John Salley on Why Michael Jordan Hasn't Spoken to Charles Barkley for 10 Years (Part 15)

[@torrisfairley3227]

I'm a huge MJ fan but Chuck did nothing wrong and the only thing I see is MJ got a taste of his own medicine. MJ told Scottie not to go to Houston because Charles lacked work ethic and when he was on the Oprah Winfrey show he said Chuck didn't have what it took to be a winner. But when Charles said MJ was doing a terrible job as the Hornets owner, which was true, it was a problem. Chuck was just doing his job by making an honest assessment.

[@bowsershark]

You are correct on this aspect of the Chuck analysis. But, Chuck spoke about the inner circle of people around jordan which he had access to as a result of being MJ's friend. The private interactions of the inner circle are off bounds because those moments Chuck would have no access to if he was not in MJ's inner circle. Those he took advantage of private conversations and used the information publically for his job. No Bueno! Behind close doors talk is not meant for his job's public audience.

[@kevintowns9552]

Barkley need to say it's cool when they do it but it's a problem when I do it

[@emahunncampbell5902]

Excellent points!

[@gye-nz7fx]

facts

[@lamontewilliams3011]

Chuck did much that was wrong.

[@calypsoseraph]

People need to stop feeding Jordans ego and hubris. Charles wasn't wrong, he talks basketball for a living.

[@dnice4145]

You'd be wise to learn that not every relationship has to be maintained at all costs. Charles wasn't talking basketball he was insulting his friend and the people who work for him. What the hell does Barkley know about running anything besides his mouth?

[@Native5]

I wish people would stop defending Celebrities and thinking Celebrities gives a damn about them or anything.

[@michaelmcmillan1425]

@@dnice4145 Not really. He criticized him as an Owner of the Hornets. Not the biggest fan of Barkley, but he spoke FACTS!!! Jordan was just being SENSITIVE!!! No different than the Sam Smith "Incidents" when he wrote The Jordan Rules. And Salley was EXCATLY right when he mentioned Oprah. She didn't say S@@t when the Harvey Weinstein situation went down. ALL you heard was CRICKETS!!! SMH.

[@sneakerman7647]

@@dnice4145well said…….people think it’s about Barkley not kissing up to Jordan. Barkley crossed the line when he didn’t talk to voice his opinion to Jordan as his friend prior to ridiculing him on National tv. Not a cool thing to do if he’s your friend……at least go to him first…….

[@9614cp]

@@sneakerman7647 U another MJ stan, it's hilarious how you weirdos worship this man who wouldn't even look your way if you said hello to him in an elevator.

[@lionellogginll]

Let's be honest at that point in time Charles was correct and doing his job. I don't want a friend that I can't be honest with or that won't be honest with me.

[@urbanchangewithin624]

Yes BUT when you are best friends of trust you shouldn’t blindside your true friends professionally knowing the politics, racism in that profession amongst peers and knowing how deep the backstabbing & hatred goes. Your behind closed door brothers and in front of those doors to all presented your brother as a failure. Charles was wrong and chose a side he didn’t have to. Trust is over

[@lionellogginll]

@@urbanchangewithin624 That's being sensitive. Mike has sucked as an owner. Charles was doing his job as an analyst. If you're not doing your job correctly you'll get called out. We always complain about favoritism until it goes our way. Do a better job Mike and nobody will have anything to talk about.

[@dnice4145]

@Lionel Loggin yes, easy for you to say because you only see wins and loses. That doesn't mean everyone who's ever worked for Jordan is a "yes" man get real. Winning is hard for any franchise.

[@lionellogginll]

@@dnice4145 I don't think that way. I agree it is hard to win but he hasn't made the right choices as a GM or owner. The people around him were not helping the situation. It's a business not a friendship

[@briandiggs3508]

@@lionellogginll Its not what he said. It's how he said it

[@msxacademic]

The Last Dance showed Mike is in his feelings. If Barkley is making legitimate criticisms and not spilling secrets what’s the problem? If your “friend” doesn’t allow you to speak truth to them: THEY ARE NOT YOUR REAL FRIEND

[@michaelmitchell8239]

But Charles spoke to the World about MJ.

[@fudgematthew33]

Exactly. Just because we're friends doesn't mean I shouldn't do my job by giving objective opinions.

[@flyguy7825]

Bro, he criticized his friend his best friend. If we are to believe him in public about how he runs his business, friends don't do that, not any friend I would ever want. If you have problems or if you have issues with that friend on how he ran his business, then maybe you should go directly to your friend instead of running off at the mouth and public.

[@Ekleaz]

Gtfoh!! Many people criticized Michael Jordan, Charles tried to do it and entertain people, it was not about telling the truth. He was feeling himself. I would never want a friend like that. That's not what friends do.

[@flyguy7825]

@@Ekleaz facts!! Preach

[@juice07x]

Barkley was just doing his job. Barkley is great cause he’s honest and not always a fan boy like other athletes.

[@NoSpinster0909]

You still give your friends a heads up

[@mrShinglez]

Yeah if yo friend went on the internet and said hey I think juice a clown for not listening to me I just bought so and so made 7x the amount you wouldn’t feel betrayed 🤔

[@ssjalpha6593]

Yall gotta stop using "doing their job" as a shield. While its obviously an extreme example, Nazis were just doing their jobs. Don't make it right.

[@NoSpinster0909]

@@ssjalpha6593 and a very bad one

[@whatyousay9816]

@@NoSpinster0909 Absolutely!!! They were "boys" and what Barkley did was dead wrong!

