Watch THIS Before You Go To An Aviation College

Collegiate flight programs are great. But are there certain cons you should be on the lookout for? That's what we discuss in this video.
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[@atblanchard]

Purdue Grad here. Was a student and then CFI for the University. You'll be flying in the first 2-3 days on campus your Freshman year even with no previous flight time for those who haven't flown before. Really loved the college and Flight Program. Had a great experience and really helped set me up for employment at the airlines immediately after graduation. Good luck!

[@jaydenwilson7889]

That's awesome! Were you an in-state or out-of-state student? I'm looking into different schools right now and can't seem to find any good ones in California, which is a serious bummer since I live here. :/ And if so, do you have any idea what out of state tuition would be like for Purdue? I can imagine it's heart wrenching especially for aviation, but I have dreams to catch!!

[@atblanchard]

@@jaydenwilson7889 I was out of state, and it definitely was more pricey, but it was well worth it!

[@StrictlySports]

waste of time and money i’ll skip school and go right to flight school

[@aidan5819]

Purdue of one the few schools you start first week of classes

[@hsmith777]

Is there any other suggestions you would give to potential Purdue students? Anything future aviation students should know?

[@joejannelli349]

I’m currently a student at embry riddle and the biggest thing for me was coming into freshman year with my ppl I was able to get started right away on my instrument training instead of having to be put on a waitlist for a flight block. Make your decision and try to start flying junior year of high school

[@LukePylypciw]

Thanks for the insight Joe! Best of luck with your training. I haven’t heard about Riddle delaying flight blocks but some other universities up to 2 years - pretty crazy.

[@caribbaviator7058]

When I was in high school I couldn't afford to fly. I'm now in my early 20s getting my PPL.

[@RJFlyer]

This is true yes! Its very much reccomended to get a PPL before attending to put yourself ahead and get into more important (and cared for) courses.

[@pilotrserra]

Riddle has the worst reputation in the airline industry for taking the longest and never getting what you actually need…and it is crazy expensive. Plus, they force you to pay $300 a semester to park in parking lot lolo…they only want your money. If you want a mountain of debt and spend years on their campus, then go to Riddle. Even the airline pilots who graduate from Embry Riddle say it was a bad decision.

[@MaxMax-zf1ei]

It really is expensive

[@SnailSatan]

Skip to 1:25 to get past filler. (Or just read my summary) -1st issue: Some schools don't let you fly immediately. -2nd issue: Some schools require a 2nd application to join the flight program which is separate from your academic application.

[@thorium9503]

Riddle pilot here: 1) If you decided to go here, you will probably have to wait 2-3 months before you start flying. We have a good number of CFIs but the big thing is which campus you attend. If you go to Daytona, expect to wait a lot longer. If you come to Prescott, the wait is not as long. 2) Getting accepted into the flight program isn't a difficult task at all, it's really just filling out paperwork. 3) Many freshmen come here thinking it will be a laid-back training environment, it's not. It can be difficult if you don't put in the time and effort needed to succeed. You must be assertive to keep moving forward or you will "wash out". The cost of attendance here is also no joke. Financially, the only reason as to why you would attend this college is just to get the degree while you're training. 4) On that note, many airlines are starting to hire pilots without degrees so if you don't feel like spending more money, don't come to a collegiate aviation program for Part 141 training. Just get your certs normally through Part 61. The only con to doing this is essentially not having R-ATP Mins down to 1000 hours. You will have to work 500+ more hours. So either save money but work longer, or try to fast track to the airlines as soon as possible. I cannot stress enough how important it is to financially understand what you can accomplish, it's blunt to say but it's the sad truth. Although this may change, I'm sensing more airlines will start setting up private training centers which will fund a pilot to train then directly fly for the airline. Like many foreign airlines usually do. Godspeed everyone, hope to see you in the skies.

[@StrictlySports]

Hey I would like to go to riddle one day I’m a sophomore right now. I have a 3.2 gpa so you think that’s good enough to get in. Also what was your gpa. Also do you have any tips to get in?

