What if Germany Won WW2 (Part 2) - A Historian Reacts

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@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
The comments section illustrates my point about Germany's ideology perfectly. I'm getting equal numbers of comments telling me how Germany was ABSOLUTELY socialist and comments telling me Germany was hard-core right and NOT socialist at all. Thank you for proving my point about how Nazi Germany cannot be pinned down on a left-right political spectrum.
@dai-belizariusz3087
@dai-belizariusz3087 3 жыл бұрын
well national socialists are definetely a thing. left-right is useless spectrum
@adamm9247
@adamm9247 3 жыл бұрын
@@dai-belizariusz3087 National socialism and socialism are totally different. Although they might share certain policies such as protectionism, it's important to derive the intention behind the implementation of such policies. For example, if a socialist was to advocate for protectionism in a developing nation it would be because they feel as though those policies would negate the threat of Western nations exploiting said developing nation. If a national socialist (fascist) was to advocate for protectionism in one's own country however it would be due to some greater dogmatic ideals about national identity and race relations. Edit: also it's worth mentioning that the first group targeted by the Nazis were socialists, even before the Jews. I think that says it all
@stanleyrogouski
@stanleyrogouski 3 жыл бұрын
@@dai-belizariusz3087 Socialists who are also nationalists aren't all Nazis though. The New Deal, Scandinavian Social Democracy, the British Labor Party, they all depended on the Bretton Woods System and the restriction of the ability of capital and labor to move across borders. It seems to me that without radical anti-Semitism and Nordic supremacy, the Nazi ideology falls apart.
@dai-belizariusz3087
@dai-belizariusz3087 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamm9247 this is just an excuse to say our socialism good their socialism bad.
@adamm9247
@adamm9247 3 жыл бұрын
@@dai-belizariusz3087 I never said that, if that's what you derived from my point then that's a conclusion you came to yourself. The conclusion being, one is clearly worse than the other
@AndreiSorin1994
@AndreiSorin1994 3 жыл бұрын
I generally suck at history , but since I've discovered your channel 2 weeks ago, I've been watching your videos a lot , they're so entertaining and I learn a lot from them. Keep up the good work!
@qwertystania
@qwertystania 3 жыл бұрын
In regards to Fascist economics, and Nazism in particular, it was all about the state. Nazis pursued whatever economic policy they thought would be best for the German state. That means they might socialize one industry, heavily regulated another, and deregulate another. There was no underpinning ideology except that which benefited the state. The best example of a Fascist economic model today is actually "communist" China.
@Jose.AFT.Saddul
@Jose.AFT.Saddul 3 жыл бұрын
Modern China is actually pretty capitalist. They already have a sizable private industry. Korea Del Norte is a better example in my opinion
@fatetwister
@fatetwister 3 жыл бұрын
The first mass privatization occurred in Nazi Germany, I feel like it's pretty easy to see them just putting industry in the hands of people friendly to the party and running on a capitalist mode of production.
@SRosenberg203
@SRosenberg203 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul But that's exactly Jared's point; you can't really consider it capitalist or communist because it uses aspects of both when it is politically expedient to do so, as long as doing so aligns with the focus of the state as the highest level of importance.
@Jose.AFT.Saddul
@Jose.AFT.Saddul 3 жыл бұрын
@@SRosenberg203 good point. Sorry didn’t catch that. Thanks for clarification.
@frail6582
@frail6582 3 жыл бұрын
china is a very good example of the fascists from back then in several aspects
@SRosenberg203
@SRosenberg203 3 жыл бұрын
4:30 That's a really interesting thought. It kind of reminds me of the Cultural Revolution in China in the 1970s, where you saw the children who had been raised in the Communist Party from birth SIGNIFICANTLY more fanatical than the previous generation, to the point that they would be reporting their parents and teachers for essentially thought-crimes against the CCP.
@Jonsson474
@Jonsson474 3 жыл бұрын
Good analogy. Those are my thoughts as well.
