Here’s Why Watch Experts Like Nico Leonard HATE Hublot (and MVMT)

[@watchfinder]

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[@pepepepito623]

The longest Hublot commercial ever! Using funny walrus 'name and a misspelled word as points... "Dislike" and "don't recommend this channel "for sure,sanitized comment is expected.

[@coolst0rybruh]

MVMT was the most significant watch i have ever purchased. It was SO BAD i started researching more about watches and got into mechanical heaven.

[@joshuae9404]

A friend has a MVMT watch (and still wears it). When he showed it to me, I saw something flying around in the watch and I got confused for a second - until he held his wrist still for a moment and I realized IT WAS THE HOUR MARKERS! Several (at least 4 or 5) of them had fallen off and he was like "Oh yeah, it's been like that for a few months now. They must have fallen off when I accidentally knocked the watch against the table or something". I swear I am not a watch snob but I haven't brought the topic up with him ever again.

[@jk25653]

Super happy for you. My first adult watch was Michael Kors. I cringe now. But, it has a sentimental value, so I still wear it. I hope you purchase something you love and keep for years to come!

[@joshuae9404]

@@jk25653 Sentimental value is super important, too. I have an Emporio Armani I got as a gift for my highschool graduation for my parents. I wore it almost daily for over 10 years and I cherish it to this day.

[@Agent-vj3ns]

@@jk25653 mine was a vsf 126610 submariner. I have 6 of them in black and 4 with green bezels. Lifetime supply of subs 😎

[@jk25653]

@@Agent-vj3ns Fantastic collection! I'm actually looking for a green bezel sub! You might be the man to call, so that I can snatch one off of you :]]. Enjoy your collection!

[@a.krawion1872]

My problem with the Hublot is that I can't see the watch because I'm so focused on the screws that aren't aligned

[@VersedNJ]

Doesn't matter, those who have them, are stoned on something and wouldn't notice. Got to find Nico drunk and put a Hublot on him.

[@iggysfriend4431]

God yes, I totally agree. Misaligned screws on a watch that expensive would drive me nuts. I've just seen a Tsar Bomba watch (never heard of the brand before) on Amazon for £189, it's a kind of ripoff/homage to the Hublot case design/shape, and it has all the screws aligned. If they can do it for under £200, why can't Hublot on a watch for £10k plus?

[@jordigudiol4149]

I believe they are not allowed to align them because that's a Royal Oak trademark/patent.

[@a.krawion1872]

@@jordigudiol4149 You mean that as a joke? Only trademark AP has regarding the screws is the amount of screws. Royal oak has 8 Hublot has 6 so they are clear.

[@Philipp673]

The Royal Oak hasn't aligned screws, these aren't screws but nuts that are held by screws from behind. In addition, the supposed screws of the Royal cannot be turned at all because they are hexagonal and embedded

[@mdleweight]

The "hate" of MVMT comes from their representing themselves as something they are not, and attempting to overcharge as a result. There is nothing wrong with a cheap disposable watch if it is priced as a cheap disposable watch.

[@melody3741]

EXACTLY. The disingenuity is the problem. If they were honest and fairly priced then I would consider them okay.

[@David-ud9ju]

From the name, the logo and the advertising, they're clearly a brand/marketing lead company who are doing exactly what you say. Using marketing and influencers and the California vibe to trick people into thinking it's cool to own a MVMT, but brand recognition and marketing is why people love the mediocre stuff that Disney make and why people buy iPhones, so you can't really criticise them for that.

[@SuperBechti]

I think the hate of it comes from the fact that those watches are crap. That’s all

[@in10sken]

The problem is that there are actually cheap brands that offers a higher quality than movrment.

[@SuperBechti]

@@in10sken the quality is mainly in the movement if not it’s not a watch but a jewel

[@kbbarton1]

I had not ever imagined the possibility that a watch made out of recycled plastics could've sourced its materials from old loo brushes, but now that's in my head forever. Thanks a lot. :)

[@markiangooley]

Old loo brushes would probably provide higher-quality plastic than waste collected from the ocean.

[@brianmsahin]

Of course now you can get a Moonswatch made out of recycled actual ceramic toilets and waste cooking oil!

