Thanks for the helpful video! It seems that to keep the combustion chamber as clean as possible, you would want to have combustion on the lean side and also maximize your combustion chamber temperature. So, it seems that you want to lower the fuel pump speed (which you have done) to lean-out combustion, but also *lower* the fan speed to increase the temperature of the combustion chamber. Where is the flaw in my logic? I guess the fan controls more than the external (cooling) air, that runs over the exterior of the combustion unit to provide room heat, the fan must also provide the combustion chamber air as well?
@FuckignRuby Жыл бұрын
if I recall, these are NA, but feel free to correct me anyone that has one of these
@fredfred2363 Жыл бұрын
Choke the combustion air input when at max fuelling like a regular oil boiler, to get the lowest volume of combustion product. That increases volumetric efficiency, increases heat exchanger temps while still keeping a lean burn👍🏻 Think of it the other way too... throwing in too much air simply blows all the hot gas straight out of the exhaust. You want to reduce exhaust gas temps to near condensing levels, while still maintaing a lean burn.
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
@Mobius X You are 100% correct! I'm pinning your comment, it explains the video in words 😉
@idaveuk Жыл бұрын
I was going to use a server power supply wot you think tony ???
@yodab.at1746 Жыл бұрын
@@idaveuk any power supply that can provide 12-13 amps at 12v will work. It only pulls 10+ amps while the glow plug is on, after that the consumption drops to around 2 amps.
@micg Жыл бұрын
I've been getting endless e-08's and e-10's for 3 months since getting one of these last fall -- all indicators pointed to too much fuel, but all the internet experts suggested too much air in my fuel lines, bad wires etc. Working on these changed nothing. Last night I used your setting as a starting point, 3.8 hz and 5000 rpm for the high setting, and without any other change it just started up instantly! Thank you!
@djgrazzy Жыл бұрын
Do you have your pump on an angle 15⁰-35⁰? I just purchased a second hand campervan and suspected that was my issue and found my pump installed perfectly horizontal.
@oojimmyflip Жыл бұрын
Thats odd because the ecu inside the heater has a pre-programmed start up sequence, it is the same start up sequence for all of them and it is not adjustable so whatever setting you set for running in the special settings menu it will not affect the fan speed on start up whatever you do, just the running speed after start up, so your tinkering must have paid off initially maybe you cleared some air from the fuel lines? or cleaned out the atomiser hole next to the glow plug ?, something you did right, or maybe you just have a tempermental heater, I had one that didnt like starting, so I cut the length of the air intake hose in half straightened it and put an old piece of stocking on the end as a filter medium with an elastic band, it starts first time every time now. when you run one straight out of the box they will start up and run fine without any hoses or exhaust pipes attached and I thinkn thats how they test them in the factory. Then we go and stick a carboard hose on the air intake and restrict the airflow with a plastic silencer, probably slightly crushing the cardboard tube in the process or bending it more than once so that it struggles to get air to the combustion chamber.
@micg10 ай бұрын
@@oojimmyflip when I had it on default settings, it would start up the first time after install, then just smoke and pop like crazy on every subsequent attempt, over and over and over. Took everything apart, cleaned out the build-up (it wasn't burning the diesel fully), reassembled.. same thing. Double-checked literally everything, pump angle etc. was all fine. It was only once I re-did the settings as outlined here, found the sweet spot, haven't had an issue again. Didn't even have to disassemble and clean, just got going once the settings were fixed after many failed ignitions and a few flame outs on the default. Last night was the first time I had it on since May, still using the modded settings from last feb, and it fired up right away. I infer the startup sequence uses the 'low' and 'high' settings as its starting and ending point, gradually moving through the curve between these, if you think of it like a graph. Pretty sure its not just one default startup with static fan/fuel settings. If you think of the stoichiometry of the reaction here, diesel combustion needs diesel, oxygen, and heat. When the reaction isn't working right, its one of these three things that are off, can't be anything else -- in my case it was lacking sufficient oxygen for complete combustion of the given fuel amount. I think the issue is pump capacity. These kits all come with different pumps, ranging between 16-22ml per 1000 pumps. The default setting is maybe correct for one of these pump sizes, not the others. I can't remember which size I have, I think 22ml ie one of the larger ones hence me needing to get more oxygen in there per pump frequency.
@bigduphusaj16210 ай бұрын
@@oojimmyflipThats wrong mate. I install these on boats im a boat builder. Lots of the smaller boats we do fefurbs on the customer wants the cheap chinese ones. The start up sequence will change with the max and min rpm settings because the algorythim reduces the speed in which the fan ramps up just as it turns the plug off. For example the ones sold as 5-8kw are known for if you set the fan speed at 2500 & 5000 they have a habit of blowing out right as the plug turns off and the fan ramps up to max during start. The ramp up is too fast and the chamber usually gets blown out around the 56deg mark then you get a shutdown followed by an automatic second attempt, which sometimes gets it going. By lowering the max fan speed to 4400-4600 regardless of the fueling frequency you will automatically reduce the ramping up speed and the heater will no longer blow out at 55ish deg when the plug goes out. You can clearly hear the difference it makes and if you have anything monitoring your battery then you can see it the figure on the fan rpm ramp up spike is lower on startup. This goes for the black, blue red and newer black controller the one that has the voice speaker and connectivity. This is also the case with both aftermarket controllers ive used and the algorithms in the expensive aftermarket one (you know the one?) its automatic start up sequence is basically 4800 normal temp start up, below 0 deg intake it goes to 4600 max and on second attempt onwards the controller sets the startup speed to 5000 for the 5-8kw copy heaters. I hope you accept this as the truth because ive had to sort a load of them for the same issue especially after plug changes some dont like set to 5000 on startup because of the ramp up being so steep. cheers.
@bigduphusaj16210 ай бұрын
@@micgyou are right sort of. These heaters especially the 5-8kw sold models the start up sequence algorythim will vary based on the max-min fan speed rpm, mostly the high speed setting. During the start up sequence the distinct ramp up in fan speed that coincides with the heater plug going out (around 55deg) is because the heater thinks the chamber is lit enough to run on its own. If you set the top RPM speed to 5000 and your heater runs fine then cool but if you are suffering blow outs on start up then reducing the max fan speed to 4600-4800rpm the rate in which the fan ramps up at slows so the chamber doesnt get blown out. Some of them you cannot get them going on 5000rpm setting after a plug renewal and a clean, they need backed off to 4600 to 4800 for a good 50hr before they can be sped up again. Despite what people think about these they run best with a small amount of carbon built up especially around the inner chamber where the gauze is around the turbulance plate at the bottom of the atomiser. When you clean them fully or use them from new for the first time this is why they dont burn right for about 50hr. They dont like too much carbon build up but nor do they like none. Webasto and Eberspacher know this btw thats why they have a cleaning setting now on the boats and lorries. The cleaning setting purposely gives it a rich wet burn cycle for 8 mins then roasts the thing for 3 mins then roasts it again for one minute then shuts off and restarts then sits exacly half way for 5 mins on the next start up. Hope this helps Edit: I forgot to point out on this reply that when you put the heater in a "cleaning" cycle on the newer models in lorries and boats it automatically runs the high speed fan at a heavily reduced rpm as it takes into account that you might be doing the clean cycle because it has a choppy start up. Interestingly what it does is turn the plug out at the usual temp in the start up cycle but there is a delay from them about 20 seconds before it soft ramps the fan RPM up to max.
