Villeneuve Plans to Exit DUNE, but Hints at Setting Up the Future

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[@flaviokauling1436]

Neil Blomkamp would be the guy for Children of Dune and beyond. He is imaginative enough to adapt the material into something with verissimilitude

[@hamishsewell5990]

Leto’s hybrid worm form would be interesting to see

[@flaviokauling1436]

@hamishsewell5990 that's what I think Neil could be really good. Because it's very easy to make it ridiculous. Someone with a special eye for creature design would be needed.

[@hamishsewell5990]

@ indeed.

[@Gwilherm]

Sorry it's kinda unrelated, but I'm so proud of Mr. Villeneuve and to be from the same province as him. We quebecers can rock!

[@jeongtris77]

My heart sank with this title i thought we arent getting messiah 😭😭

[@pikadasgalaxias306]

"Rendezvous With Rama" if properly done, will be 2001: Space Odyssey for the 21th century.

[@BanthaPoodoo94]

Think it could top interstellar?

[@pikadasgalaxias306]

@@BanthaPoodoo94 Easily. I love Interstellar but it requires a lot of suspension of disbelief. Rendezvous With Rama is a masterpiece that takes science even more seriously, without resorting to script conveniences, and the setting is even more haunting and exciting.

[@BanthaPoodoo94]

@@pikadasgalaxias306 interesting! I'm looking forward to it

[@jonasfermefors]

If anyone can do "Rama" justice it would be Denis. I would love to see that.

[@davidpetercantus]

The God Emperor MUST be brought to the big screen. Such a great addition to the Dune universe and continues the story began by Paul Atreides. And also sets up the future with the thinking machines in the distant reaches of space. Would be an awesome film if done well, and by a big name and competent director.

[@lillpoetboy]

As much as I loved God Emperor book, I hope it doesn't get made unless I'm in the confident writers/director of said film.

[@emiriveroll]

God Emperor should be made by Coralie Fargeat

[@solarydays]

nope. ain't no way you can sell a giant talking worm to the masses ....

[@GallowayJesse]

Lol little never happen

[@WmJared]

Leto 2 would do much better as a series like Foundation (of which I did not enjoy S1 due to divergence from books, but I had been won over by the adaptation by S2). The deeper conversations could be the entire focus of a single episode, or 3-4 episode arcs. Our Wormy Boy would be something like 4 seasons if directly translated at 10 eps a season, and I'm sure they'd edit/omit some things (beefswelling, anyone?)

[@frinkfronk9198]

If they don't have a detailed Beefswelling scene in God Emperor I'm walking

[@johnblunt1313]

Gotta say, your thumbnails are top tier. Great taste

[@NerdCookies]

Thank you!

[@Darkside_1994]

God Emperor of Dune directed by Robert Eggers would be awesome!

[@shawnjackson3764]

I agree.

[@parkera0430]

did anyone else read the title and think Messiah had been cancelled?

[@PhantomicGekko]

Yes. clickbait.

[@phunkysai]

Always appreciate your insight and continuing coverage of Dune!

[@lawrencereid2767]

Great info and great video

[@SanjuroSan]

I want God Emperor so bad.

[@tgiacin435]

We still got children of dune to get to first

[@treklad]

I'm fine with Villeneuve leaving after Messiah. Furthermore (and probably a hot take) but I don't think part 3 is necessary. Villeneuve's tweaks to part 2 did well to push the ideas that lead to Herbert having to write Messiah in the first place.

[@lordthothy]

Another great video!

[@jjnewbold]

I'd watch as many Dune films as Villeneuve makes. But I also adore Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 and am dying to see more sci-fi from him outside of the Duniverse.

[@squamish4244]

I've always considered Dune Messiah and Children of Dune to be one story. Messiah and Children wrap up the Atreides saga, for all intents and purposes. It worked in the 2003 adaptation very well and I can easily see it working now. You know in which direction things are heading and you feel one story ending, whereas you don't with Dune. IMO God-Emperor is unadaptable, as a film anyway. Almost all of the character we knew are long gone. It's a giant worm philosophizing for 400 pages. So strange and so disconnected from the previous events that I'm not even sure how you would adapt it.

