Wendy Williams is a Cautionary Tale

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[@cassandrabarrett2526]

Kids are not stupid. They see how unhappy their parents are. Staying together for the kids is just an excuse for codependency like you said. Absolutely.

[@atomicx9158]

Yep. I knew someone who told his parents to divorce. Took them both the hell out. And, I know a number of gay men who came out and when they told the kids it was *shrugs*. They knew before Mom.

[@tlowery2074]

Haven’t we learned that staying together is, and will always be worse for your kids?

[@emmadilemma7800]

Say this! I always hated the "stay for the kids" narrative, it is so toxic for children. I grew up with my parents arguing and fighting pretty much everyday, i couldnt stand it.

[@lrs1519]

Tell us again!!! Call a thing a thing.

[@cassandrabarrett2526]

Like I remember being at most confused about why my parents weren’t together as a child but I really preferred that over the alternative I would hear about from my friends at school. I was like “you could keep that, my parents don’t even speak lmao” and they felt pitty on ME for having divorced parents. I can’t imagine having to deal with all the other bs I dealt WOTH as a kid ON TOP OF my parents fighting every day? No thank you

[@chrrislowe9919]

Excuse me? Being a good talker IS 1000% a skill lmao. They tried it

[@atomicx9158]

Right. Oprah made literal billions talking.

[@champagneprincess4]

fr. anxiety is the highest mental illness there is. majority of those people have an issue TALKING TO REAL LIFE PEOPLE. lmao. it’s a skill

[@chrrislowe9919]

@@champagneprincess4 as someone who talks for work, I’m a host and moderator, I was personally offended, had to correct that real quick 😂

[@chrrislowe9919]

@@atomicx9158 I’m saying! I talk for work as well so I was like HOL UP ✋🏽😂

Yes it is

[@user-kx2vw8xe5h]

You better repeat that PSA .... “Having no man is better than having a bad man”

[@kitchenskills5427]

I don't get how having a horrible, abusive male in the house is better for her son than having divorced parents?

[@quickpstuts412]

@@kitchenskills5427 It's that ingrained notion of "needing a man" that ruins so many women's lives. I think they convince themselves it's going to get better and it never does.

[@cutienerdgirl]

@@quickpstuts412 So many cultures also tell women to stay with their abusive/toxic husbands for the sake of public appearances, the good of their children, and their religious views. Though, no child wants to go home to parents that resent each other and most holy books just state that divorce is allowed as long as the people that were married don't get married again.

[@quickpstuts412]

@@cutienerdgirl Facts!

[@soakupthenoise]

having no man opens up space to find a good man

[@Mizanthrobe]

Isn’t public speaking what Obama was best known for? Being a good talker is definitely a great skill, I have a hard time putting things that are in my mind, into words. So I just marvel at people that have the gift of gab, so to speak.

[@tonidiane6153]

I am the same way! I cannot put my thoughts into words on the spot. I have to sit down and write it all out and that takes time so I usually don't even bother. These folks are talented for sure.

[@davehart2094]

Im bad on the spot, i have very bad anxiety, but its not to good for public speaking.

[@wschippr1]

Yes, Obama was one of the best orators in American Presidential history. Granted, his recent comparisons were Trump, Biden, Bush, and Clinton...

[@cynthialashawnchannel]

Facts! Being able to put your thoughts together and convey a message eloquently is not easy.

[@wschippr1]

@Pat A. Okay

[@BostonChattanooga]

COME THRRUUUUH with that “Evening News” fit 👏🏾👏🏾

[@deet3646]

Right she even got the evening news jacket too with it!!! Hahaha I love it

[@robertstanley9633]

She is giving us lewks henny!

[@syds8752]

I can’t with y’all lol

[@Alexandtheworld919]

L

[@elizabethevenson6110]

@@deet3646 TRUFAX.

[@davonncollie5337]

You touched on a good point: can we get into the psychology on why successful Black women at that time chose their husbands to be their managers? I think it has to do with allowing him to feel like he has some type of control, so he does not feel “esmasculated” (which I can not stand that theory) but I think it would be a great discussion.

[@brownandabroad4865]

yes, he needs something to do. And if he aint got his on thing...

[@SuburbanKween]

I believe it. Mary said that's why she hired Kendu as her manager.

[@jrr7031]

I dont understand. I dont give a damn rats ass if I had the baddest B for a wife.....or HOW she feels! Im not about to let someone who thinks getting a bag is the end goal...manage my finances. I wouldn't marry 1 like that anyway from jump.

[@Amour680]

Agreed

[@Social_Pugatory]

He better stay at home and take care of house and pick up a hobby. We not mixing money and honey 😂

[@lilmakori]

Ok Wendy's husband having a WHOLE DOUBLE LIFE is the reason why you should never take back someone who cheats.

[@emmadilemma7800]

When they said he was with that girl for 16 years, i was like sis that sounds like a sister wife. Thats longer than most marriages.

[@tlowery2074]

The clownery... how do you still “love” someone enough to sacrifice your dignity after that?

[@zipporah7085]

The crazy thing is men try to defend it and say men get bored and just want sex but most of their infidelity is another relationship not a fling

[@miospio]

@@zipporah7085 I never thought of it that way...

[@chanelmapendo3761]

@@zipporah7085 Literally!!!! They really think we're stupid.

[@bbrown333]

Public Speaking is DEFINITELY a skill. Clearly, it's a talent because not many do it well.

[@ChibiKawaii3]

Exactly. It wouldn't be a class if it was easy!

[@phenitagomes1292]

Like trump

[@ParentalDiscretionIsAdvised]

@@ChibiKawaii3 HELLO! Speech, Public Speaking, Oral Interpretation....(to name a few classes) it ALL does WONDERS!

