The advantage grip athletes, strongmen, and rock climbers have is they don't have to focus on training their fingers. They can focus on just the wrist so it catches up to the fingers
@Bapiten-hy3lk2 ай бұрын
But mostly, no one needs separate exercises for fingers and wrist because you can't do your cupping movements properly without fingers.
@nickk95932 ай бұрын
@@Bapiten-hy3lk incorrect. Finger training should be separate.
@little_engine_goes_to_Thailand2 ай бұрын
What an excellent amount of information. Cleared up a lot of things I didn't even know or understand. Thank you
@voiceofarmwrestling2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@EvolutionaryE2 ай бұрын
To put it in anatomical terms, in armwrestling: flexion of the MTP joint (metatarsophalangeal) is more important than flexion of the IP joints (interphalangeal). In another “language”: keeping the base of the fingers at 90 degree angle to the palm is more important than moving the finger joints themselves. I would argue there are certain unique styles of pulling that do use a more traditional squeezing movement of the hand, but the base that is built on is the same as what you are talking about. Without the finger-wrist connection it’s useless.
@daveheath199002 ай бұрын
Here's a tip. Train the whole hand including all the fingers. Most people have a weak pinky and ring finger because when u workout, let's say hammer curls...u only need the thumb, index finger and middle finger to hold the weight. Most people forget about the pinky and ring finger which would give the hand soo much more grip power if all 5 fingers were engaged.
@Ownlight111112 ай бұрын
Ooooo definitely needed this video, thank you Coach Ray!!!!
@punisher89312 ай бұрын
Great man!!! It's always nice to see super technical content on your channel! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@voiceofarmwrestling2 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@youtuberbayleexiong9082 ай бұрын
You always have the best teachings on armwrestling
@time62have2 ай бұрын
Ty, one day id like to see full week training plan 🙏😃
@jorancardon71252 ай бұрын
You can have it on his patreon
@time62have2 ай бұрын
@@jorancardon7125P2🚂 😃
@DLime862 ай бұрын
Just the tip - Coach Ray
2 ай бұрын
Thank you caoch!
@voiceofarmwrestling2 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@ThunderbackOG2 ай бұрын
This style of video is great
@deeopian2 ай бұрын
Ray, you should discuss the opposite wood block spinner that trains the extensors in the hand and forearm. Todd Hutchings does statics with those.
@jason52762 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge Coach Ray 🤘 Best regards from Québec
@voiceofarmwrestling2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@benmarch25662 ай бұрын
Thankyou for this channel! Love the way you explain everything!!
@the50coach2 ай бұрын
Makes perfect sense Thanks Coach
@BLZArmwrestling2 ай бұрын
I love the Ultragrip handle. I had the previous version wristmax and i feel more on my wrist with ultragrip.
@RDS_Armwrestling2 ай бұрын
I have the wrist max, never tried the ultra grip but Ermes says the ultra is better, and I know another guy says the same
@BLZArmwrestling2 ай бұрын
@@RDS_Armwrestling i like more the ultragrip too. Feels more like iam pulling some1
@MANG00J2 ай бұрын
It is important to note though that depending on what style someone is good at personally, then a move that involves squeezing via the fingers can be extremely effective. The first people that come to mind for me is Travis Bagent & RVJ (RVJ seems to rely on crushing with the bottom 3 fingers, pinky-ring-etc.).
@Sam-cy6cd2 ай бұрын
Travis left the chat
@jacobevansarm2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@junktoyota2 ай бұрын
Travis says the same thing. Don't squeeze with your finger tips lol
@Sam-cy6cd2 ай бұрын
@@junktoyota Travis makes a fist for his toproll
@Russellmonroe3142 ай бұрын
Thanks coach
@tagoultragamer7292 ай бұрын
Good exercise
@lsb26232 ай бұрын
I love to grab I cant help it! But I think I'm on the right track for a bunch of this stuff according to the coach. Thanks Ray, technique is king for noobs like me! SSLA
@Dan_The_Nightmare2 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff!!!
@thedrew242 ай бұрын
KZbin algorithm boosting comment 💪 ... ya, clamping, not squeezing strength is more important. i love all the different handles, even if i wouldn't realistically use many of them.
@richardjennex65832 ай бұрын
Another great video
@Essensiell_Styrke2 ай бұрын
Great advice
@saudd12242 ай бұрын
too early today🔥🔥
@sergeimalynovskyi13702 ай бұрын
Golden!
