper sure can freehand an impressive circle in MS Paint though. That is impressive.

[@nickbell1198]

That was great

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

It's his specialty

[@David2on]

By far, the greatest shutdown response I ever witness.

[@hotfistVODS]

The first video you did on this inspired me to pick up a copy of two games that were extremely important to me and put them in super nice acrylic cases to keep them nice, as a little reminder of how valuable they are to me.

[@MrNikolidas]

That guy actually presented his video like a cartoon version of a parody of a youtuber presenting a video. "Guys, I need stock footage of every fifth word in my script." "You got it, Chief."

[@azurezeed]

Exactly my thoughts, they did a very bad job too

[@Tenchigumi]

It almost feels like thinly-veiled satire; it's hard to believe anything can be this corny and out-of-touch unintentionally.

[@MrNikolidas]

@@Tenchigumi I hadn't thought of it as satire. If that was the intention then they missed the mark completely. Satire should be obvious to the point of absurdity to avoid confusion, and this was closer to being presented as fact, not fiction.

[@korubi_eCSTatic]

He seems like a paid shill doing a “hi fellow kids” routine

[@kirbwarriork3371]

@@MrNikolidas It's hard for satire to be obvious when even the obviously absurd are taken as stances unironically. The Onion had to step up its game because news articles were coming out that sounded exactly as absurd as its "obviously" wrong articles.

[@mesadrums375]

Don’t ever trust people who pronounce Mario the way he does, when the character himself says it the correct way.

[@HoldFastFilms]

Right? He says Merio then second later pretends to not know how to pronounce Jobst. Irony is super sweet.

[@BluJayZax]

whoa, hold up - we gotta give whang! a chance

[@SianaGearz]

I read this comment before that part of the video came up... and i was puzzled, how would he pronounce it? "Marío"? "Marió"? He exceeded all my expectations by pronouncing it like Mayonnaise. Truly spectacular. Also when someone criticises someone but can't be arsed to pronounce their name properly, or even attempt to, that's not the own they think it is, really a selfown. My respect for that kind of person is going to be negative from the get go and they'll have to work extra hard to shift it back to neutral. Jobst shouldn't be THAT difficult a name for an English speaker, i would imagine.

[@mesadrums375]

@@SianaGearz I’m not saying his pronunciation is incorrect all the time, but the character himself says “it’s a me, Mario”, not Mair-ee-oh.

[@dopaminedreams1122]

@@SianaGearz He messes up Jobst on purpose because he’s an immature man child who thinks making fun of uncommon names is absolute comedy gold

[@Elyoki]

Hi Karl. I'm months late to the party and want to share a story with you as it relates to this video. Also, I love your copy of Wizardry! It's funny because I was building an arcade cabinet back in 2018 and accidentally came across your Donkey Kong series and...well I stopped working to watch them because they were interesting. A few years later I saw the follow up video and watched because it was curious to me. Now I once again happen upon your video as I'm looking at grading sealed product - way after it all seemingly went down. I'm not even subscribed. (Actually I'll click that button now). Your videos are very informational, very thorough, and humorous at times. I appreciate your perspective and the information you provide! Now I've typed about as long as your video is so I'll end it here.

[@wolfiemcwolf6617]

This was great! Systematically demolishing the guy, point by point. When Karl has a basket full of brains, and someone with a hamster wheel uses a thesaurus in an attempt to make him look inept. Love it. The fact that Karl has people after him demonstates how close to the bone he cut with his exposè. Keep up the great work bud. 👍

[@akkemaster]

This man actually called a sarcophagus, a literal COFFIN, a BED

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

HAHAHAHA!

[@jek__]

With the amount of mental gymnastics he's able to demonstrate he's probably been summersaulting away from contemplating mortality for his entire life lol. It's just like going to sleep!

[@aurochz9733]

That was the most baffling part of his video to me. The analogy was completely flawed on so many levels.

[@EgoChip]

Maybe he sleeps in one. He does come across as a vampire.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

@@EgoChip Let's shove some light into that room of his.

[@degonytesdumpzone2694]

I really like the contrast between Karl's cool, neutral way of presenting his arguments and that collector's cynical, bad faith delivery. Even regardless of the actual arguments, the latter loses all credibility from the get-go.

[@ElRectalo]

small brain-big effort responses are the best ones.

[@ctnc6059]

There's also the contrast of Karl's professional presentation and the collector's obnoxious effects. That alone would turn me against them if I didn't know anything about this before now.

[@OWnIshiiTrolling]

The investor guy lost me with the first wHaCkY eFfEcT wave. You just know immediately that it's style over substance, and that he has no leg to stand on. Meanwhile, Jobst keeps it professional, and has actual rebuttals.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@ctnc6059 God, yes, his editing is *so* goddamn obnoxious.

[@Kyrieru]

Yes, went in with an open mind and it comes off like Saul Goodman but without the charisma.

[@LFTDPrince]

So long story short with this guy... "tell me you didn't watch Karl's video without telling me you didn't watch Karl's video"

[@Nature112091777]

I didn't know until today that I wasn't here for a balanced story, and that I was an idiot who will believe everything you tell me because I don't know how to use my brain. This is a tremendous weight off my shoulders, thank you so much! This part had me rolling.

[@velvetkiss8014]

Coca Cola and Pepsi secretly switched bottles like 5 years ago.... (I have to know if this works.)