@darrien28 Жыл бұрын
Oh My Goodness! I have been hunting for MONTHS about how to stop my one of these, from fouling. I'm no mechanic, but I suspected there was a relationship between the hertz and the fan speed that was causing my issue. This is the first resource that I've found that showed a logical, simple, approach to sort the tuning...that anyone could do with a spare half hour or so. So - THANK YOU VERY MUCH! :D :D :D :D
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome, Sir 👍👍
@gordonmitchell729 Жыл бұрын
I have watched your video and followed along for my heater. With the minimum fan from 1,500 to 2.500 and the maximum at 5,000 rpm, I adjusted my low hz to 1.2 and the high hz down from 5,5 to 3.6 when I got the 2 red bars back. All appears to be okay, so I will see how it goes for a while. Many thanks for doing this video.
@CharredSteak Жыл бұрын
From what I've read, I'd be careful running the fan at 5k. 4500 is as high as I have mine set
@gordonmitchell729 Жыл бұрын
@@CharredSteak good advice thank you. I have reduced the speed and it’s working better. Too much air meant that the device was putting out cooler air and now it is hotter but still safe for the casing. I have the heater on for about 16 hours each day at 1.3 and I am content with it. Thanks again friend.
@CharredSteak Жыл бұрын
@@gordonmitchell729 Absolutely man, hopefully it'll have the motor lasting longer too
@allangoldsmith2845 ай бұрын
Thank you for your explanation. One problem I have is in what I assume are fast forwards and can't work out what you are pressing. I haven't a clue what code 1688 meant and how you got there. There is nothing on the screen with that number. As a teacher of electronics I have learnt to go slow and assume nothing
@gordonmitchell7295 ай бұрын
@@allangoldsmith284 I will go through my notes and hopefully I will have the details. It was a year ago when I placed the text here. I will get back to you if I can recreate the readings
@clifficus Жыл бұрын
Stumbled across your video as I’ve just bought one but haven’t installed it my small workshop/shed, was gonna buy one 3 years ago for my old camper van but didn’t, so have seen hundreds of vids, was amazed at your quiet unassuming but knowledgeable presentation, blown away actually, instantly subbed and looking forward to your next blast of knowledge 👍😃
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Thanks Cliff, I'm glad I could be of help. Properly tuned, these will run for a couple of years before the motor needs replacing when the brushes wear out. When I say a couple of years, I run mine probably 16 hours a day from the end of November to the end of March which is over 3,800 hours. I'll cover the installation in the next video and the servicing in the one after that.
@Zekerose Жыл бұрын
New subscriber. I ordered a heater, don’t have it yet, and I’ve been watching videos on them and I really liked your video. Straightforward, great knowledge, and a great way of explaining the info. Again thank you!!
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
WOW, I didn't think it made any sense (as per usual). I'm glad you understood it 😁😁
@memikel1489 Жыл бұрын
That was the best advice out there on the Chinese diesel heaters can't wait for your next video on the pump 👍👍
@foxy1960 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, I have 2 of these , one in my van and just about to install one in my house. I will be using your video to tune them now. Many thanks
@ridgerider7402 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony, loving mine, will definitely have a play with its settings now. Intrigued with your fuel pump upgrade, I have mine hanging on some string which has dulled down the harsh clicking 100%
@oojimmyflip Жыл бұрын
built a box around my pump with 6mm plywood with a hole top and bottom for the fuel lines and wiring to go through, then I used 4 cup hooks to hang the box on 6mm bungee chord attached to 4 more cup hooks on the roof of the wall mounting box, cannot hear the pump clicking inside the wall box mounted to my outside wall of my house or indoors. my hearing is so sharp I can hear a pin drop outside at night. I have to sleep with earplugs in and I still wake up if I hear a noise outside through the earplugs. The pump is silent.
@julias-shed Жыл бұрын
That’s pretty good explanation of how to tune it. My 5kw is on a max of 3.3 at the moment as my fan speed is 4600 max I didn’t think they liked 5000 but it sounds like yours has lasted okay so might push it higher. I’ve had terrible carbon in mine but its getting better now the mixture is leaner. Thanks for the video.
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
They will all go to 5000rpm but different manufacturers have different default values that get them all running in the test room. Different altitudes and air conditions need different air/fuel mixtures so the manufacturer of yours might have been at a different altitude or in a vacuum 😁 My suggestion is, strip it down and clean it. I will be doing a video on it, it's not hard.
@julias-shed Жыл бұрын
@@Vortecks I have just cleaned it. As I said it's getting better as the mixture is leaned out. It did start off as an 8kw with the usual over the top settings so it's taken a while to get it to a decent setup. I wish I'd seen your video a year ago it would have saved a lot of stress 😀
@Dirt-Diggler Жыл бұрын
@@julias-shed that's another issue with Chinese knock offs, they lie ! There is not or ever has been an 8 KW 😏 these are copies of the eber 2KW and 5KW heaters, the Chinese fall into the group who think more fuel equals more heat, 8KW is just a 5KW run at a higher pump dose rate and "sometimes" a higher fan speed, this either soots up or the fan bearings go, usually because the brush end bearing gets full of brush dust due to the motor overspending and prematurely wearing out the brushes 👍
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
@@Dirt-Diggler Some mainboards & LCDs allow a fan speed of 5500 RPM with an increased pump speed. I might be wrong, but I think these are the ones marketed as the 8kW version. Last year, I tested a 5kW which goes to 5500 RPM and it will just about hold combustion at 5500 RPM and 5.3hz. The only trouble is, some of the combustion happens outside the flame tube and goes directly into the exhaust and the exhaust was hitting 280C. It 'might' be the equivalent of 8kW in total but there's probably 3kW which is directly pumped into the exhaust. Very dangerous.
@bigduphusaj16210 ай бұрын
they dont like 5000 none of them do. The 5000 is only for a badly made machine. The startup sequence rpm ramp speed on 5000 runs them to lean full stop. From the 55deg mark when the plug extinguishes and it ramps up the fan speed to max because it thinks its lit, you are merely running lean as the air in the AFR spikes massively. This has been proven by countless people with proper measuring devices. The 5000 setting automatically sets the start up algorythim to ramp the the fan up quicker than it does on any other setting so its not just the max rpm effected. Anyone whos heater can run on 5000 no problem still wants to back it off a bit as it saves the plugs. i can get boats doing 3-5yr on these cheap copies and 5-7yr on the original plug on the genuine ones and i diall the smoke and smell out of them within minutes.
