We Bought a $1,000 Alienware Gaming PC...How Bad Is It?

[@Ry_toast24]

You know what doesn’t suck… the editing on this video! Give that guy a raise

[@ikram2512]

for me its their monitor

[@BREEZYM6015]

I'll pay him to teach me how to edit. 😂

[@Barry111]

Bot

[@Ry_toast24]

@@Barry111 you’re a bot, bot.

[@Barry111]

@@Ry_toast24 dude change your name or atleast your pfp

[@moosemeriley]

Alienware really needs to fix their inside. Almost all of it looks horrible and sadly, the case only works with their parts.

[@Skillmaticgaming]

I upgraded my girlfriends Area 51 r6, handles all new upgrades I threw at it!

[@Hickeroar]

The R16 will be a complete redesign.

[@I_look_like_an_egg]

that cooler need to be fixed

[@yeetus59]

I remember back when Alienware wasnt proprietary. In 2014 I bought an alienware system with an i7 4770 and the motherboard and everything else was modular so I was able to gut everything out of the oven of a case and put it all in a standard atx style case. Its a shame they've gone all proprietary just like HP.

[@NEDMKitten]

Dell is shit hardware

[@turks1966]

The newest Alienware's, I think they are labelled R16 are vastly different from this case design. I still don't like the lack of ventilation they have and how much they charge for them brand new. Personally, I prefer to build my own, but thanks for showing this product.

[@andrewb4654]

I'm amazed how many tech KZbinrs don't know what the orange rca style connection is, it is a digital audio output or subwoofer when it is next to all the other audio connections, I've never seen it used for anything else.

[@keithjones589]

most youtubers don't use high end audio solutions, I just couldn't remember the name of the port

[@LatitudeSky]

Most people under 30 have never used component home stereo or home theater devices, and even fewer have ever worked with pro audio. They have a soundbar if anything and probably just use HDMI. It's kind of good the bros know what the optical jack is for. Personally, I have never used the coax digital. The fiber optic cables are just my preference.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

I game on a 5.1 DD system.

[@jt7819]

I got an Alienware Ryzen Edition in 2020. It has been a total champ; I would totally buy another.

[@TheLuckyPenny]

I’ve had one for over a year now and it awesomely underrated!!

[@AmigaWolf]

Why not make your own, is MUCH cheaper and better, a Alienware Desktop PC you cannot fit there MB's in another PC Case, and you cannot replace there PSU's, because it used connectors that only fit there s***y MB's, so if it breaks after warranty, your F ed. And the cooling (heatsinks) VRM's and MOSFET on there MB's are also awful, very bad cooling, i absolutely do not want to know how hot they get, same for the Gen 4 SSD, that has no heatsink.

[@jediguy634]

@@AmigaWolf I agree with every use case on why you should "just build your own" but alienware is marketed towards the 95% of people who dont have the technical expertise & time to build one OR just simply dont want to deal with the troublehooting if something goes wrong. Dell is VERY much marketed towards the "everyday" person and yes the price reflects that. Dells extended warranty & replacement system is also one of the best in the business which is important to the vast majority of people who use PC's & game casually.

[@AmigaWolf]

@@jediguy634 Yeah but then buy it from a store who put normal stuff into a computer case, and not MB's who cannot be put in every other computer case, and same for the PSU, and that Dell Alienware Desktop Case use very cheap MB's that has almost no cooling on the VRM's and MOSFET, and no cooling on the SSD, and a VERY cheap cooler on a high end CPU, when this computer was easily $3000. Even people who not know anything about computers should do there homework MUCH better, it takes a few minutes to see if it is any good here on YT.

[@jediguy634]

@@AmigaWolf As someone who works desk-side IT support, you would be surprised at how little "tech talk" the general populous understands. Although KZbin and other websites do a fantastic job reviewing products, this is the same as asking the average American to watch an anime TV show without translations or dubs.

[@LapNgo-h9u]

The orange out on the motherboard is the "digital audio out" coaxial cable. It's a high-end audio cable to an external system.

[@tcbat711]

No, its an Alien port.