[@tlowery2074]

Wendy let Kevin take her for all she’s worth, in every way. She may be her own best friend but she’s also been her own worst enemy for most of her life. Who would let their best friend stay with some trash, career sabotaging dude for two decades?

[@Silly_u1908]

Well in her defense her parents have groomed her to be in an emotionally abusive relationship. Their constant nitpicking and criticism of her personality and weight combined with bullying as a child has caused her to isolate herself and to not trust others. She couldn’t find emotional and mental protection in her own home so it’s not a surprise that she fell in love with the protection (control) Kelvin offered her.

[@tlowery2074]

@@Silly_u1908 of course. I don’t blame her for her trauma informed responses. But at the same time, Wendy is GROWN and has been grown and grownups needs to take responsibility for their own well being and not play the martyr with excuses like “for my son” especially bc that’s an awful one. And my point is also that it’s sad she didn’t have the wherewithal to trust anyone’s opinion above her own heavily internalized issues after watching this play out for years and choosing to stay with a grown man for two decades who had shown in every which way over time that he was not sh-t.

[@gabrielar9611]

@@tlowery2074 not everyone can just “get over” their trauma. Regardless of age. Kudos to you for having an iron clad personality and being above influence of your past. For some people it takes a long time to do that. It’s mentally implanted in your mind that your less then, when you’ve been abused. It looks like Wendy just never did the work as far as therapy. Plenty of ppl lead messed up lives till the end of their days like this.... btw I don’t like Wendy, but I won’t write her off by just saying she should “get over it”

[@tlowery2074]

@@gabrielar9611 I’m not saying she should get over it. As a person who has spent years in therapy working through trauma, I definitely under it takes time, resources, etc. I’m simply stating that adults are responsible for their own well-being.

[@reighbow2]

Amen! The past bullying caused her to look for a knight to save her. The problem was he wasn't protecting her he was using her

[@SD-hs2pk]

I never understood how shaming = caring. I don't shame who I care about!

[@heathertea2704]

Chuurrrch!!!!!

[@anonymousone9699]

Tell that to 80s 90s parents

[@SD-hs2pk]

@@anonymousone9699 🤣 good one actually. But that's definitely toxic.

[@denisewilliams2818]

Wendy hasn’t processed her trauma, but instead tried to prove those who doubted her wrong. I noticed she kept saying “I’ll show them” in the movie.

[@harlemw651]

💯

[@nikbrantley9798]

Preach!!

[@virgoqueen8950]

@bigpink pencil VERY TOXIC

[@Cissy09]

This morning on TBC Charlemagne said Wendy still suffers from trauma and she made Kevin look better than what he was. Kevin use to call Wendy a fat Bitch on the regular and physically abuse her. She is still trying to protect him, when all he did was use her. Also, I don't understand why you would hire a P.I. if you are not going to leave.

[@WhoCares3001]

She had zero issue leaving her first husband who was the polar opposite of Kelvin. She even brags about. I truly believe she was codependent on Kelvin. Even before they had a kid he cheated. She could've left. I know people who worked at WBLS when she was there and always had stories about him routinely disrespecting her.

[@Cissy09]

@Im.Like.You. Just.Different She knew about Sherina for 12 years, and still had no plans to leave. If she was going to use anything as evidence in a divorce, she would have did that 15 years ago when Kevin's sex tape was circulating with that stripper.

[@uchewb3]

It’s difficult for victims to leave abusers. She probably hired the PI as a future incentive to herself. “If I involve someone else, they’ll know, giving me more pressure to leave” It didnt work, but trying to use others to find external motivation instead of internal is a thing ppl do all the time

[@UrbanDecayLova247]

I definitely think Wendy was codependent and almost trauma bonded with Kevin especially over those miscarriages and her stillborn. Whew! That’s a lot to deal with, and seeing that Wendy does isolate herself from people it seems there probably wasn’t anyone she felt she had outside of Kevin.

[@caliboyrob]

She's protecting her son not Kevin. Even though her child is grown now she still wants to shield him from further trauma

[@Chanel_Number5]

Yes that interview is ICONIC!! The fact the Whitney never hung up on Wendy...The way they both said I love you at the end😂

[@onlychimerically]

she goes to therapy every monday at 3pm :) also if you're reading this (i.e. a human being) GO GET THERAPY because YOU DESERVE IT !

[@Ravensvue]

Yes we all could use a bit of therapy because most of us are damaged from childhood. As they say, it doesn't come with a book. Most of us have some type of childhood trauma.

[@bonniestar7583]

I started yesterday :)

[@robertcanada5106]

You got some money because I will gladly go.

[@onlychimerically]

@@robertcanada5106 you are a powerful creator being more than capable of attracting either the money you need to go to therapy or the resources that make it either affordable for your budget or free. depends on how much you want it. best of luck!

[@navigategoodluck9069]

Dr. Honda?

[@thegoreetruth1074]

Wendy's parents were traaaaash for the way that they treated her as a child. I was fully expecting them to come on and say that they regretted how they treated her back then. But when they came on smiling about it, and her mother said, "look at how good she looks now," I was just SHOCKED and saddened for her. It also made me understand a little more why she may not have attended her mother's funeral. There is probably some deep trauma that she is holding on to. For a lifetime movie though, I though it was good. That salt and pepa mess was absolutely atrocious in every way.

[@KM-yv3tr]

She actually attended, her brother lied. She left early with her kid because there was drama apparently.

[@emmadilemma7800]

I couldnt deal with her parents, i understand where shes coming from now. I was thinking when they talked about her weight issues, they would express regrets but nope. Im not a fan of putting kids on a diet, teaching kids healthy eating and exercise is fine but i dont think kids should be on strict diets. I thought Wendys young photos were adorable, she was a cute girl.

