@VladVexler when are you gonna apologise for being a Gorbachev apologist?
@Art-HАй бұрын
Thanks so much to Jonathan, Vlad and Jonathan. This video is engrossing, and really helped me understand the nuanced cultural and political landscape involved in this tragic war. Thanks for sharing your candid, eloquent and studied insight. Cheers Slava Ukraini!
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
👍👍👍
@nancyblair5922Ай бұрын
This is the best conversation, explanation of the divide between "western" ideology, and Russian ideology that I have heard to date. I watch all 3 of these guys separately, but this is brilliant! I am beginning to understand.
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@gogudelagaze1585Ай бұрын
Jonathan, I can't help but feel we're on the brink of something terrible, and most of us are blindly going towards the abyss. edit: Also I have to say, this has to be the dream team when it comes to deep analyses of the situation we are in.
@markb8468Ай бұрын
Word! Excellent discussion.
@mike4480Ай бұрын
Thanks Johnathan and co. for another great chat … 💙💛💙
@timotheusvanesch3959Ай бұрын
But we already were, for 2 decades by now? - Climate change is real and we're not doing anything meaningful about it, as a democracy. - Internet influence is real & completely unregulated. - I'm pretty sure there are a few other existential points I didn't mention here. Isn't this just the unfolding of absolute denialism?
@vanettevanhuyssteen5548Ай бұрын
Wow! I really enjoyed this conversation! 3 incredibly knowledgeable people who complement one another in vision of the situation in the USA as well as in Ukraïni and Russia. Vlad and Jonathan's knowledge and experience in and of Russia are particularly valuable, as is JP's probing thoughts on everything that touches on Ukraïni. Thank you so much.
@hammertoolzАй бұрын
Jonathan, Vlad and Jonathan... you guys could talk about anything and I'd listen for hours
@marijo1951Ай бұрын
Thank you to the three of you, and lovely to see Vlad twice this evening as I watched him with Professor Gerdes earlier. This was a very stimulating discussion, but I suspect it was recorded before Trump adopted Vance as his running mate. With him as VP, Trump is far less likely to come over to Ukraine's side in the way that JP suggested could happen with the right kind of flattering adviser.
@ATPGeoАй бұрын
It was recorded before. That said, even without Vance, it was a very low probability occurrence!
@ATPGeoАй бұрын
Cheers Jonathan, as ever.
@tomaszcodaszАй бұрын
I love Vlad Vexler political insights, he is not only genius but also thankfully on the side of good.
@vanettevanhuyssteen5548Ай бұрын
Yes, a marvellous man. Fortunately we do have people like him!
@drychafАй бұрын
Excellent discussion again. I've said it before, but this format, and your hosting Jonathan, seems to bring out the best in all your always high quality guests. One of the best channels on YT.
@DarkCriimesАй бұрын
Great conversation. Thank you gents 🇬🇧🇺🇦🫡
@chris8612Ай бұрын
Thanks Johnathan, Johnathan, and Vlad for the great discussion. I would love to see them back. There is a depth to their discussion, it's very illuminating.
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
👍👍👍
@mitchmazerolle3168Ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this panel discussion. Exploring these, not always easy to grasp, nuanced takes on the issues surrounding the conflict in Ukraine is always helpful. Thank-you for putting this content together.
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
👍👍👍
@_c_y_p_3Ай бұрын
It is a damn shame we can’t have leaders like these guys. Maybe it is two different types of human, with different inspirations and motivations. But that is WHY we should elect people who do not run for election. Ok I am just rambling. Three of my favorite people of these times.
@jamieallen3083Ай бұрын
Leaders do talk like this it's just not in front of the camera and they come up with their message and then they put it out but all the discussions are done in the background
@andersgrassman6583Ай бұрын
@@jamieallen3083 You are both partially right. Quite a few politicians do reason in much more intelligent ways than they communicate to the public. Sometimes public debate doesn't even mirror the actual reasons for taking stances. (Apart from the actual reasoning beeing to complicated to run in public, once in a while also national security is a consideration.) However, since politicians are elected as part of the public show, showmanship, and wanting to be part of that, also promotes a lot of people that aren't necessarily and primarily motivated by some idea of serving a common good.
@KirstinevadАй бұрын
I agree with both anders and jamie and the OG comment. People following lenghty conversations on politics outside election time, are a minority. Finding politics interesting al year around is not really mainstream. Danes watching "Deadline" or Lippert every time is a small minority. UK was ready for Keir Starmer this time only after trying out Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Liz Truss. We have the politicians we deserve, and we really need to engage in dialog with each other and the politicians. Watching news from a genuine newschannel (sorry Fox) is necessary for making an informed decision.