[@beagsx3]

Steve from Gamers Nexus just loves these Alienware PCs 😅

[@AmigaWolf]

Yeah and many people know why, a Alienware Desktop PC you cannot fit there MB's in another PC Case, and you cannot replace there PSU's, because it used connectors that only fit there s***y MB's, so if it breaks after warranty, your F ed. And the cooling (heatsinks) VRM's and MOSFET on there MB's are also awful, very bad cooling, i absolutely do not want to know how hot they get, same for the Gen 4 SSD, that has no heatsink.

[@aleksazunjic9672]

GN is a paid shilling company. They badmouth those who do not pay them (like Dell) but then shill for those who do. Infamous PS5 overheating scandal showed that. GN was persuading people not to trust their lying eyes, while their consoles were cooking.

[@TherealBlackheart]

Ive always liked alienware, i had a mx14 r2 laptop that heald up for over a decade. Probably wouldn't pay alienware prices anymore tho

[@LatitudeSky]

Good timing. Looking at putting a 6800XT in my 5800X system, so this helps me get a close idea of how it will perform. The difference between the 5800X and 5900 non X is not much, and almost nothing really challenges the 5800X. The orange RCA jack on the shield is digital audio coax. Same digital signal as the fiber optic except it uses an RCA cable. It is an industry standard in audio equipment. Very common to find it alongside the optical port. Never seen one on a PC before though.

[@FilippoCarrux]

in the back the orange one near the S/PDIF is a digital output. it's an hi end output for professional audio system.

[@candidosilva7755]

The orange port is a coaxial áudio out.

[@AmigaWolf]

Yeah that he did not know that, that has been a thing for a VERY long time for audio, still about all receivers have that connector, i am using the S/PDIF for my Edifier S760D.

[@candidosilva7755]

@@AmigaWolf yeah since socket 775 that was my first introduction to the orange conector but now i also use my spdif with my 7.1 Pioneer reciver and the sound is very good.🔥

[@2528drevas]

I've been building gaming PC's since 1998, and for a long time "Alienware" meant eyeball-bleeding performance. That hasn't be the case for too long.

[@AmigaWolf]

Yeah and many people know why, a Alienware Desktop PC you cannot fit there MB's in another PC Case, and you cannot replace there PSU's, because it used connectors that only fit there s***y MB's, so if it breaks after warranty, your F ed. And the cooling (heatsinks) VRM's and MOSFET on there MB's are also awful, very bad cooling, i absolutely do not want to know how hot they get, same for the Gen 4 SSD, that has no heatsink.

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Well, it is eyeball bleeding performance thanks to 6800 XT. CPU is just chilling, it is huge overkill for games in PS5 era. RAM could be lacking in some more recent titles that Toasty Bros do not test. Fortunately, you could upgrade that without much hassle.

[@kingzilant]

plz post modifications in another video!!! id also love to see if the top plastic can be hollowed out to actually imporve airflow, G-N reported that the top fan is basically just for show.

[@jaredgarcia9210]

My boy m4 Matt is back at it! 😂 good stuff as always guys.

[@Overbuilt.Gaming]

If you want to change the cpu cooler to a 120mm aio you'll need to get one with a intel 1700 compat b/c that is why the cooler is turned slightly sideways, if you look closely you'll see it isn't am4, but rather lga1700. idk why dell offers these with those wimpy air cpu coolers but like you shown they are fine under gaming. Also you have to use the alienware command center to adjust the fan profiles. It defaults to quiet out of the box so it runs the cpu and gpu at less than rated watts at spec. Balanced and Performance increases the watts but also the fan speeds to keep temps in check.

[@Mirra2003-f9s]

My old 4th gen Optiplex 9020 has the same exact heatsink and fan

[@Trainlover1995]

I made the mistake of buying an Alienware Aurora R11 in October 2020, and I'm planning to replace it in June. I'm currently debating whether to go through one of those custom services like iBuyPower or Origin, or buy the components and actually try to build a PC.

[@CraftBeerTastic]

That Ryzen 9 - 5900 non-X is a decent chip and only at 65w TDP. It overclocks well too.

[@AmigaWolf]

Not only that, there is almost no speed difference between a X and Non X same CPU version.

