Vortex PST 1-6 vs Razor 1-6 E

[@FromTheShelves]

This dude single handedly saved me 600 bucks. You sir, were the hero we needed.

[@TacticalAccountants]

That’s what we’re here for

[@pat554]

@@TacticalAccountants Second this comment. Answered any question I could have thought of. Thank you sir

[@adibee88]

THIS has to be the MOST THOROUGH Comparison I've ever seen! Thank You for your HOURS invested, diligence, accurate testing basis and variety of environments! Amazing Work; PST it is!

[@MattChat56]

Absolutely the best breakdown video I have seen. Answered my questions perfectly. Thank you.

[@jantonie420]

So what did you go for

[@Daniel08353]

He lacked consistent on some of his comparisons; it they were well enough to show just how marginal their differences are. I liked his effort.

[@madeintexas1213]

@@Daniel08353 I take it you bought a razor?

[@Daniel08353]

@@madeintexas1213 I bought the Vortex. It’s marginal on differences. I won’t use it 300 times a year, to find that “little bit” of difference worth my while. I use a chainsaw a ton - so I bought a very reliable professional: since I use it so much, and find “that little bit” of difference very worthwhile.

[@themann4633]

Viper PST is fully suitable for 99.99% of CONUS users. Save the money and buy the ammo to TRAIN. Tacticool guys fail to realize that "operator" equipment does not make them better shooters, it just makes them look stupider when they fail to perform in front of actual operators. Perfect training makes perfect.

[@johnbowden9578]

Great review sir! Bought two PST rather than waiting. Wife is very happy.

[@TacticalAccountants]

John Bowden Two is one and one is none ;)

[@bigmike716]

You saved me $600. I bought the PST gen 2 and haven't regretted it once. I LOVE THIS OPTIC!!! Thanks again brother!

[@dmisov]

Excellent review. I was drooling over the Razor. This video makes me feel like I didn't just "settle" for the viper i ordered today. Made me feel good. Thank you!

[@mr.excitement689]

I do love how the razor makes everything seem to disappear vs knowing you’re looking through a scope. Great review. Liked and new sub.

[@xj2736]

Man I am so thankful for the time and effort you took to take a deep look into these scopes. Not only do you help us learn, but you help us make a well informed decision. I was really planning on going for the Razor especially for the cool color but I cannot deny the quality of the PST for the price point. It was such a shock to see the clarity of the eye sight chart at 50 yards. Thank you!

[@mborski8721]

2 years later.....my PST is on the way. One of the best reviews I've seen on the PST. Thank you

[@clockworkbadger2363]

This is one of the better equipment reviews I have seen on youtube, and I watch a TON of reviews. Very useful info! Thank you!

[@sniperwiper09]

you nailed this video, this has every bit of information needed to make an informed choice, with linked sources and no fluff, audio and video are both great for a small channel too other a little reverb from no sound dampening but thats picking nits, keep it up and youll go far bud, thanks for the show and tell.

[@TacticalAccountants]

Bladed Fingers Working on improving the audio going forward. Thanks for watching and for the constructive criticism.

[@Ashurus]

Great comparison and thanks for digging up that Vortex forum post where they say the Viper is 85-90% of the Razor!

[@TacticalAccountants]

Honestly it's a good thing I found that post after recording most of the footage. Otherwise I might have thought the video wasn't worth making since Vortex themselves said what I wanted to.

[@HugoStiglitz1000]

Agree 100%. Thank you for helping me make my decision Tactical Accountant! SUB

[@a.c.niyikiza8625]

Thoroughly demonstrable and qualifiable comparison 👏🏾. Best I’ve heard or seen. I have a strike eagle 1-6x I snagged for $300 and after this review I’m questioning my choice 🤦🏾‍♂️. It is my introductory LPVO.

[@Interpolation1911]

Strike Eagle is awesome for the price! Good choice. I have the 1-8 on my DDV7 Pro. I recently bought the PST VIPER for my DDM4A1.

[@a.c.niyikiza8625]

@@Interpolation1911 Thanks man, I appreciate it. Is the extra 2x magnification much helpful? If so, at what ranges have you found it to be?

[@Interpolation1911]

@@a.c.niyikiza8625 My eyes are not the greatest so i would say the extra 2x is good at 100-125 yrds. I know it can go 150 with no issues.

[@frankopanklaric]

Strike eagle is good. It is recommended for a reason.

[@DK_Raiders117]

Got the Viper as the Razor was out of my price range and could not be happier. Great review!

[@OrinVII]

I am the proud owner of two PST's. One for my 8.6 blackout and one for my supressed 300 blackout. By far the best optic in my collection. Can't beat the value you get for $500! Thanks for the great review dude!!

