The guy who is so taken aback by the ethnic “slurs” from the recounts is soy annoying. This is the type of person wanting statues and and peoples twains books removed from “polite” society. Is that his stance? If not get over it. It makes you seem like you have the white guilt. And if not then you are giving fuel to these weirdos that do. Its a historical account and uses the parlance for the day. And really thank god we have these accounts so we can see the progress. Its annoying listening to you judge these people by todays standards. Erasing history has got to be one of the all time dumb ideas being pushed by lefties today. There is many seems like they currently have a monopoly on bad ideas . Great series here but that guy was ridiculous and really took away from history pretty much mocking history acting like it was an affront to his senses. This is what we call confession through projection. Also I believe it’s supposed to be the funny guy that was doing this. He is not particularly funny , throw enough shit against the wall sure be some funny there, but be doesnt help what is a fascinating series. Sorry its my opinion and it may be wrong to many, but censorship should never be a thought that goes through anyone in A free society. Stop censoring history its retarded
@TrashHeapCustodian3 жыл бұрын
imagine being a sad enough person to be writing this screed on thanksgiving
@robk72663 жыл бұрын
@@TrashHeapCustodian he's a troll. He's probably a fan and wants their attention. Look at the Grammer
@aidanwilds14193 жыл бұрын
Sir, this is a Wendy's
@atl50333 жыл бұрын
At least you're aware your opinion is wrong.
@TrashHeapCustodian3 жыл бұрын
@@robk7266 my statement stands, troll or no
@GalaxyGuy123 жыл бұрын
I admire you guys' dedication to realism; the Titanic episode took a long time, like the disaster, it was split into two pieces, like the ship, and at least a quarter of the people on it are no longer with us at the end.
@joearnold68813 жыл бұрын
They didn’t record it, but they did take a break to draw each other like one of their French girls.
@tad20213 жыл бұрын
@@joearnold6881 That was the Patreon exclusive for this week.
@jeanlucdiscard3 жыл бұрын
I could literally listen to them talk about Calculus for 10 hours straight. No, that's not a recommendation for a future episode.....ah damnit, too late.
@eleSDSU3 жыл бұрын
@@joearnold6881 Aww, the missing slides. I desperately want to see the scene with Alice drawing Liam while he wears Roz around his neck
@cuteButKindaDeadlyBreloom3 жыл бұрын
God bless this post and may we solemnly remember the fallen.
@GTDGalatea Жыл бұрын
"If you're down there and like your sub fails, you're being turned into chunky marinara." prophetic.
@godlugner53275 ай бұрын
Aged very well for that prophecy
@knightofficer5 ай бұрын
Hardly, just an established scientific fact of reality, something mister "got the lights from camper world" forgot to factor in
@kyleshape86453 ай бұрын
I guessed it'd be more like a slurry.
@GTDGalatea2 ай бұрын
@@kyleshape8645 I don't think the crabs will complain about the consistency
@LoPhatKao2 ай бұрын
Stockton Rush't, so now he's mush't
@AnAttemptAtHumor3 жыл бұрын
The coveted 24 hr episode becomes ever more likely
@michaelkitchin96653 жыл бұрын
The Tacoma Narrows Bridge disaster has never been covered in such exhaustive detail.
@Skullair3133 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there will be a wtiyp episode about the 24h episode
@BiggestCorvid3 жыл бұрын
I'm 6 minutes in, is that part 2 of 2 or just part 2? Either way I'm down I have snacks
@jamiec55653 жыл бұрын
Peal Harbor will be a good candidate. Although it would probably be the bonus episode on childhood/ teenage haircuts.
@kazmark_gl86523 жыл бұрын
I hope the 24 hour episode is the Boston Molasses flood. Exhaustive detail, more tangents than previously thought possible, Alice Interrupts Every other word, Liam litterally starts fighting at least 2 people. full coverage of the 8 hour battle in which Roz defends west Phili from the Syrian Arab Army.
@hughcrosthwait5497 Жыл бұрын
1:59:36 "If you're down there and your, like, your sub fails, you're being turned into chunky marinara." "More of like a meatball" [laughter] Nice foreshadowing for Part 3 of this episode
@miche1df Жыл бұрын
F
@Karlfalcon Жыл бұрын
Was just about to say. Way to lathe it into existence, gang!
@christopherclukey8849 Жыл бұрын
I am *really* looking forward to the WTYP crew doing an OceanGate Titan episode when the Maritime board of inquiry relases its report.
@redcoconutcurry35910 ай бұрын
oh sure, Eye-talians are useful when you need tomato sauce jokes, but you won’t let us near the lifeboat
@RooneyMac7 ай бұрын
@@redcoconutcurry359I'd let you into /my/ lifeboat 🥴
@verderuso3 жыл бұрын
I appreciated Alice's "titanic but the faster it sinks the faster it sinks" joke.
@zozzleberryfin17352 жыл бұрын
Alice said this just as I read this comment
@TwoWholeWorms3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that Kyle is so knowledgeable about this that there are several interjections of "I didn't put this into my notes, but…" in an episode with enough notes that it hit FIVE HOURS. xD
@RJ_Productions3163 жыл бұрын
Man's been researching Titanic for almost a decade for T:HG. I'd really hope to god he has an encyclopedic knowledge on the subject. But for real tho it's always nice to see someone so knowledgeable on the show
@DistractedGlobeGuy2 жыл бұрын
@@RJ_Productions316 and he's just one of the 3D artists, not even a technical consultant.
@HamburgerTime209 Жыл бұрын
Titanic fans just be like that. Genuinely.
@Xxshadowman11xX Жыл бұрын
"If you're down there and your sub fails you're turning into chunky marinara." Little did they know it would happen a year and a half later. Bet you don't see that description in the news!
@mkozachek3 жыл бұрын
To wit: being drunk in any kind of cold conditions will accelerate and worsen hypothermia as it’s a vasodilator. You feel warm because your blood follows to the surface of your skin and will more efficiently carry away your body heat. This is not one of those 25% of disasters where being drunk is a good idea.
@bchin40053 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this so I didn't have to👍
@alfalafelstine15363 жыл бұрын
It doesn't help with hypothermia in any medical sense, but eventually you unlock the luck of the Irish, making you nearly invulnerable.