@shadefangkweep
@shadefangkweep 3 жыл бұрын
The other thing that occurred to me with the whole "twisting of history and science" thing is the american south. It's not nearly as extreme a situation as you're talking about, and they've been somewhat restrained by the rest of the country, but think about what they've attempted to do to school curriculum with their racist (civil war revisionism, selective or omitted teaching about civil rights and native americans) and religious (abstinence only sex-ed, teaching intelligent design in biology classes) beliefs. They've somewhat succeeded in doing this _without_ being a totalitarian government, and while dealing with a higher government that doesn't fully back the ideas. Personally I agree with altrenatehistroyhub, and think that everything being twisted and taught through the lens of nazism is more than possible, but probable. (EDIT: accidentally typed evolution when I intended to type intelligent design)
@filiplofgren8023
@filiplofgren8023 3 жыл бұрын
sounds like you are describing most west european countries today.
@Luckma1
@Luckma1 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadefangkweep it already started when hitler was in power. Fields of science like atomic energy/ bombs were not really funded because Hitler thought its "jewish" science.
@Jonsson474
@Jonsson474 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luckma1 Thsts an incorrect statement. Nazi Germany spent a massive amount of resources trying to master atomic energy and Hitler believed that creating the atomic bomb was the way to defeat America.
@Thraim.
@Thraim. 3 жыл бұрын
"Hey Adolf, how about you keep an eye on those nuts in the German Worker's Party so they don't radicalise?" "Can do General, Sir." [2 months later] "Y'all need to be more radical about spreading your message."
@downsidesuncasual
@downsidesuncasual 3 жыл бұрын
VTH Shirt Today is: Sabaton t-shirt
@historygaming3765
@historygaming3765 3 жыл бұрын
INTO THE MOTHERLAND THE GERMAN ARMY MARCH
@AjarTadpole7202
@AjarTadpole7202 3 жыл бұрын
@@historygaming3765 COMRADES STAND SIDE BY SIDE TO STOP THE NAZI CHARGE
@AmongUs-es1rb
@AmongUs-es1rb 3 жыл бұрын
@@AjarTadpole7202 PANZERS ON RUSSIAN SOIL, A THUNDER IN THE EAST
@AjarTadpole7202
@AjarTadpole7202 3 жыл бұрын
@@AmongUs-es1rb ONE MILLION MEN AT WAR THE SOVIET WRATH UNLEASHED
@AmongUs-es1rb
@AmongUs-es1rb 3 жыл бұрын
@@AjarTadpole7202 FIELDS OF PROVARODKA, WHERE THE HEAT OF BATTLE BURNED
@ShayTheValiant
@ShayTheValiant 3 жыл бұрын
Please react to "How Medieval Kings Would See Today" by Fire of Learning.
@SRosenberg203
@SRosenberg203 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooooh yeah! I love those videos, that would be a great reaction.
@LuanMower55
@LuanMower55 3 жыл бұрын
Up
@marvinamann4969
@marvinamann4969 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely don't think that cellphones and information technology would be killed. The NSDAP Party was quite interested in radio technology especially for propaganda purpuses. I would rather expect a huge state funded push towards such technologies. But very different than what we imagine as for example the internet. It would not be built on personal freedom of expression but rather on survaliance and propaganda. There are enough real world examples of countries using the internet and computers for propaganda and survaliance instead of personal freedom
@Jonsson474
@Jonsson474 3 жыл бұрын
They would probably solve the problem the same way China is doing right now. - by monitoring everyone’s activities and limiting what sites you can visit etc. I.e. the great firewall of China - the social credit system - by blocking or making controlled versions of browsers and search engines - surveillance of everything coming in and out through the net - by having a huge propaganda machinery, troll factories, that tries to influence every discussion forum on the internet with deceptive information and propaganda
@Novac_Alexandru
@Novac_Alexandru 3 жыл бұрын
Part 2 came sooner than I thought since the time had elapsed so fast. Anyways besides that I am glad hearing your opinion about the subject. I can say I like alternatice history as well.
