We unlocked +10% more Power on our 450SS! | CFMOTO 450ss ECU Flash + Dyno Run

[@joeybishop7604]

You should’ve done a dyno run before you did any modifications to the motorcycle to get a baseline

[@chaseontwowheels]

Totally agree but I'm a noob at this and didn't realize you needed to do that. Next time we'll handle it before!

[@gordonbush2054]

​@@chaseontwowheels Glad you are smart enough to be a student. Too many people with a following are permanently done learning.

[@richardwarsinske7064]

If you go to that "Real Talk Powersports" web page you can find before and after ECU flash dyno results for the stock 300 and 450 + results for the 450 with different pipe and air box mods. Looks to me that most of the 450's Slipon/flash improvements came from the ECU mods and additional improvements can be had with a full exhaust system that incorporates a cat delete.

[@motochiptuning]

Dynojet numbers is fake! What u think is wheel is actualy crank. Its proven many times. U got 51hp and its not wheel

[@mintysquinty2989]

​@@motochiptuningWrong.

[@DynojetResearch]

Always awesome to see people’s reactions to finding out how much even a stock improve tune can improve the performance on a bike! Also, that’s a cool dyno 😏

[@chaseontwowheels]

Cool Dyno indeed. And of course you would never be biased lol. Thanks for the comment!

[@JessicaSimonson1976]

A tune isn't needed for a slip on. A tune is required if you do a full system exhaust, and you're deleting sensors and cat.

[@cameronbrown367]

catbacks can require a tune but regarding bikes yea i think its not necessary

[@Joshandthekingdom]

This is exactly what i was looking for. I like getting more performance out of low CC bikes. They are light, cheap and reliable also neutered at the factory for emissions. This is how they should of actually be sold

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

Generally it’s not emissions but more A2 compliance. The Ninja 500 is point and case as well, from 42-44 whp to 56-58 whp from what I’ve seen. Pretty crazy power jumps… very, very noticeable on a small, 370 lb bike…

[@mikehawk6918]

@@sleeper.simulant7327 It's not A2 compliance. At least not in this case. For A2 a bike has to make less than 70kW (95hp) and is then restricted to half of that for the A2 license holder, and unrestricted once a full license is acquired. The 450 isn't being restricted here.

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

@@mikehawk6918 my point is a stock 450SS or Ninja 500 is A2 compliant…

[@mikehawk6918]

@@sleeper.simulant7327 Then you are wrong. A fully stock 450 is not A2 compliant because it makes 50HP, and therefore has to be restricted to 47hp. In fact, even if it made 45 more HP it could still be restricted.

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

@@mikehawk6918 in Europe the 450 has 46.3 hp to be exact. It’s A2 compliant, so I am not wrong…

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Awesome video guys! Cant wait to see y’all’s thoughts when y’all get out and ride them and twist that throttle back 🤘

[@dannylandrum7899]

So in other words, you got back the power that you never would have lost, had you not spent completely-unnecessary money on a different exhaust, when the original was "free" and worked perfectly. Got it.

[@culturdcustom]

oh yea, finally getting my dose of cf moto content. its been a while chase

[@SquireSCA]

Mark is awesome! He's tuned a couple of my bikes in the past... did great work on my Streetfighter 1098...

[@newbbeginnings5630]

OC: praying for chase! hope he recovers well

[@ghostontwowheels]

There needs to be a drinking game or something with how many times Patty Rick says "You love to see it" lol

[@scottporter0069]

Yoshimura claims you don't need a ecu tune. They created for this bike specifically. No air box mods no ecu flash. Still gain about 6 ponys. Just saying . Happy trails hope your feeling better.

[@TJ-qo2xu]

OC. It might just be me, but the 450 sounded like it was revving higher, and the 300 sounded like it was much much smoother. I'm looking forward to seeing what the flashes did to each bike. Hope you're doing better, Chase.

[@bmurphy1998]

I literally just got done watching their videos lmao they are awesome!!

[@jamiereinig]

I just bought a '22 650NK for my wife and Team MSC's tune for that bike seems to really liven up the lower part of the range. I may see about having them flash our ECU some time since the low-to-midrange is where ~80% of throttle changes happen. Would love to have you guys do a before and after on that particular model.

[@migueldelaguardia]

Get well soon Chase

[@deandrepowens]

Thought I would share the info been doing some research on the 450ss cause I’m looking to buy stock dyno numbers seem to be 44hp so 51 after tune and exhaust is pretty impressive !

[@Garcheezy]

oh man... where i live (argentina) there is a huuuuuge scene for these new cfmotos. Since kawasaki and yamaha went crazy with their prices for the ninja 400 and mt03 (about 12k USD thanks to import tariffs) the 450ss is like 8k usd here. I've seen at least 4 of these 450ss with full custom exhaust, racing filter and velocity stacks making lik 65hp at the crank (58/60 at the wheels) giving a run for its money to stock mt07's. Thats absolutely crazy if you ask me.

[@brycecummings7789]

this is my dream bike! just passed MSF so hoping for the best on the Giveaway🙏🏼

[@gabrielharris5446]

IM planning to get a 450ss as a first back. def doing these mods after riding stock for awhile. Hope youre okay Chase!

[@no-channel-9812]

hope chase is okay! wish you a speedy recovery man.

[@nscott26]

Hopefully they will be able to tune the 450 Ibex due out in a month or so, would like to see the gains on that!

[@christiangordon6198]

Loving my 650 Adventura. Probably going to send then my ECU soon also

[@EZBlast]

Dynojet Powervision worked for my MT09, they probably have a tune for CFMotto as well.