@ewetoo3 жыл бұрын
On the other hand a drunken man was, according to his own account, apparently in water for a time long enough that he should have got hypothermia but didn't. Possibly the drink confused his sense of time, we shall never know. There are a lot of accounts of that night that don't make sense.
@niek0243 жыл бұрын
Well, it helps in maybe dying quicker. That seems like a good idea when survival is no longer an option.
@sparkpenguin3 жыл бұрын
i think people miss that a lot of the "survival benefits" of drunkenness through trauma are psychological. not even just in the case of hypothermia. i mean if you don't.. sorta... get the gist of what i'm saying, you've never been or known someone drunk enough to not know they needed to go to the hospital until 12 hours after an injury/accident that definitely obviously, required the hospital, or in conditions un-intoxicated people find unbearable. someone mentioned meth farther up in another one of these nittypicky threads about the alcohol+trauma thing, and the same is true with that drug; people 'surviving' gunshot wounds etc just haven't gone into any kind of shock. yeah 'alcohol dilates the blood vessels' i know i know stewie said it to brian that one time like 20+y ago and everyone has actualy'd that point so much since that even people who weren't born when that episode of family guy aired say it unironically now without knowledge of this "actually" chain having such an insufferable mainstream origin. but the practice does have an origin and reasoning, alcohol and other "things that are bad for you" do help people bear traumas, like burns or the cold/certain kinds of stress, and physical pain-- if not in actuality, as far as they know. which (to a point) is all that matters. so when shit hits the fan just get shittier bc you probably got better luck, tbh. unless you're the guy who starts swinging and crying 2 beers in. *edit: i come from a family of medical professionals who are historically also hardy salty northeastern drunks, so take that how you will
@Fullchristainname3 жыл бұрын
To shed some clarity on why people acted the way they did in the evacuation, if you were in a shipwreck in late 1800 to early 1900’s you typically had wedged yourself into a reef, so you were safest on the ship until another ship came along. It was common to spend several days on a ship this way until rescue (or your ship finally broke apart on the waves). As lifeboats weren’t common, and there were never enough for everyone on board, most of the time the only way of rescue was to go hand-over-hand on a rope to another boat, which most women and children could not do. It was very common for ships to lose every single woman and child on board in the event of a wreck. Thus, space on lifeboats was often reserved for women and children first because it was the only way they could be rescued. So yeah, typically you were better off staying on the boat, and it would be a dick move to take a seat on a lifeboat if you were capable of evacuating the ship via rope, and most of the men would be more worried about their families because typically they had a very good chance of surviving a shipwreck and their wives/children had a very low chance of surviving. Most of them probably didn’t even realize that refusing a lifeboat would get them killed.
@MegCazalet Жыл бұрын
Excellent point. For example see: The wreck of the SS Atlantic in the 1870s. Every women and child save for one 13-year-old boy died. It was also a White Star Liner. The channel Part-Time Explorer has an incredibly well-made documentary about it.
@PTFVBVB3 жыл бұрын
I for one want to commend the absolute stamina that Kyle is displaying here. Legendary performance.
@Vinno12343 жыл бұрын
Bummed out they didn't talk about how the Carpathia gunned its engines faster than they had any right going and was the only ship to find survivors even though they weren't even the closest when it sank
@devinfaux69873 жыл бұрын
She was from the Cunard Line, too, White Star's big rival they talked about in the first half.
@harkonen10000003 жыл бұрын
@@devinfaux6987 They didn't cover the boiler situation on Carpathia (they were old, questionable if they would hold, and pushed to pressures above what the steam gauge could even show (the chief engineer covered it with his hat at that point ... if we die, we die sort of thing)).
@steemlenn87973 жыл бұрын
@@harkonen1000000 Wow, I had no idea. That's far braver than the musicians that are always get talked about. The Carpathian guys didn't need to risk their lives.
@johannageisel53903 жыл бұрын
Good guy Carpathia. Respect.
@xmlthegreat3 жыл бұрын
Truly one of those bringing out the best in people moments
@synthiandrakon2 жыл бұрын
the whole "women and children first" has a lot of the nobility taken out of it when you realise that like half the boats were empty as people overzealously followed the rules. husbands staying behind to die as their family is sitting there in a half empty boat being like "there is literally room get the fuck in"
@jacksonduruy43033 жыл бұрын
"Dear Italian ambassador, I'm sorry I implied those unruly immigrants were all Italians, they just looked super greasy and were all gesticulating wildly with their hands. One even yelled 'gabagool!' at me as I pushed him away from the boat, though I suppose that is a popular deli meat in other parts of the world. Forgive me for my unintentional insult of your fine county of pasta makers and dagger wielders."
@libidinalmaterialist94703 жыл бұрын
I desperately want to believe you intentionally wrote "county" XDDD
@DistractedGlobeGuy2 жыл бұрын
"Gabagool" is a Corsican-American expression. An Italian national would call it "gooba".
@theendoftheworldhasbeenqui24853 жыл бұрын
one day we will get a 12 hour episode, entirely unedited, and the hogs will rejoice
@matt-kv1nu3 жыл бұрын
Inshallah
@vienlacrose3 жыл бұрын
Inshallah
@ClaudiaNW3 жыл бұрын
3 of those hours will be Liam making increasingly graphic and uncensored threats of violence against named Republican politicians
@commiebiogirl3 жыл бұрын
consisting mostly of various slurs and creative threats
@snowdogs54323 жыл бұрын
Inshallah
@GodzThirdLeg3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what Violet Jessop did to anger the Olympic-class, but damn it must have been something serious considering all three ships tried to kill her.
@TwoWholeWorms3 жыл бұрын
Some _Final Destination_ shit right there, heh.
@dominiccasts3 жыл бұрын
well, she did live through it, while the ships died, so the better question is what did those ships do to anger her.
@DistractedGlobeGuy2 жыл бұрын
No, the ships angered Allah, but they all spared Jessop for her loyal service to them.
@kyleshape86452 жыл бұрын
Both Violet Jessop and _Titanic_ stoker Arthur John Priest were in one of the two boats that got chopped to pieces by _Britannic's_ port wing propeller. Priest served as a stoker on _Olympic_ when it collided with _HMS Hawke_ as well as _Titanic, Alcantara, Britannic, and Donegal,_ all of which sunk.
