Watch Out for These Shocking Japanese Preloved Luxury Scams!

[@tracygarner5912]

ya OEM parts for bags. Chanel should take back the resell market and be the only one who can guarantee the bag was refurbished authentically.

[@SuperDacob]

Only the actual brands can actually call themselves authenticators of their own brand products. No self proclaimed third party authenticator business should ever be so arrogant to presume and state that they are 100% correct all the time at authenticating products from other brands. All red flags would go off for me if I saw a self proclaimed authenticator business claiming they are always correct and even more red flags would go off for me if that business also sold preloved luxury bags… just think about the bias that business might have at authenticating the bags they are selling. These concerns are just the tip of the iceberg though. I could easily say much more on this topic. The receipts are in hand.

[@H.A.-zr2wc]

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[@SuperDacob]

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[@zekosauthentication3944]

Jacob, I've taken a look into your two of your videos about Chanel. Just from the initial two, I've come across areas of concern and misinformation about many things you shared that are incorrect. Tackling all your videos will be quite the journey, but I'm sincerely dedicated to it. My aim is both to share these insights with you and to help guide the public towards a clearer understanding and more accurate view . I'm in the process of creating a video that gently highlights these points, with comprehensive explanations. And while I do so, I promise to "endorse you".

[@hollygrace6814]

be sure to tag 'dacob' and not 'jacob'

[@zekosauthentication3944]

@@hollygrace6814 😭💀🤣😆 thank you Holly!! I am at his 2.55 video comparisons….the amount of times I screamed NOOOOO! 😭

[@hollygrace6814]

maybe you're better off having a joint discussion with Dacob on his next live and discuss what you disagree? then you can respectfully go back and forth. that would make an interesting video. @@zekosauthentication3944

[@H.A.-zr2wc]

Dacob states in all of his videos that the information he shares is alleged and for entertainment purposes only. They're not facts. Please dont come to his channel and be disrespectful. Maybe you should email him instead of using the comment section and keep it outside of the public eye

[@zekosauthentication3944]

@@H.A.-zr2wc When disseminating specifics like stitching details, color schemes, seasonal details, sizes, and insights about the Masion and the work of craftsmanship to a broad audience, it's crucial to be accurate. Misrepresenting such details can significantly influence decisions, especially when the information is incorrect. Sharing such details privately is a different matter. However, when addressing a vast audience, it's essential to verify facts before making definitive statements. You forgot to look at the main issue of my comment and I rarely comment. It's rather surprising that he used my content without attributing it to its rightful owner. Didn't he raise a similar concern when it happened to him? The discrepancies I've identified are not minor; they can impact the decisions of those unfamiliar with Chanel. I've received numerous links to his content pointing out his errors many times, especially when they contrast sharply with the accurate information I share with my clients. I've refrained from publicly addressing this out of respect. I hope you understand my point of view as someone who’s in this industry for 18 years. Thank you for your comment 🩷

[@slaytherin27]

I’m in Tokyo often and only purchase Chanel from boutiques. I noticed there were quite a few shops FULL of vintage Chanel, most of them gave me weird vibes. I refuse to believe it’s possible to find that many vintage bags in perfect condition, and multiples of the same kind. Another clue was when I asked questions they were irritated and started to argue in Chinese. 🤷‍♀️ I had a feeling some might be taking advantage of Japan’s reputation.

[@HoneyLove77]

I believe this 100% that there are Chinese who are ruining the Japanese reputation. Many people don't realize how conniving and scamming they are in the luxury space. They literally have ruined luxury with the fakes etc

[@ruelongcha]

not the slipping into their native language 🤣🤣

[@Nameless-hy7fu]

It’s not luxury when you are stressing out trying to buy a bag lol

[@SuperDacob]

I agree

[@lornadune6024]

I would be more inclined to believe that scammers are using the trust luxury consumers have in the Japanese secondhand market to fake they are a Japanese seller.

[@pradagirl777]

At this point, the only way to get an authentic Chanel is to purchase it from the boutique brand new. Gone are the days of vintage unless you want to flip a coin 🪙 50/50 fake or altered. I only purchased one pre-loved Chanel and I think it’s fake. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@ohshedee2020]

this might be marketing to keep buyers into buying straight from the stores. OR just buy fakes. which in the long run erases resellers, which you said is what these companies want anyway.