[@tlowery2074]

They really skated over the fact that they wanted to starve a first grader and that she developed bulimia. Like ???

[@thegoreetruth1074]

@@KM-yv3tr Oh really? That's good to know, thank you for sharing! It seems like they got a lot going on in that family. I hope that she's able to find peace.

[@zipporah7085]

Right like she looks good now because of liposuction and tummy tucks. I also wondered if Wendy was actually overweight or just bigger than her peers, she's always been tall.

[@sapphicmorena5791]

Say it louder for the people in the back: having a bad man is INFINITELY worse than having no man. Amen, amen.

[@SherrellMooreTucker]

It’s a classic scenario of being a public success and a private failure. When we compartmentalize things it’s so easy to do. She honed skills that supported her life’s purpose but didn’t seem to do any inner work for supporting relationships or anything outside of her work. Great commentary Kimberly👍🏾

[@evelynmahoney3992]

mp p.l

[@evelynmahoney3992]

wendy was wishing her marriage would work knowin her son was ready to leave. she was afraid of the unknown. give her credit for still standin because she certainly divorced him on her time.n he was left with his mouth open thinkin it would never happen not to him. he was a fool now he will play this woman. he was with this woman because he could do it....no repercussions. she admired Kevin for protectin her..she mistook that for love.Kevin complained abt no physical contact with Wendy espec afta the miscarriages. Wendy basically accepted Kevin without the sex ...he went elsewhere.she settled until he couldn't keep it on the downlow.then it became embarrassing..she was forced to end it..the child came n woke Wendy up.then she realized it's so much more. Kevin would hav never divorced her. why? he had both worlds..he had it all . . ..

[@asktheglutenfreechef3072]

Yessssss

[@rachel3760]

Being articulate is absolutely a skill!!

[@sugarpearl9781]

“A little cheating, that’s fine.” *blinks in confusion* I’m sorry ma’am what? A man who cheats directly after you give birth is not a man worth keeping. Edit: “Having a bad man is infinitely worse than having no man!” A whole word!

[@Silly_u1908]

Unfortunately I know where Wendy is coming from. There’s some of us that teach our children that is better to be in a bad relationship than not to have a man at all. I’m assuming Wendy’s mom may have inadvertently taught her that when she demonized her for her appearance and possibly praised her when she was married to Kevin. I’m sure Wendy would want her parents acceptance over their criticism so that could be one reason she stayed outside of desiring his love, affection, protection (control), and the desire to protect her son. It’s tragic.

[@ivy.interlude]

He didn't even wait until after labor, he did it while she was pregnant. In the movie I recall his character saying something abt her high risk pregnancy was hard on him too so he "needed someone to talk to" 😬😬

[@mimio008]

I disagree with you. You and I may not understand that position, but it doesn't mean that she's wrong. I've slowly come to the conclusion that no partner is gonna be perfect. We should just take someone whose faults we can put up with. It may be that the person is not great with money, or communication, or... sexual monogamy... I really don't think that a cheater is necessarily the worst person to be with. It all depends on what the other person needs and wants. Personally I couldn't take it, but I won't judge somebody who feels like they can.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

@@mimio008 Betrayal is not imperfection, it’s damaging behavior.

[@anne853]

@Lamar Nealy I like a kind, loving, loyal average man. That's actually not average to me. That's far above average. But I'm assuming you're talking about financially average.

[@shuns.102]

Crazy thing is Wendy was a beautiful woman. She didn’t need big implants nor any alterations to her face. More than likely she would have grown out of her chubbiness because she is like 6ft tall. Those parents did a number on her and I got the sense they wanted their family to be a reflection of their white neighbors.

[@nataliaswan6284]

Absolutely imagine was their era smh and they was colorist 2 Wanda the darkest was most successful out siblings emotionally stable even personal life.

[@heathertea2704]

EXACTLY!

[@shuns.102]

@bigpink pencil well, in some cases parents do need to get kids diets under control if obese. However, I think it was more to fit the part of a skinny white girl. If she wasn’t unhealthy and a closet eater or something. I believe weight wise she would’ve been fine. It’s a way to address kids weight without being a bully. My aunt was the same way with my cousin as a kid and their relationship is like a love hate type of thing and really has affected my cousin as a 40 yr old adult.

[@shannond1511]

@@nataliaswan6284 huh?

[@SuperUsernameization]

"Mental wellness is the best revenge; peace of mind is the best revenge." True, indeed.

[@kimm9273]

Yes black women please stop marrying the help

[@zarario4444]

Kelly Rowland married the help!

[@lrs1519]

Whew gawd

[@helenauambembe9700]

Thank you

[@jessicab331]

@@zarario4444 lol What that mean?

[@MJAYMONONOKE]

@Jessica B. She also married a manager. I don’t if he’s her manager per se, but from what I could find he is a talent manager. (Kelvin was Wendy’s manager)

[@jhalaby1]

“Fat phobia is ruining lives. It’s structural, not just interpersonal.” Yup.

[@jhalaby1]

“Peace of mind is the best revenge.” Put that on a tee...I’ll buy that merch!

[@jhalaby1]

@@maddfinn11 and fat phobia cures heart disease?

[@jhalaby1]

No matter what you’re shaming, shaming has never ever ever had a positive outcome. Never.

[@Callimo]

I will agree with you that bullying someone because of their body size does ruin lives, BUT, rampant obesity kills far more efficiently and frequently. Also, applying "fat phobia" to everything kills people by discouraging them from choosing healthier options for their bodies. We only have ONE body, no replacements, and true body positivity is doing the best for your ONE body and for yourself.

