Vince's Is For Sissy's! Arnold Disses Vince's Gym

[@Imkicelee]

It’s not only that I’m fascinated by young Arnold and his bodybuilding days, but that I’m actually looking at how life was in the 70s. Hollywood, and how people were in America back in the day from the cars, the style, no phones around. What a great time that was…

[@robby7025]

Arnorld always sabotaging potential competition before they ever become competition.

[@stevemann1299]

Lucky Lee Haney hadn't been around 10 years earlier. Or Atnold would have got his ass whopped.

[@mr.critic]

@@stevemann1299 Comparing Lee to Arnold is like comparing Shawn ray to Ronnie Coleman

[@halfmanhalfamazing2152]

​@@mr.criticand comparing Arnold to any modern bodybuilder is like comparing them to Barney Fife!

[@panathatube]

Comparing different era bodybuilders is fun but totally inaccurate. Different gear, nutrition, methods of training, different aesthetics even. But even for today's standards Arnie's biceps and pecs are out of this world

[@stevemann1299]

@@halfmanhalfamazing2152 Shawn Ray won no Olympias. Haney is the greatest Olympian of ALLTIME.

[@johnkelley6278]

Payback for Vince saying Arnold was Fat ! Funny clip.

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Yes, I believe that this was Arnold's way of getting back at Vince

[@juanrodriguez5404]

You got that right 👍

[@hendrong]

This tracks. I love Arnold, but he is petty, haha.

[@DavideTerminator]

Arnold è sempre stato meschino,poi nella Golden Era il suo ego era enorme.

[@immaduck9232]

@@hendrong Idc if it's petty. Vince sounded like a d*** h*le. Arnie saying Vince's was for sissies is the least he could do...

[@Nsamity]

Yeah... they made the right choice keeping this out of the movie

[@Connery007neckache]

I don’t know him getting his dry cleaning was pretty exciting.

[@robertpanetta7912]

Looks like Vince did not like Arnold and Arnold did not like Vince . This happens in life . Vince was great and Arnold was great

[@DavideTerminator]

Vero👍

[@ironguru7866]

People forget that Pumping Iron was a Docudrama and not completely real. It was scripted and filmed much like a movie. Arnold had respect for Vince and visa versa. Vince refused to say negative things about him later in his career. This whole bit was written with the intention of getting Bud into Gold's so Arnold could coach him.

[@DonnieMatthews-lo6yk]

Vince was a nut case.

[@bryanstellfox8521]

@@DonnieMatthews-lo6yk The line between genius and crazy is very thin indeed sir.

[@BustedKnuckles69]

Arnold was much greater ...just sayin lol

[@juggalogamer8541]

Man it's so cool seeing all this basically deleted footage from pumping iron

[@Sport-wv8og]

i wish they just upload all the footages to the internet arnold said 100 hours of footages was made for pumping iron

[@mfanz]

That'd be awesome.

[@LennyLewis]

I agree

[@beburs]

He would expose himself lmao

[@maddymolu]

Arnold’s charisma is so imposing and to this date is unrivalled

[@gyanmata1234]

True that. It seems effortless. You are mesmerized.

[@georgewilkie3580]

That was Outstanding! Just getting a glimpse of Arnold in a non-Hollywood setting, back in the Day, was amazing! Obviously, this was some type of skit, put on by two professional actors. However, I imagine the point of the skit was that Vince's Gym was second-rate when compared to, Gold's. It seems that there's a very interesting back story as to Why all this was done. So, please, if possible, give us some of the details of what compelled the making of this short skit and video. And, Thank You for being out this little, but fascinating piece of Bodybuilding History... Well Done!

[@juanrodriguez5404]

Forget the chicken exercises 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

LOL

[@georgewilkie3580]

Right on point, Juan! Arnold was always great at coming-up with a great funny put down... LOL!

[@MaheshWalatara]

He just walks across the street like a machine. Oh wait...

[@ronaugelli2201]

Arnold trained at Vince’s Gym. Gironda was way ahead of his time.Then Arnold drank the Weider Kool Aid

[@zxtenn]

Back when a BB didn't have or want a 50-pound belly in the off season, i take the classic look and healthier lifestyle anytime.

