Well There's Your Problem | Episode 154: Electric Vehicles

electric cars: still cars as it turns out
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[@minikawildflower]

Salutes to every commenter who made the heroic effort not to message the pod about bridge fall down

[@OutbackCatgirl]

not many of us, it seems

[@minikawildflower]

@@OutbackCatgirl Press L Mr Bond

[@LoPhatKao]

i don't do twixxer, so not that much effort 😉 can't say i didn't want to tho

[@piccalillipit9211]

MY VERY FIRST THOUGHT was "can't wait for the 7 hour episode of Well There's Your Problem | Baltimore Bridge Collapse"

[@Frommerman]

Everyone talking about bridge fall down. Nobody talking about boat go donk, the prequel to bridge fall down.

[@heheheiamasuperstarcatgirl8485]

"History of vibrators" is begging to be a bonus episode

[@cholulahotsauce6166]

Right but it's the opposite of an engineering disaster

[@JoshSweetvale]

Episode 27 of There's Not Your Problem.

[@heheheiamasuperstarcatgirl8485]

​@@JoshSweetvaleApril fools day is coming up.. opportunity awaits 👀

[@alexroselle]

Tie-in (via the history of using vibrators to treat “hysteria”) to a discussion of benzodiazepines, which like fossil fuels are bad because they’re good

[@trout512]

I mean, if you've ever seen In The Next Room (the vibrator play) you'd know there's a lot there for them to riff on. Early vibes were wild, what they used them for was wild, and there's, again, a zany play all about it. I'm glad I got to see it live lol.

[@eugenebebs7767]

In the midst of chanting: "it's so Boever" I have found, deep within myself, and indomitable voice, whispering quietly: "We're so Airbussin".

[@electricnezumi]

You think it's so boever but really it's just embreginning

[@minikawildflower]

Airbussy

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Obligatory comment mentioning The Thing That Happened.

[@OutbackCatgirl]

bridge fall down, mr bond

[@Wojtek36762]

Everything happens so much

[@lmackenzie9198]

Immediately, this podcast came to mind when I saw The Thing That Happened.

[@brandonthesteele]

Never before have I paid this much attention to the "THIS EPISODE WAS RECORDED ON..." annotation while they were doing the goddamm news.

[@PostingCringeOnMain]

things do be happening tho

[@camelliascholl6564]

"really good cheese steaks" "no" "ok" this is the discourse i subscribed for

[@grantamos6299]

$6.00

[@5508Vanderdekken]

hard to argue with the logic

[@andresmorera6426]

Yay Rinn! And yay forehead kisses

[@dxb338]

fiesta pizza used to be really good BTW. At least fiesta pizzas III and V. II was mediocre, and i haven't had original. Anyway, greek style pizza with really good sauce but super greasy crust and cheese. Normally i do not condone dabbing pizza with a napkin before consuming, but it is necessary with fiesta, literal pools of grease. Apparently all bought out 15 years ago though. so maybe they fell off.

[@PhilfreezeCH]

frame - held

[@generatoralignmentdevalue]

Literally I didn't notice the pod was late. A lot of us don't waste brain space on memorizing every creator's schedule, and instead we get to be pleasantly surprised whenever we check our subs. You just don't hear from us because we're not going to message you over there being no problem and nothing to comment on.

[@MereMeerkat]

Every episode is a bonus episode!

[@wolfgang7850]

Yeah, I'm not in middle school anymore, can't be out here with a spread sheet of all my minecraft lper's that will turn out to be nonces in 5 years.

[@ebnertra0004]

I consider this podcast to be like Amtrak intercity service: scheduled but the schedule only tells you the earliest they _might_ get there

[@arandomlostsoul753]

@@ebnertra0004 Schedules are aspirations rather than binding agreements ;)

[@alexroselle]

21:55 “Excellent work, Agent 747. Now find an exit.” *plug door blows out*

[@Skullair313]

No, on the 747 it would be the outward facing cargo door (United 811)

[@pnutz_2]

secret exit with the flamingo suit

[@kontorabasukurarinetto2556]

hey did you guys hear about the boat. hey guys the boat. hey did you hear about the boat and the bridge. hey guys a bridge. hey

[@OutbackCatgirl]

i swear they time recording these perfectly to miss big events lmao

[@nickkennedy9034]

I cast diarrhea

[@Deimonik1]

The conspiracy theories surrounding it are next level stupid. Like up there with flat earth and covid.

[@johnvanzoest4532]

Its not really clear that they did. Keep going for maximum clarity.

[@alexhajnal107]

@@OutbackCatgirl They should announce when they're recording so we can all lock ourselves in our bunkers/basements for a week or two for safety's sake.

[@TheAdmantArchvile]

Shout out to Devon for the crazy amount of work they had to do to make this podcast not immediately die to the algorithm.

[@warmachine5835]

In Devon We Trust.

[@iciajay6891]

Truth

[@markifi]

doesn't resolve do this automagically by now?

[@a.gravemistake3061]

Do not Boe gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the flight

[@theprojectproject01]

The D**th Boem!!!

[@tangentfox4677]

If only Boeing followed that..

[@MrUforobogrendizer]

Man comments *can* be art

[@mossboss5695]

Fossil fuels being both really good and really bad is kind of an ideal form of a deal with the devil. Incredible energy density and utility for making materials like plastic, but comes at a genuinely unfathomable cost.

[@CS-jn3lx]

There's an SMBC comic that postulates fossil fuels were put on Earth by aliens to keep the planet sanatized of intelligent life. It's so useful that any intelligence will use it, thereby killing itself so the aliens don't have to.

[@HarryS77]

Imagine if we'd spawned at one of those super Earths. We could've burned fossil fuels for another couple hundred years easy.

[@KesSharann]

Big energy density at the cost of wasting most of it as heat (on top of requiring half of it for extraction of said energy). What a terrible exchange rate at the cost of most life on Earth.

[@fyerbrandtactics878]

November "Nova" Kelly's life is vicariously exhausting. Playing video games, hosting three podcasts, and being a full time student; I'm so glad I get to listen to a nice relaxing podcast in which nothing has ever gone wrong ever.

[@sunyavadin]

I am glad Liam found a way to shorten her name to the same number of syllables I was used to.

