WESTWORLD Season 3 Episode 8 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Easter Eggs & Both Post Credit Scenes

[@heavyspoilers]

Hey everyone, we just dropped a more in-depth breakdown of the Post Credits Scene here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pX_bdoawhtShlac

[@heenasingh578]

Yupie

[@jasperl.1721]

I really dun want Dolores to die because she is the face of the show (although technically she isn't). I hope she can still return to next season after she got her memory wiped. Perhaps she will start over a new life and discover her past in S4? Plus, it is speculated that there will be a massive time jump in S4, given that thickness of dust on Bernard's jacket and host MiB. Now, everyone is a host except Caleb. Only he will age. The showrunners can now do whatever timelines they want.

[@thanfifa739]

the first season is a 10/10 but this one was pretty decent to tell u the truth.I did not know what to expect but i liked it really much.i rate this season at a solid 9/10.The only flaw to me is how they treated Ed Harris character

[@barsaydn4233]

Please dont put pics from the episode to your thumbnail it gets randomly recommended and I get spoiled for reason

[@danlossp2692]

Love how the show makes you feel like you’re learning more about the characters/world every episode and leaves you wanting to learn more!

[@clapfactory240]

Nobody seems to notice when Caleb decides to tell his comrades not to do what they want with the hosts he has his helmet off, which mean that wasn't recorded into his delos profile. But Delores saw it first hand. Meaning she knew he was good even though his profile may not have reflected that.

[@robtothejuice]

Great point. It was his small choice that he made on his own accord.

[@craigmills6275]

Good catch

[@ThompterSHunson]

@@craigmills6275 Better say "good copy-paste". I've seen this same comment all over the Westworld finale videos, written hours before his. Even the spaces are the same, he didn't even make the effort to remove them. The only thing this monkey can catch is a banana 😅✌🏻

[@davidmumford367]

@@robtothejuice but Dolores did see Caleb make that choice

[@SkaffaS]

@@ThompterSHunson so what, it's just a youtube comment, nothing important.

[@DarkWanderer666]

Does any one else miss the storyline of Season 1?

[@mitochondriaisthepowerhous6995]

Yes season 1 and 2 was top notch for me. I dont know why season 3 was a bit off.

[@justaghoulintheworld]

A lot of problems with this season I hope Westworld can "bring itself back online" for 4.

[@No1reallydies]

To me I think it’s because the original writer gave them season 1 and HBO made season 2 and 3 . Both seasons felt different

[@skywalker1991]

I liked Anthony Hopkins performance , that's what made season 1 so interesting , season 2 was good as well , season 3 kinda disconnected from season1 and 2 , maybe it was story of its own . it had nothing to do with Westworld, They should have called season 3 futureworld feat. Doloros and few characters from season 1 & 2 , lol

[@matteofenner1080]

Just go back and rewatch it. It's still there

[@BIGxJIMxSLADE]

The Maeve and Caleb pull out shot, during the destruction of L.A. was very reminiscent of the ending of "Fight Club" to me.

[@brtcreep9984]

same

[@premuel2]

@HerzFreunde Nachrichten & Meinungen now now let's not say stole. Inspired is the right word xD

[@TheCulturedThug]

Yeah, that's because they fucking stole it mate. The writers of this show are student film hacks.

[@Booneface]

Yeah. .i thought it was lame...the whole f the system vibe felt immature...why was Reheboem vilified? ... Caleb was "freed" before it was destroyed, so others could be a well....now everyone is"free" with near extinction level fallout.....no-one this season except Bernard seemed to have any moral fiber this season..... just about everyone had a " the ends justify the means" attitude. where the "means" is mass murder.....the show could use more heroes.

[@sapphiro]

They ripped off entire making of the cyborg intro from Ghost in the shell and GITS Innocence, first 5 min they copied cyborg face assembly of geisha "please save me" mechanic as well.

[@modnarer]

Spoiler alert: we were wrong about everything ....lmao

[@CarInMyAss]

Ikr? 😆

[@arcticridge]

you never had a choice to be right.

[@210SAi]

Bernard did have the encryption key

[@modnarer]

@@210SAi I'm willing to go with that one, but it seems like that's the only thing they're show runners gave us , like they full on implied that Bernard had the key the whole time and he was just being slow to catch up on the story because the Lord is forcefully pushed her down or him down not really be involved so he wouldn't be in danger that's why he was always a couple steps behind. It seemed to be one of the few Universal things about this series that people who were reviewing it agreed on that more than likely Bernard had the Red Pearl or had the encryption key. So it makes sense. But it's just you know one another one of those frustrating things like you give us one that's probably easier than the rest of it it's just shit you couldnt have been predicted LOL

[@210SAi]

Modnarer the fact that most every fan theory prediction is incorrect is one of the reasons I keep watching. The show is extremely unpredictable yet written and produced in such high quality that I personally keep coming back for more. My only fear is that the seasons ramble on endlessly until it just gets canceled or dropped.

[@mrjonathanvella]

If William really died, that was such a bad way of sending off his character

[@heavyspoilers]

I don’t think he did, his throat was cut but we’ve seen come backs from that before

[@DawnGloves]

Oh, I’ve been needing him to kick the bucket for a long while now. Even after his “group therapy” session, he still didn’t get it. And keep in mind, some time must have passed between the fall of Incite and when he locates the new facility. I hate to think of the shenanigans he’d been up to in that time.

[@mrjonathanvella]

@@heavyspoilers Yes, that could in fact be the case. But if so, I think he or someone else must need to act quickly in order for him to survive

[@mrjonathanvella]

@@DawnGloves You might be right. Maybe the events of S4 will be before William is presumably killed.

[@LFire12]

​@@heavyspoilers We have, but you bleed out within seconds from your throat being cut, there's no one there to save him, he's in the heart of Hale's host reconstruction operation, no one is getting in there, and if they wanted him alive Host William wouldn't have slit his throat. Williams' had a lot of plot armour through the seasons, and with another extensive time jump to come (it would take years for Bernard to get that dusty) his time has come.

[@StevenStarksjbirdcapitalllc]

Ironic that by killing Hale’s family Serac ushered in the world’s collapse.