[@LARPeratorsAnonymous]

I was one of the poor souls who ordered the Viper PST Gen II the first week of July. The estimated ship date is 9/30 😭. I have played with the razor at my lgs, never the viper. Excited to get my hands on it. This review made me even more excited. Thanks man!

[@TacticalAccountants]

Anytime! You're right to be excited. I didn't realize just how great it was until I had a chance to compare to the Razor.

[@anthonyjose5644]

You did an amazing job with this video especially with night shots this is what I want to see. I greatly appreciate it

[@farmernat65]

I have both and I agree with you 100%. Only thing you didn’t mention was that the PST does have noticeably shorter eye relief on 6x than 1. Unlike the razor which the eye relief stays consistent throughout the magnification range. Also the eye box on 6X is noticeably better on the razor. If I was to sum it up in one sentence, I would say the PST is better on 1x and the razor is better on 6x.

[@jahbuny]

Old review but gah damn this needs more likes. Thank you so much for putting this together sir

[@theoldculture216]

So glad I seen this. I looked at the Vortex strike eagle 1-8x24 ffp and the Viper 1-6x24. Looked at both and will say the the Viper destroyed the strike eagle. Thank you for the information sir.

[@MotoJB]

Great review, thanks!! I'm a Razor Gen II owner looking for another LVPO...was struggling to "settle" for the PST on my other build but after watching this, not as much. The cost difference between the PST and a Razor, is about $450 at this time, and that $450 buys a mount and a backup 45 degree RDS to go with the PST. No brainer it seems. The only things you didn't cover was eye relief and eye box between the two at 1x and 6x. That's another huge consideration...and once you go Razor, looking through something that has a thicker, noticeable bezel, might be tough.

[@HoneyBadgerB]

Thank you for taking the time on the one. Been torn between holding out for a "better" optic but after that I have confidence in the PST.

[@GoDucks.2001]

10/10 review my dude. You've got a new subscriber.

[@mrwaddahshooter]

Great video. Underrated channel

[@TacticalAccountants]

Why thank you. We agree. Not that we're biased or anything.

[@sleekfast11]

A few comments....1) thankyou for the detailed review...appreciate it, 2) Don't think you mentioned that both optics are 2nd focal plane (SFP), 3) I don't know why youtube reviews like your's don't also include a segment viewing customer comments about the optic on manufacturer's website and addressing them....for example, customer comments that pst 1-6 "eyebox eye relief" wasn't good...meaning that a slight change in alignment of eye to just a fraction off center made it really difficult to use optic. Don't know if this is normal, but I know it's something I want to be informed about before I pay the $$$,

[@divejumpshooter6947]

I feel the same I have the both I had the Viper and went with a Razor for m other rifle thinking hmmm it'll be at least 2x better. It is great, I am keeping it but if I ever decide to replace my ACOG which I have for sentimental reasons (I think) since we used it in my unit. I'll go with the Viper. I'll also say after using everything from Elcan to Aimpoint, Eotech, Trijicon etc to the Vortex type sights the LPVO is my go to optic. The ACOG and the LPVO sights are truthfully the only optics that give me a CQB through 300 yard significant improvement in acquisition > shot > accuracy/time over Iron sights which I used for many years before optics became popular.

[@duckhunter4660]

Hands down the best optic review ever!! And it was between two optics I am considering. Thank you very much!!!

[@ricksters11]

Nice review, well thought out and helps me make a better decision as I am leaning towards a new optic. Budget is always the biggest consideration for the regular guy like us, living in that 80-20 world!

[@osoaerense2588]

You should be paid to do these reviews. VERY thorough. Love it. Will forward on to friends.

[@Absdrakt]

Dope review man, this one really helped me out a lot on making my decision. PST it is !! I like to stay in that mid-range area of budget and quality. The PST fits the bill

[@jki808]

No shit you’re called tactical accountants. Just saved me a lot of time and money on tactical gear. That shot of you under a blanket watching the sopranos with the scope was enough for a subscribe.

[@viaoutdoors]

Earned a sub for this amazing comparison. Thank you for your hard work on this video.

[@jakemerica]

Excellent comparison and review. I'm in the market for my first LPVO. The PST is definitely high on my list.