@ringonotts Жыл бұрын
Meh - that ticking sound is the sound of warmth and peace :) If i don't hear the ticking i wake up!!! Nice one Tony - keep up the excellent work! Thanks, Ringo
@rusty911s2 Жыл бұрын
I've just installed one of these and will tune as you suggest, thank you. Mine's in a large workshop so space not massive issue so my next step is to try playing with exhaust heat exchanging. I appreciate that whatever I do can't create any more back-pressure than the supplied exhaust tubing, but my thought / hope is that extracting heat from the exhaust will drop pressure if anything (it's effectively a charge intercooler) whilst enabling the harvest of some waste exhaust heat.
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Yes, using the exhaust as a heat exchanger is something I want to improve although I think I've got as much as I can out of it. I'm using 32mm (I think) copper tubing which I had to silver solder together. As long as you tune the heater again after you've connected it, you'll be fine. Mine inevitably does produce a small amount of back pressure but it's been running for over 12 months like that and zero build-up.
@rusty911s2 Жыл бұрын
@@Vortecks Interesting, have you got that on a YT Vid? Would love to see what you've done. I've got a few ideas but annoyingly only thought about doing something after the heater was installed, so although I have options, they're not unlimited.
@TheDirtyChef8 ай бұрын
So glad to have found this video. I have been wondering about fine tuning these units. I use one to keep my bedroom nice and warm but I have noticed it really goes through a lot of fuel on high and this video has shown me that I can really reduce my consumption and get the same heat and even better air flow in the room.
@wrxs1781 Жыл бұрын
After running my heater all winter on factory setting, I get great results, make sure the exhaust is in a downward slant, this is where the carbon or soot buildup starts. And the most important thing is "leave it alone so you don't burn your house down"
@AJB2K3 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see that someone was able to make good use of theses heaters and taken the time to tune it as I've seen several of them fail (Julian Illiet had one fail)
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
It does take some thinking about but they're just an engine that relies on air and fuel. Being an ex car mechanic helped understand where it was going wrong. I've wanted to shout at Julian when I saw the smoke coming from his, I get zero smoke on startup or shutdown.
@Dirt-Diggler Жыл бұрын
At last someone who understands AFR ! Appart from davidmcluckie and john mck 47 your the only YTer who even starts to understand it, soo many 5min experts out there 🙄 The original webasto and ebers didn't allow owners to sod about with pump speed and fan speed, they were set at the factory to give heat with a low ex emissions, something the Chinese dont really care about all that much. 90% of issues i fix are sooting up because owners fiddle with the settings or the base settings are way off, the older blue controller would let you set dose rate up to 8Htz with a max fan speed of 5500 rpm, some would only allow 5.6htz at the same rpm so no wonder they get messed up and sooty 🙄 after a clean out i reset the controller and tell owners to use the temp settings and stop messing with the dose rate 😏 or buy a decent make, webasto and eber obv, mikuni are ok, autotherm/plannar or the lavana pro series 👍 Really enjoyed that vid chap 👍 looking forward to a few more on the subject from ya 😎
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I noticed that there are a lot of people who just want to jump on the bandwagon to get a video published, it was pissing me off that there's not much info on how to use them properly so I decided to start the series. There are a lot of bad tips on how to use them and very little in the way of safety. I wish I could find the video where someone said to go into the settings, max everything out and it runs much hotter 😒 I've got every controller & mainboard there is out there now, I kept buying them from China. I was considering buying the afterburner buy it seemed like a lot of money for loads of features I wouldn't use so....... I built my own. If you go to 8:14 you can see the TX part of it on the right but I'll cover that in another video 😉
@Dirt-Diggler Жыл бұрын
@@Vortecks I've gone the total opposite from the afterburner in that all i have is an on off switch with remote activation and a normal 2 wire stat in the van but my own build is a rather old mikuni i saved and refurbished from a narrow boat who changed it for a cheap Chinese unit cos it was £15 cheaper than servicing the heater he already owned 🙄 his loss my gain 😎 i got paid to change in the new unit and got to keep the old one, i removed a webasto from my van and use that for back up heat in winter at home 👍
@FuttBuckerByMutt9 ай бұрын
What I’ve noticed with the heater is the intake “filter” is tiny. As a gear head and diesel mechanic I’d imagine that filter may be restricting the air which could cause excessive soot or carbon build up. I modified mine and it appears to run significantly better at its highest temperature setting
@lookinin123 Жыл бұрын
I love the tinkering and tweaking of this heater. I wonder if you were able to get the dose rate so low because you're closer to sea level. I'm over a 1000' ASL and I can't go any lower than 4.5 Ghz. Of course, the incoming air temperature might have an effect on the heat exchanger, too. Thanks for taking the time to post this. 👍
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Yes, there are a lot of factors which mean you have a high pump rate - barometric air pressure, air temperature, the location of your pump in relation to the heater (some people have it 3-4ft below) blocked fuel filter, water/condensation in the fuel or very high humidity. FYI I'm 500' ASL where I am. Obviously, very cold temperatures makes diesel freeze or at least 'gum up' if the tank is outside.
@bigduphusaj16210 ай бұрын
dont go too low AFR as they go through plugs. Regardless of fan speed if you dont run enough fuel through them they burn plugs up and the mesh doesn't last long. If its running ideal AFR wise you will be able to run the heater at a lower normal main menu Hz setting as it will be kicking out more heat for each normal heat Hz setting so you need to undertand that leaning out AFR doeant always equate to less fuel used per heat unit kicked out.
@alibro7512 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate I'd never heard of these (not the cheap ones anyway) until I saw this vid. I'm going to pull the one out of my scrap Freelander and see if I can use it cos me garage is Baltic!!!. 5kWh heat for 45p (half litre of 28 sec kerosene @ 90p per litre) instead of 1kW for 38p of leccy.
@aayt02 Жыл бұрын
Should be a way better heater than the chinese ones, i believe the land rover ones are webasto.
@wazza33racer Жыл бұрын
Its great that there is even a function in the controls to adjust the unit for best results. Great info, thanks. Subbed. I live in Australia, and my retail natural gas costs AUD $20 per kw/hr of heat. Diesel is AUD $2.00 per liter and makes 12 kw/hr of heat........there is no comparison.
@mathewemy Жыл бұрын
Might want to look at your math. MJ in Vic is 3.52c and supply charge .83c per day. Diesel is around $2 so .0352 X 38 is $1.33. QLD at .06 is $2.28 but who needs much heating up there.
@wazza33racer Жыл бұрын
@@mathewemy I did the math........converted the joules into watts etc. The thing that bumps it up a lot, is the supply charge. For a typical residential user with relatively low volume of gas, the fixed supply charge really ups the overall cost per kw/hr of heat. There are no options to avoid that supply charge other than to have the service disconnected. Furthermore, as natural gas is gobbled up by the expanding number of gas turbines being used to supplement renewables during night time and especially wind droughts.....the price is only going to go up, and up and up. Gas turbines are horribly inefficient at replacing natural gas as a heat source in heating applications........they need to burn 3 times as much to provide the same heat energy............but since they are paying a tiny fraction of the price, they dont care about the waste of energy.