[@jerryglasses2229]

I like the Hublot classic fusion 3 hand. Good looking watch but not for almost $8000 USD. At that price point there are so many nice watches better brand names.

[@MrKinghuman]

Took me a second to figure out what a loo brush was. Lol.

[@patrickhascall7401]

Utterly fraudulent.

[@sylinmino]

Hey Watchfinder, something that should be noted about these MVMT watches (and what makes them such a ripoff) is that while their ads look sleek and nice, the watches fall apart in the details and you REALLY start to notice all the deficiencies when you get one in person. Sizing completely off from the style of the watch, super flat details, quartz modules that are obviously way too small for the case size, awful QC issues, subpar straps and bracelets, and so on. If these watches were $50 or less that'd be fine. But paying $150 and up on these? An absolute rip-off.

[@saijinkai]

These watches can be bought for less than $2 from China.

[@pistonburner6448]

There are sub-150€/$ proper brand Swiss-made watches available, so paying $150 for MVMTs is ridiculous. I've bought excellent Wenger watches for my nieces and nephews which I've got on discount for even under €100 and list price under €150 (same in dollars). Wenger are reliable Swiss-made watches from the Victorinox-owned original Swiss army knife brand, made with really good quality control, worldwide 3 year warranty, service centres worldwide. You can even get automatic models from them for under $500. Casios and Seikos can be had for well under €100. I see no point in buying those Ali Baba Chinese fake marketing company watches...they're not good quality and on top of that they're not cheap! Especially if they have to be thrown in the trash after a few months.

[@mitchmitchell9588]

But those videos of celebrity DJs, skaters and beautiful people in Hawaii...how could you not want to be down?!?!?! (Note: I'm being intentionally sarcastic to reflect the cynicism some of us experience during this period known as late-stage capitalism. No need to break it down further.)

[@SonOvaSon]

Affordable luxury comes at a price, friendo.

[@sylinmino]

@@SonOvaSon you're right! Affordable luxury comes at the price of both affordable and luxury lmao. And well, quality at all, really

[@sebi65490]

My first watch was a MVMT, one like in 4:24 but in black. I never really liked wearing it. But you are right: It’s a gateway drug. I’m glad to have discovered to world of „real“ watches now. And while still in the same-ish price category, I enjoy my current watches SO much more!

[@Andrewtimoni]

‘Gateway Drug’ regarding MVMT is so true! Three years ago I bought a MVMT, Fossil, and Vincero. Today I have a Tudor Black Bay, Breitling Superocean, and Omega Seamaster.

[@picanha694]

My gateway drug watches is tissot 😂

[@dr.kevinmoore8889]

Wow!!!

[@larsf.4756]

Invicta has a very simple yet plausible value proposition: People have bad taste. Give them what they want at the lowest price possible. (It's not that easy to argue with that.)

[@deansusec8745]

Like restaurants- fast food pizza, mexican or chinese. People DO have bad taste, most are hillbillies.

[@Mr_Paw_revised]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@deansusec8745I love all of those. Almost always good food reasonably priced. With the exception of Domino’s. Their pizza was shit.

[@zunuf]

Around 10 years ago I got some fancy looking Invicta watch for maybe $100 because it was marked on sale from $700 on Amazon and I was a dumb kid. A few days after I got it the second hand came off. I took it to a watch repair shop and he told me it'd cost more to repair it than it's worth. I think he told me to look into Seiko watches. I was sad, but then I learned a lot more about watches and mechanical movements.

[@diavalus]

It was a hard lesson, but on the long term, a good one. We’ve all been there.

[@blasphemer_amon]

$100 is a pretty small price to pay for a life lesson like that

[@tomw485]

If you like the Hublot aesthetic consider the Zenith Defy. Similar aesthetic, lower price and excellent in house calibre movement. In fact the Defy El Primero 21 has one of the coolest chronograph movements period at any price point.

[@karlsenula9495]

Plenty of 'steam punk' watches on Amazon and probably Aliexpress too.

[@tomw485]

@@karlsenula9495 Im talking about the skeletonized Big Bang and Fusion watches. Zenith Defy is similar but with a real movement from a real watch maker. If someone wants something like those stupid Ferrari engine things I don’t know what to tell them other than they have more money than sense.