[@jcravoc4223]

Hey bro Army medic here. 8years active been deployed multiple times with some sf units, I’m not sf myself but had the luck of being in the right places at the right time. Anyway take my word however you want but I can tell you right now the reason the razors are so much is because of the military contracting. The razors, just like KAC and ACOGs, they don’t really actually provide more for the money. These manufactures just know that while they have the contract they can up the price and 1- the military will still pay for it. And B- civilians will want to look like the military so they will complain and then still pay for it. I know this because I built a true (minus funswitch) m4 clone down to the peq15. I have been wanting a razor 1-6 but only seeing the 1-8. Good thing I found this review now I know to just get a pst and cerakote it that high speed bronze lol. 👍👍👍

[@joshuareed3999]

If Vortex put a better reticle in the PST I'd buy 2-3 tomorrow. I have a PST ii 5-25, and love the thing, but I really like the JM-1 BDC reticle in the Razor. Less thinking involved. Better yet- borrow some ranging ideas from Primary Arms and give us something with a lifetime warranty that offers the advantage of being able to calculate distances without math. I know... I know.... shoot enough to become proficient with a standard mil based reticle. I'd rather let the reticle do it for me. Thanks for the great review of these optics!

[@fisherofmenmatt4194]

I think the issue is when it comes down to this level, small improvements are very costly to obtain.

[@mattsterpiecenjmaflva9956]

Great review. I just bought my second PST 1-6 today 😎🤙🏻

[@SabertoothDefenseSystems]

Excellent breakdown! It wasn't convoluted with all kinds of fluff. Simply a comparison between the two with excellent footage. Subscribed.

[@khann844]

thanks for the video. I was trying to decide between the viper 1-6 or the Trijicon credo 1-6 and your video helped me more then any other on you tube so thanks!

[@TacticalAccountants]

You’re very welcome. If you haven’t already, check out the Delta Stryker HD 1-6. We are testing one now. It looks like a very compelling alternative to other 1-6 LPVOs

[@Golgafrinchamdent]

Excellent comparison, thankyou for taking the time.

[@jasoncuda8910]

Excellent review. Thank you for your time and effort. Peace brother.

[@nhwnhw02]

Own several of the Viper PST Gen II. They are super clear. Was always Leupold only previously. Couldn't find anything like wanted in a low power variable. Tried one of these on a compact bolt action. At first thought I didn't like the light adjustment relative to the Leupold FireDot. Then with use realized it was so much easier than having to cycle through all the settings to go the other direction. With the Vortex just turn the dial. Off is between each setting. Changing the battery isn't as elegant on the Vortex. Be sure the threads are aligned before tightening. The power adjustment ring is stiff on one PST and not at all on another. Just buy a throw lever ring that is easily mounted.

[@toriushauser7143]

Outstanding effort to compare the two! Great work

[@thehilliardarmory6041]

Fabulous video dude. So glad I stumbled upon it. Now I know which route I’m going with my SD setup. Thank you so much for uploading!

[@TacticalAccountants]

Happy to help!

[@HoneyBeagle]

Just snagged a pst 1-6 tonight. Great first impression and this video sure made me feel better about not having razor money to spend

[@arobinson1602]

Really well balanced review and good user color beyond the numbers you can pull off the Vortex site - thank you!

[@therainydayshooter2973]

Thanks, your review made me choose the vortex razor HD Gen II E . I rather save weight so the $900.00 dollars on the GEN II E Razor was the better buy.

[@RichM0410]

Wow! Your time invested and then sharing the info is greatly appreciated. I felt all along you’d go with the pst. Razor to rich for my blood. Lol Thank you!

[@joelj3971]

Awesome comparison between these two scopes, thx for a great video!

[@skoolynugenator1802]

The disappearing bezel is a selling point I think for me. I mean it’s a red dot with six extra power. I think that quality of the razor is astonishing. And right now the heavier version is 900 in places. That’s only 300 more and I think worth it. Going to put it on my POF revolution pistol. Think that should be a deadly deer hunting combo.

[@beauberger1793]

I had the razor in my cart. Went to check out and it was sold out. I was so bummed because it was available for just under 1000 new with the BDC reticle. At the time, I thought well what about the viper.... so I ordered it..... and this video confirmed my hopeful research.

[@cameronw.4369]

Before purchasing my viper I contacted vortex customer support to ask a few questions. The guy I talked to said guys overseas often buy vipers when they're spending their own money to get the optic.

[@frankopanklaric]

I went with the PST. You have convinced me. I just couldn't justify the price of the razor to myself. All that leftover money can go to ammo and training in general. I hope I won't regret my decision.

[@frankopanklaric]

Update: I'm very happy with my purchase. I couldn't imagine paying double for a minor upgrade. Especially with performance as good as the pst.

[@Ajbuck68]

This is very helpful. Thank you so much for the thorough comparison!

[@jjsgame7683]

Dude~ Thanks for this review, and I'm so satisfied with my VST now.

