Warhammer Lore, Gospodar Law! Draconian Virtue!

[@princeofayossia7314]

Ungol law: haha Go to gulag Gospodar law: For breaking the laws of her majesty and being threat to gospodar society, the penalty is forced labor at a gulag, glory to kislev

[@Johan_the_Marshal]

Yes

[@boguslav9502]

So basocally slavic type societies, from barbaric to soviet. I like

[@gokbay3057]

The only difference is Gorspodar law has nationalistic overtones and at least tries to give the getting sent to gulag bit the general appearance of fair and civilized law.

[@kinagrill]

and you do not get 200 dollars for passing start, no matter what.

[@robertnelson9599]

Viewers: Make videos for the Primarchs. Arch: Makes video on a system of law.

[@spamhonx56]

Makes video explaining a law system where ultimately, the person on top decides what happens. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

[@NetMoverSitan]

So far, he's covered fiction's 2nd most horrific version of Batman (e.g. Konrad Curze) along with how he could've been a loyalist and the mind of Lorgar Aurelian.

[@samuelrodriguez9801]

@@NetMoverSitan Who's the First?

[@NetMoverSitan]

@@samuelrodriguez9801 The Batman Who Laughs. (e.g. Evil Batman, who is the best parts of Batman and the worst parts of the Joker)

[@samuelrodriguez9801]

NetMoverSitan I kinda figured.

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

"I'll let this stay on screen for a little bit." *stays on for the entire video* Ah, I see. A man of good taste.

[@catsareevil101]

In Warhammer Fantasy the Empire is the worst human nation to live in, except for all the others.

[@megaman1808]

Doomed if live in the Empire, doomed fare worse if you don't

[@robertnelson9599]

It's not as grimdark as 40K (used to be) but it is still grimdark.

[@mivapusa]

Empire is basically 15th Century HRE, with far better medical services, religion has a purpose and your life as a peasant has value. The neighbours, on the other hand...

[@КалинкаМоя]

Is it me or is Kislev as parody of Russia stupider than the Empire as a parody of HRE? I mean, most of it is pseudo-Mongol shit and the stuff that *is* Russian is 18th century (aka, the century of slavishly sucking off French “fashion” / the century of Catherine the Whore). Barely even worth a slav squat.

[@megaman1808]

@@КалинкаМояCaptain speaking, as with Kislev, Russians has always shared their territory with the bothersome cossacks, which are the equivalent to ungols in warhammer fantasy. So not too much of a parody, since the civilized Gospodors probably also likes to suck their western neighbors culture to be cool

[@prycux2323]

Good design, it's good to see gambeson used instead of leather armor. Gambeson is criminally underutilized in many fantasy settings.

[@nekoill]

Unfortunately so. Probably because it doesn't look nearly as edgy. But yes, totally agree.

[@justskip4595]

I have a feeling that the artists would make characters use gimp suits if they could get away with it´when seeing all that leather.

[@Rajayali]

Thanks, glad you like it! And yeah, I tend to make the gambeson visible in most, if not all, my fantasy soldier/adventurer and such designs

[@nekoill]

@@Rajayali the design in general is pretty awesome, too. And the braid is another cool element of it as well, love it.

[@konrad8245]

In general, armor looks almost identical to Hussar armor. So someone didn't try enough.

[@Venneroth]

"If all of one side of the feud is dead, you can't have a feud, can you?" *Laughs in Khazalid*

[@ilunnas]

I smell grudgeing about

[@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863]

To the guillotine!

[@gorvarhadgarson5227]

This is why we write things down in the Dammaz Kron!

[@robertnelson9599]

Let's not forget that necromancy is a thing.

[@pierre-mariecaulliez6285]

"If one side of a feud is dead, well it can't be carried, isn't it ?" Dwarf : Hold my book... I can picture a trait for TW:WH's Kislev : "Justice zealot" +3 public order +25% income for region buildings ;7

[@pavlezoranovic1859]

Fun fact - In Serbian "Gospodar" means "Ruler". Like, literally. So "Gospodar law" translates as "Law of the Ruler", which is kinda redundant.. But oh well...