[@Nero-ox5tw]

The first one was very realistic. The others were too scripted.

[@xaniiu]

First one was definitely the best one

[@zerrodefex]

Especially the one where he comes back in and interrupts him, so obviously scripted.

[@phililpb]

I think Arnold and Vince did not like each other but they were both intelligent men and still had a very begrudging respect for each other

[@naamAmaan]

arnold acted better than any of his movies in these deleted scene

[@handsforwarrodneymorgan2616]

In a recent video with Joe Rogan,Arnold credited Vince with teaching him alot. But yes, Vince ran his gym his way or the highway. Even Frank Zane complained that during the filming of Pumping Iron ,he had to train at Vinces and there was no squat rack and he couldnt squat. Its not just the squats...he didnt like bench press,he came up with some convaluted " guillotine " press,which yes I have tried,it kills your shoulders because he says to have the upper arms in line with the bar. Never saw him recommend overhead press,just some side lateral motion. Vince was def. A great trainer,but not having the basics to build your body is just silly.

[@chriswylie253]

Arnold knew Pumping Iron was coming out and ripped Vince's gym to promote Golds as the only bodybuilding Mecca as it's the center of the film. He thought shrewd like that even back then. You can also tell Arnold was working very hard on acting lessons at this point and is trying to impress. Obviously it's a staged bit as a film camera wasn't randomly in a dry cleaners pointing at the door and they even show Butler's film crew getting takes. Arnold is doing all sorts of "reacting honestly", first he makes no eye contact with Cort when he walks in, then asks the store manager "how much" despite the package being bogus, disputes the fake change then picks up something Cort drops. Then takes a huge look at his watch before saying where he's going next(he's going to finish the shoot at Golds with Cort). He is working so hard to be a good actor, and knows Cort(a famous actor at the time) could be a resource for future acting work. This is what everyone describes as to how hard Arnold would focus on his next career moves and plan.

[@jd0879]

Im not reading all of that

[@chriswylie253]

@@jd0879 You don't read much of anything.

[@theironforce3000]

Wow 😮 Remarkable footage . Amazing how many outtakes that scene have. All on different angles and approaches. I wonder if that line was originally part of the 'script' or it was ad libbed / improv by Arnold . That was a serious jab to Vince's Gym 😳😄👊 . . After closer looking at this footage, I finally discovered the address of that location. 8025 Sunset Blvd ! I driven up and down there many times when I was in LA. Hard to believe that was a dry cleaning shop as most of that has changed a bit. However, the parking lot that Arnold is heading towards across the street is completely gone😮 That building next to parking lot is Schwab's Pharmacy. That name has been defunct for decades. That particular location (8024 Sunset Blvd ) closed down in '83 apparently. It's a large shopping complex building with Trader Joe's logo outside and other smaller retail shops, gym, theatre inside.

[@georgewilkie3580]

Hey! Thanks so much for the great details pertaining to the area in which this interesting skit was made...The idea that the Famous Schwab's Pharmacy is gone, saddens me. It seems quite a few soon to be famous actors were discovered at Schwab's, or at least patronized the Pharmacy. Thanks again!

[@mariogiresi6792]

Lots of great information. I was wondering if all those shops and stores were still there. You answered my questions.

[@theironforce3000]

@@georgewilkie3580 You're right, the brief info that I found during the search stated that particular pharmacy during the 20s - '50s was quite the hotspot in the Hollywood scene regarding actors and producers of that era. It may hark back to the old soda pop shops/general mills format before it specifically became only a drugstore as we know them today.

[@williamj.dovejr.8613]

After viewing his scenes with Arnold, Bud Cort felt that the scenes, as much as he liked them..he thought they would slow the pace of the film and overall distracting. He told George Butler, Charles Gaines, and Arnold to cut his scenes and he returned his salary so they could use it to finish the film. Arnold promised him that they would save his footage and put it back into the film so everyone could see them. Some of that footage was included in the 25th anniversary dvd edition of Pumping Iron.

