VW Audi EA888 Gen 1, 2, 3, 3B TSI TFSI Engine Problems Comparison Review 2008-2021

[@worldendless8858]

Nice i love it i learned alot bro real shit keep it up...

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Appreciate that ..tc

[@sagamerboy]

This video is so underrated... Needs more views honestly... The effort is much appreciated.

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Wow thank you

[@elbojoloco]

Finally someone who can tell me if I have a gen 1, 2 or 3 engine. So happy to see that I've got a gen 3 without those oil issues!

[@mpelevic]

Not without, just lesser.

[@jmt8706official]

A gen 3 burning through 1 liter of oil in 6K miles seems like a lot to me.

[@elbojoloco]

@@jmt8706official It really isn't that much, it takes me like half a year to drive 6k miles, topping up 1L of oil every half year is not a problem for me.

[@itsonlyniles]

Gen 1, owned since 2011. Tuned since day 1 and haven't had a single issue with oil consumption

[@bepis888]

@@itsonlyniles tell me more. did you change the pistons?

[@GeorgiKolevPetrov]

I think you skipped the actual 1st generation for the 2.0T (TFSI). I am driving an Audi A4 2.0 TFSi from 2005, engine code BGB, which is considered to be the first gen for FSI / TFSI engines (2004-2008). Which gets commonly mistaken for the 2nd gen, which is from 2008-2012 and the 2nd gen are notorious for their oil consumption and have been recognised as a factory fault and therefore a large percentage were factory recalled and fixed by Audi - as you well described :). I would consider your title to be EA888 Gen 2, 3, 4, 4B. Edit: Just found that the 2004-2008 FSI/TFSi engines were considered to be EA113, so you you have listed them correctly. Once again, well described and I enjoyed watching.

[@Lonelydad2]

Glad I found this channel 3 years late . I've stayed up late daily researching this engine every night contemplating my path. Purchased my 09 a4 Quattro with a caeb . almost 4 years ago . Was my first almost new car was my dream car. Put $4,000 down and first oil change car started smoking horribly wile running. 123,400 miles with the internet and friend I misdiagnosed it as a bad turbo . Purchased a $1800 non stock great turbo . Installed and problem still existed. Some lessons are expensive .

[@vladdutz20]

EA888 has a cast iron block, only the head and pistons are made from aluminum :)

[@AP1411]

Right Cast Iron GJL-250 !

[@user-lp7qx8xy4e]

OK I'm not loosing my mind 😂

[@scottrobertson9417]

Aluminium!

[@vladdutz20]

@@scottrobertson9417 cast iron for the block

[@Sk8luv33]

great breakdown 🔥🔥🔥

[@Dcc357]

Lol at least Audi gave you a hint about the 4 piston rings with their logo.

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

😂

[@WPM_in_ATL]

ROFL!

[@serdaronal22]

😂

[@TheFuneralDirector]

I've watched this videos over the last 6 months 5 times now and every time I watch it I learn something new, its really informative, superb video mate .... Regards Andy

[@maszat1515]

The first problem was that they didn't ask the japanese to make the chain drive

[@maciejsuchecki7653]

Driving without seat belt is the real issue with these engines...

[@andreiolvedi]

Great video , you are very informed and passionate about this ea888 engines . Well done, very useful info. Keep up the good work

[@ATcarchannel]

Gen1 ea888 are BYT and Bzb engine from 2007 and they where Availble in audi a3 8p seat leon 1p and passat 1.8 tsi

[@user-nm3nz5bk9n]

Love your work man! Glad someone has finally done a history of these engines, some really fun and cool cars have had them.

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Thanks. It was long time coming to summarize it..Next we need to explore 3B generation deeper..