[@tanall5959]

Actually, considering the laws come FROM the ruler near directly in this case, it is quite apt.

[@urorazbojnik5678]

In one of my favorite books, Mistborn, you have a character whose literal title and name are Lord Ruler haha

[@KS-PNW]

I was going to say, seems rather apprapro to me

[@violenceislife1987]

Redundant legal apparatus

[@colmcorbec7031]

There's a rat-thing in the video. Interesting.

[@youngthinker1]

Call for the witch hunters! We have a heretic!

[@thomasschmidlin3296]

Its a scaven u dont know what scaven are

[@aitchisondaniel]

Nothing to see here, its just an odd beastman...

[@betchersgland7236]

@@thomasschmidlin3296 silly man, there is no such thing. ha-ha-ha *where the fuck are witch hunters, heretics keep coming*

[@derekstien5698]

There is no such thing as rat men.

[@semi-useful5178]

Would it be a crime to call the Tzarina "Hot" as she is an Ice queen after all.

[@robertnelson9599]

Only if she is in a bad mood.

[@semi-useful5178]

@@Yacovo Kek

[@omegawilliam95s36]

@@robertnelson9599 You’d think being in Kislev she’d always, *stay chill*.

[@pirig-gal]

The second version of Ice Guard girl looks more slavic. I approve. It's really cool (no pun intended)

[@MatJan86]

Second take on Ice Guard is much better. Love it.

[@marcinzysko1653]

16:00 There was once a feud between two poor boyar families over a pear tree on the field balk, that held for over 50 years.....

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

The Dwarves: "Respectable."

[@oz4087]

Tzarina Katarina: "Terror will be the order of the day".

[@barrybend7189]

1:38 Make one version with a longbow and a short cavalry bow.

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

One of the things elite units should have over other troops is the ability to pick and choose their weapons to better prepare for the fight ahead. Where militia fights with what they brought from home and regulars fight with whatever they are issued, elites can afford to be more fussy.

[@barrybend7189]

@@Self-replicating_whatnot considering the ice guard are an elite guard yet should have some standardized gear as a suedo honorary guard.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

long bows are made of materials that don't grow well in colder climates. composite bows and crossbows are the weapons of medieval/renaissance eastern Europeans.

[@barrybend7189]

@@matthiuskoenig3378 considering this is warhammer you can if the creature exists to be used as material.

[@beowulfhermes8253]

How are they going to draw a longbow meant for war which are 80 lbs at the low end of draw weights.

[@DominikKost]

You have no idea how painfull it is for a Pole to see Winged Hussars being presented as, well, russian cavalry. Imagine one country that has been pretty much your country's main foe for half a millenium (Russia's most important public holiday celebrates liberation of Moscow from Poles in 1604, one of our main public holidays is when we kicked their asses in the battle of Warsaw 1920), then imagine an RPG game which has a fantasy version of that country where your fatherland's most successfull and beloved unit of all time is presented as their elite. Boils my blood every single time since mid 90s...

[@alexandersokolnik1596]

Kislev imho is just a general amalgamation of everything to the East of Germany, not just uniquely Russia. Also those countries are not uniquely screwed over. Bretonia is a mix of English/French cultures and that’s also not a historically friendly nations.

[@betchersgland7236]

What Alexander Sokolnik said. Also yeah get angry at people you don't know because a bunch of dead people that killed each other happened to live in your country and it's neighbour. As you pointed out Russia and Poland fucked each other over for quite some time. Maybe give it a rest instead of pissing yourself off over a fantasy country that lumps all things Slavic together?

[@liamhogan4369]

@@betchersgland7236 Point. On the other hand, I think it's unreasonable to assume everyone to be as fiercely individualistic as your own self. Also, Dominik was not directing his anger towards any particular person, as you suggest; if he were, that would be unreasonable.

[@The_Real_Maxajax]

You have to remember that Warhammer Fantasy Battles was made by a bunch of tabletop gamers, almost half a lifetime ago. They probably didn't consider the centuries of warfare between the Poles and the Rus to be a factor when they created their setting. The same can be said of the feud between the Catholic church and the Orthodox church. However, whilst Kislev might be an unfortunate merger from that point of view, I posit a silver lining. One that both the Polish and the Russians should find agreeable. At least there's no Ottomans.

