This is why I rebuild engines myself ( no remans )

Getting the 9620t engine done, test driving wit catastrophic failure.

[@karlhiggins5765]

Glad you have a video diary. Back in the early 90's, I bought a reman engine. Put it in and it ran like crap. Turns out the didn't put head gaskets on either side. It took 6 months to get half my money back. I was done with remans then and forever. Good luck.

[@ks_1111]

How the fuck does a guy miss head gaskets ? Thats like taking a dump and forgetting to wipe your ass.

[@carsons6519]

I always pull cat piston packs out and check the rings install liners and then drop pistons.....because that one I found was missing the compression rings only had the oil control ring.....had I put them in complete that would have sucked big time.

[@jimmybritt9537]

All that money and this is the crap ya have to work with , at least it was documented 🤔👍👍🇺🇸

[@hellbringer09]

part of the reason warren started taking videos i believe. youtube was a blessing and a curse on top of it.

[@Gustav4]

10 seconds after he says, "get the hood on a tell'em to come get it" "oho oho, lost all my power" hilarious

[@rongrose3746]

All I can say is UNBELIEVABLE!!

[@dmaxdan]

The 7 dislikes are the JD employees who assembled the motor.....

[@jeffo881]

bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[@garthalexander241]

Make that 9 now lol

[@jonka1]

Not sure they would have the technical skill and that much control of their hands to click that tiny thumb down.

[@junior4969]

Thats a gold comment

[@mikemcclead8797]

Right lmao

[@roadsideservice2406]

That was the craziest thriller movie I’ve ever watched this year, Good luck Warren I wish you the best

[@ronchappel4812]

Hahaha.I was thinking similar.This is better than stephen king

[@peterverkon3893]

Wow. Your calmness is amazing. I would have a complete meltdown. Warren you are a hell of a patient and hard working man.

[@roadsideservice2406]

Bloody amazing I would say

[@gtibruce]

Patience comes from being a mechanic!

[@martinderoche7555]

Warren, i can’t believe how calm you are when you saw them bent valves. I would have started laughing and then cursed my way into a song. I wish I could send you a pallet full of patience and courage. Keep your head up bud

[@bill3641]

What a waste of your time and talent after all the problems with the old engine . You did however just record a great ad for John Deere's reman program .

[@whotknots]

I like that you are accompanied by your dogs as often as possible and the patient kindness with which you consistently treat them Warren. As the old saying goes you can generally trust a dog who doesn't like a person but you can't generally trust a person who doesn't like dogs.

[@rdecoster1]

That baby started right up and sounded beautiful! UN-F-ING BELIEVABLE........I wonder if the shop that rebuilds these keeps log books on who does what? At least it wasn't raining!!!

[@davidholder3207]

Keep a log of who does what, with which and when!!! Common man it doesn't equate to equality if you measure one persons performance against themselves or another or a standard. Welcome to todays woke world. This is not just a JD problem either.

[@cluckhead1913]

Even if they did, those logs would just get pencil whipped. The people who get these rebuild jobs from JD are the lowest bidders and are under pressure to do the job fast. They probably put more time into painting it and making look nice than anything else.

[@freebird1ification]

they never do

[@hdj81Vlimited]

@@cluckhead1913 yes they even painted the turbo.........

[@rodmaclean6862]

These engines that you don't strip and build your self Warren are just throwing together. Just make you wonder.

[@Peter-V_00]

A WTF moment for sure, proof truth is stranger than fiction.

[@kennethkaczypenski6224]

Good thing he recorded it!

[@snapon666]

and the customer is always going to wonder if its your fault even though YOU know you did it right but at least with these vids you have proof !

[@blowinkk9396]

especially when one thing after the other keeps happening even tho NONE of it is Warrens fault. There will always be someone wondering if its his fault somehow

[@PatChapp]

I doubt it, most farmers are pretty mechanically inclined. If Warren shows them they'll understand

[@Slugg-O]

My guess is Warren has a pretty damn good reputation among the farmers, and since farmers know cow shit when they see it I'm betting somebody is going to bend JD over on this one.

[@fuhrstpuhl3278]

Tractor is cursed....I feel for you Warren, engine assembler obviously needed more sensitivity training...