@ItsBlasky
@ItsBlasky 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! I just finished part 1 and was looking all over for this, and got the notification! Can’t wait to watch it and hear your input
@MessegerAwesome12
@MessegerAwesome12 3 жыл бұрын
Man, so much better than these one-sided political channels. This is educational.
@dreinacho
@dreinacho 3 жыл бұрын
Like a wise man once said: "all Nazis are fascists, but not all fascists are nazis"
@zdrug3676
@zdrug3676 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. Im a Fascist but not a Nazi.
@Drdarktouch2
@Drdarktouch2 3 жыл бұрын
@@zdrug3676 Franco, Salazar, or Mussolini.
@zdrug3676
@zdrug3676 3 жыл бұрын
@@Drdarktouch2 similar to Mosley type but not english
@ivanderschreckliche8385
@ivanderschreckliche8385 3 жыл бұрын
who said that?
@Drdarktouch2
@Drdarktouch2 2 жыл бұрын
@Jacob Wilson to be honest I can't remember at this point, been 5 months
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 3 жыл бұрын
Political spectrums are worthless. Economic, Domestic and Foreign Security spectrums are more useful. Since the US only has to real parties in the discussion their policies move along the spectrums in very annoy and hard to describe in simple left, center, right dialogue. But that's just my pet peeve concerning political discourse.
@Jose.AFT.Saddul
@Jose.AFT.Saddul 3 жыл бұрын
And somehow that’s how the two parties still interact with each other sometimes. The Republican Party call their opponents the Radical Left and Communist and the Democrats call their counterparts racist far right neo nazis.
@MultiKiwi911
@MultiKiwi911 3 жыл бұрын
I'm one of the many people that just found this channel not all that long ago, and from the first video I just gone through most of the videos available. I'm in love with this channel.
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re here!
@MultiKiwi911
@MultiKiwi911 3 жыл бұрын
@@VloggingThroughHistory And I'm definitely here to stay!
@tythorn13
@tythorn13 3 жыл бұрын
A big issue is when some people think "Socialism," they only think of "Marxism." And the Nazis completely 100% hated Marxism, believing it to be a Jewish conspiracy. So they suddenly think Nazis are completely different. In reality, different governments can have similar ideas, while also holding different interpretations & perspectives that lead to them hating each other. The Sino-Soviet Split is a great cold war example of this.
@Web720
@Web720 3 жыл бұрын
Right? Not even Lenin implemented 100% of Marxism and even deviated or contested some of it. Both Lenin and Trotsky bicker on their ideologies. Also Leftist=/=100% Marxism.
@kebabmega6349
@kebabmega6349 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason Hitler named his ideology National Socialism was because he wanted to paint Nazism in a favorable way to the working class. He wanted to paint Nazism as this worker supporting and worker friendly ideology as socialism seemed to have been popular amongst the working classes. However it wasn't similar at all to any socialist ideology at the time. It was completely different from any other ideology that was called socialist at the time. The word socialism for Hitler was simply marketing. If Hitler was instead in the United States for example since capitalism is more popular amongst the working class than socialism he'd might have instead used the word capitalism to appeal to the people there. It was simply marketing.
@Web720
@Web720 3 жыл бұрын
@@kebabmega6349 Except there were real national socialist in the party, that were later purged by Hitler. Those later called Strasserism, a branch of Nazism, that is "Uhm Askually" National Socialist.