[@ztmsirhc9353]

I can’t wait to see how he does Edric.

[@tgiacin435]

Him and Scytale. We got a glimpse of a face dancer in dune prophecy, but I can’t wait to see a full on face dancer, not a early model

[@tylerreed1152]

Guillermo del Toro would be the best possible director to continue to dune universe, IMO. The series gets particularly weirder the further you get along, and I think he could nail the God Emperor. Just imagine some of his designs with bene tlilax, guild navigators, face dancers, etc... He also knows how create depth and scale, Pacific Rim was a hit.

[@jakekgfn]

Was thinking the same thing especially during the worm form transformation

[@tylerreed1152]

@@jakekgfn He's just got that strange Lynchian mind that could add a nice touch to the universe. Considering Denis hasn't shown Guild Navigators yet, I'm not entirely sure we'll be exposed to all the different factions the come into play in Messiah. I could see him remaining at the sorta grounded level of the universe, and allow other creatives to expand onto the weirder stuff in the future.

[@tgiacin435]

@@tylerreed1152 idk, they were already mentioned, and the tleilaxu was already mentioned in prophecy. And the navigators play a role in messiah, so he wouldn’t really be able to ignore them. I’m just curious to see what they do with Feyd’s daughter. I could see her and Alia having a fight scene

[@tylerreed1152]

@@tgiacin435 You could be totally right, I'm just not going to be surprised if we don't get absolutely everything seeing how the first two movies have gone. Either way, GdT has got my vote for the next director of this great series.

[@antonioiglesias2031]

Please no, not Del Toro. If he signs on it'll be the death of the project. He'll extend Children of Dune out for a decade and them leave it in the middle of pre-production to chase something else. It's a habit of his.

[@sergioagra3846]

We need to see Ghanima and you know.....Leto II, the god emperor

[@milton1448]

With what he's done to Chani, he may need to go away and let someone else take over

[@yodasmomisondrugs7959]

💯👍

[@shanenolan5625]

Thanks Elaine

[@mishagertos]

I just realized that Paul with his dark cloak and steel suit on with the hoods up is very God emperoresque

[@lilwater7358]

It should be eggers.

[@HevonCZR]

Im worried about who is gonna fill the role of director for the later movies

[@mysticlegion8088]

I hope someone who actually cares about the lore.

[@mjinba07]

I think direction on further installments will be kind of a hot potato if there's a push to get them out. Villeneuve's work cultivated standards and preferences that are unlikely to transfer well. He did a great job with Blade Runner 2049 but it was after a 35 year gap from the original and Villeneuve was uniquely suited to honoring of Scott's masterpiece. I'd be happy to let Villeneuve's work here stand as is.

[@Angry-Books]

It will be similar to Star Wars being made by someone other than George Lucas.

[@FikaBastardo]

Perhaps another director could make 'Children Of Dune' and God Emperor' as a duology focussing on Leto?

[@JarvisCosric885]

If we ever get God Emperor of Dune, I will scream with extreme joy. After that, I’m good and I will always consider God Emperor of Dune as the absolute end of Dune

[@jeffreyroedel9804]

Best case scenario is Villenueve makes an incredible Messiah that improves upon the book and serves as a fitting conclusion to his main Paul/Chani-focused storyline, while also leaving things open for future stories, then Villenueve stays on as Executive Producer for two Children of Dune movies with a new director that DV approves. I think 5 theatrical movies, Dune: Part 1, Dune: Part 2, Dune: Messiah, Children of Dune: Part 1 and Children of Dune: Part 2 would serve the DUNE franchise well, and then other things could obviously be series on streaming. Might be difficult/expensive to get all the necessary actors back after Messiah though, even for smaller roles/cameos.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

_"that improves on the book"_ Excuse me? We don't need adaptations which try to improve on the source material! The reason the novels are being adapted is BECAUSE they're good! He's already cut out too much off the story from Dune. Both films should've been 3-4hrs long each, with shorter theatrical releases followed by longer Director's cuts, as Peter Jackson did with LotR. Hopefully, he doesn't cut anymore and faithfully adapts Dune Messiah!