[@sunyavadin]

I am glad Liam found a way to shorten her name to the same number of syllables I was used to.

[@piccalillipit9211]

@@sunyavadin my sister's dog is called "Nova" and its just had its balls cut off - every time Liam shouts Nova I think he shouting at the dog.

[@Shredderbox]

All she needs now is a PhD so we can call her Dr. No

[@BarackLesnar]

​@@Shredderboxi was thinking that she should slow down and take care of herself and not take it so seriously. But. Dr No is too important

[@dougbuchanan784]

“Nova” is a lovely nickname for November, I think “Ember” would also be pretty badass

[@dougbuchanan784]

Oh man I just got to the end of the episode lmfao hello to Ember of Safety 3rd fame

[@embersaffron5522]

No stealing my name darnit! I had it first, also hi!

[@confusingdalek709]

@@embersaffron5522 Hey I don't think it's possible to DM someone on youtube so I'm just telling you here: I think you still have your old name in your youtube description. I assume you don't know that and would wanna change it

[@embersaffron5522]

@@confusingdalek709 Oh shit I Did not know that, thank you

[@hurricaneofpuns3722]

turns out her name is actually Nova Ember Kelly she just says it really fast so it sounds like November /s

[@Phished123]

"its Boever" absolutely destroyed me down to a molecular level.

[@loadeddice4696]

None sandwich, left cornbeef

[@user-sd3ik9rt6d]

Well there's your nerdfighter.

[@Riley-uy5pe]

teching that battle

[@TheRealE.B.]

Electric bicycles are the spiritual successor to early cars. The living-rooms-on-wheels that modern people refer to as "cars" are something else entirely.

[@MrJstorm4]

Golf carts are basically electric cars from the early 1900's with better steering, brakes, and suspension.

[@vylbird8014]

@@MrJstorm4 Not road legal though. Maybe think more the electric milk float. Those remained in use for many decades because the routes they had to take are very predictable and always short, making them ideally suited for electric power. Gone out of common use now though because of the rise of the supermarket - there's no more need for the milkman.

[@heheheiamasuperstarcatgirl8485]

​@@vylbird8014in oklahoma anything can be street legal as long as it has brake lights and a plate 👍 we're doing great over here in good ol' "ok"

[@binary_terror2]

@@vylbird8014doesn’t stop old people from tooling around their neighborhoods in them though

[@ristekostadinov2820]

@@heheheiamasuperstarcatgirl8485i remember i used to watch a guy on yt owning and driving road legal Batmobile with jet engine, i think he lives in Maine

[@DMarsh1394]

Mikhail Kalashnikov's Magic Wand is made of stamped steel and a bakelite handgrip, and will still get you off even after being thrown in the mud.

[@princeoftonga]

Is “thrown in the mud” a euphemism?

[@argspid]

@@princeoftongaYes. Also no.

[@DMarsh1394]

​@@argspid precisely

[@ericsmith5919]

Guys, they already talked about boat go bonk, bridge fall down. All they have to do to release a whole episode on this is swap the names from the Sunshine Skyway episode.

[@OrionsChild]

I simply left my Bridge Fall Down comment in the Sunshine Skyway episode instead 😎 A true patriot.

[@fauxpinkytoo]

April Fool's Day episode, amiright?

[@JoJoModding]

And the Big Bajou (?) Rail Crash

[@Hail_The_Fish]

not even six minutes in and the concept of "Kalashnikov vibrator" is already haunting me

[@Idothewrenches]

Gas operated for more efficient round ejection.

[@DefendYoungstown]

You can completely submerge it in water or bury it in sand, and it will still function!

[@BlindErephon]

It's on a lot of countries flags.

[@binary_terror2]

It’s a very November kind of thing

[@InsufficientGravitas]

@@Idothewrenches Ok, but you could legit just have a tesla turbine attached to an off-centre weight and strap it over the barrel and use the gas pressure from blanks to just power it.

[@TrinityShoji]

Hitachi Magic Wand inventor: "I wanted to make a new train locomotive, but instead I had to make a vibrator"

[@falloutghoul1]

Should've mad the APT, a train that's also a vibrator.

[@JackgarPrime]

His inventions get to run a different kind of train, though.

[@georgesears2916]

You know it wouldn't surprise me if it started off as some means of cancelling out vibration at specific frequencies for trains and someone just got off track... as it were...

[@AC-dk4fp]

Ayn Rand's corpse raises eyebrow.

[@heheheiamasuperstarcatgirl8485]

Modern locomotive technology truly stands on the shoulders of giants

[@cookies23z]

"You're boeing to die" with "it's bo-ver" on the back would be a great shirt

[@StCrimson667]

"a guy Boeing himself" That's actually a way better euphemism for killed than "unalived"!

[@BlisaBLisa]

new alternative to saying "he got epsteined": "he got boeinged"

[@FakeSchrodingersCat]

I have to remember the statistic that Tesla's have twice the immolation death rate of the Pinto.

[@calmc9655]

*so far...

[@CaptainHat]