@Rand0m0bs3ss10ns2 жыл бұрын
@@kyleshape8645 5 ship incidents and Priest escapes every one. Unsinkable Stoker indeed
@ENCHANTMEN_2 жыл бұрын
James Cameron was so obsessed with the details of Titanic that after Neil DeGrasse Tyson pointed out that the stars in the night sky were incorrect for that date, he updated it for future releases
@miche1df Жыл бұрын
He made an entire 45-minute documentary to address the people who said that Jack should've gotten on the door with Rose, what an absolute Chad
@MegCazalet Жыл бұрын
And yet he still had inaccuracies . . . Margaret Brown wasn’t called “Molly” until after her death. Her true nickname was Maggie.
@Noisy_Cricket7 ай бұрын
@@miche1df and yet, Mythbusters shows he could have lol. I was freaking out about this the first time I saw the movie lol.
@endreszentgyorgyi52706 ай бұрын
@@Noisy_Cricketin perfect conditions, with prior knowledge and infinite attempts, it would have been possible for him to survive. but he shouldn’t have. because that’s his role. he is the representative of all the innocent passengers that died. they lived, they were loved, and they died in a freezing ocean in the middle of the night.
@rusted_ursa2 ай бұрын
@@endreszentgyorgyi5270Perhaps unintentionally, it also speaks to how preventable the deaths were.
@EyeMWing3 жыл бұрын
To give you an idea of exactly how fucking cold sub-freezing ocean water is, I once did a very ill advised stunt involving wading out into the 31 degree Atlantic in February. I entered wearing pants, and returned not wearing pants and had zero knowledge of this fact until I was sitting back in the car trying to get out of the wet clothes because I had *INSTANTLY* lost 100% of all feeling in my entire body.
@MesaAufenhand3 жыл бұрын
This is how mermaids legend started
@Bobbias3 жыл бұрын
Hell, I jumped into the water of Lake Huron (Georgian Bay to be precise) in mid March, once. It was of a small pier, and only maybe 15 feet off the shore. The moment I hit the water was just shock and pain, and my only thought was to get the hell out. And I'd imagine it was still quite a bit warmer than sub-freezing ocean water. I'd rather shoot myself than try my luck in the ocean.
@steemlenn87973 жыл бұрын
A Swede would call this a nice little bath in nature 😂
@Bobbias3 жыл бұрын
@@steemlenn8797 my buddy from Newfoundland had exactly 0 problems with that water temperature. For reference Newfoundland had had blizzards in the middle of June.
@flametitan1003 жыл бұрын
I have a book with the full transcript of the American Inquiry. One of these days I really need to read through it
@XanderTuron3 жыл бұрын
For maximum authenticity, this episode was split into two parts.
@grmpEqweer3 жыл бұрын
👏
@theneonexplorer2 жыл бұрын
This comment is incredible.
@kadmii2 жыл бұрын
🥁
@DistractedGlobeGuy2 жыл бұрын
Four actually: The two shorter bits in the middle disintegrated on their way down to the bottom of the server.
@SergeiGurlukovich3 жыл бұрын
I know you guys lamented the length of this episode, but holy shit was that fascinating. Props to you guys for getting through all of this.
@TiagoJoaoSilva3 жыл бұрын
They lament, we rejoice
@ryankibby24743 жыл бұрын
"at this point the lights were glowing a 'devilish red'" THE SHIP THIRSTS FOR BLOOD!
@AtomikNY8 ай бұрын
1:59:39 “If you’re down there and your sub fails, you’re being turned into chunk marinara.” “More of like a meatball.” Prescient words.
@Douglasvj Жыл бұрын
1:59:42 "if you're down there and your sub fails you're turned into chunky marinara" Spooky foreshadowing
@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes3 жыл бұрын
On the "shut up" thing- most Marconi operators knew each other an this "shut up" and "get to hell" were simply slang from the wireless operator's school.
@hambrabai12563 жыл бұрын
Apparently what Marconi company operators used as regular slang was considered the sort of rough language you had to write on notes and pass to someone during the inquiry. In that time frame, all of those Marconi operators probably trained with and knew each other so it was like a weird 1900s internet chat room.
@psychic_beth3 жыл бұрын
@@hambrabai1256 Now I'm just imagining a bunch of Marconi operators shitposting to each other
@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes3 жыл бұрын
@@hambrabai1256 Yes, I believe the operator was specifically asked in the inquiry about his use of extreme language none of them could bare to utter.
@davidegaruti25823 жыл бұрын
@@hambrabai1256 i now imagine a chatroom that is just morse code and cat whisker radios
@annafdd3 жыл бұрын
It is so heartening for an Italian living in post-Brexit Britain to know that in the midst of this orgy of stoic male heroism my place in the hierarchy of Britishness is to be mocked and considered expendable.
@TalkingSoup3 жыл бұрын
my favorite thing about both these episodes, other than the length, is that i am now aware that there's an entire community of titanic nerds out there, of which kyle is a part
@RMS_Gigantic3 жыл бұрын
Speaking from the inside, it's true. Do you wish to be guided further in? It's basically an example of that one XKCD comic about silly straws, where you'd be surprised by the inanity of things that produce big debates. The latest series of arguments have related to colors of certain items only ever photographed in black and white (Were traditionally thought to be red signs actually black? Were traditionally thought to be black pieces of machinery actually green? and so on).
@OhShitSeriously3 жыл бұрын
Isn't everyone involved with this podcast, including the audience, a more or less titanic nerd?
@Sir.Craze-3 жыл бұрын
That's what she said. I stand by this. It's been months, I'm allowed one a year.
@IvyroseGullwhacker3 жыл бұрын
Hello. Good evening. Nice to meet ya
@DistractedGlobeGuy2 жыл бұрын
@@RMS_Gigantic well if they show up as black, then they're probably not red, since red shows up brighter than other colours of equivalent value in true monochrome photography, unless a coloured filter is applied to the lense and a longer exposure is used. Pretty sure blues are the ones that show up the darkest for their respective values.
@Onychoprion273 жыл бұрын
All the people talking about how being drunk doesnt help with hypothermia: If Im gonna be dunked into the below-freezing North Sea with little to no hope of rescue, there is no way being absolutely wasted would not make that a better experience.
