⚠️ WARNING - Don't Buy a Citroën eC4 Until You Watch This 👀

[@leiflindqvist9095]

The car must be absolutely fantastic because the big problems seem to be about coffee cups and phone connectivity. I remember when cars were a mean of transport and not rated as cup holders. Where is humanity going, superficiality is increasing, real values ​​are being forgotten.

[@RePlayBoy101]

if these are the only issues then this car is a pretty good car

[@CarSubscriber]

It is, I really liked it actually.

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

That's not a coffe cup holder. That is a bottle holder.

[@royread2491]

Shouldn't be drinking hot coffee while driving anyway!!

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

@@royread2491 sorry, but who said anything about drinking while driving, let alone coffee, let alone hot coffee?

[@karlpowell9235]

I have a 2022 shine plus fully loaded! the car is amazing! The ride is the best on any car i have driven! you can buy an adaptor for wire free for the car play system! Not had the seat belt thing come on! The HUD is great shows everything nice and clear does not get in my way what so ever...

[@CarSubscriber]

Glad you like it Karl and thanks for the tip about the wireless play 🙌

[@CreRay]

This is a good news video! The fact that it's considered worthwhile making a video about these "glaring faults" can only mean one thing: that it's otherwise a very good car..... most other EV's in this price category have, or have had, some real problems! It seems that a lot of cars these days are introduced too early, but the demand is so high and competition still so low, manufacturers get away with it. Get a "coffee cup insert" for the bottle holder, and a Wifi dongle for the wireless phone connection, treat the rear window with "Rain-X" (great product anyway!).... and just enjoy the car.

[@torparnorpan8362]

My ec4 uses wireless AndroidAuto . .works mostly perfectly 👍 And i can put a grocerybag in the seats without sensor tripping I have actually never had the sensor go off without a person in the seat

[@ManueleRosarioPennisi]

Hello, hope is fine asking after one year 😂 how you managed to do that?

[@torparnorpan8362]

@@ManueleRosarioPennisi dont know if you mean AA or the seats... But theAA is wireless on the basemodel without satnav. Different software. Seats I have no idea , just know that its never been an issue 🤣

[@ManueleRosarioPennisi]

@@torparnorpan8362 Hi, sorry I meant for the wireless AA auto. I tried to fiddle with my car wifi settings, but there is no option for 5ghz wifi, so doesn't looks like I can do wireless android auto?

[@torparnorpan8362]

@@ManueleRosarioPennisi you need to chek what software is in your car. If its a AIO or NAC. The AIO versions can use AA wireless

[@ManueleRosarioPennisi]

@@torparnorpan8362 where could I check that?

[@Nas_Allie]

I have an e-c4, cannot say the drink holders been a problem for me & I put shopping on the back & the seat belt alarm doesn’t go off. It also works with CarPlay with Bluetooth

[@CristianSirb]

Scandalous that you must hold the coffee. :)

[@alexbraunschmidt335]

The coffee cup holder is in the doors! I drive the 1.2 petrol since 2021 and still loved it every time I drive it - to the Swiss alps in winter, camping holiday Sardinia or road trip all over France. This Citroen is a perfect companion, needs only 6l per 100km. I can highly recommend this car.

[@oldmotivegame1253]

I still don’t recommend buying this car, simply because birds can shit on it, it’s a complete disappointment and it doesn’t let me sleep, and the complete disappointment is that it needs to be refueled, it’s so inconvenient and takes up my time, it’s so sensitive to gas stations that I just want to throw it away it in the trash.Also, the foot mats don't clean themselves, it's so annoying I have to do it myself every time. This is such stress that the hair on my legs could turn grey.

[@simonmunt9314]

Who takes coffee for a drive ? Seat belt sensor not an issue put all kinds of stuff on the seats no problem. Heads up display fine. Tend to get water droplets below the rear spoiler personally I always drive on door mirrors and reversing camera it's easier anyway. Had the car for 18 months and it's great, only annoying thing is the app and the speed limiter can be hormonal.

[@CarSubscriber]

Who takes coffee for a drive? This is why there are "Drive thru" Costas and Starbucks :-) Overall it is a great car, personally i just wish it was a little faster.