[@SuperDacob]

There is a lot we could speculate about here and many theories come to mind. These are not the best times for luxury bag lovers though… in my opinion. 💖

[@aann9201]

This is a great video. I am presently residing in Tokyo, and I have heard all these rumours about the Japanese preloved market including the fact that some reputable resellers even have their own refurbishing facilities. I have also heard that when the bags are much loved and damaged that it's very difficult to sell. Hence, they alter them to sell them at a higher price which of course take away their authenticity. Hence, I used to always wonder why so many people say that Japan vintage in Japan is the best when these things were happening for a while now.

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you for sharing your experience with us aann 🙏🏻🥰💖

[@xiwenchen189]

Have you heard of Amore boutiques in Japan? There's several locations in Tokyo that focus on Chanel/Dior vintage items but have some other brands too. I visited one in 2019 and while it's a gorgeous Barbie pink store, the prices were 3x-5x what was market price at the time. The bags looked really worn/used and they don't come with the authentication items or boxes. A lovely sa explained that it was on the buyer's end to have the item authenticated on their budget and if it was proven fake, Amore would take the item back and issue a full refund. Problem with that is accountability, since it sounds as if some of the items could be fake, and they are selling fakes unknowingly to customers. Vintage boutiques need to be the ones proving that items are authentic, not selling dubious items.

[@caryspuleston2644]

Hi Dacob. I have just had quite the saga with a bag a bought direct from the Dior boutique. It had been mis stamped and when I needed to resell all this came out, but Dior refused to acknowledge it. It’s been a nightmare and that’s a new bag from boutique! 🙁

[@josettechrystall9290]

I just can’t trust any bag that has not come directly from the boutique. I’m done with all this. Sorry to all those people that have been doing the right thing and selling there authentic bags on but I just don’t trust anyone any more. I wont be buying preloved with or without tags or receipts or anything else. Sorry but this has gotten completely out of hand

[@YaquarahVintageBags1980]

I don’t buy vintage that is worth more than $1,500. I usually buy $600 and under. If I want anything over that amount I’ll just buy a replica or save for the real thing. I think this is why fashion houses are pushing there clothing lines.

[@lululee1653]

You are so right Dacob. Of all the countries in this world I have the most confidence in Japan. I’ve felt that they were held to very high standard. The people are so kind and trustworthy . This breaks my heart

[@kanaltilhrenderioeha5478]

I brought my classic jumbo from 1996 (with authencity card and all) to Chanel and they refused to refurbish it. They just said that they couldn’t offer it, no explanation what so ever.

[@SuperDacob]

Wow! Was it a black leather jumbo?

[@tippytoe1250]

Oh yeah they don’t refurbish anymore. They haven’t in a while now. They no longer give us the lifetime warranty on the bags we buy directly from them. I think they only cover up to 5 years if I remember correctly. It’s been a long time since I bought directly from the boutique.

[@kanaltilhrenderioeha5478]

@@SuperDacob Yes, a classic black in leather 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@kanaltilhrenderioeha5478]

@@tippytoe1250 Well, I wanted to pay them to fix it. I’d rather have Chanel do it than someone else. But I guess they prioritise different these days.

[@kath1626]

When buying/owning a bag comes with such stress levels, why would I put myself through any of this? I have my collection (no Chanel) and safe for one they're all from boutiques. I don't trust the reseller market.

[@Somehowadulting]

This is why indie brands such as Polene and Songmont are quite popular. People are tired of dealing with the drama of the luxury markets. I will still participate because I have no self control (I've calmed down a bit) lol but I've been showcasing indie brands because people are starting to have interest in more innovative designs without breaking our expensive wallets.

[@Ms_EE]

Hmmm! I have seen some pretty good fake Polene Numero Un's 🍵 👀

[@BrownGirlColorStruckWorld]

​@@Ms_EEthat may be true, but an authentic Polene bag comes at a much more accessible price than Chanel. So people are more likely to go to the source for their bags when it comes to contemporary mid-range luxury bags.

