We Took a Chinese DNA Test. Here’s What We Found.

In recent years, a whole bunch of Chinese DNA test companies have popped up promising more specific results than Western companies-down to which part of China your ancestors are from. But how accurate are they? We took a test to find out.
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Producers: Victoria Ho and Gavin Huang
Videographers: Ryan Putranto and Joel Roche
Editor and Mastering: Joel Roche
Special Thanks: Zen Soo and Yang Yang
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[@M4tchStickGirl]

Mine’s worse. I came out 100% pure Chinese from one specific village. I’m worried than I’m inbred at this point

[@sakurakou2009]

😂😂

[@verminwatch_out1283]

M4tchStickGirl LOL

[@Weeping-Angel]

Oh dear.

[@Jumpoable]

LOL i'm sure it's incorrect. Don't worry.

[@henryl3734]

lmaooooo

[@neige3661]

I am Cantonese. My result from WeGene is 70% southern Han Chinese, 10% northern Han Chinese, 20% southeast Asian (mainly Dai or Thai). We have a family tree book, so we know my family migrated from the Henan Province in the north to Canton 400 hundred years ago. My DNA results match my expectations based on the historical events of China.

[@baqikenny]

Yep, Dai is common for southerners, mine and my friends from Hainan(u can say we are generally mixed people of the two guangs and fujian) both have some Dai/tai and Miao/hmong as well, generally it's 60% - 80% southern Han on the island

[@xakatas9510]

400 hundred years ago 🤣🤣🤣

[@milotuxedo7176]

most southerns' tree books were made up.

[@dodo-eu6ox]

Maybe we are from a same village 300 years ago

[@anthonyyong8838]

@@dodo-eu6ox 😀

[@jujub4553]

Yeah I wasted my money on ancestry AND 23 and I also basically just got “Asian”

[@zadinal]

Well what did you expect them to say? If I took a test it would probably just tell me I'm 90% Western European.

[@INDIAN-zd5nf]

what do you expect them to tell u , u are something that u arent???

[@MagicalKid]

@@zadinal not really, they actually breakdown European ancestry more.

[@zadinal]

@@MagicalKid I suppose they might. Definitely some don't, the ones my family have done didn't break it down very much.

[@eugrus]

it's not wasted: just export your raw data and upload it to whatever database you trust

[@alexoolau]

To my eyes. The lady looks northern Chinese. The guy looks southern Chinese.

[@siraphopbunmeeprakob6193]

i do agree with u haha

[@YummYakitori]

The woman is Singaporean for sure.. her English accent is a dead giveaway. The woman does look more Northern Chinese than the guy though, have to agree

[@Peter-vv6ox]

Agree

[@heatherswanson1664]

Both look south Chinese

[@EllaAnAn]

@@YummYakitori "ang moh" also gave it away haha

[@pastarena]

I like how the ah ma was saying that as long as she was 90% Chinese that was fine by her

[@pastarena]

@Victoria Ho are ur parents Singaporean ?

[@pastarena]

@Victoria Ho ooo my mum is Singaporean too

[@ianyang4576]

Lol I'm Taiwanese and I call my grandma ah ma too

[@ivysn13]

@@ianyang4576 chinese diasporaaa and im of chinese descent with Chinese Teochew GrandParents who escaped to Vietnam with their cousins escaping to Singapore... i call my gma ah ma too! thought I was the only one for a long time

[@Ka1liNg]

Victoria Ho woohoo! Fellow singaporean!

[@timurau1425]

The Finnish connection isn't as weird as it might seem - I believe some of the ancestors of the Finnish people migrated from Siberia a long time ago, but where they went west maybe Victoria's ancestors went South into China so they share some of the same gene pool

[@madsam0320]

Someone from Finland has been sow wild oats long time ago..

[@Bellazme]

Finnish people have Sami DNA and the Sami people have MTDNA N. The mother N is shared by the Sami people, and Koreans. Most likely her mother is N. The Siberian DNA is rich and connects many nordic people to Asia.

[@AlgolZ]

Or proof of the Korean-Finnish Hyperwar!!!!1111!1

[@totifernandez9532]

Finns migrated from Hungary, if my history is right, and the Hungarians came from the Urals in Central Asia, There was a lot of trading and intermingling between ancient China and Europe through Central Asia, thru the Silk Road.

[@Min-Jeong2003]

@@totifernandez9532 finns are mix of vikins and Slavic,

[@BitcoinmeetupsOrg123]

Keep in mind that Finnish is actually an Asian language, in the sense that it originated at the border to Siberia. Sami tribes and similar people carried these Ugric languages west. So it is not entirely impossible that she is actually a little bit Finnish. Finnish people often also get 1% Asian DNA when they make these kinds of tests.

[@SCX1718U]

Finished....lol

[@tommytuomaala9087]

xiongnu, sychian, amazonian, hunn, mongolian, kurd. where do we draw the line? aint we all human afer all?

[@johnnyd6953]

It's not that she's Finnish, it's that the test is mixing up Siberian with Finnish. Because it uses a Euro-biased sample. It's Finns who are part Siberian, not vice versa.

[@Nothing_serious]

As far as I know, this tests can only go as far as 500 years or so it's definitely not because of the origin of Finns as their migration occurred a thousand years ago and they have mixed a lot of times with other European countries already there's so very little asian blood in them already. The only trace of them being asian is their language and some cultural aspect.

[@fullfigure7842]

Inuit?

[@Oniontrololol]

I took an DNA test and it says I’m human.

[@janicebrabec176]

That's reassuring 😂

[@kiritofight893]

congratulation！😂

[@alex-fs9yt]

It's really cool to have more detailed ancestry results. I'm of mixed descent (South Asian, Western European and Southern African) and I live in South Africa. I wish I could do something like this and get detailed results.

[@lisasingh5088]

Same here I wish I could do this also but it's so expensive 😭

[@tesmith47]

Do you mean you have San genetics or other African genetics?

[@amyx3843]

I’ll wait a few years more when database is bigger

[@mitsuriKoi]

My sentiments exactly

[@leafster1337]

@Varoon yes also it would be beneficial to contribute your dna data as well as stimulate the market

[@thetubesta]

Great video. Just as a suggestion, i feel your white subtitle text should have a darker outline as it can be harder to read on the light grey background for example

[@danielch6662]

So, your parents tells you that you're Hakka, and you go and pay for this genetic test and it says that you're southern Chinese ... I'd say the money is still wasted.

[@moccha8]

But then again, you don't really know what your ancestors have done or where they are REALLY from. It's really genetics

[@zhihaoling3324]

Hakka is a branch of southern Han Chinese.

[@zhangzhangjing134]

假的，南方土著

[@felizgaylord]

Hakka is like Jews(nowadays), it’s more about the cultural environment you live in rather than biology heritage

[@repmidwest]

I got my dna tested mostly for the health screenings. (It was a holiday package deal.) I’m Chicano, so the %60 indigenous Mexican and 27% Spanish result wasn’t a shocker. Though, the 13% coastal European countries were surprising. And now there’s even companies that will determine what your indigenous Mexican tribal roots. So I’m looking forward to getting those results soon.