@e-bikerbulgaria Жыл бұрын
Often check the prices of these China heaters view to purchase. Some very interesting data you found there Tony. 👍👍👍👍👍
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
They are cheap if you don't get conned by things like "8kW" which doesn't exist. I'm not using any of the parts that came with the heater now, all I've got it the heater and loom, the rest of it is custom made.
@englishrupe01 Жыл бұрын
If you want one right now, i just got a complete 5kW kit off AliEx Vevor Bestautos store for 70 dollars, including delivery in 7 days. It came in 2 days. Amazing. Still available at this price right now. Can't go wrong.
@ovalwingnut10 ай бұрын
You R the "Chinese Heater Whisperer". Thank you. Cheers from So.Calif.USA 3rd House on the Right.
@THerd-um5tl8 ай бұрын
I have no doubt this is good information, I just wish I could understand what you're saying. It's virtually unintelligible.
@3dphillo3966 ай бұрын
Another way to get less fuel to the heater is get a smaller pump. My 2kw came with 18.5 written on it. My 5 & 8kw came with 22 written on it. This will help those that have a different controller and can't adjust the Hertz or fan speed.
@HotNoob Жыл бұрын
wow, i replaced mine a few weeks ago... just tuned it and it was waaaaayyy off. i guess this explains why the exhaust on my new one was running signicantly hotter than my old one. we'll see if it soots up :P i went from 5.5hz to 2.8hz, and the bottom one stayed at 1.4hz, but i increased the low end fan a bit.
@mrpdude84 Жыл бұрын
Not long had mine. set at 1.2hz it flicks between 1 red and no red bars. I figured it may be due to the fan speed difference, like a poor A/F mix. upped my min fan speed to 2600 and it struggled to fire up. had to choke the inlet a couple of time to get the flame lit. lowering it back down to 1600 and it fired up. but still not operating at full temperature. Will be running on kerosene soon, so hopefully that burns clean enough to prevent any coking
@kareljansen3992 Жыл бұрын
I have the same problem, I guess ours doenst like to get to low in temperature, my stats are 1.1 at 1500 rpm and 3.5 at 4000 rpm works alright!
@mrpdude84 Жыл бұрын
@@kareljansen3992 after much tweaking I still have to choke it to start. I think a combination of lots of running at 1.2hz and a one off stint with a couple of liters of veggie oil has sooted up the mesh thing, I'll get it apart at some point and see what the insides look like. Before the veggie oil it ran fine, albeit at a lower temperature.
@Xanthro2 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've been looking at one of these for a van build since I found out about them.
@danielc6034 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this guide! I found the lowest RPM setting doesn't do anything, the higher RPM seems to change the min and max fan speed.
@paulleeson1218 Жыл бұрын
1/3rd more efficiency is not to be sniffed at, even if you had the sniffles, Looking forward to the next vid on these cos I'm thinking of getting one.
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. Mine is costing me £2 per day to heat 2 rooms now 😁
@englishrupe01 Жыл бұрын
As i just wrote above, if you want one right now, i just got a complete 5kW kit off AliEx Vevor Bestautos store for 70 dollars, including delivery in 7 days. It came in 2 days. Amazing. Still available at this price right now. Don't forget to get the 5 dollars off coupon, if you get it. Can't go wrong at that price.
@martyb37837 ай бұрын
This is a very helpful video. Thanks for making it!
@clearprop Жыл бұрын
Great stuff - very useful. Thanks so much for uploading. 🙂
@stealthserfer8221 Жыл бұрын
actually the first p for pump speed is the startup pump speed to heat it up. also it runs better with the fan speed set at 5500 instead of 5000. i set my glowplug to 4 out of 6 and my maximum pump speed to 5 instead of 5.5. my startup pump speed is set at 1.8. with that being said it never smokes on startup and running temperature. ive ran about 40 litres so far and it runs great
@bigduphusaj16210 ай бұрын
5500 is wild mate for any of them. You will burn pluga out per 3 month
@Dave64track Жыл бұрын
This sounds like a great investment with the current fuel prices and it's a lot quieter than other installs I have seen with your tuning of the system. I'm looking forward to your next video as I'm thinking about getting one of these in the future.
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
With very careful planning, it's very quiet in comparison. There are 4 sources of noise: The inlet, exhaust, heat outlet and the fan motor. I'll go through all of them when I can get my head around explaining it.
@timkelly5602 Жыл бұрын
i bought one recently and the ability to tune simply isn't in the controller, apparently there was a shortage of the above type controller, mine has a spanner icon instead of the cog wheel icon... not sure if that is the difference but probably be best to avoid the spanner version... i imagine the ore expensive heaters will still have this ability...
@oojimmyflip Жыл бұрын
Dont leave it until winter they will double in price by then.
@oojimmyflip Жыл бұрын
@@timkelly5602 I changed all my ecus and controllers to the Blue controllers with the led remote controls they are easy to use and give you readings of the core temperature and voltage on the remote fobs screen. they have a range of about 30 feet and use less complicated and cheaper tripple A batteries which last about a year. The blue controller has a matching Blue motherboard/ecu for the Heater and it is identifiyable by the silver Bi-metalic strip that crosses the blue coloured circuit board from one side to the other.
@bigduphusaj16210 ай бұрын
they can be made very economical especially running two or muliples at a lower setting like in boats. Im a boat builder ive done hundreads of the genuine ones and maybe 30 to 40 chinese copies. I like the guy in the vid but i dont think his figures are correct and i think his heater has burned its mesh on the inside of the burner out to the point it runs at settings it shouldnt. Absolutely NO way is any fully working 5 or 8kw branded copy heater running at AFR menu 1.2hz and 2500rpm. You will instantly hit sub 110deg on any fully functioning heater even at 1.6hz if you go over about 2000rpm on the slow fan speed setting. You do need to up the stock 1500rpm speed by about 200rpm to get it running good if you extend ducting and exhausts to the limit but to gave a heater run at 2000rpm and 1.2Hz means its mesh is gone and atomiser is cheap junk. Ive no idea how hes got it to stay above 100deg burner temp at 2500 low 1.2.
@tommyp11249 ай бұрын
I run mine on 0.8Hz and 1500RPM. It shows only 1 red bar or no red bar at all when it's below 0*C but never had any issue with carbon buildup. However running at around 3Hz or above without adjusting max Hz did indeed extinguished the heater and made impossible to reignite. Fortunately I was able to make it run again by blowing some air with industrial vacuum cleaner thru exhaust pipe and them pull the air when the heater was trying to ignite.