Yay being namedropped on my favourite podcast :) I don't know if anyone's interested but low cost airdrop was/is my field of professional expertise at my old job. The US military (which by nature of its influence on NATO effectively means most Western-supplied militaries more or less follow these standards) has- very broadly- four categories of parachute; static line (unguidable) and "military free drop" (usually ram-air) parachutes are for personnel, while cargo drop is divided between low velocity parachute, high velocity parachute and free drop. Free drop does not use a parachute (1)(2)(3). Manned parachutes descend at between 8 and 26 fps (2.4-8 ms^-1, 5.5-18mph) LV drop is typically no more than 28 fps (8.5 ms^-1, 19mph) (1)(2)(5), and HV drop can be anywhere from 60-90fps (18.3-27.4ms^-1, 41-61.4mph) (4)(5). Cargo drop historically was done using essentially repurposed personnel parachutes, although much larger freight parachutes were also developed to drop full master pallet loads of up to a full size 10,000lb master pallet load. This resulted in the US mlitary expending a reported "over $31 million" worth of standard airdrop equipment in relief operations during the collapse of the former Yugoslavia in "Operation Provide Promise." In response, the US DoD (following a study on the effectiveness and cost of these operations (7)) submitted a request for a low-cost alternative to existing air drop options. This eventually resulted in the LCADS family of parachutes for standard "Container Delivery System" (CDS) airdrop, which is basically when you drop a 1.2m by 1m ISO pallet loaded up to a drop load weight of between 501 and 2,200lb (roughly 230-1,000kg). LCADS HV has roughly the same capability as the older HV CDS but costs $495 for the complete drop system as opposed to $1,230 for the older CDS (or did, in the 90s when the system was designed, I don't know what the current cost is). LCADS LV has roughly the same capabiliy as the older LV CDS but, again, initially cost about $1,260 as opposed to $3,815 (5). Other low-cost cargo parachutes have also been developed since but they're broadly equivalent in terms of function. The parachutes are visually quite distinct; the LV parachute (8) is visually quite wide and square, while the HV parachute (4) is much smaller and often appears very arched in descent. Both parachutes are composed of multiple broad strips of material arranged in a cross-hatch pattern. Some more recent videos of air drop in Gaza (notably the shoreline drop where people drowned trying to reach the supplies) use more traditional parachute designs more similar to the US T-11 or the older CDS designs. This isn't to say personnel parachutes or high-grade bespoke cargo parachutes aren't used for cargo drop; the Joint Precision Aerial Delivery System (JPADS) relies on a ram-air military free drop parachute attached to a GPS piloting system, for example, some militaries will use out-of-date T-11 personnel parachutes for cargo drop when available and the larger master pallet drop still uses a more expensive parachute because the LCADS parachute design doesn't scale up well beyond a certain point. I can't immediately find reliability data for LCADS systems but you see videos of LCADS parachutes failing all the time- I believe WTYP has earlier included stills from a video showing the rapid graviationally-assisted disassembly of a Hummer, for example- and several people I spoke to at trade shows while I was at my former job complained about having regular issues with equipment loss due to parachute failure, though there is an obvious selection bias in that broadly-anecdotal data set. The thing that DOES come across consistently when you speak to aid workers, however, is how incredibly inefficient and- frankly- dangeorus air dropping cargo often is, even in a military context, though especially so in humanitarian aid scenarios. Cargo air drop accidents killed soldiers in Afghanistan, but cargo air drop is regularly the cause of deaths and injuries in humanitarian aid. If you can't afford a parachute and you need to drop a lot of food, agencies used to just free drop 20kg bags of rice and so on. These, with a terminal velocity broadly in the region of 200mph, regularly cause casualties among the people they were intended to help when they are used. If you can find photos of old humanitarian aid drops you can see the impact they have on the ground; they look like small bombs going off. I struggled to find any just now because Google is crap these days, but they do exist. There are a wide array of reasons why most aid agencies these days use large numbers of very small free drop packages called Humanitarian Daily Rations (HDRs)(1)(6) wherever possible. These are dropped outside of any container from the aircraft, for several reasons; firstly, so that no single person or small group can monopolise distribution of the supplies, secondly so that no single package has enough kinetic energy on landing to seriously injure anybody and thirdly to reach as wide an area as possible so that aid distribution is not disrupted by contested terrain (this list is non-exhaustive). There are other ways of achieving similar results with more effort (i.e. the US "HOPE" system, as forced a backronym as you'll find), but broadly that's a much better way to not kill people. Even this isn't great though, as there's literally no accountability; like an inverse Kissinger lobbing tens of thousands of tons of high explosive into semi-random Cambodian forests, you might be giving thousands of families food for a few days, or you might just be hurling thousands of dollars' worth of aid into unoccupied terrain where nobody will find it at immense cost (running a military transport capable of air drop isn't exactly cheap) and you have basically no way of finding out which without having people on the ground- and if you have people on the ground that probably means you could have just driven there with tens of times as much aid on trucks that you can deliver orders of magnitude more effectively at a fraction of the cost. Uhh, yeah. I've done presenations on this stuff before. Kinda got stuck in my head. 1:cascom.army.mil/g_staff/g3/TTD/Products/QM-How-to-Handbook/Aerial%20Delivery%20How%20to%20Final%201%20Dec%202021.pdf "Aerial Delivery & Field Services Department "How To" Reference Handbook" 2: airborne-sys.com/product/intruder-ra-1-military-ram-air-parachute/ Airborne Systems RA-1 ram air "military free drop" parachute 3: airborne-sys.com/product/t-11-static-line-troop-parachute/ Airborne Systems T-11 non-steerable (static line) troop parachute system 4: nicheinc.com/pages/high-velocity-parachutes Niche Inc, "high velocity parachutes" (LCADS HV) 5: www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/systems/lcads.htm GlobalSecurity.org, "Low Cost Aerial Delivery System [LCADS]" 6: www.mreinfo.com/other-us-rations/current-us-rations/humanitarian-daily-ration/ 7: apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA368790.pdf Institute for Defense Analyses, "Bosnian Air Drop Study," Sept. 1999 8: nicheinc.com/pages/low-velocity-parachutes Niche Inc, "Low velocity Parachutes" (LCADS LV)

[@CaptainHat]

errata: The failed Hummer paradrop wasn't done using an LCADS parachute, I had intended to make a comparative point but forgot what I had meant to say when it came to actually writing the sentence. I probably made other mistakes but that's the most glaring one.

[@BlackCanary87]

Thank you for the information! ❤

[@cattibingo]

*Ding "Good afternoon this your captain speaking. It appears the ground crew is securing our wings with string & paper clips. But rest assured, the good news is that the stock price is up 2%"

[@piccalillipit9211]

*I TRAVEL IN A €1.3 MILLION* EV every day - the BurgasBus - the city owns them and they own a solar farm so they don't pay for ANY fuel for the city's busses. We have trolleybuses and BEV busses - the Deisel are being phased out - and it costs 70 cents for THE ENTIRE DAY NO MATTER HOW MANY BUSSES YOU GET

[@williamchamberlain2263]

Hush now - none of your people-centric socialism! Where's the profit? Where's the exercise of power to massage egos and salve daddy issues? WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE SHAREHOLDERS?