[@MoInTheCity03]

@@maddfinn11 your just the kind of person that will Fuck up your kids lives.

[@tonidiane6153]

When you said something like "if your childhood is messed up, your whole life will be messed up" whew! I was triggered. My childhood was awful with my bipolar mother after my oldest brother had taken his life. Parents divorced and didn't even get along. Here I am at 35 and still cannot figure out how to get my shit together. Lawd, am I stuck like this forever?! I have a son too and I worry that I'm screwing his life up bc I can't get my own together.

[@Cinamonshinybutt]

I feel you . I hope that you will find the balance that you need to live your life at it best . And And yeah it can be difficult with kids because they always see more than what the parents think ... I think the most important thing (and maybe what will have helped me when I was a kid) is communication . Never try to hide or cancel other people feelings.

[@f3042]

I mean this with all love and sincerity- therapy does WONDERS. The right therapist will help push you in the right direction. 💙💜💙💜

[@christinet6336]

Toni... First, get therapy. A good therapist can definitely help. Second, subscribe to a meditation app and force yourself to do it daily, even if it's only for 5 minutes. It will help clear your mind and focus on the roots of whatever ails you. The mental clarity you glean from meditation can be eye-opening! I use an app called "Ten Percent Happier." You can either use their basic free guided meditation (what I use) or pay for their subscription. Another good one is Headspace (I like Ten Percent Happier better because it's less frilly - lol). Finally, know that all negative emotions, behavior and thought are fear and pain-based. Every time you feel, think or behave negatively what you are really saying is that you are fearful of being in some kind of pain (emotional or physical). This is also eye-opening and will help you get to the root of almost all of the pain in your life... and with this knowledge, you will slowly start to heal! Trust me. All of these things work. lol Good luck, my dear. Namaste. ;-)

[@SwissMissss]

All. Of. This.

[@MyWorld-xw6ic]

We have similar childhoods. Bipolar mom, just met my dad, trying to get my life together. 😕

[@lindaschultz7900]

An abused woman is conditioned to meet abusive men when raised by narcissistic/abusive parents. We don't know what real love is.

[@MF-xg1tf]

"A little cheating" is still cheating. Should not be okay LOL

[@kawaiikokutan7686]

She's not saying it's oka she's saying you can still save the relationship it isn't always the end.

[@wafflesmomforlife9215]

My heart breaks for Wendy. Sadly, I truly believe that if Kelvin's affair had not gotten so public, she would have still been with him. She also is not dealing with her alcoholism, which at this point, is her main problem. She is using it to cope with a lot of hurt and pain. I hope she gets the help she needs, I honestly wish her well.

[@ianbrundige9069]

"Wendy is a rich text"

[@glipgloppapi9959]

Damn, when Kim said talking publicly about what you’re going through is not therapy, I think I needed to hear 🤭

[@tlowery2074]

OK !

[@Artbunny87]

Exactly! Folks need to go to therapy!!

[@ShesAbsurd]

I love a villain too Kim lol. Black women are expected to be morally upright all the time!

[@SwissMissss]

🙌🏿

[@ShesAbsurd]

@@SwissMissss like I can’t be good all the time lol. I need a break

[@tlowery2074]

Honestly... Wendy shows our ability to be multi faceted lol

[@ea7109]

@@ShesAbsurd 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ShesAbsurd]

@@tlowery2074 very much so! Like any other human

[@Juiceharlot]

Get y'all a partner like Dolly Parton got. Carl be in the back for YEARS.

[@misslori9725]

They have an open marriage, and her husband has cheated several times. I guess you never heard the song Jolene...

[@katdeluxy9608]

That’s not true . Jolene is a made up song . Not to say that her husband hasn’t cheated on her but it’s not public

[@numbernine3436]

So true

[@Juiceharlot]

@@misslori9725 "open marriage" and "cheating" you can't cheat someone in an" open marriage" that's why it's open... words have meanings and didn't kim say "a little cheating is okay." Dolly has told like 50 different stories about who "Jolene" is sometimes she is a pretty bank teller, other times she is just some pretty woman. And also my point was Carl is in the back he ain't her manager having extra marital children on her.

[@MARCIE12ification]

@@Juiceharlot really!?

[@aquamini4940]

I absolutely admire people who can “talk” because I can’t. I have a very hard time articulating my thoughts. I’m scared to speak up and state my opinion so I like those people who can talk about anything and be open and speak their minds. I love Wendy. Period.

[@MelonBrews]

This! Speaking well is ABSOLUTELY a skill. I would give anything to be a great orator.

[@lorelange]

I am in kind of the same situation, I talk to myself too much, so I when I need to speak up, my voice is very low and words come out not good. However, even though I admire the art of a skilled speaker, I dont just like them cause they have a skill that I admire, what they talk about is more important, and honestly I think it should. Cause that's how we end up with grifters, sellouts, liars still in office and in our lives. they keep us hopefull, we get disappointed and go online complaining. Cause they are really good at talking but doing what they talk about.

[@bailezabailez]

Yeah, I'm finishing out my last year of medical school. People are commonly unimpressed with my communication skills and then see my accomplishments on paper and are like "Oh! she's smart!" Being eloquent, especially when your upbringing doesn't demand it, is not a natural skill. it takes practice

[@quickpstuts412]

Same. But I'm a helluva writer. lol

[@killlamas57]

This documentary fermented for me why I don’t agree with this notion from many women that “I’m a successful dominant woman in the workplace so I like to submit to my man when I go home”. You are skating on thin ice girl. What part of independent woman do you not understand? Kevin became Wendy’s emotional crutch. She succumbed to him and look what he did to her for 20 years.