[@peteparker7396]

Man oh man,,,, I’d like to say this is a first for Deere, but we had a motor come apart in a brand new cotton stripper, it was under warranty. They put a reman in it, same thing, cam gear came off. We were in the middle of harvest. I’ll give Deere credit, they made it right with us. Sent out a brand new machine until ours was fixed, both times. Which ours was new. Didn’t charge us a dime and took care of us the entire time. They put a new engine in it the second time, not a reman. We traded the POS as soon as harvest was done.

[@farming4g]

Great to have a camera with to catch it all! Dang....

[@trumpetman2006]

Bummer. I hope you still get paid for everything not your fault.

[@jamesanderson2176]

Here irony for you: At 42:00, just as you were looking over the cam grenade, KZbin played a John Deere commercial!

[@danmackintosh6325]

As if it letting go seconds after Warren said about throwing the hood on and telling the owner to come get it wasn't cruel irony enough! At least I didn't get the ad!

[@supporterofeverythingyouli6255]

I had state farm... lol

[@zstation64]

Oh Deere. Walking home again. 😂

[@roadsideservice2406]

Love it

[@ronchappel4812]

nothing walks like a deere? 😂😂

[@Rx7man]

I used to make Ford jokes, but I guess I'll have to make deere jokes now

[@GOLTURBO555]

@@Rx7man Mazda either

[@86lowrider]

Happens way way more than it should that’s a fact. Makes you wonder if there’s any quality control left in any of these work places.

[@martinharper5112]

Good vid Warrren. Excellent job. We have 2 6610r JD at work. Both had new front axles last year under guarantee. And now both have front UJ drive unit fails. You couldn't write it.

[@joshuabilodeau2547]

I've put in two "reman" complete Deere engines and both have had cam problems. One spun a cam bushing 4 hours after it was installed and the other the cam gear was loose from the factory. Rebuilt multiple Deere engines and never had an issue.

[@misterhipster9509]

JD Green, not what it once was, follows the country as it is going into the shitter. On the other hand maybe it's a reman by a contractor, the kind where they have competitive bids for contracts, cheaper isn't better.

[@EFCasual]

It's definitely a contractor shop. Which isn't to say it isn't deere's fault, because it is.

[@themalewhale59]

I said this months ago, JD need to take hold of this shit show themselves and take the customer out of the problem by giving him a loaner. They need to pay you TODAY Warren for all your time and the consumables, tow all their shit out of your yard and do their dirty washing in private. JD sales must take a hit every time a potential buyer sees this debacle. A JD boss man must be screaming “get this horror story off KZbin NOW” at whoever has been managing this process. Reputational damage to the brand is enormous.

[@thelol1759]

They don’t care, we’re the only ones watching. JD is making money hand over fist. They’re too busy lobbying against people like Warren’s right to repair in congress.

[@jamesdiehl8690]

The only people who don't make mistakes are the ones who don't do anything!

[@EFCasual]

I liked that test drive camera and chat.

[@Gustav4]

Holyshit haha! was waiting for that headline of the video to show it self, and damn did it came at the perfect time! tell Deere to watch this video 33:33

[@ve6hdh992]

At 18:02 Warren asked the big question. "Going to Blow? Or What!" He must be psychic.

[@MrMitchellw16]

Strike two comes at 26:13, "Look at the whole engine shaking and everything, it's amazing any of that crap stays together" JD: hold my beer and my gear

[@Rx7man]

@@MrMitchellw16 The real curse was at 33:33

[@CJE2007.5]

33:49 you here the pop. Shitty deal. To me the only thing worse than a re man is a politician.

[@willietheron5842]

From South Africa Warren big respect for you .

[@petewood2350]

Thank God you were Videoing it.

[@LtColDaddy71]

Back when I’d work on other people’s stuff I’d put some Jasper engines in for a few people and it worked out great. Swapped out many of them. I kept shelves full of 6.0 and 6.4 diesel parts also.

[@BlindBatG34]

None of the overhead fasteners have paint marks on them! If the rebuilder didn’t put in the minimal effort to mark the fasteners they torqued what other corners were cut? Something tells me JD is going to bend over backwards to make this right otherwise this video is going to cost them a lot of business.