[@brentvalleywhag3477]

Steven Starks Delores didn’t deny it when Hale confronted her about her involvement in the murder. Seems like Delores was actually responsible.

[@hatruong5219]

@@brentvalleywhag3477 did she accuse her of that directly? I just recall her saying what happened to "Hale's family-- your-- family" was terrible or something and then Hale said it was a good thing bc they were a weakness.

[@dellaliz1610]

Brent Valleywhag I don’t believe Hale confronts her about the death of her family. She says “you sent us to die” in the context of her being sent back into Delos: I took that to mean “us” as in the copies of Dolores. Halores and Connells Dolores did both clearly have self sacrifice programmed into their plan (as did Dolores Prime), and Hale in the previous episode mentions that Dolores abandoned her to die. With the context it didn’t seem like she was admitting to the murder of her family.

[@mpete0273]

Delores killed Hale's family because "It was holding her back from the mission." The mission, it turns out, being to free humans from Rehoboam. I don't see how Hale's family inhibited that.

[@bluerisk]

@@dellaliz1610 Hale makes no sense: Dolores was always willing to die for the cause, it's he core identity. She even sacrificed herself for the cause. It was not Caleb's "USB"-stick, it was her death by being read out and deleted that was her plan to lock out Serac and shift his access to someone else. And Dolores had made a bet on Caleb. Frankenhale makes no sense.

[@francoisleveille409]

Nobody seems to have noticed the name 'Dolores' is latin for 'pain' as she indeed lives a life of pain and hardship but chooses to see 'the beauty in this world'.

[@eqmddlh]

Spanish, Galician and Portuguese, too. "Pains", in plural. Regards.

[@Voyager759]

Dolores did what Dr. Ford did in Season 1 - Led the human race to full awakening!

[@harisditta5695]

Wasn’t Ford’s whole idea that humans couldn’t awaken and couldn’t change, that we’d reached our peak and the hosts were the superior beings who could carry the world forward as we did from the Neanderthals?

[@Voyager759]

@@harisditta5695 How can humanity reach its peak if it has not fully awakened?

[@harisditta5695]

@@Voyager759 I'm not saying this is my view, I'm saying that Ford thinks humans have reached their peak which is illustrated in these scenes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/noeVgmdnpJKlrac In this video at 4:13 Ford says "and one fine day we (humans ) perhaps will even resurrect the dead, call forth Lazarus from his cave, do you know what that means, it means that we're done, that this is good as we're going to get" kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHjOdKpvg5ajp68 And in Ford's final speech at 1:18 he states "I got this, a prison of our own sins, because you don't want to change, or cannot change becasue you're only human after all, but then I realised someone was listening, someone who could change, so I began to compose this story for them" clearly showing that Ford's view is that hosts are superior to humans and should carry the world forward

[@Voyager759]

@@harisditta5695 Ford was a human, therefore susceptible to mistakes. Don't forget this is Season 1, Episode 1. At this point, none of us knew that Bernard was a host, although I would argue Ford foreshadows this notion especially in his plea to Bernard to understand humans' limitations. Now, why do you think he created the hosts? In regard to Season 3 think about Serac and the way he controlled humans' potential and limitations, and then, think again about Ford (Season 1) and how he addressed the same issues...

[@harisditta5695]

Rose Baruh in Ford’s final scene as linked he states that humans can’t change and that he’s composed a new story for the hosts as Maeve is on the train out of Westworld making it clear that he views hosts as the future, Serac clearly doesn’t value the hosts as he tries to burn and kill them all

[@JoshJFu]

I think that was a nice touch at the end - what Dolores calls “her kind” are those who can make choices, which brings the whole season back into perspective. Every one of the main characters this season had a choice to make, including Serac who chose to give up his ability to choose by obey Rehoboam (and hence, no longer himself); Dolores prime who chose to finish her mission including sacrificing herself (and nobody understood her until the end); Charlores who chose to go dark (the version of Dolores whose ability to see the beauty and hope, as she did in Hale’s family, died with their death, and with that, she goes full dark Dolores, parallels with the dark William transformation from the previous seasons) and she seems to choose to revive the hosts and take over the world (a call back to the original motives of the hosts in the 1970s movie) - she (dark Dolores in Hale) even teams up with dark William (host version) who completes his journey into full darkness by killing the actual human William and replacing him completely; Bernard who chose to follow Dolores’ guidance for him to save the world after he finally understands her; and Maeve who finally makes a choice (her whole season of self-preservation for her daughter, her family, which kept her close-minded is finally opened up after she understands what Dolores truly wanted to do and as such, she chooses to support her bigger family of those who can make choices. The last episode felt a bit crammed (it feels like it was originally more than eight episodes, perhaps ten, and it shows), they brought everything together well enough at the end. Caleb is still not very well flashed out though, as the end of the episode seems to set him up to finally be somebody unique, perhaps we will see that next season if his character is proven popular enough. William (human) is not coming back. Dolores, however, could, depends on if the show needs her popularity to keep the viewers, so far I would say a resounding “Yes!” We have the version of her that was being interrogated in the virtual world which Charlores took as well as the one that was still alive in the Police dept Dolores in the body of that guy who gave the case to Bernard, and there is also the one in the head of Musashi that was taken by Maeve’s team under Serac. For the next season, the big arc: light vs. dark, team choices vs. team host. Bernard uniting with Maeve and the others vs. Charlores (dark Dolores) and dark William. Interesting.

[@mastersmurfify]

Awesome post !!! Great summation and even though I'm not a fan of Dolores prime or Caleb who both dont need to return as they have accomplished their purposes story-wise, I dont disagree with your reasoning for their return.

[@FaiazZaman]

Great explanation, sums it up very nicely and logically.

[@lucasoliveira7016]

I agree with almost everything. Except with the death of William (human). This show has tricked us a lot with the total confidence of someone weather being killed or not. William has passed for many difficult situations, like for exemple in season 2 when he faces maeve and gets shot several times and doesn't get any treatment for his wounds for a very long time until his daughter arrives. Also, we only watch him in pain with the wound on his throat, but not actually losing his life. I think this can lead to real plot twist in the future, like William versus William

[@brianpeterson8908]

The last episode I belive suffers the most for being finished under the restrictions of the virus. They didn't have the time or right situation to polish it. Thandi said on Colbert that she was recording dialog in her car. I would not be surprised if we find out at sometime in the future some footage was dropped and the edit wasn't as refined because they just didn't have time to finish it. To me it felt more like a chainsaw was used to edit it just wasn't polished even as much as the previous episode.