[@Scott-ig1zd]

@@AmigaWolf +1

[@RanFranklin]

Not sure why they don't make their cases new gen with more airflow. It just isn't a match for someone who is a true pc master race enthusiast. They also don't have a good performance to value (dollar amount they ask) for their builds. Some lower tier rigs they sale are at a good price on sale sometimes even lower than you can build for, those ones are cool imo.

[@loudspeakertestsmorebyaida3804]

My case is a lot more ventilated. If Dell added enough ventilation, added a proper 360mm AIO cooler, and made the case bigger, then it would definitely be far more worth it. I also would wish they can add non-proprietary parts that can be used in other builds.

[@Vaderzim45]

Sad my R10 didn’t come with a Ryzen 9 mine had a 7 5800 non X still had the 6800xt mine also have a 120 aio ended up case swapping for better temps

[@linchester8464]

Alienware R16 is a redesign, but interior is the same layout as before. But the exterior has the same vibes at the old Dell Dimension 9200

[@acsgdo02]

Me having to almost a decade of using mini itx looking at this makes me imagine I can fit a build in the attic of that lol

[@sk8ervader]

I'll never understand why these are so expensive. Overpriced computer parts inside of a cool looking case.

[@spookytofu2078]

I'd love for you guys to strap together a aio liquid cooler and see CPU intensive stress tests Vs the stock cooler

[@frankhunyadi9279]

That is a good idea.

[@GTRdeamon]

A comment about cpu. I Dont think that cpu will run much higher temp than seen on this video at low load. The cpu all ready runs at its max wattage at around 75 watt load. No its not a typo. Zen 3 runs at higher wattage than advatized.i have 2 Zen 3 cpus. So know a thing or two of these chips. What you will see however at high load is a higher drop o core clock do to strict watt limitations. 65 watt for 12 cores is pretty strict. But temp will not increase drastically at full load. Zen 3 is actually pretty easy to cool compared to intels newest chip and amd own Zen 4.

[@peterisamazing2756]

Wow this was an amazing video keep up the great work guys!

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

Btw, there's a place for 140mm fan at the front panel!!!

[@CarnorJast1138]

I have an Alienware Area51 R2 Triad Case with all the goodies, and it has worked like a champ for quite some time now. I got her about 8 months ago, to replace my self-built system (I have built every PC I have owned since 1992), so this was my first pre-built unit, and I absolutely LOVE the Triad case. Big, roomy, huge PSU, lots of ventilation, and a liquid cooled CPU. I rock with it an AW768 mechanical RGB keyboard and the AW959 gaming mouse with RGB as well. One thing I like about the RGB of the case, keyboard and mouse is that they are subtle and not flashy! They accent the case and peripherals without being gaudy and over-done as seen in so many units. Sure, it's not the latest, greatest hardware, nor is it gonna win any speed records against today's gaming behemoths, but she works great for me and looks fantastic doing so!

[@alexanders.4591]

Alienware: "Air flow? There's no such thing"

[@The89Lunder]

Am I the only one triggered by the slow RAM in this thing? 2666 Mhz RAM for Ryzen 5000 is a crime. At least dual channel though..... And not just green PCB.......

[@aleksazunjic9672]

There is no much difference between 2666 and 3200 if you are running dual-channel in games. Computer could use more RAM, tho.

[@The89Lunder]

@@aleksazunjic9672 Some examples I have seen have been up to 10% performance difference. I would call that a big difference. (Average yes is likely closer to 5%, but that is still performance left on the table)

[@aleksazunjic9672]

@@The89Lunder Highly unlikely if everything was set up properly. Note that memories with better transfer rate usually have worse latency and other timings. Usual difference is around 1%, i.e. within margin of error.

[@The89Lunder]

@@aleksazunjic9672 Not sure where you are getting your info. You can get good timings and transfer rate, just usually not in pre builts 😅

[@aleksazunjic9672]

@@The89Lunder Nope. As a rule of thumb, each new generation of RAM has worse timings and better transfer rate. Sometimes timings are offset by increased clock speed tho. Nevertheless, operations like switching row sometimes get actually slower in newer RAM types. Thus in real life, with the same CPU, GPU and SSD/HDD, faster RAM would usually get you around 1% of FPS increase.

[@TheG4bush]

What 3rd party program you guys use to show temps, watts being used, framerates, etc, in the top left of the screen?