@user-bf7bj5in3sАй бұрын
so , all vote for trump ?
@treesetc3305Ай бұрын
Excellent conversation. 🇺🇦
@timotheusvanesch3959Ай бұрын
Thanks for this one! 3 of my favourite thinkers in 1 screen! 💔💙💛
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@catherineandpaulfuters2523Ай бұрын
Great conversation thank you all for your coverage and insights 🇪🇺🇺🇦🏴🇺🇦🏴🇺🇦🇬🇧
@TKMcCloneАй бұрын
These multi-guest conversation segments are a great addition to the interviews! It might be interesting to bring together some Ukrainian journalists to discuss the fight against Russian propaganda narratives.
@vanettevanhuyssteen5548Ай бұрын
I agree. And what about Starsky, who's an expert on Russian propaganda...?
@TKMcCloneАй бұрын
@@vanettevanhuyssteen5548 I was think more from the perspective of someone who writes for media. I imagine it's frustrating to be on the ground, at home, in Ukraine and see what gets published in western media. The early peace deal, Nova Kakhovka Dam, Nuclear escalation threats and even Bucha are all documented events supported by objective truth, yet there is still misleading beliefs circulating in the west. This is due to bias or lazy, shoddy journalism. Starsky is always great though.
@vanettevanhuyssteen5548Ай бұрын
@@TKMcClone You have a very good point there. I was simply thinking of people for Jonathan to interview - people with knowledge and insight as well as experience of what is happening in Ukraïni.
@Ecomorph1Ай бұрын
Thanks to all 3 of you . Great discussions
@uribenshАй бұрын
Best gust, thanks you all
@user-ue3qf2vd7lАй бұрын
Don't forget Ukraine supplied 40 per cent of GDP for the Soviet Union and Putin wants it back
@18_rabbitАй бұрын
sorta, but not really: That was long ago before Ru was the gas station to earth, thus fat happy for the elite. Ukr was far far more integrated economicaly to RU back then. Food/agriculture was a big part of it.
@vanettevanhuyssteen5548Ай бұрын
@@18_rabbit Very valid point.
@macromicromusicАй бұрын
Thank you all - I would definitely watch more of your conversations
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
More to come!
@sovereignukraineАй бұрын
More discutions like this please. It is great to have ideas and insights bounced off each other. Gives more insight and balance.
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
👍👍👍
@andyreznickАй бұрын
Thank you, gentlemen.
@markendicott6874Ай бұрын
Excellent panel and great discussion.
@neilclay5835Ай бұрын
Brilliant, as ever.
@jdnthecanadian424Ай бұрын
I agree with the transnational nature of Trump. Good talk. I have heard it said; he thinks of NATO as an International Golf Country Club, where you pay your dues or you get kicked out, reprimanded or stifled from membership perks. He has very little sense of alliances, long term partnership, American/NATO foreign policy... heck, he has no indepth knowledge of any global history in it's most basic. He IS business. to him rules, laws, and norms are made to be pushed and lobbied against, not to enforce, evolve and expand/contract and help.
@youtubewatcher2Ай бұрын
He contributes to a lowering of public understanding by implying it is contributions to a common NATO budget. It is a 2014 agreement (Timing ring any bells?) to commit 3% of national budgets to defense appropriations by 2024. During Trump's presidency only 8 members had already achieved that target, true, but no one was remiss in their dues or failing to participate in exercises. etc. Whether it is general tarifs (which he pretends are financed by foreign companies rather than US consumers) or state vs federal issues his "contribution" to public discourse is to promote confusion and oversimplification. This is the most damning part of his legacy for US residents.
@DarkCriimesАй бұрын
@@youtubewatcher2well said 👍
@timotheusvanesch3959Ай бұрын
@@youtubewatcher2 Correction: The text said "2% within a decade". 2024 was not mentioned and 3% for sure not.
@youtubewatcher2Ай бұрын
@@timotheusvanesch3959 you are correct. It is 2% of GDP. Excuse the brain fart. Simple math tells you within a decade means by 2024. There was an annual review this year at which it was determined 23 members had met the goal. The original taget was set in 2006 but the idea of a timeline and annual reviews was decided in 2014 in direct connection with the annexation of Crimea.