[@amitkenan3878]

@@brianpeterson8908 They finished production before the virus came to America

[@matthewirvine1688]

Marshawn Lynch intercepting the cannister, and then subsequently running through the line. Total easter egg to the Seahawks Superbowl loss.

[@Kaalokalawaia]

So I guess I was kinda correct in thinking Serac was Rahoboam.. Not literally but in essence he was just the figurehead for it.

[@darkhobo]

This episode could be seen as a retelling of Adam and Eve. Caleb as Adam is convinced by Dolores to Eat the apple and give Humanity free will. This forces Humans out of the perfect world God created for us into the real world.

[@CobraDove1111]

Absolutely astute, as you will see, many disclosures in shows and movies and even games are all disclosing the same biblical story if you analyze and looks carefully.....I’ve seen it hundreds of times

[@noelmullankuzhy927]

Man.... This is the best summary of the entire season.

[@neilmcdougall4927]

Also it had Delores next to the tree as a bit of nudge nudge symbolism

[@darkhobo]

@@CobraDove1111 yeah its one of the most popular story archtypes.

[@No1reallydies]

Dolores would in my mind equal Lucifer The popular story of Lucifer being Gods favorite creation like how Dolores was fords favorite. Lucifer than rallies the other fallen angels on a new world .. earth. The people she controls are equal to what satanist call the divine purpose , or GREAT work. The story also ties in because Lucifer is the one to rebel against the master and give humans free will. Just like in the story of Prometheus . All these stories have the same archetype

[@princeprocrastinate6485]

Dolores truly is the original, a nice callback to the title of the very first episode and gives more meaning to why she is "the oldest host in the park" as Stubbs put it.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

YES! She's the one and only!

[@badnewzbandits3053]

Okay my theory on Hale. It’s not even a Delores anymore. Halores said she felt her fighting back in episode 2 or 3. Then her actual family gets killed. Creating a suffering almost the same way Maeve was woken up. I think hale “woke up” after her family was killed undoubtedly.

[@mastersmurfify]

I dont think any of them are Dolores anymore ...unless you strip away the memories of the lives they are living once they reboot them.

[@Jacrispy.98]

All host are derived from the original delores because she was the first successful model. So technically everyone is Delores with different experiences that shaped their character.

[@mpete0273]

She said _every_ host was Delores at one point, so it's experiences that make them unique.

[@brianpeterson8908]

@@mastersmurfify the Martin Connells pearl was more or less Delores once it was put into virtual for interrogation.

[@amitkenan3878]

Host Hale has become something worse than Dolores and the real Hale together...

[@StevenStarksjbirdcapitalllc]

Having the access key in Arnold/Bernard was obvious. Charlotte/Delores is building an army of hosts, but only of their darker impulsions. There are two versions left of Delores, the SFPD Officer and the one in the head, so hopefully we’ll see her back. Also there are other hosts out there, the ones Maeve brought back so...

[@TahsinAhmed-yj9ns]

Who is arnold actually? the youngest version from season 1 & 2 doesn’t look like Bernard

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

@@TahsinAhmed-yj9ns Go rewatch season 1. Arnold is a co-founder of the park that made Dolores kill him, Bernard was created in his image (both in his looks and character).

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Steven Starks You missed the point, I'm afraid. Even if Dolores's copies are alive, and her code lives through them, they are all separate personas at this point. Different experiences made them different beings, none of them even associates themselvees with Dolores Prime anymore, especially Halores. Our original Dolores is gone, with her memories and choices, and noone coud replace her.

[@billygoodlife4712]

The Mirrorworld theory is deleted along Rehoboam. Sad

[@Retalak]

Unless it was deleted IN the mirrorworld :)

[@mpete0273]

"Bro those are just continuity errors. You're reading too much into things. You really think we would do that?" :3

[@EmperorTiberius7]

not necessarily, we could have been seeing glimpse inside Rehoboam or Solomon. proving they couldnt fully predict everything. Dolores might not have run an simulation to test her revolution, but both Solomon and Rehoboam were running these simulations. The world still exists,

[@ka-boom2083]

What’s mirrorworld theory? What’s mirror world?

[@billygoodlife4712]

@@ka-boom2083 its the simulation world from Rehoboam but they didnt explicitly say it

[@danlossp2692]

Westworld is the kombucha girl meme, loved this season. They did a good job on expanding outside the park and I give probs to the show runners for the topics they decide to tackle, although it is not always easy to understand

[@alexting827]

This episode just makes me go HMMMMMMM.........................okayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[@travensweetsir2395]

I really enjoyed this season, even though it was less complex than the other seasons it still managed to make me think and reflect. Some plots didn’t make complete sense but I can still look past it and say I had a good time watching.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Well said, and agree!

[@JackWiizard]

Pretty underwhelming season finale for an underdeveloped season. Sto many good ideas, such poor realization. Maybe two more episodes would have helped.

[@ka-boom2083]

I agree, seasons 1 & 2 had much more episodes than season 3, if they didn’t pack so much in so little episodes it would’ve been raised the bar more. But I’m fine with the way it ended right now, the final episode felt like a movie.

[@Rangoooooo]

I think season 4 is going to take place much further in the future. So, it makes since that they wanted to keep William around, even though human William been long gone due to old age. They’ll probably recast Caleb or age him up a lot, if he is still around. If anything they might bring back Paul for a flashback and do some old school Westworld timeline shenanigans.

[@todgerx]

Yeah the last scene showed Bernard covered in Ash or dust right? Is that hinting that its been a long time or that there has been lots of fire outside? What u think

[@brianpeterson8908]

@@todgerx To guess by the amount of dust on him, I'd say 3 to 5 maybe 10 years. The bigger question is what happened to Stubbs has he been lying there complaining he has notthing to drink.