[@ChristianJiang]

3:18 I like how this guy was more surprised to have some Korean ancestry rather than the super rare Zhuang/Dai one

[@JasonLeungMelb]

Well Zhuang is not rare in Guangxi, they are the main ethnic group in that province. But it's true that Dai is rare.

[@dearcoolz]

@@JasonLeungMelb Dai is Thai. The majority of them are in thailand

[@niamtxiv]

@@dearcoolz Dai are actually Shan in Myanmar and Tay/Tai in Vietnam.

[@adminsucks8806]

Ok that finnish dna? Its probably Genghis khan descendant. Cause mongols have finnish and eskimo dna.

[@johnnyd6953]

Yup. Finnish people (and Russians, Belarussians, Estonians) have Asian DNA. Not the other way around. Only exception is far west China, where there is actual European mixture (small amount). But Han Chinese have zero European ancestry.

[@alvin3832]

It's not even due to Genghis Khan. Finnish have Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) component in them. This ANE component is rooted in Siberia and has spread laterally West to Finland and East to northern part of East Asia as well as to America.

[@wildmanofhk]

Genghis Khan made tracing DNA worst as his horde of raiders raided, plundered, massacred half the global.

[@sakurakou2009]

how many genghis khan decendants on earth I wonder , seem like this guy dna survived and flourished every where lol 😂

[@xinyiquan666]

BS, its another way around, mongol ruled russia in the history,

[@Enrelie]

This is really cool! My parents took DNA tests, and mom came back 90% Chinese, with the other 10% being a mix of Mongolian, Siberian, Native American, Russian (her dad's side) and Vietnamese, Southeast Asian (her mom's side). However my dad came back almost 100% Chinese, even though he's from countless generations of a rural Tibetan autonomous region in Sichuan province. I was surprised he didn't come back any sort of Tibetan or Yi at all, until I remembered those are both technically Chinese ethnicities, even though they are not Han. Now I want to take one of these tests hehe.

[@nehcooahnait7827]

Taking one in Wegene I think they would really specify the ethnic categories. In the US, hehe, all Asians look the same.

[@rhemajumbo-nze154]

Pure blood

[@adminsucks8806]

Oh god you're a manchu

[@johnnyd6953]

Where is your mom from? Unless she is Uyghur or Mongol, it is almost certain her test results are false positive. All Chinese have zero European/Russian ancestry, until you start getting into western Gansu/Mongolia.

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

Johnny D Could also be Manchurian ancestry.

[@teachhangte8501]

Wow!! I am from NE India and we also got approx. : - 73% Chinese and Vietnamese. - 18% Nepali. - 2 to 5 % central Asia - 2% inuit - 1.5 % Finnish, and others

[@zeitgeistx5239]

Because NE India had migration from people that fled what is now SE Asia many many centuries ago.

[@ilamathysekar6177]

What test did u take

[@user-tp7ne1du1n]

It doesn't mean anything if they don't break down specific ethnic groups. Some companies group Tibetan with Chinese, which is ridiculous.

[@jacku8304]

NE region was illegally placed with Indian about 80 years ago. It was an independent nation until annexed by Britain then decided to give to India during independence in1947.

[@thonzphetchanah1255]

Basically, Zhoung​ and Dai are close to each other​ both cutural, language and properly dna and they are an ancester of Tai, Thai, Laos.

[@JasonLeungMelb]

Actually Zhuang are mainly in Guangxi, not Yunnan. And yeah, I believe Dai is the ancestor of nowadays Thais, they are a very small ethnic group living on the border of Yunnan.

[@bwyyc2886]

@@JasonLeungMelb Zhuang people can understand Thai language, so maybe they are the same people

[@alwaysright6358]

They need DNA samples from older generations that were indigenous to each region or better yet, samples from human remains dated centuries if not thousands of years ago.

[@niamtxiv]

@@JasonLeungMelb Zhuang and Bouyei people are the same people. Politic split them. Bouyei can be found in Guizhou. Same with Zhuang.

[@sgjoni]

I think the ancestry estimate is fun... a bit like a horoscope... though it can broaden your horizon. What has been much more interesting to me are the actual distant cousin connections. They have left me obsessively trying to figure them out.... like a murder mystery or something LOL 😂😁

[@globaltruth1556]

“I got very different results from a different company”. - still tests positive for southern Han Chinese.

[@nicoleraheem1195]

HAHAHAHA

[@appa609]

much less though. And trace amounts of lots of other things

[@baqikenny]

hahahaha test positive as if southern Han is very dangerous stuff

[@user-ty9jv7rs2p]

mine: wegene:74% north han(sample is from henan province, xinyang city),24%sourth han(fujian putian),2%korean 23mofang:56.9%north han(sample from beijing han),40.4%sourth han(guangdong),2.7%northeast part. gedmatch: mldp k23b: 46% east asian(han/korean),29.4%tungus-altaic(ulchi people),24% austronesian(maybe amei people from taiwan). eurogenes k36:50.5 east asian(japanese),9% indo-chinese(vietnamese),5%eastcentre asian(xibo/dawoer people),34%sourth chinese(maybe miaozu people). as a result: I am very close to people who live around east yangzi river near shanghai,or people in hubei province /sourth anhui province ,then north han from the yellow river ,then korean,then chinese from sourth fujian/guangdong/guangxi.

[@mattks1001]

Are you from Henan? That is where my wife is from, not too far from Xinyang. I'm thinking of having her dad take a Wegene test, which would you recommend?

[@itshry]

So whats the conclusion? Which company is the most accurate for Chinese descents

[@user-bo1cf1iz1c]

@@itshry 23mofang(23魔方)

[@user-ml2yl2jt3v]

There is a concept called 'the steppe',from Mongolia to the Arctic,from Manchuria to Finland,people in the big region mixed a lot with each other,so in fact, everyone is hybrid, including Chinese.

[@hunterthow6421]

The Eurasian Steppe

[@lyhthegreat]

exactly, there is no such thing as a pure han chinese person

[@Splexsychiick]

This makes perfect sense.

[@JasonLeungMelb]

Yeah, actually the Chinese have considerable amount of Turkic genes in them as waves of Turkic tribes migrated into China over the last 2000 years. Also the Chinese culture is heavily influenced by the Persians, even some Chinese may deny it. The Chinese sit on chairs and sleep on beds, which is very different from the rest of east Asia.

[@TK-my7jg]

​@@JasonLeungMelb no one deny that. China is always a civilazation , not a small single-nation country Don't using your single-nation mind to judge China, we are not a island

[@alexfrank5331]

3:30 so basically, these services are mis-representing the data they provide so that they can make more money.

[@garyguyton7373]

Including the Chinese companies.

[@themiddlekingdom9121]

I like Victoria asked her mom about her results of DNA tested at the end of this video, it was normally respond from her mom like any Chinese mom.

[@celinepolicarpio8718]

I just did the 23andme a couple of months ago. I have 95% Chinese and I was surprised that I have 4% from Filipino/Austronesian. My mom told me that her grandmother was from that area. Image if my Pilipino husband is my relative, that would be crazy.