[@thorium9503]

@@StrictlySports that’s a perfect gpa. I got in with a 2.8gpa because I didn’t care about high school at the time lol. Of course a low gpa means more general education classes that you must take so try to take AP classes in high school, it’ll save you time and money.

[@StrictlySports]

@@thorium9503 really cause I’ve seen on the internet that it’s so hard to get in so you think I could get in with just a 3.2

[@thorium9503]

@@StrictlySports tbh, times have changed so I’m not entirely sure, but the school accepts a lot of freshmen. Sometimes more than they can handle so I think you have a very good chance.

[@chief5981]

@@thorium9503 so I’m completing a bachelors in emergency management next month. Just started looking at flight school a couple weeks ago. Will my random bachelors suffice for the education requirements or will it be frowned upon since it isn’t an aviation degree? I remember seeing embry riddle offices at a couple of the installations I was stationed at in the army and was clueless to what they had to offer. Wish I had paid a little more attention

[@angiesaez-pagan9287]

I wish I know the 3 programs you were talking about.... trying to help guide my son in his dream to become a pilot

[@chief5981]

Keep researching, it will start to make more sense. Also consider having him look into national guard flight opportunities. Or even just do the guard and then use GI bill to pay for flight school

[@bandoffamily]

What are the 3?

[@STRATEXENGINEERING]

Same with me

[@hugefootballfan2914]

I don’t really want to go to college first, I’d rather go straight to flight school but my family is pushing me to go to college just in case. I am thinking about attending Western Michigan or one of the Embry-Riddle locations. This video was very helpful

[@hugefootballfan2914]

I am in High School tho so I still have time to think about things cuz I don’t graduate till 2027

[@landandehaven9575]

I will be going to Auburn University next year for Aviation to start with my Instrument Training. Here is a list of the colleges I looked at during my search and ordered in category. Large School: 1.Auburn 2.Oklahoma University 3. Western Michigan University 4.Purdue 5. Oklahoma State University (Secondary application for flight program) 6.Ohio State University (Bad program lack of instructors) 7. Arizona State University (Satellite Campus for Aviation) Small Schools (tend to be expensive) : 1. Florida Institute of Technology 2. Embry Riddle There are many I did not mention but those are my top. Keep in mind all programs are relatively expensive but the most cost effective for me was Oklahoma University. I hope this helps those looking.

[@LukePylypciw]

Landan, thanks for the comment! Congrats on Auburn! I think it’s difficult to find any school right now with a surplus of instructors. I haven’t heard of a single flight school that would say they are “fully staffed” or wouldn’t accept more instructors. During my research, which was about a year or so ago, I found that Florida Tech was very competitive with any big school. One thing to consider is that certain universities will not let you progress through your training as fast as you may be on track to do. For example, if you finish your instrument rating 2 months before the semester is over, you may not be able to start commercial until the start of the next semester. Going to FIT, who doesn’t do this, has allowed me to finish all of my ratings in my freshman year. Best of luck in Alabama!

[@markusj7910]

Why would you not say the schools, that’s just bad business 😐 like people wanna fly right away and your gate keeping for the people who don’t know.

[@Arty863]

I want to be a pilot but also mostly wants to go to a university. Many people says that going to university to become a pilot is not worth it. Instead going to military or flight school is better option. Some strongly suggests Air Force including my dad. I don't have problem with that but sometimes i wish to have you know having those uni life experiences, graduation gown...... Ahh why am i so confusing :)

[@Legitslayer12]

Military is not the way to go because you need to be an officer to fly and that requires a college degree anyways. I'm a CFI and did two years AFROTC. I love the military stuff just knew it wasn't the way to go with the current pilot shortage.

[@majdave2483]

So you don’t want a four year degree? Then go to a part 141 school and skip college.

[@9LimaAlpha7]

what are the requirements to obtain a work permit in the USA to instruct as a CFI in flight schools, from a non US-Citezin perspective.

[@wesleygolden1000]

If you are visiting, impossible. If you have a visa, then you have to go back to your country and apply for a Work Visa. It sucks but that's the only way really

[@kevinmoberly1398]

Look into Eastern Kentucky University Aviation. Fantastic program!