[@jgchickmag123]

MSI afterburner

[@aleksazunjic9672]

But you need to install RivaTuner Statistics Server with Afterburner, and configure it to display temperature, frame rate etc... in OSD (On-screen display)

[@TimothyWilson-tm1bo]

@toastybros are yall still located in Louisville? Just discovered you guys also in the area

[@pyroslev]

Alienware's biggest enemy is itself being proprietary as it is. Great engineering put into the wrong things. I will always commend them for support brackets for the GPU.

[@TheNkrieg]

How the hell are you guys playing a ranked match on Halo Infinite on the Zanzibar map? I can't find that map anywhere on the game.

[@erictrauman2879]

Undervolting the non x can boost quite a bit

[@Sica1000]

02:17 Min. - I believe that sooner or later, it will become a problem for Dell/Alienware that they are building computers that aren't sustainable. You can't replace the motherboard with a more current version because it doesn't have the standard form factor. This should surely upset customers sooner or later. It upsets me!

[@JMark4]

Is the cpu mounting lined up for LGA1151/1200??

[@baroncalamityplus]

I had an Alienware R10. Wouldn't recommend their older systems like the R10 and this one. The new one looks good but I haven't tested one and I doubt I will.

[@timotejtajhman7121]

Can I ask what software are you using for displaying CPU and GPU temps and usage?

[@AmigaWolf]

MSI Afterburner with RTSS, RTSS will let you see temps and a lot more in games.

[@timotejtajhman7121]

@@AmigaWolf Thank you.

[@AmigaWolf]

@@timotejtajhman7121 Your welkome.

[@Viking8888]

It's highly unlikely Dell made any of USB C ports thunderbolt capable on their AMD systems. It's very rare to see thunderbolt with AMD hardware. It's very slowly happening with laptops though.

[@Patchow]

They didn’t opt for the liquid cooling? 🧐

[@xZevi_theog]

they made a airflow version for their pc's

[@MallocFree90]

hello, is it possible to upgrade the cpu cooler?

[@corneliusantonius3108]

Is there a copper core in that stock cooler?

[@cdw3663]

alienware was never the same after dell bought them back in 2006

[@brett9000]

That PC looks like its flashing an error code during the outro. The flashing white and orange alien dells does its error codes like that.

[@NarutoUzumaki-og1ge]

How is your treatment going so far? Any improvements?

[@brett9000]

@@NarutoUzumaki-og1ge it is going ok still undergoing treatments but I will always be having treatment now

[@NarutoUzumaki-og1ge]

@@brett9000 Wish you the best! You know I really hate cancer bcz I lost a close friend because of a Lung cancer that metastasized. I wish you a good recovery.

[@sk0mi]

Orange plug? It's usually spdif on every other device 🤷‍♂️

[@patpatpat3]

Matt screaming while playing mw2 compilation 😂😂

[@GTArajgaming]

those temps aren't great and the CPU frequency seems to be less stable than my first relationship... the PC side of things is probably dell's fault for their crappy bios, crappy VRM (and lack of VRM cooling) and overall airflow (along with proprietary parts) why people buy dell is an utter mystery to me.

[@Fazesnipes-mx5uj]

why did you not run 4K? This card is targeted for 4K gaming I have the same card

[@brandonhavard7440]

how do u get the fps and cpu and gpu cooler thing on the screen?

[@itsdeonlol]

The R16 has a better new case design.

[@samuelquintana6560]

Hi, I am looking to buy a Windows Licence. Is GVG Mall legit? Can I trust it or should I pay the full price to Microsoft?

[@gamingturbo4910]

Ok i have A hugeeeee question ok, lets say i buy a ASUS Dual NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card from amazon since i cant afford a whole pc and stuff only graphics card. can i plug my dp port 1.4 to my omen gaming moniter and the graphics card together? and will it still work and play perfectly fine?

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Your question is unclear 😁 Do you already have PC ? And no, you cannot plug two graphics sources into monitor. You could either use your graphics card (3050), or integrated graphics if you have it. On the other hand, you could display picture from one source (one graphics card) on multiple displays.