[@didllynutz]

The chance of your husband being your relative is infinitesimally possible but being related by blood by a 0.01 digit isn't really going to make you actually related to him since you're DNA has been diluted just like his. However I'm just generalizing so don't take my word to heart and I'm not expert so don't take my word to heart lol

[@zeitgeistx5239]

Austronesian people are believed to come from SE China and Taiwan during the Neolithic era and spread through the SE Asia, Polynesia and Madagascar.

[@ChadGardenSinLA]

So what are the results of your spouses' DNA tests? I've been researching the best tests for FilipineX people and get the top 4 for my parents, sibling, and me.

[@Bellazme]

Thank you so much for letting us know about the Chinese companies..now I can do my test because I did not think the data base in U.S. was going to help me nor the one in UK.

[@kitarvin770]

Zhuang 壮 is an ethnic minority settling in most parts of Guangxi province of China. Dai 傣 is an ethnic minority living in Yunnam province. Both of these groups are genetically related cousins like Cantonese and Vietnamese.

[@laocongge]

Dai (Tai) is basically just the Thai people that didn't migrate south following the majority of Thai people.

[@xwah5016]

Cantonese is a language...

[@xwah5016]

@@user-xi2ru4bu9f wtf r u even talking abt?? As a fellow Chinese u have to word it correctly, u mean Vietnam is influenced from China. As a Chinese u should k that Cantonese is a language. Or r u not??

[@xwah5016]

@@user-xi2ru4bu9f my bad, I was talking to the commentator on this chat, and if that was tehir follow up, then it would’ve been a language topic. Moreover the way u wrote ur comment in English can make some Vietnamese angry as there’s lies that we said their Ao Dai is a copy of our Qipao. When all we had said was influenced.

[@MadBear1118]

I used 23andMe in 2018 and got back 93% Chinese, 3.8% Vietnamese, 2.1% Broadly East Asian, and then 0.01% Sardinian. With the latest update from 23andMe, they’ve bumped it up to 87.7% Chinese(guangdong and shandong), 7.1% Chinese Dai, 2.6% Vietnamese and 2.6% broadly Chinese and southeast Asian. I don’t really hold a lot of faith in these numbers, as it’s exactly like you said in the video. The breakdowns are all dependent on sample size, how the users self identify, and general markers. If anyone is curious, I would recommend purchasing it almost as a gag gift, but don’t take the results too seriously.

[@nehcooahnait7827]

Sample size only grows larger and larger.

[@YummYakitori]

Most people who do these DNA tests only care about the autosomal DNA part and totally ignore about the paternal and maternal haplogroup aspect of these tests. Who's to say that a random sequence in your genome denotes ancestry from a certain ethnicity? Autosomal DNA tests are subjective to the testing company's interpretation. More importantly your haplogroups mean that you share a common ancestry with people of the same haplogroup, and all this is objective since you can only belong to one Haplogroup and this data does not change from company to company. Certain ethnicities have higher frequencies of a certain haplogroup, for instance Chinese are known to have Y-DNA Haplogroup O2-M117 or O2-M134 which is shared with other Sino-Tibetan speaking populations (Chinese belongs to Sino-Tibetan language family). There's a reason why many researchers and historians take Y-DNA samples from human remains at prehistoric or historical archaeological sites since it provides clearer information regarding human migration routes and ancestry compared to mtDNA or autosomal DNA tests. Furthermore, while autosomal DNA tests are only able to trace back 400-500 years, haplogroups are able to help trace your ancestry back tens of thousands of years through your patrilineal ancestry.

[@misterpercy5187]

This is a rip-off. What does 93% Chinese and 3.8% Vietnamese mean? There are 54 ethnic groups of people who are "Chinese" and about the same number of ethnic groups who are "Vietnamese". Looking at a typical person in China, Vietnam, Thailand, Korea, Japan... and I can't tell much different from another person in China, Korea, Thailand, or Japan etc.... After thousands of years of migration and mixing throughout East Asia, it is no surprised that all East Asians are genetically a mixture of various ancient groups of people who no longer exist genetically pure. One cannot look at an East-Asian person (Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai, Japanese, and Korean, etc... and be certain of where this person comes from.

[@joy1ess]

definitely. There was a video of identical twins who sent out their DNAs to a same company and got different results.

[@gregorypetty6887]

@@misterpercy5187 You forgot to mention Filipinos. I have Filipino relatives and friends who look Japanese, and no, they are not of the modern day Japanese half Filipino (Japinoy) people. As you said, there was a lot of intermixing going on in the past.

[@bewater1997]

Did my DNA with 23andme 2-3 year ago, back then I was 90% Chinese, 4% Mongol, 4%Manchu/Korean, and misc. I uploaded my dna to Wegene, it said I was 60% southern Han, 30% mongol, 5% japanese, misc., recently I log back into 23andme. I'm now 96% Chinese, 2% Manchu/Korea, and misc.

[@existencewarrior2920]

I’m 50% Hmong, 25% Chinese, 5% Russia, 5% white, 2% Indian, 3% Arabian, 2% Nepal, 3%French, 2% Black, 2% Japanese, 1% Canadian.

[@gunjchowwiwat8357]

Which company did you test please ?

[@x0key0x]

Great video! Especially loved the ending hahaha

[@jerimow8400]

Interesting! Thank you for sharing!

[@aleksitanninen]

I knew it’s gonna be a complete waste of money if I did any of the US-based home DNA tests :) but my wife found her biological mom for 30 years, she’s also “angmoh” so it worked like a fairy tale for her. I am curious about the Chinese-based tests and would wait for larger database to get built before jumping in. This is fun, it’s all it should be, for fun :) Thanks for this video.

[@aleksitanninen]

@poke ghee Malaysian

[@user-tp7ne1du1n]

But Wegene isn't available outside of China so your only option is to spend that money on a US-based kit then spend $25 to import to Wegene

[@dragonbreath8202]

Great video with some good points to consider when taking the DNA tests. My brother, sister, and I took the AncestryDNA test and all of us were extremely unsatisfied with how they lumped us all into a non-specific group. I felt like they didn’t care enough to build their databases with bigger samples of Asians from various countries (almost like saying that all of us Asians look alike), yet they can distinguish between English, Scottish, Irish. Go figure. They should give us back our money for the misrepresentation of their DNA tests.

[@shinyuta]

did you even watch the video... if you did you would know why that is. Don't make it a racism problem... they just don't have the data to specify, since DNA testing is way more popular in the west.

[@dorisgin5294]

@@shinyuta yes I watched the video. You misunderstood what I was saying - the company doesn’t care enough to get a bigger sample of Asians because their marketing continue to give the impression that Asians would get just as much detail as Whites and Blacks.

[@jasonmai4771]

Not because of that, whether Is Dna privacy or politically issue for countries database, if u are any type of asian, u should go back to ur ancestor's country to get tested for accurate result. Western people have accurate result in the western countries. Same logic.......