@spacefauna93513 жыл бұрын
I don’t think anyone would argue against it making a shit situation a better experience. I mean, if everyone is going to die of hypothermia, I’d rather go first and drunk.
@jacobvardy3 жыл бұрын
Kyle is the kind of maniac i love to listen to. Someone with a mania for a topic. And knows what they are talking about.
@steemlenn87973 жыл бұрын
Everything you never wanted to know about...
@CODMarioWarfare3 жыл бұрын
Kinda like J. Bruce Ismay
@hazel54563 жыл бұрын
guys it's called a special interest, trust me i'm autistic
@kensurrency25643 жыл бұрын
It’s refreshing to listen to someone talk about a topic with such passion.
@jacobvardy3 жыл бұрын
@@hazel5456 i'm also on the spectrum. As, i suspect, are many fans of the show. My comment was an attempt at self-deprecation and a bump for the algorithm. I didn't expect anyone to notice it.
@sweetlorikeet Жыл бұрын
Captain Rostron was a fucking legend. The crew of the Carpathia defied everything the ship was supposed to be capable of to get there as fast as possible and be as well-prepared to save people as they could. The Carpathia saved all 705 surviving people from the Titanic. Another fucking legend, who does not get enough credit in the frankly awesome story of the Carpathia, is Harold Cottam. Harold Cottam was the radio operator on the Carpathia - the only radio operator, for the ship's only radio transmitter. The Carpathia didn't maintain 24-hour radio traffic, and since Titanic started sinking in the middle of the night, Harold Cottam was off-duty. He'd left his transmitter on while he was getting ready for bed. A transmission came through from Newfoundland that gee, there sure was a big backlog of private messages waiting to get through to the Titanic. Harold, in his pajamas and desperate to go to bed, decided he'd be nice and let the Titanic know that they had messages waiting for them. That's how the Carpathia received the distress signal at all. Because he was trying to get in touch with the Titanic to let them know that Newfoundland was trying to get ahold of them on the transmittor. He was just trying to do a nice thing for some people, even though it midnight and he was off-duty, and it saved 705 lives. In the immediate aftermath of the rescue, Cottam stayed up for days on end trying to get word from the survivor's to their loved ones that they'd made it. The press hassled the hell out of him while he did this, and he reportedly received bribes worth 3 times his annual salary to stop trying to facilitate messages to families and start telling the press all the juicy details about the disaster instead. He refused. The story of their Carpathia and her crew is amazing. Those people went above and beyond, for no gain, just out of dedication to doing the best they could for other humans. They weren't first responders by trade, they were just guys working on a boat, and they saved 705 lives. I know that's not what the listeners of this podcast normally go in for, but it's worth knowing, and worth thinking about. A little more on-brand for WTYP is that how the Californian fucked up and then lied about it.
@MrMrUSMC3 жыл бұрын
I'd completely forgotten about the Kevin Costner/Whitney Houston running joke in the time between episodes, and getting to experience it again, as though for the first time, was magical.
@BlargHorff Жыл бұрын
I missing something, why did they start making that reference to begin with?
@eeple29 Жыл бұрын
@notownself Just a silly bit about replacing Leo DiCaprio, Kate Winslet, and My Heart Will Go On from the movie Titanic with Kevin Costner, Whitney Houston, and I Will Always Love You from The Bodyguard
@Tomartyr2 жыл бұрын
I love that Kyle steadfastly refused to acknowledge any jokes
@theryanbard3 жыл бұрын
Finally I get to see how this story ends, hopefully it all goes well and everyone has a nice time
@sparkpenguin3 жыл бұрын
somethin like 1100 people had a nice time for sure
@rawbebaba3 жыл бұрын
They had a very nice time
@rawbebaba3 жыл бұрын
@@EmeraldLavigne I think he had a very nice time
@youtubeisawebsite74842 жыл бұрын
regrettably, we know at what date and time they would have otherwise had a nice time
@colmmacN3 жыл бұрын
Now we need an 8 hour episode on the sinking of the Britannic, the Titanic sequel.
@AuraHero3 жыл бұрын
Problem is that Britannic didn't take nearly as long to sink.
@helloofthebeach3 жыл бұрын
I think The Asylum or another mockbuster outfit made "Titanic II" whose whole thing was "it can't possibly happen again" followed by "I can't believe it's happening again"
@michaelthomascrotch-harvey91973 жыл бұрын
Read this as an episode on the sinking of Britain and got my hopes up for a minute
@hjt0913 жыл бұрын
Well There's Your Problem: the Violet Jessop chronicles
@jamesricker39973 жыл бұрын
The Lusitania would be a better episode, it's a little more well-documented with a lot of drama
@fairguinevere6663 жыл бұрын
Apparently when I was like, 4 or 5 when Katrina was in the news I asked if dubya was responsible for the lack of life boats on the Titanic. So maybe he specifically didn't do titanic, but I was probably on the right track about useless politicians allowing disasters to be far worse than they needed to be.
@maybemablemaples21443 жыл бұрын
@@EmeraldLavigne yeah he cut the funding and even when they eventually got busses to evacuate people, they outsourced them to private companies and then those companies didn't want to go pick up people and damage their busses. So like Capitalism wins agane I guess 🤷🏿♀️
@highjumpstudios23843 жыл бұрын
Honestly shoulda pulled a British navy during Dynamo and put the busses under the control of the army or something.
@writingdog32453 жыл бұрын
I think it's interesting how much of the story of Titanic was intertwined with romantic myth of the era from the very beginning. Among other things, when SS Valencia grounded on a reef off British Columbia in 1906, all of the women and children aboard were lost. One of the most evocative stories in this period tragedy? The survivors on the only lifeboat to be successfully launched, as they were lowered, hearing the doomed passengers trapped aboard singing "Nearer, My God, to Thee." Did they actually do that? Who knows! But it seems likely that, as one of the most memorable shipwrecks of that period, it influenced the (similarly speculative) association of that hymn with RMS Titanic six years later, and of course it would go on to be an inextricable part of Titanic lore the same way Titanic completely overshadowed Valencia or the later Princess Sophia (both, obviously, sinking with far fewer souls aboard). Fantastic commentary and a fantastic guest. It's really interesting to see the disaster analyzed like any other engineering disaster, rather than as some kind of parable. Titanic looms so large in popular culture that it almost seems weird to see it contextualized as-in some sense-a disaster made inevitable by complacency rather than malfeasance, befalling a vessel that was more or less ordinary rather than a sui generis embodiment of incautious hubris. Absolutely the best episode of WTYP yet in my opinion
@chad32321323 жыл бұрын
Even the negative Victorian attitude towards people of certain ethnicities was happening here. Even as the ship was clearly sinking, it didn't stop passengers and crew from taunting the Italian passengers one last time. I'm sure it was the same deal with any Irish passengers.