[@WorldofDaisyFlowers]

Being a good talker is a skill. It's the highest paid skill in the world 🤣🤣🤣

[@IamMoniqueWhite]

A “little cheat or two” become full-blown double lives. 🙄 #issanoforme

[@msmiami212]

And Kim co-signs this!

[@courtneygilbert852]

It’s never a one off thing. It can escalate real fast.

[@chanelmapendo3761]

They be saying this and then they gon come crying after their cheating ass partner comes with the announcement of the side baby....... Couldn't be me!

[@jasminecrawford42]

@@chanelmapendo3761 If they not bringing the STDS 😬.

[@makebacunningham6795]

I remember Wendy talking about her mom was a Socialite and she cared about appearances and how much this affected her childhood

[@danisacademiccorner4493]

Mental wellness and peace of mind is the best revenge!

[@BlackDiamond-rj1ov]

Exactly

[@kimberlyrussell3111]

Wendy was desperate to be married and stay married. I could see that long before this documentary. Wendy always mentioned bring “Mrs. Hunter” on her show. She’s one of those women, regardless of the generation, thinks having a ring and a Mrs. and a status symbol.

[@tlowery2074]

And that it’s her job to stroke her mans ego and make sure he always feels included and important

[@joshuamcdowell9745]

She mostly stayed for her son.

[@AngelaRochelle]

That Wendy/Whitney interview was iconic

[@prettybags5010]

Girl, I was agreeing with everything until you said a little cheating is ok. No ma’am Pam, lol!

[@daniellegeorge4526]

It's not never is.

[@soccergoth131]

Yeah I was very caught off guard like I know Kim ain’t settling for that I feel like she may have been joking lol

[@msmiami212]

@@soccergoth131 I don’t think it’s a joke 😬 it’s pretty concerning!

[@rodrigokels24]

@Lamar Nealy what do you look like?

[@rodrigokels24]

@Lamar Nealy y’all adore coming to a black woman’s platform to try to tear them down. And faceless yourself at that!

[@afrinique3000]

I heard this lady once say "I'd rather be in a bed by myself than be with a man and still feel alone!" I said WORD!!!!

[@razmiddle9410]

"Having a bad man (or woman) is infinitely bad than having no man (or woman)" **Say it again for the people in the back**

[@ashinkledinkle]

I grew up listening to Wendy on the radio. I remember one time she had Kevin on her show. Even as a CHILD I knew just from listening to him speak that he was a scumbag. He's the definition of you can judge a book by its cover. I really hope that Wendy gets therapy because if a child can sense this man is no good how couldn't a grown woman not see the writings on the wall. He was able to make money off her trauma and low self-esteem.

[@lrs1519]

You know even in pictures he looked like an asshole. He’s all in the camera on every picture, his smile is even sinister.

[@AJ-cq5pw]

Systemic fatphobia and anti-fat bias is negatively affecting all of us and I wish people would see that. People are always like "well I'm fatphobic because I'm concerned for your health" if you're so concerned about peoples health you would consider the fact that mental health is also important, if not more important and fat shaming people and making them feel less than because of their bodies doesn't exactly help anyone's mental health. Please set aside your toxic healthism.

[@reallyitsjackiev.meadows7578]

I wonder if the lack of attention from Family and nurturing......she found in Kelvin....and that is why she fell in so deeply...

[@brownandabroad4865]

it is

[@MARCIE12ification]

Yes

[@WhoCares3001]

I've never understood Wendy's obsession with "hood guys" (her words). Wendy isn't even Gen X, she's a boomer and grew up in an upper middle class family. She grew up with people we read about in history books at her family dinner table. I know she always talked about wanting to rebel against her family's expectations of her but she picked Kelvin? A bummy criminal from the streets? She had zero issue leaving her first husband who was the polar opposite of Kelvin.

[@WhoCares3001]

@Hanna A No. That isn't it with Wendy. And please drop this notion that suburbs are unaffected and produces naive people easily taken advantage of. Wendy has always been scheming and calculating and proud of it! She used to openly mocked her siings for going the route of their parents. She openly looks down on people who grew up in the hood. All this while admitting she "likes bad boys."

[@WhoCares3001]

And I only mention her age because we all know having upper middle class household is a rarity for someone her age. Her parents were born during the 20s and became professors and members of every black elite social group. They fled Asbury Park, which was a black upper set community at the time, for Ocean Township. Her parents were embarrassed by her going into radio as they saw entertainment as low brow. It was only when she made a TV career they became proud of her. I say all this to say, maybe she tried so hard to be the black sheep that she held onto Kelvin because maybe she didn't want to admit he was a mistake?

[@WhoCares3001]

@A rose is a roseGirl this is all stuff Wendy has said a million times on radio. And again, I have good friends who worked with her/knew her. Wendy rebranded for TV. So if you're not from our neck of the woods you may not know these things but its all pretty much public knowledge.

[@WhoCares3001]

@A rose is a rose Girl this is all stuff Wendy has said a million times on radio. And again, I have good friends who worked with her/knew her. Wendy rebranded for TV. So if you're not from our neck of the woods you may not know these things but its all pretty much public knowledge.

[@WhoCares3001]

@Hanna A Sis Wendy used to be in and out of Long Branch as a teen. She navigated the hood, NY media, and more lol. Ice always admired gow crafty she is. Again, what you're describing doesn't fit her narrative. She has black girl friends who share her upbringing so she never had the pressures of being around hood girls. Like I said, she always mentions her friends and sister married well and she was the black sheep.