[@dbsti3006]

Chuck is the friend Jordan should keep around. That friend might piss you off or offend you, but sometimes we all need the cold hard truth to improve ourselves.

[@tonth1383]

As a friend you can give him your opinion on how he's running his team in personal or over the phone, not on tnt when you supposed to be talking basketball.

[@Warrior04086]

Sometimes friendships like relationships run its course

[@rickimhotep1236]

💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@braviafeed]

I KNOW exactly what that feels like. Sometimes people are better apart. Sad but true.

[@flyguy7825]

Well, in this case it's not even about that. Charles has criticized Michael Jordan in public about his ownership and if you are a true friend to somebody, you don't do that

[@AnthonyJohnson-hl1ru]

Agree 💯👍👌😎

[@VENENOSEASON]

Jordan seems like a sensitive and petty guy.

[@klev1]

MJ pretty much proved the point Chuck was trying to make.

[@Al-Rob-ei1iu]

Exactly

[@jimmyconway6080]

Michael is the rare human being above criticism in most people’s eyes.

[@MarcusTheJR]

I agree. It's weird

[@TTJJCC]

@@MarcusTheJR Very weird

[@cameronlee2781]

In Jordan mania years he was Superman. Beyond iconic. The guy captivated the world.

[@Al-Rob-ei1iu]

Because he’s their God

[@cinesanti7]

@cameronlee2781 who gives a damn, he's still human, he is not immune to error, frailty, and sin

[@delonsmith8198]

Charles was doing his job, unless he said something that was revealed in a private conversation, MJ should respect him doing his job.

[@bigtastyforlife9367]

Charles Barkley has been proven correct, Michael's team has had miminal success.

[@daweeza42]

Lol him being correct about his opinion is so irrelevant. We all can say something about our friends and be correct, but if you go all the way in on your friend on national tv you have to accept the consequence of possibly not continuing that relationship.

[@flyguy7825]

Bro he took shots at his friend about how his friend goes about his business and runs his team. If you are a friend of somebody, you don't say that in public, what don't you get about that? I wouldn't want to be a friend of yours if you did that

[@Ekleaz]

And yet 10 years later crying about Michael. So he fugged up

[@MarcusTheJR]

@fly guy so because your somebody friend. You should lie to them, the Hornets are a terrible run team.

[@MarcusTheJR]

@DraGanix they both have a history of talking about each other. GO watch Oprah. They clearly talk to each other like that. And regardless if your friend tells you your bad at your job, your fix it, and stop with the public stuff, MJ IS A PUBLIC FIGURE. stop it

[@mraims2plez]

F that! Everybody says they want the truth until it's about them. Then they get pissy.

[@shanenolan085]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@dariusjones7006]

You can salley is a yes man. Jordan got sensitive over criticism that was legit

[@meladgoat]

i mean barkley himself admitted he was wrong but ok. it also sounds like lebrons career in a nutshell. ''sensitive over criticism that's legit''

[@Native5]

Absolutely

[@9614cp]

@@meladgoat He's just being humble about the situation, Mike is in his feelings. What you want Chuck to say? Mike is my friend, im not gonna do my job?

[@renardmartin5701]

Facts. Wallet a yes man an or he has yes man around him

[@MarcusTheJR]

@MELA-D GOAT lol what does Lebron got to do. With a terrible person like Jordan. Breaking up a friendship because your friends told the truth

[@TomTom-ux9fx]

Once I heard Sally’s take … I was out before Vlad made it about himself😂

[@tonyrobinson3151]

Lol hahaha

[@FernandoLopez-ei3hc]

No lie I fucking did the same as soon as he said him and akademiks was talking bout some shit lmaoooo

[@russsavage1611]

So you don't think Vlad and Ak are on the same level as MJ and Sir Charles?

[@injusticeberserker2800]

bro the whole video was about Vlad too smh lol

[@MC-kj7dy]

Vlad is a complete meathead

[@therichardgravesgroup4747]

Jordan is being petty, because what he said was true and good advice that Jordan should have taken.

[@akeemcarter9752]

Right I don’t understand how he got offended by that.

[@rickimhotep1236]

He should have said those things to Mike BEFORE putin it out for everyone else to hear. IF yall that good of friends Charles should have been told him that, bro, you doin something wrong with the team, maybe try something different.

[@maxmeier532]

@@rickimhotep1236 you bet your ass Chuck did say it to mj first but he didnt care.

[@joyell821]

Jordan is an asshole. I always hear bad things about him.

[@krogersucks45]

Jordan used to having yes men around him. When Charles spoke the truth Mikey boy couldn't handle it.

[@rexpinsel]

So you are in Michael Jordan's circle and you know him and his friends personally?

[@devilishfrost4795]

@@rexpinselbro think he tk

[@jaid2383]

@@devilishfrost4795 🤣

[@lamontewilliams3011]

See. That is where Chuck went wrong. That is an emotional bias statement devoid of proof, evidence or facts. You are a Jordan hater as was Charles and Jordan recognized that. A snake in the grass is not a true friend.

[@eib3137]

@@rexpinsel this is public knowledge mj don't want anybody that won't kiss his ass around. The dude is still mad at sports illustrated all these years later for reporting on his shitty baseball career. This is the same mj that told the media of they painted him in a negative light it would be a price to pay.