@alfalafelstine15363 жыл бұрын
More podcast = more gooder.
@DistractedGlobeGuy2 жыл бұрын
The song was really more a product of Wallace Hartley specifically telling his friends that he would play it last if he ever knew he was about to die in a shipwreck. That said, the version he knew and would have played was completely different from either of the two versions played in any of the various movies based on the event, which *is* probably because of SS _Princess._
@DistractedGlobeGuy2 жыл бұрын
@@chad3232132 the Irish passengers actually had comparatively great survivorship rates by ethnicity. It was the Armenians who had it worst from a statistical standpoint.
@Ometecuhtli3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the much awaited Titanic's 2nd episode, also known as Well There's Your Stern.
@polr63113 жыл бұрын
Well There Was Your Stern
@raycearcher57943 жыл бұрын
Shake rudders with danger
@1prozzak66163 жыл бұрын
"Well I guess it wasn't an epic prank afterall"
@henrycurtis36523 жыл бұрын
nah that's what they'll call the Onlyfans spinoff
@Mclarenboy1003 жыл бұрын
Okay, I paused this second half of the podcast midway because it was so long, and fell asleep. In my slumber, I legitimately dreamt that you had dropped 24 hours more podcast material, in three episodes, in a single day, and put up a community post that said something like "Fuck it, that's all you're getting until February". Me in my dream was thrilled. And then I woke up.
@xmlthegreat3 жыл бұрын
1:15:50 I read that Yamato rolled over and created a current that pulled back most of the crewmen who had escaped the ship and were swimming away. At which point the magazine under turret 2, full of 18 inch shells, exploded in a mushroom cloud seen 100 miles away. That's the reason there's so few survivors from that ship.
@marinary13263 жыл бұрын
Yamato class WTYP episode when?
@danielkorladis78693 жыл бұрын
shipwrecks can have suction but usually only if they go down fast like that
@alexroselle3 жыл бұрын
HMS Hood was another one that sank so quickly it created a deadly suction. One of the only 3 crew who survived described having to swim against it and nearly losing to it. (Drachnifel has a whole video on the Hood sinking)
@danielkorladis78693 жыл бұрын
@@alexroselle terrifying
@xmlthegreat3 жыл бұрын
@@alexroselle I like watching Drach because his voice puts me to sleep. Downside is I have never been able to complete one of his videos.
@mattnorthup3177 Жыл бұрын
"If you're down there, and your sub fails, you're getting turned into chunky marinara"
@jamiekamihachi31353 жыл бұрын
I was so disappointed they didn’t mention the animated Titanic movies especially the one where a giant octopus saved the ship from sinking and no one died.
@TuckerWhite942 жыл бұрын
Or the sequel, where the Titanic is re-floated.
@jamiekamihachi31352 жыл бұрын
@@TuckerWhite94 and also had Atlantis in it for some reason.
@TuckerWhite942 жыл бұрын
@@jamiekamihachi3135 Which has a ban on screwdrivers. Including sentient ones.
@121borisperrons2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the magnificent italo-north korean production "the legend of Titanic", where a gang of sharks in cohoots with a whaling baron tricks the aforementioned giant octopus to drive the iceberg in the ship's path. That movie is a fever dream.
@miche1df Жыл бұрын
insufficient Italian rapping dog, 1 star, would not recommend
@Holden.Tudiks3 жыл бұрын
Listening while I frantically cook Mac and cheese at the last possible minute Update: furiously scrubbing burnt cheese off my stove top
@Rand0m0bs3ss10ns2 жыл бұрын
was any of it edible?
@Holden.Tudiks2 жыл бұрын
@@Rand0m0bs3ss10ns it came out surprisingly good, it was a lil on the greasy side tho
@sweetlorikeet Жыл бұрын
Not to 'well Actually', but as an important safety PSA: Being drunk does NOT help with hypothermia, it actually makes it SIGNIFICANTLY worse. The way alcohol effects your bloodflow may make you feel warmer but in reality catastrophically impairs your body's ability to protect itself from extreme cold. You will freeze much, much faster and with less chance of recovery if you're drunk. If you're in a situation where you're seriously cold and you think having some alcohol will warm you up, resist the urge, because it's more likely to kill you.
@robertswan24243 жыл бұрын
The Iceberg passport joke had me laughing for 20 minutes
@BrodyBear3 жыл бұрын
2:12:25 I thought you were going to say they didn't want the Olympic around because it's bloodlust might sink another ship.
@DistractedGlobeGuy2 жыл бұрын
That's what "Yamsi" was really thinking-he just put out that other story as a cover.
@THEcamobackpack3 жыл бұрын
My shock when Liam left and I saw there were still two whole hours left lol
@somebodiesheartbreak3 жыл бұрын
I need a supercut of every single one of Alice's "sure"'s, she's so precious wth
@SpeedOfTheEarth3 жыл бұрын
+++
@stiltpuppy3 жыл бұрын
we need that, and we need a supercut of Trashfuture Milo saying "that's right"
@FinetalPies Жыл бұрын
Oh no, realizing that the Titanic was the 9/11 of the 20th century has made me realize we can look forward to a certain romantic movie in 2090
@Alex-cw3rz3 жыл бұрын
A distant relative of mine was on the Titanic and he survived, he was in 3rd class and was told to go back to his cabin and he decided maybe he should leave when water started gushing in under the door, when he got on deck he eventually got to collapsible B lifeboat, but before it was launched water was already gushing round it so along with some firemen he jumped into the water and then as the lifeboat was washed overboard he grabbed onto it as it floated near the forward funnel, moments later the funnel came crashing down. After that he managed to climb in he was in waist high deep water, he describes how people were pushing people away to stop it from being overwhelmed, now he says in his witness testimony it was others, but my friend keeps telling everyone he was the one pushing people away. Oh and then after that some guy asked how many catholics were on board and all of them started saying the Lord prayer and then hail mary.