[@jeffreyroedel9804]

@@GonzoTehGreat An adaptation. That takes the book and turns it into a quality film. For that to happen, changes are necessary. That's why it's called an adaptation. Filming a book, and one like Messiah page by page exactly as the book is written, would make for a poor film experience.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

@@jeffreyroedel9804 Agreed. Changes are necessary, but these don't need to improve the book, just faithfully adapt it. I may not agree with all of Villeneueve's edits, but they're his perogative as Director. However, "improve on" implies deliberately changing the story to make it better...

[@jeffreyroedel9804]

@@GonzoTehGreat No just altering the story of Messiah so it makes a better movie and continuation of Villeneuve's series moreso than a straight page for page adapation. That's all I mean. So for instance, Dune part 2 already diverges from the book in ways that will impact Messiah. Those threads need to be followed up in a compelling way. I think DV will do it well.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

@@jeffreyroedel9804 _so it makes a better movie_ Dune Messiah hasn't been adapted into a movie yet, so there's nothing to compare it to, or improve on. Regardless, a faithful adaptation would be preferable. _"and continuation of Villeneuve's series moreso than a straight page for page adapation"_ I think it's obvious that it will be a continuation of his previous films. He's not suddenly going to deviate from them... Also, as you already pointed out, there's no such thing as a "page-for-page" adaptation, so that's irrelevant. _"Dune part 2 already diverges from the book in ways that will impact Messiah"_ Such as? I can't think of anything except his proposed changes to Chani, but it's been a long time since I read it. As I said in my original reply, I don't think he should try to IMPROVE ON the book, which is LITERALLY what you wrote in your initial comment. An adaptation doesn't need to this. If you meant something else, then OK.

[@bellaususfitzpinguidpalate8732]

Please Denis, just do Children of Dune. I wouldn't trust it to any other director. 😭

[@byronwilliams7977]

Maybe Alex Garland

[@Transformers217]

Agreed. Maybe Christopher Nolan could do it.

[@xx-zo9ew]

He already fucked up The first two movies. The main characters were trash.

[@antonioiglesias2031]

It's over, he's done after the third one. He said it during Dune part 1 that he's not interested in continuing the franchise forever, doesn't even understand the later books.

[@bellaususfitzpinguidpalate8732]

@@antonioiglesias2031 It's not that he doesn't understand them, it's just that CoD is far more difficult to film, very young age of the main characters (I think that would be the hardest thing) and concepts become more difficult for newcomers. But I believe if anyone can do it justice it would be Denis. At least he's read the books and is a big fan, he wouldn't add superfluous nonsense.

[@Transformers217]

Great info. What Dennis Villeneuve has pulled off has truly been masterful.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

I’m fine with this. The next movie concludes Paul’s story, and that’s a good stopping point for him. It takes about three years to make a movie, there’s six books, spending 18 years of your career on one franchise is a lot to ask. Added to which, the saga doesn’t have a proper conclusion, as Herbert decided not to write the final book. So this is a good stepping-off point for him.

[@House-Atreides]

He should definitely be a consultant for whomever picks up the next book! Why the hell not!

[@pablohenriquez1984]

I really trust someone like Gareth Edwards for this challenge, paired with the same writer for Dune and Messiah

[@jkdbuck7670]

Don't let Rian Johnson anywhere near Dune. G Edwards will do a fine job

[@rosswatson9144]

Children of Dune is my favourite… the 80s television series handled it quite well… And it’s a good opportunity for the actresses playing the Emperor’s daughter and Paul’s sister to shine.