[@livinglifeonfull]

Charles Barkley is a sports analyst. If someone asks him a question about a team, a player or an organization he is supposed to give his honest opinion. That's his job. That's what I like about Charles he will always give an honest analysist. He was 100% correct on Michael Jordan as an NBA Owner. Michael has sucked as an owner of the Charlotte Hornets. Michael has owned the Hornets for 12 years and they have only been to the playoffs twice and lost. They have been barely over 500 three times in 12 years. They are horrific as a franchise under Jordan. When people asks Charles about Jordan as a player, he always says Jordan was the greatest. That's all Michael wants to hear is praises. Michael needs to wake up. He can not have it both ways. It is nothing he should be angry about because It is true. He sucks as an NBA owner and is no where near the success of the Bulls organization where he won all those championships as a player and I am a Michael Jordan fan.

[@xman9190]

Nobody really gives a damn about Charles' honest opinion. He's wrong most of the time anyway.. We just want him to be entertaining.

[@spearruler70]

How many organizations have won championships?

[@silewis9396]

Of course he's not as successful as the Bulls they haven't exactly been able to get Jordan level players while he's been owner. I can't think have many obvious players they missed on drafting other Booker. Mitchell, Giannis and Jokic ended up studs but hardly had a clue they'd become anything close to what they are

[@ssjalpha6593]

Yall gotta stop using "doing their job" as a shield. While its obviously an extreme example, Nazis were just doing their jobs. Don't make it right.

[@livinglifeonfull]

@@silewis9396 Remember how Michael used to criticize Jerry Reinsdorf and Jerry Krause? They had the right people in that organization to find and develop talent. Michael was not always the GOAT. He was developed into the GOAT. It took him 7 years to get to a finals. It's not as easy as he thought it would be. Like Charles Barkley said Michael has to surround himself with the best people and not his friends. He and his friends have missed on everyone, while teams like the Pelicans find the right talent and develop them.

[@JeffWarren47]

He took that personal.

[@deelewis8061]

Michael probably didn't view Charles the way Charles views Mike

[@daweeza42]

I disagree, just because MJ is on record saying how much he loves Chuck. Plus they spent hella time together since '84, but of course not the last 10 years.

[@flyguy7825]

No it's not even doubt that. But if you 'll friend takes shots at you in public about how you run your team and your organization, that's not good. You don't do that to friends. That's the problem Charles Barkley doesn't seem to get What if somebody who he considered a friend criticized him about how he does his day-to-day businesses. I can guarantee you Charles Barkley wouldn't like that a lot.

[@rucianapollard4057]

I've heard it said a few times that Jordan never had the level of friendship for Barkley as he had for Jordan. I can't remember where I heard this, but allegedly, during the 1993 NBA finals, Michael took Charles out golfing and even bought him a $20,000 earring! Jordan reportedly did that to lower Charles' level of competition. Jordan said, "what's $20,000 to me?!!? I hate that fat f**k!!

[@gotemcoach2346]

100% but Michael Jordan doesn't view any on earth to be a good close friend of his at all . Jordan said he'd never ask to meet or ever ask another human being for their autograph dead or Alive. Jordan literally thinks his shit don't stink. plus, he Divorced his strong black wife aka queen and mother to his seeds for a white/ Latina lady with becky good hair

[@daweeza42]

@@gotemcoach2346 Smh what I’m the world does his divorce have to do with anything. And you got a strong opinion about a man you don’t know at all. Why is your opinion so strong about someone you don’t know? The media really controls some of you all smh.

[@DJaySplitSecond]

John Salley is a great story teller

[@brianwilliams5114]

If ya dawg can’t tell u when u fucking up then he not your friend g shit

[@ezp8811]

He really is... and he tends to be extremely accurate from everything I've seen him speak on.

[@nonothing9685]

I'm pretty sure he just makes up random stories. No way does barkley say he was wrong.

[@icemanb4539]

Salley's comments are ALWAYS calculated and guarded, as if he is afraid to offend or betray or go out of bounds. Something Barkely does not do. Did Chuck not know he would piss off MJ?

[@ezp8811]

@@icemanb4539 Oh he definitely knew... he thought about it many times before he said it and still wanted to put it out there. I'm sure they had many phone calls prior as well as golf play. You would think that's the time to say "your team is struggling because you don't have the right basketball minds working for you". He knew it would upset MJ but thought he'd get over it in time. I'm leaning towards a cheap shot at MJ... and he's trying to play innocent by saying he's always going to tell the truth.

[@Tms2289]

Im a mike fan but charles job is to commentate and tell it like it is he did nothing wrong plus on oprah jordan went at him by telling him in front of the world he never won anything so how can jordan be sensitive all of a sudden especially with all the stories thats out there about his personality..

[@CharlesDarwinBarkley]

im a jordan fan but i dont worship him like a lot of people do.. it's crazy how he could do no wrong as a human being in the eyes of some people just because he was a great basketball player.

[@seanwallace2615]

John is such a great person and interviewer/interviewee. He totally respect people in general.

[@maddymud]

He should be on TNT instead of Shaq. Way way way better communicator and funnier

[@way2kool876]

This is why people are so soft I mean jordan probably have people around that tell him lies but when someone speaks the truth he 😢.. MJ still the 🐐

[@NXTURE824]

Jordan took that personal he straight called him 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@christopherstoecker151]

One of the things so many of us love about Chuck is that whether we agree or disagree with him we know he's giving his honest opinion. So he apologized for not being what most of us despise. That sounds about right on for how bass-ackwards we have things these days

[@theinsite2668]

I disagree. From what I remember he was giving an honest criticism of a friend.

[@lv4739]

"Honest criticism of a friend" is only done in private, if it is coming from a true friend....Not on public display for clout or brownie points..