@BiggestCorvid3 жыл бұрын
Kicking/flailing your legs while seated but sliding is pretty instinctual. The kicking may have started as a reflex and ended at someone else's body. When I am losing my balance/heading while *not* standing I just sorta flail my legs and I see others do the same.. This has saved me while open water swimming / leaning back in my chair. My point is that capitalism is and was the problem.
@bananian3 жыл бұрын
I believe this was a psychology scenario. If the lifeboat you are on is too heavy and sinking, would you push the guy next to you off the boat? It's like the trolley problem except your own survival is involved.
@juanjuri61273 жыл бұрын
i would have been pushing people away and reciting the Lord's prayer simultaneously
@flaminginferno66413 жыл бұрын
@@juanjuri6127 Sacrificial Prayer? Getting Medieval here
@robotniqueee3 жыл бұрын
Sweet. What was the name of your distant relation?
@BurroDiablo3 жыл бұрын
"There's not much danger in Podcasting" and with these words Justin dooms podcasters everywhere
Titanic's wreck is incredibly spooky, especially when you factor in all the empty pairs of shoes
@danielkorladis78693 жыл бұрын
the empty pairs of shoes are very spooky
@spambot71103 жыл бұрын
never worn
@kadmii3 жыл бұрын
@@spambot7110 oh they went down to the bottom worn 😅
@Rand0m0bs3ss10ns2 жыл бұрын
@@danielkorladis7869 especially when you consider why the empty shoes are empty... passengers stuck inside the ship in air pockets were crushed by the water pressure itself as it reached the depth low enough to start crushing the ship. If you were in a space with air, as soon as the ship hit that depth, you and most things in the room met a very violent end.
@robmoney3 жыл бұрын
The Safety Third reminded me of the time the company I worked for got kicked off a site. We were working on the renovations at the Celgene complex in Summit NJ. My boss didn't give enough power to the project manger so he was forced to be there all the time so that pissed him off. He just wanted to smoke weed in the office with his partner and wife. After the foreman got a heart attack a 26 year old that the boss labeled as a "junior mechanic" took over. After completing the first phase of the renovations we were tasked in demoing old rigid pipes in the second phase. I was given this guy who the substitute foreman called "Dippy Danny" to help cut away these pipes on the second floor. The only way I saw it possible to cut them out without hitting everything as they crash to the ground was to tie some pull string on one end with Danny holding the string. Danny apparently never saw tree cutters work before and had a hard time understanding what we were doing but we never fucked shit up. One morning I asked the boss what's the best way of doing this and he said "hold on tight." An hour later two other people didn't hold on tight enough and wrecked an active sprinkler head. I was told they stood back in amazement since they never saw so much water running out a pipe before. I would have done the same thing. That day the boss had a meeting with the GC about other things about the project. We were thrown out 2 days later. Elk Electric sucked ass. They had a bunch of 3 year apprentices teaching each other.
@HelixFlame333 жыл бұрын
and now the answer to the age old question: WHY BOAT NO FLOAT!?
@jakx2ob3 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't have made it out of heavy materials.
@jakx2ob3 жыл бұрын
@UC8JEuMn7zYyQVTdbYAufIIQ make it more rigid?
@minikawildflower3 жыл бұрын
First we need to ask: what is boat
@devinfaux69873 жыл бұрын
Answer: big pokey hunk of ice
@coolmikefromcanada3 жыл бұрын
its fulla water an't it?
@matt-kv1nu3 жыл бұрын
5 hours, you guys must be loopy at the end of this I can’t wait!
@ketrakrelek23473 жыл бұрын
"we're not too far from the end" 1.20 out of 2.50 hrs lol
@DimensionO3 жыл бұрын
“Our titanic episode” was a delicious double entendre.
@joearnold68813 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the radio operator slipped while tapping the distress signal and typed CQU All Stations - Undress There were radio seamen orgies all across the North Atlantic, that night.
@esdanol Жыл бұрын
Listening to this right after the Titan implosion: 1:59:38 "if you're down there and your sub fails, you're being turned into chunky marinara". The future was foretold!
@twothreebravo3 жыл бұрын
Robert Ballard finding the Titanic was even more Cloak and Dagger than you realize. Ballard's mission was to check on two lost US nuclear subs and make sure nothing had happened to them (lost as in sunk, not disappeared, they knew about where they were). The goal was to make sure nothing had happened to them in the intervening decades, either tampering from the Soviets or catastrophic environmental damage and ultimately neither was reported. Ballard was an Oceanographer but also a Commander in the Naval Reserve so the Navy gave him this Mission to find the subs under the cover standard oceanographic research which is what the French were doing there, they had no idea what Ballard and his submersible was doing they were just studying ocean currents or something while Ballard was studying "Ocean Bottom Features" or something. Ballard struck a deal with the Navy though that after he finished up with the subs if there was still time left he wanted to go search for the Titanic. The search for the Titanic wasn't a cover story as neither of the subs was lost near where the Titanic went down so it would have been pretty odd to claim that and be in the wrong part of the ocean. Ballard had however been talking about using the submersible ALVIN to search for the Titanic for a while including as part of this voyage (hoping he would get that time) and after he did the Navy's bidding he did just that, apparently much to the surprise of the French crew. Ballard actually used what he learned about debris fields from investigating the lost nuclear subs to help him figure out the best way to attack the search for the Titanic and was able to find it almost immediately. And the rest they say is history. Shitty Schmaltzy history starring Whitney Houston and Dances With Wolves
@RazorSkinned863 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because I'm autistic but I love these ultra long episodes. The extreme detail and everything just scratches an itch for me
@DerpyPossum3 жыл бұрын
same
@matthewhowe23223 жыл бұрын
This episode is way too short for my liking, could you make the next one longer?
@dvpierce2483 жыл бұрын
I started this episode when I started cooking thanksgiving dinner. I am eating now and the episode is not over. Awesome episode; I love y’all.
@Radi0inactivity3 жыл бұрын
i would listen to an entire additional three hours episode of kyle telling the little stories of what everyone was doing as titanic sunk. they're all incredibly interesting and do so much to remind you that like Actual Human Beings Died and a lot of them.
