Was the Snake of Genesis 3 a Spiritual Being?

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[@leerises]

was a reptilian, they hide underground and under pale suits as greys, they lost the ability to return into space and forced to stay here on earth inprisioned and feeding on humans

[@xspydazx]

also snakes do talk !! in indian tradition it was the snake which brought language to mankind! perhaps youi dont understand primative cultures and languages of animals ! .. the first people were not hunters or gatherers ... they were just people living in the dreamtime !... so they talked to the animals as well as nature !

[@xspydazx]

​@TheDeacon-z4t the tree is not a meta phor it is a reality ! I ont think you understand the garden of eden : or life it self here ? As you will find in many of the creatio storys which mention trees ! One importat thing was that the people and tribes of the world wewre geenrally living very innocently ! they did not rememeber the past or even name things ! - in fact only the things they had in their imedate vicenitiy ! But there was a fruit or tree that they ate one day ! it woke them up !-- This is said to be grapes ! - as there are two things which helped to wake people up .... bread and wine !

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@TheDeacon-z4t Yahweh ??? i dont kow which translation you are reading !

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@@garyzimmerman62 From Cain up until the pharisees theres no doubt we see Satan's actions and envy. Pharisee spirit is still well and alive

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[@danieljust295]

In fact studying the Bible doesn’t leave much time for materialism

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@@danieljust295 I agree. It doesn’t leave much inclination towards materialism, either, imho

[@twocents4743]

Can you explain Genesis 3:1: "Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made"? Also, can you explain Genesis 3:14, where it says that the serpent is "more cursed" than all the cattle, and "more cursed" than every beast of the field." How does the field beast fit into this story?

[@danielzechariah7263]

Read Job when GOD asks Satan where has he been. Satan said i have been going to and from the earth. Then go read Revelation 12:7-10. Then Isaiah 14:12-14. Then back to Revelation 6:13 and Revelation 8:12. Then read Ephesians 6, and see the prophecy of those stars/angels/principalities coming down spoken by Jeremiah 13:18-22. Think about Satan both in the spirit and in the physical. For he is the god of this world working in they who are not saved.

[@kylehutchinson5016]

I believe the animals in the Garden could speak, like in Narnia. This is why Eve wasn’t disturbed when the snake spoke to her. But this particular snake must have been possessed by Satan. I think the snake gave permission for Satan to enter it. This is why the animal itself was cursed. Satan is a dragon, and perhaps there was a special affinity between the two. Sometimes I wonder if the animals were created after the likeness of angels, as man is created in the image of God. Maybe this is part of the reason why Satan hated man, because he saw God’s image bearers ruling over his own.

[@danieljust295]

Kyle Hutchinson I think exactly the same. The Bible has a few stories involving animals: - speaking snake (garden of Eden) - speaking donkey (who saw the angel of the Lord and warned Balaam) - possessed pigs (demons were commanded to Enter pigs) - two bears (“executors” of Elisha’s curse) The conclusion is that animals can be possessed by a spirit or an angel and can talk and do what’s commanded to them. Interestingly in Catholic tradition it is believed that animals can talk during Christmas. To me, snake in the garden of Eden could be possessed by Satan and apparently it wasn’t strange to hear speaking animal, neither Adam nor Eve saw this suspicious. Notice that during the creation days, aquatic-reptilian animals are not mentioned. Why ? At what point were they created ? In Revelation 16, “three unclean spirits like frogs” are mentioned. Do the look of aquatic-reptilians animals reflects “the look” of some spirits ? I think we can now say confidently, that a snake in the garden of Eden has been possessed by Satan’s spirit and literally spoke to Eve. This is biblical narrative. The snake was also cursed by God, the LORD God cursed the serpent in Gen 3:14, “Because you have done this, “Cursed are you above all livestock and all wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. It seems the snake allowed Satan to posses him and if “crawling on belly” is curse, then that would mean before the curse snake could even have legs and stand - so the snake indeed could reflect the look of the spirit.

[@konawolv]

Beasts can be demonstrated to be, in some cases, bi-peds that can work with and mate with mankind. The parable of the wheat and the tares speaks about a corrupt seed placed in the world. It looks like the good seed that Yahweh planted. Then going back through history, we have groups of people whom were considered "people" until around the 1500's

[@luka243]

​@@danieljust295 this is interesting im basically trying to imagine a snake with legs and its freaking me out lmao

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[@danieljust295]

The Bible has a few stories involving animals: - speaking snake (garden of Eden) - speaking donkey (who saw the angel of the Lord and warned Balaam) - possessed pigs (demons were commanded to Enter pigs) - two bears (“executors” of Elisha’s curse) The conclusion is that animals can be possessed by a spirit or an angel and can talk and do what’s commanded to them. Interestingly in Catholic tradition it is believed that animals can talk during Christmas. To me, snake in the garden of Eden could be possessed by Satan and apparently it wasn’t strange to hear speaking animal, neither Adam nor Eve saw this suspicious. Notice that during the creation days, aquatic-reptilian animals are not mentioned. Why ? At what point were they created ? In Revelation 16, “three unclean spirits like frogs” are mentioned. Do the look of aquatic-reptilians animals reflects “the look” of some spirits ? I think we can now say confidently, that a snake in the garden of Eden has been possessed by Satan’s spirit and literally spoke to Eve. This is biblical narrative.

[@martinc6987]

everything that creeps on the earth includes reptiles.

[@danieljust295]

Martin C Can we say that serpent creeps ? Or rather slither?

[@martinc6987]

@@danieljust295 Word Origin from ramas Definition creeping things, moving things NASB Translation creeping thing (5), creeping things (9), creeps (1), moving thing (1), swarms (1). Did it move ???? Go to the original meaning and how it is used.And dont twist the WORD of GOD to support a certain believe. Reptiles are animals,the serpent did not slide before GOD cursed it.

[@danieljust295]

Martin C What is the original word in Hebrew then ?

[@martinc6987]

@@danieljust295 I c&p it already

[@okiehayseed1]

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[@brando3342]

My answer, is BOTH. The snake was both physical and spiritual.

[@ilmpyt]

I agree. He could've possessed an animal; did they not possess pigs when Jesus cast them out from the Gadarenes?

[@bobgriffith1810]

@@ilmpyt The pigs where not articulate,, nor did they attempt to quote scripture,, they ran over a cliff,,, lol Try again

[@kwood6253]

@@ilmpyt I’m not sure of the differences between Satan and demons but I would make a distinction that the pigs were possessed by demons.

[@ilmpyt]

@@bobgriffith1810 yeah right, because every demon is exactly the same, just like humans are all the same. Try again.

[@ilmpyt]

@@kwood6253 as a fallen angel, Satan is also a demon. He also used Peter's mouth and possessed Judas during the Last Supper. There's no difference in nature.

[@3.ONE4ONE5NINE2SIX5]

Here's a thought. If you take a Dragons wings, arms and legs away, it is nothing more than a slithering serpent.

[@Bunni504]

Dragon are more intelligent. Snakes aren’t. They have never been smart. Also notice how the Bible said the serpent instead of serpents and didn’t use the word other.

[@forwardsdrawkcab]

I think lizards can be considered serpents too.