@fridrekr7510Ай бұрын
@@youtubewatcher2 That fixed “2% of GDP” also completed neglected that some countries had certain strategic advantages or were very willing to be at the sharp end of operations, instead of just haphazardly spending money. Besides, all the frontline states already spends huge amounts on their military, but they get lumped together with the few rearline freeriders when they bash on “Europe” (i.e. a lot of sovereign nations that can’t be viewed as a monolith) as being unwilling to pay for their own security. It’s just another example of the oversimplification, division, and blame that characterises the Trump campaign, where he misleads ignorant Americans to think that they are the most important people in the world that pays for the rest while getting nothing in return. From an outside perspective, it’s so weird to see how they’ll likely elect someone with a campaign of undermining the whole American global dominance built on alliances. It only becomes even more laughable when said campaign is labelled “make America great again”. I can only assume that they believe the time where USA was an insignificant backwater of fur trappers and cotton farmers was their golden age, because that’s what they’re aiming for.
@martinelzen5127Ай бұрын
Thanks SC and Vlad and JP!
@thedukeofdukersАй бұрын
Great combination of guests!
@richardbennett8522Ай бұрын
Cheers for a great conversation
@SteveOhw594Ай бұрын
I'd like to see a panel with these guys, Ben Hodges, Timothy Snyder, Jake Sullivan and Kirby!
@18_rabbitАй бұрын
THAT would be something to behold.. my oh my! lol
@timotheusvanesch3959Ай бұрын
7 on a panel is a lot of people! Wouldn't it be wiser to have these 3 + Hodges & Snyder record a 2h conversation and show it to Sullivan & Kirby (an obligatory watch)?
@DiossvkАй бұрын
Excellent interview. Thank you, gentlemen.
@ninemoonplanetАй бұрын
The two men are transactional, but there's a lot of different ideas between them. One is far more worried about how he appears, the other is worried about his position, power and his own history. Neither are beneficial to their own people, the people simply don't matter.
@markb8468Ай бұрын
What a great discussion, gentlemen. Thank you.
@MordorsMadnessАй бұрын
Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava 💙 💛 🇬🇧great channel Jonathan
@IraniteАй бұрын
I am so glad you having Vlad over on your channel!
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
👍👍👍
@sunflower-tzАй бұрын
Very enlightening talk, thank you Jonathan, JP & Vlad.
@markusleboschka6878Ай бұрын
Hi, nice to hear you three together.
@rofferuff489Ай бұрын
@SiliconCurtain Thanks a lot for a marvelous collection of YT'ers :) Great discussions and great panel. More of this.
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
👍👍👍
@mediastudiesnetworkАй бұрын
Colllllaaaaab! My favorite Russian culture intellectuals :)
@o_______opanasovychАй бұрын
Vlad Vexler have seen Portnykov Vitality statesmantes 💯 percent. Our exelent and briliantly clever political analitic and journalist. Thank you.
@hrvojesvetec3058Ай бұрын
Great episode👍ty both Jonathans and Vlad,very intresting..ty for the education,learned a lot👍🙏take care guys and keep up the great work..support Ukraine🇺🇦👍👍
@thomasobrien5997Ай бұрын
Super 👏👏
@benteknudsen3248Ай бұрын
I so enjoy listening to your conversations
@asfafasdad384Ай бұрын
One of conditions to win is to know yourself and to know your enemy. Good show
@timmommens901Ай бұрын
Nice Vlad and JP Almost missed this one. 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦✌🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
👍👍👍
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
First time they’ve appeared on the same video!
@cyncyn747Ай бұрын
AWESOME… was looking fwd to this episode!!! Three great thinkers - should be great and I am certain that lunacy, expression of values in terms of depolarization will enlighten minds to define tribal modalities of our present conflicting discourse.
@daiakuninАй бұрын
Fantastic discussion!
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@elkudos6262Ай бұрын
Oh, those three are all Brits. Now that’s a BBC production I would watch.
@sherrillwhately7586Ай бұрын
Oh goody! Two of my favorites. Vlad Vexler is the reason I found both Silicon Curtain and A Tippling Philosopher aka ATP Geopolitics.