[@kourtnaydaigs5492]

I don’t believe Wendy chose to be isolated. A huge part of her radio personality was gossip and as I’ve heard from other bloggers, it’s hard to make friends especially with industry people. They wouldn’t be able to speak freely around her.

[@UrbanDecayLova247]

Ehhh nah I think she made that choice when she was very young that she would be her own best friend to be honest. We have a couple people in a similar lane as Wendy nowadays but they still have friends 🤷🏾‍♀️...I can see that when she was younger and up and coming, but once she got her talk show I don’t see why she wouldn’t be able to have friends especially seeing that Wendy has said on her show she has many acquaintances by choice.

[@lisamoore9931]

Agreed

[@egyptianqueen4007]

What about her childhood friend Regina that she always talks about?

[@mademoisellecalixte339]

She needs to befriend regular people.

[@conflictpersona8]

@@UrbanDecayLova247 are those genuine friends or acquaintances bc theres a difference in reference to the pll in similar lanes as wendys bc a lot of celebrities can relate to that level of loneliness like what she said isnt this raritie its being made out to be bc you hear all the time these ppl have tons of ppl around them but are they genuine

[@Micha63857]

I respect Wendy but I still feel she is not mentally well, she needs help...still. 22 years of bad marriage does not go away in a year or so. I hope she gets the help.

[@SaltWataDawta_]

Girl I said the same thing about bringing these raggedy men in as your managers. We have seen it time and time again, they do nothing but wreak havoc on your lives.

[@brownandabroad4865]

did y'all not hear hear say, no he never hit me, I feel down and broke my arm. Why are people glossing over this?

[@angeliaimeanttoloveyouharr8404]

Right...that’s what I heard her say on the documentary

[@jenkinscourtney11gmailcom]

@@angeliaimeanttoloveyouharr8404 She is still protecting him after all he has done to her. She is blaming her son for staying with Kevin Sr. She is addicted to pain and suffering. A man who don't have anything to lose will make you lose it all.

[@quickpstuts412]

Right. He probably pushed her. SMH She's still defending him. If she had fallen on her own she would have just told us like she tells us the rest of her issues.

[@ThatGirlMoi]

28:34 "Are you co-dependent?" 30:15 "Having a bad man is INFINITELY worse than having no man" Co-dependency is so dangerous! I'm so glad I got out of my last codependent relationship. It was to a bad man for me too.🙏🏾😭 Find the signs and be careful people!! It can really hold a person back especially if the relationship is destructive

[@ohawk82]

Right! “Being a talker IS a skill.”

[@brittanymitchell7358]

Tamar Braxton’s mom told her, “If you’re not ready to do anything about your husband cheating, let him cheat in peace!”

[@helena4440]

I know Wendy's problematic (including VERY transphobic, like you said) but she holds a very special place in my heart. I'm trans, same height as her, was a fat kid, am a journalist, obsessed with pop culture, her mother reminded me a lot of my own, am always told I'm "too much". Again not excusing Wendy's problematic behaviours, but she's very special to me 🥺

[@nishashawn2021]

I agree. Women like this have value as well. Wendy represents so many women I know, those who go against the grain of what society says a woman should be...

[@eeep4968]

If this were a man y'all would be canceling him left, right, and center why not do the same for women? She's a terrible person.

[@ashleyb.8217]

Continue to be you doll. Those who are supposed to get it Will!

[@krenee984]

“People make bad choices when they are lonely.” (My exact thoughts on Megan thee Stallion.)

[@FromMikaWithLove]

This the comment right here 💯

[@daniellemacgregor6848]

@@FromMikaWithLove Right!!!

[@swilson6170]

What bad choices of Meg's are you referencing out of curiosity?

[@Goldentoast77]

True tea.

[@4tha99n2oo0z]

I think she was trying to say " dealing with a man like Tory : was a bad choice...and I agree. HE WAS TOXIC AF WAYYY b4 Meg. Her grief probably blinded her

[@leagavin2]

Absolutely right! In that documentary was an eye opener about mental health. Especially, how very transparent she was about Kevin. She worked for hers and I respect that, but she is suffering. But your right if a man mess you up like that ....... I don’t want it.

[@meg143562]

“Mental wellness is the best revenge!”

[@atomicx9158]

I do not care for Wendy Williams at all and don't understand the love so many gay men have for her. She's so homophobic and was awful when she was on the radio. Well, maybe I do, since the ones who love her tend to be bitchy and extremely messy themselves. Anyway, she's certainly good at what she does, I guess. Now, while I don't actually care about Wendy, your commentary was fire and so on point. You're so right on the fucked up childhoods part. My parents weren't perfect, but I'm so glad for the stability and sanity they raised us in. I've met so many people who are stuck in the cycle of reliving hellish childhoods in their adult relationships, unable to break free or make different choices.

[@carlac9782]

Idk. I just find all this kind of messiness is a vexation to my spirit. I just can't. My mom watched Wendy Williams. When I would hear her voice on the tv I would not enter the room.

[@jrr7031]

Easy, i know how. Poor people's love for vicarious living.

[@MARCIE12ification]

@@jrr7031 true.

[@MARCIE12ification]

It a shame that gays mens love her she don't like they're at all.

[@scottrogue946]

I found this to be very confusing as well. I can’t stand her and she has said some vile things to get where she is. All this she is getting she deserved honestly.

[@scorpiusjones5436]

Totally off topic: I'm so excited about your KZbin partnership! I just saw you on the video talking about the partnership on Twitter. So cool to see people you follow for years finally get some dang acknowledgement! Please continue to soar!

[@TheloveofBleu]

She does say on her show that she goes to therapy and she loves her therapist. She goes twice a week and the therapist signed a NDA.