[@WWJD799]

Genesis 3:1-19 Eating fruit was not the original sin. Adultery was. How could the serpent have a sexual union with Eve? It was only after God cursed it that he became a snake. “Upon thy belly shalt thou go (he didn’t go on his belly before this) and dust thou shalt eat all the days of thy life.” (Genesis 3:14). Before this, he was more subtle than any beasts (not reptiles) of the field (Genesis 3:1). He could also talk, reason and persuade. (Genesis 3:1-5). He walked upright, he talked and he was intelligent. He was between the animal kingdom and the human. Satan was in the garden (Ezekiel 28:13-17) and used the Serpent to mix his seed with the woman’s seed. The sin exposing their nakedness was adultery. ‍Apples didn’t cause them shame; it was the loss of innocence. They didn’t cover their mouths. The Serpent ate with Eve, then she shared with her husband. Two children were born. One evil and one good. Cain was the son of the devil (John 8:44), the wicked one (1 John 3:12). He was never recorded in the genealogy of Adam. Genealogies do not differ good sons from bad, they are based on the identity of the biological father. ‍Adam was the son of God (Luke 3:38) and his son was Seth, who took the place of Abel (Genesis 5:3 and Jude 14). Eve is the mother of all living (Genesis 3:20) but Adam was not the father of all living. He knew her for the second time and she had her third son (Genesis 4:24). ‍JESUS had to be born of a virgin - the Remedy for our sin bypassed the original sin. We are shaped in iniquity and conceived in sin (Psalms 51:5). Men are typed as trees. (Psalms 1:1-3) Women are typed as a Garden enclosed. (Song of Solomon 4:12) Eve's punishment affected her in childbearing (Genesis 3:16) The fruit of the Womb are children. (Psalms 127:3)…an adulterous woman, she eateth, and wipeth her mouth…. (Proverbs 30:20) ‍The idea that Eve ate an apple is a trumped-up doctrine by a church that places no value in the scriptures. Much of the Bible is written in parables and types and shadows, but this is no reason to believe fables and church dogma instead of the Word of God. The LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, cursed are you above all livestock and above all beasts of the field; on your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. [I WILL PUT ENMITY BETWEEN YOU AND THE WOMAN, AND BETWEEN YOUR OFFSPRING AND HER OFFSPRING]; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.” ~ Genesis 3:14-15 "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, [THEY SHALL MINGLE THEMSELVES WITH THE SEED OF MEN]: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay." ~ Daniel 2:43 The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares ~ "But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ~ Matthew 13:25-30 The Parable of the Tares Explained ~ "Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.” He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. [THE FIELD IS THE WORLD], the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, [BUT THE TARES ARE THE SONS OF THE WICKED ONE. THE ENEMY WHO SOWED THEM IS THE DEVIL], the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!" ~ Matthew 13:36-43 "The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies." ~ Psalm 58:3 "We should not be like Cain, [WHO WAS OF THE EVIL ONE] and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own deeds were evil and his brother’s righteous." ~ 1 John 3:12 "For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." ~ 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12 "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the [COSMIC POWERS] over this present darkness, against the [SPIRITUAL FORCES OF EVIL IN THE HEAVENLY PLACES]." ~ Ephesians 6:12 🛸👽😈🐉

[@davidjanbaz7728]

​@@WWJD799sure buddy!

[@Orthosaur7532]

@@WWJD799 It didn't have any sexual relations with Eve, what are you talking about?

[@MaskedMarble]

00:08 - "How does it work to have the sun created after we have days?" That question is presumptive. Read the passage. It answers the question. It says the lights in the sky are "to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years." Problem solved! Let's spell it out. It is saying that God made the sun, moon, and stars to MARK the days and years and seasons. Not to DEFINE the days. Not to CREATE the days. Not to be the ORIGIN of days, but to MARK (measure) the days. Our mental block stems from the unquestioned assumption that the sun CREATES a day rather than MARKS a day. The celestial bodies are SIGNS of these periods of time, not the generators of those periods of time themselves. The sun, moon, and stars are observable markers (signs) that allow us to observe the passage of the pre-existing segments of time known as days, years, sacred times, and seasons. God created spacetime before he created the sun that exists within spacetime and marks its passage.

[@theodorab.2747]

I believe literally where the Bible speaks literally. So yes the snake was as John said. And you definitely can't put so called science, in front of Scripture. Your absolutely correct, I always thought the same thing.

[@garyzimmerman62]

Here is my take on the "being" in the Garden of Eden. It was a flying serpent. Whether it was fiery or not, I have no idea but I do believe it was a winged serpent. I will get to why in a moment, but first a bit about Eve. This type of being was either common to Eve or all possibilities were in her mind. This being spoke to her also, so in my mind it was a flying talking serpent. Eve just chats with it. No astonishment or surprise, and fear wasn't even a thing yet but she just has a talk with it. So whether it was a Serephim or not, it could have been a member of God's Heavenly Host (as Satan hadn't turned yet and you would think that an angel of that rank and perfection could have been...) or it could have been an animal that was common then but it was now speaking.... Now, why I think it was a flying serpent? First, that pretty much the definition of a Dragon, which seems to be a common animal throughout the world, and the Bible refers to Satan as "The Dragon" a few times. Also, God cursed the animal to crawl on its belly forever after. Now if the animal were a lizard, salamander, or even (as some people teach, as I "learned) a snake with legs and claws, or feet, that curse would just not be that much worse. All reptiles with legs and feet come pretty close to crawling on their bellies already...... BUT if you could FLY and you were forced to live forever after crawling on your belly..... THAT would be a curse MUCH worse, in relation to the alternatives.

[@animalcart4128]

Here is a comprehensive view about the nature of the serpent in Genesis 3: 1. Genesis 3A: The Serpent kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWO3Y5WNbceenKM

[@AnAsthmatic]

Or if you were a spiritual being used to being in the throne room of YHVH and suddenly you're made the personification of death and are lower than the dust of the earth that all animals and Mankind are made from, that's pretty bad too.

[@markwoodruff1984]

That a very good take on it

[@JohnDoe-wt9ek]

If you took all the descriptions literally, yes. That would work. But the Hebrews were well known for metaphor and allegory to portray what they were getting at. And they have at least a dozen names for Lucifer himself throughout the Bible, including "The Dragon". A good example of taking this literally would be proclaiming that God is, literally, a Strong Tower. That he is a Rock. Or that he is a disembodied Hand. Much of the Old Testament (even prophesy and the Psalms) are packed full of metaphor and allegory. And considering that Revelation relies heavily on metaphor, allegory, and descriptors of future events with time period explanation (like Daniel, with the 5 different beasts and the 5 different parts of a grand statue, explaining the 5 great global empires that will rise and fall in human history), it would make sense to apply the same allegorical and metaphorical descriptors of Lucifer made in Revelation, to his first appearance in Genesis 3. Understanding that, its much easier to see that this was Lucifer, before the Angelic Rebellion, who manipulated humanity before trying to overtake the Throne of Heaven itself. The curse, more so, explains exactly what Lucifer has become, him and his angels. Which also makes sense. Considering that to be made so little and so incomprehensibly low to even the very dust of Creation, by the Creator, is quite an insult and quite a punishment for one that attempted to perform a coup against the Creator Himself. Curses are not always literal either. A curse can use descriptive elements to tell you what you will be as, or what will befall you later.

[@micky3096]

After listening to videos such as this one, and from reading the Scriptures for over 30 years, I have pondered on this: 1. That the Serpent's wings were let her cut off, your made useless, resulting this being to fall to the Earth like lightening. Hence, the need to crawl on his belly in an effort to travel from one place to another. 2. That eating dust, could also indicate that humans, and animals being his only food source, for we (our physical bodies are literally made from dust), instead of this Searpent eating the manna from Heaven. Just some thoughts...

[@archam777]

The serpent is a seraphim.......which literally means burning serpent/shining one. The serpent wasnt an animal, it WAS "The anointed cherub that covers", Ezekiel 28 literally says so word for word.

[@JayKam79]

But I thought seraphim are not cherubs?🤔

[@archam777]

@@JayKam79 Heiser has said Cheribum is also a job description, meaning "Throne Guardian".

[@archam777]

​@@JayKam79 Notice the "creatures" holding up the Throne in the visions of God in the OT, has representations of most creature types, eagle(birds),lion(wild beasts), Ox(domesticated animals), and Man......representing all typse of creatures that have "the breath of life", except one type. Reptiles. Seraphim are "the Cheribum" that represent that creature type. So, we only know the name of the creatures as Cheribum with the multiple faces holding up the throne, but....the Seraphim are also there "Guarding the throne" flying around the throne singing "Holy Holy Holy". So, since they are still "guarding the throne" they are Cheribum, but also specifically said to also be Seraphim. At least, this is my understanding of it after years of researching everything I could find on the subject. Nakash, the hebrew word for serpent, means serpent and seraphim means shining one/burning one aka "burning serpent." Which is exactly the description of "the seraphim" that are flying around the throne of YHWH.

[@ArkansasSquaw]

Exactly!!!