[@paulbugden8573]

ffs mate that's all you need when you are snow under with work

[@gregreitan3634]

Cheese & rice. What a shit show! I feel for you.

[@DieselRamcharger]

when the cam broke the valves stayed open. the pistons shoved the valves up hard enough to snap the rocker shaft retainer bolts.. thats a powdered metal camshaft. bet you breakfast.

[@duanescott5399]

Ohhh JD aint going to be happy having people see how shit their reman is. That tractor is cursed lol

[@jamesedwards7241]

No excuse for that, just simple lazy don't give a shit workmanship back along the supply chain, the only saving grace is you did your job, then went over it again to make sure so the question is do you take a supplied reman engine to pieces and rebuild it yourself before you dare use it simply because they cannot be bothered to bench test them at the source. may just as well rebuild them yourself if that's the case.

[@roadsideservice2406]

Never noticed the funny faces, but always enjoyed the chat

[@gerardmccarthy2432]

Are these factory reman or an authorized rebuilder for john deere. I remember Fred Jones in the 90s working forn ford that did reman long and short blocks. Some were ok but youd get burnt on a few. of course service manager would first point to mechanic fault. pain in the hole for the parts dept to warranty out with Fred Jones. Shit show all round. Itll be another 2 months with the finger pointing.

[@rexrockwell1517]

A very expensive failure. All that work for naught. Love your KZbin channel !

[@mikeznel6048]

Good job deere. Maybe made in mexico isn't worth the money savings and profits... I don't know how those people sleep at night knowing they are getting rich off the misery they cause people... Where was that motor done Warren?

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

Mexico

[@mikeznel6048]

@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Sad ain't it Warren? Our poor country... Keep your head up bud, at least you're doing your part... Those big "Cummins" that come out of there are junk too. American manufacturing was always the best because we paid our employees right amd in return the employees did good work. That cam gear issue, definitely seems like a mix of terrible engineering to save steps and money and then lack of attention to detail with the reman assembly.

[@mikeznel6048]

@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 They're all laughing at us too. Selling us junk and screwing us over and keeping the good stuff they make for themselves. They're living the life of luxury off our misery and the tards who govern us are paying them to do it. I pray everyday our country goes back to normal.

[@hartparr30]

Wtf unbelievable it's time for jd to make this right

[@korvtm]

Had my fill of reman engines long before I retired. Several thngs come to mind.First one was way back in 1958.We put a so called reman engine in a Army tank,real bear to work on.ren about twenty minutes then fried it's self.Several other stories I could tell,but will only mention one more.Friend of mine put REMAN engine in a forklift.Engine had no oil pressure,after a while he found the problem,during cleaning process an allen plug in a oil passage had to be removed.It was never reinstalled,engine was reassembled paper work showed proper tests were done.Paperwork was pencil whipped.

[@TYSuggested]

What an absolute clusterfuck. You can't make this shit up. I feel like you should leave this thing on the side of the road and let JD fix this mess themselves.

[@charlesmccormick4443]

When companies design equipment with EVERYTHING they can dream up an add on , to extract every penny they can bleed out of farmers , what would you expect to happen ? Did the older tractors need all that crap to operate every day ?

[@retiredtraffic12]

W O W , all that work for nothing. Owner should SUE JD for lost income and money. That’s enough to drive someone to DRINKING !!!

[@jerrycann6374]

I don't drive anything I cannot fix myself.

[@Rx7man]

yup, that's why I drive old 12V dodges.. besides the fact that I can fix them myself, the inline 6's leave you some room to actually do it

[@fuhrstpuhl3278]

I would put their freakin core engine in a 50 gal barrel and give them 24 hrs to get it off your property.....

[@chipps1066]

godam right after i got compensated.

[@thomaskirkpatrick4031]

That is rather disheartening, a brand new reman, didn't last an hour. I hate to ask this, but is there a follow-up video?

[@markmelzer3383]

That has to be one of the strangest things I have seen in awhile. Good luck buddy hope Deere will stand behind it

[@mchl8]

They have no choice in addition to the transport bill for getting the thing back to the shop. That thing didn't run 2 hrs. Now this ties up the farmer too. He's got ground to turn. Put a Pronto on this.