[@skyworm8006]

@@dorisgin5294 No because the company is American and primarily in English, most people contributing to it are going to be European/European-descended. It would be very weird if they weren't. I don't know why you're offended by something that is no one's fault. There is absolutely no way they could satisfy you here, so don't act like it. If I were to use a Chinese company as someone who isn't Chinese, I wouldn't complain about the simple results. And as more Asian people use other companies with more fitting databases, their database will be even worse. Also, I think you can upload your results to other databases anyway. But companies obviously can't use the databases of other companies and organisations directly.

[@skiihigh12real]

Exactly .

[@rutabagasteu]

Ancestry DNA tests also lack Native American accuracy. They keep changing the percentages of my European ancestry. Basically western Europe and British Isles. But which country keeps changing from year to year when they update.

[@LunaticReason]

How long does it take when you upload the raw data from 23andme to Wegene?

[@andylee3911]

Great video! I was minutes away from ordering a test kit in Australia. Now I won't bother until there are many, many millions of Chinese samples. You just saved me $139 :-)

[@birdtj82]

My family did did 23 n me . got sooo accurate with where I came from. The province my mom side the 2-3 , the 2 province dad side (there 32 provinces ) it’s so utterly accurate I was SHOCKED ! Cuz my mom n dad side both keep family tree ! Both 2 provinces were matched up ! Do it

[@angiemejiarodriguez7824]

23 and me is trash. If you’re Asian, steer away from it.

[@johnweir3168]

A few years ago I got my DNA test results. It too said I was half a percent Finnish and half a percent central Asian. I figured that was noise. Recently the company updated the results. The Finns and the Indians are now gone. But, suddenly, I am 25% Scandinavian.

[@justme8108]

Wow.

[@moniquealicia9508]

Finland is in scandinavia

[@johnweir3168]

@@moniquealicia9508 Not according to the map FamilyTreeDNA uses. In any case, the revision went from

[@moniquealicia9508]

@@johnweir3168 ok

[@xakatas9510]

hahahh politic🤣

[@kasnarfburns210]

The main issue is that these tests ASSUME reference groups who basically haven't migrated from some ancestral territory for myriad -- maybe thousands - of years. The question then becomes how historically accurate is that assumption. For some areas of that world that might be more true than for others.

[@codyshi4743]

Where is the link to take the DNA test? Can overseas Chinese take this test too?

[@sinaida3999]

Hi! I'm Finn and i wouldn't actually think it's weird if you carry some Finnish ancestral. Based on researches here in Finland:" In the European comparison, we differ significantly from the rest of the population precisely because of the Asian genetic heritage. - The big difference is that we have 5-10% of the Asian genome in our genomes and that is how we differ from the rest of Europe. The same can be seen in northern Russians and, to a lesser extent, Estonians". This is research confirmed by Yle couple of years ago. Some of us might carry little bit "Asiatic" looks. Finns are ofc also mixed with European dna, but there is definitely DNA from east as well.

[@johnnyd6953]

The problem is they are completely reversing the origin. Spaniards don't have Mexican DNA. Mexicans do have Spanish though. There just isn't any European DNA in China--if there were, it'd be coming up as English or something like that, not Finnish. There is Siberian DNA in China though, and this is probably where the so-called "Finnish" is coming from.

[@user-kr6nx5ch3q]

Finns are 70% N, Han Chinese are 90% O, and their ancestors came to Asia together

[@blackcoffeebeans6100]

I am a Finn lived in other countries and nobody asked If I came from Asia. Always everybody thought I am german, scandinavian or from netherland. The same with other finns.

[@blackcoffeebeans6100]

@@user-kr6nx5ch3q Now it is 70%. The others say 60%. Watch the video " Which country has the most blondies?" The answer is Finland. Finland has got 80% ppl with blue eyes, blond hair, white complexion and they are tall.

[@nylandcase3239]

I’m a geneticist and yes they’re right about the reference-sensitive results. What these companies started with is called the principle component analysis which anchors your ancestry on several XY axis maps and returns the similarity between you and their data.

[@annquach6613]

I've been told by family friends that they've visited my paternal family shrine in guangxi province. I would love to know more of my maternal side. It also is from guangxi.

[@dragonfly1414]

Though I am 100% Chinese till 2015 I visited my oldest aunt in Cambodia told me my great grandma was Khmer my great grandpa was Chinese, my grandpa 1/2 Chinese 1/2 Khmer went to china to married my grandma so my mom a 1/4 Khmer and 75% Chinese my mom married my father he from china that made me 87.5 Chinese and 12.5% Khmer now my sons 1/2 white mix with French, German and Scottish and 6.25 Khmer and 43.75 Chinese, I don't know what my future grandchildren going to be "shit" now I am worry, haha.

[@jeanniefromtahini5197]

These tests are not based on what people "think" they are, they are based on haplogroups and the results reflect where in the world the haplogroups are most highly concentrated. As more people take the tests and create a wider pool of data these things can get more and more specific so it will just take time to get more specific and accurate results.

[@cyrano24100]

What kind of test can we order online for more Chinese/Asian DNA test around Europe?

[@ricebucket5041]

I want to try this soo bad, my uncles and aunties say my great great grandfather is pure spanish/Peninsulare and he owned most of the lands in our town. He was so rich that he didn't bother to study at all, got conned by a bunch of people mostly his friends into giving them pieces of his land because he didn't know how to read or write at all.

[@stanleyho8009]

I’m also Hakka and that is a very complicated thing as our people have traveled a lot and even some Hakka people were of royal blood with a different surname and fled and changed their surname. Because Hakka traveled all over south China it’s hard to tell where ‘you’ come from because in the end Hakka people had many dynasties where they couldn’t stay in one place. I know my ancestors pretty well because we have had a family book but I’m also curious what a DNA test would say.

[@TheLauraFacusse]

Yes, as far as I know the Hakka migrated from the north to the south. They were persecuted so it’s hard to pinpoint.

[@user-tp7ne1du1n]

I'm pretty sure they will just group Hakka with Han Chinese

[@bioinformaticsonline5988]

First, you should differentiate between genealogical ancestors and genetic ancestors. Some of your ancestors might not pass their genetic materials to you at all, even when you are just a few generations apart (the only exception is Y chromosome and mtDNA). So to detect Northern ancestry of Hakka people you can not do it with a few samples. You've got to screen the whole population and see if there is a pattern; because if Hakka marry within their community the alleles will reach an equilibrium that reflects the true picture of their genetic makeup. Second, people moved a lot in the past and they still do today. So no population is pure. It is always a gradient and people in the border areas will likely get genetics from both sides. When you get some Korean genetics, it means you got some Northern Chinese genetics that is mostly shared with Korean, and your Northern ancestors were likely from Shandong area. When you get some Vietnamese genetics, it is because Vietnamese and Southern Han share a certain amount of ancestry, and your Southern ancestors were likely from Guangdong and Guangxi.