[@piccalillipit9211]

@@foxinsocks7531- I live in Burgas Bulgaria. There are many KZbin videos about it - if you look for "Burgas - Bulgaria 4K Virtual Walking Tour around the City - Travel Guide" Our mayor is AMAZING he just got elected for the 4th time with a majority of about 70% - all he did to campaign was produce a 75 page glossy booklet of all the things he had done in the last 4 years. Turns out - people vote for you when you do stuff that benefits them. EDIT: My rent is $150 a month 😀 .

[@EmyrDerfel]

​@@foxinsocks7531Burgas is a city in Bulgaria.

[@imightbejakob]

⁠@@foxinsocks7531burgas, bulgaria

[@amberruby4896]

Please tell us what city!!

[@Tzilandi]

49:35 - "I swear, I've seen this thing compete on Robot Wars." No kidding November; that's Roadblock, the 1997 Robot Wars winner.

[@SledgeOfHouseHammer]

She's not Alice anymore. She's November. She's so special, she has to have *two* deadnames.

[@Tzilandi]

@@SledgeOfHouseHammerFuck, I’d forgotten that! I’m so used to her being Alice, it’s part of my lizard-brain. Sorry!

[@deeznoots6241]

@@Tzilanditoo late you have already been cancelled and the woke police are on their way to arrest you, Inshallah.

[@Nwmguy]

Car bad. Electric car still bad.

[@BarackLesnar]

What if the cars were on rails and all connected. Then you'd love it. The hypocrisy of the left

[@Iamthestig42069]

Trains don't go everywhere but roads do. Getting rid of cars would be devastating to rural America. Building high speed rail between every sub 1000 population town makes zero sense.

[@BarackLesnar]

@@Iamthestig42069 who cares

[@dantem4119]

@@Iamthestig42069that’s such a strawman argument, nobody seriously suggests hsr going to a town of 1k lmao.

[@Iamthestig42069]

@@BarackLesnar so the working class only matters in cities? That's grade A bullshit

[@TheRealE.B.]

Car dealerships will be fine, even with low-maintenance engines, because now all of the cars are proprietary OS computers that are in constant need of repair. Someone I know recently had their windshield wiper circuit glitch out. The IT ticket from the dealership cost nearly $1,000. For windshield wipers.

[@Iamthestig42069]

Even if it wasn't like that there is still things like bearings, bushings, suspension. No machine is maintenance free. Even those bearings inside the electric motor will fail

[@zogworth]

Until a bunch of Ukrainian guys hack them

[@Gentleman...Driver]

@@Iamthestig42069 Yepp. And if they make less money from engine maintenance, they will absolutely increase the repair cost for something like brakes and suspension jobs. Because they already have the infrastructure and the costs associated with it.

[@CSXIV]

Since trolleybuses were brought up, there's one thing that got left out about San Francisco's trolleybuses. One of the reason they exist is because they can traverse the steeper hills in SF. A diesel bus can't climb them. And I doubt a battery electric bus can either because the battery would add too much weight. Streetcars were also incapable of climbing them, which is why the cable car network survived invention of the street car (on that note, the cable car was created specifically to deal with the hills). Note that the streetcars keep to the lower-laying parts of the city and tunnel under the hills.

[@blue9multimediagroup]

Muni uses battery buses on hills. Not as good as Trackless-Trolleys though

[@lars7935]

The real problem is that some idiots plopped down a street grid with no regard for terrain.

[@alexhajnal107]

To be pedantic, cable-drawn streetcars aren't exclusively found in hilly environments but they are particularly-well suited to them.

[@crystalenby3741]

Electric car good example of what happens when you have a good answer to a bad question

[@Frommerman]

I only read the first three words and was going to be up in arms.

[@Iamthestig42069]

I don't think it's a good answer. I live in rural Montana and you still can't drive them anywhere out here. It's like playing a video game with the map 40% locked. You can do the whole "map over dart board spontaneous road trip" thing with a $2000 buick anywhere in North America. Can't do that with trains or EVs. Spending 40-100 grand on something like that makes zero sense.

[@gerrye114]

​@Iamthestig42069 this is literally the same complaint as early gasoline cars. Tech is getting better and infrastructure is getting better. The other 95% of people it works for

[@Iamthestig42069]

@@gerrye114 how is it literally the same if roads didn't exist back then

[@Frommerman]

@@Iamthestig42069 The dartboard thing is a stupid little piece of American culture which is going to have to die if humanity is to have a future. The technology which made that possible is literally burning down the biosphere. I don't know about you, but I'd prefer still having a livable planet in 50 years to being able to go on inane roadtrips in a ruined world.

[@PoolNoodleGundam]

Liam yelling profanities at his wife about cheesesteak is the vibe this podcast embodies

[@Cory_Springer]

I really really want to purchase a "You're Boeing To Die" shirt.

[@alaeriia01]

Same

[@EmyrDerfel]

They sell that shirt now.

[@shmehfleh3115]

The lithium in lithium-ion batteries isn't the dangerous part; it's tied up in a lithium-cobalt oxide layer that makes up the cathode. What's dangerous about them is the electrolyte: In most Li-ion batteries, it's a flammable-as-shit liquid that ignites when the battery shorts or gets too hot.

[@ubermenschen01]

IIRC from chemistry class, the lithium column (Li/Na/K?) of the periodic table are reactive as shit with water too. Don't know if that reaction can happen due to the presence of the cobalt.

[@DanBalan1]

It's kinda crazy that November uses Photoshop instead of the incredibly on-brand GIMP

[@davidwright7193]

Try convincing someone that googling GIMP was safe at work….

[@alexhajnal107]

Especially after this episode's opening few seconds.

[@ckorp666]

it would only be off brand if she was dumb enough to pay for it

[@spartan117ak]

Maybe the worst thing about the food aid we're delivering to Gaza is that high calorie/high sodium MREs are simply not suited for a starving and dehydrated population.

[@BlisaBLisa]

high calorie seems like a good thing for a starving population, though there is the refeeding syndrome ig

[@ThePopopotatoes]

Are they dropping actual MREs or HDRs? The HDR is made for this situation, but they do have halal MREs so if they're short on HDRs they may be dropping those

[@embersaffron5522]

Hey! I'm Ember, I've got so fuckin many stories of that goddamn place. Also hi Victoria and November! Also sorry Devon I don't watch these episodes usually on account of watching the pretty blue light

[@Crowborn]

Delightful story, glad you're working somewhere safer now though!