@djparn007Ай бұрын
Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
@DarkestAliceАй бұрын
Thank you, Jonathan, for inviting Vlad and Jonathan Pearce to Silicon Bites. It was a good conversation and I hope to see another round. Unfortunately, the (U.S.) "traditional" and mainstream media are not doing a very good job or have deteriorated into partisan "reporting" if not propaganda. The imbalance between all the attention one side gets due to noise making is nauseating. I can partly understand why people rather turn to their comfortable info bubbles instead of following "the news". Including myself, tuning in to my favorite channels, though I try hard to watch "the other side", too. My only hope is that it will be in the self-interest of all U.S. and European politicians to support Ukraine. I count on the U.S. military-industrial complex to explain it to the former, and on the brains of the latter looking for European security. 🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦
@agustinussiahaan6669Ай бұрын
Clear and interesting discussion.
@user-kk8xs5en2xАй бұрын
Vlad is so good, I love him :)
@danlikovАй бұрын
quite valuable threelogue
@max.fleming1045Ай бұрын
Riveting conversation & very informative, thanks to all three of you !. I feel like I'm struggling with truly understanding anything in the cultural social body politics any & everywhere in the world ?. I was born and raised in America but I left there 29 years ago so I no longer connect with America in any meaningful way. I've lived in Britain for the past 24 years and mostly feel British not to mention I'm only first generation as my father was born & raised in Glasgow. I grew up with very strong ties to Britain. Even though I was born & raised in America I'm struggling to understand what is happening there culturally and politically?. I don't understand this bizarre devotion to trump?. His vanity is off the charts, he's a racist, misogynistic convicted rapist & fellon. I find it easier to understand how a majority Russians support Putin than I do why so many Americans support trump ?. I feel like I'm living in a bad dream I desperately need to wake up from!. PS, Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦.
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
It’s a terrifying reality we’re living through…
@gogudelagaze1585Ай бұрын
Also, regarding the free press - there's an incredibly insightful article by Peter Baker back in 2013 called "The Seduction of George Bush" in which he recounts an instance that clearly shows that not even Putin himself understands the concept of a free press. And I would argue it also shows that there were clear signs to anyone willing to see them even during Bush's second mandate.
@WalterBurtonАй бұрын
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@arek7198Ай бұрын
Very good material thank you very much for your information.
@MrBendylawАй бұрын
And this is one of the things that has bugged me about Vlad's takes: he has always said that Russia did not necessarily support Trump in 2016, when there is quite a bit of evidence that they were all in on him from the beginning, what with Manafort, and the revelation that Trump was looking to build a 'Trump Tower' in Russia (which both sides hid), to the 'Alfa Bank' server in Trump Tower which has never been adequately explained, or Eric Trump's statement about "a lot of our funding comes out of Russia". I find the notion that the Kremlin was at any point even lukewarm about Trump silly, and for someone like Vlad who has preached the gospel of Russia's use of 'destabilizing propaganda', to brush aside the possibility that Trump was at any point not 'useful idiot #1' absolutely ridiculous. Of course they did. It's very strange to me.
@lsees5753Ай бұрын
Do you have a book I can read or podcast of your own? You’ve made a real point!
@MrBendylawАй бұрын
@@lsees5753Sure, google 'Mueller report pdf'...that'd be a good start.
@davincidreams832Ай бұрын
Agree 100%
@josefk332Ай бұрын
Trying to understand your logic. Why would the Kremlin be supporting Trump because he wanted to build a Trump Tower in Moscow? I don’t know about the Alfa Bank server or Eric Trump’s statement. Vlad said that Russia would quite happily have taken a Trump win but they didn’t realistically think he would win so they were primarily aiming for a ‘weakened Hillary’.
@timotheusvanesch3959Ай бұрын
I think what Vlad means, is that they were not really serious about him. Much like nobody really was. The ruZZian idea is 'bigger', in a sense: To destabilise democracies, you need to weaken their strong movements and support their weak movements, until they even out. That's when you reverse course. Confusion is more important than picking 1 side. Them supporting Trump was real, but from what I understand from Vlad is that they not so much were supporting Trump to become the president (which was a nice, but no primary objective), more to sow só much discourse that nobody would trust Clinton anymore. And Trump was their useful idiot in that. I think the latter was their main goal. At least, that's how I 'read' Vlad's opinion. That they succeeded well beyond their wildest dreams is another story, of course.