[@mysterion5136]

No, Charles is only telling part of the story. His exact quote was that MJ had too many "yes men" around him. It is that quote that made MJ mad because it was insulting to his staff. Chuck wouldn't take it back, so MJ cut him off.

[@FuShengAlex]

@@mysterion5136 interestingly Larry Brown publicly echoed the same sentiments as Charles after he was shown the door by Jordan in Charlotte.

[@jaredgarrison333]

@@lv4739 he is on tv and the topic came up. Barkley said what everyone is thinking. Charles was being objective.

[@maxmeier532]

@@mysterion5136 MJ literally proved Charles right by cutting him out of his life for not being a Yes Man. funny how logic works and morons dont get it.

[@adrianprince7266]

I couldn't do someone I call my friend like Charles did Michael Jordan. Just putting myself in Jordan's shoes and taking the emotions out. Had my friend went on tv and dogged me out without at least a call beforehand than we're no longer friends. I like how Jordan called him afterwards instead of going on social media which many would've done. I see it all the time. Michael called him privately to disclose his displeasure. That's how it should be done.

[@predragnicic7138]

This is a pay back from Oprah

[@Independent365]

Charles did his job, period...MJs too emotional

[@predragnicic7138]

@@Independent365 lam little drunk to write what you say

[@daweeza42]

@@Independent365 So if one of your friends went on tv and spoke on you in a none positive light without giving you a heads up you would have no issues with it at all?

[@jp29allday]

I disagree with you 1000%. Barkley is an NBA analyst and his job is to critique EVERYBODY in the NBA. If Jordan can’t accept honest criticism from Barkley then they weren’t ever really friends anyway. A true friend is supposed to give you tough love when it’s necessary. Barkley wasn’t disrespecting him as a man, he was giving his honest opinion on his performance as a professional. And he was absolutely correct in his assessment. Jordan does everything from an egotistical standpoint and he got his little feelings hurt by hearing the truth and he’s not above criticism. The truth of the matter is that Jordan SUCKS as a GM. He sucked in Washington and he sucks in charlotte. He sucked so bad in Washington that Ab Poland fired him as the President/GM. Go back and look at ALL the draft picks that Jordan selected in his decades as the decision maker for both of those teams. If he wasn’t the owner of the Hornets, he would’ve been fired from there too. John Sally has been saying a lot of dumb sh¡t during the last few interview clips that have come out recently. As far as Iverson being a fanboy for Jordan, that sh¡t is corny. Jordan and iverson are contemporaries. Iverson’s friends were correct in telling him the truth about being him being fanboy. Give him the respect as a competitor but that’s it. All men meet on the level.

[@mikeanderson1940]

I like how Vlad will make opinions about celebrities like they’re his friends lol

[@qceaz11]

To Be Honest Mike Probably Wasn't Mad About The Comment Itself But More So The Fact That Chuck Should've Told Mike How He Felt Privately 1st

[@frankstudent]

Fair point

[@midwestking100]

Ding! 🎯🎯🎯

[@DuckDaPhillyFan]

Who said he didn’t tho?

[@MikeyzFoodieLair]

Nah. He doin his job.. if it's other athletes, no one complains.. but everyone expects to cater to Michael jordan.. like Michael jackson.. Michael Jordan was a terrible nba exec

[@maingod1709]

He doing his job

[@knw-seeker6836]

I read somewhere a quote which is really on point when it comes down to Charles Barkley “The one who is talking to much has very little time to think”

[@TTJJCC]

But, he wasn't lying. That's what people seem to ignore

[@_gamepoint_]

Cause he was so wrong about Jordan GMing and ownership skills. All those titles Charlotte has won.

[@dnice4145]

@Taquan Coleman he wasn't telling the truth either he was giving an opinion, learn the difference. Saying Jordan hired only "yes men" who were too afraid to criticize him is not a fact, going beyond that nonsensical reasoning to claiming that being the reason Jordan hadn't succeeded his first 2 years of ownership is also not a fact or the truth.

[@TTJJCC]

@@_gamepoint_ 🤣🤣🤣

[@TTJJCC]

@@dnice4145 Maybe he was hiring yes men. We don't know that for a fact. But we do know for a fact that Jordan is terrible at running a team. From the Wizards to the Bobcats/Hornets.

[@JRagMusic]

Chuck was telling the truth though. So I salute Charles for having the balls to keep it real and not just be a yes man cause it's Jordan...

[@flyguy7825]

Dude, you're missing the point. My point is is that you don't go on national television and say that in front of people that betrays not only a friend's trust but you are taking shots at a friend in public. How would you like it if one of your good homies started to say you're doing this and you're doing that wrong and your house ain't in order to the public?

[@MarcusTheJR]

@fly guy bruh. Charles was like that before MJ. Charles has been talking shit about people since he came in, but now since he talks about you. so you can laugh at everyone else, but they can't laugh at you. That's hypocrisy

[@lilsnoopp6268]

John salley cool asf, ive known dude to be a class clown in the locker room. Dude just brings joy fr

[@KITO1966]

In this case, I go with Charles Barkley. The guy's so honest he lost a friend. That's life.

[@Brooklyn94269]

It’s Barkley fault because he said Jordan is a bad owner , which he has thus far proven to be ? Jordan got people in a chokehold

[@ren17x50]

Don't you know Jordan is gold, he never fouled, traveled, he missed a few shots but he's gold man. Lol

[@freedommovementmusic]

John Salley wearing Leonard Nimoy’s 1985 work attire 🤣😂🤣

[@RogerBiwandu]

Protect your friends, protect your friendship, period.

