Painting Bretonnian Knights - HC 435

[@travis8106]

Vince's contributions to the miniature painting community are massive, and as a new painter, I highly appreciate them. You're the man, Vince!

[@billgross3763]

I look forward to these videos every week. Thank you again for all that you do!

[@warhammer-neophyte]

Really appreciate your efforts of including so much useful info on a variety of topics in a single video.

[@SandmanofTerra]

My God, you make this look so easy. Truly incredible to watch

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you very much!

[@cybermartyr8839]

I really loved seeing the blending technique used on the purple barding, it made it really easy to see how you implemented the technique & it looked fantastic on the finished model!

[@gamelover260]

I have a friend that is very hardcore painting, to the point he gives me alot of troouble for how i army paint, not going super ham on everything like he does. thanks for showing me that we dont hae to go 100 on everything. sometimes it just painting itself that is enjoyable.

[@isisnmagic1812]

Great video and awesome to see a flat brush being used, I have in my acrylic brush collection but not used as no one does in videos so good to see that and put my mind at ease to start using. Hint where you say you wipe you brush on a damp tissue paper, I find a damp sponge say in a little container like a make up pot to clean my brushes as I work.

[@cml4914]

I can't believe using a flat brush never occurred to me. Mind blown

[@dougsundseth6904]

That sort of long hair just above the hooves of a horse is called the "feathers". It can be the same color as the rest of the horse hair. If you have a different color of hsir on the lower leg(s) of a horse, that is stockings or socks. Historically in Europe, dark horses were thought to be better than light horses, so the high-prestige units (Knights, or Cuirassiers, depending on time period) tended to have very dark horses. The lighter horses were mostly used for light cavalry and attendants. One exception is that bannermen and musicians would often use grays (white is a gray for this purpose) for visibility. Also, there was a long-held belief that the hooves of horses with white stockings were more prone to splitting, so stockinged horses tended to be avoided. Also, there is often a correlation between the hoof color and the color of the hair immediately above the foot, so white stocking -> light hoof and no stocking -> dark hoof. (In a fantasy world, of course, none of this might apply. I just thought it might be interesting.)

[@VinceVenturella]

Awesome!

[@TheArmyPainter]

Great video Mr. Venturella! Loved seeing those Fanatic paints in use.

[@VinceVenturella]

More to come!

[@tutubeater1]

As a wet blender I loved seeing that blend from peach orange right into purple!

[@Nicholas1994]

Looks really nice. I'm just finishing building my Bretonians from the starter box and I got an old starter box off a mate to bolster my forces too. Still trying to decide on a scheme, but very tempted to go with the errantry crusade.

[@mattbrown1306]

The most accessible Knight tutorial I've seen. Excellent video sir!

[@krzysztofmathews738]

Very cool. I very much like the use of the Magnesium paint as a base coat for the chain mail. It really does give a sense of mass to that surface.

[@charlescarpenter9098]

FYI - my decal process starts with a gloss varnish first, then everything you said. I find it helps give a smoother surface for it to adhere too. Mine are also mainly cadian shoulder numbers/markings, so the gloss helps with the rounded surface. May not matter on larger flat areas like these shields though.

[@MaskedRiderChris]

Seems I need to start putting those flat brushes I have on hand to use, then, when need be. If it will help me improve at wet blending, I'm all for it!

[@Bakecrusto]

I love purples and violets, and especially a purple-white color scheme, but both of these colors can be a bother to shade well, so seeing this thumbnail was pretty exciting. While I prefer Bretonnians in particular even more colorful and over the top, this is still really useful as a purple/white/horse painting guides all in one, so thanks a lot!

[@galatician8063]

"O what a knight!"! Simple but looks great and appreciate the tips. Thanks Vince!!!

[@AvocationNation]

Love it. I love the wet on wet, I've appreciated this technique from your channel before. Thanks!