[@embersaffron5522]

@@Crowborn God me too, that place was a death trap

[@kennethlutze]

LETS GOOO, the gang is back, victoria is back.

[@Eliteerin]

Hell yeah

[@user-mv2rn5gy9p]

​VinceMcMahonInterested.jpg: New WTYP episode ​VinceMcMahonExcited.jpg: it's about EVs ​VinceMcMahonAlmostThere.jpg: It's almost 2.5 hours long ​VinceMcMahonLaserClimax.jpg: "with Victoria Scott"

[@janmelantu7490]

The reason why it’s called “Quaker Steak and Lube” is there’s a motor oil (*lube* for cars) company called Quaker *State*

[@alexhajnal107]

Also, according to the founders the reason for adding the words "and Lube" was to make it sound quirky (the original proposed name being simply "Quaker Steak").

[@alexhajnal107]

And the Quaker State, of course, being Penssylvania, home to the infamous Titusville/Oil Creek.

[@DefendYoungstown]

But to answer Nova's question about if it's "silicone or water based": neither... it's Ranch Dressing based.

[@alexhajnal107]

@@DefendYoungstown LOL

[@hideflen6078]

Okay I snorted at "Boemerta"... and I used to intern at a historic site in Upstate New York where the fancy getaway cabin compound had a gasoline generator in the basement to power the lights. Unclear if it charged anyone's electric car.

[@falloutghoul1]

Pete's title for "Electric Stalin" should be *Thunder Tsar.*

[@kolliaskollias]

CyberMan You can drive any EV you like, as long as it's a CyberTruck.

[@atn_holdings]

*YOU'VE BEEN* [guitar riff] *THUNDER TSARRED*

[@MrJohndoakes]

1:01:30 That wasn't Adam Savage in the coffin, it was the other host Jamie Hyneman. He ditched the minute the lid started buckling from the tons of dirt.

[@guypradel8874]

Yeah, that part is genuinely scary.

[@Riley-uy5pe]

let it be known that Jamie is a slumlord in sanfran

[@alaeriia01]

​@@Riley-uy5pe sounds about right, but can I still get a citation on this?

[@GaltarDude1138]

Liam bringing the laughs 3 seconds into an episode, must be a new record 😂

[@cmaylo]

RIP my productivity at work for the next few hours

[@EmyrDerfel]

​@@dchance75702your life must be so dull. If all you want is knowledge go read wikipedia.

[@cyberbrunk]

"it's boever" got a literal out-loud laugh from me

[@branna997]

Nova, the president who was x-rayed after being shot and still died was Garfield not McKinley. But you’re forgiven for truncating them, nobody’s perfect except Victoria Scott

[@alicecaldwell-kelly9530]

couldn’t find the bullet cause he kept eating all that damn lasagna

[@warmachine5835]

Even before Nova pointed it out, the words from my lips were "The Berlin Airlift this is not." It's really incredible how we as a species never seem to learn anything from our failures OR successes. Might even say it was "concerning." I don't know, I'm angry.

[@BarackLesnar]

The failure to de-nazify europe after ww2 is similar to the failure of american reconstruction after the civil war to de-confederatize, and the effects of those failures are driving events in the present day

[@damientonkin]

The thing about a misfiring engine taking a limb off reminded me of hearing Yvonne Craig speaking at a convention. She played batgirl in the 1960s batman tv show and she rode a motorcycle. She mentioned that in those days all motorcycles were kick started and sometimes they kicked back. Meanwhile shes in head to toe lycra or whatever that suit was made of so i think she described it as producing language not suitable for prime time television. So after this had happened a couple of times they ended up with possibly on e of the first motorcycles with an electric starter. Interesting lady, sadly no longer with us.

[@NukaLemonade]

Cool, I was just thinking I needed something in the background while I make my pokemon character run in circles to breed imaginary salamanders.

[@redkite1908]

A nice, soothing, relaxing podcast where nothing ever goes wrong, ever.

[@MaganmashFlutefighter]

Literally same

[@criticalevent]

Isn't it crazy that the entire time gasoline cars had hand cranks, there existed electric motors what could drive a whole damn car. No one thought to put the two together.

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

The profit margins are greater on fossil

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

1:40 "Hello, and welcome to Well There's Your Problem..." 8:03 The God Damn News 18:22 The God Damn News, pt. 2 24:09 Main Subject dang, didn't know Hitachi was the 'Master of All Traits' company.. well know whenever I see a Hitachi my friends are going to be wondering why the fuck I'm loosing it right then and there Hitachi: the company that literally can't take its name off the world's best vibrator no matter how hard it tries. Wait so they're going to build a miniature mulberry harbour in Gaza? safe to say it'd make sense to just do what Germany does: PUT UP OVERHEAD ELECTRIC WIRES OVER THE FREEWAY- actually no just- JUST PUT THE TRUCKS ON A TRAIN ALREADY YEEEEES THE ADAM SOMETHING METHOD OF 'TURN EVERYTHING INTO A TRAIN' YEEEA Petition to make Victoria do a car review for an EMD GP7

[@ferlessleedr]

On the list of people who bought beach houses by inventing something that improves the world - the Super Soaker guy, for sure. I hope he's got a beach house.

[@sunyavadin]

I don't think that conversation with Netanyahu would be all that difficult. As soon as he hears the CIA's bomb going off in his car outside the window while you're making the call, it should give him some perspective real fast.

[@davidwright7193]

I think starting with “Hi Benji how do you fancy spending the rest of your miserable existence in a Dutch jail you disgusting piece of slime?” Ought to concentrate his mind enough. Biden has Netanyahu’s balls in a vice and could turn the handle anytime he likes.

[@billmozart7288]

If the CIA was against what Netanyahu is doing, it would have stopped a long time ago

[@alexcarter8807]

Except the US is not Russia or the 1930s Mob.

[@cl3mb0t]

⁠@@alexcarter8807Right. They’d flub it just like many attempts in South America (Cuba in particular), Italy, and a few former Soviet Allies. Thanks Alan Dulles!