[@DutchPhilly]

Nah that's dumb. I'm not protecting my friend if they murder someone

[@MeMyself-p5z]

How dumb can you be? That's the reason why I treat people like business partners.

[@Virtualcritic111]

john needs a show of his own again

[@WestcountyWill]

Please no.

[@jeffe9117]

Think you confusing him with arsenio hall

[@Virtualcritic111]

@@jeffe9117 he had a show called best damn sports show

[@rondadonjuan4102]

People that aren’t in that bad boy group chat are breaking their phones or tvs after finding out they aren’t in that chat😤

[@MichaelB1979]

Charles has nothing to be sorry for. 1) he's doing his job 2) people need friends to be real not a bunch of yes men

[@gaminglittleshit9198]

Real yes. But publicly, maybe not.

[@landismceachin6492]

I disagree with John Salley on this one. If anything, Jordan showed how much of a friend he wasn't to Charles by showing his inability to take constructive criticism and how much of a friend Charles was risking their friendship by being willing to speak truth. A real friend doesn't let a friendship dissolve for a decade because of one on-air comment. Jordan is the petty one for that, imo.

[@rolandbullock6444]

He is in media, you have to be honest! Jordan is too sensitive! Truth hurts....he is doing a terrible job.....never change Chuck!!

[@1990758]

Exactly he is my favorite outspoken NBA player of all time. I'm on the same way I'm going to criticize everybody.

[@jerrellwilson9896]

Im glad somebody said that.mj dished alot of bullshit 2 people but cant handle when somebody criticize him.dude a sensitive lil bitch but people always afraid 2 say it.

[@flyguy7825]

Okay, and then you're going to lose your friends because of it. How would you like it if your homies went on television criticizing every move you may or didn't make? That's not how friends do each other bro. What don't you get about that.

[@jerrellwilson9896]

@@flyguy7825 real friends tell u the truth and dont be your yes man.they been horrible and have 1 playoff victory not a series in 16yrs.he deserve all the criticism.

[@sdmurphy20]

@@jerrellwilson9896 apparently he's not interested in having real friends

[@thedolphe]

Well, I think he should have told him that in private because although he has increased the value of the team, he has ever so slightly brought in quality players. By now they should be more competitive.

[@master_baiter1873]

Nope. Never gonna happe. In that org. They the floor matts of the nba.

[@jonspencer1987]

He wasn’t suppose to be a friend in that situation! It’s like when you are starting up a business of any sort and your “Friend” wants a discount!! So am I not being a (Friend) because I didn’t give him the discount?? 1:38

[@coletraincyclist5979]

If u haven't talked to someone in 10 years YOU AREN'T MISSED

[@kaptoxic]

not true in many cases, actually

[@r.j.w7924]

Not true.

[@jigga115]

Charles was on a radio show here in Chicago and they asked how Mike was doing at the executive job in Charlotte n mind u this was after another bad pick...and he was just being honest and said Michael surrounds himself with yes men...

[@flyguy7825]

Then how about you do the friend thing and talk to him about that as a friend instead of running your damn mouth in public? That's what Charles don't get it. He thinks it's his job to overly criticize people including his friends in public and you lose a lot of respect for other people.

[@jigga115]

@fly guy but it wrks both ways Charles works in the media and part of his job is to answer basketball questions..

[@flyguy7825]

@@jigga115 So asking basketball questions means you got to criticize and throw your friend under the bus?

[@jigga115]

@fly guy how did he throw him under the bus by saying he was doing a bad gm job going back 2 his Washington days or sayn he had 2 get rid of the yes men around him...look im in Chicago a big Michael fan...I just think on this one he went overboard

[@9614cp]

@@flyguy7825 Same way Mike went on Oprah show and publicly bashed Chuck for his work ethic? Or when he told Pippen not to go to Rockets cause Charles doesn't work hard? FOH MJ stan... As it turns out Chuck spoke nothing but facts, Hornets probably have the least successful team in NBA history.

[@kareemabdulwahhab6919]

The issue with Charlotte is that unless they draft someone happy to stay in North Carolina? They’re not gonna be happy to stay in North Carolina. So they always do well enough to not suck, but still bad enough that it’s not worth going there. Like the years they had Kemba? They’d always be middle of the pack so you can’t get the highest draft picks.

[@flyguy7825]

We're not talking about that. We're talking about Charles Barkley not having a friendship with Michael Jordan and he said it himself. Is that he criticizes his quote" friend in public.

[@1990758]

Is excellent observation. You know your sport.

[@kareemabdulwahhab6919]

@@flyguy7825 He critiqued his management in Charlotte

[@flyguy7825]

@@kareemabdulwahhab6919 I don't care What he criticized he criticized a friend in public and that's not what you supposed to do if you're someone's friend.

[@HooodClassicsTV]

They got one of the biggest cash cows in Lamelo

[@bigemont]

It's truly a pleasure listening to John Salley interviews. He's not all pretentious and it doesn't feel like a speech or performance. His logic and common sense, are just very sound. It's somewhat ironic that Kanye West's name came up, in this interview, because he's kind of like the opposite of John Salley ? I think that at times Kanye is pretentious just for the sake of shock value and provocation. Kanye seems to get into a performance when he speaks to people. Good common sense and logic seems to elude Kanye at times ?

[@horse-4598]

They both pretentious

[@bradwatkins7564]

Barkley was absolutely correct at that time. Friends tell the truth even when it is unpleasant. If you only want people around you to only praise you then that's not a friend, that's a "Yes man."