[@estevesoku]

I got the 1.2 petrol and seriously non of these are issues. I drove with heavy rain and the back window isn't an issue. The spoiler actually blocks the car lights from behind so it's a plus. The cup holder is for water and not coffee - I don't think it is safe to drive with hot coffee! The cables are weird as I was trying to connect android auto with USB (right side) and only noticed a few days later that it has to be on the left side for data transfer.!.this is the only thing that is weird for me.

[@alferro3149]

1 year, of e-c4 now. Fantastic car, comfortable as nothing else I've ever tried! This video is a useless rant. The car is very practical and the interior is MUCH better than the Koreans.

[@MARKO4BG]

Hi, how are you satisfied with e primacy 195 69 18, are they good

[@neilshayler3119]

Test drove the Nissan Leaf, MG EV4 and the EC4 and it way by far the most comfortable simple to use not the quickest but I'm not fussed about getting to 60mph in 2.5 seconds its a decent size and will do everything I need it to do. Will probably order when lease is up at the end of July

[@CreRay]

Try covering longer distances with a Leaf.... can't really compare the e-C4 with the older generations anymore.

[@Krebs61]

My wife has it... For the price... Especially used... It's extremely good for a second car... She loves it

[@stuartcollett1753]

Holds a can of Stella ok

[@Kevro3108]

It DOES support wireless car play and Android auto. Your info is (or perhaps was) incorrect. You just have to make sure you enable 5ghz WiFi on the car and away you go.

[@ManueleRosarioPennisi]

Hi! How do you do that?

[@mburgsey14]

Have had an eC4 for three years. Got it by accident, as it was the only one available (it was Covid / chop shortage time). Agree on the cup holders, but resolvable by adding something at the bottom to raise cups (use a folded old tea towel which helps with spillages. The main issue for me is the App, which is completely useless, so do not rely on this if you are wanting to view and control the car remotely. (Apparently Citroen are working on this for the revamped model in 2025). However the two BIG pluses are the comfortable ride and the m/kWh you can get out of the eC4. Even in the Winter I have got 4 m/KWh, and the other day I got 5.2m/kWh (albeit it was on a 50 mile journey on a slower windy A road). It is a very versatile hatchback / SUV and I would still recommend it as a good value EV, if you are in the market for such a vehicle.

[@tom53332]

I don't think a 'warning' is warranted for any of these minor complaints

[@omega_man]

I agree with you about the HUD, way too distracting. But if it can be left hidden permanently that's the problem solved! How about the stop/start - does it work well for you? Other reviewers have mentioned it being slow to start up, just when you need it e.g. at a junction.

[@GDCFC1221]

I have one of these and do not find anything mentioned applicable to my particular car

[@rc666]

Drink your coffee at home, better for the climate and your health.

[@CarSubscriber]

An interesting perspective, thanks 🙂

[@nakke3]

Or don't get hooked in the first place. Never tasted coffee and I survived. Just don't get the point of having rutines that eat your money, health or time but are more of a maintenance than real source of happiness. Never also smoked, red a newspaper or used an apple product. I also watch DVD:s instead of Netflix. Keep it simple (things were better before) and don't spoil yourself to the point where attaching a wire makes you annoyed..

[@BR-fx8uy]

Why better for the climate?coffee at home?😂😂😂😂i imagine your sad holidays drinking your coffee inside and not outside.

[@decimal1815]

1. buy a reusable cup that fits; get a coffee discount at the same time.. 2. fasten the seatbelts .. 3. USB cable is more reliable than bluetooth, so not bothered about that 4. I agree with that one - all cars need a wiper! 5. fair enough - would have thought that brain would subconsciously filter out the image while driving most of the time?

[@sirgongalong]

A bit late I know but just to say that Apple CarPlay wireless doesn’t use bluetooth but WiFi to connect. Would be a bit more expensive than Bluetooth but I agree unforgivable that new cars don’t offer this…

[@NikolaEON]

While driving, drive, and don't drink coffee. Use that space for other stuff :)

[@CarSubscriber]

There is a reason we have "Drive Thru" Starbucks and Costas 👍

[@nakke3]

Energy drinks anyway come in different sizes of cans and taste better 😊

[@ezibricks2424]

I got EC4 I bung crap loads of stuff on the seats it's not gone off yet. To be fair with Android auto the top of the dogs is the only one with wireless charging so having the usb is a god send to charge.