[@sebastianforsell6981]

Very nice! Horses is a dear topic to me so I’d like to give some tips and hopefully return the favor in how much I’ve learned from watching your videos. Historically and still today there’s been a great desire for certain horse colors and uniform looks. So ofc most have heard of the white horse and that it’s the color or royals and it stays true… but actually in more eastern cultures it’s the black horse (rare) that is the horse of Royalty. The eastern horses are typically a bit smaller and faster than the “European knight horses” and you could have a much bigger number of them and the colors would vary more. -Back to the European knight horses- “much bigger, much heavier, capable of carrying much more armor and basically acted as the medieval tank!” 300 mounted medieval knights was a big army. Those horses you don’t wanna pet- the horse itself was dangerous and was trained to fight. They could run you over, kick you- “even with it’s front legs” but they could also grab you with its teeth and start tossing you around or even take chunks of your flesh off. -Yes there’s been instances were they’ve bitten half a head off. “Just imagine you’re 5 guys on foot trying to take the rider out and the horse grabs you on the arm and starts shaking you around knocking your friends over and stopping on them as they fall over and then taking a piece of your flesh off as it tosses you away on the battlefield. -Due to everything around these horses, training, gear, armor, food, space and people needed to take care of them it was very hard even for the king to muster a large force, making the selection process of horses they wanted to “bet on” very picky… hence uniform colors made a criteria. Typically these were brown horses with black legs, tail and mane for the soldiers with as little white as possible but sometimes it sneaked in a small white sock or a small white star in the head of the horse. -Pink is a (depigmentation) that could cause sunburns that would also be avoided. white horses belonged typically to the royals but here’s the interesting part about white horses. They’re called grey because they have a transition progress from young to old were they start very dark brown grey with small strands of white hairs (Look Eomers horse from lotr) and then turns more and more white until it’s completely white. -This means that white horses might already be passed it’s prime age, but very well trained making them perfect horses for the royalties who might not match the skill or even have the same need for fighting on their horse. (Mostly for show) a young general/ prince might select a younger grey horse if it’s a very skilled rider and wants/ needs to fight. But mostly it was brown horses. Black horses are more rare and not necessarily hated such as chestnuts colors were but it was so much easier sticking with brown horses. -it made everything much simpler. Different color horses don’t get along as well, white horses are harder to clean, black horses during the summer is not as easy as brown horses etc. also when you select and breed the “best” horses there’s a big chance that they all become very similar and somehow related so they may look very much alike. So this was quite a bit information but I hope anyone who reads this enjoys it and helps you painting or giving a story to the horses of your armies and how to match the horse with the rank of your rider 👍🏻🔥

[@kevinhayes517]

Thanks for another great “tips” tutorial that will help on lots,of,future projects.

[@VinceVenturella]

You bet!

[@Psilocybear]

Excellent work! I've been planning on using these same colors but on Tomb Kings and this definitely helped inspire me and some very useful tips. Wonderful color scheme and paintjob!

[@alancook1053]

AK TB Grey!!! my favorite base cote due to the red in the color. great video! thx!!!

[@Gage_Welch]

That flesh tone for the purple highlight was interesting

[@jimdawdy6254]

This channel is incredible. The clarity, the methodical way mini painting is taught, and the depth of the explanations is just phenomenal. It's like getting tutored in painting chapel ceilings by Michaelangelo.

[@philgee486]

Quality vid as absolutely always I'd never go Bretonian - but I do have some absurdly late medieval arthurian stl prints to paint for fun and the flat brush is obvious now Vince points it out (so often true) Love the armour treatment for units and tabletop models, way better than acrylic wash tho I'd still pinwash with oilpaint to crisply bring out the detail (especially chainmail) such as it is.

[@TerrierHalo]

I have really taken a, in my humble opinion, a huge step forward in my painting in the last six weeks and about 49% of that was just listening to you explaining things in your videos even though the end result and technique is out of my reach, thank you for that. Although I am unsure what the biggest thing with wet blending is, I’ve seen plenty on how to but I’m not sure as to the why. Speed and ease or better end result? It’s three years out for me, at least, but still curious. ;)

[@VinceVenturella]

Yes, speed and blending.

[@TerrierHalo]

@@VinceVenturella Thank you kindly.

[@meralda5582]

I love how Vince say fleur de lys!!! I,m from a small place in Quebec maybe that’s why

[@ronkarnack3906]

Thanks Vince. I wish I had access to you and KZbin back in 1998 when I was painting MY Brettonians. 😆

[@earnestwanderer2471]

Thanks again Vince.

[@Wijkert]

Suggestion for improving workflow: if you did the decals before the airbrushing the varnish, you get a even more even finish and you save time because of not having to brush varnish after applying the decal.

[@VinceVenturella]

I will often do that as well, I usually varnish multiple times. I just show them the varnish with brush here as not everyone has an airbrush. :)

[@chidaddywbz]

Hello lord technomancer! In your opinion, if you were to tackle a bretonnia army today from scratch, is single color scheme or technicolor bretonnia more visually appealing? Or perhaps there is a middle ground that would be best of both?