@tythorn13
@tythorn13 3 жыл бұрын
@@kebabmega6349 Hitler's ideology isn't Marxism. But it is socialism. Now, of course, Marxists and Nazis don't see each other as true socialists (Hitler thought Communism was run by Jewish Capital for fucks sake). Although different types of Marxist socialists seem to agree with that about the other types of Marxist socialists, because actual socialists are fucking stupid. Regardless, if you want to deep dive into a video explaining socialism and Hitler's perspective with dozens of sources, here's a video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3TOqop4hcaHeZo
@TheAngryXenite
@TheAngryXenite 3 жыл бұрын
@@tythorn13 Tik is full of shit on that topic, and his position has no actual weight. He's a military historian. All he's doing is playing with the definition of words so he can paint all opposing ideologies as part of one monolithic socialist entity that his own, iirc extremely libertarian capitalistic liberal democratic views stand against. Basically, Tik is saying that "socialism" just means being populist and collectivist, with a trend towards authoritarianism. I find this to be a deliberately broad definition that only exists to group disparate ideological trends together. What is essential to socialism, in my belief, is the acceptance of class struggle as a guiding force of human history and conflict and the belief that the poor and lower class people have shared interests which should see them unite against their elite masters and establish true freedom. Socialism MUST BE egalitarian in nature, and while nationalistic socialism is not a contradiction it must still be framed in the context of class struggle. Fascism explicitly rejects all of this. What it champions is the national or racial struggle, the idea that regardless of social status, all members of one nation are inherently more alike than they are to members of outgroups, and that all of history is defined by the struggle of different nations or races against each other. All interactions between nations are zero-sum, with no meaningful cooperation being possible except in warfare against others, with war being the natural state of mankind. This is why you'd see capitalists and industrialists side with fascist movements against socialists: Fascism rejects class warfare in favor of national struggle, and supports all classes working together as one united front against enemies both foreign and domestic. Fascism rejects egalitarianism in favor of immutable natural hierarchies, which is why while socialism does not have to be authoritarian, fascism MUST be.
@haise7287
@haise7287 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched part 1 and I saw this uploaded 9 mins ago. Greetings from the Philippines, it's currently 1:05AM here.
@AjarTadpole7202
@AjarTadpole7202 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing you talk about things just before he brings it up brings me an unknown emotion
@zamin973
@zamin973 3 жыл бұрын
I Absolutely love this idea of yours! You add so much more information to any video you are reacting...unlike other reaction channels,Way to Go 👏
@AdamZNC
@AdamZNC 3 жыл бұрын
As simple as that, I saw the video and I clicked instantly. no questions. just pure enjoyment.
@joerimoerland1260
@joerimoerland1260 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually making a video on this matter as well! Putting LOTS of research into it, but i hope it will be worthwhile :)
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Send me a link when you're done.
@12thbattalion26
@12thbattalion26 3 жыл бұрын
You're videos are awesome! Ussually when u see a react channel think "eh nothing good" but for you its awesome cuz u actually add more to the convos and make the videos seem even more interesting than they already are!
@guitarguymi
@guitarguymi 3 жыл бұрын
Someone said in a video on Mr. Terry History that you two should do a collaboration thought it was a neat idea (perhaps Sabaton) and I'd share it here. Love both channels keep it up bud!
@DrStrangelove_
@DrStrangelove_ 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of your videos you subscribers are still climbing at an incredible rate. Much deserved!!!
@jsealejandro06
@jsealejandro06 3 жыл бұрын
About the trade thing. Germany before and even during the begining of ww2 actually traded a lot with the soviets so I can see them trading with people outside their influence as long as they benefit from it.
@drrakw2432
@drrakw2432 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I can't wait for Admiral Yi. Thanks for posting!
@rokkotnik710
@rokkotnik710 3 жыл бұрын
12:20 yugoslavia was liberated by partisans without any help from red army (exceptions liberation of Belgrade and some air support) and half of the country was already liberated in 1943 before invasion of Italy by allies.
@ChrisGrahamkedzuel
@ChrisGrahamkedzuel 3 жыл бұрын
There's a third one, it's all about America in this alternate timeline.
@just__mate
@just__mate 3 жыл бұрын
5:10 Interestingly enough that was indeed what they were already doing in our timeline. In schools the ideology would be represented even in classes like math. One example that comes to mind is the math problem children had to solve regarding the daily costs of living of a complete and healthy family vs a single disabled person.
@shadefangkweep
@shadefangkweep 3 жыл бұрын
I mentioned this in another comment, but also think about what some US schools have attempted (and sometimes succeeded at). Civil war revisionism, abstinence-only sex-ed, intelligent design in biology classes, the often complete glossing over of native american and civil rights issues...