[@Iflie]

Mine was actually pretty accurate, I know this because I'm very mixed and live in the Netherlands. I have dutch heritage but that specific province my great grandfather came from shows up in tests as Brittish because they populated that country long ago. So if you are part Frisian you can show up as your DNA being from England. So the DNA test was able to separate my dutch DNA from all the other dutch samples and picked out I had Frisian in me, in a roundabout way. Also it could trace my south american heritage from my father's side, my african side and the Indonesian side though the asian parts are more vague. So the samples they are working with are not just what people send in and claim, it's from people actually gathering local samples. Like from the amazone indians, which is how they could tell I had a small part from there. I expect China is complicated because there was so much travel while still being one country, they can't get a pure sample, but that isn't the case for all countries. I think my 2% finish is actually finnish, as part of the country used to have a Viking king and was just a short boatride away from Finland. I don't doubt travelers could have brought some of their DNA to China too, after all there was trade and there were sailors and those men are bound to do what lonely travelers do, visit a redlight district. At a time when birthcontrol wasn't a thing. Could have been so many generations ago it's invisible.

[@realmofthesenses]

Looks as if we have similar diverse backgrounds. I am still a bit puzzled by my results with relatively high percentage of "British" in the results. I cannot find this, or possibly Friese roots (as you point out), back in the family history. Perhaps there is some explaination to it that I did not discover yet. And, apparently my Chinese (great) grandfather was not "pure" but mixed East Asian. I was happy to learn that the oral family history was correct in telling about our having native, SouthAmerican ancestry too. Although the "purest African" in our family is only 3 generations back, there is not as much African left in my DNA as I expected, although it is regionally and ethnically very specific. My parent's 16% Jewish is totally gone in my DNA, but it may have transformed to the "Middle Eastern" % in me.

[@Iflie]

@@realmofthesenses Try googling "Frisian dna in england" and you'll find that certain DNA markers are simply identical and so lead test result to show brittish instead of the more accurate Frisian. But as DNA tests also show, they can be quite different from what you'd find in any official records. As you can both not inherit certain part of their DNA or the official parents were not in fact those. And then you have people who had to hide their heritage or were simply not sure.

[@koreanpeninsula1751]

Korean DNA marker is 02b. In which many Manchurians, Mongolians, Japanese, Asian Turkish, Koreans have. Not surprising at all. 02b is a Korean DNA marker.

[@yo2trader539]

If I understand correctly, the classification was updated. There seems to be increasingly growing sub-groups within subgroups these days with advances in DNA studies. Within the Halpogroup O for Y-Chromosome (paternal lineage), Haplo O1b1 is widely observed through out southeast Asia; while a related O1b2 is observed in countries such as Japan and South Korea. (Studies indicate about 20-30% admixture in samples from modern people.) This genetic lineage is understood as a result of sporadic migration from the Yangtze river basin, starting from around 3,000 years ago. O1b1 and O1b2 likely diverged sometime over 6,000-8,000 years ago.

[@etlay5684]

Growing up I've been asked many times whether I am a mixed race due to my fair skin, curly hair and big eyes, so I had my DNA test through Ancestry and the result > I am 100% East Asian. I am 100% Hakka (both my maternal and paternal grandparents were Hakka) and our ancestors were originated from Henan to Guangdong.

[@neixiangzhe4884]

im hakka and my ancestors from henan too!!

[@psionicpowers132]

Read about the San People of Africa, they are the original Asians..

[@user-tp7ne1du1n]

Hakka is actually a culture not an ethnic group. Hakka are one of those special cases of Han Chinese that mixed with other ethnic groups, but it's too complicated so they are grouped with Han Chinese instead of being recognized as a separate/official ethnic group in China. The other case is the Chuanqing people (穿青人) 😅

[@xnz6525]

I can not agree with you , Hakka is ether a culture and an ethnic group. they are pure Han as what they claimed.

[@CoffeeChai]

I took the test just to find out that- "This is ten percent luck Twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure Fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name"

[@kevinx1893]

Comment of the day ladies and gentlemen

[@VWYL900802]

other than if you are an orphan or something in a foreign land, or your parents are already so americanized, you didn't learn chinese from them, you can ask your parents where your hometown is and ask for your citang (the alternative is going to your local benevolent society in Chinatown and asking for people about your situation). Then, go to that particular hometown, and ask for a clan book from one of your relatives. There you can find the history of the citang dating back all the way to at least 200 years if not more. If you're HK, it's even easier, as in the 90s there are a lot of people who were overseas and wanting to look for their roots, so you can ask around there and there's like a tablet place there that specializes in people who went overseas in late Qing and never came back. There's also people in HK that can immediately tell you where to look for records of people and places too, in universities and museums. As long as you know some info about your situation, you can ask and get info.

[@mattks1001]

I recently did a DNA test though Ancestry, and though I am a Westerner. They do divided East Asia into multiple groups now and as they mention in the video, as time goes on, and the sample size gets larger, they will be able to break down those groups farther. China currently has basically 5 divisions right now (not including Dai, which is also on there.) Most of those sub groups are for the immigrants groups that came to the US. So Guangdong, Fujian, Shanghai, etc. Northern China is lumped together with Korea, but confirmed Korean is separate. My wife is 52% East Chinese, but they couldn't pinpoint the exact region (they did say which sub-regions she is not from), and 48% "very like Korean", but possibly Northern China. But one of my wifes grandmothers we believe may have come from Korea via Japanese occupation of Shanghai.

[@user-tp7ne1du1n]

That's because northeast asia has a complicated history of mixing too, like with the Khitans, Jurchens, Siberians, Koreans, Mongols. For example, Balhae is located on the Korean Peninsula but is a multi-ethnic kingdom.

[@tomgreene7942]

Each person has 46 DNA + MDNA, so after 6 generations, there are 64 ancestors but only 47 will show up in your DNA. Another generation back there are 128 ancestors but only 47 will show up. So you could have a family heritage that is much wider than your DNA tells. Best to have your parents tested before they pass away, and perhaps one of them is also part Finnished!

[@k.e.1760]

So getting your parents tested is the only way to find the missing ancestors?

[@user-tp7ne1du1n]

​@@k.e.1760 Yes. I saw this video where an indian girl claims she's part European, but when tested, her mom actually has more % of those genes, while she barely inherited any.

[@auir66li57]

i am a northern chinese, all of my family are from north side of yellow river for at least past 1000 years. both me, my dad, and my mom did DNA test in Wegene. the offical result from Wegene is Im 83% northern chinese, 14% naxi, 1% tongus, and 1% japen. My dad is 98% northern Chinese with 1% tongus. My mom is 40% Mongolian, 30% northern chinese, 20% southern chinese, and a few naxi, korean, and jepan. But in the third party test that in the Wegene app, i am about 70% east asian, 25% siberian, and a little west asian, european, and africa. I think the app is try to convert your mongolian and some other north asian nomadic gene into northern chinese for politic reason. North Asian normadic have huge impact for today's northern chinese, today's north china is like a small mongol, but the government can not say it to people because its not "politic correct", and they try to tell us that we are all pure chinese, but in fact that northern chinese is a mix of a lot of race.