[@mccujo03]

31:45 we’ve all made that little laugh. Love it

[@robgood7948]

Wow. As a retired John Deere heavy equipment mechanic (41 years), I’ve never seen a failure like that. I preferred to do my engine rebuilds. The problem was that we couldn’t compete with difference in price between in house rebuilds vs reman prices. Before remans came along I would do about 6 to 8 complete rebuilds a year. I really missed doing the rebuilds. The Deere V 8 diesel was always an interesting experience.

[@Ollie603]

What a shit situation, who ever sent that engine needs to take the whole damn tractor back and make it right for you and the farmer. Makes us all look like idiots.

[@bigkenny93]

All that work for nothing. Makes you sick to your stomach. Smdh.

[@wotnoturbo]

You couldn't write this sh1t, unreal !

[@daleolson3506]

Wow what a shame. Deer should really be embarrassed,what a disaster.

[@f.almeida1185]

WTF!!!!!!!

[@richardlincoln8438]

At least You have it all filmed, it's going to be hard for them to shift blame on this mess. It's fortunate that it happened before You sent it out to the customer. Thanks for sharing Warren. Best Wishes.

[@robertp7209]

They always try to blame others, as if it’s not possible since “factory reman”. But it can be others, sometimes.

[@richardlincoln8438]

@@robertp7209 i have come to understand that the "factory reman" is most often done by outside contractors at the lowest bid.

[@robertp7209]

@@richardlincoln8438 - true, however the reman specifications are developed by JD engineers, including QA/QC requirements all in the contract. At least that’s how it should be. The reman contractor may be a major operation not just for JD motors, so it’s possible they have their own internal specifications. And in this particular case, they probably just take it back and send another to JD. It may also be possible though they agree to reimburse an experienced mechanic like Warren to do the rebuild - but then the warranty is by Warren.

[@grumpyg9350]

I've had a couple of those Dunfur engines before.

[@tomgluth4254]

Argh ! After all that work. What a suck !

[@jaysonstoy3645]

Nothing worse than having to call a customer and explaining to them that you just destroyed their brandy new rebuild motor. Then they think you did something wrong. At least you have video proof for both the customer and the rebuilder. We all know you do great work. But all humans make mistakes. That is just an expensive oops. The rebuilder better pay for all your time,,,, in and out. If they stand behind there rebuild work 💰 💰 that is all you can ask at this time...... I'm sure you had some choice words edited out of this video I would have!!!!!!!!

[@TyphoonVstrom]

Warren didn't destroy anything, it came apart tooling down the road under very little load.

[@jaysonstoy3645]

Yes,,,,, I know that Warren did nothing wrong. Most of the time that is why he does most rebuilds in house. Try explaining that to most customers especially the ones that have ground to work up with said piece of equipment. I have turned wrench for many years Also. Getting money for hours worked for warranty claims is also a pain in the butt alot of times. Not many companies just want to hand money out.

[@johnbarber5280]

All your hard work putting the engine back in, what a waste of effort, everyone is a loser when you have shoddy reconditioned engines supplied "as new" I bet the owner is upset, I am surprised how calm you were, great channel, like your work, don't let it get to you.

[@samuel_towle]

Deere John, truly living off of your old reputation, and ruining it. That was engine number three or four? Going to run out of engines before this tractor hits the field again.

[@samuel_towle]

Makes you wonder if just maybe Deere is trying to ruin the reputation of independent repair shops by giving out reman grenades?

[@scrotiemcbogerballs8286]

Wow that’s a mess buddy I hope they make it right with you just wow I’m speechless I feel ya buddy there’s so many people who comment on videos that have no idea about what’s being talked about or anything like that heck I’ve probably done it myself but I’ve seen some people say really really stupid stuff that if they had one ounce of common sense they would understand sorry for the rant take care buddy love the videos you are one great mechanic and person god bless

[@unknownunseen8321]

I want to know what the owner had to say

[@roadsideservice2406]

I love all the comments I’ve read every single one. only one that gave the thumbs down was John Deere and the dealership

[@FixItStupid]

Right

[@revenniaga6249]

I do not get it? I have seen enough remans fail on videos, Why do they not bench test every reman for 30 mins before shipping? Great video!