@leto.o5759
@leto.o5759 3 жыл бұрын
also, I'm soooo happy I found your channel amazing work!
@229masterchief
@229masterchief 3 жыл бұрын
The best take on alternate reality of Axis victory in my opinion is the lore of The New Order: Last Days of Europe, since not only it portrayed the horrors of the genocide and slavery in Eastern Europe or Japan's brutal colonialism in Asia, but also it avoids a trope that many similar media (e.g., The Man in the High Castle, even as much as I enjoyed it) unfortunately do, inadvertently or not, which is propagating the myth of Fascist hyper efficiency. Because Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan was wracked with many, many incredibly petty infighting and borderline criminal incompetence.
@Kenshiroit
@Kenshiroit 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reason that these what if? Frustrate me so much. Its more about wishfull thinking and propaganda gulliblism (is this even a word?) Than historical plausibility.
@GabrielUngacta
@GabrielUngacta Жыл бұрын
My problem with TNO is; they still have Atlantropa.
@229masterchief
@229masterchief Жыл бұрын
@@GabrielUngacta Yea but I think they're planning to retcon Atlantropa
@Holidaypunch1
@Holidaypunch1 Жыл бұрын
Except their choice of GUI hurts your eyes
@229masterchief
@229masterchief Жыл бұрын
Yea the GUI needs to be redesign yesterday
@tomodonoghue_
@tomodonoghue_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you doing a collab with some of these channels you're reacting to.
@randomirishguy7358
@randomirishguy7358 3 жыл бұрын
Yessss love this series keep it up👍
@soccreyes4647
@soccreyes4647 3 жыл бұрын
A historian wearing a sabaton shirt. Yeah that got me to subscribe today! Informative clear video. I hope you can do about french indochina before Vietnam war. Thanks man!
@semkoops
@semkoops 3 жыл бұрын
I want to point out something about what you said around 12:15. The Yugoslav partisans managed to create their own state from underground resistance against the Nazis without Soviet help
@_np7
@_np7 3 жыл бұрын
I love your t-shirt :D great album aswell ;)
@TheMasonK
@TheMasonK 3 жыл бұрын
Almost 150k! Holy crap! Congrats man!
@rs91268
@rs91268 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video sir
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 8 ай бұрын
About Switzerland: Switzerland is listed as one of the hardest countries to invade for a reason. Today and even during WW2, the Swiss had heavily fortified their nation and introduced national conscription. Plus the extremely cold and mountainous terrain would've made any ground assault very difficult
@ZearthGJL
@ZearthGJL 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a reaction of some of Simple History's videos? Maybe Templin Institute?
@blackjack90631
@blackjack90631 3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to theae videos every day!
@ghost_in_the_system
@ghost_in_the_system 2 жыл бұрын
@12:20 The Yugoslavian Partisans were actually incredibly effective, to the point where they kinda liberated themselves
@karlvonhabsburg1581
@karlvonhabsburg1581 3 жыл бұрын
, In my state we had Eugenic classes as far recent as the 70s, in our top University no less, wild how these things can last.
@kebabmega6349
@kebabmega6349 3 жыл бұрын
Aren't laws against incest sort of like a modern form of eugenics and miscegenation? Similar to eugenics because it decides with what people you can breed and miscegenation because this is decided based on blood relations. In the case if miscegenation it's because the people are considered too far apart in terms of kinship, too different. While in the case of incest it again has to do with how close people are but instead of being about how far away they are it's about them being considered too close.
@joejrfloyd7231
@joejrfloyd7231 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content great insight
@johnclement189
@johnclement189 3 жыл бұрын
"while this is happening, what is the USA doing?" *Say, we have 70 nuclear bombs ready to deploy, should we give it a test in a big city?*
@Waftey
@Waftey 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm... which city? Berlin or..... Berlin
@dylanw6088
@dylanw6088 3 жыл бұрын
Know this is gonna be a great vid! Thanks!
@virginiarogers6034
@virginiarogers6034 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, you're already halfway to 200K!