[@UnpopularOpinion314]

Love the feedback. My son is finishing his sophomore year in hs and this is a local school that he is interested in attending.

[@olgasewell1498]

Please share your top 3 choices for school

[@pilotrserra]

Purdue Global university (Purdue university online) is the least expensive. You fly at your local airport and earn an aviation degree online…the best option.

[@denisIoI]

can you explain this a little more, this sounds very interesting to me

[@Leul2006]

@@denisIoIsearch it up

[@Leul2006]

@@denisIoI I’m trying to see if charlotte North Carolina is a good place for action collage degree

[@travelingjohn69]

My guy just put something on my mind because I was thinking about going back to college for flight training because I already have a BA degree but I'm looking to become a pilot.

[@user-fg4ow1ww3m]

I am Egyptian and I wish to come with you to study aviation, but I do not have enough money 😢

[@pjrussellteamjesus568]

Get scholarships if you are smart you can achieve anything in the world

[@boolkids464xx7]

Can anyone help me I want to really just go to flight school and can’t afford it even if I finance to join an airline but being Native American my tribe will pay for aviation school to get a degree but won’t pay for flight schools if it’s just a certification only if it has a degree with it

[@Avgeek0926]

Part 141 Student here at BAKERSFIELD. Be sure to kiss some peoples ass because it is the way for you to succeed as quick as possible. Also, this will give you a %100 job in the school. I have been in my school for almost 4 years now and I have been waiting for my CFI initial for 8 months and it is no fun since you get to forget things! You will not be that proficient and you will suffer at the end because you will have to pay more to get back to it. The school offers a 3 year degree with your certificates and rating, but again, it depends if you kiss ass. Flight training is supposed to be fun and the school should support you along the way, but here, it does not feel that way. They only want your money and your praise. GOODLUCK on finding a good part 141 school. If I had a chance to go back in time, I would go Part 61. It may be a longer journey, but it is way relaxing and fun.

[@user-bf6kz3qp7e]

hi @Avgeek0926, i have a question, 61part is more flexible and cheaper but it takes a long time to study. part 141 faa is more expensive and strict but faster than part 61?

[@Avgeek0926]

@@user-bf6kz3qp7e part 61 is waay faster, however the case is that: the more money and time that you have, the more faster you can finish. Also, yes it is cheaper. Part141 is more expensive because a degree is included and theres is a curriculum that must be done. You don’t have the decision for the flight scheduling. Its them who will decide when and what time you can fly unlike part 61

[@rohitharl8644]

what do you think about purdue university ?

[@Piifff]

Currently consider now, have you decided? Can you offer any insight?

[@SanjayKumar-yn1cb]

Thanks for this. I really needed this. I`ve decided to do CPL and aviation degree together. I`m 16. I`ve chosen to start flying now do SPL AND PPL then CPL and aviation degree together(in 18). What`s ur opinion in this? And kindly also tell me if I`ll start flying now will it be hard to manage both aviation study and my secondary(11 and 12 grade) studies?

[@indigosumo1994]

I'm doing the same, with Aps it's kinda tough but I mostly just focus on flying on the weekend

[@BarefootBrothersDrive]

Yes but some schools are over priced

[@matoven9817]

I am a track and field athlete who is in the top 10% of athletes i also have a 4.1 gpa but i havent taken the act yet. I most likely would want to attend university of baylor because of there track team and how i could most likely go to school there for free. does anyone have any information on baylors aviation program?

[@LukePylypciw]

@@matoven9817 Go on their website and read about the program! Looks like they fly light sport airplanes which I’m not familiar with. I’m sure it’s a great program given the school that’s running it

[@feiren2780]

Does anyone have experience with UND? How's that pilot program?

[@user-os6if5rk5i]

can someone tell me about kent state university flight program and if it has this con

[@RednoseAbraham]

Anybody have an idea about southwest Oklahoma state university aviation?

[@birukderejebiruk8449]

Is UMES go university to study professional piloting.

[@ddmcam1080]

i live near it and ive heard pretty good things about it, i know someone who is almost a year ahead as a freshman.