[@suprememathematics9257]

Just don't tell that truth on national television in front of 100 million people tell them behind closed doors

[@bradwatkins7564]

@@suprememathematics9257 How does one sugarcoat the worst win percentage in NBA history? As an analyst you can't ignore that record. Worst in history.

[@Independent365]

Jordan is the GOAT, but dude is just as sensitive as all these new dudes...imagine losing a good friendship because your friend did his job and criticized your team, smh...

[@jaredgarrison333]

Clearly the two of them wernt great friends to begin with.

[@flyguy7825]

So you have been poisoned enough to believe that taking shots and overly criticizing a personal friend of yours on television is somehow doing your job. You got a lot to learn bro about life

[@jaredgarrison333]

@@flyguy7825 this is business. Jordan is not attempting to find the cure for brain cancer. He signs and trades players who are better at passing a basketball and putting a ball through a net. This is a kids game. And Jordan is horrible at putting together a roster that can compete. Barkley is paid to give his honest opinion on a kids game and that’s what he did.

[@DrD-ey6st]

Lepussys won't get it. Ask Lechina 🇨🇳

[@SonofSamhein]

LOVE Salley: always keeps it a MILLION, in whatever forum he happens to be in; and, he is also EXTREMELY Bright. It shows, flagrantly (IF, you are paying attention, to such)...

[@dangerzone9747]

Jordan and Barkley gotta fight. No choice.

[@ItBeFactsThou6669]

He can’t be that high to always have a napkin to wipe his eyes 🤧🤣

[@Sam-ji1fu]

a true friend wouldn't get so easily offended if a friend told you the truth. Genuineness and honestly are pillars of any real relationship.

[@YoManWhatIsThis]

chuck got over a 100 million now. he ain't too hurt about it.

[@CatsClaw44]

Charles wasn't wrong, Jordan is just thin skinned. These people who are friends with Jordan treat him like some kind of god. Charles doesn't operate like that and guys like Jordan and Salley showed who they really are by treating Jordan like a god. It was pathetic watching Salley brag "See he's saying that Jordan's right and he's wrong! See!" Jordan disrespects people all of the time and now he abd his sycophants can't handle. Barkley is better off not associating with Jordan or Jordan's friends.

[@thenemoshow1]

being a med student and i got mad love for john sally. esp cause I'm from Detroit. Vlad tell him to go get his liver checked out, he has yellowing in his eyes that I noticed. those are signs of jaundice and liver disease. have him get checked up if he hasn't already before its too late. all love

[@369pendulum]

There are plenty of people who have eyes like that & they're fine. I've dealt with liver failure & dealt with jaundice as a result, trust it looks far worse than John's eyes.

[@triplebeans4159]

You think he wouldn't have known that by now with the resources at his disposal?he's not a commoner you just bump in the street.

[@isharee3039]

He just told him to get it checked out. That’s it. He’s looking out for him. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@thenemoshow1]

@@369pendulum no eyes are normally not supposed to be yellow lol. If they had yellow eyes since a young age that’s usually a genetic enzyme mutation they’ve had since they were babies which eventually causes jaundice . In John’s sakes it’s better to get checked out before his liver damage is irreversible.

[@fabioken9837]

charles is doing job realtalk

[@flyguy7825]

No he's not doing his job. You don't talk bad in public about a friend you don't criticize your friend like that in public. He's done that to many, many other basketball players and they take it personal and they don't want to mess with Charles like that.

[@blackpanther1773]

@@flyguy7825 like how Michael Jordan telling in front of the world in Oprah's show that Charles cannot win championships. Difference between Chuck and MJ, Chuck can accept criticism, Jordan can't..

[@flyguy7825]

@@blackpanther1773 okay, I don't remember that but that's Michael Jordan saying that right in Charles Barkley's presence and Charles didn't take it personally. I mean didn't Charles Barkley take some shots at Michael Jordan from not being able to play golf in baseball. He's done that in the past. That's not the same as criticizing a good friend of yours about how he runs his business in about how he doesn't know what he's doing that is crossing the line as far as I'm concerned. How would you like it if one of your homies and one of your good friends did that to you?

[@ChrisBasdeo]

Barkley always speaks his mind, plus he's on TV to talk about basketball. Some people don't wanna hear the truth I mean he isn't wrong. The Hornets aren't that great of a team

[@siyonqoba4810]

Lord knows i've screwed up If my friend did too, and showed remorse, i'd forgive & forget....

[@rucianapollard4057]

Jordan doesn't seem like the type of guy who has many friends in the first place, because he thinks he's God!!

[@CatsClaw44]

@@rucianapollard4057 Exactly

[@MeMyself-p5z]

​@@rucianapollard4057I don't give a f about no damn Jordan. But most people are irrelevant anyways. No matter what good you do to them, they'll transform that into a negative thing.

[@TriplomatX]

It's like Jordan had this life for so long and you think the NBA Centered around him through links, network, and association. But it also seem like Jordan just wants to distance himself currently from any NBA business if not talking about his past greatness.

[@bezmoney]

I would rather a person be honest with me in a cordial conversation oppose to us getting in a argument and you telling me how you really feel.

[@garykeller6588]

So friends come and go why is it so important especially when the shit he said was true

[@stevenbras8917]

Does anyone have the video of what Charles actually said

[@KingJu42]

Did Barkley lie? If i have to be a yes man to be your friend are we really friends?

[@landlordnation]

Best advice ever, when people show you who they are BELIEVE THEM!