[@VinceVenturella]

I'd probably mix it up a little with the characters but make each lance unified. So I would do basically 10 knights in a given scheme and so on.

[@ramza813]

man oh man Bold Pyrrole Red is AMAZING. ty!

[@njabruzzo]

Thank you for producing this Vince - love the 'Old World content!

[@robford1225]

I've never liked brettonia knights before. I am now looking forward to getting my hands on some and painting them up in a poor parody of what you've just done! Thanks for another amazing video.

[@VinceVenturella]

Have fun!

[@chucklamb3496]

Thanks so much, I love these Saturday videos.

[@VinceVenturella]

More to come!

[@leighrigby3730]

As always Vince, your timing is impeccable 👌

[@VinceVenturella]

I appreciate that!

[@Ethnarches]

Always amazed by your speed Vince! It takes me 15-20 hours to do one Skeleton Warrior for my Tomb Kings! Now, they look pretty great if I say so myself, but not as great as that amount of time implies. These are repaints on my original 2003 models so that adds time due to some complications caused by that, but still. It's a dream army for me as I'm building the army I couldn't afford as a teenager using only the original 2003 range of models. I'm fine with it taking a long time to really look good, but I'm now a year in with barely a couple of units and characters done so I have to speed it up if I want to be able to play the game in less than 5 years! Not really asking for anything, I'm aware of at least a few things I can do to speed it up without much loss of quality, just commenting. :)

[@VinceVenturella]

And I appreciate the comment. :)

[@私たちは一緒に行進します]

I dont want to back seat paint, and your work looks great. Just thought I would point out as you said you were going for a real looking horse. A horse with white socks will have light coloured hooves

[@Mikey__R]

Flat brushes are massively underrated. There's so much they can do, and so many ways you can modify them to do even more. The cheap synthetic taklon brushes you can get anywhere also tend to be better quality than their round or speartip brethren. Have you tried experimenting with Goldens Extend medium? I've been interested in it for a while but haven't pulled the trigger yet.

[@VinceVenturella]

I have not, I will have to check it out.

[@Mikey__R]

@@VinceVenturella oops, it's called Open medium. Their literature says it works with SoFlat, I've no idea how it might play with other brands.

[@TheRyanMeredith]

Excellent timing on this video! I'm about to paint a knight or two this weekend

[@VinceVenturella]

Have fun!

[@fancymichael6113]

Very Saint's Row scheme vibe, nice :D

[@Thaumatolgist]

Will definitely use these tips!

[@VinceVenturella]

Great!

[@bodotrenaud7441]

Fleur de lys, the S is said 😊 Nice video again thank you

[@lukevassh7740]

Nice color scheme. 👍

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@markgnepper5636]

Great stuff friend 👏 👍

[@Stonehorn]

I’m using this guide for my whole army. Different liveries for each knight, but same technique.

[@smoothbrush4722]

Nice painting sir

[@ReadyToRole]

I can not tell you how much I was hoping for you to drop this video! Gives me hope as I stare down a lot of ponies and knights. More of a general question, and I feel like I know the answer is "they're your models do what you want"- what are your thoughts on going outside of the historical tinctures used for knights? Old Bretonnian boxart/army books followed it more or less, and I have a scheme in mind that doesn't quite follow it, but I'm a bit hesitant because I'm concerned it won't give the same effect when done. Also bonus question- if you were painting your first Bretonnian army now, would you use a unified scheme or the classic varied colors?

[@VinceVenturella]

Always paint your army however you want. I would probably vary by unit, so groups of 10 knights.

[@mpywak3685]

Thanks a lot for this Vince. Could you explain which colors would you use for other colors of caparisons, like cool white, red, yellow, or blue? I was thinking to use Vallejo Ice yellow to highlight a deeper yellow, and a sepia to shade it, and use Infantry Blue - Blue - Royal Blue for, well, blue knights. Does that make sense? I’m kinda stumped when it comes to the other two though.

[@VinceVenturella]

ANy can work is the short answer. For example, I have vidoes on red and you could shade with black, you could highlight with pinks, oranges, flesh tones and even fluorescents depending on what effect you want. Its more about the enevironment you are creating, if its a cold environment, then colder highlights will be better. if your knights are out in the sun, warmer highlights (yellows and so on), will serve better.