[@ConnerV]

Great video👍 I have a 2012 A4 TFSI EA888 gen 2. My engine isn’t mounted horizontal though🤔The excessive oil usage because of the faulty tensioners is definitely the Achilles heel other than that, 193,000 miles with virtually no issues.😃👍

[@erikroelinkcitizen2302]

Cool video i have a yeti cdaa gen2 😊 also piston ring problems solved now 50k km in 0 oil consumption 😅

[@capax1559]

Thanks mate for the video ! I never was very good with engine sounds, i have a mk 6 GTI and i thought the chain noise was abnormal it's not loud it makes the same sound as yours but got me worried for nothing 🤣

[@jamesgrant9377]

Superb video my friend! Keep up the great work.

[@davidk8771]

Great review overall but you might need to correct this the smaller pistons were actually on later Gen1 CAE, CDN and CND and earlier Gen2 CC engines but earlier Gen1 CAB, CDH actually had larger pistons ..and seem to be holding better after 10+ years on that oil gulping issue. For this reason most people actually generalise to saying the smaller pistons were more of a Gen2 issue than Gen1 or Gen3....

[@mohammedrahmanrahman5024]

thanks for the input dave not everybody is so deep knowledgeable as you.

[@Onnbekendd]

exactly

[@mlue1466]

Good catch👍, my early Gen 1 burns less than 700ml between 7500km oil changes

[@mlue1466]

... that was using Castrol Edge 5W40. My last 2 oil changes I switched to Castrol Edge 5W50 and the oil consumption went down to 400ml over the 7500 km oil change. Essentially using only one 5 litre bottle of Castrol Edge 5W50 between oil changes

[@CanU2009]

이 영상을 보고 있는 현재 나는 2011 mk6 gti를 타고 있으며 320,000km를 주행중이다. 나의 엔진은 cczb로 알고 있으며 현재까지 타이밍텐셔너에 문제 없이 잘 사용중이다. 개인적으로 나는 ea888엔진은 잘 만든 엔진이라고 생각합니다.

[@shieric123]

Based on what you said, it seems like the Gen3 engines are a lot more robust with the PCV / tensioner issues being resolved. Is there anything else to watch out for?

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Yes, if you go to my playlist the one with Audi A4 b8.5 rebuild it has few videos on this Gen 3 - all issues dealt with that engine. We had oil leak, we had entire water pump failure. I am sure there is more but overall these are issues that we can all do ourselves unlike issues presented by Gen 1 where pushing it off the cliff sounds most suitable

[@user-yl1zp5kp5k]

EA888 Gen 2. Best engine for me.

[@The-Audi-driver]

Iv got the gen 2 EA888 automatic Audi A3 2.0TFSI Quattro s line 3 door. 200bhp. I hope to take it up to 320 one day.

[@MisterK10]

The greatest vids

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Thank you

[@nogazgazu]

Turbo fuel stratified injection (TFSI) is a trademark of the Volkswagen Group for a type of forced-aspiration ("turbo") engine where the fuel is pressure-injected straight into the combustion chamber in such a way as to create a stratified charge. First generation TFSI engines was produce in 2004, for exaple: in audi A4 b7 engine code BPG BWT (162 kW or 220HP) or Golf Mk5 engine code BWE (147kW or 200HP)

[@Boba_fehtt]

I mean to dumb down what you said it’s almost a diesel style combustion style but for a gas car.. I have an A3 2019 2.0t and even I’m dreading if it will go wrong

[@Tube-bank]

Great video, I really enjoyed it. Thanks very much. I don’t understand why my MY2016 Golf GTI Mk7 engine CHHA Generation 3 wasn’t mentioned though? Peter

[@acoast84]

Great video! Keep going💥

[@alexhoddzz2765]

I have a 63 Plate Audi s3 8v pfl which engine do I have need to find out which thermostat/water pump I need ??

[@johnallan1134]

A no nonsense video highlighting the important bits.. I'm gladish mines is gen3 but will be doing timing chain and water pump to be sure.. Its got audi fsh but hey they put rubbish oil in from asda.. Its 5 40 for me and the liqui/moly additive.. Had Honda type r b4 and even Honda recommended 5/40. And it used less between changes.. Great video.. 👌👍🏻

[@guillermoagustin662]

Te felicito, explicaste perfectamente, la gente cree que todos los motores de A4 son todos de 1ra generacion y queman el 3er aro rasca aceite y que nunca lo solucionaron!.