@MrzS3v3Nz
@MrzS3v3Nz 3 жыл бұрын
Love the shirt! You got me into listening to Sabaton
@littlekuribohimposte
@littlekuribohimposte 3 жыл бұрын
About Switzerland: I heard a story about a Swiss general and German General talking. The German General eventually asked: "What is we invade you with one million men?" The Swiss general responded, "We'll call up one million National Guard members." The German general then asked, "What if we invade with two million men?" "Our men shoot twice."
@michaelkenney9687
@michaelkenney9687 3 жыл бұрын
Good job on this video
@shunjiwatanabe816
@shunjiwatanabe816 3 жыл бұрын
Love ur channel!!
@niceparker8401
@niceparker8401 3 жыл бұрын
The wolfenstein video games, though it may seem ridiculous, give you a serious idea of how the world could have looked if the Allies fell.
@The_Jester_I
@The_Jester_I 3 жыл бұрын
You should do the oversimplified video on the Emu War in Australia
@TartarusBln
@TartarusBln 3 жыл бұрын
To the statement on 18:18 You should not forgot that the first full electric computer was invented in Berlin Germany in 1941 by Konrad Ernst Otto Zuse it was caed the Z3
@D4zzyW4zzy
@D4zzyW4zzy 3 жыл бұрын
great content loving it
@rasmus3176
@rasmus3176 3 жыл бұрын
You should watch Extra Credits Great Northern War series. Or maybe The Danelaw series. Although i would prefer the Great Northern War series, since that series is more about Sweden, and Sweden is the best country in the world (im not biased, and if anyone says i am, they are lying.) Or maybe something about the Kalmar Union. Maybe i just missed it, but im pretty sure you havent reacted to anything about Sweden, or Scandinavia in general. Which strikes me as odd, considering the fact that Sweden used to be one of the most powerful countries in Europe. The Swedish "Stormaktstiden", or "the era of great power" is a very interesting time in Swedish history, and i'd love to hear your thoughts about it. Although, the great northern war series is more about the war that ended "stormaktstiden" and began "frihetstiden", meaning "the era/age of freedom", so maybe there's a better video/series for you to watch that is about the Swedish Empire as a whole, rather than just the end of it. Either way, love your stuff. But would love it even more if you reacted to a bit of stuff about Scandinavia and The Nordic Countries(especially Sweden).
@abc68130
@abc68130 3 жыл бұрын
I think a full invasion of Italy would be possible. Not only were they weak, but in Northern Italy there were ethnic Germans, particualarly in Südtirol.
@Kenshiroit
@Kenshiroit 2 жыл бұрын
Not so long Mussolini was in power. For reasons, Hitler idolized el duce and the only hostility he ever did against Italy was when they removed and incarcerated Musso. Then he placed him at the guide of the RSI. So its safe to say so long Mussolini is there italy is safe.
@chasefarris1728
@chasefarris1728 3 жыл бұрын
You should react to his what if the conference won the civil war series
@IrishTechnicalThinker
@IrishTechnicalThinker 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Sabaton T- Shirt brother.
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
That was sent to me by their record label as part of a thank you package for featuring the band on my channel.
@thomastay4130
@thomastay4130 3 жыл бұрын
I just watch part 1 a moment ago so perfect time
@MasterWooten
@MasterWooten 3 жыл бұрын
At 4:30 that vision is spelled out in the Robert Harris novel "Fatherland."
@liamroarke7991
@liamroarke7991 3 жыл бұрын
Nice choice in shirts lmao. Appropriate for today's video.
@johncarter101
@johncarter101 2 жыл бұрын
The new Wolfenstein games are good example of such alternative reality.
@imagorll
@imagorll 3 жыл бұрын
Theres a channel called history matters that provides short but informational history vids. Id like to see you react to their vids if you can since the videos are quite condesnsed. To expand and provide context and all that jazz. Cheers!
@H3rpD3rp88
@H3rpD3rp88 3 жыл бұрын
6:45 literally George Orwell's 1984
@leto.o5759
@leto.o5759 3 жыл бұрын
There was a yugoslav resistance movement that forced the nazis out with no aid from the soviets or the west. However the nazis left after being routed by the soviets in 1944 so that was a big point.