@indigenousnorwegianeuropa4145Ай бұрын
Since the United States’ founding, four sitting presidents have been assassinated: Abraham Lincoln in 1865, James A. Garfield in 1881, William McKinley in 1901 and, most recently, John F. Kennedy in 1963. But many other presidents have survived assassination attempts - most recently former President Donald Trump, who was shot in the ear at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania on July 13, 2024, while campaigning for a second term in the White House. Countless presidential assassinations have been prevented through the work of the federal government and Secret Service agents, but every so often somebody slips through the cracks. While making a speech in the country of Georgia on May 10, 2005, a hand grenade was thrown at then-President George W. Bush, landing just 61 feet from where the he, first lady Laura Bush, the Georgian president, the Georgian first lady and other officials sat. In 2008, Bush was again almost attacked - this time by a man who threw a shoe at him during a joint press conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in Baghdad. In a now-infamous moment, Bush ducked and the shoe missed him, ultimately hitting a flag behind the then-president. Newly inaugurated President Ronald Reagan was leaving a speech at Washington, D.C.'s Hilton Hotel and walking to his motorcade on March 30, 1981, when John Warnock Hinckley Jr. fired six bullets out of a revolver. Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme - a member of the Manson family cult led by Charles Manson - tried to shoot President Gerald Ford in front of the California State Capitol in Sacramento on Sept. 5, 1975. Fromme had four cartridges in her pistol's magazine but none in the firing chamber, so the gun did not fire. Two weeks later in San Francisco, Sara Jane Moore - a former FBI informant who had previously been evaluated by the Secret Service - fired a revolver from 40 feet away of Ford and missed the president just narrowly, after bystanders intervened. Seventeen days before his first inauguration, President-elect Franklin D. Roosevelt was nearly shot when Giuseppe Zangara fired five shots at him during a trip to deliver a speech in Miami. The shots all missed FDR, but fatally wounded the mayor of Chicago as well as four other people. Ex-President Theodore Roosevelt - who had decided to seek a third term in office after sitting out of the White House for four years - was on his way to deliver a campaign speech at the Milwaukee Auditorium on Oct. 14, 1912, when he was struck by a bullet. But wearing a stiff overcoat and with his speech folded and nestled in his chest pocket, Roosevelt determined that the bullet hadn't penetrated his lungs, but had been stopped somewhat by the speech itself.
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
A terrifying history of political violence!
@DonovanwashereАй бұрын
🇺🇦🇺🇸🇺🇦🇺🇸
@terryhandАй бұрын
Apparently the algorithm doesn't like one word responses but... wow!
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
👍
@henriikkak2091Ай бұрын
Lots of thoughts but YT doesn't allow me to express half of them, so let me just say thank you.
@polodhtip6061Ай бұрын
biden just has public speech confused moments, but cognitivly he is fine really when listening to him speaking in interviews and speeches, and his values and standarts are way better than trump of course; i feel vlad is overdoing it on biden's cognitive topic. Of course a younger fitter democrat would look better, but with his experience and moral, biden is the best opponent to face trump this time
@gregc8567Ай бұрын
This was not a serious attempt. This was not a staged event or result from some conspiracy. This was a misguided young man, clearly incapable of making this shot (from a prone position at less than 200m), a registered Republican, and an American who exercised his right to legally own a firearm who made this tragic decision. The fact that people chanted USA after I found very ironic.
@youtubewatcher2Ай бұрын
a bit sickening as well as the identification level in the cult as Trump=Patriotism is a scary thing.
@lsees5753Ай бұрын
I know, clear proof that $$$ can buy a seat on the bleachers, but not Unpickle brains.
@fridrekr7510Ай бұрын
Yet the Trumpers will seriously propose that this was a Democrat plan, as if the supposed “deep state” couldn’t do a better job if they really wanted.
@vonriesАй бұрын
I hated Biden coming into this election, and had voted for Trump in both previous elections. However after January 6, I would never support him again. I had planned on sitting this one out originally. However as the tiny amount that does come out about Trump's legal troubles I'm sickened. However not much is filtering through the media. Why is it so hard to find out anything on his other trials. You would think Biden would be putting in former aids and advisors to say why those Republicans won't support him. They would speak more to American voters than Democrats. I was surprised to find out he wants to tax corporations (Elon Musk Fortune) and give a tax break to the middle class instead of the rich. He is also pro-union (Elon is pissed). You would think that would play well in the rust belt. Now I'm planning on voting, but voting for Biden. To be honest I suspect Trump was compromised when he was in Russia as the beauty contest judge. How many times was he alone with Russian officials? How many times has he met with Russians outside of his official role as president? Does Russia have dirt on trump? Did Russia film a snuff film without Trump realizing he was the star, highly doubtful, but who knows what he did do that now make he owe Putin so much. He's far from the only person who should be under investigation. Have you seen the KZbin video: "Trump-Russia whiteboard #2 convergence or coincidence?"