[@Ms_EE]

​@BrownGirlColorStruckWorld l agree that the price of Polene and other mid/contemporary bags, make them more financially accessible to purchase brand new, direct from the retailer. But a profit margin for someone ntentionally buying a fake £50 Polene, for the sole purpose of selling it, still exists. Therefore, you could argue that the view Somehowadulting has shared, shows a potential for shoppers of 2nd hand Polene, to be led into a false sense of security if they think they can save £300 or £400 on a 'Authentic Polene, Brand New with Tags' from the preloved market.

[@ryeofoatmeal]

@@Ms_EE crazy how even polene has fakes 😭💀it's not even crazy expensive but more attainable. at this point, any popular brands will have fakes. counterfeit market has demand. hence they're booming everywhere!!

[@myluxurycloset529]

I was sold a fake LV strap by an ebay seller from Japan. I did a video on it - ended up getting my money back but it was a long process. LV repairs CALLED me and told me the strap was fake when I sent it in to have a screw replaced...I ended up having to get it "authenticated" by an authentication company to prove it was fake to paypal AND ship the item back to the seller to get my refund:(...

[@SuperDacob]

So sorry you had to go through that stress. 😔

[@myluxurycloset529]

@@SuperDacob thank you

[@tracygarner5912]

or refurb the hardware. It can be done. If you can bring an old car back to life so why not the hardware on the bag?

[@SuperDacob]

Good point

[@drcynthiabmcneill]

I took my Chanel Classic flap to Chanel to get it repaired, you are right, I waited for about 5 months, they changed the hardware and put a more “modern” lock. When I got it back they had a piece of leather hanging. I had to take it back for another 2 weeks, I was done with Chanel after that. I have 4 Birkins and a Kelly - I still love and use my Longchamp more than any of them. My girlfriend has a fake Birkin and I cannot tell the difference, except the price. As a matter of fact, her’s is way nicer than all of mine, though her’s is box leather, the craftsmanship is reaaally good to the point I don’t even ask her where she bought it, because I don’t like the moral lack behind fakes, but my friend argue “how do I know mine is real?” I bought them all resale. She has a point 🤔

[@-MARZ]

Yes ! I do agree , to known your brand and be able to authenticate your item for your personal purchase takes a LOT of time ! Definitely many years ! It's real DETECTIVE job and lots of stuff to learn. I noticed that fakes quite often pass authentication tests 😱 I've seen very young people working as a authenticators and for me it's hard to believe that you can authenticate 30 designer brand's ( vintage and new ) ...I do believe you can be an expert in one or two brands ...Know your brand ... research ! 🙏

[@SuperDacob]

Thats what I think as well, especially when it comes to heritage brands that have been around for many decades… so many products made in so many years and so many variations and so much to learn.

[@Withlovebynicole]

This is unfortunately true & I urge everyone to be cautious. I ordered a vintage chanel from a reputable Japanese seller on ebay in 2021. The bag came…and it was obviously painted but not visible in photos or described. They accepted the return but I ended up losing hundreds due to import fees.

[@SuperDacob]

I got burned too with the super high import fees that I never got back once I returned the item… and the item was returned because faulty… but losing those fees was painful. I feel ya.

[@tippytoe1250]

For me it is the ending. That chapter in my life has come to pass. I’m kind of not surprised about this news. It explains why their bags are in such good conditions. I’ve bought a few pieces from Japan. I’m confident as far as the Chanel ones because I did a-lot of cross reference. Meaning I looked for the same bag I bought being sold elsewhere and compared the bag and serial number. I did get a Kelly also in great condition. I’ve made peace with myself and is okay with it if I every come to find out it was ever tampered with.

[@AWWLF]

Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to unethical resale of luxury items. I love some Chanel vintage purses, but i would only go for those extremely rare seasonal pieces BUT even then, i have seen fake seasonal pieces out there (like a fake seasonal saint tropez 2011 cruise collection). As for refurbished, i am not surprised. At that stage i would only buy from the store even though some past pieces are just to die for... Helas:((

[@ruelongcha]

I’ve also seen fishy postings on Vestiaire where it says the sale is from Japan, but when I see the actual location of the seller they’re in a Chinese city🤔 I don’t doubt there’s at least a few bad apples in the Japanese resale market, but a lot of the scams seem to be Chinese sellers posing as Japanese. As a Chinese expat these types of shady business practices make me cringe!!