[@jorgeabraham3414]

you want to do the God Emperor, Denis, you know is His voice at the beginning of the films, dooooo iiiiiiit

[@I_am_Gaith]

I hope Villeneuve sticks the landing with Messiah. I’m really interested in seeing how he’s going to bring Edric to screen. Bijaz and Scytale are going to be interesting additions. With how Villeneuve brought forth such humor with Stilgar, I’m thinking Bijaz will be a meme factory of a character. I’m honestly not sure who could follow Villeneuve. I’m thinkingGod Emperor and onwards you could go with a director like Terry Gilliam, Roger Eggers, Duncan Jones, or Alex Garland. Nolan would be the easy answer, but his relationship with WB is shot to hell.

[@MikePhilbin1966]

I would love to see MORE DUNE MOVIES... even the last two books, adapted by his son had some good cinematic content. :)

[@IAGaldames]

Somebody said Eggers for God Emperor and I agree. But also... Paul W.S. Anderson for the butlerian jihad and the machine crusade movies, with Milla Jovovich as Serena, those books and that director deserve each other.

[@OneKillQuota]

Man...if he can LAND "Messiah"...it'll be a series up there with LotR. So many fail. But if he can nail this story overall, it'll be one hell of a series to watch over and over again.

[@h.astley2113]

what a shame david lynch isn't around to take over

[@cacogenicist]

_Messiah_ is going to be the artsy, Oscar-bait film of the bunch.

[@josephlamonica4167]

Hopefully we never get This nerd cookies video will be the last. Elaine we want videos from your Retirement home :P

[@JammaLamma]

Are there still rumors of a Rendezvous with..... jfc i need to watch the whole video before asking questions😂 literally as I'm typing that it's mentioned. Love ya thx

[@johaarup]

I think Denis should take ownership of Dune. Like Peter Jackson and George Lucas did with their worlds. BUT if they need another director for Children of Dune I would like see a Joseph Kosinski's vision of it.

[@yodasmomisondrugs7959]

NO!

[@troffle]

The guy who decided to do an isolated "Galapagos Island" out of TRON instead of showing the variety of technologies and possibilities like TRON 2.0 did. No, thank you.

[@johaarup]

@@troffle sorry, but Joseph did direct "Tron 2" or am I misunderstanding something?

[@troffle]

@johaarup misunderstanding. He directed "TRON Legacy". Years before that was the video game "TRON 2.0" with the voices of Boxleitner, Cindy Lora/Yori Morgan and Rebecca Romijn. The storyline for 2.0 was much more intelligent and made much more sense than Legacy. You can probably get it from Gog for something like $5-10.

[@troffle]

@@johaarup Kosinski's version had CLU planning to invade the Earth with weapons, cycles and Recognisers that would NOT WORK in the real world. Not to mention, for every program he planned to bring out, he'd have to abduct and laser someone in. That version of CLU is an idiot, just like Kosinski and the scriptwriters. Don't get me started on "blood in the Grid" or "tell the world we decided to open-source our operating system", it would've been leaked with the commercial licence locked in. Nobody writing that film had the faintest idea. I cosplayed for the premiere, bought the game, bought the merch, bought the tie-in comic, realised it contradicted the movie... ... the second time I saw it I started seeing the holes. The third time I saw it the holes were gaping and unavoidable. Seriously go check for 2.0 on GOG. It's much, much, much better as a world design and a story. Based on that movie, I see Kosinski sucks.

[@marknovak6498]

It looks like he might leave it open to Children of Dune, good news for a well financed miniseries

[@christopherkline4042]

A filmmaker’s worst nightmare is to be trapped or controlled, just like how Marvel traps and controls its directors. Denis is an artist who possesses an extremely broad perspective on a multitude of different subjects. And it would be a disservice not only to himself, but to audiences everywhere if he isn’t allowed to tell new stories.

[@miragewizard]

So it will be like the Harry Potter film series, where Christpher Columbus directed the first couple movies and then handed it off.

[@thesean3194]

DV overran second base and realized he was going to get tagged out.

[@startrekiborg]

What I want to know is, is Jason Mamoa returning?