[@betchersgland7236]

@@liamhogan4369 Of course nobody hates individual people from who-knows-where, it's too much hussle.) Hating and idea of "Russians\Italians\Whoever" that represents a nation in one's mind is still a waste of time though. What can I say, I guess I am kind of a radical individualist. Also am totally 100% team Emperor in 40k. Weird. Food for thought, thanks.

[@TheKahiron]

Yeah, that deals with all the issues I had with the kislevite guard design. I'd definitely collect that.

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

Huh. A new cinematic. Very curious. We look forward to its progression.

[@LethargicGM]

It's not new and it's only for WFB videos.

[@Tanth1982]

Now give her a bloody shield. Whole history of warfare pre fastloaders is stick and board!

[@charlottewalnut3118]

Well full plate does make shields a bit irrelevant

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

​@@charlottewalnut3118not really..... a Shield is always good. You wouldn't want to try and block a warhammer or great/war axe blow with just your plate armour, as you'd end up crumpled up. At least with a shield, you'd end up having further protection against blows.

[@Yuudaddy]

It feels to me that you should read "Gospodar" as "Gospodar" and not "Gospodor". There is clearly an "A" in there like in "America". Apart from that Great job Viking and best wishes from Poland

[@shawnm1902]

Does the tszarina also keep with the traditional kislev past time of hopping in place to stay warm?

[@absolutelyyousless7605]

Of course, what woman of Kislev wouldn’t do such a helpful thing for her fellow countrymen

[@alvinlin8140]

Shawn M I don’t get it

[@shawnm1902]

@@alvinlin8140 nuffle weeps for your soul

[@absolutelyyousless7605]

Alvin Lin Not only does the action of jumping restart your own circulation, but for men seeing a hot woman doing it will certainly get the blood pumping... if you know what I mean.

[@alvinlin8140]

Absolutely Yousless damn so does the Tsarina have male concubines or something? The thought of it being the other day at around is just wierd to me

[@94razors_40]

We need a history of kislev video. From the sounds of the judicial system it'll be amusing and informative

[@00784865]

Yes-yes Skaven Arch is back-back and he covers something about my people.

[@xavierrodriguez8432]

Man thing knows to much yes-yes, Eshin silence man thing for the horned rat

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

Ah, more laws regarding my cousins from up north & the Empires allayed neighbours against the spikey madmen coming from the ice caps, Very good Arch! :D

[@michaelkimberling7307]

You weren’t kidding about us normal humans being brutal arch. My personal favorite? Scaphism.

[@szerdahelyisoma]

Oh, boy. I wish there would be a Kislev in Total War: Warhammer, which could at least slightly represent it's true nature.

[@darthrevan3342]

0:04 Damnnever noticed that.

[@daswordofgork9823]

Could you imagine if Bitch and Trash, from Rising of the Shield Hero, were put on trial in Kislev. That would just be hilarious

[@thesecondguywhoknowsthings7154]

Death

[@daswordofgork9823]

the second guy who knows things Or Bitch gets raped by wild horses and Trash has to watch from beginning to end. Possibly have him come in at round two.

[@dogalrorn]

Gospodar means Lord/Master in Croatian.

[@takogonikanetniukogo]

In Ukrainian as well. I suspect many southern Slavic languages has similar words too. Funny enough, not Russian tho.

[@drugmate9710]

I just came here for all the slavs in the comments saying what this word means in slavic languages.

[@dogalrorn]

@@drugmate9710 Are you pleased?

[@drugmate9710]

@@dogalrorn I am indeed.

[@betchersgland7236]

@@takogonikanetniukogo it's not that different though - "gospodin". Come to think of it, it's pretty common for some fictional whateverthefuck to adopt a slavic word and mangle it in a way that makes a similar slavic word out of it, just from another language.