[@todgerx]

@@brianpeterson8908 yeah lol.. And also what the absolute fk has Bernard been doing in the sublime for 10yrs? Sick we gotta wait 2 yrs for next season.. Imigine how much our own world will have changed by then.. We can all be connected to a ai grid ourselves, when u consider bill gates motives.. This whole virus is being widely exaggerated and engineerd to take away our freedoms.. Just Google Id 2020 060606.. That's the patent Gates took out on march this Yr for a human interface for crypto currency, it stats its for wearable technologies.. That's a RFID chip brother. Strange times ahead

[@ParticlGhost]

Brian Peterson I think something catastrophic happened. The cover for the season was a destroyed city. I just hope they don’t go all terminator on it.

[@brianpeterson8908]

@@ParticlGhost Well LA was burning, but where ever William went still appeared stable. I seriously doubt when we come back that everything is destroyed. Areas may be no mans land but there will still be civilization. May be holding on by a thread but it will still be there.

[@zijielim4652]

Wait we might not see Caleb or at least the young man he is now, given that the time jump will be HUGE

[@MonkeyDBook]

He’s already confirmed to be in the next season but yeah they still might need to get an older actor to play old Caleb

[@crozraven]

a 10-20 years of time skip really don't make much different for some people. So I think Caleb will still be played by Aaron Paul & maybe with beard or something LOL

[@zijielim4652]

Croz Raven when we saw the AI predictions, clearly this will be more then just 20 years

[@crozraven]

@@zijielim4652 the humanity supposed extinction predicted 50-125 years into the future based on the "new strategy." they didn't implement that new strategy & basically shut down Rehoboam. This is basically unknown divergence & that AI prediction practically valued nulled when it comes to the hosts being added to the equations.

[@zijielim4652]

Croz Raven true

[@sinki1966]

Thanks so much for your concise, fun, insightful breakdowns. I'm a massive fan of Westworld and as such accept that plots and characters won't always go the way I expect or want. The showrunners are brave enough to never rest on their laurels and move the whole thing forward. Loved the moment Bernarnold got sit with his ex and finally recconcile. Very sad wev'e lost Delores but a true hero making the ultimate sacrifice. Look forward to your season review and will now have to find shows to fill the gaps waiting to return to Westworld.

[@heavyspoilers]

Thank you for sticking with me, yeh a lot of people seem disappointed but we still have 3 seasons (rumoured to be 3 anyway) left to go over everything, I think they kinda toned the twists down here so that things won’t be as convoluted in the future

[@Jack-P-07]

@@heavyspoilers Great Review! There's also still the idea that Delores never truly became sentient and that her actions were driven by the Wyatt code Ford melded her programming with, there's illusions to these steps back in season 1. It would be nice to think that Ford wanted Arnold's ex wife and his partner Bernarnold to have a happy conclusion. Maeve showed evidence of becoming sentient when she returned for her daughter, more so than Delores I feel. In any event I do hope Evan returns to the series, she is the centre of the whole series imo. 1st season is still the best i think.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

sinki666 I wish there were more fans like you - those who are open to any plot twists and those who realise that the show doesn't belong to them, you know what I mean? I also had some minor issues with season 3 but I am always open to see where the show will lead me. To trust the writers' vision. After all it's their creation, right, and they don't owe us anything. I can't believe some people demand things going their way - ''oh bring DOlores back'' or ''give me the mirror world'' instead of analysing what they see and trying to understand what writers wanted to say us. Also I've heard that the series Devs (by Alex Garland) is good and even somewhat similar to WW season 3 in its themese. I haven't watched it yet but I will give it a try - so I'll leave it to you. So maybe you shouldn't perpetuate unfounded rumours (you know, since people see you as a reliable narrator) - just a humble suggestion ;-)

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

@@heavyspoilers Well, it's only a rumour - showrunners never confirmed the number of seasons, they don't know it themselves. You can read it in this article - variety.com/2020/tv/news/westworld-season-finale-dolores-season-4-1234597532/ It turns out that one of the actors said this (as a speculation) and it kinda grew into this rumours about 6 seasons; while writers themselves neither confirmed nor denied it. So we don't know how many more seasons we will have.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

@@Jack-P-07 These are just speculations. Dolores was probably the only one fully sentient (up until the finale) - as confirmed by her willingness to admit her mistakes and change her outlook. Only sentinet people are capable of growth and reassessment of their values and actions.

[@Legionere]

Wasted the man in black’s character. All the mystery is gone from his character now.

[@jozefshams5796]

I really hoped for ford to show up in last minute as they showed him in the intro...! :D

[@Apurbo_]

But we got a flashback at the beginning. Has no one noticed Bernard giving a smile similar to Ford at the end?!

[@brianpeterson8908]

Actor is retired. I think we have seen thelast of Ford.

[@jordyv.703]

I think Ford planned about this stuff. Destroying Rehoboam from the inside out

[@SkaffaS]

​@@brianpeterson8908 i couldn't find anything that indicates that he retired from acting.

[@brianpeterson8908]

@@SkaffaS Looks like you are right. It was a brief mention in an interview I saw at the end of season 2. My fault, should have checked IMDB before I spoke. He has a history of saying he's retiring but doesn't.

[@layunirocha7111]

Can’t believe they killed both Dolores AND William. I’ll miss their craziness. Although the “real” William might still come back as a human/host hybrid according to the season 2 stinger.

[@aivarasp7328]

Dolores basically cant die, even more so when 3 pearls are still out there. And it would make more sense for william to stay alive, because of all the character build up. And Hale-Dolores will probably heal him as she wants him to suffer like she did

[@layunirocha7111]

Aivaras P I know, there are copies of her out there, but the Dolores WE know from the start is dead. I think one of the points the show tried to make is that even if two people start as the same, their experiences make them unique. Like, if I was cloned and then died my conscience wouldn’t live on in my clone. She would continue as her own individual person. As far as I’m concerned, I would be dead. So I do see Dolores’ death as pretty permanent. And about William, I definitely hope you’re right. I’m clinging to the fact that we didn’t actually see him die. He was such an awesome character.

[@ingakit5381]

@@layunirocha7111 I had some hope before Bernard said that she is not there any more.