[@stanley052380]

Even with SA i have trust issues. Not all of them have an idea about the characteristics should be in a specific chanel item unless that person is properly trained and know the things that should be present in a chanel piece.

[@aamoako95]

I purchased my Bags in Okinawa and I was told that they did not sell fakes and now I am going to have my bags checked now that I am in the States.

[@Batuhan-oo9pu]

Hi Dacob! Would you do a video on the new Chanel Chance Eau Fraiche EDP? I am very curious as to how it compares to EDT. Looking forward to it!

[@SuperDacob]

Its on my to do list for my Essence-tially Dacob Perfume Channel 💖

[@joanna4658]

Dacob, you are more than right! Wish you a beautiful week✨✨✨

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you joanna and have a wonderful week too 🥰💖

[@joanna4658]

@@SuperDacobthank you 🩷

[@w.urlitzer1869]

sooo many pre-loved bags for sale in Tokyo.

[@nneo.2334]

Hmm. At this rate, I would not feel comfortable buying preloved. I wonder how many fake ‘preloved’ bags are floating around in the market.

[@SuperDacob]

I also feel less and less comfortable purchasing preloved.

[@AnUrbanGypsy]

So what you have is a new, leather bag with an old, used Chanel interior. A ‘fusion’. It’s a scam. To me, this is the same as putting original Chanel buttons on a new, woollen cardigan. It’s not Chanel. At least with people who turn old LV or Goyard canvases into new bags, you know what you’re buying.

[@gladyssaria2483]

Why is it I’m feeling a little embarrassed now wearing luxury bags or accessories with logos in public? 😢

[@SuperDacob]

You are not alone. Many of us are feeling more and more that way too 💖

[@gladyssaria2483]

Thank you Dacob! You inspire me so much!

[@mismamari.]

A Chanel Ship of Theseus moment.

[@rcharlotte8689]

First thing i thought about too! Very interesting conversation here applied to luxury 😅

[@flowerlace2071]

Too much live selling in the internet, too much preloved , not rich but for me luxury is about the store experience how it feels to finally buy the bag that i save for months the service that it comes with , and this is also one of the reasons I don’t like buying preloved products , greed and cunningness in humanity is inevitable and as much as possible I don’t want the hassle and having to worry about the authenticity of my bags , this is also why I don’t dream to have classic bags,my rule is if the bag is not meant for me or if I can’t afford the bag then it’s not meant for me,quality these days though 😢.

[@susannewman7858]

I purchased a fake bag from Japan. So it’s true. I’m from uk.

[@melissafox6488]

You look like a vision from heaven with that backdrop 😅

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you Melissa 🥹🙏🏻🥰💖🌅

[@PetitePalateBaby]

Noooooo! This is sad news - I just got a Row bag - looked really good 🤞🏿

[@ohshedee2020]

dacob, please dont get a birkin, its an awful bag, and im not some bitter person that hate it because I cant and won't afford it. The flap and closure is ridiculous!

[@jeslinetay1440]

I notice a few Japan Live show featured 2nd hand bags, hosted by China people and Filipino and not Japanese. I dont buy because I worry.

[@vena936]

Frankenstein bags

[@SuperDacob]

I just saw a Frankenstein Prada at a Prada outlet… literally had Frankenstein head print all over it. Haha. I love the Universal monsters and was tempted to buy it but I don’t care for Prada so I asked myself why would I spend over 600 dollars for a nylon bag with Frankenstein printed all over it just because its Prada? There are awesome Universal Monster merch pieces made by non luxury brands that are actually much better designed than the Prada one in my opinion and they cost the fraction of the price… 🤣💖

[@julie_fitzgerald]

Chanel and Hermes paid for this article LOL

[@SuperDacob]

One would almost suspect it wouldn’t one? 😉💖 allegedly

[@ryeofoatmeal]

counterfeit buyers are laughing at us for buying pre loved which turns out to be not authentic either. it almost 50/50 where the bag looks like frekeinstein by now lol

[@SuperDacob]

It does kinda feel that way doesn’t it?

[@JoyofRVing]

You stole Zeko’s content. Give her credit.