[@vipinsuriya007]

Zenith and it’s movements are one of the most underrated stuff in luxury watch segment. I prefer chronomaster to Daytona . Defy collection is a great too.

[@humblewiz4953]

@@tomw485 💯 weird thing is that they both come under Lvmh

[@jimmyjay122]

I can appreciate them both separately, but I see your point. I love the Defy 21. Generally, I like chronographs. 8 out of my 10 mechanical watches are chronographs. And I agree, the Defy 21 is in a league of it’s own. I hope to have one someday. I came so close a couple of times. Funny enough the Hublot that I’m currently interested in basically has an El Primero movement :)

[@julioerodriguez6097]

Agreed! Everybody start somewhere. Then why not start with a proper watch company like Seiko for less money? I never liked the MVMT business model. Getting cheap Chinese watches, re-branding them and marking up the price 200% for a subpar quality watch.

[@SSJfraz]

They're not all bad. I've got a San Martin submariner homage and it's pretty damn good.

[@diavalus]

@@SSJfraz so is a cheaper Orient, but the Orient has one more plus: is not a clear copy of the Sub.

[@TIMETECH07]

My gateway watch is a Seiko, and its the best decision I have ever made so far

[@buying_Time]

Then again Seiko has so poor Quality Control these days I would steer clear of them, at least the old seiko5 line up. It is almost like if you are lucky you get a good one.

[@TIMETECH07]

@@buying_Time mine has no issues with quality, probably lucky (SNKD99K1)

[@mwk9473]

I used to work at an AD of MVMT. I handled scores of them. Mostly while cleaning the display, because otherwise there was no reason to. While Daniel Wellington is way more badly made, MVMT "quality" don't fall far behind. I'd say one's better off just buying the cheapest watch at a petrol station store. Or at a Tesco. While Hublot and MVMT are light years apart in quality, they're just monuments to bad taste in their respective tiers.

[@bigpops74]

I don't hate Hublot, I just wouldn't buy one, even if I could afford it. I don't hate MVMT either, I just don't pay any attention to them. They're just a fashion watch, like something you'd see Boss, or Armani stamped on.

[@finnandrei5745]

The very wrong thing these fashion watches is that they claim themselves to be luxurious and they charge a lot for a quartz movements that are priced very low. The quality control is also worse.

[@DarrenBates]

Yep. They just have a bit more clever marketing. Infuriates me when I see people wearing Daniel Wellingtons, because it's just a complete waste of money. For the price of 1 (one) Daniel Wellington watch you can buy: Anywhere between 6 and 10 Casios in various styles to suit all purposes and fashions, or Maybe 2 Orient watches, with in house automatic calibres and sapphire crystals. Thinking maybe a Kamasu and a Bambino, or 1 relatively high quality Swiss quartz watch such as the OG Tissot PRX.

[@smashexentertainment676]

Nearly all fashion and instagram watches are outsourced blanks from China 3-15 bucks a piece with zero original design. They just slap their brand on a dial and sell it for 1000%+. Most of fashion brands even buy same blanks with little to no modifications. If you look at aliexpress, you can often find exact copies with Chinese brand on a dial. And quality control ends at Chinese factory where they make 100 if not 1000 watches a day and take market by quantity, not quality. You can probably ask to replace your broken fashion watch 10 times for free and still be ripped off. At this point you'll be technically paying much less for a Rolex on a grey market. Kinda legal scam if you ask me.

[@MrLogistician]

@@DarrenBates it's not even clever marketing; they're trying to copy Apple and are replacing Apple products with their crappy watches.

[@lafireteamplx3400]

Grand Seiko charges thousands for a glorified quartz too

[@adewgg6862]

luxury is relative, some people like a hand crafted well made watch, while others like a brand and a fashion statement. While MVMT and Hublot are not my style i dont really hate them, and i dont really think that either interpretation of luxury is wrong.

[@devams1]

I appreciate Hublot for doing something different. The watch industry isn't exactly big on trying new things and while Hublot is overpriced, at least they aren't releasing the same dive watch over and over again like most other brands do. When releasing the same watch but with a yellow dial is considered a mind blowing change, you know there's a certain level of stagnancy in the industry.