[@CarSubscriber]

Good points mate, thanks for your comment 🙌

[@yuwaipun]

small cup holder could let you hate this EV car , so how much price for a cup holder ? people who need a best ev car or best of cup holder?

[@CarSubscriber]

Hey, the car is good, the cup holder is just a stupid annoyance for me and many others.

[@hubertbrunner2915]

Hi there, Agree with you on the HUD. My wife doesn not like it either. We drive without in the meantime. And sorry it´s not a cup holder but for bottles. My phone does not have wireless charging so I need to cable connect it anyhow. Might as well be the charging port so that the other port is available for the passenger. Spoiler ist disturbing but you get used to it. The app My Citroen is a night mare and French should not ever design apps. Leave that to the Americans or Indians. The Citroen server for the updates is 80s standard in terms of speed. BUT - The smoothness of the ride is far superior to other cars in that range, And that´s the reason we bought it for. Very happy and love at second sight.

[@CarSubscriber]

Agreed Hubert and overall it's a great car. If it was faster with a slightly firmer suspension it would be excellent.

[@ancientspark76]

I give up from buying, now.

[@MsLiveLaughLoveUK]

I ordered this car in July 2022, its now April 2023 and still hasn't arrived in the UK ! Be careful when ordering any vehicle from Stellantis / Citroën

[@MsLiveLaughLoveUK]

The car finally arrived in May 2023 😐

[@laurentrebern9190]

Soyez heureux dans cette douce voiture , elle se fait attendre pour mieux se faire apprécier ! 😉

[@MsLiveLaughLoveUK]

@@laurentrebern9190 I'm very appreciative.... it could have been one year or no car at all

[@andreas.lizzio7726]

Coffee cup...the main issue is the coffee cup holder

[@rayjennings3637]

You don't expect the French to produce two types of centre console to accommodate full size coffee mugs. They can't even get round the problem of moving the fuse box across for RHD cars! The wireless charging pad applies to the minority of phones.

[@RePlayBoy101]

say thanks to napoleon

[@HR2635]

you can buy a 50£ USB to bluetooth for apple carplay and android auto. Problem solved

[@Payteer]

Citroen doesn't sell millions of cars in the UK, just around 18,000 per year.

[@giladephrati7961]

Having rented this car, i asked to replace it after 3 days, not for any of the reasons you have mentioned. The car was very comfrotable, and while no where near responsive as other EVs i have previously driven, the ride was very comfortable and pleasent. However, the range was very limmited and driving on good highways with no traffic ( toll roads in portugal) i had to recharge it every 250 to 300 km (not miles) which did not fit ky needs. So id you need that kind of range, do yourself a favor and skip this car, otherwise its a pleasure.

[@stephenbrown9400]

Show me the perfect vehicle without a single fault/niggle. HUD is ok, if the driver doesn't stare at the bonnet end. Are there many cars with AA/ACP Bluetooth? Reusable cups not shop single use is the way.

[@CarSubscriber]

Every car has niggles you're right and the C$ is a great car.

[@axelkjeldsen6197]

Well, agere on the non-wireless android auto wiew. Dont see Any problems in the 4 otter points.

[@CarSubscriber]

Yes, I'm just picking small holes on what is essentially a very good car overall.

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

Citroen have never been able to do cup holders well. (is it that hard?) my Citroen DS5 had zero cupholders at all...

[@paulpeter6436]

Picking up my E C4 tomorrow afternoon - can't wait.

[@CarSubscriber]

It's a good car and I think you will enjoy it 👍

[@prevailwithme]

picking up ours in a month, can't wait either.

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

Do you have any data on motorway performance cruising at 120km/h?

[@CarSubscriber]

@@TheAllMightyGodofCod No sorry

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

@@CarSubscriber that would be very useful for me and a lot of people. We all already know how these cars perform on short trips, long trips on normal roads and in the city but there is little motorway performance data

[@santopino756]

Citroen has wasted so many resources to create a British version with the steering on the right, it wouldn't have been a big issue making a bigger coffee holder.

[@stevegold6]

I have had an ec4 for 3 months. So far trouble free motoring. Very comfortable and cheap to run using home charging. Prices are dropping, well worth a try.