[@kineticstar]

I'm gonna bet WB is going to Snydervers Dune once DV leaves the franchise.

[@FIDreams]

He did say in the past that he just wanted to do Paul's arch, and even though (Spoilers) he's in Children of Dune. His roll is not that of a main character.

[@londomolari5715]

If the Dune Universe is extended, please, please, please do not hire anyone associated with Marvel, Star Wars, Star Trek, or any inexperienced writers and directors (and perhaps not Ridley Scott).

[@OnceAndFutureKing13711]

Don't worry... the Amazon and / or CW creative teams are ready and waiting (they have plenty of experience pushing out content).

[@concernedearthling3353]

Hopefully he goes back and retcons the silly ending in part 2 where Chani runs off like a spoiled teenager......That is my only major complaint about his two movies that I consider to be visual masterpieces.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

He won't, as it was a deliberate foreshadowing of what's to come. He's changing her character to be the voice of reason against Paul's Jihad...

[@Slomoshun4u]

I'm sorry but I didn't we know this prior to Dune 2 releasing? He said multiple times that he wants to make 3

[@marknovak6498]

Hope Rama is next after Dune. Cloepatra is already a please no with his casting.

[@standard9741]

praying for god emperor adaption 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@jennabronson4704]

SyFy’s Children of Dune with McAvoy was actually fairly decent. I can stomach watching it, but not so much their Dune miniseries.

[@bobmorane2082]

He said it in a interview it’s his last dune if someone else wants to pick it up from there go ahead but he’s done with dune

[@johncnorris]

Does Rian Johnson have any experience with trilogy handoffs?

[@dr.matthewhertert310]

i have a hard time imagining anyone who would be up to this task. ten years ago i would have said aronofsky, but not now...

[@Dhieen]

I think denis villeneuve doing 3 dune movies is already great for all of us, I dont think a director did that before, like for star wars it was multiple directors The person who will make childre nof dune will have 3 movies to get inspiraiton from, its more than enough to continue on this path, or do something a little different, but not too much; so they just need a good director, i dont care if its not villeneuve

[@rickbase833]

Doesn't surprise that Denis wants to move on. He's poured his heart and soul into a universe that is complicated. Shame the Oscar group didn't even nominate him for best director or the films for best picture. I guess the priority of the academy is to throw nominations at movies that virtue signal. Whatever.

[@davidpalmer4184]

The new director can be anyone... So long as they don't work for Disney!

[@VoloMalVor]

WE'll never have a god emperor will we ...

[@audio_tron]

Denis is among the best, if not the best, world-builders in the game. That’s the prime job of a director, to build worlds. He lost me for good because of his ideologically-tainted writing that strayed from the book in unforgivable, unfaithful ways regarding Chani, and to a lesser extent, Stilgar. Great director, unfaithful writer. Tragic.

[@billyalarie929]

I have broken the spell of the 666 likes. I apologize for this, but I had to show my appreciation.

[@nathanwish6857]

I don’t get the need to “age” the characters for the next film. Given that spice extends life, roughly x3 given some references. Over a 12 year jump, they would have appeared to age 4 years. Thats not much. With the exception of Alia being not born yet. I’m still uncertain how thats going to be handled.

[@brianmcguinness9642]

I hope he does a good job with Rendezvous With Rama, as I really like that book. But the sequels are not very good, so I don't want to see adaptations of those.

[@Druzidel]

I mean, let's just say what he's thinking: Children of Dune gets weird... and I think for most people that set their expectations based on what they see in Dune parts 1 and 2, and (maybe) Messiah, what comes after may be a bit too jarring.

[@merrittboydston7569]

Hey Nerd Cookies, do you have a favorite book in the Dune series?

[@LikeCarvingACake]

Darren Aronofsky has entered the chat

[@Taggartize]

He did a decent job, but my gripes with the movie are things he changed arbitrarily. Mainly Chani, Lady Jessica in part 1(part 2 was better but not perfect), and making all the Harkonnens bald and pale just came off as cartoonish, paired with no real emphasis on their intelligence, just made them hard to appreciate as a real threat.