[@Tar-Earendil]

Interesting! Cool Move-from both of them! 👍

[@blastofo]

omg thats the boy from Harold and Maude

[@davidh7832]

Arnold first came to the US In about 1968, and this footage is probably from 1975. And he basically already mastered English fluently. That’s pretty incredible if you think about it. And he saved most of his dollars to invest in real estate around Santa Monica, which was even more crazy since he became financially stable on his own before his acting career really took off. He must have been super busy in those days even tho he was still in his twenties there.

[@tylerhamilton-nz8qs]

All a set up he had powerful people backing him well before he came to America!

[@Flippie123]

Love this. Great footage

[@MagnusDivision]

Ive seen a few people mentioning the bogus calf implant rumors. Somehow Arnold got calf implants that flexed in the early 70s when even decades later muscle implants look terrible.

[@peternagy-im4be]

He went to Germany for a 'holiday' and returned with calf implants

[@Azazel2024]

I don't buy it

[@stratolestele7611]

​@@peternagy-im4be😅😅😅

[@peternagy-im4be]

@@Azazel2024 he did

[@Tar-Earendil]

​@@Azazel2024Me neither. C'mon! 😏

[@WhyAreTheyOverHere]

@ 04:52 This dry cleaner address is most likely 8025 Sunset Boulevard . On the same side was the famous Greenblatts Deli. Across the street is the famous Schwab's Pharmacy at 8024 Sunset Boulevard. Read the Wikipedia page about this place. Long gone. This is a real historical video.

[@jobysaad]

I was just wondering that. I wanted to know exactly where Schwab's was...it was Virgin Mega Store when I lived there.

[@smileyscrubs2262]

Spot on i think yeh

[@MikeDunn]

Thanks, I was wondering about that.

[@Naturalhit]

Sad how Arnold put Vince down when he approached him to help him lean out. Not surprised though he is a Weider boy, the so-called trainer of champions when Vince was the original trainer of champions.

[@glennday7802]

Met Gironda back in the late 60's. He was an insufferable tool.

[@peternagy-im4be]

A major league asshole

[@knightveg]

Can't even go to the launderette without being followed by a camera crew 😅😅😅,

[@geraldn1]

Dude! This was awesome.

[@jamesbianchei]

It really was a bad idea thinking this actor would work out in the movie Pumping Iron. They didn’t need actors. The movie became a classic all by itself!

[@donquixote...]

Nobody to this day is interested or impressed with Bud Court... You're 1000% right.

[@Tar-Earendil]

​@@donquixote..."Harald and Maude" is a Cult-Classic. You can't even write his Name correctly. ❄️

[@donquixote...]

@ghostnote1970 That's the point, who cares...??? He really didn't belong there. Those in the audience of pumping iron were not interested in seeing him there, or wanting to see more of him, etc.

[@Tar-Earendil]

@@donquixote... You're Delusional.

[@donquixote...]

@ghostnote1970 OK, who wants to see more of Bud Court on Pumping Iron...? Show us who's clamoring to see that. Now you may argue that people have expressed interest in seeing all of the cut out footage, but again, show us where the interest was for the bud man court scenes... You think there's demand for that, you're delusional.

[@lewisfruen5648]

Vince would have been fucking huge if he was willing to take proper drug protocols, but I commend him for being sensible, and not doing that!

[@truthsayerq7264]

What?? Are you serious?

[@donquixote...]

Vince didn't have that type of physique.

[@sunriseboy4837]

Yep, because he had intelligence, not just a big dick!

[@tomscerbo1588]

No squatting in Vince's Gym! You get the 👢 boot outta there!😂

[@valleystrengthandfit]

When will you be interviewing Arnold? You need to collaborate with him on the rest of the Pumping Iron footage

[@colonalklink14]

Too bad none of the 1974 Mr. Olympia contest was filmed in colour.

[@austin-dl1wp]

@@colonalklink14 i find it hard to believe arnold knew that was the best shape of his life and didn't want it recorded with professional film, maybe he didn't have the funds?

[@colonalklink14]

@@austin-dl1wp Yes, Ivi seen the black and white footage and it looks like it was filmed in the 1800's. It's terrible.