[@unmountablebootvolume]

He floored it in the yard for quite a few minutes, and it ran perfectly. It blew up 8 miles later...

[@andreasrotter2280]

The last two reman engines I bought had breakdowns within the first hour of running. One was a Mercedes industrial engine with all the cam bearings destroyed and the other was a small Kubota with a head gasket failure. So I’m done with reman engines as well

[@raycollington4310]

At least John Deere gave this engine a good paint job. The tosser responsible for this mess should be banned from ever touching a spanner ever again.

[@stephenb549]

Totally feel your frustration. The amount of aggravation caused by a failure of this nature is massive. And you still feel responsible in some way, even though its not your fault ! The re-man company will want to do an investigation and try to blame the mechanic...as usual ! I've worked as a truck mechanic in the UK for 30 years and this kind of S**T boils my piss... !The re-man company do give a toss about all the labour and downtime that's been wasted. Anyway good luck and keep the good uploads coming.

[@tectalabyss]

Well that really sucks Sir. Why I have always done my own work,for the last 60 years. You though I would trust. But not the people around where I live. Liked,shared. All my very best.

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

Good morning, Warren! Camera looks great, man. Thanks for the video. God Bless.

[@charlesr.9414]

Arent, you glad you have video!

[@briandoerner2620]

You've Got to be Kidding me! Jezuz

[@danielclark8036]

Keep us posted. love you work but man I feel for you. It's always a twitchy time when you first start a rebuild. But jeez commercial rebuilds shouldn't be like this.

[@bolla1369]

👎👎👎Controlli qualità 😳😳😳come in italia🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@sbowden60]

By the way, do you guys not have the Lemon Law? as much trouble and documentation you have on this machine, John Deere needs to eat crow and replace the whole tractor...#JohnDeere @John Deere

[@stuartlockwood9645]

My heart goes out to you Warren, this is a clusterfuck, no way would you expect this to happen, if that's finger trouble from the engine builders, those guys need firing, my guess , and it's only a guess is cam timing when out for whatever reason , pistons hit valves , loaded up rocker shaft , and bust rocker shaft clamp bolts, but it's only a guess, whatever I'm hurting for ya Warren on this one, give em hell mate, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart.uk

[@gwbuilder5779]

You are not crazy Warren. 1988 was the last time I used a reman engine in anything. There use to be a couple of good good engine rebuilders in Spokane who warranteed their work, but that was 35 years ago. This is an absolute disaster for Deere, they owe this man a new machine without question. Three engines and this one didn't even make it into the field. When it first shut off I thought maybe the fuel shut-off solenoid failed or came unplugged, but a broken cam will definitely shut off the fuel pump. So much for just plugging a wire back in. What a nightmare for this owner. On the other hand I know a fantastic mechanic that will fix this whole mess the right way! Hey Warren, from now on, you need to charge a reassembly fee for all reman engines. When they what the fee is for, show em this video. At least you get paid either way. How frustrating to work so hard and have something like this happen.😫 Take a couple shots of Crown, give your wife a big ole hug and kiss, and tell her Happy Mother's Day. I'm sure her smile will make you smile too.

[@klc317]

Geez.....that really sucks

[@zweg1321]

Holy cow I can imagine what the tractor owner said when you told him How did you get it to your shop I assume you can tow these

[@nathansparrow1416]

yes , there is a tow disconnect .

[@sbowden60]

Wow... my dad runs a T model (Not Sure exactly what model) around the farm. (UGA Black Angus bloodline), and here lately, he's had a lot of issues with it, and has 3000 hours. JD is fighting like hell not to help. Its not a lease, its owned.