[@jefferykincey3907]

Charles was absolutely right!! Period!!

[@kofiashiboe-mensah686]

I totally agree with Sally. U gotta talk to ur friend first, then u can say I even spoke to him about this. Don’t blindside him

[@timatkinson9291]

It’s ironic that one’s success on the court doesn’t translate to success as an owner. Same way with Magic trying to coach. They are two different animals. I respect Charles for just being honest.

[@soyllpapi942]

Exactly! Goat on the court, off the court he's not even better than the waterboy :(

[@Ackshuallymmm]

Just like Charles won 0 rings?

[@reggiefurlow1]

It's called not liking each other

[@flyguy7825]

Because Charles Barkley loves to put out personal business and talk about people just to get attention and Michael Jordan ain't that type of dude. Every time Charles Barkley is on some type of talk show. He's always saying s*** that he knows he's not supposed to say but he says it anyways. That's why a lot of these players don't respect him or don't even like talking to him because he is very two-faced it. He'll say things on his show but don't have the heart to say it when you're on his show but not to their face.

[@1990758]

I am not a role model.

[@riverandforest765]

@@1990758who are you ? Charles Barkley himself?!?!?!?

[@1990758]

@riverandforest765 iam who ever you want me to be. What ever makes you happy. Think about it.

[@flyguy7825]

@@riverandforest765 what? So I have to be Charles Barkley in order to give my opinion on how the man is I mean all you have to do is listen to the man.

[@riverandforest765]

@@1990758 woah that’s deep ... not sure I’m ready for this 😮

[@noctis129]

John Salley is right. I like his answer.

[@heff434]

All these stories about how Michael Jordan treats people horribly and he gets upset with some light criticism

[@AnthonyJohnson-hl1ru]

MJ GREATEST OF All TIME 🏀🏀🏀🏀🏅😎💯

[@michaelwilliams6724]

Should have a conversation first, but he did tell the truth.

[@Independent365]

Not surprised at all. All you have to do is watch that Bulls documentary and see how Jordan used to get butthurt over the SLIGHTEST things...he takes things WAY to personal...

[@grovertheus5155]

A friend would tell you the truth

[@tonyrobinson3151]

There was no information needed, MJ track record showed at the time, it was one of the worst if not the worst at the time as being an owner.

[@wacokid30]

I don't think Charles was wrong at all he was being honest. Jordan is not a good owner at least when it comes to the track record of the Charlotte hornets. Just because Jordan is the best player of all time doesn't mean we can't be honest about his failures. Jordan just needs to grow up and be able to take criticism especially when it's accurate.

[@shanenolan085]

0:10 Barkley's fault?!?!?!?! 😂😂😂😂 John Salley is WEAK for that 💯💯😂😂 so he's supposed to LIE and say hes the best owner... yall Jordan fanboys are sad 💯😂😂

[@AFreshWordOrg]

The Detroit Pistons/Bad Boys private salute is “Hail Hydra!!!!” Lambeer kills a puppy at every meeting.

[@stephonhopkins4569]

Only issue I have with what John said was “when someone shows you are the first time, believe them” well Barkley show him that they were friends first so that’s unfair to only judge him based off his one time criticism of him. But who can tell either of them shit lol 🤷🏾‍♂️😂

[@daweeza42]

I get your point, but I think your point isn't on the same level. Yes MJ knows Charles and vice versa, but how in the world would MJ know CB would be so open about his opinion about Mike on national TV. On the other hand CB 100% knows if you cross MJ that's it. I imagine MJ would have been cool with some criticism because CB has a job to do, but CB went all the way in and like Salley said CB admitted he was wrong.

[@kewan2045]

@@daweeza42boom. You can be critical without being disrespectful

[@daweeza42]

@@kewan2045 All day completely agree with you!! What I don't understand is how/why so many others don't get that...maybe they do, but just like the energy of disrespect idk smh!

[@stephonhopkins4569]

Does every and their moms know that Charles Barkley speaks his mind? Lol just like you said about MJ and how he reacts. I never said he wasn’t wrong I only addressed salleys comment to start.

[@stephonhopkins4569]

@@kewan2045 which part was disrespectful to you that he said?

[@muskegontribune]

Hey, I never bought Jordan shoes because I am from Michigan and I was rolling with those Bad Boys from Detroit!!!

[@dextersfinest175]

Therein lies the problem with having former athletes doing pre-game and post-game shows. Having more journalists do analysis offers a more neutral point of view. They usually don't have feelings and friendships wrapped up with the players...

[@timfrancis9361]

Facts

[@jaahnnn]

But then you have guys like Brian windhorst talking when they really don't know the game and have basically zero credibility. Just fanboy talking

[@maxmeier532]

bitch please, there is plenty of "journalists" who werent pro athletes and they ALL SUCK. Stephen A, Skip and all the rest of those jokes talk out of their ass and dont know jackshit.

[@broncobilly4029]

Salley makes a good point. Charles should've spoken with Jordan first before he went off on him. On the other hand, it's been ten years. Jordan should accept Barkley's apology and move on.

[@marby.]

He was totally right about MJ, though. Dude was hiring all his friends like they knew how to run a team. Charles Oakley doesn't know shit about running a team lol. MJ needs guys. Soon after he stopped just employing friends and they actually made the playoffs a few times. He still needs to hire better execs, but at least they're not his golfing buddies

[@maxmeier532]

charlotte has been a shit organisation ever since even though they got the goat as their owner. all trades suck, all drafts suck. Ball is the first guy to be slightly promising and that's it. they paid white boy Gayward like a supermax AFTER that dude's leg broke in two like a twig. MJ is still a degenerate gambler. Look at the successful teams of the past 30 years, those werent gambling owners or gms or coaches. those were people with the ability to analyse, plan and execute.