[@mpywak3685]

Thanks. I’ve been going crazy trying to put together information from your various videos… I have problems figuring out a few things. For an army project, (Bretonnians, so lots of different colors), should I apply cold/warm highlights (and opposite shadows I assume, btw do you cover this topic anywhere?) universally across all miniatures? Is going with cold highlights a good idea at all? I feel in your videos you usually focus on warm highlights and cool shadows. How do I apply cold highlights to e.g. reds or yellows? Is glacier blue or similar the answer? If I do cold highlights on red, can I no longer shade with purple for example? Wanted to try that after you mentioned ot somewhere… Sorry for rambling, but I’ve been searching for answers for some time, and can’t put the puzzles together.

[@freelancerblitz2579]

This guy looks great! If you were to paint him with contrast or speed paints how would you best do it? I'm not sure how best to zenithal prime what colours would be best across all the Knights as I wanna go old school and paint them all different, should I prime them with different colours for warm and cold colours or will all the same base prime look good?

[@VinceVenturella]

It's tough, this is place where contrast paints don't really work. Your worst case with those paints is large flat areas, and this guy is all large flat areas. You would want to use the same large brush and wick out most of the liquid and try to apply them in a smooth even coat, not slap it on as it were. A zenithal like you see here would be fine.

[@freelancerblitz2579]

Thanks for the advice, my Bretonnian knights are the older ones from 5th edition fantasy battles so there even more large flat areas 😂 I’ll give both methods a go, i prefer to use speed paint to glaze and shade with mostly rather than slap it on but it really like the flat brush idea 👍

[@ZSpark62]

How do you attach minis to bases for painting. Like I know you have the Knight separate form the horse and paint them individually. I am just curious how you mounted the knight to the paint stand/base thing so that its sturdy enough to paint. Thank you!

[@VinceVenturella]

I am using the grabby holder from GW here, but blu tack can work as well.

[@pdubb9754]

It is a very small thing, but I was struck by how bright the white decal was relative to the rest of the finished model, even after the matte varnish. Is it appropriate to add shading on top of decal? I am more of a spectator than a painter, and have never used decals, so this comes from a position of naivety.

[@VinceVenturella]

Yes, I usually apply a soft shade and paint the decals (I even have some previous videos on it :) ).

[@alternate3787]

Hey Vince, did you hear that Vallejo is also doing a new gen of Model Color? Had a flyer in my order and since you like their model color I wanted to let you know

[@VinceVenturella]

I’ll have to check it out.

[@peterlageri4177]

I miss the link to the Gold recipe

[@corytokay9787]

How wet is the paper towel you use when wet blending? Is it soaked, or just a few brush fulls of water?

[@VinceVenturella]

Just some brushfuls of water.

[@RavenMorpheus]

Great video Vince. Knight armour has always been a bit difficult for me to get right but this technique, and specifically the color paints used, make it easier. I do have a dumb question though - I get that magnesium + dark grey is the shadow and pure silver is the highlight, but which layer (magnesium or magnesium + silver) is the mid tone, i.e. the general overall color of the armour?

[@VinceVenturella]

General magnesium would be the mid tone in this scheme, but you could do the mix as well, it’s just where you want to set the brightness.

[@darinvenkov6258]

Hi, what would be a good quality acrilic paint, not for miniatures but for things like diaramas, terain and buildings ? I see offten Liquitex is used but unfortunately I don't have any in my area.

[@VinceVenturella]

Honestly, any old craft paint can work for terrain without too much issue.

[@darinvenkov6258]

@@VinceVenturella Thank you ❤

[@sorcererscircle535]

Could you paint the new duke on Pegasus?

[@VinceVenturella]

I did paint him up, though that was just for myself, didn't make a video, that beign said, the same rules would largely apply. I will likely do the standard bearer as well at some point, so may make another video there.

[@sorcererscircle535]

Awesome! To be fair seeing the standard bearer being done would be amazing@@VinceVenturella

[@CygnusMaximusXIII]

Another excellent and timely video - thanks, Vince! I realize that Bretonnians and their heraldry are made-up, but as a heraldry nerd, I *hate* that the caparisons on their horses have shields moulded onto them. It's just... dumb. And I blame your Warhammer Wednesday shows for the fact that I spent some time over the weekend digging out and inventorying my mish-mash of old 5th ed. Bretonnians and have started trawling ebay to get the rest of what I need so that 14-year-old me can finally have the Bretonnian army he so desperately wanted. It's gonna be pricey... and did I say it was your fault?