[@matthewchilds1862]

Ha, I worked on the development of this car , this guy has absolutely no idea what he is going on about , it’s like a parody of a parody. Made me laugh a lot though so thank you

[@bastiaanzeeman3922]

Congratulations on developing this car. Could you inform us what is incorrect then? Because now you just say he’s jabbering and incorrect and that’s it. Maybe you relieved yourself saying that or something, but you aren’t helping anyone

[@giuppe]

Non è un portabicchieri è un porta bottiglie

[@jwvandegronden]

The HUD is perfectly fine for me. Similar solution I had in my 508, loved it! The biggest gripe would be both the coffee cup holder and the seat belt warning. I have the latter in my current car as well and I have to use the seat belt when I carry my laptop bag with me… that is 3 or 4 kilograms total for bag plus content? That is annoying. But the rest of the car makes up for it, so that leaves the cup holder. Most frustrating is the counterproductive aspect of it, for me. The fact it was utterly preventable… Why the H311 wasn’t this part of the testing cycle?! Amazing. So now we are all printing add ons to compensate for the lack of testing by Citroen. And even though it is a small thing, the reoccurrence makes it a big thing. Other than that I love that car; from a distance, haven’t driven it yet. But quirky always trumps anything else for me, and it is a quirky design, especially with the red leather interior, it kicks ass. From a technology perspective does it realise its promised range? What’s your experience over a longer period? Cheers

[@CarSubscriber]

Hi Jan - Thanks for your great feedback an opinions on the car. I have found the range to be very accurate which is good, especially compared to the Peugeot e2008!

[@michaelhead2655]

@@CarSubscriber This the first vehicle I have had with a head up display, and I have had quite a few, it is great, it shows speed and directions and turns when using sat nav. So as a consequence I think its a great innovation for Citroen. Although its stable mate Peugeot have had it on several models.

[@lukasbrauer4887]

No rear wiper? Really? I live in a country with lots of snow and rain, dust - am I not supposed to see anything? What good is all the high tech without a basic safety feature like a wiper? Will they next time omit the front wipers too? To make it even more "futuristic"? Otherwise, it would have been a great car.

[@paulpeter6436]

Hi again Jason - I've had the E C4 for 3 days now and I love it but as you said, I do have the seat belt warning coming on when nobody is in the seat. Not sure what to do about it cos I don't want to bring it back and have some tech start pulling wires apart. At the moment I just leave the belts locked into their buckles on all seats but its not really a solution.

[@CarSubscriber]

Hi Paul, I do find the light goes off after a while, but it is distracting when it shows up on the dashboard whilst you're driving and usually makes you ask everyone in the car if they have their belt on! Maybe worth a call to Citroen but I doubt they can really do anything.

[@SkywalkerPaul]

Is it so comfortable as they say?

[@CarSubscriber]

@@SkywalkerPaul Pretty comfortable but not like a big deal comfortable if you know what I mean.

[@johngarethjenkins]

I cant understand why people obsess about having drinks holders in a car. I never bring a drink into a car in the same way that I would not bring food to eat. I stop at services or eat at home !

[@AdamConnelly15]

Hi. Thanks for the great videos. I am also on onto. I presently use the Peugeot e 208 but need a bigger car for the family. I want to decide between the Peugeot e 2008 & Citroen e c4. #Request : Can you do a video comparing the two EVs, talking about things like range, size, practicality etc. Thanks

[@CarSubscriber]

Thanks for your comment. After having them both for few months I would pick the C4 definitely. You cannot trust the remaining range on the e2008. Remember as you're with Onto you can always just try both anyway!

[@MsLiveLaughLoveUK]

Been waiting for six months for this car to be delivered by the manufacturer 🥴

[@freedomisthegoal]

In my c4 the Bluetooth is working and connecting me to every app?

[@ugursahin7291]

Wifi is disabled in Turkey,Is there any one know how to enable wifi?

[@wokeupandsmellthecoffee214]

Not the best review on the e-c4, the coffee cup holders as you think they are called are actually for small bottles of water. Anyone who puts a costa coffee type cup of coffee in those holders are asking for trouble, imagine if it slipped or you dropped the hot contents would seep into the electrics underneath so a bad idea. The HUD is more like a gimmick for this car so you cant compare it to a BMW M6 costing 3 times the price. I am looking at buying a 6 month old ec4 for around £21k which is a bargain.