[@b9479]

Exactly, and Charles Oakley should be working security, you can tell he's not too bright 😆😆😆

[@Wis_Dom]

Jordan haters be like, "Barkley talks crap, Jordan got mad, Jordan should get over it?" That doesn't make sense. You don't get to decide on what should trigger other people or not. That's arrogant and inconsiderate of you. We all have thick skin about some stuff and we all have a line. Maybe Barkley crossed the line with Jordan. It's already hard and RARE for Black people to be OWNERS. Barkley should have seen it that way.

[@trash-music7164]

I wish John had his own podcast Vlad be interrupting him in other interviews

[@tommy62z]

Well grounded dude. Easy to root for him.

[@JK-br1mu]

Charles wasn't wrong, Michael's too sensitive. You could give a friend the cold shoulder for a couple weeks maybe, if you're mad, not 10 years. The facts about the Hornets speak for themselves, they have never been in the Finals hunt since Mike took over.........one of Mike's character flaws.

[@ryanbeltran9413]

Barkley has always been great dude. Sucks he couldn’t win one ring but he still achieved so much in his career.

[@westcoasthype619]

I never understood why Charles is considered wrong for this he was doing his job I guess maybe he didn’t tell Jordan first before he told the world

[@whatyousay9816]

... and that's the point.

[@westcoasthype619]

@@whatyousay9816 yeah I guess when you talk to someone every day and you don’t bring it up in convo then turn around and tell the world it’s a little different. On the surface he is just doing his job and cool but when add the nuance to it makes total sense

[@JAWrightonline]

Love how Vlad totally dropped the ball and didn't ask John Salley, "Do you think Jordan has done a good or bad job running the Charlotte basketball team?" 🙄🙄🙄

[@dnice4145]

Imagine going on TV and accusing your friend of only hiring yes men who won't criticize him and being surprised that your friend would have an issue with you just "speaking the truth". Barkley talks too much, he can pretend and play dumb but he knows his comments went too far. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some resentment there of other people working closely with Jordan that motivated those comments.

[@9614cp]

And 10 years later Charles Barkley only spoke facts. Hornets are one of the worst run organizations in the entire league with little to no success, they can't even tank properly. Maybe Mike should have listened to him instead of his own ego and all his yes men.

[@dnice4145]

@R P he didn't only "speak facts", why do people keep mindlessly saying this. Saying that hornets have been unsuccessful in terms of wins and loses is a fact, that doesn't make everything else Barkley said correct or accurate.

[@9614cp]

@@dnice4145 Whatever helps you sleep at night MJ stan. He "talks too much" cause that's what he literally gets paid to do btw..."comments went to far" so MJ saying Barkley was never a winner and didn't work hard on Oprah is somehow better than Chuck saying MJ FACTUALLY had yes men around him?

[@BrotherlyLove12]

@@9614cp most teams in the league have little to no success but y’all only have this energy for the black team owner.

[@9614cp]

@@BrotherlyLove12 MJ don’t care about black people bruh, stop pandering to him, his attitude and viewpoints are just like every rich billionaire out there. Chuck is no different tbh. I don’t really care to defend any of these entitled folk. Just giving my opinion. And he’s about to sell the team so he’s clearly failed as an owner… 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@tmgco]

MJ is an extremely loyal person. Once you are his friend, it’s for life……unless you violate that loyalty. And Chuck knew this, but he went ahead and violated the loyalty. Chuck isn’t a journalist, he’s a talking head whose job is to make people laugh. Had he sidestepped the question about Jordan’s effectiveness as a team owner, nobody would’ve thought less of him. An example of Jordan’s loyalty: Buzz Petersen was Jordan’s roommate at North Carolina. Buzz hailed from an upper middle class background and came to NC with a huge wardrobe, with a couple dozen pairs of dress shoes. Jordan, meanwhile, had mostly gym shoes with a couple pairs of beat up dress shoes. Buzz and Jordan wore the same size shoes, and Jordan asked if he could wear Buzz’s shoes. Buzz said, ‘my shoes are your shoes’. When Jordan signed with the Bulls, and he would shop for dress shoes, he would hand a card to the shoe salesman, telling him to send the same model shoe that he had purchased to the address on the card. It was Buzz Petersons address. After around 25years of this, Buzz informed Jordan that this shoe gifting had to end, that he had hundreds of pairs in his basement and that his garage was now full. Jordan told Buzz, ‘it’ll stop when I die’.

[@otisyoungblood]

Mj was mad cause chuck was talking about they mutual friend MJ said I'm cool with you talking about me but not my coaching staff

[@CatsClaw44]

Jordan was butthurt about Barkley talking about him not his coaches.

[@otisyoungblood]

@@CatsClaw44 you obviously dont know the story look it up hommie ppl havr talked aboyt what really hapoened

[@iamLexxKelsey]

Shooot Jordan that mad over them Hornets 🤣 😂

[@BrklynBread]

But in Chucks defense. Jordan was a pretty trash exec and owner for the majority of the 2000s. Perhaps Charles could have not spoken about it so much. But that is the trap of the media cycle. Points are repeated over and over, day by day.

[@mra.4466]

“And that’s when I took it personal”

[@marcg5856]

Did Charles lie no hornets are and bad