[@Evolution_Kills]

Victoria? The co-pilot for one of my favorite episodes, Supersonic Transports? FAN-FUCKIN'-TASTIC!

[@stephendaley266]

13:02 correction. These are the Army's version of SeaBees. SeaBees are Navy. The Navy also has the capability to built a temporary pier... but they sent in the Army instead.

[@JoshSweetvale]

I think you shouldn't use the word 'also' in the sentence 'The Navy has the capability to build a temporary pier.'

[@AbsolXGuardian]

We got the wet soldiers, the moist soldiers, and the dry soldiers *and they sent the dry soldiers*

[@hobbitronic]

Glad November's back in Uni. I cannot overstate how much getting that goddamn bit of paper reset my anxiety to 0

[@alexbenishek6638]

1:29:00 as a software engineer I can say that cars have the reputation for having the poorest quality code

[@tharun7290]

Delighted to have Victoria back, *insert joke about current events here as I am too sleepy to engage my pre frontal cortex*

[@ValerieEnriquez]

1:24:30 I probably told this story in the comments before, but in high school, I drove an '81 Ford Crown Victoria. It was a point of pride that I could fit half the jazz band and their instruments in my car, my slutty bigass car can fit half a jazz band. I miss that car. Whatever hasn't been stripped for scrap is probably rotting away somewhere in a landfill like that depressing scene from Brave Little Toaster.

[@alexcarter8807]

When I was on a sports team, we found that renting Lincoln Town Cars worked out better than renting minivans. More room and $10/day cheaper.

[@thomasdjonesn]

I've worked in public transit for 20 years, and can confirm, rail is the best. Tracks everywhere. Give everyone UBI and a bonus to work on their local lines. Cover the earth in catenaries.

[@alexcarter8807]

Of my area's buses, light rail, and regular (heavy?) rail, I like the full-on train the best.

[@Eliteerin]

Mandate of Devon is my new favourite concept

[@alexhajnal107]

Doesn't that border the Free Territory of Trieste?

[@OutbackCatgirl]

I love how Victoria and Nova both had an instant "mommy??? sorry, mommy?????" moment halfway through Safety Third lmfao .... i do not blame either of you honestly

[@embersaffron5522]

That made my whole goddamn month

[@morganalabeille5004]

The comment about the magic wand being surprisingly old reminded me that my friend has a vibrator from 1912

[@morganalabeille5004]

Just looked up if the Titanic had electric sockets and somebody could've been using a vibrator on that thing

[@JustDiptych]

Good luck with your driving test, Nova! Don't feel bad if you don't get it the first time. I failed my first time, blubbered a bit, and then passed just fine the second time.

[@ashleyfurrow4414]

She only has to pass once! That’s the motto I used to get though my attempts. Been driving for a couple years now solo

[@johannageisel5390]

Our goal must be "no cars", not "electric cars", though I am open for electric cars for all situations where public transport is the less resource efficient or practical option. (For example as vehicles for tradespeople who have to transport material and tools.)

[@gmodrules123456789]

Yeah good luck doing that in a reasonable timeframe. I don't really see how you are going to phase out a consumer good that has millions of units being manufactured every month. A consumer good that has hundreds of billions of dollars of infrastructure built around it. A consumer good that is continuing to grow exponentially in places like China, India, and in West Africa. This utopian nonsense of "no cars" is useless. People regurgitating it are useless. Not Just Bikes has poisoned the minds of millions of GenZ'rs. You are never going to accomplish a goal like that, nor would it even be a goal worth pursuing. Word to the wise, but NJB isn't exactly the best source of information on anything. A professional complainer at best, a grifter at worst. You've got maybe another 25 to 40 years to find a lasting solution for climate change. You aren't going to take away everybodies car in 25 years. Not even if you invested trillions of dollars in public infrastructure. Even still, a place like China invests literal trillions into the most advanced public transit networks, and their automotive production is still growing every year. Find a better solution.

[@Gentleman...Driver]

No cars is an unrealistic approach to the problem. I agree that especially the US has to invest more into public transport. Cars are extremely useful transportation tools, and its absolutely no wonder why they are so successful. Keep in mind that most cars are used to commute to work and back home, and for groceries or other daily tasks. Most of them arent used for "fun".

[@gmodrules123456789]

Our goal must be "no cars", If that is your goal, then your actual goal is "we are going to do nothing". Because when you set a goal that unrealistic and stupid, it amounts to absolutely nothing.

[@ubermenschen01]

​@@Gentleman...DriverCars suck shit as general transportation; one of, if not the most inefficient means of transit. They take up lots of space per person, they're loud, create tons of pollution per person, and cost a ton of $$ to maintain (2nd highest expense only to housing in the US). People drive b/c it's often the only option after decades of spending to enforce car ownership, and zoning laws that make it illegal to build things close to each other. You don't require a car for either commuting or errands if your city/town allows it.

[@Gentleman...Driver]

@@ubermenschen01 People drive cars because they are absolutely practical and because they are lazy and because they want to save time. I would rather spend hours in a traffic jam then having to rely on public transportation, which is dirty, noisy, you have to share it with all sorts of other people (the smells, the violence). Its often enough unreliable in my country (Germany), and many things more. Have been there, wont ever go back again.

[@gurusmurf5921]

I don't know if you've heard of this but there is this bridge that fell down you could do an episode on. I think it was in Tacoma across a straight called The Narrows.

[@alaeriia01]

They already did that one. First live show.

[@devinfaux6987]

When it comes to powering road vehicles from overhead electric, I keep thinking about bumper cars, with just a mesh above the road. For bonus points layer solar panels above the mesh and now you don't have to worry about weather on the roadway so much! (this is not a serious proposal)

[@Crazyfrog41]

The sad part is, you may be joking, but I know someone who would see this as a legitimate sugjestion

[@DW_25]

I guess I'm not sleeping for the next 2:30 hours. Thanks for timing it with midnight in Australia for maximum fuckery

[@lansonp]

join the club up in queensland will be listening until 2 am. worth it

[@q3st1on19]

Au gang au gang I have a flight to catch tomorrow morning but fuck it

[@damientonkin]

I'm in Western Australia so I 'might' finish the episode before midnight

[@relwalretep]

Figure I should just accept that I'll only make to the end of the News before passing out, so may as well leave the rest until morning heh

[@carstarsarstenstesenn]

bruh go to sleep you can listen later

[@fafnir491]

>ears immediately twitch upon hearing “Kent State”< So rare to hear my obscure area represented.