@martavdz4972Ай бұрын
Not sure if that isn't too much of a consipracy theory, but my thoughts have strayed that way, too. What does the Kremlin have on Trump?
@lsees5753Ай бұрын
@@martavdz4972 it’s transactional. They’ll make Trump a little czar, give him a robe and scepter and more gold bars than he ever dreamed. Then they’ll vacuum everything out of the US as they’re trying to do in Africa.
@user-gr9od1uo4mАй бұрын
The meidastouch KZbin channel covers all the Trump legal cases .
@DarkCriimesАй бұрын
Yep. Putin has dirt on Trump. Or Trump could be genuinely that stupid.
@18_rabbitАй бұрын
if u or anyone wants details on all of DJT's cases, several phenomenal sources: LegalAF, Rangappa (has paid substack), and Jay Kuo i think he talks fair bit about all the cases. These are some of the best legal minds in the country ,and LegalAF has guests on regularly who are sheer brilliance personafied.
@user-ue3qf2vd7lАй бұрын
God has a lot to answer for.
@nadenekАй бұрын
I'm not sure where Vlad gets off diagnosing President Biden unless he is an MD and I am not aware. I chalk up his short falls mostly to his stutter after watching a podcast with 30 years of experience speech pathologist (Michelle Williams on The Five 8) thorough explanation on that matter. I have 100% faith in his wisdom and experience gained during his political career. Anyone who thinks they know more than him on the world's current situation is deluding themselves.
@davincidreams832Ай бұрын
Biden has ALWAYS been a gaff machine and awkward public speaker. I judge him by his actions. So in this contest he is an easy choice over a russian asset
@piseag458Ай бұрын
History is written by the victors..this was great thanks gentlemen, loved the description of the Putin like Smaug,there's definitely something of the reptile about him.
@timotheusvanesch3959Ай бұрын
Luckily democracy allows for hindsight research, so the victors can be placed into context...
@piseag458Ай бұрын
@timotheusvanesch3959 true,although Putin is revising Russian history to suit his own ends ,Ukraine being part of that. I'm reminded of 1984 Orwell-'who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past'.
@timotheusvanesch3959Ай бұрын
@@piseag458 We know. So, in 20 years from now we have to re-revise his fantasy story.
@Bikeaddict4235Ай бұрын
I’m sure I heard Trump shouting “ but you were supposed to miss “ And the gunman shouted “ you were supposed to stand still “ 😂
@NathansHVACАй бұрын
Fake like the left promises
@Brian-bw3uuАй бұрын
Yes. More of these 😊 Random commentary. At one point one of you was talking about this fusion of the leader and the identity of the nation and how alien that was to us, which it is to a large degree, but alas if you've been watching the RNC the last couple nights, it's apparently not alien to some of us 😳
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
Good point… 😒
@robertthornton5106Ай бұрын
I value Jonathan's perspective but he does often seem to think that Russians stoking the cultural splits means them only acting on people who hold the opposite views to him. Rather than recognising that they target both sides His Partisanship sadly limits his effectiveness. Vlad seems better able to address things from a somewhat removed perspective despite holding clear personal leanings of his own.
@lomotil3370Ай бұрын
💯
@roylidstone3678Ай бұрын
AI ? 😂😂
@robertthornton5106Ай бұрын
@@roylidstone3678 wut?
@robertthornton5106Ай бұрын
@@roylidstone3678 oh, are you asking if i used AI to write that? No. I just slip into that format when i'm trying to be balanced and/or addressing serious matters,
@timotheusvanesch3959Ай бұрын
I think the point can be made that ruZZia targets áll sides, but currently are most effective on what we call the conservative right & beyond (ultra-right, maga, etc.). The radical left has been largely eradicated, over the past 40 years. From a simplified view largely due to neo-liberalism. Free market leaves little space for radical leftist thinking. There still are a few, but they have hardly any voice in the public sphere. So, there is not too much "both sides" left here, to influence. You can try to influence the center, but there's a problem with that: centrist thinking means you have to balance ideas. At which point ruZZian influence becomes "just another viewpoint". ps. I view AOC as "center-left". In Europe we'd call her a social democrat. Which is just "leaning left from center". Nudging your ideas towards socialist ideas like unions, climate change preventions and tax breaks for the middle and lower class and such. Nothing radical about that, so hard to influence by ruZZia.