[@danieljust295]

archam777 Excellent explanation. The Bible has a few stories involving animals: - speaking snake (garden of Eden) - speaking donkey (who saw the angel of the Lord and warned Balaam) - possessed pigs (demons were commanded to Enter pigs) - two bears (“executors” of Elisha’s curse) The conclusion is that animals can be possessed by a spirit or an angel and can talk and do what’s commanded to them. Interestingly in Catholic tradition it is believed that animals can talk during Christmas. To me, snake in the garden of Eden could be possessed by Satan and apparently it wasn’t strange to hear speaking animal, neither Adam nor Eve saw this suspicious. Notice that during the creation days, aquatic-reptilian animals are not mentioned. Why ? At what point were they created ? In Revelation 16, “three unclean spirits like frogs” are mentioned. Do the look of aquatic-reptilians animals reflects “the look” of some spirits ? I think we can now say confidently, that a snake in the garden of Eden has been possessed by Satan’s spirit and literally spoke to Eve. This is biblical narrative. The snake was also cursed by God, the LORD God cursed the serpent in Gen 3:14, “Because you have done this, “Cursed are you above all livestock and all wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. It seems the snake allowed Satan to posses him and if “crawling on belly” is curse, then that would mean before the curse snake could even have legs and stand - so the snake indeed could reflect the look of the spirit (or the shining one).

[@charlesmorris8791]

Great teaching, thank you very much for sharing. May The God of Peace, Grace, and Truth Bless you and your loved ones...

[@Watchingtheparadegoby]

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[@auh2o148]

The hebrew word for snake in this passage, 'nachash,' also means "Enchanter," more specifically it says "The Enchanter," so it was Satan herself, not in a different form, not a possession, but appearing as an angel of light to other beings of Light. Every hebrew word means more than one thing, but they'll have a common root. 'Enchanter' and 'snake' have "hissing and ear tickling" in common. Context is the key in every scripture! The being in this passage wasn't a physical snake at all, animals are used to refer to people and angels throughout the Bible, the same as we do today: if I say, "That dirty snake in the grass," you know I'm talking about a rotten person. This misinterpretation happens again with the 'bronze serpent' that Moses erects. The word for serpent in that passage is 'seraph,' which is also a type of angel. When you look at what a seraph looked like in Isaiah and Revelation, you'll be enlightened at the image that was actually on a pole, and what was actually afflicting the people as "fiery serpents."

[@Bunni504]

That sounds so cool.

[@smartwar]

how do you explain God's judgement to the snake, it sounds like to a physical animal.

[@auh2o148]

@smartwar snakes go on their belly, that's what they do; they didn't once have legs. Spiritually, Satan going on her 'belly' means being brought low from her heavenly estate as a Being of light, and forced to 'eat the dust.' We're the dust, and Satan goes forth like a lioness seeking whom she can devour. If you do well, will you not be accepted - and if you do not do well, Sin is seated at the door waiting for you, and her feet are rooted down in Hell. You see, all of this is about a sneaky, conniving creature laying in wait to catch weak ones who stray from the herd.

[@leonardobarbieri1292]

What a coincidence! I was just studying this topic of the serpent, leviathan and stuff.

[@mrvax2]

It happens often. I love it.

[@davidtompkins5000]

Me too. I'm just finishing up Piercing Leviathan by Eric Ortlund.

[@Warlogic12]

The serpent was cursed to eat dust, and man was formed from dust. What are your thoughts on this?

[@leonardobarbieri1292]

@@Warlogic12 The serpent would be the king of sheol, the abode of dead - meaning Satan. There's also a connection with Psalm 82, where it says that the evil angels would die like man - which is equivalent to the serpent eating dust. I think Kabane talks about this on his channel.

[@Warlogic12]

@@leonardobarbieri1292 Thank you.

[@Warlogic12]

Dr. Heiser could you give us a link for the seraphim serpent picture in the video's title screen.

[@lemnisgate8809]

It’s simple straightforward symbolism and metaphor. Yeshua called the scribes and Pharisees a “brood of vipers” does that mean they were literally talking snakes, no! Yet they had the characteristics of the serpent spoken of in genesis. I contend these indeed are of that ancient serpent and that serpent wasn’t an animal anymore than Christ is a Lion lamb hybrid creature.

[@lukewagner8871]

John 13:26-27 KJVS [26] Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon. [27] And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. If Satan can enter and control a man, why not a serpent? But to me the most important aspect of the 3rd chapter of Genesis is man acquiring the knowledge of good and evil. Genesis 3:22-23 KJVS [22] And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: [23] Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. It would seem to me Adam and Eve lacked the capacity to see that their actions, even though violating God’s direct command, were wrong. Which is somewhat beside the point. The knowledge of good and evil requires a maturity and experience in decision making man lacked at that time. Which God needed to remedy. Hebrews 5:12-14 KJVS [12] For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. [13] For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. [14] But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Even some members of the Hebrew church living in a large metropolis of Rome lacked the maturity to consistently make decisions deemed mature enough not to result in evil. But later in the book of Hebrews this is written. Hebrews 12:4-11 KJVS [4] Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. [5] And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: [6] For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. [7] If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? [8] But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. [9] Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? [10] For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. [11] Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. Read the last part again, afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. You cannot acquire the fruit of righteousness, fruit of the Spirit without the firm hand of God molding you on the potters wheel.

[@pauldsouza3770]

GOD has given our beloved Brother Michael the real knowledge of God in his scriptures. Really learning GOD IN HIS WORD THANK YOU LORD JESUS

[@jasonleveck8546]

Super cool, easy for a laymem, such as I to understand and ultimately very enlightening. I have often wonder if the serpent in genesis was more akin to, sort of what we may or may not think of, as what the image of dragon is. I've wondered, if the serpent was this majestic and powerful animal and due to allowing itself to be possessed by satan, that it was punished and became what we've always known as being a snake upon the ground? Great episode and totally makes sense. I don't have to wonder, any longer and I suppose it's all in the books, anyhow.

[@Bunni504]

It couldn’t be because snakes aren’t crafty and it said the serpent instead of serpents. The Bible didn’t even say any other. Just any. Yes God cause a donkey to talk, but Again because God open it’s mouth. When demons posses animals they cause them to go insane.

[@keneutervalve9459]

I never heard of this man until I watched Ancient Aliens debunked, he 100% knows his stuff... and doesn't try and complicate things with words.

[@b.goodfellow465]

I have never doubted the serpent in the garden was Satan, or the Serpent was being controlled by, or possessed by spirit of the Satan. 🙏🙏🙏

[@lawnmower5197]

Can you explain the punishment handed down to the snake?

[@jaiyaalexandra144]

Same same

[@gabriels5105]

@@lawnmower5197 A few things may be incorrectly understood by this man. When a person's body dies they see that their natural body was based on there spirt body but worse and fallen so the biology is based on the spirit anyways. If the serpant had a spirit body it would still be like the spirit if it had a body. Another missunderstood thing is man is above the animals. Before falling man could speak to creation through his soul. The animals could not speak his language. The man was higher and could speak their language being above them. Man could speak to animals but the animals could not speak to man in his language. The devil could not get into the Garden. The serpent and the devil were speaking outside the garden and the serpent decided to speak the devils message. Thats why it had to pay. The animals had their choices too like the angels. It was not controlled. Those other times in the bible where animals speak are different.

[@Jus4kiks]

@@lawnmower5197 do snakes eat dust?

[@davidjanbaz7728]

​@@gabriels5105you obviously R the one misunderstanding!!!

[@Watchergirl]

So many questions. Why did he say go on your belly? How does he relate to the Watchers who were protecting men after Adam and Eve

[@borisdisko4322]

The meaning of the name Seraph is synonymous with serpent. Seraphim angels are serpents, and its more than just Satan. Enoch tells us the serpent in the garden was named Gadreel.