@EnglishTurbines Жыл бұрын
Why don't you try running it on Paraffin Tony...?..Back in 1962, they were all the rage.. Paraffin is a purified form of Diesel. Way cleaner. Esso Blue anyone?...I can remember Pink Paraffin also....Just a wick and mesh burner. No blowers or fans, just gravity fed paraffin...😳😳😮😮😏😏🇬🇧
@DigBipper188 Жыл бұрын
Could even be worth trying different fuels anyway to see what's the cleanest and most efficient between waste oil, kerosene, parafin, diesel, JET-A1 and so on... or if a blend of fuels / fuel oils is better....
@EnglishTurbines Жыл бұрын
@@DigBipper188 I can tell you the answer. Kerosine (Paraffin) has the highest calorific value of all of them. This is why it's used in Gas Turbine engines...Jet Petrol or Jet A1is very refined Kerosine with the sodium removed. Plain Paraffin is the obvious fuel for this heater...It may be a bit more expensive than Diesel though...🤔😳😳🇬🇧
@calderdale6795 Жыл бұрын
@@EnglishTurbines Many years ago we used straight diesel to fuel 8 Rolls Royce Avons running through English Electric power turbines to EE hydrogen cooled alternators with SSS clutches to enable synchronous compensation. We had to modify the aero cans to reduce smoke emissions , otherwise they worked well and were good for 120 MW within about 10 mins from barring speed. All gone now because they were horrendously expensive to run. We could do with them now for peak lopping !
@EnglishTurbines Жыл бұрын
@@calderdale6795 Lol, yes, diesel is very oily and burns dirty...Agreed, our MPs are idiots for ignoring our INDEPENDENT energy needs. I wouldn't pay them in Chocolate buttons TBH....🤔😳😏😏🇬🇧
@calderdale6795 Жыл бұрын
@@EnglishTurbines Would you believe , 30 years ago we produced a paper advocating the use of high efficiency ( over 40% ) coal burners with stack scrubbers over the use of gas , which could even then be burnt efficiently in domestic use. We also came up with a general plan , with costing , to produce a bunded tidal barrage for the Severn ( very high tidal range ) using Peltham Wheel reversing turbines. The bean counters threw it all out and later built gas fired combined cycle units because it was cheap , and needed less manpower. Back then energy self sufficiency was a must , and the french DC link didn’t work very well. We also had our own very safe AGR (advanced gas cooled ) nuclear plant. Don’t get me going on fracking !
@andrewbailey79995 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Seems like I'll have to do this on mine. Although I have a different style of controller, so it might take a bit of figuring out...
@YaYaPJ7 ай бұрын
if you mix kerosene into your diesel, it will burn cleaner and clean out. also if you do one tank with some heat or high octane additive. that will also help clean out and burn a bit hotter. Also when tuning, other things to keep in mind is elevation and outside temp... I was in -20 the other day and it wont keep up if the fan keeps it too cold.
@stevecarlisle33235 ай бұрын
I run 5 CDH heaters, and all heaters have run very well, producing lots of heat at all settings. Any setting under 3 will produce sooting, and eventual failure to ignite. Looking at your burn chamber, I would guess it has been run at the lower end of the fuel setting.
@rossallen738 Жыл бұрын
Mine had been running great for quite awhile. Then we got some extreme temperatures and I think the gummed up diesel clogged some things. I cleaned everything out the best way I knew how. Finally got it to start again. It ran for a few days. Woke up this morning to a chilly home. Noticed the diesel heater had stopped working again. I pulled it all apart, cleaned it up and it fired up immediately. Thought all was well, but then I noticed the combustion chamber temperature was steadily dropping 2 Celsius (from 176 ish) every 10 minutes. I finally turned it off at 138 C and took it apart again. It has just as much soot as it did over the few days that it has been running since I cleaned it last. Prior to that one temperature drop, it had been running near mint. No carbon buildup to be seen.... I'm currently lost as to what is wrong. I have no idea why it's suddenly plaguing me with issues now...
@SuperBlobsterManАй бұрын
I use a small bit of diesel additive that has cetane boost. I've never had issues with smoke.
@Dantheearman6 ай бұрын
It was tuned from the factory for a 18ml pump. You’ve been provided with a 22ml pump. That is why the settings are so far off!
@bigduphusaj16210 ай бұрын
Hi mate i apreciate you doing a vid as im looking for one i can send about to show whats going on. However, you make far too many mistakes for anyone to take this as gospel. Firstly i agree if you are running extra exhaust sections and longer ducting then it will especially need the low speed side of things. However coming down from an ideal contoller AFR setting menu from 1.6 to 1.2Hz on the fueling alone is dodgy nevermind running the fans at 2500 to keep the thing in the 130 deg burner temp zone. Thats a junk machine if you can get they settings to run. Other issue is your recommendations for max rpm max HZ and general confusion. As a boat builder thats done hundreads of these now and at least 30 or so chinese copies the basics are this. A 5kw is the same as the 8kw burner, pcb & plug wise. The ones sold as 5kw didnt quite make the grade as the 8kw that would run on the controller set to 5.5 and 4800-5000rpm. The 5kw copy ones were the identical heater only they couldnt get them started or running good at 5.5hz and 4800-5000rpm so they got binned in the 5kw bin. Now the tricky bit is it could just be the quality of the plug installed from new or on a plug change that would mean your heater sold as a 8kw that ran no sweat at 5.5 would barely run at 4.5-5hz just because of a plug change. Now if your plug & atomiser on the refit is lesser quality they will need to be set at the settings you described in the this vid. The very settings that would signify poor quality plug and atomiser mesh. The further you need to deviate from 5.5hz and 4800rpm on the 5&8kw burner models then the poorer the plug and poorer made your machine is. Even with a long exhaust and intake run 2500rpm at even the higher 1.6hz stock setting would signify you have mesh issues and the burner is toast. You should not be able to run anything on these bigger bodied 5&8kw heaters at 2500rpm on the low setting, that should instantly cool and have the burner down at 100deg barely one red bar. Theres something off with your figures or your heater mate so for that reason i dont think this vid is trustworthy at all for a begginer eapecially. These are easy to tune you made it sound hard. If you can get the low hz and rpm to 1.5-1.7hz and have the fan low set to 1500-1700 then you are dialled and expect 120-130deg burner temps. Do that then set the high speed so the burner temp will reach a minimum of 165deg with the Hz set between 4.4 and 5.8max and 4600-5000 rpm. Anything outside these ranges WILL affect plug life and carbon build up and bearings. Cheers.
@galaxy5am987 Жыл бұрын
In your next video, could you please show your installation invluding which heater you are using. Thanks alot.
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
I've got to cover everything in sections, people don't like to see everything at once. Next time, I'll be covering the pump. It's just a standard 5kW diesel heater, they're everywhere and they're all the same. Don't be conned by the 8kW version, there is no such thing. It's just a 5kW with an 8kW badge.
@Charlemagne1367 Жыл бұрын
Bloody brilliant. 🥳 Got one in my van. Thank you for setting your mind to these heaters 😁 Is that one of James's fuel pumps 🤔
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Yes mate, it's one of his pumps from when he first started doing them. He's grown the range now so I really hope his sales rocket when I release his details.