@jobfranschman8436
@jobfranschman8436 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah in the Netherlands the Nazis started the first month kindly towards the people of the Netherlands. But when there was a first strike in February 1941 and they become much more hardcore.
@Dinosaursrecycle
@Dinosaursrecycle 3 жыл бұрын
I think you would like the hoi 4 mod the new order. it is a really interesting world and really a blast to learn about.
@Kenshiroit
@Kenshiroit 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is old, but...in North Africa oil was discovered in the 50s, lots of it. Libia would still be under Italian control, thus making Italy a oil producing power. I wonder how would that play off with Hitler.
@jram7115
@jram7115 3 жыл бұрын
You should watch the Kaiserich one he did it’s really good!!
@fixipszikon6670
@fixipszikon6670 3 жыл бұрын
When there was communissm in the satellite states it looked exactly the same as soviet union (see prior 1956), but after some satellite states revolted, they started to do their own thing, but soviets still had a say in many things until the 80's.
@tiraku082
@tiraku082 3 жыл бұрын
If you like alternate history you could react to "Operation Downfall" which would have been the invasion of mainland Japan if the japanese didnt surrender due to the atomic bombs and the involvement of the Soviet Union
@Jose.AFT.Saddul
@Jose.AFT.Saddul 3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting scenario was Operation Cherry Blossoms at Night. Basically Japan would launch a bio attack to cause a plague to decimate the US population.
@tiraku082
@tiraku082 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul I totally agree with you. If I remember correctly, Unit 731was responsible for this Operation. Unit 731 would also be an interesting topic considering that all of its members got away without punishment after all the crimes against humanity committed by them.
@docicedan
@docicedan 3 жыл бұрын
12:20 Republic of Užice is first liberated territory in World War II Europe. The Republic was established by the Partisan resistance movement ...
@mrfisher1072
@mrfisher1072 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the Nazis would have evolved into something similar to what we see in China when it comes to a lot of the things that he trys to put a military spin on for some reason.
@germandalek9687
@germandalek9687 3 жыл бұрын
Great T-Shirt!!!!
@brycebauer878
@brycebauer878 3 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if you covered history of the vikings
@ronstoppable5198
@ronstoppable5198 3 жыл бұрын
21:40. I read somewhere, I am paraphrasing but it essentially said Germany could have somehow destroyed the RAF and the Royal Navy and Operation Sealion would have still failed, one thing it said was because German transports were river barges and where not equipped to ferry soldiers across the English Channel and North Sea, but even if they did put boots on the ground, they still had to deal with the British army and a hostile populace that I can see would be armed by the government. To sum up, Operation Sealion succeeding is IMO pure fantasy. 23:10. There was a named operation for the invasion of Switzerland called Operation Tannenbaum. (fir tree or Christmas tree) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tannenbaum
@notsostealthmission5184
@notsostealthmission5184 Жыл бұрын
10:19 Some TNO type scenario could happen
@pwx13
@pwx13 2 жыл бұрын
10:50 North Koreas dynasty is an example of extreme ideologies staying in power a long time
@MinecraftRealm713
@MinecraftRealm713 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine new technologies being heavily vetted to ensure its use can be controlled before being released for public consumption.
@andrewjennings7306
@andrewjennings7306 3 жыл бұрын
The growth of your channel has been incredible. Definitely reminds me of mr Terry's growth if you've heard of him.
@Mwakinificent
@Mwakinificent 3 жыл бұрын
You should do Kaiserreich!
@Mwakinificent
@Mwakinificent 3 жыл бұрын
Its basically what Turtledove did except you know.. good.
@DamonNomad82
@DamonNomad82 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about the word "Nazi" is that it already had a meaning in German before the infamous party ever existed. Its original meaning was a slang term for an uneducated, uncultured country bumpkin. In modern American English, terms with the same meaning would be "redneck", "rube" or "hick". This term was popularized outside of Germany by Germans who were hostile to the party and had to flee to other countries.