@Taschenschieber3 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the best episodes you've done so far and taking as much time as you did was a good choice.
@SyntheticParanoia3 жыл бұрын
Never forget.
@JPR3D Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, it's fascinating to hear about the aftermath. So many Titanic documentaries basically go "And then it sank, fin."
@rawbebaba3 жыл бұрын
Cold water is no joke. I moved to Racine WI which is right on lake Michigan, 2nd straight week of warm weather me and my friend Niko decided to go to the beach, there's these long piles of boulders acting as wave breaks, we went out, only having experience in small lakes I had no idea how deep the water was or how freezing it is also when your 150 plus feet out, I told Niko not to worry I'm a great swimmer (I am). I dove in and almost immediately upon hitting the water I was shocked, felt like I exhaled as soon as I got under water, by the time I made it to the surface mind you maybe 3-5 seconds at best my arms and legs felt as though I had been swimming none stop for hours upon hours, was really having trouble making it back to the rocks, felt like I wasn't gonna make it. I was trying to tell Niko not to jump in but I couldn't speak I could hardly breath, he dives in I was struggling to pull myself up, I see he is super struggling, he wasn't a good swimmer at all he wasn't making any progress back to the rocks, I remember thinking I can't go get him, then I pushed off the rocks towards him, if people hadnt been out on those rocks to pull us out of the water when we got back I don't think either one of us would have made it out of the water that day. I felt pretty guilty for a long time knowing my first thought was I can't get him, I told him that a couple years later and his response was the best. "You feel guilty because you thought you were gonna die if you tired to save me, but swam out to save me? How the fuck does that make you feel guilty, don't be stupid, thanks for coming to get me"
@maybemablemaples21443 жыл бұрын
That was the dumbest but bravest thing I've ever read. I'm glad both of you lived to tell the tale 💯
@rawbebaba3 жыл бұрын
@@maybemablemaples2144 honestly it still doesn't feel very "brave" and for sure was dumb as fuck. I had nothing to compare the depth of that water too, and just how cold that water was still going to be. I'm just glad I did go get him, because I carried around a pretty stupid amount of guilt for a couple years knowing my first thought was well I can't keep my promise that I'll help him, can't imagine if I had punked out and not tried to get him...... I mean when I told him years later I presented it as some kind of confession. The way he laughed at me and explained how stupid I was for feeling guilty about it really did my mental state some good. I'd guess it's the kind of stupidity fueled bravery that 18-24 year olds specialize in LOL. Good news is we're both in our 30s now and we get some pretty good jokes out of it. Lol
@ebnertra0004 Жыл бұрын
Lake Superior's average water temp is 39°F (~4°C), and is painfully cold if you suddenly find yourself in it
@argillaxjinana Жыл бұрын
the lake side of the wisconsin lake michigan shore is no joke. im a very strong swimmer and ive struggled with the cold even in august. imo the true great lakes darwin test is people who try to swim in superior at any time of year :p that lake has a reputation for killing and for good reason.
@Transit_Biker3 жыл бұрын
Alice asked about the boilers: if they had not been dampened and pressure purged, it would have been catastrophic.
@williamreneau77603 жыл бұрын
Been cooking since 4 in the morning , but a new episode of Well There's Your Problem makes the cleanup feel as fast and easy as a 12,000 foot plunge to the ocean floor.
@SawedOffLaser3 жыл бұрын
Remember when two parters were like two 90 minute episodes? How far we've come.
@MrJimheeren3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Afghan tunnel episodes
@Critical_Hit3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you’d mention those awful animated Titanic movies in the section about media made about Titanic. Especially the one with the rapping dog.
@sweetprimrose3 жыл бұрын
I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE RAPPING DOG HOLY SHIT AHAHA
@highjumpstudios23843 жыл бұрын
The legend goes on.
@grmpEqweer3 жыл бұрын
HEY! let's make boats we're supposed to evacuate into in an emergency REALLY hard to deploy! BRILLIANT!
@Jorqell3 жыл бұрын
But it worked so well on paper, and in that calm daylight test done in the dock!
@oopsallquiet3 жыл бұрын
The saddest "yay liam" as he leaves to take care of business. We miss u
@miche1df2 жыл бұрын
To add a bit of detail re: CQD, "CQ" as the "all stations" signal is actually an anglicization of the French "sécu", which is short for "sécurité" (meaning "safety"), so it could be understood as "safety information for all stations"
@MrJohndoakes2 жыл бұрын
People in ham (amateur) radio think CQ is an onomatopoeia for "Seek You." After "Titanic" ship radios switched over to the Q-code system, but SOS works very well in Morse Code.
@sarapocorn3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for filling the void that is my life with that many hours of content
@CatherineA1333 жыл бұрын
I’m happy I’m not the only one. I play this podcast in the background when I work to pretend I still work in person with happy, flippant, yet respectful people hah. Fuck Covid.
@sarapocorn3 жыл бұрын
@@CatherineA133 My heart goes out to you, home office has its benefits, but if it‘s full time with no clear end in sight, it sucks. Hoping this helps though, you are not alone. edit: lol cases are rising rapidly here in Switzerland. we have an important referendum this Sunday but I‘m pretty sure we‘ll go into yet another lockdown after that‘s through. God I wish people would just get vaccinated.
@killerbee.133 жыл бұрын
Regarding the significant size difference between the American and French flags on the Knorr, it's actually standard and correct. Flags are not all the same shape, even though 2:3 (like the French flag) is very common, there are many flags in other ratios like 3:4 or 1:2. The US flag's proportion is, in fact, 10:19. So if you keep the height the same, the US flag will be significantly wider than many European flags. I'm not sure why it's so wide, though. Seems to have been that way from the beginning. Maybe it's because longer flags look better when hung vertically as banners and they didn't want two designs? Of course, only the government itself actually has to use flags in the ratio of 10:19, most flags produced commercially are in other ratios like 2:3, 5:8, or 3:5.