@johnmalone5608 Жыл бұрын
Any links to the fuel pump please.....if the guy can handle the orders 😉
@flybobbie14498 ай бұрын
I have one in a van and just bought one for domestic. I was interested in using a Peristaltic Pump instead of the noisy pump. Although in van with plenty of insulation can barely hear it.
@jasonsweet18685 ай бұрын
I'm going to have to watch this a few times to get me head round it but thanks a lot liked and subbed I will check out any other vids now
@tbeardmore1 Жыл бұрын
run on kerrosean ,no deposites or soot absolutely as clean as new in the chamber after 15 mts of running ,burns hotter too
@ciocancatalin1043 Жыл бұрын
This thing don't damage the heater?
@harryharry83845 ай бұрын
oh dear.... the fan speed increases quite Sharpley when you adjust the fuel up while the heater is running for a set pre programmed period of time then reverts back to what it was set at and you must then adjust the fan speed to the new fuel setting..... its a safety thing not a proportional thing....
@TurnFullCircle20 күн бұрын
great info..thank ypu very much.
@Lordlindef10 ай бұрын
Fan low 2200 and high ibhave 4200. Get out more heated air. But the same same. Saves some watt only. And it burns litle hotter
@aspectcarl Жыл бұрын
Ah this great, bought 5~8kw unit for my garage a couple of weeks ago, it's brilliant but the instructions are terrible. Ordered the monoxide detector with it 🙂
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
The instructions are bloody useless. Hopefully, I'll be able to fill in the massive gaps on how to use them, clean them and set them up for perfection 😉
@Dirt-Diggler Жыл бұрын
@@Vortecks i quite enjoy a "chinglish" set of instructions 👍 usually they are funny as fook 🤣 👍
@paulshockieuk26515 ай бұрын
That's a nice lcd screen..so how youtube works is to actually see how its done
@dr_jaymz Жыл бұрын
I have a 5kw version and I haven't had issues with it sooting up or smoking. The mixture is about right. After last season there was little build up and it wasn't black more grey. My fuel tank is about 4ft below the unit and it makes me wonder if the height you draw the fuel affects fueling. I already know that if your tank is above the pump it does flood through. Or maybe I was just lucky.
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Yes, having the pump lower down reduces fuel delivery. If you put the pump any higher, you'll probably find that it starts choking it. I think you were lucky with the placement of everything, so don't change a thing 😁
@dr_jaymz Жыл бұрын
@@Vortecks I screwed it to the wall so it isn't going anywhere - but I think its the fuel head height that matters. The other thing that can affect it is any changes to the inlet and exhaust circuit. So for example, adding a different silencer or changing the pipe length may reduce the air mass and make it over rich. But also as the combustion chamber soot's up it may also cause it to over fuel and I bet that will be a positive feedback of doom. As they have no mixture control they probably should be set up to be quite lean. I saw someone using a lambda probe to get 15:1 at which point it smokes - I think it should be closer to 20:1, I think that 15:1 only really applies to fixed volume combustion like a cylinder than a flame in a tube where you will have an excess of oxygen.
@dr_jaymz Жыл бұрын
@@Vortecks What I could do is get one of those pumps and pump the fuel 1ft uphill and then 6ft uphill and measure the fuel delivered in 10 mins say.
@Coladudetje Жыл бұрын
Also 5kw heater, Ive read before 3.6-3.8 hz is most efficient in other videos, i also tested it out it saves fuel and theres a very slight black smoke i see out of chimney when u got it at 5-5.5hz. I just almost got mad now from fuel pump noises. Theres also a very good method of tuning when u buy some cheap chinese co meter and if you put it at high you see like 10k ppm and at low 1000 ppm and when its arround 3.6 hz you get 400 ppm...
@philnoel5839 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, But a little to fast for us simple folk. Well me anyway. Will be in touch when i get mine up and running .
@masterupholsterers Жыл бұрын
👍keep rocking on man 👍👍👍
@curtis2742 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Excellent advice about the settings. Give or take a few factors, those are good presents. I find that mine requires a little adjusting throughout the heating season. Cow tipping high winds and barometric pressure and every now and again the fuel isn't what it should be. Mine is running 24/7 until spring. Every 30 hrs I'll turn it all the way up for 20-30 minutes and then back to whatever setting is comfortable. Make it a habit to continually remind the sheeple about safety and good old fashion common sense. Otherwise, we all know what happened to other great products that got into the hands of the clueless. Thank you for sharing .
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Yes, barometric pressure is the possible cause of 90% of the sooting. The manufacturers set a default value which makes them run in their location but that setting doesn't work for most people. Unfortunately, Curtis...... common sense no longer exists but I will keep reminding people of the dangers 😉
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
If it's orange, it's probably biodiesel or red diesel that's had the dye removed.
@Dirt-Diggler Жыл бұрын
@@Only-Memories-In-The-End could be the winter diesel additives 🤔 winter diesel has antiwaxing additives compared to summer diesel 🤞 hopefully they haven't had red in the tank , try explaining to DVSA it was the fuel stations fault when they dip your tank 🙄 👍😁👍
@martinmclaren2833 Жыл бұрын
sheeple? This is a video about diesel heaters not the new world order!
@leeevans1874 Жыл бұрын
I've found a the low end of these settings I get higher CO readings from the exhaust and fumes start to smell , do you think the rpm of the fan is cooling the flame zone + pushing the unburnt fuel out of the chamber to quickly ?
@crustysherrifsbadge Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting, possibly the neatest home install I've seen so far. I've looked at the comments and can't see any more info on the fuel pump, are they available to buy? I plan on using mine to heat a large kitchen, I would be interested to see how you heat more than one room with a single unit :)
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
It's embarrassing but I might show it. I've used the splitter tube and hung 2 lengths of insulated 80mm tubing across the ceiling because I can't gain access above it. Come the spring, I'll simply take it down, compress the tubing back into the box..... job done. We have to make sacrifices to affordably keep warm.
@crustysherrifsbadge Жыл бұрын
I’ve made a plywood box for the heater, located it on the patio, plan to run the flexi pipe through the wall and vent from under the kitchen unit kick boards. Desperately seeking a quiet fuel pump.
@darrien28 Жыл бұрын
that's simply practical and brilliant. Sure you're not a Kiwi? *chuckle @@Vortecks
@skysurferuk Жыл бұрын
First! Awesome! Also I have one of these, & have often wondered. CO detector directly in the exhaust? Nada.
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
If you put it directly in the exhaust, it'll be going off constantly. I measure at around 500mm from the exhaust where it has time to mix with air. These are technically a jet engine without the compressor and no jet engine on earth would pass any CO tests like that.