[@travisrassel9978]

HAHA. Arnold had a personality. Why not just make a dvd with all these scenes in it? That would be cool. It would sell.

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Lol, it's a good idea!

[@justinwill1163]

@@GoldenEraBookwormI damn sure would buy that soon as it drops lmao please consider

[@HumanGorillaHormone]

I sure hope you don't give much business advice. Dvd's haven't sold in 15 years. Perhaps he should start singing and release an 8 track also?

[@junkyard-p1s]

I just watched it here. Why would I want to buy a dvd? 😅

[@Richard-xg1vv]

@@junkyard-p1s Supposedly there were 100 hours of film made and the movie was only 90 minutes, some of the clips leaked out but much has never been seen and probably won't be.

[@reamartin6458]

🤣Here are some real pointers 💉💉🧪💊💊

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

haha

[@StreetTruckinTitan]

yeah cause thats all it takes. 🙄

[@RIVALContentJammerz]

​@StreetTruckinTitan Absolutely, to get to competitive level. These guys have dead spirits.

[@Coffeedrinker4848]

​@@StreetTruckinTitan Without it 💉💉💉 it's IMPOSSIBLE ! Stop minimizing the role these substances play.

[@stevenworld3364]

Vince was a Genius, and Arnold knows this, I only shared a handful of training sessions with Vince and Guy but wished I could have spent years learning from them.

[@JasonOrtiz-ye1do]

What year/years were these?

[@eoinforHIT]

So, who did Weider send Arnold to train with when he came to the USA to improve on his physique & weak points? I'm pretty sure Vince's gym had immensely strong, complete bodybuilders, some of the best of the era. It's funny that both Gironda & Jones had choice words on Arnold.

[@stankormy5717]

That’s California’s future Governor right there!

[@RM-uf1rh]

Dirk diggler always wanted to work out at Vince’s gym

[@mariogiresi6792]

The sequel was called Harold and Arnold-1975. Unfortunately it bombed at the box office😂Thank goodness this was removed from the film! Fascinating though, seeing all those old 70s models and makes.

[@stevepick9527]

Larry Scott trained at Vinces and took his advice…nuff said on THAT topic! 😆

[@IronWarrior86]

Arnold didn't like Vince's gym and rightly so. Vince was an asshole.

[@Junlt0]

Vince had some really good instructions, but yes, he was a jerk. If you didn’t follow what he likes, he didn’t like you

[@onazram1]

That's if he didn't like you..

[@Atlas_21]

So is Arnie "f your freedom" Schwarzie.

[@jimbojones6169]

@@Atlas_21maybe more should of listened! Stop the whining!

[@Atlas_21]

@@jimbojones6169 Listened to whom? The whining is done by this steroid junkie. Look at his pics when he was off the gear, look like total sh*t. And don't start about all the fixed contests he should have never won. Makes you wonder what kind of deals he had with Weider....

[@travisrassel9978]

Arnold is huge.

[@billwilliams4877]

Today we did 8x8! Best results for naturals. Vince Forever!!!

[@EliasFarias-w1v]

Arnold Was trained and mentored by Vince and Serge Nubre in bodybyand acting and groomed for business by Joe Weider

[@argocomics6207]

Cool to see these extra outtakes. I guess about 10 years later he would be recommending World’s Gym over Gold’s 😄

[@PowerfixSolutions]

Best bit of acting arny ever did

[@utopianseeker5493]

Chicken exercises. LOL

[@Deadragonbone]

last scene was the best 😂

[@Amar1338]

Bud Cort the other guy was in a crazy car wreck in 79 in LA . He almost died .

[@Azazel2024]

Wasn't her in harold and maude

[@Amar1338]

@@Azazel2024 yes &a shit load of movies including original movie MASH .

[@algrundau9441]

Well......Vince called him fat, hated steroids and banned Squats, Deadlifts and Sit--up's ect. from his gym. Arnold liked all of the above....He also promised Joe Weider to go with the whole 'TRAINER OF CHAMPION'S" Bullshit even though Vince trained far more Champions then Joe ever did.......Vince was a bodybuilder....Joe was a businessman. Arnold is both.