[@luckyxxxxk]

Even if the therapist didn’t sign an NDA, there’s a rule of ethics they have to follow to not tell anyone their patients business they can lose their license. But there is an exception to the rule when it involves a danger to themselves or others.

[@rylandforprez]

When he came in late with that Rolex and she said in the documentary “STUFF IS STUFF” it definitely confirmed for me that she is not satisfied...amongst other MAJOR flags.

[@bgoodwyn]

Wendy has stated in promotional interviews for the movie and documentary that she is in therapy now. Also, I believe the documentary was filmed relatively soon after her divorce was finalized. So, that's probably why she was breaking down so much. I don't know if we would have gotten the same content if it had been filmed more recently and she probably knew that. Like you state, she is very attune to what makes good content.

[@tlowery2074]

The wounds seemed super fresh in the doc like how she’d randomly burst into tears. I assume she realized she could capitalize on the moment, especially knowing she was going to have to pay alimony...

[@nightingaleofficial3604]

She took responsibility in the very beginning when she said this wasn’t what she wanted but she created circumstances that brought her to this point.

[@maxyneschaw7040]

I was literally just talking with my husband the other day about the glory that was the Whitney Houston interviews of the 2000s..."Show me the receipts!"

[@f3042]

@SameSameButDifferent ! YEEEEEEP!

[@Myaccount923]

@SameSameButDifferent ! yes😂😂

[@kindred42]

I forgot that where the origins of where are there receipts come from 🤣. So funny yet so tragic.....

[@leahg1424]

@SameSameButDifferent ! Yep. This was in response to her being asked about crack addiction. Classic, but tragic at the same time.

[@dariusd2003]

You made me cackle in this office about that Wendell comment Lmao.. 🤣😂 The queens court was good old fun.

[@DominiqueSaltH2OWife]

RIGHT ! 😁👊

[@iamlaurengill]

Wendy Wendell Bartholomew Rufus Williams!

[@KM-yv3tr]

@@iamlaurengill It's been updated, she got more governments on her now. TS is a mess when it comes to Wendy😂😂😂

[@robertstanley9633]

I find myself rewatching Queens Court for a good ol laugh 😂 #everymanwantsawoman

[@helenauambembe9700]

"have a bad man is infinitely worse than having no man" Yass Kim Thank you

[@wistfulwriter7]

"Mental wellness is the best revenge." DAMN KIM! YES!

[@yy-hj4br]

"I have a good man." NO YOU DONT, WENDY

[@ashleyb.8217]

I said this too...

[@Thisreadingcorner]

The number of times you said leave men alone 💀I’m absolutely okay with the mistress being dragged - public actions result in public consequences and she was flaunting her married boyfriend of a famous woman 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@prettynikky2097]

She did name the singer that sexually assaulted her, she did it a few weeks ago on her show. I can’t remember it right off the rip, since I’d never heard of him before. But he’s since passed away and his widow responded to Wendy’s allegations.

[@EvolvingMama_]

Sherrick 🤭

[@msbrit5178]

Wendy interview with Judge Mathis was extreme. He got her together and pulled her apart too. The Whitney interview showed that Whitney don’t play games.

[@Cissy09]

Yaaaaasssss, Judge Mathis played no games. He was with all the shits and wanted all the smoke.

[@shezadoll85]

I'm dying! 🤣😭 How you get somebody together AND pull them apart?! That's exactly what he did though.

[@mermaidtingzzz]

Finna find that and watch, never seen it before. But I saw another person say it was Judge Joe Brown 🤣🤣🤣 now Judge Mathis makes more sense!

[@Cissy09]

@@mermaidtingzzz No, it was Judge Mathis.

[@melaniesheldon8013]

I always loved Judge Mathis. ❤ 🤍 💙 🧡 🖤

[@lulubell6440]

"good white man, thank you!" took me the fuck out

[@thickbrownlegs1859]

The one good thing was that Kelvin he got Wendy off the coke 🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️. And that interview put Wendy on the map even more, that interview was everything, living in Brooklyn at the time that was on everyone’s lips.

[@ThatPrettyGirlMeOT]

I’ve been on cocaine and I find it very very extremely hard to believe that she got off of it in four days just off the strength of love

[@nervous_greenfish]

Evening news anchor full stop 💕🌱

[@im19ice3]

kim i know you're not gonna have kids but i'd still like to say you have one high quality mom voice like i'm feeling indirectly nurtured over here from u scolding wendy in good faith lol

[@domination6585]

What video did she say she wasn’t having kids? Did she say why? I’m very curious to hear

[@im19ice3]

@@domination6585 she's mentioned it more than once, i dont precisely remember but it usually comes up in the videos about like dating and marriage, she had more than one reason but mostly the usual ones like the world is shit, and its a lot of responsibility and she's very career-oriented, and a child deserves full commitment from a parent, she doesnt want to deal with the biological pressure of time etc i may be wrong tho! consider asking her on twitter or smthn i dont think she'd mind

[@egyptianqueen4007]

@@im19ice3 I agree with her. Why anyone in their right mind would want to brings kids into this insane world is baffling to me.

[@beagirl7031]

16:44 Most "old school" type of parents don't know how bad their parenting style is😥

[@MrDomonique3]

They really don't

[@rockfantasy8]

"do u think that the children don't know?" THEY KNOW! YES THEY KNOW! Growing up in a family with two amazingly loving parents but really not in love with eachother, i knew from the beginning. Both me and my sister knew from a very very young age (8-9 max for me, 5-6 max for my sister). Children understand EVERYTHING, they are not stupid! And the notion of "oh well, i'm staying in my marriage because of my children" is the worst! When a relationship is over is over, and the children can tell! AND, they will feel guilty af when they grow up and realise that their parents are in this mess because of them (they are not in this mess because of the children, but that's what the children would think... trust me, i know).