[@mikewaterfield3599]

At least she looks like something out of feudal Russia ahem Kislev. It makes way more sense. Plus the magic levels are toned down. Kislevite ice wizzards and hags were a thing back when they had their own army book.

[@vladimirthegreen6097]

Her armor looks 16 century Russian as well but more close to reality

[@cutlerwalton7313]

That’s a sexy intro cinematic you have there, Arch

[@honestkyn718]

Ah, finally, some good legal systems!

[@robertnelson9599]

What's wrong with "PURGE THE HERETICS"?

[@RambleOn07]

I firmly believe in the concept that: "there is no innocence, only degrees of guilt."

[@Drefsab]

I've only just noticed the #1 Grey Seer mug. Nice little detail there.

[@otiswhitt1129]

And the patience of the faithful was rewarded

[@marcinzysko1653]

10:00 I assume rogue activity in Kislev must be high.

[@themaskedpinapple]

Thanks for sticking with Warhammer Fantasy. Me and my game group love the lore videos and we still play 8th edition.

[@Dcoleman139]

Love the intro man! Not sure if it’s brand new but I’m working on catching up with my back log of your videos!

[@thecrazednative357]

Have we figured out what clan he is in? The Rat Ninjas must know where to go if he is being naughty

[@Zakvadr1995]

He is a self declared Grey Seer. So good luck with that!

[@Rex1987]

the new animated video is super nice! more of a look into Gospodar and Kislevite society is cool :) more videos on Kislev would be great :D

[@Khanclansith]

So Arch is now a Skaven CGI replacement?

[@squirrel_killer-]

He's done this for the last 4 or 5 WHF lore videos now.

[@thomasschmidlin3296]

I like it

[@LethargicGM]

Only for fantasy videos.

[@КалинкаМоя]

Arch is a Furry Confirmed!!

[@RambleOn07]

@@КалинкаМоя Not a furry, he wears a man-suit sometimes though.

[@GARfearfak]

In the middle ages, one of the common practices to critique was to blame the "evil counselors" wo abuse the powers the King has vested them with to do evil, instead of good, to the poeple of the realm. Because, of course not, it could not be the King, the god anointed ruler, who did wrong. Ergo no King did ever do wrong, there was merely the problem that some Kings were more prone to give in to "Evil counselors" then others

[@yardgharforge3157]

Tzar is good, boyar's are bad.

[@GARfearfak]

@@yardgharforge3157 yes, something along those lines

[@YiotisTheGnome]

Oh that Better Ice guard project update did trigger me a bit... I mean, she does have a quiver full of arrows or bots, where is her bow/crossbow? Unless those are javelins and I'm mistaken.

[@shadowofhawk55]

It’s a bow, Arch mentioned Bows.

[@TheCreepyLantern]

Well you've made me like Kislev far far less then I did at the video's start so good job there

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

Than*

[@TheCreepyLantern]

@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 you must be fun at parties

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

@@TheCreepyLantern I am, I'm guessing you aren't

[@TheCreepyLantern]

@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 it took you three days to come up with that kind of comeback huh

[@fritsgareld9564]

The only problem I have had about the ice gard member that arch made is the Speer thay aren’t making use of the offhand wich is just impractical a sheld would help a lot on that or it least if you’re going for a more elegant and practical weapon y not go for a ice edged bill huck halberd something thin and light ( for halberds ) but could still be used with a lot of strength if thay start fighting tougher things

[@dcbluenose1873]

I love how Arch is a Skaven now. They're the best faction.

[@grushpea5365]

Interesting fact. Gospodar in romanian is word we use to describe someone who's keeping his house tidy and in check. A hard worker, someone who fixes stuff and takes pleasure in it.

[@nostradamusofgames5508]

gotta love that fancy 3d animated background

[@bogdan9939]

In both Romanian and the southern slavic languages (Serbian, Bulgarian) "Gospodar" means householder

[@bogdan9939]

Also that's not how you pronounce it.....not even close

[@drugmate9710]

Lord or master would be more appropriate.

[@bogdan9939]

@@drugmate9710 I don't know, in Romanian I think householder is more appropriate. I mean Gospodină (feminine) literally translates to housewife.