[@Chris-pb3se]

I’m lucky enough to own several luxury brands( Omega, GS, Rolex). I just ordered the colored Bevis and Butthead watch in the middle of your vid. It’s definitely going dead center in my display case. I’m absolutely stoked. Thanks for bringing it to my attention

[@Jordandagostino]

Invicta pro divers are fairly popular in the watch modding community some people have made some crazy modded watches from the base pro diver watch. The NH35a in it makes it a very good workhorse base to mod from

[@acrspeed]

And during certain sales, it's actually cheapest way to get an NH35. Cheaper even than buying the movement itself.

[@Mr986Willis]

I use an Invicta Pro Diver. I work in construction I'm a crane operator and it lets me keep track of the time between gusts of wind. And at that price I'm not bothered if it gets broken.

[@rainydaywatches6508]

LOL, this video opened with a Vincero ad! Anyway, how about Shinola? A defunct shoe polish manufacturer that was revived to make "Built in Detroit" watches that are built from Chinese cases and off the shelf Selita movements. The Federal Trade Commission even had to step in and take away their "Made in America" labeling, but I don't know if the new motto is any more honest.

[@karlsenula9495]

I'll wait for the Utz watch thanks 😁

[@rainydaywatches6508]

@@karlsenula9495 on a Faygo Root Beer brown strap!

[@NicholasOdinson]

Never thought I would hear Beavis and Butthead referenced on this channel.

[@hellohello-dp6wg]

😅😅😅😅😅

[@gman7940]

He’s referenced a few things that similarly kinda surprised me. The narrations so professional sounding you almost forget that he’s a dude like you and I haha.

[@RockyBergen]

Love these long format back and forths!

[@sebastien6483]

I hated Invicta until I realized that it was a gateway of sorts into an interest in watches. I wouldn't buy one but I appreciate that they started a conversation for many people that Apple would have been happy to end.

[@lukerabin5079]

MVMT just seems like a US rave producers answer to department store watches, and Hublot looks like the arriviste insurance salespersons answer to the same thing. Both suffer from being just a little too ‘over wrought’, as such.

[@light1531]

You chose my favourite Hublot. Been to your stores and holding the watch in person, well that blue moonphase ‘pops’. Skeleton effect is great.

[@rajmehta6210]

Big bang unico 42m at 13k is great value In house chrono fly back at less than half the cost of the AP offshore

[@ridetheapex]

6:47 Recycle Reduce Re-use. That is the way I learned it back in elementary school in the first few years of the 90's. Funny how a simple phrase can stir up memories that old. Good times.

[@chewbster]

“Reduce Reuse Recycle”

[@Sams911]

Hublot is pure marketing... to think you can buy a decent Holy Trinity watch like a Vacheron Constantin Overseas for the price of even a lower end Hublot just makes me cringe.

[@MaxVroomfondel]

I want that black Beavis and Butthead Invicta.

[@mitchmitchell9588]

@king kronos Me too!

[@BabyJesus66]

The yellow one is better and I hate yellow. If it wasn't 3 feet wide I might consider really buying one. That is a fun watch and Mike Judge is a genius.

[@antonluyt]

I would love to know what you think of Steinhart.

[@201950201950]

I would never buy something that's way overpriced just because it looks cool. Knowing that it's essentially a fashion watch for an extravagant price I wouldn't do that. I would buy used though and we all know how well Hublot holds their value.

[@OscarRPalma]

I agree with the dial and tinkering but a Sellitas as a movement? At that price they should offer some in-house, they are not even COSC.

[@fawncashew]

I had completely forgotten about Kahuna watches mentioned at 4:40, I think i had one as my second ever watch (the first being a cartoon tie in baby's first watch). I think I still have it somewhere, still with original packaging. Coincidentally the watch I got after that was of the next brand you mentioned, Citizen. Lost that one in a car crash, and replaced it with my first proper watch. RE Hublot, I actually don't hate them,but that's mostly because I deserve almost all my watch related hate solely for Richard Mille haha

[@alst4817]

Remember kahuna too, I went for an “Animal” watch of a very similar type!