[@logiclust]

Villeneuve confirms fartin in the elevator as de exits

[@KonnorKreyest-tn4pw]

I’d rather see him and Nolan develop another ip with Quentin Tarantino

[@lukejw11]

I personally find the concept of a trilogy for the Dune books is not all that accurate. Dune and Dune Messiah form more of a duology. Herbert wrote them together and they were released within 4 years of each. Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune form a second duology - both written after the first duology with a release 6 years later, and they released within 5 years of each other. I wouldn't read Children of Dune unless you were going on to read God Emperor of Dune. In many ways, this is consistent with Denis take on the franchise and his part in it.

[@lordcrunk4790]

"I had the place, and the characters, and the thrust, for a monumental story, with a lot of action, people, evolutionary processes displayed. And it kept getting bigger. Of necessity. There were all kinds of things happening. . . Finally, I just took out how long it should be, and started building from the back. Where does it have to go? So parts of Children of Dune and Dune Messiah were already written before I completed Dune." - Frank Herbert from Chapter 9 of "Frank Herbert by Timothy O'Reilly, 1981.

[@lukejw11]

@@lordcrunk4790 I am sure that some parts of Children of Dune in mind in those early phases. However, the timing and content of Children suggest that it is closely linked, and a lead in, to God Emperor.

[@scotlandtheinsane3359]

I shall be VERY happy if he keeps his word!

[@abcun17]

Maybe he can start directing actual movies again. After 2016's "Arrival" he lost his way, churning out abominations like "Blade Runner 2049" (🤢🤮) and overhyped cinematic fast-food like the "Dune" movies. For me, his best movie to date remains "Sicario". Though most if not all of his earlier/prior cinematic endeavours are quite interesting and thought provoking as well.

[@rodneymckay8860]

This is disappointing but expected. I think that Denis is the only one who can translate Dune onto screen well. My concern is that Children of Dune will be of Dune: Prophecy quality.

[@DerechteAlbrechtDürer]

Damn... I thought the thumbnail title meant he was out NOW. I have zero interest in the Zendaya Show he has for Dune 3. In fact, to get the taste of Willy "Dylan" Wonka and Zendaya out of my mouth after watching Part 2, I bought the Blu-ray of Lynch's Dune.

[@milton1448]

Yes, Zendaya is a weak link and has the screen presence of a plank of wood

[@15walkingaway]

Great idea, it's gonna start getting weird after that.

[@MrJoshDoty]

He should redo the second half of Dune so it follows the book. Dune 2 had great special effects but story was not good.

[@adamd8424]

Dune Messiah is not a good stopping point for the story. You have to go at least through children of dune

[@cacogenicist]

Everything after _Messiah_ is going to have to be big-budget TV. _Andor_ season 2-sized budget. Too wierd for film.

[@BbNaB]

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out Denny, AND STAY OUT

[@MartinAngers-j5n]

Hahahaha. So you are the village idiot.

[@CaptainNotFinity]

Dune Messiah would be Dune 2, wouldn’t it 🙄

[@FikaBastardo]

As opposed to 'Dune Part Two'?

[@Smokeisprogress]

Not looking forward to him doing another Dune.

[@maxmercer1931]

By casting Zendaya as Chani, it gives the studio what it wanted, eliminating more White characters from any future Dune movies in the franchise.

[@hogowar]

If V doesn’t do Children there’s no way the actors will do Children either. Sad face emoji.

[@ragadrop]

I bet that Dune Messiah will kill the franchise, the material is too bizarre for the main stream.

[@obsidian00]

I mean…things get way too WEIRD after awhile and seeing as he couldn’t adhere to the LORE in his first 2 movies, this is a wise move on his part! 😊

[@NotMyGumDropButtons.444]

i think D3 would be too hard to get right..... i think he is doing the right thing.... get out early

[@willard39]

Disappointing, though I'm sure I'll enjoy whatever he makes. I would have liked to see the initial trilogy resolved by him, but if they make both Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune with the same dedication and quality, we all win.