[@aamirsardar]

Love from japan ❤

[@IgoByaGo]

I subscribe to Real Talk Powersports!!! They are awesome and have always answered my questions.

[@OhNellly]

CF needs to import that new I4 Voom 🙏

[@keithkamps77]

Great video, most important hope Chase is Okay!!!!!!!!!!!

[@joerivera8269]

Hope all is good chase. Motorcycle accidents no joke. People 1st hobbies 2nd. Love your content. You inspired me to get my permit and buy my 1st bike,and work on it this summer. Finally gonna join. Get well stay safe. go team cfmoto. I couldn't get my hands on one.some day, one day. good luck to everyone.

[@michaelbell9827]

Need to do a tune on Chase's Ibex 800.

[@phenomen485]

What is the top speed the 450ss reached after the flash?

[@JamieS1992]

that looks like the same dyno my mechanic has sadly no flash tuning in my area so only power commander map

[@JamieS1992]

8:25 i turn my stickers into magnets for the garage fridge

[@alistairjolly9913]

love the lando norris shirt

[@nathanwimhurst822]

The big question is though what about the Warranty??

[@MotoSnax]

Why no measurement of torque? Would be nice to see that increase too. Also no air/fuel ratio visible. Great video whatsoever 😁

[@chaseontwowheels]

To get torque readings we would have needed to get access to a plug wire and we unfortunately just didnt have time to dig into the bikes that much that day. - Patty Rick

[@MotoSnax]

@@chaseontwowheels Thx for the update!

[@Smallbore2wheels]

Can they do the Papio too?

[@ogdadbod]

Why’s you delete the video you uploaded yesterday about the ECU flash

[@risingphoenix1187]

Chase I know you behind that camera boy. I see ya. 😂😂

[@Lupo2punto0]

That 300 is in desperate need of a good pipe, poor things sounds like it's choking!

[@Frank_Torre]

OC: Pretty much the power gains I expected. Having 50hp at the crank and then making 51hp at the wheel. With an exhaust and flash will generally make up for drivetrain power loss going from crank to wheel. Giving you the claimed crank hp, but now as wheel hp. The only other way to get significant power gains beyond that is to go full bore and build your bike out to a race bike with full race exhaust and rework the engine internals and cut some weight outta the bike.

[@generaldistrust]

can anyone confirm there's a 250cc *CROSSPLANE TWIN* on the way from *CF-MOTO?*

[@yoloterrence9426]

im tring to find where can i get the 450sr t-box / obd can anyone help?

[@Abbs2slick]

Made it

[@JamieS1992]

chase was in a crash and its just "thats for another video" i guess his got all body parts still

[@chaseontwowheels]

Its pretty much the most we can say based on what the lawyers are telling us. Trust me we'll have a full video out when we are able to.

[@MotorDanko]

51hp to the wheels is probably 55-56 to the crank, even more... so is like a 10hp jump from the factory.. and they say 50hp but in reality would be closer to 48 factory because euro regulations... AND is not only about top end power, is about engine response, elasticity, recuperation, retention, etc, etc, etc... so... even when you don't gain much HP, a tuned engine feels like a tuned engine... edgy, direct and agressive.

[@beeumm]

my local dealer has a huge sale on 450ss because they didnt move any. considering trading my R3 in 👀

[@chaseontwowheels]

Bro DO THAT!

[@stephenweewoo]

What dealer is this, in California these are selling the most

[@InsaneLegenD756]

Do it! I have an 450 NK now, had a Ninja 300 (comparable to your R3). The 450 is just in a whole other ballpark, you won't regret it.

[@stevie9361]

I was about to say it sounds like aeound 40hp on the dyno. Kinda sad vs duke 390/rc390 with same mods

[@tmmmedia731]

Get well soon chase hope everything is ok 🫡🙏

[@Buffington916]

Disattached😂 Because Georgia.

[@xxthehuskycaboosexx]

Why does the 450ss sound like my street fighter v4 💀

[@chaseontwowheels]

lmao, exactly!

[@arokiswrld]

Wait guys!!! You didn’t see how long it took from mailing to them and them mailing it back

[@MotoSnax]

4 days

[@MyToxicMasculinity]

300 ss makes about 26hp with a tune. An R3 makes about 42hp with a tune and exhaust and the bike only costs $900 more. It’s the same story with the 450ss. The R7 and ZX4R absolutely crush it for around $1000 more. Don’t buy a CFMOTO unless you’re just really into making bad value purchases. Both the 450ss and 300ss should be on Amazon for half their price.

[@hazardtv2929]

lmfao this guy

[@MyToxicMasculinity]

@@hazardtv2929 Facts are bad?

[@jayandrews4807]

thr r7 and zx4 cost closer to 3k more and if our dealership makes deals like my local one did its literally half the price for 80% of an r7 with the same exhaust note and the zx4rr isnt a comparison concidering they dont even use the same type of engine

[@ausstn879]

I’ll take a top 4

[@williamjacks460]

Oc

[@jackson_foto]

3rd

[@chaseontwowheels]

We expect more from you Mr. Jackson.

[@jackson_foto]

@@chaseontwowheels I won’t stop disappointing you dad

[@eddiebrock3]

İ wouldnt recomend,taking the ecu out for dino.because every city has its own atmosphere(air presure + weather condition).its better to take the bike itself for testing the performance.the chanses of getting top power gets higher by doing that and also taking ecu out for making changes is called "remapping" not "dino"

[@jaynus08]

well Chinese bikes are detuned to protect the engine due to reliability concerns...

[@divinegod4281]

2-3 HP gain idk not worth it