[@davidhunternyc1]

I wish you guys would make a feature length review of the Citizen 001 AQ6010-06A 18K White gold watch. Is it the greatest watch ever made or will it be an also ran?

[@karlsenula9495]

Are you sure about the lum on the MVMT recycled Ocean plastic watch? Have you had it in hand or just going by the advertising on their website? Lum is one of the things most often over promised and under applied?

[@enriqueborunda]

What's your opinion on the HUBLOT Classic fusion black magic ceramic ? I love the simplicity of the watch but have no idea if it.s a good quality piece.

[@fransker13]

When it comes to big gawdy watches, I have one: a g-shock mudmaster and boy do I love it ! Puts a smile on my face

[@d.jacobush.7389]

There seems to be something with the audio, some microphone clipping perhaps? Anybody else experiencing the same?

[@karlsenula9495]

Well apparently not everyone hates them ... after all they do sell quite few watches. What helps them is excellent sales and marketing and pushback against the watch snobs of some other (particularly high end) brands. As well as understanding the zeitgeist of styles desired by many non-watch enthusiasts - what they want whether minimalistic or lots of flash. Invicta is the same way.

[@rickybobbysdriver555]

A beavis and butthead invicta watch. Was I mistaken or did the watch say swiss movement on the bottom of it? There is so much to explain with that watch.

[@joaquingomez780]

They come with a swiss Ronda quartz movement, so yes

[@fendigucci6307]

The £13k hublot watches movement is only worth £150 this definately corresponds to what archieluxury said about rolex and of other swiss watches only costing around £1000 to make.

[@nahidrahman]

10:28 don't the misaligned screwheads on the bezel and lugs annoy your ocd?

[@timebyraf]

Well, at least they are shown like real screws are - unaligned. The aligned „bolds“ on the Royal Oak for instance annoy me, because they just don’t make any sense.

[@Gaeb]

I would love to know your thoughts on the brands Fossil and Filippo Loreti. I have examples from both companies and they seem to be decent enough for their price point but I am curious what a more knowledgeable person has to say. The first watch I ever purchased was a Fossil and I still love the way it looks now.

[@longlivegarybusey6409]

Fossil watches were also my first introduction into the world of watch collecting. They are great watches for the price. Internally they are generally very simple and low cost which isn't a bad thing since they still get the job done. For lack of a better comparison they are like the AK-47 of watches. Simple reliable mechanism, low cost materials, easy to produce in high quantities, minimal maintenance required, and used by people all over the world. It wouldn't make sense for even the most die hard gun collector to say that an AK is a "bad" gun just like Fossil watches are not "bad" watches. They're simply accessible and reliable tools. But because of this they aren't investments and don't cater to those who want high quality precision components. There's no rarity to them or high level craftsmanship required in their production. Just the other day I almost purchased an unused mint condition Fossil watch from the 90's that I had as a kid and it sold for a whopping $40+shipping. It had the original box, all the papers, protective plastic still on it, and still sold for less than it did 30 years ago. In hind sight whoever was selling that watch got absolutely nothing out of storing it and protecting it all those years. So it really depends on why you are buying a particular watch and what you hope to get out of owning it. Hope this helps.

[@andrewkarsten5268]

If you want a tough watch that will last, one that you're going to wear, Fossil is the watch to get, in my opinion. They're cheap, and from my experience really stand up to abuse well. I've owned many Fossils, and my first one I got 10 years ago still runs today and is in my collection. I've done cement work, fallen on the pavement skateboarding, and many other things while wearing that watch, and it still runs great with a minor scratch (can't even see it unless you look for it) on the crystal. Point is, for the price, you'll be hard pressed to find such a sturdy watch, Sure, the design isn't as flashy or clean as other watches, but I'd rather have a sturdy watch than a flashy one. Not to say they don't look good, they do. Also, I just recently got a fossil mechanical watch, that's a skeleton design, and I'm in love with it. It's been running great, and just looks great. Not as accurate as a luxury chronometer, or a quartz, but that's what a cheap mechanical watch is going to get you.

[@ofmanynicknames]

If Invicta does a Daria spin-off of their Beavis and Butt-head watches I may be convinced.

[@omarnabilahmed3486]

How do you feel about RMs?