[@marklola12]

Hows the app and does pre cooling and pre heating work from app ok

[@stoner27th]

in my country this car is sold for an equivalent of 62k pounds. crazy. the interior looks cheap.

[@CarSubscriber]

Wow, that's ridiculous!

[@stphnwheeler]

Great review. I had a lovely, quirky C4 Coupe (which had a rear window wiper but a useless cup/bottle holder, and my previous Citroen had a shallow indent in the glove box cover which served as a temporary cup holder... ) but the eC4 only made it to number 6 in my list of possible replacements). I purchased an EV from the VG in the end. The car is great, and this video confirmed that my decision not to purchase an eC4 was a good one. 🙂

[@paulpeter6436]

Hi Jason - Most annoying thing on the E C4 - the voice on the Tom Tom nav. It sounds like Joanna Lumley trying to be seductive. Android auto has a sharp clear voice & it's great but I was hoping to use the car's system. Any ideas how to change the voice? I've tried looking on the system but can't find any options. Cheers.

[@CarSubscriber]

I'm not sure but will take a look when I next jump in the car 👍

[@stuart.deborahjonesjones6681]

Had an ec4 for a year and none of your niggles have bothered me in any way I find it a superb car

[@CarSubscriber]

Great, glad to hear it Stuart!

[@HologramJones]

I hear non problems

[@Muushondje]

You look like an automotive Oscar the grouch from Sesamestreet.

[@CarSubscriber]

😂

[@jeroenspacey2358]

Hey yeah the cups i hear that alot but i have a3d printer so i will fill them up with something i will draw up and print... i believe i see the hyper black seats is it not? can you show me what the massage button does is it just one part is it knocking on the back or just a air pump or something? thanks

[@CarSubscriber]

Very cool idea. I thought the shine plus did have massage seats but I can't find a button that would activate it.

[@jeroenspacey2358]

@@CarSubscriber if you have all leather seats and if you have electric adjustable seats then you have it if not then i did not see the seats good enough

[@user-zn6zb2ot3z]

I have a c4 max and it has wireless Android auto.

[@BR-fx8uy]

I m French and i like Big cup of coffee😂

[@runhanrunnl]

WTF! The number One problem is the coffecup holder??? get real.

[@105Marius]

What about the lag in the throttle response? That is a way bigger downside. Anyone know about a workaround?/update to sort that?

[@CarSubscriber]

Yes it's a little slow off the block but overall a good car. Maybe they will update it later.

[@craigroberts3732]

Didn’t mention the tiny battery and pathetic range along with no self closing rear door

[@devroombagchus7460]

Thanks! I”ll never make a test drive without a Starbuck’s coffee. Which size?

[@CarSubscriber]

Medium cup 👍

[@aldish25]

Starbuck's doesn't make coffee, its dark dring, normal black tea is stronger 🤣🤣🤣

[@thedirtycasual2167]

The most annoying thing about this car, is the god damn "my Citroen" APP, my days it's useless. It's actually more likely to win the euro jack lottery than getting this mess of a app to work.

[@fonziebulldog5786]

Nice car. 👍

[@CarSubscriber]

Thanks! 👍

[@jameskostopoulos3779]

Don't buy citroen ec4 cross because its a problem the cup of coffee... And buy Volkswagen golf and t roc with problem machine ahahahahaha

[@Mia19836]

This is the most stupid video I have watched. This car is brilliant!

[@Hustwick]

I love being able to see the dislike numbers too

[@brixmis7]

Do you drive about with a cup of coffee?

[@CarSubscriber]

Yes Ray. lots of people do :-)

[@pouriya8484]

When someone like Starbucks shittt coffee of course have such this opinion about this amazing cupb

[@marklola12]

Tbh I can't be doing with that cheap shiny black plastic inside

[@jjb4531]

You mean the same plastic that pretty much every car under 80k uses

[@grahamrock3942]

Can't really comment..,but I will this time..."GET A LIFE", all, (and I do mean 'ALL'), your views are totally unfounded. This Vehicle at this "price point" is truly exemplary...the Comfort is literally Second to None. STAY SAFE...G.A.R.

[@SRG-Learn-Makers]

weak arguments, i was expecting a report on battery performance or unusual breakdowns

[@Mart_Driver]

Onto have gone into administration now so thats a shame.

[@petermclelland278]

This is trivia.Switched off.