[@RachelSeun]

Brilliant commentary on Wendy’s documentary. Didn’t know how impactful and successful radio Wendy was until watching the documentary yet seeing her constantly break down about being lonely was definitely an eye opener that you can’t idolise anyone’s situation/success. Her trauma is unhealed and she is clearly not over her marriage from Kevin.

[@angeliaimeanttoloveyouharr8404]

Yelp...all what you said👏🏾👏🏾

[@3dom2026]

Let me tell you shes a cancer like my mother that is there MO, cry to get others to feel sorry for them. No emotional strength and HUGHE manipulators ,don't feel sorry for someone who made it a financial living to SPREAD NEGATIVITY -they always get their KARMA harder then when they gave the hate out.

[@sugarpearl9781]

@@3dom2026 Damn I’m a cancer and this made me feel a type of way lol I’m joking, there are definitely emotional manipulators out there who will use their tears to their own advantage.

[@mmathulosejake]

"They are so isolated because all they have is a man." Inner core shooketh!

[@opalrhue9032]

I didn’t think Whitney was strung out during that interview..I think that was the REAL Whitney. Those comebacks and that shade was too epic.

[@quickpstuts412]

Facts!

[@scottrogue946]

She was from Jersey she got a slick tongue that’s all.

[@joshuamcdowell9745]

Whitney was hood. People don't realize that.

[@katdeluxy9608]

Being a good speaker and communicator is the best skill anyone can have.

[@EvolvingMama_]

Yeah I busted out laughing when I saw Charlemagne. They did him so wrong 🤣

[@kyra5295]

I definitely feel like Kevin was beating her ass. The way she responded when asked if he was ever physically abusive does not sit well with me. I wish her all the best on the new journey of hers. I do think that she’s doing the work of finding self love n worth.

[@sassy312]

Wendy Williams been making moves since the 90's. She didn't just pop out when she got her tv show, she was grinding and putting in work, getting celebrity interviews and working on the radio. Check out some youtube videos of her back in the 90's, and she wasn't ugly at all lol. She is a BEAST and good at her job being a celebrity personality, meaning she has the gift of gab and will tell your business lol. Even though that thug of a husband damn near ruined her, she managed to maintain, hopefully. The movie was very telling, which we shouldn't be surprised by cause if your gonna tell everybody's business, then tell your own too.

[@CherieButler]

Being a good talker...is the most prized of all soft skills...and for good reason.

[@DominiqueSaltH2OWife]

Wendy Williams, a national treasure. Thank you for covering, I was waiting for this ❤

[@drtash21]

Loving the versatility in looks recently. Serving us 60's Beach Babe Kim, College Student Kim, and now Newsanchor Kim in the space of one week lol Love it, love it all!!

[@tosomt5419]

the interview with judge mathis where her roasted the SHIT out of Wendy in even better...it's on YT, too

[@alexisgarcia1344]

Thank you for sharing your insights through Wendy's experience. On a personal note, I am very careful who and what I listen to concerning relationships. I find when you listen to the mess, it begins to shape your perspective and color your current experiences. Well done!!

[@tanishagreen4330]

That Whitney interview with Wendy...we talked about it for years. Wendy being on the radio in NYC most of my mid 20s and 30s, my gawd. that was an era!

[@SophieBot5000]

I’m a performer and I’m so thankful for my man. He’s so content to help me get ready for shows and then watch me work. He’ll carry my bags, help me into my costumes, pull my boots up my legs, check me for threads, give his input when I ask, and respect my autonomy as an artist. So thankful to have found someone who doesn’t have any desire to insert himself into my business.

[@juicyparsons]

"real retrograde" is such a perfect way to describe so many people lol

[@KM-yv3tr]

Guys, I know yall are used to Kim being an advocate & speaking up for black women vigorously but yall gotta chill with the negative/spicy comments. This was a more lighthearted video compared to others. ITS NOT THAT DEEP. Seriously though, not everything has to be an intellectual discussion or a political conversation. Sometimes, we just wanna be lil messy & have a ki. Do your thing Kim, great video! Keep your chin up. ❤️

[@judithortiz-velazquez4992]

The “little cheating” resulted in the double life Kevin led. I do know of women and men who have stayed with their spouse after infidelity. The return to the relationship is a tough journey for both. Why, after the effort to stay, they remain when, obviously, it is not a good idea happens more than it should.

[@coreysmith733]

No one does what Wendy does, the way she does it.

[@reyrey7775]

I’m introverted. Talking is a skill - trust me. Because I don’t have it.

[@dollface9639]

The Whitney and Wendy interview is classic Jersey girls messiness coming from another Jersey girl lol.

[@ANg-zl3us]

I see bigger things for you I can feel it through my body you got this 🙌🏿🙌🏿

[@jonglejuice]

Kelvin really was fucking up deals for her. People will ALWAYS choose to work with second best talent who is easy to work with over the best talent who is difficult to work with. Period.

[@f3042]

@25:20 “...HAS HIS OWN CAREER”! *DING DING DING* Doug is a very successful man; he has no reason to get involved in his wife’s affairs. The difference is Kamala wasn’t foolish enough to tie herself to a man who wasn’t successful in his own right! She’s the “What have you done for me lately” type of woman; those women rarely get screwed financially! Someone with the same mentality who isn’t necessarily focused on a career: Marjorie Harvey. Point is, whether you want to be a housewife or focus on building a thriving career, you do not align yourself with a man who has to depend on you. Money isn’t everything, but your love and companionship shouldn’t be given at a discount. These men will make you finance the side chick if they can! 👀