[@maulboard]

Warren , buddy of mine bought a john deere reman for his skidder, rod cap came off after a short time, hole in block, they did make it right after some discussion, hope it works out for you two

[@Rx7man]

windowed blocks seem pretty common in JD's.. I've seen a few myself in the skidders.. I saw a really fresh CAT engine in a grader window the block as well

[@carsons6519]

My jd reman for my skidder leaked oil out rear cover and oil pan QT. A day till it went back and got pulled and resealed didnt have 50hrs on it it was bullshit 6068t

[@Rx7man]

@@carsons6519 I remember when we were replacing the engine, we had to put the injector feed tubes in.. well, they require a special tool from JD that's like $250 to compress the O ring so it doesn't get cut.. I looked around, found a 3/8th pipe nipple in brass, threw it in the lathe and tapered it out nicely, worked like a charm... Now tell me why that tool needs to be $250???

[@1waukesha]

Im a Field mechanic in The gas compression world up here in Ab canada. Years ago we swapping out a Waukesha H-24. Its a inline 8 cylinder 24L displacement natural gas engine. (A POS by all accounts lol) Anyway, its in a building, driving a screw compressor, so we unhook it, a crew comes in to pull off the roof, we swing it out. Swing in a Reman unit, the crew reassembled the roof, do the alignment, get it all ready to run. As soon as we cranked it, it knocked bad. Turned out someone left a large tek screw inside one of the cylinders and smashed up the piston. We had not pulled the spark bolts out of it, so it came like that from the rebuild shop. So, off comes the roof and start all over again. Ahhh good times. It could normally be rebuilt in place, and just change that one hole out, but the customer said nope. Put a new one in. So we did.

[@Joey966]

Thats heart-breaking dude, all that work, hang in there Warren.

[@alexgoldstein7997]

I feel your pain bud. Had this happen with Ford 5.4 gasser Brand new long block from Mexico. Probably built on a Friday. Complete nightmere.

[@joeycornchopper8152]

That tractor is cursed get somebody down there with some holy water and blessed that tractor

[@danmackintosh6325]

Perhaps Ed & Lorraine *Warren* would be appropriate to call ?

[@duggydo]

Millennial Farmer is considering a reman right now for his 9560 tractor.

[@PKerusso]

Good point. i would send him an email with a link to this video.

[@gmahler6976]

KT3406E did you watch this one, you are the one who recommended Warren and you were right and now I know why you rebuild and not use remans.

[@85932]

This is definitely not for American Style....So sad to see this. What do you mean by quality controlling???????????

[@markmckinley5989]

So sorry for your luck. Going to be a shit show.

[@deanmills5106]

Holly shit, after all that work. I can guarantee that the company that remanufactured that engine isn't going to compensate anyone for all the labor cost involved. Any time one of your customers wants to by a reman you should show them this video. Sorry man, it must piss you off to no end.

[@PatChapp]

Yeah they will, hopefully lawyers don't need to get involved.

[@wormkillerdan6486]

Didn't the owner just have to fight to get the reman that was in this tractor because of some other failure?

[@stevehetrick2676]

Man that Sucks big time. All that waiting, then all that work for this fricken engine to only last a wee bit of time. WOW sickening. Do Over bull shit from John Deere. They better eat this one for lunch. Grrrrrrrrr Sorry you have to put up with this crappy work from other's.

[@markkipling644]

It is totally gut wrenching when something like that happens.

[@j.c.smithprojects]

just like the reman small block i tore down...miserable rebuild. garbage.

[@triggeredmonkey3439]

I know hindsight's 20/20 and you probably heard this somewhere in the comments. You should do a quick once-over just to make sure the big stuff is right on the engine. My experience has taught me when dealing with reman engines. Go ahead and take a little extra time pull the pan off the valve cover and timing cover. Give it the once-over maybe even pull out the torque wrench. A little extra time wasted in the beginning will save you a huge amount of time wasted in the end. The only complication to this is if there is an issue that you missed and you install and have to return they're going to say you took the pan off and did something. The easy fix to this is take it off after the issue happens and say you were "investigating" before sending it back. Take everything off you took off before it was installed. Make sure to take pictures of everything so it's legit. Shouldn't have to do this but we shouldn't have to do a lot of things in this world!

[@birdman7764]

Warren I sure hope you get the highest mechanic pay in your area. You amaze me. You seem to jump right into the most challenging jobs and get er done

[@rogercarrico4975]

Appsolutly incredible!! My question is will Deere reimburse you the labor to reinstall another engine? I guess I already know the answer 😳