[@nattybumpo4384]

She's heavy, but every time I look thru the PST I feel validated. Great review!!

[@SOCMMOB]

What a great comparison and an amazing video. Why did it take so long for me to stumble on it?! I’ve been looking at LPVOs for a loooong time

[@mikkibahl]

this guy just saved myself and a lot of people a lot of coin.

[@KristofferEngstrom]

Ive noticed that if you crank the eyepiece to far, the picture seems to get smaller than 1x on almost all lpvo:s.

[@paulyp9853]

First thing is that I want to thank you guys for your reviews. I guess the natural comparison is between the Viper and Razor - both Gen 2 1-6x. I have both and the Razor is a better optic. The Viper is very good and will serve you well, but the Razor is a better optic. Eye relief, eye box, and its clearer at the high magnifications. Again not bashing the Viper it’s a great optic, but its not the Razor - no shame in that. It punches above its weight class ---very true, but not the far up. Now if you throw in term “for the money”. That is adding the theory of diminishing returns. We can apply that to anything cant we? When using diminishing returns the cheaper item usually seems the better move. Someone from Vortex said that the Viper is 85% of the Razor for 50% of the money. Brilliant strategy. Why? People who can and want to will pay the premium for that extra 15%, and people who don’t want to or cant feel they are not missing much and spending less. Brilliant. Do you really think someone that gets paid upon company sales is going say anything publicly to hurt either line? Cmon. I have both a T2 and a Romeo 5. The T2 with a mount is between $8-900. The Romeo 5 is $100. Now is the T2 9x better than the Romeo. No its not. Is the Romeo 50% of the T2 for 12% of the cost? Maybe. The Romeo 5 is the better buy by this math. We can do this all day with anything…cars, appliances,….anything.

[@outrider6]

Excellent Review!!! Thank you sir.

[@AmokBro2]

Great comparison! Very informative and helpful.

[@elias8720]

Thank you for the video! This is a very honest oppinion. I just went and bought the Viper PST Gen2 and used it a litte. It is a great scope, the glas quality is incredible, also is the field of view. The redicle is indeed daylight bright. Negative things are the weight. That scope is heavy. Also the magnification adjustment ring is very stiff. you cant really turn it without a lever. All in all the PST Gen2 ist, i think the most bang for the buck scope on the market. Sure there a better scopes like the kahles k16i, but they cost about 1000 Euro more. Add to 2:30: The fact that the housing rim disapeares is nice, but pretty useless if you use vortex flip caps, which i and most of people do.

[@TacticalAccountants]

The disappearing rim phenomenon is much less noticeable in person with both eyes open, also.

[@duncan6987]

Best video I've seen on this optic. Probably gonna buy a viper because of you. Thanks!

[@TacticalAccountants]

Dustin Duncan You’ll love it.

[@anthonymartinson2270]

Great video. I agree the differences are few, between the two. For the massive price increase from the pst to the razor, for 95% of us the PST will do a great job. Spend the extra cash on a good mount, throw lever, and maybe some ammo.

[@TacticalAccountants]

Ammo if you can find any!

[@anthonymartinson2270]

@@TacticalAccountants truth!

[@oskarbernstrom1519]

What a great review! Thanks man :)

[@mjhac2685]

Awesome video dude, really helped my decision, thanks man!

[@ChaseBerry]

This is an amazing review and comparison. Subscribed!

[@dn5101]

I'm was going today for a viper, but not anymore. Thank you very much

[@williamreynolds3487]

The thing that worries me the most is the quality control and durability of the PST (more so the quality control). I only have one rifle, and that’s really all I plan to have. I’d like to have a do-it-all optic that I won’t have to replace for years and years unless I somehow break it. That’s the Razor for me.

[@nathoniel01]

Thank you for this video. Excellent and informative.

[@higherlifts420]

Ordered a uh-1 gen 2, then canceled for the razor gen 2 E. Can't wait to get it.

[@jam00723]

Dude, what a great review. Awesome job.

[@TacticalAccountants]

Appreciate it!

[@steveg3593]

Awesome comparison video. Good job!

[@chrisowen7209]

Not sure if you were aware, the author of that article (and many other really informative articles) Jeff Gurwitch now runs the youtube channel Modern Tactical Shooting. He makes some good stuff and he is a good dude.

[@milleniallgt9715]

Thanks man you just saved me alot of money!! was gonna pay 1400 for the razor but i dont think so anymore!

[@SpaceBanana69]

Sold just ordered one for my Daniel defense

[@randomstuff0331]

Awesome review man. Thanks you.

[@raudi]

i sold my razor to buy 2 vipers. best decision i made in a while.