@TrashHeapCustodian3 жыл бұрын
This episode is so long I forgot crucial details from the first half, but I'm not going back for em. they're lost to time, like tears in rain
@Thelllusionist6 ай бұрын
2:12:50 - I appreciate that this is an epic enough video, but I kind of wish that you had spent more time discussing the heroism of the Carpathia and their crew. They said they'd be there in 4 hours, but actually arrived in about 3.5 hours, having travelled at their absolute maximum, all-boilers-running speed the whole way, dodging more icebergs of their own. They turned off their own heating to make sure there more steam was going to the engines, and had passengers converting the ballroom into a triage hospital. They arrived about an hour and a half after the Titanic sank, but still managed to rescue ~700 survivors, spending 4 hours combing through the darkness with boats and torches. They were the ONLY ship to rescue survivors. Captain Arthur Rostron literally jumped out of bed, determined to move heaven and earth and everything in between, to save lives - his crew are the true heroes of the story.
@jplay97103 жыл бұрын
> [California crew] tried to defend Californian's actions by saying that there were other ships in Titanic's vicinity... Ah yes, the byfloater effect.
@flinko992 жыл бұрын
it's not their fault the rich people boat got nuked
@jamespocelinko1043 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: RMS Carpathia was sunk in WW1 after being torpedoed three times
@flametitan1003 жыл бұрын
_AND_ she took a surprisingly long time to sink after those torpedo shots. She was as tough as she was fearless
@MikonyaanGurevich2 жыл бұрын
IIRC the Germans deliberately targeted her specifically because of her historical significance to demoralize the British
@zachjordan7608 Жыл бұрын
this is old but another fun fact: the team who found carpathia's wreck were financed by somebody mentioned in this episode, clive cussler
@sholem_bond2 жыл бұрын
the ship's location at the time of its sinking is the second time Captain Smith's estimates/calculations have been off; the real cause of the Titanic sinking was the fact that nobody was checking this guy's math
@gbrading3 жыл бұрын
My sole claim to Titanic fame is that my cousin once removed is a direct descendant of 5th Officer Harold Lowe (of anti-Italian racism fame, but also being the only officer to go back to try and rescue people from the water). I believe my cousin unveiled some sort of plaque about him in his home-town in Wales. Oh, and I was once in the same room as Millvina Dean. Looking forward to the HMHS Britannic episode!
@luxborealis Жыл бұрын
No Italians were rescued by Lowe, but in his defence there are also no accounts of him shooting any surviving Italians in the sea.
@davidlathrop93603 жыл бұрын
The Titanic has been a part of my life since I was very, very young. I still have my newspaper from when it was found. But when I stood in front of an actual section of the hull at a touring exhibit, I realized: what he said is right, it's the sheer amount of human stories around it that shapes the tale.
@livinglikeananimal3 жыл бұрын
I am genuinely surprised there wasn't a mention of the hilariously infamous animated Titanic movies. There's the one with the rapping dog that everyone with an interest in bad movies knows about, and then there's the one where a giant, creepy octopus with a dog face rescues the ship and everyone on it, and both films are Italian.
@TiagoJoaoSilva3 жыл бұрын
That's Episode 3, Return of the Smith
@DerpyPossum3 жыл бұрын
it’s the Italians’ revenge for their mistreatment on the real ship lol.
@haphazardlark15023 жыл бұрын
The gaps and faint music and dead air in the edited in intro had me laughing harder than it had any right to. Off to a good start already!
@warmachine58353 жыл бұрын
Pay attention to the safety cards, maps, and demonstrations. They may save your life when you... shake hands with danger.
@mrpieceofwork3 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned: Pump enough CO2 into the atmosphere so the temps rise and the icebergs melt faster
@benyardley3183 жыл бұрын
Being a crew member on the Titanic, and when someone asks me if they can get in the lifeboat I go, "I don't know, *can* you?"
@Man2quilla2 жыл бұрын
I saw a video about the Andrea Doria and learned that the number of divers who have died exploring the wreck is around half the number of people who died in the actual sinking
@PopsicleDoodles3 жыл бұрын
really not too bothered by ridiculously long eps, but honestly maybe next time a big topic like this is selected the gang should just go in with the intention of splitting it into a miniseries from the start, both for ease of listening and editing, but also so then the recording session could be broken up too? like, this could easily have become a 3 to 5 ep thing and also no one involved in the making of it would've come out feeling like death 😬
@jhuisenga6022 Жыл бұрын
I recommend they keep half assing it. Don't change anything. PS, fuck you Liam.
@michweid67953 жыл бұрын
You guys should do the Edmund FitzGerald sinking.
@frank68423 жыл бұрын
Yesss
@oscodains3 жыл бұрын
It fits with many episode of just how the system set up the Fitz up for it’s sinking. Everything went wrong in just the tight way.
@jorgeluz95603 жыл бұрын
And they should invite Caitlin from Ask a Mortician to join :D
@laurenm31482 жыл бұрын
1:25:13 "It's absolutely a libel on him." "Yeah." I dry heaved in laughter
@AdzSONLINE Жыл бұрын
1:59:37 That foreshadowing though
@deepestphathums3 жыл бұрын
Finally! I can't wait to find out what happens to the big boat
@DerpyPossum3 жыл бұрын
one word: *soggy*
@rebeccahoyle7374 Жыл бұрын
back here to see the comment at 1:59:40 about sub failure
@davidwright71933 жыл бұрын
The idea of cruise ships really started in the 1920’s when liners would on the days between scheduled sailings sail out of New York 12 miles and open the bars to allow the passengers to get thoroughly and legally pissed.
@ClaudiaNW3 жыл бұрын
So... not only was Prohibition bad in its own right, it also gave us cruise ships? Damn.
@TheSaberWolfDuchess Жыл бұрын
"If you're down there and your sub fails, you're turning into chunky marinara." Lines that aged poorly #37
@robertminnis65403 жыл бұрын
I'll say it again: next Halloween, Jurassic Park Episode
@ebolapie3 жыл бұрын
1:19:13 - "We're getting not too far from the end" 2:52:04 - The End
@williamadams78653 жыл бұрын
I work in an engineering related environment, several hours of WTYP playing in the background is the perfect addition. Now for the thrilling conclusion!
@WingsStrings3 жыл бұрын
shoutout to the weird bootleg animated titanic movie with the rapping schnauzer that broke my brain
@TuckerWhite942 жыл бұрын
Or the other animated Titanic movie where some sharks trick an octopus into throwing an iceberg into the ship's path, to help a Bond villain attain whaling rights (yes, this is real). Or the other, OTHER Titanic film where the main couple from the first film stumble upon Atlantis.