[@psionicpowers132]

So u are not Indegenous, but a hybrid at best😂

[@OkOk-qd2nc]

Then try My haritage or 23andme which is American company.

[@jjaiyan]

If you know about Chinese history, you would know that most of Northern China today wasn’t very “China” during the ancient times. It was mostly occupied by Mongolians, especially the areas outside the Great Wall of China. The Great Wall of China was to basically to block them. Even today, in modern Mainland China, a huge chunk of Northern China is Inner Mongolia, which is where most Mongolian Chinese are, but they’re also very spread out in the Northern parts of China. And besides Inner Mongolia, there’s also a place called Yanbian, or Yanbian Korean Autonomous Prefecture, which is basically where a lot of Korean Chinese are located. For a matter of fact, almost anywhere Northeastern, especially Jilin, you’ll find a huge population of Koreans, South and North. There’s also a Russian Chinese ethic group around the Northern part of China, which I sadly don’t know much about, and they’re a pretty small ethnic group. IDK if you really wanted or even care about all this, but yea, the more you know 😂👍🏻

[@auir66li57]

@@jjaiyan thx for infor me bro，and yea there are a lot korean in northeast China，Im currently in northwest China，gansu，people in here are pretty western

[@lx6461]

​@@jjaiyan in fact ，there is almost no difference between Northern Han Chinese and ancient Han Chinese ( Based on DNA testing of ancient ruins），and Southern Han Chinese = Northern Han Chinese migrated to south and married with local women

[@Marvee78]

My family is from eastern India and we know from family history that we also have some heritage from central asia as well going back to the 1600s. My sister did a 23&me test a few years ago and she got of course mostly north eastern indian, some central asian like we assumed, a trace amount of middle eastern but also siberian like the yakuts, and native american and surprisingly of all finnish. We figured if you have any heritage from the central asian steppes you are gonna be a mix of all sorts of people at different point in human history cause it has been a crossroads for tens of thousands of years for different human migrations and her dna just reflected that fact.

[@smonline631]

not really, my grandfather is 100 % Kazakh, and 23and me says he is 60percrnt Mongol and 40percdnt Eastern European..

[@deth3021]

Gotta appreciate all these people giving the dna info of them and their family members to large congomerates to do with as they want. This is very similar to Facebook, you aren't the customer, you are the product.

[@H3LLOxKiMCHi]

I tried to do a DNA test a couple years ago, but for some reason both of my tries failed to get any results at all? :(

[@Ange-ns5be]

Interesting which company did you use?

[@soosianter6972]

Lol,most probably you belong to some aliens species from outer space

[@H3LLOxKiMCHi]

@@Ange-ns5be I tried 23andMe

[@H3LLOxKiMCHi]

@Victoria Ho Yess!!! 23andMe! I think after 2 failed attempts, they ban you from trying again 😂

[@user-yv1yp5dp4l]

Did any of you get your money back?

[@CaptchaNeon]

“It’s based on someone saying they’re Korean” that’s not how it works. I don’t know what type of test you took but any test I took does not ask me to identify who I am or what ethnicities I believe I am.

[@nicoleraheem1195]

Right.

[@dominiquehudson8077]

He explained it funky, but technically he is correct. The information is crowdsourced from remote regions and tribal groups and combined with public projects like the Human Genome project. He's not wrong just explained it poorly.

[@Lawliet734]

It would be horrifying for a Chinese to find out he is even 1% Japanese!

[@yorilamaz]

More like: all the Japanese ppl’s results comes back 90% Chinese 🤣

[@ivysn13]

how did you guys get it to ship to the USA! I am struggling on the website they keep making me choose locations in China even tho I put USA

[@moreevents4335]

For Wegene and 23moFong, both cater to China market and ships only to china, as i know. For WeGene cause i asked the custoemr service.

[@tracyma9027]

I got 20 percent West Eurasian gene and 80 percent East Asian,and the composition of my West Eurasian gene is quite complicated,as for my East Asian gene is much simpler,which is composited by Central Chinese and Japanese/Korean gene. I am ethnic minority in China which called Hui.

[@YummYakitori]

Most people who do these DNA tests only care about the autosomal DNA part and totally ignore about the paternal and maternal haplogroup aspect of these tests. Who's to say that a random sequence in your genome denotes ancestry from a certain ethnicity? Autosomal DNA tests are subjective to the testing company's interpretation. More importantly your haplogroups mean that you share a common ancestry with people of the same haplogroup, and all this is objective since you can only belong to one Haplogroup and this data does not change from company to company. Certain ethnicities have higher frequencies of a certain haplogroup, for instance Chinese are known to have Y-DNA Haplogroup O2-M117 or O2-M134 which is shared with other Sino-Tibetan speaking populations (Chinese belongs to Sino-Tibetan language family). There's a reason why many researchers and historians take Y-DNA samples from human remains at prehistoric or historical archaeological sites since it provides clearer information regarding human migration routes and ancestry compared to mtDNA or autosomal DNA tests. Furthermore, while autosomal DNA tests are only able to trace back 400-500 years, haplogroups are able to help trace your ancestry back tens of thousands of years through your patrilineal ancestry.

[@magno5157]

Okay... so who's selling haplogroup DNA ancestry test services?

[@nemaproblema6879]

@@magno5157 23andme does it. Btw do not get these chinese tests, C*ina has a interest in pushing the Han chinese identity lately by genocide

[@magno5157]

@@nemaproblema6879 you're brainwashed mate

[@steph1829]

@@magno5157 hahaha let me get my ouija board real quick

[@clarissagafoor5222]

My Hong Kong Eurasian son did one of these dna tests and got, on the Asian side, mostly Yi a bit of Han and some South East Asian, from the east coast of India! That last wasn't a surprise but the Yi thingy was!

[@user-rx7hx6wd8m]

Does this mean you should take it again years later when the data base has more samples to check against

[@aholtewakan]

My DNA test came back with West, Eastern and South Asian, Native American, Middle Eastern, Irebian peninsula, Northern European, Germanic Europe, French/Basque, Irish/Scottish, Jewish, Sweden, Norway, Finnish, Russian, Greek/Italian and North Africain. Then completely changed after an ancestry update. I am going to try 23andMe next time.

[@LC_JSE]

I took 23andme and I also got that I was 1% Finnish. I wonder if our two races both had a similar mutation somewhere coincidentally.

[@sori4086]

After watching many video about dna test, many people say that the finnish dna in asian people is actually came from siberian dna. They say that along time ago, some Siberian came to finnish area and some came to asia, even to south east asia. So thats why, some asian has finnish dna. Maybe the data is still not big enough to analyze thoroughly into the details area/ethnicity.

[@johnnyd6953]

Just as the commenter above me stated, Finns (and other Northeast Europeans) have ancestry from Siberia. media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1186%2Fs13059-018-1522-1/MediaObjects/13059_2018_1522_Fig1_HTML.png?as=webp These same Siberians also migrated a little bit into China, and the test mixes them up due to improper sampling. The Uralic languages originated in Siberia, and the male haplogroup N (which transmitted alongside them) comes from Siberia as well. Haplogroup N is actually part of a broader marker, haplogroup NO, which originates from China.