[@joanespik]

In some places they are saying that the bad oil piston rings are an issue of the gen2 engines. You said that is a gen1. Are you sure about that? THANKS!!!

[@bjrkK]

So is there anything to keep in mind with the gen 3b engine? Any recommendations?

[@blazbohinc4964]

The B stands for Buddack. It's the VW engineer that modified the Miller cycle to be more efficient and driveable. 3B and 3 couldn't be more different. One is Buddack cycle and the other is Otto cycle.

[@leekotze8274]

CDNC is gen 2. Every bit of goggle search ive done has come back with it telling me its a gen 2 engine.

[@mohammedrahmanrahman5024]

Wicked documentary seems like you have allot of these engine.

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Yes, I have build gen 1, 2 and fixed gen 3 seen on the video, this ea888 follows me everywhere :)

[@stephendoherty8291]

What are the magnets used for?

[@aminkhan1292]

does the small pistons has issues with the 1.8t fsi cabb?

[@jamesau4135]

Thank you so much for the video, very imformative. But now I wonder what things the EA888 EVO4 has been improved compared to the Gen3.

[@ajserrano7924]

Really good video! Thank you!

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Wow thanks appreciate that

[@lks6825]

Cool video man ,a lot of good info, just improve the audio

[@scotta9114]

We bought a 2014 VW EOS online. We are the third owner's. Vehicle had 39,500 miles and very frequent service. First thing I noticed is the exhaust pipe outlet is lined with a very think Soot. I think it's 1/16". The engine runs fine, no visible smoke and it's quiet but that Soot must mean very bad news. My 2002 SAAB 9-5 has 171K miles and the exhaust outlets have zero residue and are slightly rusting. The SAAB never burns any oil. We don't know if the EOS is burning oil yet? We only have put 700 miles on the car and are using Motul 5w-40. I would assume this Soot deposit means it's shot. Should we dump this EOS?

[@carcrazyguysa4059]

The Golf 8 actually has the EA888 Gen 4

[@eyeoflaw]

I have a 2011 A4 with 211hp which I’ve always known to be a Gen 2 but has the CDNC code.

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

It's actually gen 1 I've had two vehicles with this engine, one of which I had to swap entirely.

[@dwiffy12]

@@GetJobDoneofficial I dno if you're right bud, Gen 1 came without valve lift, VW used these in their early MK6 TSI platform, Audi used them in the 8P A3s too. They had a non serviceable HPFP, larger crank mains, larger piston rings. Pretty sure they ran a KKK turbo too. Gen 2 all had valve lift Audi called it (AVS). They designed the engine to have 'less friction' which meant smaller piston rings (that causes the oil scraper/control to carbon up which causes the consumption issue) they had a narrow slotted design, later moving to a longer slotted design with most aftermarket manufacturers moving to the old school helical design. Smaller main bearings. IHI turbo. Later engines had a staggerd link timing chain design to counter the stretch issue (which coupled with the bad tensioner latch design led to the jumping timing issue) Big changes in the Gen 3 notable ones being integrated exhaust manifold with the later chocolate IHI turbo. The block design changed with narrower cylinder walls, pin bearing balance shafts and I think some run port injection? They also moved away from Bosch ECU to Siemens. They all ran different injectors starting from HDEV 5.1 injectors to HDEV 5.2. ranging from 150bar to 200bar fuel pressures. The rocker arms changed through the years too. My information comes from working on a lot of these through the years, building a couple high hp motors. One being a CDNC from an early 2011 A4. Good to see someone trying to publicise good info on these engines though, it's a bit of a dark art!

[@ruthless236]

Great video! I have a 2009 passat 1.8 TSI, is this the first gen or 2nd gen? I checked the registration number and on some sites it says BZB and some other sites it says CDAA. Is there a way to verify which one it is, like using the VIN number? Thanks!

[@basswars7060]

For me the biggest advantage this engine has is its cast iron block. It can take serious horsepower, its thinner profile allows for easier maintenance and cast iron absorbs vibration better than any metal. It's a bit heavier, but its advantages more than make up for that.