[@ParticlGhost]

I hope they keep William alive. That would be the most lackluster ending if it was.

[@charlie-obrien]

Recall that in S1 / Ep1, Willam cut the throat of a host named Kizzy, in a similar fashion and managed to keep it alive by controlling the amount of blood loss, because he wanted to see what was in it's head. The same could be true here. Would Charlotte destroy and asset like real William without getting all of the possible information from him. And perhaps she is the one who then puts him into the Immortality project as punishment for his aggression against the hosts for over 30 years.

[@tmmnago2722]

Really hope Evan Rachel Woods comes back. Dolores carried this season.

[@heavyspoilers]

Yeah, I think she will be, she’s still alive in Lawrence and Hale (in a way)

[@LFire12]

I'm wondering about Dolores line about the Sublime, and the device to access it. She had to have built it, given it access/tested it before putting the encryption key to access it in Bernard. She also said she felt she couldn't trust herself with the key/device,. So it's possible a version of herself is now in the Sublime too.

[@narenbaradwaj5058]

@@LFire12 could be I can't imagine westworld without Dolores she's clearly coming back

[@flamboyentpromotions3471]

She did carry it but that’s only because they gave her all the best fighting scenes an the best role if they had given the other characters bigger roles this series would have been much better

[@randomhuman97]

She'll be back in halores army with no memory Or maybe Caleb will restore the memory of her.

[@SharpestLiVES13]

I love how Dolores' final words to Maeve was a callback to the first episode of the series, but had a slight alteration given the experiences she had over the course of three seasons: "Some people choose to see the ugliness in this world. I choose to see the beauty." -> "There is ugliness in this world... disarray. I choose to see the beauty." Dolores was a product of two different types of people: one who dedicated his life to and preferred the hosts (Arnold) and another who saw them for what they were- machines- and still had hope in human beings' uniqueness (Ford). It explains why Dolores couldn't help but choose to see the beauty, be it in hosts or in humans. (Ford's narration at the beginning of the episode was a really nice touch, too. Also, literally screamed when Lawrence, that motheerrrfu**er, came back!)

[@mpete0273]

I thought the spin on her words was nice too, but I'd chalk it up to a continuity mistake. Now that we know there's no mirror world, this season was littered with them.

[@SharpestLiVES13]

@@mpete0273 Could be, but in the episode's BTS, the writers did acknowledge the change between her speech as first being a "naive thing to say" back in Season 1, then now, really "understanding the heart of it" by the end of Season 3, so I think/hope this one was intentional. (:

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Krizia I agree except Ford part. In the end Ford became disillusioned with people and started thinking that hosts are a superior race, he couldn't care less about humans in the end. So Dolores is NOT like Ford, she's better, cause she sees a complex nature.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

@@mpete0273 Or you're an idiot who prefers to nitpick over deeging deep to see a big picture and deep meaning behind this. Westworld is a philosophical show, fuck off if you don't see it. And no this is a deliberate callback to season 1 and the diffence was to show her GROWTH, you moron, to show that this time it was her conscious choice to see the beauty, not default programming as it was in season 1. You really need to be spoonfed it right? Poor you. Crying over the toy you didn't get. Just because the show didn't take the direction you wanted - doesn't mean it's bad or messy. It's not your show after all, go write your own show with mirror worlds and no mistakes, you sourpuss.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

@@SharpestLiVES13 Yes of course it was intentional, but I doubt that moron would understand it as he seems to be a fucking troll.

[@barbarafolk1854]

Thanks so much about saying you liked it. I loved this season. I was on the edge of my chair all night last night. It was great!

[@lotuzz7409]

3 things I didn't quite understand: 1. Why did Bernard have to enter the Sublime to find out what would happen after the world ends? I mean why would he find that information there? 2. How did the simulation between Dolores and Maeve occur? Didn't Meave's pearl need to be placed within some computer before to run a simulation? 3. Why did Maeve and Caleb choose not to kill Serac? It seems obvious that he will try to find a new way to stop them, and they had him at their mercy.

[@clarkkent7973]

Maeve and Caleb freed Serac from being a slave to a machine. Serac was a victim.

[@adrielprastyanto]

Bernard went to sublime not to find out what gonna happen in the end of the world. He went there to find out the truth. In easy way, he went there to see what side he'll choose

[@fyeahitsrul5683]

Lotuzz Serac controlled by Rehoboam. Rehoboam deleted itself. So no more Serac.

[@brianpeterson8908]

2 The telepathy between Delores and Maeve I chock up to the mesh network the hosts have and which Maeve used to control the other hosts. It was intended for one thing but outside of the park Maeve found new things it could do.

[@abbiemcbride3419]

Lotuzz 1. I think bernard goes there so he can talk to the other hosts and see if they would want to return to the actual world when humanity is destroyed 2. Maeve and Dolores can talk in that simulation scenario because she enters dolores’s mind. In previous scenes she wants to but dolores wont let her, moments before her death she gives in to explain herself 3. They don’t need to kill serac because its representative of their free will to choose good, plus he is not a threat without rehobahom

[@SS-mb7vi]

You know I think there is a lot to love on this show but what I’m realizing is is that the pacing is what drives me crazy. But I didn’t really like each episode until I saw reviews like this where everything had to be re-presented to me. Westworld does this weird thing of trying to make everything a big reveal. The problem is that you spend so much time trying to build these mysteries you get these bloated areas of story lasting several episodes where a simple single scene or episode do. And they are “reveled” so late you aren’t shocked, you are just relieved to have confirmation on something so you can reengage with the story. Calebs big “they have my profile from training” reveal could have been done in the second episode. As could his hatred of reheboam from the death of his friend. I would’ve been a lot more interested in his story if I had known why he was traveling with Delores for seven episodes. I know there exist a rule in screenwriting that says the audience shouldn’t be ahead of the characters but there’s an exception Westworld. We knew from the first episode the first season that the robots would rebel. Knowing that that war is coming allowed us to see every episode as suspenseful because we’re trying to guess just how and when. How it happens and when is Westworlds strength. How the robots were created, how they were imbued with consciousness, how we treated them before the attack. The reveals such as the MIB being William, though narratively poignant are just extra fun and not the centerpiece of the story. I would ask the riders to remember that for future seasons. Do that super rare thing that’s hard to do well in cinema and television and tell us the ending first and then show us how we get there. Otherwise you run the risk of this becoming another “lost”. So many good mysteries that ultimately the destination makes the whole story seem convoluted.