@man.i.literally.failed67722 ай бұрын
My control panel is like yours but looks like a series 1 type, I can't seem to get into menus etc., I've had 3 heaters in 16 months, they run for 100hrs than blow white smoke, now my lowest Hertz is 0.5 and goes to 2.5, my current heater just started smoking, so I forced it to get it started, at one stage it back fired like it made a popping sound from the muffler, now it's fine, BUT everyone is saying don't run them on low for too long.?? my last 2 they had a lot of carbon after 80-100 hrs of use on low
@scattkiwiman Жыл бұрын
interesting. I wonder, could it be fine tuned with a lamba sensor like they use for car exhausts (of course you should know the afr ratio for this type of fuel)
@monkeymagic4555 Жыл бұрын
You are in a flat are you not? what have you done exactly in regards of the exhaust? presuming through the wall somehow can you share a pic/video and explanation in another video much appreciated. Good thinking :)
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Yes mate, I'm in a flat. I'll cover all the exhaust outlet in another video. I can't just make one long video, people never watch them and it does take hours to make them.
@monkeymagic4555 Жыл бұрын
@@Vortecks good stuff interested to see how you have went about it, As i bought one 3 yrs ago with the intention of using it for this but never quite decided on exactly how/where in regards of fitment
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
@@monkeymagic4555 Just as an indicator - I used aluminium and fire cement to line an air-brick. Then, I put a plate inside with a fan to force the exhaust outside. Because my exhaust is around 6ft long, the exhaust exit point is only 50C maximum. All the heat from the exhaust is radiated into the kitchen.
@narrowgoat-scout8 ай бұрын
That really was helpful. Cheers 👍🔥
@S5UPERCHARGED Жыл бұрын
Does anyone else's control unit display the pulse rate in numbers 1 - 10 instead of actual Hz?? Is there any way to change this?
@CoachMcCabe Жыл бұрын
Will the settings save or so I have to do it every time I use it? It will not be plugged into a power source all the time…
@jamesemery1 Жыл бұрын
I've already come across the silent pump for these heaters worth every penny the ticking drove me mad
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Excellent mate, it makes a massive difference 😉
@Dirt-Diggler Жыл бұрын
Thing is these were designed to be fitted outside, no idea when it became the norm to fit it all inside, I've been using these heaters for over 25 years and never had an issue TBH but i allways fit the pump outside on a bobbin mount ( classic mini exhaust mount) , mind you the better made pumps are quieter in operation 👍
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
@@Dirt-Diggler If I didn't live in a flat, I'd fit the whole lot outside in an insulated box. We have to do what we have to do in order to affordably stay warm mate.
@Dirt-Diggler Жыл бұрын
@@Vortecks yeah it's all a compromise i know 👍 they're not designed to be used in a house just lorrys and coaches but needs must and all that 😊👍 I know these burn about 250ml per hour on low so that's about 45p per hour on normal diesel, is that good compaired to electric heating ? Mind you with electric constantly going up it only get cheaper by comparison 👍
@mikeakerstrom1667 Жыл бұрын
Can you share where you got the silent pump?
@asgsxr7 ай бұрын
Really helpful video. Thank you. I had previously stripped down, cleaned and rebuilt my heater 6 times due to it running too lean and thus being overwhelmed by carbon build up. Not anymore thanks to this information! FYI: 8kw heater set at 5.2Hz (default 5.5Hz) and Min. fan speed now set at 2000RPM and Max. at 5000RPM (1650RPM and 4500RPM were the defaults). Now works a charm and havn't needed to clean it since, even running at low speeds all day. But from reading other's comments on fan speed, it seems that I should be at 4500?? to make it last longer + higher temp? I am at sea level (+1m) if that makes any difference, i don't know.
@hrhsii24 ай бұрын
In summary Low: Pump 1.2Hz Fan 2500RPM High: Pump 3.6Hz Fan 5000RPM
@GatorOverland8 ай бұрын
Great video! if the power is removed/interrupted from the heater will the adjusted settings memory be lost and return to default settings? or does the memory store and the adjusted settings are still present after power is restored. Thanks!
@idaveuk Жыл бұрын
Great tony I have just got mine not set up yet very very interested about the upgrades you done to yours keep us updated cheers
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
I will mate. Once you set them up properly, they'll run maintenance free for a couple of years before you have to change the fan motor.
@JohnnyVersnachie7 ай бұрын
OMG!!! You sound like Rob Halford! \m/
@jeffclark50247 ай бұрын
You earned a subscriber here! I just bought my second one of these heaters. I have a bit of an out there idea for a project with one of these.. Thinking of trying to convert one to a waste oil heater. But instead of pumping the oil into the heater itself I’d pump it to a separate external burn chamber and route what would be the heat output side into a pipe to be the combustion air for the waste oil. Wondering if the temperature sensor is the main or only sensor I would need to move or “fool” to achieve this unit essentially regulating a fire that’s not contained in the unit. I know this is crazy talk but I’ve pondered it a while and I’m a bit of a fabricator. Any thoughts on possible error codes or problems I would come across that would shut the unit down. Thanks
@davidfaulkner60087 ай бұрын
found how to reset the PIN....see reply in my original question having played with the settings (5kW heater) I found that, at 4500 RPM the heat gain across the heater is as follows...at 5Hz it is 47 deg C (7 in, 54 out), at 6Hz it is 66 deg C (7 in, 73 out), at 7Hz it is 75 deg C (7 in, 82 out)....I stopped at this point for fear of overheating anything 🤔 Below 4.5 it drops one bar on the display as per the original video.....but increasing that to, say 4.6 although returning the bar on the display and then increasing a further 0.2 as per the video seems to make a dramatic difference to the outlet air temp. which increases as more fuel is added......kind of as expected but up to what point ? so, how does one determine the optimum setting for heat gain across the heater?... presumably - and I dont have a CO meter - the CO will increase as the amount of fuel increases although even at 7Hz there was no visible smoke and no noticeable smell I should add that I am running it on normal domestic heating oil (kerosene)
@andysutils9 ай бұрын
Ahh. You have the same silent pulsing unit as i do :) from a certain Mr James 😁
@jimmybrad156 Жыл бұрын
Top video, very well done. Regarding 1/7 cost of electric heating (@ 9m21s), is this based on a resistive heater or a heat pump/refrigeration heater? Also, what electricity per kw/hr and diesel per litre prices is that based on?
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
It's based on resistive, I'm electric only. I measured it at 46p which is what I'm paying. I know it doesn't take into account the Energy Price Guarantee but that's a rebate and not guaranteed for ever. I pay around £1.68 / litre. Kerosine is much cleaner and cheaper if you can find it, it's around £1.27
@jimmybrad156 Жыл бұрын
@@Vortecks Is that 0.46 GBP per kilowatt-hour?
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
@@jimmybrad156 Yes, sadly.
@concerneddad5561 Жыл бұрын
If your buy a refurb 600ltr IBC you can get a 500ltr minimum delivery of home heating oil, kerosene etc for £0.80 at todays prices from Home Fuels Direct UK this will significantly reduce the running cost. An IBC is approx size of a pallet cubed. Hope this helps. 500Ltr should get you from Oct to Mar 12hrs a day running at setting 3 with a lean burn. If my maths is right.