[@Atl404sFinest]

Great explanation! Super sexy too😊 Audi/ VW engines are getting better over time

[@samramu4680]

I’m choosing between i20n and 2020 polo gti What’s your optioning please for less problems

[@OrlandoPaco]

Thank you for your time.

[@vhjioa]

Mark 8s with the 2.0 TSI have the Evo4 engine. Slightly bigger turbo (not from IHI anymore). Cylinder block is cast iron on all EA888, one of the best traits of it.

[@medaminmedhioub1121]

I have the same sound with gen 3 2013 , I would like to know where is the problem? And how to solve it

[@medaminmedhioub1121]

🙄

[@johnnyVGtran]

great video mate i have the 14 tiguan with the cczb engine 155kw

[@bhekinkosikeith9321]

is it possible to swap engines, replacing gen 1 with a gen 2 in the same car

[@keeto56]

Great video, thank you.

[@shieric123]

Great video, would love to learn more about the Gen3 engines

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Thank you

[@seb4298]

Looking to buy octavia vrs 245 any tips?

[@aminkhan1292]

gen 1 is it port injection or direct injection? you've said direct port injection @2:26?

[@arshadnawawi]

Gen 1 & Gen 2 only direct injection. Gen 3 has direct & port injections. Means Gen 3 has double injectors

[@mikegreen2229]

@@arshadnawawi This is true, BUT North American Gen 3 didn’t get port injection like Europe ☹️

[@Maksinism]

Good info, but after what year they "fixes" the excessive oil consumption? 2012? 2014? what about VW?

[@zero082294]

Im confused bro. I have an Audi q5 2014 2.0 tfsi. The engine cover looks like the third one you showed here the gen3, however the code is different than the ones you listed and it doesn’t have the dipstick to check oil.

[@michaelbeloso4910]

Hey just wanna ask, will a ko4 turbo kit from a tfsi engine , be a straight fit for a tsi engine(mk3 scirocco)? Thanks

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Providing is the same engine or in the compatibility range. TFSI and TSI share the same engines plus minus some minor differences

[@michaelbeloso4910]

@@GetJobDoneofficial if i am to upgrade from a ko4 what supporting mods do i need besides an intercooler, full exhaust sys, dv, induction kit and r8 coilpacks ?

[@static_mk6_gli223]

@@michaelbeloso4910 you need a good tune! None of that will be useful without a good tune. Many times a good tune can make or break an engine so keep that in mind!

[@sakis8366]

Porsche macan T model 2022 wearing the same engine with Audi A4 EA 888 gen 3 ? or the new EA 888 4 generation?

[@TheFoxSaid]

So what gen do the CAEB and CPMA/CPMB engine fall into?

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

CAEB is Gen 1, and CPMA would be Gen 3

[@TheFoxSaid]

But isn't the caeb notorious for having the bad ring issues? Mine had to be done at 70k under recall. Also I thought all gen 3s switched to a metal intake manifold with a 5th injector?

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

@@TheFoxSaid The 3rd Gen has MPI twin injection system which is brilliant for performance and health of the engine. The CAEB has been recalled that is correct. I am glad you have been able to get that swapped under the circumstances.

[@TheFoxSaid]

@@GetJobDoneofficial Oh this caeb has suffered just about every recall audi offered. Timing, piston rigs, pcv, rear main seal. Unfortunately it was over the mileage to be covered. The previous owner had the pistons done, I'm assuming under warranty. Very frustrating platform to own. I'm so used to these dirty direct injected engines that when I pulled the intake off of my BMW e56 the other month I almost shed a tear when I saw actual clean valves. Strongly considering just swamping for that 3rd gen CPMA

[@bozkurt4698]

Hi, I want to buy an A5 8T of 2016 next year. So you mean there no problems with the piston rings?

[@vytautaskryzius2556]

do ea888 gen 3b engines still constumes oil ? CYMC engine to be exact.