@docbogus6128Ай бұрын
Just see Trump on Taiwan today, saying that 'they have to pay, because they give us nothing'!
@PDXDrumrАй бұрын
I hope allies will assist if the US goes down, and we have to reboot.
@mikehunt6218Ай бұрын
I used to be a trump supporter but I'm no longer because of Ukraine specifically, I realize the importance and it's a one issue election for me.... 🇺🇦🇺🇸
@terrymeikle195Ай бұрын
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@elkudos6262Ай бұрын
Russia is not a welfare state. The meagre services the state hospitals offer don’t result in much health.
@asynchronicityАй бұрын
Not allowed to post: “Let’s magnify this event far beyond what it really was.🤦♂️” Why? What’s the violation??
@candidbowyer4625Ай бұрын
I'm not allowed to post either
@candidbowyer4625Ай бұрын
What I tried to say was the real threat to democracy is when people tell us we have to change our democracy, & suppressing votes etc.
@asynchronicityАй бұрын
@@candidbowyer4625 Good point✌️
@DudokXАй бұрын
Probably some kind of automoderator bs. The bots youtube uses sometimes tag the most random things.
@asynchronicityАй бұрын
@@DudokX Definitely. AI at its finest.
@Gooddeeds023Ай бұрын
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@bron-sconcess.10Ай бұрын
The conversation came across to me as great speculation. There are many in the UK uninvolved, but for those who are, it's muscular in kneading the dough of an almost dry reality. Government hasn't been doing this job, thankfully you are!
@paullitzbarski2632Ай бұрын
Jonathan MS Pearce said, that he interviewed Sean Penn(a) on his channel, but I can't find the interview. Is it the actor Sean Penn or did I misunderstood the name? He said Sean Penna instead of Sean Penn. And Sean Penn didn't write a book about Ukraine.
@millrace32Ай бұрын
i think aaron maté provides a pretty good route into how to view russian interference. if you look at the cast of characters around maté, you can see how russia supplies many of the building blocks that have contributed to their success, including content, platforms, supporters, algorithmic positioning, financial benefits, contacts, etc... everything anyone needs to embed themselves into an audience. western security services likely do the same covertly for those they deem to be acting in their interests, which i would expect to backfire more than it has already once ai further trivializes the process of filtering past commentary
@jeffree9015Ай бұрын
Far too early for anyone to be pating attention to US election polls.
@C0sm1C2uАй бұрын
I appreciate your "eye" for the right ingredients for a good "stew". I value always to see the same things in different ways. And I adore always to be challenged by new ideas of things considered old. I pray we globally understand the successes and great mistakes of our collective history. We are in fact all of 1 race. Human. The only real question , what does that mean for us. Will we be a rung on the ladder of evolution? Or will we evolve?
@MCSonixxАй бұрын
Thanks for the Work 🎉🎉💪the Video Quality could be a bit better Voice is not Syncrone with Video
@asynchronicityАй бұрын
Not allowed to post: “Easy access to military style weapons makes it easy for a kid to do something like this.” Why?? What is the violation???
@michaelcarter5049Ай бұрын
I got a very mild post deleted too. It was in response to a expressed view that was in some way just poloticing when he stood in full view to display he was still to support his voters. I saw it was an example of extreme bravery. I am not a us voter. I feel that these expert cannot read the man. Just look at his facial expression, his eyes and tone of voice when he speaks. I do not believe that he would not defund ukraine.
@asynchronicityАй бұрын
@@michaelcarter5049 All utter nonsense.
@timotheusvanesch3959Ай бұрын
@@michaelcarter5049 Hard to follow what you're trying to say here. Are you talking about Trump? Or Biden? Your double denial is indeed what we all see, if I understand you correctly: Trump will defund Ukraine, in the unlikely event that he would get re-elected. Even JD Vance is a staunch opponent of Ukraine aid. So, if you tried to say that you do not believe that he would do that: Believe it. Ukraine will keep fighting, but without military aid from the USA it will become a much harder fight.
@hardwarefulАй бұрын
It's funny that we're all wearing headphones yet now end up with this hilariously bad audio quality. It definitely subtracts from the overall enjoyment and feels unprofessional.
@ecomandurban7183Ай бұрын
🤗🤗🤗🤗🧡🧡
@zuzanakralova3802Ай бұрын
I wonder what's Biden administration's expertise to get the things Vlad and Jonathan said into consideration.