[@goldenera4ever]

Good move not keeping this in the final cut.

[@LordLorenzo271]

I heard some of Vince's chicken exercises got Arnold cut and defined. It's said, Joe Weider sent Arnold to Vince, to chance him because he was walking around smooth. Wasn't comparing look with the other bodybuilders, for example (Frank Zane)

[@HumanGorillaHormone]

You understand that no exercise on earth will get u more cut and defined right?

[@martinabreu566]

​@@HumanGorillaHormone Yep, it's diet, suplementation and 💉💉💉

[@LordLorenzo271]

@@HumanGorillaHormone really? Did someone say that to Joe Weider when, he sent Arnold, over to Vince 🤔

[@TheBatugan77]

​@@LordLorenzo271 Shove your Joe Weider ass kissing.

[@paulredman8509]

Love it! Thought that I've seen every clip of Arnold, then there's this!

[@johnmcintyre1965]

When Arnold first came to America after winning the Mr. Universe contest, he showed up at Vince's Gym where Vince Gironda insulted him by calling him FAT. At some point Arnold switched to Gold's Gym. Here he disparages Vince's Gym after having made the switch to Gold's. Many years later, after Joe Gold sold his gym, Arnold switched to World Gym and talked shit about Gold's for which he got sued and had to edit out any disparaging references to Gold's Gym from his bodybuilding books (Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding).

[@MO.GuerillaRaven]

even Arnold thought Arnold need acting lessons

[@K.HansHakenson]

Oh, I LOVE this! Lol

[@markshadowco2221]

The actor locks like inspecteur gadget 😂😂

[@larrydowling]

he had more woman, then i had pizzas ,i just cannot believe he dropped his leg over the house maid ,of twenty years and was caught.wtf how does a clever guy like this get caught.

[@DavideTerminator]

Praticamente è la sola cazzata che non è riuscito a coprire😂

[@Dakers11-pl8qj]

Good thing Bud wasn't Sarah Connor.

[@DevonKletzel]

From 9-12 and from 4-6 everyday. 5 hours in the gym a day.

[@totallyfrozen]

Back in the days when grown men spoke calmly and didn’t tell like drama queens so much like you see today. “Forget the chicken exercises” has me dying. 🤣

[@SmedlyButler-cq5iq]

Its no wonder Arnold was so beloved. Look at him

[@railwayman2274]

You find some amazing stuff. 😎

[@onazram1]

This was great..

[@austin-dl1wp]

the calves in 2:15 is unbelievable

[@DavideTerminator]

Si ,era incredibile anche il chirurgo che li ha impiantati.

[@stratolestele7611]

​@@DavideTerminator just stop already.

[@smuglumberjack]

Arnold being Arnold, ballsy as usual heh

[@bragiodinsen4604]

vince didnt let people do squats. hed kick people out of his gym for doing stuff he didnt like.

[@Trendle222]

he also wouldnt let you do barbell curls, you either did Scott bench (not preacher bench) curls or Drag curls (where u literally drag the barbel against ur body all the way to top and back down. there werer many things that narcisistic idiot made people do or he kicked them out. Also you HAD to eat 2 dozen eggs a day or u got kicked out, and many many other things, who the hell would want to train there is beyond me

[@theenlightenedone1283]

😅 Arnold is a natural

[@Stage2colonGUY]

5:21 Compared to a lot of the mutant freaks of today's bodybuilding, Arnold doesn't have the biggest legs, but how could you not marvel in those awesome calves muscles of his. Arnold was astethcilally proportionate to his height and body shape. Could his lower body been bigger? Absolutely. IMO he was perfection despite.

[@tylerhamilton-nz8qs]

Real height 5f t 10 barefoot and small sloping shoulders!

[@stratolestele7611]

​@@tylerhamilton-nz8qs false

[@jacobdyer9164]

he drank that dude's orange juice and gave it back to him.

[@Ace-fq3vy]

Anatomy of the first Celebrity Social Media Influencer post...