[@abdoabdo799]

the CDAA also includes the VW cc 2012 (357) standard trim or also more trims

[@davidingram5965]

Very thorough discussion. Thanks.

[@Imposter407]

Pls reply. So in gen 2 they fixed the oil consumption and only the tensioner has problems? Thank you

[@kokhualim2200]

Any review on the new EA888 Evo 4 engine?

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

I believe that's ahead of us...

[@David-C27]

How can i tell if i have Gen 1 or 2 they are really similar?

[@zuzutube1]

can you rebuild gen1 with gen3 components? are they compatible?

[@Jok3sta]

FYI the MK6 Golf R uses still the Gen 1 motor. Only the GTI had the gen 2 motor. And as far the fuel consumption, Even tuned, Im getting over 25 mpg on average in my MK6. 30+ on on longer drives.

[@stevos63]

Really good detailed video dude. Cheers very much.

[@jovicamiljakovic9915]

Can I send You video from 1.8 tfsi engine, i hear some weird noise from engine, can you suggest what problem is??

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Oh dear ... Let me know how can help

[@elchucapablas]

I have gen 1 and Audi fixed my pistons for free. Also did my tensioner since the engine was out. No problems at all since then

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

🏆

[@vagcentral2252]

Did you own it since new?

[@elchucapablas]

@@vagcentral2252 no. I bought it with 62,000 miles

[@Imposter407]

Please tell me if CABB and CDHB has been affected by the high oil consumption. Im about to get one a4 b8 1.8 tfsi 158hp this weekend. Thank you

[@N1NJAKIDD]

Good information mate, thanks for the effort 👍🏾

[@S2XCREW]

Thank you i been looking all over info on the difference because i have a 2012 Jetta Gli Gen 1 CCT 6spd Manual and i'm actually wondering if on my car i can swap to a gen 3 engine or gen 2.

[@amirelnakhloul]

hello! I have a 2010 audi a3 1.8TFSI with CDAA engine. I have the error of excessive oil consumption?

[@SpanishBUILT]

I love my Ea888 in my 6 speed a4

[@augustoferrer6782]

I was just about to buy an Audi A5 2.0t of 2013 (engine CDNC 211cv) but I think it has the ea888 gen 1. Do you think I should avoid it? All this engines have the oil consumption problem?

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Unless has already been recalled and fixed I would invest into Gen 2 or 3 as they are manageable through service and maintenance in comparison to hopeless cdnc. That's my opinion as someone who had personally two cdnc vehicles recently.

[@elchinahmedov2954]

great explanations

[@bricknplay]

Hi, we had Audi A3 2011 and it has oil consumption ion, so is it a gen 1? Btw the engine blew up because the clogged valves.

[@michaelzirch9045]

I own a stage 2 a3 1.8tfsi gen3 ea888. No oil consumption problems yet. It has 85000km

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

That's the same millage as my gen3, same here, fingers crossed..

[@michaelzirch9045]

@@GetJobDoneofficial I think the engine will be reliable. But my clutch gave up a few days ago 😂 the mq250 transmission in the a3 is weak af

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

@@michaelzirch9045 Yes, but the good thing they are not too hard to work on. Let us know how job went.

[@65strad]

Gen 3 2014 Passat bought new 170,093 miles runs great. ZERO squeak or rattles. 41.2 mpg when set cruise to 57 mpg on a 100 miles trip with sunroof and windows open. Replaced PVC breather and use BG's MOA, 44K, EPR. Best car Ive owned in my 67 years including g a new 2011 base GTI with DSG

[@TrillMk6]

Awesome video very informational 💯💯

[@西恩-g4i]

sorry so what is the problem of 2020 Q5 45tfsi 2.0T EA888? thanks

[@jeffgroves4533]

The chain issue on the 3b is rare. Probably a lack of maintenance.

[@Ulthion]

211(208) is always gen 2 or there was versions like that in gen 3? Asking, because officialy gen 3 started in 2011. But when im looking for the car i see that 225hp earliest versions are from 2013.

[@a.kaccelerations1228]

Hello. I have a question DKZA engine is that a ea888 engine ? And is it same internals like golf R and Audi S3 ?