@ekesandras1481Ай бұрын
When Putin starts lecturing Trump about fake Russian history, like he did with Tucker Carlson, Trump will get bored very fast and when the lecture takes more than five minutes, he will get from bored to angry.
@18_rabbitАй бұрын
not really bcuz that can never happen: Pu-Tin doesn't drone on directly to the likes of DJT, he only does that for domestic audience. Nothing as superficial and deeply disturbingly contrived as this new russian pseudo-intellectual historicism/whatnot. Scary as fk all, and then some. I want to hear much much more and also read anything Vlad Vexler has put out. I am both fascinated but also needing to know actually.
@markheithausАй бұрын
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@tomasinacovell4293Ай бұрын
You do of course mean Antidemocracacy Under Fire, or Fascism Under Fire, do you not?
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
I worded the title, so people could draw their own conclusions 😼
@NathansHVACАй бұрын
But dark brandon was very popular
@davincidreams832Ай бұрын
Why does Vlad think Trump is highly likely to win?
@18_rabbitАй бұрын
perhaps bcuz here in the US over the past couple months or more the numbers have been getting really not good in purple states, ie swing-ish states that were previously thought to be pretty sure-things for Biden. I dunno exactly but i trust those governors plus the few important Dems sounding the alarm. Also Biden's classic Biden style and old fashioned style american response to qn of what he would he think if he lost and he said he'd know he gave it his best: that is NOT the appropriate response to what is literally THE only consequential election really in american history tbph--!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love him in ways but he is really bad in dialogues or speaking always has been ie uber awkward and usually giving too much info in fact in saying particular things like he did 2.5 yrs ago ahead of the Ru invasion. I do NOT really know if his chances vs another potential candidate's chances are better, and we need to know: we can know by spending a million dollars on polling of 2K ppl in only those purple states, but no one is doing that! Really asleep at the wheel of civilization's preservaton itself! FFS! If u r a non american or an american, please tell your reps/sentators, friends to push for such a poll, so ratinoal decision can be made asap or at the convention!!!!!!!!!!! This is a slow rolling coup over the past two years, by ultra rightwing folks in the US who have a TON of power now, partly via both active and passive threats, including stochastic violent threats. We are NOT accustomed to this and never had to deal with it before, not even really in the late '60's apparently. I'm a student of this exact topic in my life long hunt to understand my society. I"m well over 50 y.o. Please do your part in saving this country. It reeeally is gonna matter, bcuz literally the forces of abject amoral sadism of a nihilistic psychopathic nature, have clearly shown their heads in Ru, and China is now fully backing them, so this 'slow roll' of jackboot-ism is jarring so many folks of good-will, worldwide.!
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
A lot of people do, actually. Remember, he already did win in 2016
@kyrill007Ай бұрын
It is interesting that JP doesn't understand Vlad's point about Russians outsourcing politics to Putin. No, there is no substantial justification loop that JP is trying to postulate at minute 50. It is literally that they don't care and try not to think about it *at all*. The thinking is, "It is not my business". There is something profoundly wrong with saying that Russians see Putin as a god - there is no reverence there at all.
@timotheusvanesch3959Ай бұрын
I don't think he said they see Putin as a god; he compared it to religion, where Deity is Allmighty and therefore knows best. It's the same delusion that so often leads to cruelty: it is not the malicious people that burn the world down; it's the ones that simply don't care. We have plenty of examples of malicious leaders. And they all used their population to do the dirty work. For that, you need to demonise & dehumanise "enemies". Like calling them "vermin". With that example: Trump will never throw "illegal immigrants" in camps. He will let "his people" do it. Coming back to Putin: He's not their god, but the way he is treated can be compared to religion. Which is a specialty of JP, hence why his reference, I suppose. I think it was Jonathan who said it best: "If he decides to do this or that, it must be the best way forward, since he should know better than me."
@jenniferpatton5108Ай бұрын
FREE PALESTINE Disliked
@haydukethorАй бұрын
jfc this guy is a clown show 🤡🤡🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@jaypee7440Ай бұрын
Jonathans views over analytic not pragmatic and have never turned out the way he predicts
@SiliconCurtainАй бұрын
Example please?
@xtrajentlyАй бұрын
Off course unity is better than division however I find it hard to believe that if the situation was opposite, all the participants of this panel wouldn’t put most of the blame squarely at Trump’s feet.
@QuintaJoryalАй бұрын
such a pitiful analysis… unable to get the correct information from the BBC ?