[@DarrenBates]

"The whole thing will smell like strawberry vape" - I've never had a brand so accurately described that the olfactory sense just hit me. Invicta is a brand for vape bros. 26 minutes of some of the ugliest watches known to man - but yes, each to their own.

[@mitchmitchell9588]

@darren bates "olfactory sense just hit me." Well said!

[@vincent67239]

Even the design of the vape devices are similarly gaudy, but not even in an expensive way. Like rainbow damascus and skulls and stuff.

[@justinboudreau5266]

Too bad Invicta actually makes woman’s mechanical divers. Other brand should. Shame.

[@MohammadAWaly]

Hublot have done great work with movements and materials, there’s a lot of creativity and dare i say, even value in their timepieces… would i buy one? Not if I’m looking for value appreciation like what’s found at Rolex, AP or Patek, but i would buy any of their special movement or material pieces… they have their own mix of Gold! Not even AP have that

[@jonathanbroughton604]

So true. People act like Hublot makes crappy movements, but they have some of the most impressive movements in the luxury watch space.

[@tomhurst8307]

@@jonathanbroughton604 such as?

[@aniqanuar6320]

@@tomhurst8307 the golf watch is pretty cool tbh

[@tomhurst8307]

@@aniqanuar6320 golf is a waste of land that could be used for housing change my mind 😂

[@seanlingham5254]

@@tomhurst8307 Unico Hub 1270. Perpetual calendar flyback chronograph with moonphase.

[@crzyruskie86]

I've always wanted a big bang with factory set diamonds. It's even better that everyone hates it because in this world we live in today that usually means you're winning.

[@tmf866]

The Invicta boutique in Times Square, which you show in a photo, *always* has an offer like "buy two get one free" on the video display sign above the door. Inside they try to look all cool and suave, but even before walking in one thinks "if they're that good, why are they offering that deal?" And yes, other than the blatant ripoff designs they seem to try to focus on big, chunky, gaudy watches for the set of people who want a big, chunky, gaudy watch. (My ex boss really wanted one of those. Fortunately the one he was wearing to work was on the smaller end of big and not particularly chunky and not very gaudy and I liked it and that got me into watches. It inspired me to buy one that was less chunky and less gaudy. It is big though.)

[@karlsenula9495]

Other brands should seek to educate and invite in non-watch enthusiasts so they would understand pricing and details and high quality instead of just sticking up their noses at people who buy those brands.

[@ghlibisk67]

As an outside can you answer me why Tag Heuer gets zero coverage/love from sites such as yourself or Hodinkee?

[@thyscott6603]

I'm hyped for Part 2. Please maybe please, upload the videos as podcasts. I mean you describe everything in such a fine detail.

[@pwon]

What happened to your "old" format of showing watches live? I had to scroll back a few years to find such videos. I hope you bring that old video format back

[@thetruebatman4632]

I was not ready at all for the absolutely hilarious sound of such a smooth and well spoken British version of the word “fartknocker”.

[@poupysoopy]

I own an invicta pro diver and it's still one of my favourite watches, i don't love the brand or that they make so many "homages". But for 90 euros it's a good watch to begin your collection with, its waterproof, has a pretty accurate movement, and wears nicely. This isn't a sales pitch and if you can I'd highly suggest buying a watch that has an original design, but if you're on a budget and want a diver, it's an option worth considering

[@karlsenula9495]

Congratulations ... the commenters and community have booked you two on the Invicta cruise. Enjoy 😳

[@jojogpt]

Not a fan of Hublot but I'll be damned if I ever put brands like MVMT, DW, etc in the same category as Hublot. I don't hate Hublot, it is a brand I am indifferent about in the watchmaking world. But as far as brands like MVMT go, I actively oppose them. I'd happily buy a barbie watch rather than an MVMT or DW.

[@larce4158]

I really love the more podcast-like episodes, but could you guys maybe add something in the title or the thumbnail to differentiate these videos from the regular in hand reviews? Keep up the great work guys!

[@vktravellog1242]

If I see a lot of misspellings this leaves me an impression that they are not detailed oriented and lack quality. I am a very picky consumer and if I see these type of things I no longer trust the brand. Company culture is very important and when I see lack of attention to details then usually this means there are corners that are being cut which impacts quality!