[@masterwesty]

I have converted Bretonnia into undead. I’m struggling to get the varying colours of Bretonnia but to get it looking dark and evil at the same time. Any tips or advice from anyone would be great.

[@VinceVenturella]

You will want to desaturate the colors, darker reds and added tints for highlights. Basically, take the colors more to the extremes.

[@troybirch6478]

Is there any danger of the micro set/sol damaging the acrylic paints? (I'm using pro acryl) should we varnish the decal application area first? I love the content! Seeing my favorite mini painters giving tips on painting Bretonnian knights has me breaking out my 20 year old first-paint-job-ever models for some badly needed repainting haha

[@VinceVenturella]

Only if you let it bead up and then dry. You don't want it to bead up that way.

[@xyonblade]

I saw a video of yours from 2 years ago "how to paint crystals" and it got me thinking I have seen tutorials on how to paint gems but I haven't seen anything about how to paint pearls, have you ever thought about how to paint pearls?

[@VinceVenturella]

My short answer would be don't honestly. It's one of those things that are very, very difficult to render.

[@xyonblade]

@@VinceVenturella fair enough, I've been curious about it as an alternative for painting gems on minis.

[@MKeele83]

Vincent V, what’s your thoughts on airbrushing these Knighte?

[@VinceVenturella]

You totally could, I didn't want to show the airbrush to keep it simple, but absolutely.

[@TheDuke07]

Why do all the recent videos have static sound in the background? is something running that wasn't before. Seems like since the new year at least there's been a static sound over the entire video.

[@VinceVenturella]

I will look into it!

[@seppbrandner]

Hey dude love the chanel and love the old world content! Maybe in the future a tutorial on mummified skin or TK constructs for us bone-boys? 😉 Also side question. Ive been in love with your gold recipe ever since i saw it and i ran through a whole bottle of the vallejo metal color gold. Recently i ordered two replacement bottles in a row(from different shops) and they now have a different label dedign and look totally different. No matter how much i shake it, they come out a sickly greenish silvery color. Have you had any similar problems lately and if so, do you have any recommendations for a good gold replacement? My poor tomb kings are missing their bling! 😢

[@VinceVenturella]

Get a little of the copper and add the copper into the gold in a 1-2 ratio and you'll get a nice warm gold.

[@mathieuboe9128]

Am I daydreaming? Is that some Charadon Granite in disguise at 6:50?

[@ADTRPG]

Deckle....always makes me laugh. Also, it's not Dee Cal either, but more like - Duh Call but good luck getting anyone to say that, lol :P

[@trisbane4086]

Why is it duh call? That does not follow any rules of English pronunciation. I think it should be dee cal simply because it sounds better than deckle.

[@ADTRPG]

@@trisbane4086 “Decal,” a design that can be transferred onto another surface, is short for “decalcomania,” from French décalcomanie (Latin calcare “to tread on, press”). The process was originally called décalquer. The little flare on the E is where it gets the "duh" sound from. I do agree that it should be pronounced Dee though, but English is not consistent in any shape/form/way .

[@stargazingkiwi]

You're going to need another box of brettonians.... If only there was a raffle where you could get a box.

[@VinceVenturella]

If only!

[@cyagen9782]

Why did you used Magnesium and not Steel? That would have been my Instinkt to get DARK metal....

[@GilthosDrakoniss]

👍👍

[@stuartfarrell6729]

they are called feathers

[@kennypalmer8971]

I know this is a random comment on a bretonian painting video, but when you get your hands on Ushoran can you do a video on how you paint him? The GW video is just awful and doesn’t do him any justice at all. He needs a proper paint job from our favorite artist

[@kendrickwhite4868]

Vince v is the goat

[@soccastar001]

Deckles

[@peterlageri4177]

Hmmmm. Did or do you have a cold these days? You nose seems a bit red. Take care.

[@VinceVenturella]

No, I just blow my nose a lot because I have allergies all year round.

[@firstevidentenigma]

We've got some typical condescending-no-people-skills-public-school-teacher-vibes going on here. bleh

[@VinceVenturella]

I can't wake up early enough to be a public school teacher, but I do get the vibes. ;)

[@Malthus]

I was asking myself: "Why does his nail on his thumb look so nasty", then I realized when it came into focus that it had paint on it...and then looked down at mine which had way more paint on it. 😆

[@s33n34]

First

[@dannythompson9642]

👍👍