@stewartgarner-jones92268 ай бұрын
Very helpfull video thank you
@MrZimmaframe Жыл бұрын
Twa... Just kidding m8 😂 , great video, i look forward to the next one.
@stevecarlisle33237 ай бұрын
Interesting, as I run 5 of these heaters, from differant suppliers, and all have been installed following instructions. I run these on fuel station diesel. I am not sure whats going on with your heaters, But its out of the normal.
@airtimeal87444 ай бұрын
I would really like to change settings as you have however i found out that my vevor 5kw heater recently purchased uses this new style controller. Same appearance wise. No hz or speed settings available unfortunately. Very limited functions. Hoping it is set to burn proper and clean but unsure. Any suggestions on purchasing the appropriate parts to have the adjustability ? thanks for the video.
@Tyler.i.81 Жыл бұрын
It's fantastic Tony
@gordonmitchell729 Жыл бұрын
Hi, did you ask about production of the quiet pump? I have ordered my heater and it will arrive in a few days. Your system looks great, so I will see about tuning my 5-8kw when it up and running. Thank you.
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting to hear back from him. He has various models available and also, a marine version for fitting in boats now. As soon as I get the green light, I'll make another video.
@gordonmitchell729 Жыл бұрын
@@Vortecks Excellent; I'll be watching lol. Thank you.
@nilsjohnsen73367 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info👍 Will try this tomorrow. Is urs a 5kw?
@MikeBeaverTruckingLLC5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I can't get mine to even fire up anymore so I can't adjust anything. I just keep getting e-8. It worked for about 2 days, now nothing
@everlast2658 Жыл бұрын
Works good on kerosene but I mix with a bit oil to lubricate the pump
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
I wish I could get kerosene 😒
@ciansweeney52065 ай бұрын
is there something else going on with hz/rpm settings when in temperature mode? while in temperature mode i set the desired temperature way high, like 30C so it would be in high mode. Then I went into settings and as I changed low side hz, i could hear the fan ramp up and down (while it was/should be at max) I would have expected when in temp mode, running at high, the low side would not impact the fan RPM at high side.
@wagmiorngmi7 күн бұрын
You say that it "burns clean" and has no emissions/smoke after your modifications - where do you have the exhaust venting to?
@garrynutter860 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Got my interest in buying one. What make and model do you have Tony ? Thanks
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Mine's just a standard 5kW heater mate, they're all the same. Don't be fooled by the 8kW version, there is no such thing. The 8kW and 5kW are identical - it's just a sales con. All I have left of the original heater, is the wiring loom and heater itself. The rest of it is absolute junk and actually makes it more noisy. The inlet and baffle thing howls, the exhaust pipe howls and the hot air tube they give you is way too short. Buy a standard 5kW one - colour and paint job doesn't matter but make sure it has the same controller as mine, I have something extra to show everyone when I get round to it.
@carlos_sacalul5 ай бұрын
Hi,why my fan does not increase the speed when i rise de hz frequency pump. My pump start ticking accordint to the hz for example 4 hz but my fan still have the speed for 2.5hz and i have black smoke on exhaust because no air.Can you help me with an advice?thanks in advance.
@douglundy57553 ай бұрын
When I hit that button in the upper left corner all it does is increase the pump speed... It does not take me to any menu
@freeport364 ай бұрын
There is no Co2 because the exhaust is plummed outside. Unless you didn't...
@davidfaulkner60088 ай бұрын
thanks for your efforts doing this......why cant the lower rpm set as low as possible though?
@Vortecks8 ай бұрын
You still need an efficient burn and to achieve it, you need the correct amount of fuel/air ratio and heat in the combustion chamber. If you turn the fan down too much, it will over-fuel because you're starving it of air.
@davidfaulkner60088 ай бұрын
....has a range of 1 to 6
@lloydsmith37836 ай бұрын
Diesel heater with 3 button control. Sorted up after running for a couple of hours. Do you have any idea how I can set fuel adjustment. Can't find anybody to help.thanks
@nickwhitney1534 Жыл бұрын
Just spent most of the weekend fitting what looks to be the exact same model in my shed. It worked for 6 minutes then error 8!!! I didn’t even know they needed tuning? The instructions are poorly translated. I didn’t think about a carbon monoxide alarm, do you have a link to one? Subscribed.👍
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
Error 8 is a fuel problem so it's got to be the pump. Make sure you don't have any air bubbles trapped inside it. Change the orientation, wait a bit, change it back, give it a tap and that should cure it. Failing that, hold it vertically so the outlet is at its highest point and give it a few taps with something heavy 😊 This is the alarm I bought www.amazon.co.uk/FireAngel-CO-9XT-FF-Carbon-Monoxide-Sealed/dp/B00SB8VSPO
@christophermelo7889 Жыл бұрын
I recently got a 2kW that would flame out after 10 minutes and never got out of the yellow heat bars. The fan upper setting was 4500 and the pump 4.6Hz. It wouldn't stay burning until I had upped the pump to 6.4Hz which seems quite high for the kW rating. But anything less and it won't keep at 2 red bars. I haven't yet upped the bottom end settings but it appears that the chamber temperature should stay in the red bars? or is it normal to reduce speed and drop down to the yellow? I suppose there must be a minimum temperature to sustain the flame. Before I sorted it out the vendor sent a replacement which wouldn't ignite at all and was factory set at 3.4 Hz and 4250 upper pump and fan speeds. Maybe the 2 kW is a less efficient burner that actually needs more fuel? Anyway, thanks very much for posting this it was very helpful in getting one of the units to run.
@frspp Жыл бұрын
I got 2kw (with 60mm ducting) too and cannot tune with these instructions. At least when temperature is close to 0 c degrees: High is ok with two red bars (takes a hour to get there), but low is only four bars (0 red) even after 12 hours. Have been running it 100-200 nights with zero soot buildup - took it apart few days ago. Have been using so far: 1.0-3.0hz, 1500-4300 rpm. I think I have 0.18ml fuel pump where some have 0.22ml.
@josephjackson5330 Жыл бұрын
There all also not tighten up on every Alan key screw inside allowing glasses to escape.
@anotherasian8473 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I picked up a used one. Is it hard to take it apart to check and Clean out the soot if need be?
@seymourwrasse33212 ай бұрын
this made it clear as mud
@Vortecks2 ай бұрын
Excellent
@wagmiorngmi7 күн бұрын
is it just me that's not seeing any change in the bars when he presses the buttons up and down? I've no idea what he's on about !
@Vortecks6 күн бұрын
There is no instantaneous change in the bars, it takes 10-20 seconds for anything to change so you have to be patient. I merely demonstrated what needs to be done in order for it to burn more cleanly. With regards to your other question, the exhaust vented outside through a vent in the wall.
@christianholmstedt8770 Жыл бұрын
Thx. I will try this.
@Davidprood Жыл бұрын
How long should you wait for a bar change before lowering the max hrz setting each time?
@Vortecks Жыл бұрын
I waited a couple of minutes which seems like an eternity!