[@galidornII]

i mean he thought he was more virtuous and smarter than the author and wrote himself into a corner changing crucial characters, now he realizes he cant stick the landing after gutting important plots and altering characters motives, indulging current year identity politics.

[@napinthesun]

I prefer the television miniseries. DV ruined so many characters. Its painful to watch his movies.

[@moejaime2654]

Villeneuve has truly screwed up Frank Herbert's original stories and universe of Dune !!

[@happymaskedguy1943]

The number of bitter, ill informed, petty, nitpicking Dune ‘fans’ in the comments is honestly pathetic. If it wasn’t for Villeneuve, you wouldn’t have a Dune revival, you wouldn’t have two of the most beautifully directed and crafted films of the past decade, you wouldn’t have anything. Instead of crying about how the films didn’t perfectly live up to your impossible expectations, maybe try appreciating them for what they are, rather than what you arbitrarily criticise them for what they aren’t. Grow up, please. It’s embarrassing. And some of you are older than me.

[@humbleopulence]

If it wasn't for Denis, I'd have an actual Dune fan making this adaptation now, after the politicization of media, and Id get a far better product. Also, if you think that people who disagree with you on a movie need to grow up, then you're the one still in diapers

[@GonzoTehGreat]

I think he's done a decent job of adapting the novel, but there's still plenty to critique and no, I'm not thankful for his films. I was a Dune fan long before them and will remain one long after they're forgotten by most people. Meanwhile, adaptations will come and go, some better than others and Villeneueve's version is much better and more faithful than Lynch's beautifully flawed attempt, back in 1984, so there's that.

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

It sounds to me as if, having taken a hatchet to critical aspects of Frank Herbert's original vision, Villeneuve is going to bail out before he gets to the parts of the story that will become much harder to adapt due to decisions he has already made in the first two movies - Children of Dune is where the harmful legacy of the actions and decisions of Paul in the original Dune novel starts to become fully evident (arguably more so than in Dune Messiah) in the books, something that Villeneuve has preemptively undercut by refusing to have faith in the intelligence of the audience and instead trying to crudely hammer home the idea that Paul is a dangerous figure whose leadership will have perilous consequences for the Fremen and the galaxy (and is possibly even a nascent villain in Villeneuve's version) earlier in the narrative than Frank Herbert originally envisioned - and which will also be where the liberties he has taken so far will become ever more evident to the viewing public, even those less familiar or unfamiliar with the source material. If Villeneuve plans to extensively rewrite the origins of, or even exclude, the characters of Leto the Second and Ghanima from the narrative of Dune Messiah (entirely possible given what he has done to Paul and Chani's relationship and the way he has already cut their first born child from the narrative), then adapting Children of Dune in even a minimally faithful fashion will be entirely impossible. The same will be the case if he decides to take further liberties with the characterization of Alia, which on prior form seems very likely indeed. I pity whoever gets stuck with what will most likely prove to be something of a poisoned chalice of a director's position in any hypothetical Dune Part 4.

[@joakimnyback1931]

He changed the story too much, i don’t like it. Also, I think the casting of both Paul and Chani is way off, none of them is believable as a warrior.

[@HerbieBancock]

I'll take horrible CGI tigers over Zendaya any day.

[@crvlad]

He'll change his mind and do a 4th movie if everything is perfect with Messiah and if his availability and desire is different in 3, 4 years from now. Maybe he'll take a 5 year pause from this world and return in 2030 with the plan to do another one.

[@Woodrow0]

Good riddance. Give the series to Robert Eggers (The Lighthouse/ Northman/Witch), he does esoteric very well. And is not colorblind.

[@KonnorKreyest-tn4pw]

The Northman was gay as fuck

[@KonnorKreyest-tn4pw]

I was embarrassed. But idk it’s ok, I just thought it was historically inaccurate. I should know. I was there,Gandalf. 3000 years ago, when I saw the strength of men fail.