[@WWJD799]

Genesis 3:1-19 Eating fruit was not the original sin. Adultery was. How could the serpent have a sexual union with Eve? It was only after God cursed it that he became a snake. “Upon thy belly shalt thou go (he didn’t go on his belly before this) and dust thou shalt eat all the days of thy life.” (Genesis 3:14). Before this, he was more subtle than any beasts (not reptiles) of the field (Genesis 3:1). He could also talk, reason and persuade. (Genesis 3:1-5). He walked upright, he talked and he was intelligent. He was between the animal kingdom and the human. Satan was in the garden (Ezekiel 28:13-17) and used the Serpent to mix his seed with the woman’s seed. The sin exposing their nakedness was adultery. ‍Apples didn’t cause them shame; it was the loss of innocence. They didn’t cover their mouths. The Serpent ate with Eve, then she shared with her husband. Two children were born. One evil and one good. Cain was the son of the devil (John 8:44), the wicked one (1 John 3:12). He was never recorded in the genealogy of Adam. Genealogies do not differ good sons from bad, they are based on the identity of the biological father. ‍Adam was the son of God (Luke 3:38) and his son was Seth, who took the place of Abel (Genesis 5:3 and Jude 14). Eve is the mother of all living (Genesis 3:20) but Adam was not the father of all living. He knew her for the second time and she had her third son (Genesis 4:24). ‍JESUS had to be born of a virgin - the Remedy for our sin bypassed the original sin. We are shaped in iniquity and conceived in sin (Psalms 51:5). Men are typed as trees. (Psalms 1:1-3) Women are typed as a Garden enclosed. (Song of Solomon 4:12) Eve's punishment affected her in childbearing (Genesis 3:16) The fruit of the Womb are children. (Psalms 127:3)…an adulterous woman, she eateth, and wipeth her mouth…. (Proverbs 30:20) ‍The idea that Eve ate an apple is a trumped-up doctrine by a church that places no value in the scriptures. Much of the Bible is written in parables and types and shadows, but this is no reason to believe fables and church dogma instead of the Word of God. The LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, cursed are you above all livestock and above all beasts of the field; on your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. [I WILL PUT ENMITY BETWEEN YOU AND THE WOMAN, AND BETWEEN YOUR OFFSPRING AND HER OFFSPRING]; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.” ~ Genesis 3:14-15 "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, [THEY SHALL MINGLE THEMSELVES WITH THE SEED OF MEN]: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay." ~ Daniel 2:43 The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares ~ "But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ~ Matthew 13:25-30 The Parable of the Tares Explained ~ "Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.” He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. [THE FIELD IS THE WORLD], the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, [BUT THE TARES ARE THE SONS OF THE WICKED ONE. THE ENEMY WHO SOWED THEM IS THE DEVIL], the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!" ~ Matthew 13:36-43 "The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies." ~ Psalm 58:3 "We should not be like Cain, [WHO WAS OF THE EVIL ONE] and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own deeds were evil and his brother’s righteous." ~ 1 John 3:12 "For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." ~ 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12 "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the [COSMIC POWERS] over this present darkness, against the [SPIRITUAL FORCES OF EVIL IN THE HEAVENLY PLACES]." ~ Ephesians 6:12 🛸👽😈🐉

[@belovedflorence4109]

And you got that from the bible? Adultery, son of satan and God? So were Cain's descendants looking different from others? A spirit being having sex with a physical being and producing children? Where is that theology coming from? Definitely not the bible.

[@davidwillhite421]

It is interesting that the book of Enoch, chapter LXIX says the one who led Eve astray was not Lucifer (Samjâzâ in Enoch), but rather, it was a lesser ranking demon named Gâdreêl. "6. And the third was named Gâdreêl: he it is who showed the children of men the blows of death, and he led astray Eve."

[@Phill0old]

Can somebody provide me with a link to this alleged evangelical resource that says snakes used to be able to talk?

[@wtjarratt2375]

This information has changed my spiritual rebirth in understanding the spiritual world and the battles we fight every year against the powers of darkness

[@jsmyers777]

How do we know that the "ancient serpent" John writes about in Rev. 12 is a reference to the nachash in the garden? John does not say, "oh yeah, the serpent from the garden," does he?

[@poohbear4702]

Does anyone know where that thumbnail picture comes with the Hebrew on it? I was curious to read it.

[@fogit4668]

In Ezekiel Satan is described with many colors of jewels which if you look at snakes you will fine colors of jewels in them. So with my God who controls everything. Are you saying that Satan/serpent could not of originally had legs and that after the Eden encounter with Adam and Eve, God could not of taken away Satan's legs?

[@jaybon2076]

It is worth mentioning though, that the Snake is identified as a "Beast of the field." We all know that is not an accident. I would be interested to hear Dr. Heiser's thoughts on the idea that there is some judgment on the animals because there was some sort of complicity in the fall of man and the rebellion against God. After the flood God specifically tells Noah that they can now eat meat. I'm not saying this as a certainty, I'm just trying to connect the dots.

[@grs6262]

Let me preface by saying i agree with Dr. H.. but the striking of the heel and the crushing of the head, plus the enmity between woman and serpent has been a bit of irritant over the years😏

[@hartfartpoptart]

It says "Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field..." Genesis 3:1 (NKJV). It doesn't say he was one of them, it says he was more cunning than them.

[@stumpintheearth1088]

@@hartfartpoptart When you study Scripture you come to the realization that the Beast described in Revelation is godless man and man is the most subtle beast of the field.

[@hartfartpoptart]

@@stumpintheearth1088 But the Beast is not the same entity as the Serpent/Satan/Devil. Rev 20:10

[@stumpintheearth1088]

@@hartfartpoptart I believe the serpent is the lust within the mind of man, the Beast. Remembering that the serpent or satan is also called the tempter. Look what James 1: 14 says. James 1:14 14 But every man is *tempted (by the serpent), when he is drawn away of his own lust* and enticed. *Here we see that the serpent is man's own lust* It sure is good to see believers look at Scripture in a new way, in these last days.

[@Bunni504]

Paul said that it was the serpent and not a serpent. It’s like it wasn’t mere snake.

[@liviaevangelista1561]

God bless you, Dr. Heiser!

[@56username]

How Can Crawling on a Snakes belly be punishment to a Snake 🤔🤫 Just maybe you will rethink the bread crumbs trail in Genesis . I’m leaving you some information for you Brothers & Sisters , for your enjoyment, I am not saying you are wrong , you may have to do some of your own research 🤔 An animal that was beautiful and Non - threatening and had a beautiful Voice Let us start out asking , We know Disney is Demonic , why is Disney Promoting the Beast?Questions about Disney 😳 have you ever heard about Beauty & the Beast 🤫 this is mostly about the beast , keep in mind , What did Moses see after he came down out of the Mountain ? He saw a calf covered with gold 😮 These are clues😳🤔 Why do Pagan religions worship a Calf ? 🤔😉 Ever heard of Baphomet what does this beast look like , think of the women movement , Baphomet has utters , And a set of Horns also holding a wooden pole with two snakes 🤔 what a copy cat. 😮🥲 Now it will get very interesting 😉 Go into your index of your Bible KJV . look at the (all words ) that describe beguiled It Means : Tricked Serpent : Deceiver a SLY or Treacherous Spirit essentially one Exploits a position of Trust in order to betray it 🤫😮 Subtil : Means :Crafty Clever Genesis 3:13 And the Lord said unto the Woman what is this that thou hast done ? And the woman said, the Serpent Beguiled Me ( or Tricked Me ) And I did eat. Now Sin entered and the curse was applied. It Getting Good Pay Attention to these words ( Above all CATTLE and Above Every Beast.) Genesis 3:14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou has Done this, ( tricked EVE & ADAM ) thou art cursed (Above all cattle, and above every beast of the field ; ) upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy Life . Hang in there 🤔😳😃😮 Remember this word and look at it , this animal is larger than Cattle look It Up : Kudu We assume the serpent was a snake AND A VERY LARGE SERPENT and had legs, why did God say cursed it above ALL CATTLE and ABOVE EVERY BEAST OF THE FIELD , if it have had legs God Removed his legs to crawl on his belly all the days of his life face on the ground. Could he Be a super WORM , a few of us will see Satan on JUDGEMENT Day and will say , THIS IS THE WORM that kept us in bondage . Why would God have Moses make a brazen snake for people to look up to when bitten if Satan was an actual snake? Now let’s look at the Kudu So could he have been an animal that look like Kudu Beautiful animal, what was Satan the most beautiful cherub. May be when Eve talked with this beautiful Animal, he had very fine Fur , a soft nose muzzle, a main like a lion, And look at Those horns , Baphomet has horns like that 😳🤔🤔🤔😮he may have skin like Leopard 😮😳 under his hair 🤔 Then God may have cursed him and Took his legs and left just the hoof. NOW there may be a really old Kudu out there .That is a huge spotted worm that looks like a goat looking thing with a mane. Now 6000 years later , he is a darn worm dragon with horns & hooves for legs with he’s nose on ground eating Dust ! Ezekiel 1:7 The sole of a calf’s foot Keep up the Good Work Food for Thought JESUS Gets All THE GLORY It all is a woven Mystery Colossians 1 : 26,27,28 Hid From ages and Generations If all Believers have Holy Sprit 😃 Who is this Hope Of Glory 🤔😳😮🥲😉 share share Share He is for NOW Rapture any Second It is not Death , it Is LIFE Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are born in the Sprit BORN AGAIN Seek And You Will Find Jesus Is TRUTH He is The WAY HE is The Life

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[@still_learning7101]

According to the Book of Jubilees, animals had the ability to talk before the Fall of Adam and Eve. There was also that time when God opened the mouth of Balaam’s donkey in Numbers, so I wouldn’t be surprised if snakes and other animals could talk too. It sure is something to consider. Note: It’s best to read other spiritual books with a discerning eye/mind and a biblical standard of truth.