[@skzion2]

... which is especially relevant for watches, which by their nature are all about details (like the mastery of detail that is required for accurate measurement of time).

[@airsonurram189]

Just as a bit on nit-picky aside, carbon fibre is specifically the woven stuff that was compared to a picnic basket (in my opinion, it can be done well, it just tends to look a bit tacky in the way it tends to be used), the stuff that you liked is called forged carbon, which is made in a different way. Not trying to be obnoxious, just trying to inform, if anyone is interested in these materials like I am

[@kevinl6231]

Great video but what’s a bad tree🤔❓

[@danielcanizales731]

Unpopular opinion breitling superocean 36mm on rubber over tudor black bay. Breitling has a ceramic bezel

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

I'm really surprised they used a common Allen key for the winding solution on the Hublot LaFerrari. I would imagine they had a titanium center locking nut, waisted occasion...

[@jrock5830]

Weird, I got into buying “respectable” brands after buying a couple fake Hublot’s. Bloody comfortable, they look accurate, had an ETA that kept the time just fine… I thought it looked and felt awesome. Unfortunately, the bug then hit me. Now I can’t really wear it… mainly knowing those are fake, and the Hublot hate hasn’t helped.

[@notgray88]

I will take those terrible fakes off your hands for a few bucks XD

[@Mr_Paw_revised]

A fake with an ETA inside? Really?

[@Unc0mmonSense]

Nothing wrong with Hublot imho. Mvmt is a fashion watch brand targeted at people who just want a watch as an accessory. It isn't meant to be fine watch making and the people that would buy mvmt are not savvy watch buyers. To me, mvmt is like Red Lobster or Olive Garden. It is fine dining for middle america, but hardly what upper class, urban folks would consider a nice restaurant. Same with mvmt.

[@davew8841]

I've never handled an MVMT...but, it does sound rather expensive for what you're getting. My gateway watches were Parnis GMT's....and they were a lot of watch for only $120AUD. Still are, I think. I doubt I'll ever wear them again...and they live in the cupboard, in their boxes. But, I respect them.

[@brendenhayes6099]

Don’t know if I want to buy any of those Hublot’s, but I think now that I want one of those tactical black picnic baskets

[@MsKristy1001]

i hv 2 of them n honestly its pretty nice n i still wear it till this day.

[@kfwimmer]

You guys are great! Whats the dirt on Junghans?

[@vangledosh]

I just can't get over those screws... It sticks out so badly, how can they charge so much money and not align the screws

[@melody3741]

I'm actually very impressed on the ocean solar watch. It's new, it's interesting, it's pretty, if they keep this up they might actually get some respect.

[@Ktrb]

I'm impressed that someone did a 28 minute video on such a topic.

[@BabyJesus66]

Don't forget part 2.

[@mikeuk4130]

The Kahuna has something of the Animal 90s styling about it.

[@chewbster]

I own a gold Invicta. It’s a yachtmaster homage that Rolex never made. I got it as an ironic piece but am wearing it right now. The bezel action is spot on, the Seiko NH35 movement is accurate and displayed on a transparent caseback and the golden bracelet between the lugs doesn’t have any play to it. The crown is signed. These are all things that it does better than my €1000 Seiko Prospex for under €200

[@juleswild9498]

I'm all with you about that we can do with more imagination part 👍🏼 However, I'd go for Rebellion's T-1000 😍 with its 40h and crazy design.

[@Ceaudrious]

Invicta catalog is Big... Just ignore homage watches in the katalog but they do have a lot original design automatic watches that uses NH35, NH36, salita 200, salita 500 or R150 .. As homage invicta they are cheap and even invicta does not care about them.. You notice it in the quality of watch box if invicta is serious or not about the watch you bought.. Invicta specialty 44mm modell 27499 Is pretty nice and you can find this design in other color combination too... Sadly invicta store hate European costumers.. They usually cancel your purchases and give your watch you paid for to US costumers. My only hate is their costumers service

[@simonrano8072]

The three seconds of scrolling the Invicta calatogue gave me terminal cancer

[@planetdee3587]

I really like what Invicta represents. The brand is not for me though i do owm a Pro Diver as a beater watch for work use as it is the best value of all watches period. But i love the brand because they know who they make watches for and their audience really loves them.