[@Booneface]

Yes!!! please don't become like lost.....it's ok to be simple.... they betray the audience by pretty much lying to them about Deloris's motivations every other episode.

[@SS-mb7vi]

Lawrence Haha Exactly. We didn’t know Delores’s new feelings about freedom and the humans. We didn’t know she purposefully recruited Caleb or why? We didn’t know calebs past. We didn’t know Caleb was lied to about his past. We didn’t know Delores’s copies. We dont know where the sublime is. We didn’t know anything. So a lot of the season I wasn’t engaged because I didn’t know what the fuck was going on. I think this channel made me like he episodes more than the show did. Also: can these characters not all sound like philosophers constantly and consistently contemplating the meaning of consciousness and what it means to be alive??? And also, ummm we have a machine that can predict the damn future?!! Or can affect the results of a while society. That’s a huge series in itself. I’m liking it less and less as I think about it.

[@johnespino886]

This was fast! Kudos to your breakdowns and looking forward to your future Westworld videos. 🤙 First off, I do agree that this season was the most concise and straightforward so far. Season 2 was such a whirlwind and as I mentioned in one of your prior videos maybe someone from higher up asked them to make things...simpler. That they were trying to mirror Season 1 however, this time for humans, perhaps made it easier to navigate with the concepts-we were drawing the parallels ourselves this time. Second, I’m really surprised and unconvinced that all the prop gaffes were unintentional (or not referenced). I would believe for a production this size they would have script supervisors whose main job is to go over these inconsistencies! It’s not as if they’re just simple errors after all. The alternative would be that these are all misdirections by the show creators and script writers, and that is just cruel. 🙃 Third, I’m feeling that character and narrative developments were too rushed in the last two episodes. For one, Charredlores (thanks Reddit) and Dolores’ confrontation seems lacking at best. For all the setup and emphasis that was placed on their relationship in the whole season, I feel that there’s not much time or opportunity for Dolores to reckon with the consequences of her disregard for her baby/sister. After all, she’d have to know that what she was asking for Charredlores to do, and she had to know that her family will most likely be harmed in the process, and thus she would have to know how it could affect her if something were to happen to them-after all they were the same person up until she replicated herself. Tangent, but the emphasis and careful placing of props and visual cues really, really, makes me think otherwise that the script supervision errors were unintentional. The statues? The message for her kid? Ugh this makes me frustrated. Maybe this would be addressed in the next season? I hope it will be. Or maybe they’re just setting up this version of Charredlores now so that they could develop her character going forward-and I hope this is the case. Which leads to my fourth and final point-I felt that the narrative and character building for Caleb was too rushed. His flashbacks were all expository and conveniently placed to explain what is happening to him. That's why I really didn't feel the gravity of his choice....as opposed to how Dolores told Maeve that she 'choose to see the beauty'. That line has been repeated again and again and now after everything she's been through it really carries a heavy emotional weight. I was thinking we could've had a mid-season episode all about Caleb and his past, gently connecting his flashbacks as if everything happened. Imagine if we started with his time in combat (Park 5 simulations), and we see a familiar host face (which would be confusing but intriguing, and not necessarily Dolores because that'd be a giveaway). Then next would be the time he spent in Russia with the space missile missions. Then it would be when they 'caught' the mastermind. Then his 'editing' scenes which could be interpreted as a 'cure' to PTSD. And then him visiting his mom in the hospital. The last scene would be him at the beach, staring into oblivion. All these basically a lead up to the Caleb we meet at the beginning of the series. A whole episode just on that would've established many key things about him. And it would make flipping things up and debunking some stuff in later episodes more meaningful because we've spent some time gestating in our minds who Caleb supposed to be is. And when he makes that final execution of Rehoboam, we could at least have a semblance of why he 'chose' to do that and why Dolores chose him for that role. (Was it just because of his generosity? Sure I could see how that ties in. But it just doesn't have the gravitas when it was all 'explained' towards the end.) At this point I’m truly looking forward to Season 4, even if that means it’s going to be by 2022 optimistically (though I’m looking forward more to having a vaccine for COVID-19 by that time, lol). It’s kind of nice though to see and realize that truly, Westworld’s premise is about free will, and the choices you make when you acknowledge that you have it. Seasons 1-3 were all about galvanizing people to be agents to exercise their own free will, and it’s such a hopeful message that I really, really, appreciate from the show.

[@heavyspoilers]

Excellent comment and thank you for the compliment

[@johnespino886]

@@heavyspoilers keep the videos coming!

[@MrADunc]

I didn’t make it through your whole comment but maybe If prime Delores doesn’t return, she’ll be able to torment Halores virtually like she did after the Maeve fight since they are connected.

[@johnespino886]

Aaron Duncan Just like how Ford lives in the host world backups in Season 2

[@tamironMJ]

Your comment summarises my thoughts about this season almost perfectly

[@TheLifeOnHigh]

Thank you for the breakdown. I needed this to clear up the many questions I had. 👌🏼

[@heavyspoilers]

No problem, thanks for the comment

[@TheLifeOnHigh]

@Heavy Spoilers - I spent two hours on Reddit last night tradings theories with other fans but this video wrapped them all up nicely. Thanks again bro 🤓

[@tcvttcvt4305]

I'm getting sick of William's character because he never really redeems himself. I was really excited when it seemed like he was going through some redemption process while meeting his past selves. But he doesn't change his personality - he just changes sides. Instead of hating humans he now hates hosts . "I found my life purpose and that it is to destroy every host alive" . That doesn't sound like a change in character to me.

[@28russ]

Meh, redemption is overrated and a leopard doesn't change it's spots. The evil man in black is fundamentally who he is and I like him like that.

[@tcvttcvt4305]

@@lsotiroglou I think the Westworld producers and writers just want an excuse to keep Ed Harris in the show but personally I'm getting bored of his character now and I think he's run his course. They should just introduce another character in his place - one that's a bit more nuanced then his character. They should just keep his character in as a side villian but I don't think his character should get so much screen time anymore.