[@faithhopelove7286]

Animals talk in movies... probably more "truth" in movies than we realize... nothing new under the sun... it's a supernatural story from the beginning... 🙇‍♀️

[@Bunni504]

Yeah but those books aren’t canon. Also the donkey only talk because God made her talk. He didn’t posses her. No animal would allow a spirit to control them. They would go crazy.

[@Bunni504]

@@faithhopelove7286 There is no truth to it. No where in the Bible does it mention that it was normal for animals to talk.

[@still_learning7101]

@@Bunni504 Not canon but historical fact for the ancients. Of course that doesn’t mean you can read and believe any old book. The standard of truth has and will always be God’s work. The Book of Jubilees was just a book of historical records and law written by Moses. As for what you said about the Bible never mentioning that it was normal for animals to talk, I already mentioned that there was Balaam’s donkey in Numbers. Also the serpent could have had the ability of speech on its own before satan came along and influenced it. All of this of course is just pure conjecture and we might never know for sure. Only God knows everything.

[@Tyreemorris68]

can anyone tell me where in Logos or any bible commentary Dr Heiser was quoting this? 1:36

[@JohnDoe-wt9ek]

That was a conclusion I came to a long while ago. Its not a literal snake, as so many Christians presumed the Serpent in the Garden of Eden to be. And its terrible that many Sunday Schools portray the Serpent in such a manner without correction. Even more so, this whole portrayal hearkens back to the Catholic Church. There are MANY things that have carried over into the Protestant Church from the Catholic Church that should've been reevaluated seriously and with the theological mind necessary to determine the veracity of the claims founded from a "Church" that was rapidly showing its growth of error and straying from the source material in favor of man made traditions and cardinal theology rather than Scriptural Theology.

[@michaelnoble2432]

"...the sun created after we have days. How does that work?" (03:46) Check Revelation 21:23 for a future time where there is LIGHT, but no sun or moon "for the splendour of God fills it with light". I'm absolutely STAGGERED that Heiser didn't make that connection.

[@konstantinoschristou3701]

Thank you for all. May you be well.

[@johnrider7619]

Jubilees 3:29 And on that day was closed the mouth of all beasts,and of cattle, and of birds, and of whatsoever walks, and of whatsoever moves, so that they could no longer speak: for they had all spoken one with another with one lip and with one tongue. (Cepher)

[@Bunni504]

That book isn’t canon.

[@johnrider7619]

@@Bunni504 That's true now. It was part of the Canon but it was removed in the 1800s. I understand 16 books were removed.

[@PantsPooper-o6x]

It does check out with canon, though. Balaam and the ass, specifically.

[@jpaul1599]

Why the question as to what the serpent in the Garden of Eden was like ? Firstly it says God cursed the serpent in Genesis 3:13 > And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: Explanation - whatever shape or form the serpent had before the curse it was not crawling on its belly else that curse of God would be ineffectual and secondly would God put a curse above all cattle and every beast on a reptile (assuming theologians think of it as a snake ); it was most likely a Dragon which had legs and in any event it is referred to as the dragon old serpent, Devil, Satan in Revelation 12:9 > And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Eve was dazzled by the beauty of the Dragon and deceived by his smooth talk about immortal existence. As it says in Ezekiel 28:13 > Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, ... the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. God did not disclose the above information as a passing observation to fill up space. It's there for a purpose. Remember Isaiah 28:10 > For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: A liitle work in putting the pieces together is all we need to do. Finally , we know from Scripture that angelic beings including cherub embody themselves in humans, beasts etc when they appear visibly before mankind. Satan (created as Lucifer) himself will appear as a man (Isaiah 14:13-16 > .... They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;) to reign for 10 days {Revelation 2:10 > Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the Devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.} before Christ's 2nd coming to rule from Jerusalem for a thousand years. Shalom

[@Bunni504]

This.

[@africanus7272]

Mike says, "...we have the sun created after we have days. I mean, how does that work?" I wish he would explain his comment since I'm certain he knows about the language of appearance. I would much appreciate an explanation of his view rather than a dismissive remark.

[@bennygreene1421]

The serpents vocabulary and voice was eliminated after he was cursed to the ground and made to go upon his belly.

[@TrovENT]

What if John was referring to the devil in the apocrypha who was actually cast down from a loftier place?

[@lawyerlib]

I'd like to see Michael Heiser debate Tovia Singer on the topic of Yehushua being foreshadowed as the Messiah in the Tanakh.

[@mpdebate6239]

The problem with this view is that it isn't historically based. The view of ancient jews was that Genesis was literal and its a 1st hand eyewitness testimony directly from God to Moses on Mount Sinai which is why Moses was on Mount Sinai for 40 days and 40 nights on 2 separate instances... Because he was writing down everything God told him about the beginning up to that point and also the laws for Israel. Josephus in his Antiquities of the Jews says that all the animals could speak the Adamic language in the beginning. Its obvious from ancient Jewish writings plus Josephus plus the internality of scripture that Genesis is meant to be literal history.

[@No-Channel19]

I need to hear Dr. Heiser explain the understanding of Genesis 1. I thought Genesis 1 is the explanation of astronomy.

[@jessielee8511]

Does the serpent referred to in Genesis actually have to be what we would today call a snake? Something very clever talked them into doubting God. Aren't there people who are malevolent and malicious that we would refer to as a snake? Certainly it was not a man or woman because Adam and Eve were the first. It was not a creature that God had created on the earth because he said that it was good. So it would seem to me it was not an earthly creation. My only conclusion was that the only being it could have been would have to be a spiritual being manifest as some thing that was intelligent enough to speak and deceive. Satan the serpent, not an actual snake (perhaps!) But the evil one.

[@user-wr5od7my4l]

That's a good thought. I appreciate this comment.

[@krisward7720]

The serpent may have been an animal that could talk in a human voice I think several cultures show pictures of dragon's that walked along side of men and possibly spoke to them . It does seem strange though.

[@ibperson7765]

They have no found soft tissue in *multiple* dinosaur fossils, including even collagen. Obviously they cannot be more than 100k years old max. And that’s being quite generous.

[@Louis.R]

Read René Girard. "Animal that can talk in human voices" is the pre-Adamic human, homo sacer, the first men who were practising sacrifice, and from whom Adam, biologically speaking, was born. "Nachash" means "diviner" as well as serpent.

[@Bunni504]

Yeah but only it wasn’t animal. Notice how it said it was crafty. Snakes aren’t crafty. Also why does it say any instead of any other? If it was apart of the animal kingdom it would have said any other beast.

[@Bunni504]

@@Louis.R There is no truth to that.

[@krisward7720]

@@Bunni504 it does say crafty than all cattle ,

[@thetheoreticaltheologian2458]

I agree with Dr. Heiser on this topic. I think he is an amazing teacher. There is however one little thing I’d like to suggest about the whole earth being created before the sun situation. Being a YEC “Young Earth Creationist” we have this question a lot. Well the quick answer is that yes we believe God created the earth first, before the sun/stars. How? Well first off God doesn’t need to go by our time keeping limitations which is based on the rotation of the earth and the rotation around the sun to make a day and a year. God knows how long the earth has been there and God knows how when the earth has made a complete rotation to say a 24 hour day has passed whether the sun exists or not. For even it says in the New Heavens and New Earth that there won’t even be a sun, rather God will fill us with light. Therefore I think it is entirely plausible for God to create the earth before the sun/stars and be able to sustain all things by His power/glory!