[@trevorwalker1163]

I'm thinking of purchasing an A5 2.0 tfis convertible 96000miles 2010 how would I know this engine is affected by the piston ring issue? Are all the engines problematic? Could I still have this engine under the North American issue to be fixed by Audi for free if it has an oil problem? Thank You?

[@mohammedrahmanrahman5024]

ring them and see if the car had a recall for the problem. audi are theifs dig deeper with them

[@elchucapablas]

I live in USA and mine got fixed for free but the dealer asked me for proof the car was serviced at Audi, which it was, and be under 80,000 miles. I was at 75000. If you don’t have proof and/or are above 80000 miles, they do a prorated cost

[@amirelnakhloul]

Hello! I have an audi a3 2010 1.8tfsi with a CDAA engine. I have the problem of oil consumption? when i accelerate my car and the turbo starts to work, it expels bluish white smoke

[@wadecooney1604]

Great Job mate! You forgot the BZB :) I have one in my Skoda Octavia

[@ilyasbuyuklu1587]

I own 2010 audi a5 coupe 2.0tfsi quattro..in the back of trunk it says 155kw cdnc ea888 engine..but i am not sure if its gen 1 or gen 2 ? Can you help me ?

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Its mentioned in the video. Best Regards

[@andy1taylor]

Bought low miles full dealer history 2015 Audi A3 Quattro premium plus with 2.0 TFSI 6 months ago for my son . Started running rough a coup,e of weeks ago, TPC misfires. I replaced all plugs and coil packs , still misfire. Sent it to a shop with a trained Audi mechanic. 2 valves sticking , leaking likely bent , probably failure of tensioner . Even at $120 an hour low labor rate repaid with head off, new chain, tensioners, skim , replace valves it’s a $6000 bill for a 5 year old car with full history. Bought many audis .... don’t think I will be doing so again @audi

[@mohammedrahmanrahman5024]

best just to get a second hand engine or head and replace.

[@andy1taylor]

@@mohammedrahmanrahman5024 yep we are looking for a low miles or refurb head , still going to be costly for a low miles full history car ... vorsprung and all that !

[@aramt1985]

@@andy1taylor buying old and low mileage cars is risky, because they often hack odometer

[@danielgrozdanov8905]

Hey mate, ive just buyed Skoda Octavia mk2 facelift vRS 2.0 TSI 2009 . I noticed that you didnt mentioned mark as Skoda and Seat. My question is, do you know which gen. Engine i have in my Skoda?

[@erwinvanriel5843]

Do you know what gen is in the audi a4 35 tfsi 150 ps ?

[@adamweber960]

Very informative video! Why ist the Gen3b so noisly? Thought the chain problems were solved. Are there any common issues left with this generation?

[@mohammedrahmanrahman5024]

new generations will make new problems. new problems cam shaft and lubes

[@markusortmaier7174]

Why Not buying the 1.4 Tfsi in the B9? It is best driven and has enough power.

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

1.4 tfsi has it's own story with the avalanche of failures, oil consumption, turbo failures, tensioner failures..no thanks 😊

[@tradenchill9123]

@@GetJobDoneofficial even as new as 2018, 2019 1.4 tfsi engines? Do they have these problems? Im planning to get A5 2018 with it

[@daltoniks]

i got 2008 A4 b8 engine was gone - so i bought 2011 engine same specs, but question reminds - was that design fixed already?

[@GetJobDoneofficial]

Do you now what's the code of the engine

[@RMPT6]

I want to buy an Audi A5 2016 engine CJEE so they have Problems?

[@seanobrien5520]

iv got a 2008 1.8tsfi A5 125000 miles on the clock and doesn't use a drop of oil between services, so it's not all engines that do it.

[@churicky1104]

thank you bro! your video is very helpful! Can i ask the question? My car is 2013 Q3, The Engine code is CCZC, Do you know the tensioner part no. is 06H(old) or 06K(new)? because some say the new tensioner(06K) is fixed the timing chain issue.