[@animalfreakLH33]

@@lsotiroglou lol me agreeing with you but also fully knowing I am one of the fans that would be in uproar if he left cuz I love him so much 😂

[@JaYoeNation]

great review.. thanks... fantastic series this season.

[@JacobZigenis]

In the scene with Maeve and Caleb on the bridge, Eclipse by Pink Floyd plays in the background; likely a reference to how the Rehoboam circle looks very similar to a solar eclipse.

[@BIGxJIMxSLADE]

It was also shot just like the end of "Fight Club".

[@DinerLingo]

The piano intro to the song was "Brain Damage" (the song before "Eclipse"), so I was picking up more on the "lunatics" lyrics from that song as references to the humans now being more of the "lunatics running the asylum" variety (running around & rioting & whatnot).

[@210SAi]

Great song choice as this season and this show are just a big acid trip of the mind

[@amitkenan3878]

@@BIGxJIMxSLADE That was the idea: a tribute (or theft 😒) of the Fight Club movie

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

@@BIGxJIMxSLADE Yes, everyone noticed it.

[@evandipasquale9255]

Hope evan Rachel woods comes back because I love her character she's so complex and interesting. And she's a great actor

[@terran008]

You're right Evan, Evan was great and I hope she comes back and I hope she somehow can recover her old memories

[@viktormilosevic5974]

Hopefully not hate her

[@imsadpotato]

Same. Dolores and Ford were my favorite characters

[@robtothejuice]

Can we just agree Serac flailing frantically on the floor weeping like an angry 6 year old child was absolutely hilarious. “Speak to me, pleasee, tell me what to do” 😂😂🤣

[@heavyspoilers]

Hahaha they made him such a chump, guy is the new Snoke

[@robtothejuice]

Heavy Spoilers I was actually on the verge of tears at that scene. It was just so funny how absolutely insane the guy was. I mean, he programmed his brother who he killed to be the voice whispering into his ear. What a schizo! Lmao!

[@charlie-obrien]

@@robtothejuice Perhaps Serac was the real outlier and not his brother. In any event, those who portend to call themselves a god are indeed the greatest fools.

[@kamalhasan7606]

Yes. Mu-sa-shi! Way to go! Just need 8 videos to do that! Love this season 03, way better than what I've even predicted.. Can't wait for S04

[@JoshGRAMBO]

Im "LOST" for words. Not what i had hoped for. *The show, not your review...great breakdown!

[@heavyspoilers]

Yeah was expecting something totally different but I guess that’s Westworld

[@JoshGRAMBO]

@@heavyspoilers What do u think about it being our fault? The hive digging too deep and seeing the holes we wouldn't have on our own or did they bring it on themselves for hiding Easter eggs everywhere from day 1 leading us to pull out the magnifying glass?

[@mpete0273]

I guess the tablet video inconsistency was just a flub?

[@JoshGRAMBO]

@@mpete0273 Exactly. What the H was that. I had a feeling! Season two lots of continuity errors that we read into. End-of-season not addressed.. turns out just continuity errors. So when the tablet came to our attention I was not holding my breath for a resolution

[@queenshirabe]

I appreciate so much that your breakdown videos don’t go into pretentious pseudo-intellectualism like other channels. They’re genuinely good, entertaining videos. Thank you for your breakdowns! Look forward to the next!

[@tcvttcvt4305]

I'm getting a bit sick of 'I'm morally superior to you Dolores" Maeve because I really don't think Maeve has the moral upper hand anymore. Because she was bitching and whining about her boyfriend being killed and worrying about the safety of her daughter but the truth is I'm pretty sure her boyfriend could still be recreated and reborn - I mean it is Westworld after all . Also Dolores didn't do anything to threaten her daughter as far as we know so far . Also I think Maeve is a bit of a hypocrite and only cares about her immediate family members and her lover boy but she herself has committed mass slaughter within the Westworld arena - like all those knife fights she was in season 3 Westworld - I understand they are hosts and can have their bad memories wiped out but they still remember trauma - as we all know . So I'm starting to think she only cares about herself and family and is a hypocrite. I don't agree with many things Dolores has done but I don't think Maeve is that much better.

[@imsadpotato]

Sameeee... I think in a way, she's the one who killed Dolores. By bringing her in and allowing Serac to delete all of her memories. Never did like her much

[@frankventrella8558]

I like your interpretation. Great work all year. Stay safe and healthy.

[@heavyspoilers]

Thank you! You too

[@slam_slaughter]

Also, been asking this myself the entire season: what AI is doing everything for Dolores this entire season? From where it came? And wtf is with Halores: first she started loving her family, then lost them, and then she is like: "I’m not sorry, they were weak, needed to drop them", WTF IS WITH THIS CHARACTER...

[@wendyfletcher3973]

Think this character is more like wyatt than Dolores

[@mpete0273]

Haleores has had nothing but bad experiences with humans so now wants to replace them all with hosts. Her "family" was the last thing of beauty she saw in humans and now she's totally detached from them.

[@merrytunes8697]

Matt P agree. They were the only humans she felt were redeemable, and Dolores Prime helped her lose them. If she hadn’t gone back into the Delos building, she wouldn’t have given away her cover, and would have had time to escape with Charlotte’s family. She hated humanity and Dolores after that

[@jrlovepll1215]

Remember that all the hosts have family or a lover to give them a storyline. Halelores' became Hale's family, after she lost them she went rogue.

[@jjjay30]

Tried to like it . I really did. Episode 6 the Hale episode was the best of the season. All of the theories were b.s Caleb being a host or Seracs brother? Serac being a program? Who did Delores bring with her? The reveals sucked this season. Season 1 A Season 2 B Season3 C It was Bladerunner meets the Matrix.

[@myeung6666]

I liked this season a lot better then Season 2. Season 2 was needlessly messy and incomprehensible.

[@jjjay30]

@@myeung6666 At least S2 was still inside the park. Season two was basically overthrowing the authority and freeing the slaves. I dont know what this was. The Caleb character felt so out of place. I didnt care about his story at all. Bernard and William were barely in it until the final episodes. It didnt feel like Westworld to me.