[@armandolima823]

I agree with you, the Earth is older than the sun, the moon and all the stars in the universe. This is so easily seen in Genesis 1 and 2, and yet has been perceived so wrong by historians and scholars alike throughout all of history. The six week creation week is not about the creation of the planet earth, but about the forming and shaping and filling earth with life. The earth was already created, empty and without form BEFORE God created the rest of the universe and mankind. However, this also means it does not have 6000 years, as the verses don't give any clue to when it was created. It could be 1 God's day, it could have been thousands or millions. It says in the beginning God created the heavens ( His angelical host ) and the Earth. Beginning of what exactly? Of His creating plan. What we do know is that the Earth is, at least, 12000 years ( 6000 years after mankind+ 6000 years before mankind ). This also tells us something. The universe was created by God as a background to Earth, and not the other way around, like the leveling of a field first, before building the fundation for a house. I believe the cosmos was made for a man constant reminder of God's greatness, because it was created by him, through him and FOR him. All the creation was made for HIS glory. This also means life will never be found in other planets, because they were never planned to have life to begin with. And finally, to put that theory that some believe to rest, angels (aliens) don't have by default a physical body or physical home. Their abode/ home is spiritual heaven where God is, therefore they don't live in any other planet of the universe. Fallen angels have fallen to Earth, not to Mars or anywhere else. The Gen6 watchers are bound in chains in the Earth, not Saturn or Jupiter. There is absolutely no life outside of Earth, and when the satanic "science" media will tell the world there is, you will know its Satan's angelic gang they are talking about. The end of the age is around the corner, and I would not estimate more than a decade to Yeshua to return. God bless you

[@danieljust295]

First of all the Bible says God created TWO lights, not one. Gen 1:16 God made two great lights-the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars Biblically the Earh is flat with the dome (the firmament) above it made of molten like sapphire glass. The seas are surrounded by the ice wall. The earth looks like a circle when seen from a top or like a pressed wax left be a seal. There are bars (pillars) under the Earth and the Earth has has four corners, the Earth is immovable and there is water below and above a firmament (notice ‘a’ not ‘the’). No one knows the true size of the Earth. There are no planets either, but only stars. We don’t know what we look at on the sky, are we see gaseous objects or displayed objects or point lights caused by plasma discharge. If stars are gaseous object then someone would have to prove to at gas can be self-contained in the vacuum, so far the experiments shows the opposite is true - gas always expands. This is biblical narrative. Heliocentrism was introduced by Nicolas Copernicus, Luciferian as we now know it. Pope declared heliocentrism as true system and Masonic school system enforced this belief on unaware public. Vatican also have their well known telescope called Lucifer. Connect the dots. The Sun and sunlight is just temporary replacement of God’s glory, so biblically the Sun was not needed to be created from the beginning. Rev 21:23 The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp

[@danieljust295]

Armando Lima I would also add that the Genesis starts from “at the beginning, God created heavens and the earth”. God exist beyond our dimension, so “at the beginning” God created time (at the beginning), space (heavens) and matter (the earth). Everything was created from something invisible: Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear I believe God says here about the aether (the concept of aether was removed from schools). The passing time on earth and in heavens is different, Einstein’s theory of relativity explains this concept very well. Also Peter explained to us that one day with the Lord equals to thousands years, not the other way around . 2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day There is no reason to limit God’s abilities. We are told that the creation took seven days, so it is seven days. Jesus healed people instantly, within a second, but any surgery usually requires weeks and months of further treatment. Couldn’t God suspend the time? Certainly he can. In the story of z Joshua, we are told that the Sun has been suspended for three hours, yet another example of “violation of physics laws”.

[@danieljust295]

-- And the land “emerged” from the water.

[@danieljust295]

-- You assume someone ever went to the Moon but the only evidence is a few photos from 1960s (NASA claims all videos and photos from “Moon landing” has been lost) and “the word” of astronauts (or actors). Stanley Kubrick said all was recorded in studio. Take a close look at those remaining photos : foot print left on the Moon (however the pattern doesn’t match the boots worn by astronauts and it is not possible to leave any footprint in dry environment without any moisture), photo showing capsule and an astronaut - here look closely at shadow angles and you will see at least two directions - impossible if there is only one source, possible in studio with multiple lamps, some photos are composites meaning the are processed digitally, for example the cloud pattern is copied all over the “earth seen from the space”, what’s more analyze some NASA’s photos in Photoshop, play with contrast and you will see a square appearing around “distant Moon” - meaning the photo of the Moon was simply copied to the main photo etc. there are a lot of such disturbing “coincidences”. Look at NASA’s documents - all flights are tested over “flat earth”. No one ever went to the Moon. However there were operations to go through the firmament above forcibly or using rockers with bombs. Yes, it’s big, but many of NASA employees don’t realize that, they simply don’t question “the science”. Japanese used high speed camera to record lightnings and found so called “Lightning’s sprites” , which appear as if the lightning come out of “invisible layer” exposing the firmament. The biblical narrative is Flat Earth and Jew always believed in Flat Earth. This was changed when pope accepted heliocentrism and Freemasons spread this “science” through schooling system. Nicolas Copernicus was Luciferian, and he didn’t even have courage to present his “discovery ” to the Church during his lifetime. The change happened after his death. Now, Vatican built their own telescope and named it Lucifer. Coincidence ? No. There is no evidence that the stars are far objects composed of gas. They could be close object, point light source - for example “discharge of plasma” (called Z-pinch, see Electric Universe Theory). I haven’t yet seen that gas can be self-contained in vacuum chamber, it is rather expanding. We live in gigantic machine made by God. The founder of NASA Werhner von Braun left message for us on his grave : Psalm 19:1 "The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows his handiwork."

[@RK-dk5vt]

Thank you, Dr. Heiser. I've been following your work for years now and can see how you've managed to distill your message to make it clear, concise and completely to the point; and perhaps even more interesting to the listener as a result. Might I ask: am I wrong in thinking that I've earlier heard you say that the other two meanings of Nacash in context were incorrect and irrelevant, and that therefore you have shifted your view on the use of that word here?

[@Polaris-1]

I would agree with his thoughts on Gen 3 because other scriptures make it "consistent". But to apply that idea to Gen 1 would be a gross error. I think you can only do that if we have other scripture backing that up. Zoology and Astronomy are man's attempts to understand how things work in those respective jurisdictions. MAN can be insanely wrong at times, hence the purpose of this channel I believe. We should be careful with how we try to marry what man thinks he's figured out about creation, and what the Most High says in scripture. Praying for a good health brother.

[@MarleyBoy21]

If he doesnt believe in the creation days, how does he explain exodus 20:11 ? In six days God made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them

[@rolysantos]

I'm wondering why this is an issue. The Lord chose to use the serpent as the symbol of evil and that is sufficient. The snake on the pole represented that which was killing the people, which also symbolized sin. Hence, those who looked to the serpent on the pole were healed (Numbers 21:8) of the serpent bite just as Jesus "became sin" and was put on a "pole" so that those who look to Him are healed of sting of sin. Jesus also called the pharisees "Brood of vipers." So was the serpent in the garden just a snake? Probably not but the snake does represent the devil, evil and sin, which is sufficient for us to know.

[@Bunni504]

But Bible said be wise as a serpent and being wise is good. So no the Bible doesn’t want us to see snakes as evil.

[@rolysantos]

@@Bunni504 No my friend, I believe you misunderstand what this verse means. To be as "shrewd as a serpent" does not put serpents in a good light. Being SHREWD or Wise in our dealings in this world is what is being referred to. Remember the parable of the "Shrewd" manger in Luke 16? He knew he was about to be fired to he immediately gathered all his Master's debtors and reduced their debt while he had the authority to do so. That way when his master fired him he would be favored by the debtors and still have connections to help him keep living. What did Jesus say about this dishonesty? "“The master commended the dishonest manager *because he had acted shrewdly* For the people of this world are more shrewd in dealing with their own kind than are the people of the light" Jesus is not commending the dishonest servant's dishonesty but acting SHREWDLY. So just as scripture does not paint dishonest servant in a good light, neither does it paint serpents in a good light. It is the lesson we learn from BOTH of them that is the take away.