[@H.A.-zr2wc]

Stop embarressing yourself.....you're only here for self promotion, ugh so cringy

[@traceyreneerivera-fernande6876]

Dang got my last 3 LVS from Japan...😮😮😮😮

[@andreav2175]

Me too, my last two! But they are authentic; LV accepted them for leather replacement by them. So I doubt that it’s ALL resellers in Japan. And maybe this problem is more of a Chanel “thing” since that’s been the preloved $$$$ workhorse for a few years. 🤷‍♀️

[@traceyreneerivera-fernande6876]

@@andreav2175 Ooh mines are authentic watching two for purchase next weekend lol

[@LokisPalace]

have you touched on Entrupy authentication?

[@alexandrebioluxe6621]

Oh my god, reminds me that Don Quijote Penguin’s store 🏬 in Japan sells luxury 2nd hand items 😨 crazy story, need to pay attention to that as travelling to Japan very soon.

[@andreav2175]

The joy is being sucked out the preloved-luxury room, yes. Sigh.

[@SuperDacob]

It kinda is. I agree

[@tuttuttut7758]

If authenticators cannot set fakes apart from real, neither can the average Joe public. So, does it really matter? You have a bag that you love and you paid the price that was acceptable for you. Even the brands get authentication wrong certain times. I don't know. I think shops should disclose refurbishing but I wouldn't care tbh

[@SuperDacob]

Very good argument martine. I agree. 💖

[@totesgene]

I just can't buy any other way than new from the boutique. I won't trust any authentication service. It's been proven that fakes by authenticators all the time. It's just not worth it.

[@SuperDacob]

I agree. I do not endorse any authentication sites because nobody is bullet proof anymore and they might all have the best intentions but I just personally for myself do not feel comfortable with any authentication businesses. Just my personal opinion.

[@innekekoops4615]

Altered vintage luxury goods so called “marriages” 😊 some auctioneers use as a term for put together stuff

[@sheanesheane]

Thanks for always putting out what others can't say, Dacob. I was going to outbid a Chanel Diana for around $3KAUD in 3hrs from a supposed Japanese eBay seller but I guess i'll just keep my money safe for now. I'm loving you more and more each day!♥️

[@SuperDacob]

We need to be safe because these days it just seems to me that it is becoming more and more dangerous to purchase preloved goods due to growing concerns about counterfeits. 💖

[@lakamatte4975]

I saw the term "repurposed"

[@jennifer-oc6io]

I love your pink look today

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you 🥹🎀🥰💖

[@DivaStylez.]

That’s what happens when you don’t buy from the actual store lol 😂

[@SuperDacob]

Yep

[@meld258]

I’m pretty done with Chanel. I am not excited seeing them anymore. I told myself I would only buy a chanel bag when there’s a true special color comes out.

[@SuperDacob]

Same with me. Done with their bags… still loving their perfumes, makeup and skincare though. 🥰💖🎀

[@chauminh]

Life is tough In japan

[@premeyumlife443]

Scary that we can’t trust the Japanese resellers my love. 😓 have to get it straight from the ©️©️ or H boutiques. 😘😘😘Sandy

[@H.A.-zr2wc]

Wow its getting worse and worse......😳 Allegedly ofcourse. Shout out to Kevv for finding this article💖

[@josephinebournes8212]

C'est foutu 😢

[@kateef8441]

Thank you for this! I’ve relied on the Japanese market for used items as well. ❤🎉 I guess not anymore.

[@SuperDacob]

It seems its all gone haywire… allegedly 💖

[@aysheaahmed348]

No one has the knowledge that you have Dacob! I would suggest any authentic authentication experts refer to you for further clarification when attempting to authenticate bags themselves xxx

[@SuperDacob]

🙏🏻💖🥰🌅🎀

[@chauminh]

Merci. Yikes

[@SuperDacob]

💖

[@seabreeze4559]

THESEUS BAG

[@lluvbagel9875]

Not that I encourage people to buy fake but with the current fake bags situation, might as well buy fake. Can't beat them, join them. At least you know it's fake & doesn't break your wallet 🤔

[@mayatal6748]

agreed

[@SuperDacob]

🙏🏻💖

[@DenmarkScandinavia123]

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