[@diamondsarenotforever8542]

This company is putting finnish and nigerian on everything.

[@diamondsarenotforever8542]

A lot of Europian countries have got that as well. Even More than 1%.

[@thihal123]

Sounds like an issue is what are the reference points used by these companies. The problem of finding where your ancestors are from geographically are: 1. Ancestors move; they aren’t static 2. Which ancestral period?

[@tardwrangler]

It's difficult to know which of these companies have the biggest most accurate database

[@milotuxedo7176]

Southern Han standard is from Canton or Fujian, where the people there are actually more close to ancient natives like baiyue than they are to ancients Hans, according to detailed dna, I think they have less than 25% han. Northern Han also mixed with nomads, but that's far less impactful than southerners and china haters claim. C2b of mongol is rare in whole China. Northern han is at least 75% ancient han.

[@LoverGetamped]

Unfortunately, northern han genes are dying out in China , either by mixing with southerner or not having any children. The future of China lies fully in the hand of Southerners, which currently makes up 58% of Mainland China population.

[@maggiejetson7904]

Well if Elizabeth Warrens is Native American then I bet our hosts here can be Finnish too...

[@DarkHonour]

I tried GeneLife and it gave me 42% Southern Han, 32% Northern Han, 24% Vietnamese, 2% unknown. The Vietnamese portion seems to be relatively not clear as it is unclear Southeast Asian genetic data so it might be updated or changed along the way.

[@Gryfder]

I wonder if they test for Turkic, Mongolic or Tungusic heritages?

[@vmanglona72]

Hi there. I'm a Pacific Islander (Chamorro with a mixture of European ancestry) but when I took my DNA from Crigenetics, I came up with quite a few Chinese ancestries. Dai and Southern and Northan Hans we're among them. So, I'm wondering what's the difference between the two Hans? Are they genetically different?

[@cypher1178]

Northern and Southern Han difference is on the mother side, the father side is the same. Type 'Origin of Han Chinese' and search for the video.

[@irischen8645]

This is my Ancestry DNA: Southern Chinese 80% Vietnamese 13%, and 7% Dai.

[@mikewhocheeseharry5292]

I’ve never heard of Dai.

[@chikamazri5817]

@@mikewhocheeseharry5292 you can Google it. They are related to Thai peoples

[@lyhthegreat]

@@mikewhocheeseharry5292 it's a small tribe of people living in china i think

[@jerryhsu5032]

@@mikewhocheeseharry5292 Dai people傣族 minority group of China , mostly live in Yunnan province!多群居于云南省

[@jeffreysetapak]

Zhuang is mostly Guangxi province, not Yunnan province.

[@jxmai7687]

Guangxi - Zhuang, Yunnan - Miao

[@niamtxiv]

There are many Zhuang in Yunnan too. I am Miao.

[@silverlining6824]

In order to analyze the chemical composition of a compound, there has to be (1) a Periodic Table, and (2) a method for extracting the elements from it. For genetic origin determination, there needs to be a temporal flow of genetic characterization of geographic regions of the world. A static one might have been possible 400 years ago, before the Portuguese started the “globalization” of genes to Brazil, Goa, and Macau. Yet the similarity between the Finnish grammar to that from Korea pushes possible genetic mixing between the East and the West several hundred years back. Then, too, the spread of Islam from the Mediterranean to the islands in South East Asia had to have stirred the gene pool in the Europe-Asia land mass. How far back shall we trace the temporal geography of genes - to the descendants of Lucy from central Africa?

[@Nanokillaz]

To clarify, there are also Korean ethnic minorities in China so perhaps that's why you have Korean DNA rather than the country Korea

[@user-di2on5gl2d]

Took ancenstry test and was surprised to find I'm 96% Chinese/Vietnamese and 4% Filipino/Indonesian. I thought I was 100% Chinese!

[@jasonmai4771]

Are you american born Chinese? Or immigrant when u were little? No one think they are 100 percent Chinese in China..... At least 90 percent would not think that.... Chinese has mixed many ethnincity in China for a few thousand yrs

[@NotLikeWhatYouThink]

If lower than 10% means ancient dna your great22 parent from southeast asia.Filipino and indonesia dna 60 000k-70k after african 80 000-100k years..so dna research in my country its true😅chinese 30-40 000k years among the youngest..try upload in gedmatch.

[@johnsamu]

It's based upon what people SAY they are? It's like a LION saying he's a PUPPY. It could end up bad for you when you want to cuddle the puppies 😉😁

[@AZNwill81]

I did my test with Ancestry DNA and got 89% Southern Chinese and 11% Dai. I saw someone say Dai is rare but it seems a lot of people have it. I am very curious though because a lot of people say I look half European (even I think I have western features especially facial structure and nose) but I basically came out pure Chinese

[@cypher1178]

If you are Asian, it's better to use China's databases for a more accurate figure.

[@ohreallyandthen189]

Dai is rare because they are minority in China. But many Thai have Dai % in them so it's not rare for Thai.

[@user-tp7ne1du1n]

Dai isn't rare if you're southern chinese or southeast asian

[@Brimp555]

Europe has Slavs, Germanic, Celts, Hungarians, Italic, Finns, Turks, Jews, Greek, and Iberian along with small pockets of pre-Indo Europeans. China does have 'minorities', but they make up a small percent of the Chinese people. Europeans identify with the specific groups of their ancestors, but the Chinese mostly don't.

[@claudiaxoxoxo]

I did the chinese test Wegene, initially i was afraid do it because im not chinese but it came out well, detected im 75% native american and 25% french...i think if i do it in the USA it would have had much more details, but so far im glad...i was afraid it would detect chinese instead of native american which would be incorrect but it even tell me what native american haplogroup im from

[@kezzatries]

I was born, as we're my ancestors, on earth. We as a family type have mostly been travelers. I do not care about my ethnicity. I live my life ethically, together with a set of common morals, look out for your fellow man, do not steal or murder, treat others as you wish to be treated. Etc. It is not where you come from, it is how you live and the morals you teach your children and pass on to your fellow man/woman

[@Sybille453]

I'm Korean, but also Finnish. The Korean history or Hwanguk history is so interesting, since the Finnish part means we are Æsirs Odin Thor ect. And probably have neanderthal DNA as well.

[@moreevents4335]

Hi , i did test in 2019 from CircleDNA, it's from China as well. Since they do ship overseas to SEA i tested for it. The parts about exercise, health, food, i could not verify as i do not know, it helps that i get such info. But for Personality Traits, it some aspects i can verify since i do know myself. I can say they got somethings right considering they just used my saliva. So, what did they got right ? They know that my personality is more Reserved, rather than extroverted. They also know i have tendency to challenge, rather than conform, which is True. Up to this point its onjective. And then there are some aspects is subjective.It says i have good tolerance for stress, i think its true, but this can be subjective to our own perceptions. It also says i am musically inclined, well im not sure what this means, but i definitely find it hard to learn musical instruments. Btw Circle DNA is way too expensive. They divide detailed Health & Risk as separate product, which u have to pay additional premium price. For the info your getting its way too expensive, and not that detailed. I just did normal DNA ancestry testing package. Expensive. Not recommended.