[@ShooterMedic1818]

Haha nice dude

[@texko4268]

What LOL You are😂😂😂

[@edwardlilley1705]

Nah fam. Nah

[@whopperpreciado2628]

Just as good don’t listen to the haters

[@edwardlilley1705]

@@whopperpreciado2628 jUsT aS gOoD

[@themann4633]

Thank you, your analysis legit.

[@cmhuggins29]

Just bought a ddm4 v7 and need a scope. These are my 2 choices. I agree save money and buy some ammo or something else...

[@Matt-dd3cw]

This was a great video bro. I have a Gen 2 razor 1-6 E-Series, had been debating if Viper 1-6 was good enough for a backup rifle, clearly seems like it is. Thanks again! Eurooptic has the demos for $499 right now

[@itsrass1378]

I’m thinking about get the razor HD gen 2 1-6 because it only $1000 msrp now because I’m im willing to pay for quality

[@Matt-dd3cw]

@@itsrass1378 I ended up buying both. The Viper 1-6 is on a backup rifle, the razor 1-6 is clearly superior to me. I'm actually looking to buy a 1-10 razor right now for a different rifle

[@itsrass1378]

@@Matt-dd3cw I have been thinking about it and will end up with both but in the next few months im getting eotech exps3 for the rifle I have now and will build another rifle for midrange shooting.

[@tmpace9]

Having some information into the manufacturing world, it could be that the scopes are made the exact same, in the same factory, but the razor gets the grade "A" lenses, housings, dials esc while the PST gets the grade B and the Cs are used for Strike Eagles (among other parts differentiations. If you're looking for guidance on buying one or the other: Just buy the one that you can reasonably afford.

[@padgettproductions1694]

Keep putting this kind of content out

[@TacticalAccountants]

Will do! Working on something similar.

[@JOESRQFLUSA]

CAPS 2 C/ NOT SHOUTING 😀. FIRST THIS IS NOT A NICE REVIEW. ITS A BRILLIANT, THOROUGH, EXCELLENT REVIEW…. PERSONALLY SINCE YOU HAD BOTH, I WOULD HAVE KEPT BOTH… THEY ARE GREAT BUYS FOR THEIR OWN REASONS…. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORT, JOE SRQ FL USA

[@ibonihs]

dude EXCELLENT video. good job

[@NicsFlix]

Great comparison! You should definitely do more of these. Have you tried the swamp fox?

[@556ChannelHD]

WOW, you did the damn thing. Nice evaluation!!

[@sethrich5998]

You’re not the only one that sees the 0.9x on 1x. It really surprised me as I didn’t get that with my much cheaper Gen1 Strike Eagle. Decided to just go all in and get the K16I instead because of that.

[@whamou]

How do you like the Kahles, and may I ask where did you purchase it?

[@KamalasVACANTwomb]

Damn bro I thought the clintons took you out. Nice to see you’re good 😉

[@sc7145]

Great review you sold me on the pst.

[@themerryprankster9647]

When the pst offers the JM reticle I will be more than happy to buy it. I have, to be honest, Been waiting for Vortex to offer that option.

[@ridehi8083]

great video and review. thank you.

[@TheYemcl]

Do you have a review, or can you do a comparison vid, on optics in the (roughly) 2-10X range? This was a refreshingly honest, precise, and helpful review. Subbed.

[@TacticalAccountants]

We don't have a video specifically on that zoom range but our recent 10/22 scope video might be of interest to you. For what it's worth, I am a big fan of the Vortex PST gen1 2.5-10. Tactile turrets, good glass, and one of the lightest optics in that zoom range with illuminated reticle. Vortex warranty is tough to beat too. Thank you for the kind words.

[@2aphilosophy244]

This is a very helpful review. I just got a Viper PST Gen II (MOA reticle) and i'm very happy with it. Also, that article you linked to is super interesting. If its good enough for SF, its good enough for me lol.

[@dreamit.buildit]

Great comparison video very helpful. If you are open to a little constructive criticism I will say audio quality on the video with the echo sound is hard to listen to. Thanks and great information.

[@M81Mojo]

Outstanding review

[@BB-ly3dh]

Great comparison. I have the viper, love it. And it does draw ligh very well at night, i was pleasantly suprised, thought that it wouldnt b great since it is a 24mm

[@mikecarey1424]

I have a pst gen 2 for a long gun, it holds up great. What sold me was watching a video where a guy took one and threw it out a car doing 80k mounted it back on and it kept zero.

[@calvins4084]

Thanks for taking the time, can you do vudu 1-8 ?? If you get a chance

[@jakek7112]

Awesome work man I’m subbed!