[@harisawan7173]

Hey! What about florida tech University? Does this university is best for masters aviation management

[@LukePylypciw]

Check out my video on FIT!

[@harisawan7173]

@@LukePylypciw ok brother

[@yons3356]

Bro looks like jfk

[@chiefsallday8479]

Does anybody know if Arizona State university is a good flight school?

[@StrictlySports]

yes. well there fine however you have to live on the polytechnic campus you can’t live in tempe so

[@DreamDareDo1]

You're out of focus and it's killing me.

[@jozitro4554]

Do they require the jab?💉

[@quentina7563]

If they have common sense and understand public health, then yes.

[@UnpopularOpinion314]

@@quentina7563seriously?

[@HANKAK47]

Embry Riddle Student GET YOUR PPL BEFORE COMING! I had made an incredible mistake thinking I could easily build my time from PPL to CFI while attending ERAU, and this has even been pushed by faculty. It is a lie. And do not believe that it will be easier for you just because you can apply for student loans to pay for your flight training. I was unable to fly until my sophomore year and then COVID had hit setting me back even further. I was unable to start flying until my second year of the fall which had my class courses and pilot experience completely misaligned with each other making it difficult to learn properly. I was taking Instrument and commercial ground courses while still trying to pursue my private license, which was set at such a high pace due to me being set so far behind with flight block rescheduling. By the time I became a Junior I had to switch my degree from Aeronautical Science to Aeronautics with about $20K in the hole with no licenses and hope to be able to resume flight training at a local flight school when I graduate this fall. PROCEED THIS UNIVERSITY WITH CAUTION. If you come from a Lower-Middle class family it will be difficult trying to (1.) Learn how to fly (2.) Work and pay your rent (3.) Pass your classes within 4 years, all at the same time. If you do not fall into this category then you will be just fine. When you do graduate and start working as a CFI for the University you are paid $15 an hour, and you become stressed with the workload of countless students and difficult scheduling (I asked questions about my flight instructor's opinions). So please just go to a Part 61 flight school and then find work as an AG pilot, Instructor, or tow banners. The only thing I will be getting out of this is a piece of paper with ERAU stamped on it and $90K in debt. Granted, I am thankful for the university for supplying us with connections with regional and commercial carriers at their career fairs.

[@chasesawyer8087]

Most straight up comment ever. I want to be a pilot and I also want that restricted ATP. Planning on getting my PPL during highschool so when I do go to a college/university I can get a degree and restricted ATP. But reading this my main choices were UND or ERAU. I was gonna apply to all the aviation colleges though. I just know the most FASTRACK is going to a 4 year for that R-ATP. So what you are saying is if you don’t go to ERAU with your PPL don’t go at all or just don’t go it all with or without PPL. Searching for a lot of colleges atm. I could do Part 61 or 141 outside and not go to college or do online but not sure how my parents would like that.

[@HANKAK47]

@@chasesawyer8087 you are on the right path if you are planning on doing your PPL outside of the university. To them you are just another body that they will have to compete with and it is not a healthy learning environment. The industry is so desperate for pilots that as long as you have the minimum required hours with multi-engine and a commercial they will accept you. Do not listen to your parents if they say "oh but you will kill two birds with one stone by getting a bachelor degree and your licenses!". My family said that to me and I blindly went along and it did not end well. Outside the university, you can have a good relationship with a small circle of instructors who are charismatic and make it fun to learn. ERAU instructors just want to get their hours and push you out of the way. Incredible professors, but the flight department here needs a healthier change.

[@hey9433]

@@HANKAK47 So were you able to become a pilot at least with the 90K?/On your way to become an airline pilot building hours? How many hours were you able to build?

[@HANKAK47]

@@hey9433 No. My backup attending the college is obtaining a Dispatch License Certificate. I have 63 hours flight time as a student pilot. Realizing the debt I was getting in only in private training I decided to get out of the flight program and finish my Bachelor's without flight training. Had I continued I would be up to $250K in debt possibly more. Not worth it. Go to a 61 school thats cheaper.