[@emppulina]

Finnish in there maybe, because Finns are said to have about 25 % of Eastern genetics. One of the main father-lines originates from mongolia, but I think eastern most likely means siberian. We have in our language family samojeds, who don't look western at all. For Europeans they say we have pretty strange genetics.

[@johnnyd6953]

Are you Finnish? Finnish are actually less than this, 10% Eastern genetics. But Sami are much more, 25% or greater as you said. Yes, the main father line (Haplogroup N) originates in Eastern Siberia. It is actually part of Haplogroup NO, which originates even further back in China.

[@johnnyd6953]

There is actually some arguably politically incorrect history here, for those who descend from Indo-Europeans. IEs themselves were foreigners to Europe, also coming in from the east (but genetically very different from Uralics). After they invaded Europe, some also invaded Iran and North India. The interesting part, is that all these Indo-European groups, used the name "arya" to refer to themselves. Like the word "Aristocracy" in Greek: rule by "Arya". "Iran" translates to "land of Arya" Anyway, if you go into Google translate and select Finnish/Estonian, their word for "slave" is "orja" and "ori". Or in other words, "arya". Meaning that ancient Finns were practicing enslavement of Aryans. Just a funny tidbit :)

[@diamondsarenotforever8542]

25% now. If that much eastern genetics in finns ( I never met any Finn that much with eastern genetics) They should look different. Finland has percentually most blond hair blue eyes and white complexion in The world. Also their average height is high. So quite opposite to asian ppl.

[@emppulina]

@@diamondsarenotforever8542 I was corrected by a commenter, and I did not dispute that it maybe closer to 10 %. I am just interested not an expert. I don’t want to go to details because it would make this comment even longer, but significant part of Finnish population (not the Sami) is not genetically considered closely related to other Europeans, not even our neighbors. My 25% was based on some older ideas among geneticist and I can afford to say it was probably outdated. Just 1 years ago at least one of these genetic genealogy companies classified Greenlanders (Innuits) as largely Finns, not because they are, but because other populations with Siberian ancestry have been unfortunately much less studied than Finns, it seems. That was one of the reasons I originally made that comment, because I suspected the similar reasons behind her results. Your idea of looks being important is kind of old fashioned. It would signify, if our connection to east would be more recent, but not if it’s over ten thousand years ago. Eurasian modern looks are currently considered quite recent development. Blue eyes are only 6000-10000-year-old mutation, and our skin and hair color are likely to be even more recent (hunters and gatherers did not need light skin because of their diet, only farmers did). Siberian eyelid-shape is older, most likely some 35 000 years old, but as far as I understand its spread in certain areas is later as the spread in both Eastern Asia and North America is considered separate events. Both most likely due to cultural beauty standards like spread of blue eyes and light hair in the west.

[@emppulina]

Height is a bad example because there are populations among Asians that are signifyingly taller than average. Height varies a lot even among relatively closely related people. . People in colder climates seem to be generally larger than in warmer. Like Northern European Indo-Europeans in comparison to their northern Indian (genetical) "cousins".

[@lyhthegreat]

2:19 i believe it was right before the end of the ming dynasty in the 1600s that a whole bunch of hakkas migrated down south due to the incoming manchu invaders coming from the north.

[@JoeCross98]

Are you sure the companies do not have "reference DNA" from archeological testing? Most DNA testing companies do not rely on self reporting to establish a reference. Rather, they use ancient DNA from various sources. Your comments may be a bit misleading to the average viewer.

[@seriousnz]

I'm 50% England Scotland and Ireland, 38% various European, 10% Southern Chinese and 2% Vietnam or Dai. This, more or less, confirms what I know of family history.

[@ivanwan8660]

You just never know! My grand Uncle sent his 2 daughters back to China from a white woman so they marry Chinese men. There is a book out from Jamaica to Harlem to China. Lots of mixtures sent back to China from Jamaica.

[@gym55rat]

My family is (Hakka) Chinese Jamaican, until 1950's Chinese parents would send children who were born in Jamaican . Then they would travel back to China for school for 5 or 6 years and then return to Jamaica.

[@christinesong4243]

My southern and northern Han added up to 100%. I am the purest Han Chinese. It’s a bit shocking

[@legendarypussydestroyer6943]

Wait a second, I'm half Hakka too (mom's side) and I took a MyHeritage test that also said I was about 1% Finnish wtf?

[@AnastasiaSaenz]

My ancestry is: 52.5% Mesoamerican and Andean, 20.1% Iberian, 8.4% Ashkenazi Jewish, 5.6% Finnish, 5.1% Italian, 3.8% Greek and South Italian, 3.0% Nigerian and 1.5% Middle Eastern. I have no idea how Finnish came to be a part of my ancestry with any of the others....and it's going to be 4 years since I took the DNA test...

[@sandb1867]

Thanks for doing these tests. I had wondered if I should do mine but even your detailed WeGene results would not give me any real insight into my "identity". Ethnicity is mostly a social construct. And that is confounded with geographical delineations. Both are constantly evolving so it's no wonder why neuro-scientists say identity is an illusion.

[@tokkiheartsyou]

i got mainly korean (i was born there lol) and japanese and some chinese when i took my test. it’s pretty cool to know exactly what you are.

[@VicZWYnl]

But as you can see, results (still) vary from company to company - so you actually still don't know 'exactly' what you are? I get what you mean tho, it is a bit of a confirmation

[@missfrances314]

Haha! So good to see / read someone who has these 3 ethnic background too! Whenever people ask if I am Japanese, I say yes. When they ask if I am Korean, I say yes too. And of course, when they wonder (as I look more / more like Japanese and Korean) if I am Chinese, I say yes also. I / we are in a win-win-win situation, right? Hahahaha!

[@massivereader]

Yeah, most of these DNA testing companies are bunk. The original academic research identified ethnic populations from relatively stable isolated rural villages and only used individuals that could trace their ancestries back in the same geographic location as far a generational records went. Almost all urban populations are admixtures of successive waves of migration.

[@janetgraham-russell4476]

Ancestry DNA results can change as the database pool gets bigger. For example, initially I inexplicably had 16% Scandinavian DNA. That became 2% Norwegian. Now they say I'm 100% British Isles with specific areas in the Scottish Borders. So, basically 100 miles from where I grew up. Whoooo. Boring, then.

[@jackytang3683]

No need DNA test. I know the guy from Yunnan or Guizhou south China. the girl from North China.

[@TsukiNuUsagi1]

jacky tang aren't hakka from southern China?

[@fangpiking]

@@TsukiNuUsagi1 yes, but they migrated from north China

[@_A_Ong]

@@TsukiNuUsagi1 Hakka were originally from Northern China

[@lyhthegreat]

@@_A_Ong yeah but they've intermixed with the southern population so much that they are basically southerners now..

[@_A_Ong]

@@lyhthegreat true, but DNA will definitely show northern china.