[@sarahweber3836]

I don't like using my mom's super fancy sewing machine that's button* operated, I can't imagine operating a car that way. (Also, embrace the Balatro addiction!) * Yes I know the difference between buttons and touch screens, my point is that in both instances you're going from using a pedal to start, stop, and control speed to tapping something with your finger. The experience is still a feeling of lack of control.

[@alexhajnal107]

A button operated sewing machine? How in Hades does that work? Maybe if you're Vishnu...

[@rodakscreens]

Big fan of the idea of the Boeing Contract Hit situation being a David Fincher's The Killer situation and they were after somebody else for one of seventeen other incidents they've been involved in this year.

[@a-smith3y]

Wires are still up on much of the 73 line outside Boston. Biggest problem with the catenary lines were that this was one of the only trackless trolley lines. When there was need to shift drivers to other lines they could not temporarily flex them to another line and then back on the 73/71 lines, the drivers would just disappear resulting in very poor service with inconsistent and very long headways and crowding on a bus line that is one of the top 10 lines in terms of ridership in the system. We all want the trackless trolleys to continue because the diesel buses seem to break down more than the electric trolleys did, and we're not convinced the battery electric busses will prove reliable enough soon enough for good service.

[@kilowyatt1107]

this episode has now aged even better with the news of every tesla car having to be recalled

[@AndrewJam]

Ember is a fantastic name for a welder.

[@embersaffron5522]

Thank you, I really didn't plan it that way

[@joinedupjon]

Re weird electrification standards from the past... Philly has some buildings still supplied with actual 2 phase (90 degree) mains and is probably the last place in the world still maintaining it. I heard about it from Fran Blanche, imo you should get her on the show sometime.

[@imsoawesome2013]

Having a vision of a buc ees with a giant cooling tower looming over with the squirrel painted on the side

[@redlibertyx]

The Frito Lay's truck is hella funny because (at least in NorCal) when they drive on 680 they (at least used to) send two Tesla semis per trailer because they obviously don't trust them to make the trip.

[@twirlincurtis]

Me hooting and clapping like a seal every time a Victoria guest episode comes out 🎉

[@AlRoderick]

The difference in energy density between gasoline and diesel and batteries isn't as unsurmountable as you might think, because every single combustion vehicle throws away the majority of the energy in its fuel. Most of them are about 25% efficient at the best. And so it goes from being a 10 to one advantage to about a three to one advantage given electric vehicles can use well over 95% of the energy in their batteries.

[@gagenater]

yes and no - most gasoline vehicles nowadays are in the 30-35% efficient range (maximum theoretical is ~ 40% , and diesels are getting close to 40% (maximum theoretical ~ 50%) efficient. It's still throwing away the majority of it's energy as heat, but not nearly so bad as you initially stated.

[@meganegan5992]

aye, not to mention all those parts in the car for an ICE engine are sizably more than you'd get in an EV, and become essentially dead weight. EVs of course need their own engines, but a V8 motor is significantly less energy dense by torque than an equivalent electric motor, so I'd still imagine a three to one disadvantage is apt.

[@jrevillug]

​@@gagenater - the peak efficiency might be improving like that, but in real world application the engine will rarely run at its best speed. Not to mention regen braking. Mind you, the weight of the battery works the other way. Plug-in hybrids - that actually get plugged in - are probably the least-worst option for a personal car.

[@gagenater]

@@jrevillug For operations with a lot of stop and go, I'll readily agree to that - however ICE makers have gotten MUCH better at transmissions and EFI fuel air mixtures to keep the engine in the sweet RPM and fue/airl mixture ranges for maximum efficiency. OUtside of really awful traffic conditions, the overall efficiency of most ICE powered vehicles might really surprise you.

[@tangentfox4677]

Outdated. Peak efficiencies are reaching 40-45% for gasoline, with normal operating ranges being consistently above 30%. Despite this and how much battery weights negatively affect EVs, electric is still a better option because the efficiency is so high that its worst case is still better than the best case of ICE power. For someone needing extra range, a hybrid or plugin hybrid is best. Getting anything that just uses gas is stupid at this point. Of course, the real issue is using cars at all. Public transit is the real solution.

[@awkwardturtle7973]

I would like to thank Nova for my new vocal tick of "Lube Oils" every time I pass a mechanic. Honestly a vast improvement in my life

[@Eloraurora]

34:43 Grimes going back to her 'reenact classic American novels' era, but with a steam car instead of a riverboat.

[@francistheodorecatte]

another finger on the monkey's paw curls

[@scarlett453]

I legitimately thought my phone died at the end there, and then Liam said "wrap it!" and I got jumpscared

[@a.p.2356]

I've taken a nap in an EV1. Decently comfortable seats, in that 90's GM, grey on grey on grey interior kinda way. The engineering department at my college had one in the back lot. GM donated a number of them to schools after they took them all back from the folks who leased them, except they destroyed the motor controller and forbade anyone from driving them as EVs. The engineering dept was run by a lovable lunatic, so he promptly found a nearly identical motor controller from an EV S-10 (which were actually sold in very small numbers, so a handful pf parts existed out in the wild) and installed it. It worked, except the motor turned backwards. Some students eventually figured that out and got it running, and "converted" it to a "hybrid" "test bed" by installing a Honda generator in the trunk. They drove it around for a few years to early EV shows and whatnot, until GM found out about it and shit a brick (or so the story goes). Last I checked, it's still under a tarp at Western Washington University; Victoria, I bet they'd let you play with it if you went up and asked them.

[@hendrikd2113]

You should do an episode about the time, that the German Post Office became the largest EV manufacturer of the country.

[@piccalillipit9211]

*THIS IS SO WEIRD* my sister's dog is called "Nova" and its just had its balls cut off - every time Liam shouts Nova I think he shouting at the dog.