[@gamingturbo4910]

@@aleksazunjic9672 No i dont have a pc what i have is a rtx 3050 just that. you know how it has dp port and hdmi stuff on it right? so can i plug in my dp from my moniter to the rtx and still play my games fine like cod or something? without no pc or anything just my moniter and the rtx 3050.

[@aleksazunjic9672]

@@gamingturbo4910 Obviously you cannot play anything with graphics card alone. You need a lot of things for games to work : CPU , motherboard, RAM, PSU, SSD or HDD ... Where would you plug your GPU anyway ? Notice that it has connectors on its wide side (not in the back, where HDMI is ) that you should plug into computer . You also need to supply it with electricity . I suggest you watch some clip on yt where they actually assemble computer from parts. Then you will understand whole process.

[@gamingturbo4910]

@@aleksazunjic9672 well I have a budget of 288 dollars what can I buy that I will be able to play my games? With some pc parts?

[@aleksazunjic9672]

@@gamingturbo4910 I would say you could get some cheap A520 or even A320 motherboard. Then find Ryzen 5 4500 or even Ryzen 3 4100. Cheapest 2 x 8 GB DDR4 RAM with warranty. Some 500W PSU . 512 GB SSD or even 240 GB if you cannot afford that . Some cardboard box for PC case 😁 (or find some free case in a dumpster, cause you don't have much money ) . MOST IMPORTANT thing - find some friend who could help you with the build. Watch build videos on yt to get some ideas what to do. Good luck.

[@Sproutt]

There’s no at that the cpu cooler is that small… I mean that looks like it came off of a Dell office pc from 10-15 years ago

[@scjgreen]

"The Alien Port" is a Digital Coaxial Audio Port

[@itzmejav995]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@andrewb4654]

Or subwoofer

[@scjgreen]

@@andrewb4654 Nope... It's listed in the manual as "Coaxial S/PDIF connector - Connects to amplifiers, speakers, or TVs for digital audio output through coaxial digital cables. This format carries an audio signal without going through an analog audio conversion process"

[@RuruFIN]

I'm actually surprised how well that R9 5900 works on that toaster with its pitiful cooler.

[@aleksazunjic9672]

No surprise because for all of these games even 5600 is overkill. Cinebench would be different matter, but most gamers do not stress test their CPUs, so there is that.

[@yasu_red]

The 5900 has a 65w TDP and that power is split across 2 dies instead of 1, so it makes sense that it's easy to cool.

[@jediguy634]

How is this still $1500? Feels very on the "budget" end of the alienware spectrum.

[@dave4shmups]

What is the BIOS like on Alienware PCs? Because the BIOS on HP Omen gaming desktop PCs is (from what I’ve seen on the internet) is locked like they’re made for the NSA.

[@tonyjames5730]

orange port is a subwoofer cable…. every vid guys 😂

[@tonypietrowski1104]

its the build not dell. u can order whatever u want from them. and u can order with aio.. a little more investigation on your end with the brand u would of been able to do a better review.

[@hill2hell]

I never likeds proprietory sellers like these. But I think when buying it brand new on their site the person can choose to have an AIO instead of the stock fans. But of course for that's for a hefty extra free.

[@cecilb7927]

Alienware PCs are almost all built to customer specs, the customer chose the air cooler over a 120mm AIO. They are proprietary, and have been ever since Dell bought them many years ago.

[@thelunchbox420x]

That's not true at all.

[@OldManGamin_OMG]

That guy opted for the shitty aircooler. pretty sure it was like 100 bucks extra for the AIO

[@kentyler8280]

It is better to build from your own where you can decide for yourself

[@dastankuspaev9217]

Incredible deal at 1000 dollars

[@aswinsaravanan600]

Are we not gonna talk about their headset?

[@fabi-hu4vt]

im buying a 2nd hand pc, i3 10105f 1070 8gb vram, 16gb ram for like 300$, is it worth it?

[@chabu2306]

Pretty solid deal cl

[@2528drevas]

Yes. The 1070 is getting really long in the tooth, but depending on what you play and the settings it's definitely worth the money.

[@Mozzhiato]

A 1070 is still a very capable GPU so and it's worth 1/3rd of the build so I say go for it

[@openlyracist8055]

I wonder how Intel feels about their brands not using their CPUs and GPUs

[@RanFranklin]

How is Dell their brand?