@mmmyeahh2 ай бұрын
Super cool , where did you get that orange wedge handle ?? I want one too
@jafararkan99282 ай бұрын
in the right time thanks
@danypell25172 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ArmWrestlingVIP2 ай бұрын
This is why I'm losing to my friends easily while being much much stronger than them everywhere except for my fingers, never trained them before
@wimiamy98652 ай бұрын
Try to slip and go to straps. You should dominate them here😅
@ermeriodsassperini2 ай бұрын
God Dam you Ray Lipin!! I thought you had Devon's Hammer!
@korntoss-o2h2 ай бұрын
What is the correct training for pronation and rising and should it be train static or dynamic???🗿🗿🗿
@RDS_Armwrestling2 ай бұрын
I would argue that pinch strength does have its place in a training regimen, since you're using the muscles of the hand to keep the fingers static, not flexing the fingers, plus the thumb is trained which can cause growth and a thick thumb and thumb pad is useful for armwrestling. I wouldn't do exclusively pinch training, obviously, but a little bit here and there is definitely worthwhile. Sure, the wrist might not be straight or bent in, but the finger/hand position IS armwrestling position like with a flat handle.
@milchmann7372 ай бұрын
Where can I find the red handle ?
@mmmyeahh2 ай бұрын
The wedge handle right ?
@milchmann7372 ай бұрын
@@mmmyeahh yeah, I found a similar one on ArmShark btw but its out of sale rn
@SingularityCSGO12 ай бұрын
man who makes that orange finger handle? looks really nice!
@powslayz36902 ай бұрын
bro called me out as a climber, thats me 💯 😭💀
@thearyansoni3770Ай бұрын
Rock climber wrist are very strong
@mercedesamg22872 ай бұрын
Hey Rey, do you still use the wristmax handle? Do you like it?
@belisariusjustinian42312 ай бұрын
I have a workout schedule for Hammer curl, pronation curl, supination curl, bicep curl, wrist curl, wrist pronation and deadhangs. Which one should I do first or I can do with heavy weights (5 reps max)?
@danielzeller6209Ай бұрын
I train both
@Imnotaniggabruh2 ай бұрын
What about sidepressure
@benmarch25662 ай бұрын
Have you got a link to the handle that you use at 8.40?
@roblaw35002 ай бұрын
Who makes that orange handle?
@revhill8192 ай бұрын
After seeing Eddie Hall's training, coach decided to school everyone.
@iagorossi36182 ай бұрын
Who would win in a toproll battle Auden or Jerry Cadorette?
@umbra18182 ай бұрын
Ahaha nice one 😂 i think should still be jerry
@ericio22132 ай бұрын
So is wrist and wrist strength more important than arm strength?
@NoMercy14442 ай бұрын
10 time more 85% is handcontrol
@MyThelema2 ай бұрын
Ray, when doing containment I get a lot of discomfort on the ulnar side of my wrist. Only happens on my right hand which leads me to believe I've hurt it at some point since it's usually my stronger hand. The joint feels very unstable when I get all the way out on my fingertips aswell - do you have any experience with this?
@ChimpFlipperJr2 ай бұрын
Yes, I have had the same thing off and on. It means you have a mild injury there, you might be able to work around it by adjusting your hand placement. Imagine you’re holding a containment handle, you can hold it in the center or more at the front or more at the back. Hold it where more of the handle is protruding from the thumb side, not the pinky side. This will reduce the stress on the ulnar side of your wrist.
@tomastorasen91642 ай бұрын
Please Ray help me. Ive searched for arm wrestling equipment and handles that I can take with me to the gym. I only find like Omega that is very pricy. I need just simple stuff for pronation, flexion with tension on fingers and rising. Any websites that doesnt run me dry?
@mercedesamg22872 ай бұрын
If you're interested, ermes gasparini trains with wristball handles
@tomastorasen91642 ай бұрын
@@mercedesamg2287 thanks. Yeah while searching I found those. Ordered three handles. Seems real legit.
@alexandruscr9991smkj2 ай бұрын
Can you please help me. I can not toproll because of technique
@isavalla19352 ай бұрын
Then get stronger
@CambrelCallahan072 ай бұрын
Back pressure, riser, pronation
@zoro-kk2ge2 ай бұрын
Top roll is for smart people. Hook is for strong people. If you can't even top-roll then you must be weaker than average.
@DevexTRE2 ай бұрын
@@zoro-kk2geif you cant toproll levan you must be weak, ive seen u comment so many times and its always such dumb comments😂
@Rajnesh_official12 ай бұрын
❤
@tagoultragamer7292 ай бұрын
😮😮😮
@zoro-kk2ge2 ай бұрын
Arm wrestling is so complicated if you aren't strong. If you are strong, its so simple. Just hook and side pressure.
@petru22132 ай бұрын
And how did that go for larry wheels?
@tomasmartinez7882 ай бұрын
i don want to like the video, its 666 likes right now