[@drugmate9710]

@@bogdan9939 Yeah, I was mostly referring to Croatian/Serbian. Don't know much about Romanian.

[@КалинкаМоя]

Bogdan You’ll note, comrade, that it isn’t so in Russian, and since Russian is one true language, Gospodar is gibberish.

[@FuchsUndSo]

That indeed looked Hella nice for this winter guard

[@LordKamina2]

Gospodar's law is like Gospodar's love, hard and fast.

[@wesman2133]

Reminds me a mixture vermintied and warlock trailer cant wait to see arch play skaven with grimhammer.

[@johnrockwell5834]

This reminds me of the Mongol Yassa Law. Death penalty galore. Also Hospitality is sacred.

[@Navinor]

So we are finally getting Russia/Poland in Warhammer 😆

[@hansf.3436]

This is a mindfuck for me because gospodar in my language roughtly translates to ruler/owner . And so every time I hear Arches pronunciation my brain gets confused/triggered for a second

[@nightgoblinspearman]

Im pretty sure it keeps turning of my show all notifications

[@PanZbychu09]

No comment on new pump wagons for greenskin in total war?

[@absolutelyyousless7605]

“Theyz be ridin’ to Valhalla all shiny in chrome! They krump, they get krumped, they krump again!” (Literally just Mad Mork in WHF)

[@PsychoticStorm]

Its a really nice redesign of the original, well done, though I would still incorporate a halberd head.

[@greyknightjusticar8412]

Hey Arch, love the channel. Hey, could or would you do a lore video on the first and second battles of shadowbrink. Keep on keeping on bro.

[@Geraduss]

Ok for anyone who doesn't know it yet, Gospodar means Master, or Masters Law. And Arches pronounciation is painful.. its so wrong.

[@bogdan9939]

I agree that his pronounciation is terrible, but gospodar doesn't really mean master. I think householder or head of the house is a better translation in english. Master is too general, while the word gospodar is related to the household.... At least in Romanian

[@Geraduss]

@@bogdan9939 I suppose it has a varying meaning deppending on the Slavic language, where I'm from it generaly just means master.

[@bogdan9939]

@@Geraduss well Romania is not slavic so maybe we changed a bit the meaning?

[@Geraduss]

@@bogdan9939 No but it has plenty of borrowed Slavic words. And yeah so lets just agree his pronounciation is earbleeding heh.

[@liviuraileanu7766]

Haha, in romanian, gospodar is a very common word, especially in rural areas, and basically translates to householder or roughly "hard working man around the house" or even "hard working family man"

[@KS-PNW]

Great video arch! Any chance your going to explore some of the lesser known parts of the WHF world? I know you already did Nippon and Ind but what about Cathay? Or the snakemen of Kharesh? Anything in the south Pole? Thanks for all the work that goes into your channel 😃

[@dragb9284]

I never get tired of seeing arith head on the wall

[@maxmagnus3793]

Awesome artwork!

[@skyhunter2423]

Good job MajorKill

[@battlebrothertifesrolilios4423]

wold you say that the life of a brattanian pesent or a kislav pesint is worse.

[@Maffi96]

I now know more about some fantasy laws then i do about my own country.

[@alganhar1]

As an aside, Armour, historically it was always worn over a gambeson or some other similar padded garment. The two parts form a protective system, the metal componant protects against cuts and thusts, whilst the padding offers (at least some) protection to impact injuries, as well as making the armour *much* more comfortable to wear. That spear is a little short, about 8 feet was average, and a spear that short would be used alone but with a shield. Otherwise its pretty decent, fantasy armours for women are often wtf type things! Personally I would eliminate the rounded 'breast' portion for something with a central ridge (like later full plate had). While this is not a bad armour for a woman, that sort of thing would not exist on a real suit because it would act in a similar manner to a shot trap on a tank, potentially deflecting an enemy cut or thrust not AWAY, but actually TOWARDS a vital area, in this case the sternum! nice to see the articulations on the breastplate are high, another common mistake. Some artists seem to think people do not need to bend whilst wearing armour!