[@kanedmx]

mic is so strong even he is outside the closed door 7.45

[@johnny6610]

Arnold with his calf implants from Mexico 😂

[@peternagy-im4be]

Germany

[@12037211025as21]

I heard that story that Arnold Schwarzenegger had calf implants and looking at that it's kind of suspect

[@TheRoyalBavarian]

Calf. ? I thought it was cow ?

[@TashiTrainer]

no they were implants, he built them like he did with his rest of the body.

[@jackjax7921]

@@TashiTrainer Its fake like most of his Olympias.

[@garyanthony4854]

Thanks.

[@AP-go1ks]

These scenes are priceless! Rare Arnold in 1975 Olympia form weighing 240 lbs, massive, almost as big as his 1974 Olympia peak

[@Stage2colonGUY]

Excuse me, uh is your name Arnold? -Yeah. It's Arnold- schz - Schwarzenegger. * You Damn right you are 👌

[@CRtrain]

Budd Cort was also the manager of the diner in Heat.

[@stuartleed5498]

So happy they cut this - omg is this terrible

[@Deadragonbone]

no bubble guts ❤

[@CooteRJ_84]

Not sure which version was the best.

[@anthonyklemens1315]

Not a secret that there was no love lost between Arnold and Vince. Vince's training and dieting methods were not in keeping with Arnold's and the Gold's Gym crew, but you cannot argue with the results. Vince was ripped before the term "ripped" was coined not to mention he trained the likes of Larry Scott and Mohamed Makkawy.

[@carlt8188]

"I just started working out, literally today"

[@tomscerbo1588]

Vince was Iron Guru! 💪🏋️‍♀️🇺🇲🇮🇹

[@Nick_Slaughter]

Ah, the good old days of enthusiasm and dissing out the competition😁💪👍

[@MarcelHarding]

Vince no good

[@nicholasthomas3635]

Vince was far more real than Joe.

[@saizkumar3627]

What ??? 😮 He disrespected vince 😢 Whats your opinion on this carlos ?

[@Junlt0]

Vince had some great ideas, while others were question marks. He didn’t like drinking water during workouts because he said it would make you gain weight. He also didn’t like cardio workouts which Arnold did. Like I said , Vince had some good ideas, but he was a jerk if you didn’t do exactly what he likes

[@immaduck9232]

9-12 and 4-6 everyday! Sheesh. Must include back, chest, abs, calves and posing in the morning, then legs and more posing in the evening or something like that... 5 hours in the gym lol.

[@peternagy-im4be]

Anabolic steroids enables you to do that. You and me? No chance.

[@immaduck9232]

@@peternagy-im4be And genetics, and work ethic, and the fact that he only did it maybe 2 months before a contest

[@MrLennybach]

Arnold knew what he was saying

[@billybobs1705]

why does it keep showing the same clip?

[@Jari1973]

Arnold is quite a goat.. how many of us can see the back of our shoulders under a t-shirt 💪' I don't even have such a muscle as a back shoulder 😂

[@ManuelGarcia-nw2bg]

In his youth Arnold was cocky, not the nicest person around....

[@jacobdyer9164]

on the last take. he took that dude's orange juice and drank it. then handed it back to him.

[@asrsniperx3577]

Arnold just seem way ahead of his time ... a prime Arnold today would be rocking the industry he just seem very unique and intelligent

[@fastbackgt4821]

BC "I'm working out." AS "With weights?"

[@craigleibbrand7761]

Vince trained Arnold for 2 years. Joe Weider sent Arnold to Vince. Vince put Arnold on the map. Don't believe anything Arnold says.

[@hardcorehouse]

Correct, except it wasn’t two years. It was less because Vince was a tough taskmaster. You either followed things exactly or you were out.

[@TheDrewsample]

“Screw your freedom!!” Arnold

[@QuietDriver97]

@@TheDrewsample Damn, remember that crap? He totally forgets the country that had the opportunity for him to make all this money and fame.

[@Scorch1028]

Vince Gironda trained Carl Weathers during the 1980s. So, Arnold‘s criticism of Vince’s training methods doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

[@e.m.-lw1dn]

Fantastic

[@RM-306]

Arnold's Calves!

[@carlosmora8534]

Gironda was the Best ...