[@grumpyoldman2380]

Great video! Its a strange world we live in where Hublot can charge $10k+ for a watch with a Sellita movement and Invicta has watches that have Valjoux 7750 movements for less than $700 (used). Now who feels ridiculous?

[@Out-Of-The-Box-AU]

Look at IWC in house with modified Calhoun for their top gun collection ..also same price although they have longer history

[@VintageInvicta]

Hey! Greetings from an (vintage) Invicta collector

[@markoon139]

Great video! I wish you would have shown Hublot with their in house Unico or Meca 10 movement, because you know all the "watch enthusiasts" will complain about the basic movement in the classic fusion....

[@Nikolaj2702]

I love these videos. Keep em coming

[@ron8146]

They(MVMT)put chronograph in a watch which doesn’t have any tachymeter on the bezel, its just an awful design. In the case of Hublot.. if the price will be same with tissot and Seiko I think it will be justifiable.

[@michaellau2544]

I enjoyed that content. Surprised how good looking and interesting the Hublots are.

[@NA-sb7xz]

Invicta makes watches for the cheap or for people who are 4'30" tall

[@gregwoodin5630]

Not sure if I’m over caffeinated but I was cracking up listening to this 😂

[@mirasga]

Seiko is nice if the minute markers align and the bracelet is not shite.

[@gentlemanlemur202]

11:00 the alignment of the screws is driving me mad

[@buying_Time]

A Nice touch that you put them right beside eachother.

[@dtroutmann]

The Hublot thing is exactly this reason that it's a $13,000 watch with $150 bill now Nico doesn't give them credit for material use and design and they're pretty cutting-edge they were the first to make a watch from a sapphire case and other such things but in the end $15,000 for a $200 movement no matter what cases did is a bit much if you get a bye in a movement by in a jlc

[@300001111]

U didnt mention the nowadays great in house movements of hublot ☹️

[@psyphi407]

I think Movado bought MVMT for a pretty good chunk of change. So love em or hate em, those guys won.

[@saijinkai]

If they are ok living for the rest of their lives by scamming people by telling people that Mvmt is as good as rolex Yada yada well go for it. But for some of us that reached the top with integrity we can sleep well at night

[@karlsenula9495]

Probably worth the price they paid for the name recognition and marketing that has brought in thousands of young twenty somethings who probably weren't into watches before MVMT's marketing intrigued them and sold them in wearing a watch. Worth the brand loyalty of young up and comers instead of older 'well I made it' customers. Always good to think about the future. They can always improve the quality, manufacturing and pricing issues.

[@garyboyle695]

They did they paid tens of millions for it and sold Piaget to finance it. That tells you all you need to know.

[@dtroutmann]

At least Invicta started as a Swiss company and is now back in the ownership of the original family and they do have an option for a Swiss Movement now that said when they do get creative it's creatively horrifically

[@Adil-sm3yz]

The bezel screws on Hublot watches really annoy me a HUGE amount (I hate that they're not aligned) but their use of materials is nice, their sapphire and ceramic pieces are interesting

[@m.s.g1890]

I literally wowed at some of the Invictas near the end. Never seen anything like them, and wonder who on this earth would buy one eg 24:25

[@BabyJesus66]

That Beavis and Butthead watch is 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@artokujala]

That copying thing with Invicta is pretty tedius but having hundreds of hideous chuncks in all imaginable colours is straight up middle finger to someone who says ”you can’t wear a watch like that” and it’s fun as hell 😀

[@mjf70]

MVMT is one of many companies that work in the same way, a marketing company that sells this or that rather than a company that sells this or that and then has to market them. Although you could say that about Rolex too, except Rolex’s this or that is a Rolex.

[@nickgee7291]

I have a soft spot for hublot, I wanna add the classic fusion 38mm magic black to my collection. I like the case shape and bracelet

[@weareallbeingwatched4602]

My criteria Question: does it tell the time? Question: does it weigh less than too much? Question: does it cost less than £50 to replace? (Or £150 if waterproof).

[@weareallbeingwatched4602]

So... my next purchase is a 1970s Sorna.