[@Browseidon]

Not that far off

[@TLDelapore]

"The mental health equivalent of one hit point"

[@River_StGrey]

By the time you've received your taco bell bag, you've demonstrated such a commitment to ignoring suffering and powering through anything that you're basically impervious to having a mental health.

[@0xEA61E]

Correction on the model x that got the billionaire lady - her model year had a normal shifter stalk, and the front doors of the model X have a normal emergency door handle where you’d expect it to be (the speaker thing is only in the back doors). Also her BAC was 0.23

[@05Matz]

Ooh, I think I know this one! Battery vehicles, when properly designed, are theoretically useful for the last few instances where you can't get fixed-route public transit for some reason, but we badly need to replace as much as possible with overhead-wire (or otherwise externally powered) transit, ideally all of it. One thing I'm interested in is that you can theoretically build an electric vehicle with MUCH less in the way of untrustworthy, manufacturer-supplied computers to potentially pose a liability in the future than a modern ICE vehicle -- it's a giant RC style Electronic Speed Controller with a regen braking feature, and a battery management/charging system, both of which are mostly independent and pretty reasonable projects to procure an open-source or commodity version of. Whereas a gasoline engine is a big black box full of sensors and actuators probably controlled by the same computer that runs the entertainment system... I know people DO replace ECUs with custom ones in some circles, but I couldn't imagine the complexity of that project. Unfortunately, nobody seems to be marketing a light, small, 'dumb' electric car with salt- and slush-resistant construction, good cold-weather insulation, and a heat pump heating/cooling it that I could maintain myself, and I'm not sure one could ever be built that would be safe from being crushed by one of the monstrous SUVs/luxury trucks that are the main vehicles seen in Alberta. But I know the province and its oil company masters would NEVER allow real transit to exist, only increasing degrees of car-centrism, so I kind of need one. It seems the only escape I have is to figure out whether there's some regulatory loophole I can use to convert an existing car to a plug-in hybrid with a kit and keep it road-legal... Fundamentally car-centrism needs to end, but as a fallback for whatever we fail to replace, we'll need either battery vehicles, synthetic fuel infrastructure and the supporting legislation to prevent fossil fuels from being cheaper (and an economic situation that somehow makes this work for people), or both. Let's see how far off my take is from yours. ...I really, REALLY wish I (and everyone I care about) didn't live in a place that was _specifically_ and deliberately hostile to anything that was even _perceived_ as 'environmental' out of spite and loyalty to the oil barons.

[@aadst1]

In defense of Westinghouse, Westinghouse Electric Company still operates, building nuclear assets under the Westinghouse brand, with AP1000 system parts production occuring at least in Newington NH; now owned by Brookfield Renewable Partners and Canadian Mining and Energy Corporation. They're owned by someone else, but the AP1000's are critical and powering the grid, AP300's looking good, and the eVinci's moving forward!

[@zeitgeistx5239]

Westinghouse was bought by Toshiba and ended up nearly bankrupting them.

[@Skullair313]

Isn't wabtec a descendant of westinghouse?

[@ewetoo]

its a podcast about about leftovers and essays and i've missed it so much.

[@ajwolf3633]

The white travel center in Raphine Va is a gem to the trucking community and I cannot tolerate any slander of my favorite truck stop. I once walked out of that place with a fresh haircut, new cowboy boots, rayban sunglasses, a set of chrome wheel hub covers and a nathans chillidog that I didn't have when I walked in. Iowa 80 wishes it could be white travel center and I'm sad to be an almost exclusively West Coast driver now.

[@sakurakiyori]

Hi, Rin, and Victoria! Best of luck with school, November!

[@Lode422]

1:19:29 HOME OF CHALLENGE RAILROADING! THAT'S RIGHT, CHALLENGE RAILROADING!

[@thomasdjonesn]

I still cue that video up every once in a while.

[@bobsmith2637]

Only at THE MILWAUKEE ROAD!!!!!!

[@LeafseasonMagbag]

This podcast teaches socially responsible belligerence and that is an invaluable resource

[@ckorp666]

great way to put it

[@yesterdaysrose5446]

(Squinting at the intro picture) Isn't that Grandma McDuck's car from Scrooge McDuck comics? Looks just like it and I remember some comics mention it's electric.

[@TheVorple]

The entirety of Gaza city is having to play frogger on an interstate with the traffic coming from the sky, and every once in a while, one of the cars is a bullet train. No notes.

[@robmoney]

No one mentions all the exposed metal bits on the charging station. Those things probably fried a lot of people.

[@slimjim1982]

Yall were in peak podcasting form during the pre episode banter! lots of good laughter thanks for your hard work (:

[@XanderTuron]

1:01:00 So with the doors on Tesla vehicles, from my understanding, all of the doors do in fact have some sort of mechanical over ride. However, there are some real big brain moves at play with them. The front doors all seem to be relatively reasonable in the current production models. There is a latch integrated into the armrest directly ahead of the window controls; this latch is fairly quick and simple to lift up provided that you know that it exists, The caveat is that if you use it when the vehicle has no power and the windows are up, the window trim gets in the way because the top of the window frame is part of the body of the vehicles, not the door (apparently this doesn't really make the door harder to open, but it does mean that trim will get damaged which is the least of your concern in an emergency). Older model years have the mechanical latch located next to the corner of the door window in a fairly visible location and it works in the same basic way. The backdoors are where it gets really stupid. On the models that have standard back doors, you have to pry the speaker cover off from the bottom of the door and find a little handle to pull on to engage the mechanical latch. It's even worse on the SUV with it's falcon wing back doors; the over ride is also located behind the speaker grill, but instead of a little handle that disengages the door latch, there is instead a metal wire with a plastic bead at the end that you have to pull on to over ride the door mechanism. After this you must then lift the door up whilst working against the hydraulic system that opens and closes the door. I'm not familiar with all the mechanics of the falcon wing doors so I don't know if a standard mechanical latch would work with them, but the fact that the standard rear doors have a completely hidden mechanical latch is fucking unacceptable, especially when the front doors have easily accessible (if somewhat non-obvious) mechanical latches.

[@CS-jn3lx]

Holy shit, this is terrifying. I sometimes have to take Ubers for work and they're often Teslas. Guess it's time to find a video about how to emergency exit them.