[@lizzard13666]

Maybe humans could talk to animals before the fall? There are passages that talk about a restored-Eden-like state on the Day of Yahweh. Children will play with snakes, if you've read Isaiah. Why is it so unreasonable to think humans talked with animals?

[@chomn8330]

Because it's not written anywhere in the passage? Or in the rest of scripture for children to play with serpents merely means that humans and animals will one day live in harmony again, says nothing about talking animals.

[@garycrase7068]

Can you speak on "Preterisim " ?

[@GraceYow-z5z]

4:57 "500 years from ...laughing..." fine historical observation for future reference. thank you, dr. heiser. man's mind is so limited. man's mind is finite. we keep on having the adam/eve mindset of deciding for ourselves before we know or are capable of knowing what NEEDS to be known for our continued abundant living. because we rely on finite minds, rather than the infinite mind that cannot be wrong nor deceived, we introduce so much pain, suffering, chaos, filth into this once beautiful world. the lord be blessed that we are so limited in our capabilities on our own that there still remains beauty in this planet after all the damage we have been trying to foil on it. we need not fear nuclear holocaust nor ai dominance destruction. it is scripturally prophesied and all scriptural prophecies have been proven accurate so far, it is god himself who will destroy the earth and its remaining ungodly inhabitants, not any of his creation nor of man-made productions ^_^. praise the lord for his might and wisdom and love nature.

[@kennethmheck1]

In the book "Legends of the Bible" by Louis Ginzberg, page 38, the serpent is described as "Like a man, he stood upright upon two feet, and in height he was equal to the camel." This sounds similar to accounts of certain types of aliens resembling reptilian species,. Fossils indicate many dinosaurs also walked on two feet. The word "serpent" in Hebrew shouldn't necessarily refer only to snakes.

[@st.christopher4854]

But the serpent and all animals may have talked before the fall ... before the curse.

[@JesseLaBatte]

So Elohim did not actually create the Sun, Moon and Stars on day 4, after the creation of the firmament and the earth? Sounds like something the serpent would say... Hmmm... metaphor?

[@ChristianAlavija]

For those that have an ear to hear for those that have an eye to see

[@timwight7895]

Is this his real channel? I know it says official, but there are some videos about other stuff in the playlists? I’d like to maybe buy merch but I want to support the actual guy.

[@cometblazt]

Praying for Dr Heisser's health to the almighty.

[@xspydazx]

Dont he died !he was also a false teacher ! but his heart was in the right place , but he did reject the truth when it was shown to him ! ( because it was not his color !)

[@joshuab2437]

​@@xspydazxCan you explain how he was a false teacher? I also sensed a spirit of arrogance in Heiser which blinded him to many greater truths.

[@FrankGrauStudio]

I’ve never understood how otherwise intelligent scholars of scripture can issue such poor arguments, and I say this in reference to the often asked rhetorical question as to how in Genesis there can be days prior to the sun being created (implying that it actually didn’t happen that way). Have they never read in Relevation 21:23 how in the new Jerusalem there will be no sun or moon because God’s glory will provide light? So what makes these scholars think God could not have provided light prior to creating and assigning that role to the sun (especially when Genesis 1:3 states that God did precisely that)?

[@truthbebold4009]

I agree. Heiser was puffed up

[@Idontlikethisever]

I don't know why doc Heiser make this a question again and again.

[@PiaseckiAdam22]

As usual another fantastic video and i learned something.

[@garypickering7981]

It has been suggested that Eve had twins by two fathers. Your opinion?

[@grahambell9426]

Not even a good suggestion

[@antonrossouw8015]

Make sense to me. Two fathers Satan and Adam.

[@FrankGrauStudio]

Michael says “He [God] did not tether the truths He wanted to communicate to something, I.e., science, that He knew would change”. Therefore He lied to us and gave us a false cosmology? One has to ask, if God were somehow worried that a true cosmology would somehow not correspond to modern views, wouldn’t it be even worse to give a false cosmology that, being false, could never even in principle correspond to the evidence EVER? Isn’t it more plausible that a God of truth simply gave us the truth without regard to anyone’s opinion? After all, either one simply trusts God or one does not. Moreover, there’s no cosmology in Genesis that, if true, is so complex that people in any age or time in history cannot comprehend it.

[@happybeejv]

In native American parables animals talk all the time In most folklore a talking animal shows up, Usually its a large bird that marries someone temporarily ending in tragedy

[@stephenslater412]

Dr.Hugh Ross ( and others) have established the reference for the chronological description of the 6 days of creation.The Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters and was observing light from that perspective which was revealed (not created ) to the observer on Earth after its creation.

[@streydz]

In the book of Enoch, the angel accused of being the "serpent" was named Gader'el

[@pauldsouza3770]

Really We all can Know Jeshua or Jesus more in the Bible through this Brother Michael

[@TheArmchairPriest]

I would love to hear dr mike dig into the semitic historical-evolutions of michaEl and his fallen brother MichaEl->Metatron samael->satan In sumeria the two were seen as enlil and enki, in india they were seen as ishvana and shiva

[@chriscobayne2235]

Yeah I’d like to see a valid comparison. I have a friend that’s all into that. Says is enlil and enki but I have see many differences. So I doubt it but he is convinced hmm

[@TheArmchairPriest]

@@chriscobayne2235 yeah, differences are going to be seen because something like the game of telephone is implemented through thousands of years. So think about it, if two thousand three hundred years the story of 9/11 WILL be told in many different ways, especially if there is anyyy global cataclysm that causes division and lack of communication

[@chriscobayne2235]

@@TheArmchairPriest I understand that it can change over time because will THatS the problem with it. So how does he know that that is the original stuff enki and enlil? Maybe that’s changed and isn’t valid. The differences like how one was born . Clearly wasn’t from a virgin and the gospel isn’t what is taught with Egyptians. And certainly the Bible is the most historical accurate book in history proven by many so…

[@Bunni504]

Me too.

[@jdlyonsky]

Stop putting God in a box. He's outside of paradigm. If he says he created the earth first, he did. He also says in the new creation there will be no sun or moon and he will be the only light the city needs In revelation 21:23.

[@Fil_the_spil]

I'm Christian, but how are we to trust the Bible if it goes against our observations of the Universe. How can you prove the word of God?

[@RUGRAF-rf8fi]

The endless question of how we prove the word of YAHUAH. What are you trying to prove? Do you believe or not? He is right there in front of your eyes. No not literally, we are sinful YAHUAH IS NOT! We see Him in everything, right down to our DNA. 🧬 There is a long stream of answers explanations. The real question is for us, do we believe. Science can determine much but no fallen human can comprehend the infinite nature of YAHUAH.

[@StraightShot2977]

​@@Fil_the_spilit's not a question of proving. It's not even really about believing. It's about whether you can admit that you believe, and what you believe. For instance you say "our" observations of the universe. But are they really yours? Unless you have conducted every single experiment and checked every proof, then you're still choosing to believe an account from eyewitnesses--because at the end of the day that's all the entire body of scientific knowledge is. A collection of eyewitness reports about what people have done and seen, and their thoughts about what might be causing them. It's also key to understand what is and isn't actually subject to science. The creation of life, the universe, and everything is not observable, repeatable, and measurable, so it's not a job the tool of the scientific method can even answer--by the definition of science. Now another thing is that you're overestimating how much people even claim to know. Look into dark matter, dark energy, the fine tuning problem, the sight problem, the consciousness paradox, and you'll see that we don't understand the universe, or how we see it, or how we think about what we see, or how we think at all. Genuinely. So it's not about proof. I know because until recently I was right here with you. But you have to decide if you're going to believe God or continue to believe equally unverifiable accounts from scientists. I'll leave you with this. Every century or so the big theory of science seems to be turned on its head when it's falsified. Many have tried to disprove the Bible, none have succeeded. And if you really want to approach this rationally, do your utmost to pull apart them both. One will come out stronger than the other, go with that. I'm here if you'd like to talk or are struggling in your faith, and I'll be praying for you.

[@spyder6736]

Sir the sun being created after we have days might work if we use a "Platonic Year" also called a "Great Year". Moses was trained in all things Egyptian. A shaft in the Great Pyramid of Giza points towards Sirius A. Since the moon reflects light you use Sirius B, the invisible companion star to Sirius A because invisible light is a lesser light on the scale. But we could be wrong!