[@FreshBarn]

Now that's a clean intro

[@darkinnovator2479]

And here we have a very far left female ruler keeping a firm grip on those not smothered in snow, Norscans or Chaos Warriors. Ah well, at least the Empire is somewhat democratic fascism in a completely over the top manner. I feel sorry for Franz for his day-to-day political labyrinths, but I imagine it is quite interesting to observe.

[@princeofayossia7314]

A novel focusing on the back door imperial politics would be a worthwhile read

[@darkinnovator2479]

@@princeofayossia7314 It would be glorious, to be sure.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

the empire fascist? i don't think fascism means what you think it means.

[@darkinnovator2479]

@@matthiuskoenig3378 Probably true. Because on one hand, the Empire is centralised in its end game, most its laws and human superiority. On the other it is anything but, hmm...

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

​@@matthiuskoenig3378fascism is having a good time with your bros. As Karl has a good time with his bros pretty often, the Empire is very fascist.

[@oldered5663]

What is the song that plays at the end of your videos, I love it!

[@DastardlyDistaste]

Arch, could you include a link to the redesign pictures either to the comment section or your video description? It would make it easier to share if one could just send a link of the redesign directly.

[@red833]

I'm very happy with is new design and look of the iceguard. 👍👍👍😀

[@thethrongler3070]

Who's the artist that did the much improved Ice Guard or whatever the hell GeeDubs is calling them? I'd love to commission them!

[@marsfreelander5969]

25:09 im dead

[@jamestown8398]

What if two nobles give the same peasant contradictory orders at the same time?

[@xtremebanana1998]

...but it's *still* better than to be born in Br*ttonia

[@shadowofhawk55]

I’d rather be a Bretonnian Knight than a Kislevite Peasanr

[@X-11]

wooden spike execution best execution!! Pan Wołodyjowski

[@potatogeneral4072]

Man I'd want to play as kislev that would be lit

[@laviljoski6952]

Gospodar means master

[@DominikKost]

Gospodarz in Polish means a host.

[@laviljoski6952]

@@DominikKost in serbian it means master

[@bogdan9939]

@@laviljoski6952 in Romanian it means householder

[@MrNeunauge]

He is back!

[@BaileyBecca]

Oooh this new intro tho. Also ya I prefer this version of the ice warriors

[@art4freak795]

Reasonably designed armour is sexy too

[@Fredministrator]

This is a great upgrade

[@garrettmcmurry1436]

Who are you Duardin? I’m the Ice Queen of Kislev. By Gotrek Gurneson.

[@helldrake77777]

Go-spo-dAr, not Go-spo-dOr mate. Hard 'A' in the pronounciation. The reworked version of the ice guard tho - much more preferable than the thing GW is trying to shill.

[@SXsoft99]

fun fact the word "Gospodar" is a word in the romanian vocabulary referring to "a person that is handy in his household"

[@kenspiracy2792]

Kislev sounds pretty metal...

[@beltempest4448]

Love the animation

[@birgaripadam7112]

great video

[@dropdead234]

Giant mutated rats, and Nords. There's a difference!?

[@Amokhunter]

Finally! Arch shows us his real face.

[@goofyhyena8493]

Love the cg skaven

[@ANDELE3025]

Isnt it Gospodar/Ruler law instead of Gospodor? Was that just Arch-nounciation?

[@thomasschmidlin3296]

Love the scaven arch

[@Andri474]

Yes, please show us more well designed Ice Guard women. Maybe SOMEONE at Game's Workshop will slap themselves and say "Hey, this is pretty good!"

[@Picassoturtlenumba5]

Oh Shit the new Arch Warhammer DLC dropped.

[@RyanTheMan000]

*Arch Warhammer, Attorney at law*

[@urorazbojnik5678]

One minor correction if I may....the O's in gOspOdar are pronounced as "Oh" and the A in gospodAr is pronounced as "Ah" ...love your channel bw

[@buddyburroughs6072]

Spreads image yes-yes? Underempire GW we should! Leaves pictures in places secretly yes-yes? Makes the man-things have ideas yes-yes?