@MasterWooten
@MasterWooten 3 жыл бұрын
At 22:40, Cody is wrong. The British empire at this point had enough independent Dominions which would have gone their separate ways had the Nazis taken the British mainland. the fact is many of these countries were already opposed to Nazi Germany's ideology and would have been safe in place (South Africa, Australia, New Zealand) because the Nazis could not have got to them or protected by the US (Canada and Newfoundland come to mind). Sub-Saharan Africa, India and the Caribbean would not have faced Nazi invasion simply because they were either too close to America (Caribbean) or held no strategic value (Africa, India).
@DonFatherTrump
@DonFatherTrump 2 жыл бұрын
4:20 Those types of kids are really noticable these days.
@ryanberkowitz5399
@ryanberkowitz5399 Жыл бұрын
Militarism was always a key aspect of the character of Germany going back to its predecessor Prussia. I think leaning on that would be the easiest way for the 3rd reich to hold onto power. Especially after the death of hitler, keeping up military production would have kept the German people employed as the economy was a major factor in the many of them supporting the party.
@gothicfan52
@gothicfan52 3 жыл бұрын
Nice sabaton shirt
@JD-gk7eh
@JD-gk7eh 3 жыл бұрын
"When you come to power through creating enemies, there always has to be enemies." That's a really wise observation and describes soooo many things, even in today's America. The past couple election cycles (both parties), the mainstream media, etc. Those things very much reflect being what they are by making enemies and that's why they have to keep making more.
@reichtanglevictor1694
@reichtanglevictor1694 3 жыл бұрын
16:10 exactly. Remember, the germans traded with the soviets too
@rattheninja2877
@rattheninja2877 3 жыл бұрын
Are we not gonna talk about the dingos and emus in Australia?
@stevenator0281
@stevenator0281 3 жыл бұрын
Hitler was a Socialist. Rather than advocating for state ownership of the means of production, he permitted the means of production to remain in private hands, but the control of the means of production were in the hands of the state. Modern Socialist don't like being grouped in with Hitler, but that is just too bad.
@moki4541
@moki4541 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, technologies would have come anyway. Most of the technology we use nowadays are used in military
@ad.ke.7224
@ad.ke.7224 3 жыл бұрын
In the GDR the kids were raised in a specific ideology, but it didn't get that far, like he describes it in his what-if-reich. Not erveryone agrees with everthing and hundreds of years of culture can't be erased. There was allready a generation raised in the third reich. And not everyone was automatically a Nazi.
@drumkommandr9779
@drumkommandr9779 3 жыл бұрын
@6:28 If only literally any emperor in history could receive these words...
@dogcar2017
@dogcar2017 3 жыл бұрын
love your video's
@chasemathis2016
@chasemathis2016 Жыл бұрын
nice shirt, bro
@loathecraft
@loathecraft 3 жыл бұрын
27:09 "I can see the american becoming that anime"
@cookietime1949
@cookietime1949 3 жыл бұрын
I hope we will see the ultimate fight in part 3. The untold story about the aryan super soldier vs. the floridaman....
@alvis6970
@alvis6970 3 жыл бұрын
I have that same shirt, cool.
@jamesfetherston1190
@jamesfetherston1190 2 жыл бұрын
5:39 I see what they are talking about, if you compare to the Soviet Union, they skewed science to their ideology in a number of ways, most notably their adherence to Lysenkoism (as opposed to Darwinian evolution) which set the USSR back tremendously in just about all of biological sciences.
@255omega9
@255omega9 Жыл бұрын
12:00 is mostly true besides yugoslavia, yes they did get help and wouldent have been able to be free if germany won. But yugoslavia did mostly free itself
@jdotoz
@jdotoz 4 ай бұрын
Eh. They got free because Germany had to leave to deal with their collapsing war effort Tito didn't do that, the Allies did. If the full force of Germany is free to deal with the partisans indiscriminately, it goes a lot differently. What the partisans did was survive while resisting, which is a lot more than nothing but I don't think we can say they "freed themselves."
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