[@danieljust295]

Notice that God created TWO lights : the Sun and the Moon, so “the Moon reflects the light” is not biblical view. Revelation says that the sunlight is not necessary for us to live, the Sun is substitute for God’s glory (light). Gen 1:16 God made two great lights-the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. Revelation 21:23 The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp

[@spyder6736]

@@danieljust295 Moses wasn't trained in all things biblical, it hadn't been written. My post reflects things Moses was biblically trained in.

[@danieljust295]

spy der Are you suggesting that Moses didn’t know what he was writhing about and was just guessing ? I believe he wrote as God told him. Moses didn’t witness the creation, only God did. Moses only passed the knowledge in the written form. Jewish cosmology was always basing on Flat Earth with the firmament above and countless experiments show us this is indeed the truth, but the world lead by Freemasons shaped minds of people and taught them the lie (heliocentrism) hiding God in their own minds.

[@kb6175]

@@danieljust295 - Peace.. To piggyback & agree with you.. The fallen angelic knowledge turned into the mystery religions of Babylon in which the Egyptians took all their stuff from.. The freemasons today are the keepers of the mystery religions of the old days.. So yes, Moses was trained by Pharaoh but then separated for 40 years (divine punishment/Judgement) then returned after becoming a new creature & he trusted God by FAITH (Hebrews 11:23-29).. Not the mystery religions of Babylon & Egypt.. He forsook Egypt (Heb 11:27).. God then used Moses to bring judgment upon Egypt.. People look at stuff thru the false lense & lie that's perpetrated today by freemasons & other Brotherhood members who sided with the fallen Angels instead siding with Jesus Christ.. God Bless!!

[@danieljust295]

K B Exactly. If I remember correctly Moses was talking to God for 40 days on Mt Sinai, plenty of time to explain all the things and plenty of time to build golden idol :) I think Genesis chapter 9 to 11 is critical to understand where ancient religions came from.: Sumerian, Babylonian, Canaanite, Phoenician and finally Egyptian and Hinduism and also Greek and Roman. All these religions started or are continuation of what king Nimrod did in the past. I believe he attained contact with spirits (demons, angels) through meditation or some sort of divination and later Nimrod was considered to be demi god. He was known under many different names in different regions. All these religions have something in common : in short, they talk about dying God who resurrects in the Underworld. And this is contradiction to Christianity. Our God died for us and resurrected in the world of living. You are right. Archeologists try to “add” Christianity to the end of some kind of religion chain, what is nonsense. Of course, we understand who wants to blend Christianity with “other doctrines” and make it to look like “nothing special”, and at the same time that person wants to convince the world to emerging new “ideology” - Freemasonry. We know this is rebranded satanism in the purest form.

[@IWITNESS7]

You don't need the sun to have light or day, you need light

[@AnNtD_fHtR]

Something to consider... 1 Kings 22:22 🕊️

[@heckanice7278]

Bro God said what he said and man is saying his creation story is wrong… cmon people

[@n8thal718]

Those (Animals) were symbols of psychology.... They were described to be added to man as a "Helper" before our creator choose to pull that "Helper" from man himself. Note... through process of elimination, you can discover what of the three types of animals(psychology) the snake was from... and why it was cursed to crawl on its stomach.

[@ilbhaley79]

We don’t know who wrote the book in the Bible

[@jpaul1599]

For Believers in God, what is surprising that the sun was only created on day 4 while plants etc was made on day 2. After all God first created Light on Day 1 and what the plants & trees need most is light. So why does science based believers seem stumped that the sun came later than the plants etc. Besides, we know that nobody knows the source of light - Job 38:19 > Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof, Finally, we know that in Eternity there is no sun, or moon or stars because God declares in Revelation 22:5 > And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. Shalom

[@sheilalyda231]

Thank you for pronouncing "zoology" correctly! (It's one of my pet peeves.)

[@barryb3079]

Satan as well as the other angels apparently had the power to take other forms not just the form of a man when they enter the physical realm . I was hoping to hear a explanation of the curse on satan to compare notes, as it stands I may be the only believer in this generation who can explain it in a logical manner, God revealed it to me many years ago.

[@micky3096]

They are shapeshifters.

[@bennygreene1421]

@@barryb3079 Satan knew how to inject himself into the human race. He did just that. We know the serpent was more CUNNING than any of the beasts. Here I believe is where we see the missing link. And when the woman saw it was a tree to be DESIRED she partook. Very plain but sometimes you have to be plain

[@MrPoohman1981]

He need a podcast if he don’t already

[@TommyStahr]

Perhaps before the fall we could communicate with animals. That's why it wasn't a big deal. We understand today that demons can possess animals and humans, too.

[@stephenmorrison335]

Daylight was created on day one. Daylight is not the same as sun light, That is how we got days before the sun.

[@Acts-1915]

I think John trying to translate what he saw to something WE can grasp. Think of Paul & him TRYING to describe Heaven. Sometimes, there just aren't words.

[@seamantimmy473]

Can you do a video on 1 john 2:6? I know people who state that We need to follow the Torah bc Jesus did. These same people also claim Paul as being a false apostle.

[@major5maximus]

The question is framed wrong. As if there's only two option: either agree with the verse or disagree. If you lose that question then YOU have to answer. What does the PHYSICAL transformation of the serpent mean once God gave the punishment. Namely, taking away the legs, crawling on the belly ,eating dust? The ball is still on your court because you failed to address the subject thoroughly.

[@discipleaj]

What kind of a question is that when someone asks today whether the apostle John was correct?!?! Despite the fact that his writings were done under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, thus they are God's word and not some man's interpretation alone. They are authority and have been rightly canonised as such. Good grief what an absolute state the body of Christ is in today to even ask such a question. The above is Bible basics and the questioner has not been discipled correctly. Also, Genesis 1; the LORD Himself was the light before the sun was created. Overall, this is a failure of Christians and non Christians alike to think in categories correctly and thus they miss the proper context.

[@genegill3939]

Amen

[@thedynamicsolo4232]

The word "Nachash" is the key. It's primary meaning is not SERPENT, it is "Shining One, a whisperer". Shining one would lead us to some type of angelic being. A whisperer was a deceiver. Dig deeper. Heiser, God rest his soul, is right, but there is more.

[@dagwould]

"the sun created after days...how does that work?" Here's how it works. 'Day' is a unit of time; it is the unit of time that circumscribes our experience of life within the creation. As a unit of time, it needs to be calibrated. Thus, what type of 'day' is this? Here's the calibration that tells us what type of day: it's an 'evening and morning' type of day. This makes it the type of day that we know, experience and live within. A unit of time passes without any marker necessary (so we don't need to wear a watch to know that our lunch hour will pass in one hour); indeed that's why the markers of time could be created after the unit was communicatively established to tell us that God created in the history that we experience. -- The creation week was not merely contiguous with our history, but it was continuous with it. God shows that the creation is not a pagan myth off in fantasy land, and God is not the pagan nonsense god (compare the trash-talk in Enuma elish), he is the one active, present and personal in the historical domain that we are in. He is the God near, present, and with us (Genesis 3:8 illuminates this), setting the stage for the theophanies throughout the Bible. -- Thus we don't need the speculation of some who imagine a 'temporary' light source to enable the diurnal lighting variation of the the day, all we need is the names of times in the day to denote the type of day. The irrelevance of lighting variations is evident if one has traveled in the arctic circle in summer. At 11pm one knows it is late evening and time to sleep, even though there is sufficient light to read a book by. -- A related issue often used to misunderstand the Creation is the creation of light before the sun. Francis Schaeffer deals with this quite adroitly in Genesis in Time and Space (although he fluffs on the historical significance of the 'days') in pointing out that the creation of light indicates, must indicate, the creation of the entire energy field that is basic to the physical cosmos. 'Light' had to be created first for the rest to follow, something the ancients could not have known. Without its energy substrate, the sun would have been a mass of inert de-energized 'stuff' (the dark?).

[@jersmith1486]

Not enough information is given but go ahead and speculate

[@geraldjohnson8871]

When God says speak Anything will speak. Even Rocks are a Witness about the Almighty Creator. Shalowm and Amen.