[@RanFranklin]

@@N_N23296 He said intel owned dell / alienware. I asked how is dell, an intel company? ( wasn't replying to your comment )

[@openlyracist8055]

@@RanFranklin They have partner brands, and both assist in making products. From GPUs, Motherboards, coolers, etc. So when you see a ton of Dell HP and Lenovo equipment an Intel badge is nearby. The brands I was referring to were the Motherboard and Cooler Dell uses, I should have been more specific.

[@openlyracist8055]

@@RanFranklin never said they owned dell

[@bornwisedistruction]

Kinda proprietary, Bro that motherboard is E-EATX

[@deztechs]

The new Alienware systems are actually deviating from this form factor. They're starting to look a bit more like standard ATX systems, with some proprietary nonsense.

[@manygatos885]

I have this Alienware it’s the best computer I have owned 😊

[@CorvetteC7IsCool]

2011: How good is it? 2023: How bad is it?

[@vigneshwaranv5053]

Its better to go for Lenovo/HP prebuilds. They are more Value for money products.

[@idrinkalmondmilk2918]

but their cases are good looking or am i the only one

[@skylerdylan1005]

If i had an alienware I would probably just remove the whole side panel.

[@feedthesnake3394]

if you hate on alienware, you are not alienware's target market. just like if you hate on dell, you are not dell's target market.

[@chabu2306]

Came from twitter lol

[@Broke_wolf_official]

This is what I was waiting for

[@theblueshellthebaneofmario3469]

You guys should went with liquid cooling.

[@jonathandinunzio8964]

I think Thunderbolt is intel only

[@Evxbruh]

The W Bros

[@el.godfather1335]

Damn.. i wish i had this pc😢, ive never had a pc & now a days with crossplay console is just not it.

[@micahhanna3235]

Proprietary motherboards 😪 how are you about to have gen 4 pcie but 2666 mhz ram? Seems fried!

[@Omie-Wan-kenobi]

thought the guy on the right was seth rogan

[@Cokelover12323]

I have a special request for y’all so I have a budget of 300$ and I want it to be able to run vr or at least a lot of games what can I but to make that happen

[@FunkyTechy]

Using FSR 2 on a 6800xt?? Weird

[@RanFranklin]

Not weird at all if you think about a few things. If you are playing competitive games (first person shooter/online competitive games) that you do not want a lot of 1% lows FSR is a great option if you want to play 1440p/4k high/ultra settings. For 1080p totally not needed though, but for higher fps it helps create more stabilization. If you are playing storyline solo player games you can play the game fine at 60-100fps then FSR is not needed.

[@FunkyTechy]

@@RanFranklin you shouldn’t be playing at ultra 1440p/4K if you’re competitive that’s said by itself. The added latency plus it’s a 6800xt it’s more than competitive at native res. FSR is for op cpus with weak gpus not op gpus getting an extra bump in .1% lows

[@Denniz69]

In eu these PCs are sooo expensive. Prebuilds are much more expensive! And Alienware is wayyy too expensive u could get an highend build for the basic alienware...

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Most small stores in EU would build your PC for you for free, if you buy all the parts from them.

[@Denniz69]

@@aleksazunjic9672 That correct 🙂 But i wanted to say thats a god given present haha

[@OutsideDuhBox]

Yeah mw2 definitely seems to prefer AMD...and cpu over gpus

[@thorbe86]

this is the previous model....

[@LordLucifer95]

good case but that's it, looks like a office PC Inside lmao

[@LordLucifer95]

@@N_N23296 if you could add cpu cooler & extra fans and glass panel would be a good case but yeah alienware all they care about is $$$

[@johndudas5786]

How much is the new alien ware desktop going for

[@redbear77]

This is great I love Alienware. Thanks for the video

[@true_trellxdtrue7671]

Today my birthday 🎉

[@fazematthew14]

🎉 Congrats 👏

[@Hablift]

ryzen 5900 and that intel stock cooler ))

[@theodoregaus6237]

I am the 2.5 k viewer on this video

[@victoresarey4036]

I love my r10

[@Bert439]

Its K folks the R16 is leagues better!

[@DavidOlivarez08]

Ya R16 much much betterr

[@whilyd]

How bad?😭