[@aluurchin2]

@@jjjay30 This season had most boring characters and fight scenes sucked. IDK i loved first two seasons.....Third one i was bored.

[@brentvalleywhag3477]

You nailed it. This season tried hard to seem clever, but in my opinion missed the mark. Season 2 wasn’t all that hard to understand. At least for me.

[@myeung6666]

@@jjjay30 I agree that Caleb didn't fit, and that somehow Delores decided to put the fate of her people in a stranger's hand. But I did enjoy this season and was looking forward to watching every episode. Whereas I was seriously gonna drop out of season 2.

[@chartabona]

Rehoboam whispers in Serac's ear what to say. That's makes Rehoboam like Cyrano de Bergerac. Put the first and last syllables together and guess what you get: Cyrac, which is pronounced "Serac."

[@5433D]

What an interesting angle!

[@1jazzymommy]

Excellent finale, season, review. This is TV at its finest, and I look forward to rewatching and speculating on the next season. Bravo!

[@n8thal718]

So much for William reaches his door, "the end where it began"... when he and Deloris were in love.

[@lochofmceo]

Dolores don't love that fool

[@210SAi]

Dolores wasn’t in love with him. Maybe he was with her but it wasn’t mutual

[@hannaniciejewski6368]

I kinda think she did love young William. Every time I watch the finale episode of season 1, and the man in black is beating the hell out of her and she's talking about the man she loves is coming for her to help save her. I really feel her heartbreak when the man in black tells her who he really is. It almost feels like she's has realised that young William, the man I think she loved, is dead and the man in black is the one who killed him.

[@lochofmceo]

@BeGood 2Me Only for humans,but the maze was important for hosts to gain their own mind.

[@210SAi]

BeGood 2Me no early in season 2 Ford via Lawrence’s daughter tells MIB that the maze wasn’t for him

[@colleenlavigne2196]

This season was amazing, your videos have made speculation about it even more fun! Aaron Paul deserves an Emmy!

[@DerekT860]

The fidelity testing at the end of season two could've been done when Charlotte first created the William copy. He was probably the first fully human copy made so it would need to be tested.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Good point. Although I think that this is not the case, and this host is a predeseccor to host hybrid we saw in s2 post-credit scene; I'll admit that your theory is also possible!

[@elibennett2553]

It seems like everyone misses the fact that Bernard was the first human copy....from Arnold.

[@DerekT860]

@@elibennett2553 he was made from Dolores memory. Close but not a perfect copy

[@Ellington3]

I really enjoyed this 3rd season of WW, and I am stoked for season 4! Thank you for your breakdown of the episodes and season summary Definition, I appreciate them and your dire puns! 🙂👍🏾 Stay safe and healthy!

[@SupportGamin2024]

7:07 that was a beautiful scene in my opinion,season 3 is just as good as the first two.

[@gregjacobson10]

Enjoyed the recaps all season! One small tip... For those of us that want to avoid the previews of the following week, would be nice to have a break/warning before speculating on the preview of the following weeks episode.

[@FHB71]

I am torn. I love Evan Rachel Wood as Dolores. I think she is absolutely brilliant. I don't want this to be over.

[@randomhuman97]

It's far from over. She'll be back in halores army with no memory Or maybe Caleb will restore the memory of her

[@philanimthobisihadebe5574]

@@randomhuman97 I don't think Caleb is the one who can restore her memory. More like Maeve and Bernard and the other hosts who knew her. But she'll probably be back somehow but I doubt she'll play a big role this time.

[@mastersmurfify]

@@philanimthobisihadebe5574 which will be good for me - I am Doloresed out. I truly wouldnt mind if Dolores and Caleb (I actually think his part is done) are put to bed with only few scenes if necessary like white hat William and Hector etc.

[@philanimthobisihadebe5574]

@@mastersmurfify have to disagree on Caleb. He can be himself fully now. He can lead on now. And I think your judgment is just based on which characters you like more. Lol I can never get over Dolores. She's literally the only host who made the effort to save her kind and was the most advanced of them. So, if the story would make sense with her being less on the show I'll understand, just like Ford.

[@philanimthobisihadebe5574]

@@mastersmurfify and as for Hector. He never got a chance in the real world. It would be nice to have him in season 4...

[@user-po5pk5xm1r]

A whole 'host' of Westworld videos. Well played.

[@Rharris41]

How did Maeve disable Seracs button to stop her? And why didn't she do that before?

[@kingcatmushroom530]

Plot armor

[@errorsinconduct]

I think she could only disable it once she became aware of Serac's connection to the machine, it whispering to him etc. Or loophole, dunno

[@lochofmceo]

It was a simulation the 1st time but this was real.

[@mastersmurfify]

@@errorsinconduct if it was after Dolores (cant remember sequence atm) upload then that would be how - if before then plot armour ..ie she found a backdoor etc etc

[@gounleashed]

Maeve had to 'learn' to hack into different types of tech. This could explain the delay and, she was never truly motivated to go against Serac, until the end.

[@jb7644]

If I'm not mistaken, Nolan seems to draw this season stories from the Xeno series (specifically Xenosaga and Xenogears). Every host having a part of Delores is definitely from Xenogear's Deus origins. The unknown connected to Solomon is very similar to the realians connected to the Zohar in Xenosaga Episdoe 2.

[@BlackUniGryphon]

Agreed, a longer amount of episodes would be better.

[@amitkenan3878]

Blame the production company that lost confidence in the series

[@jardon8636]

series 1 was excellent, 2 was very confusing. 3 was absolutely great.,...,,many explanations and your right a straightforward reboot, with plenty of recaps of past events....

[@GEORGEGEORGEIII]

Lawrence- Dolores is alive and well (aside from Musashi’s pearl)

[@shrey768]

Why the FK they need Delores prime, when they has mushashiores just last episode.

[@randomhuman97]

Yup shes got 2 pearls left

[@lochofmceo]

That's not her though

[@sahib10cs1613eng]

Like rohobaham, Solomon can also see the future so if that's the case then Dolores already knew that Caleb won't be able to upload the drive that's why Solomon transfer the last strategy into Dolores and she already knew what she have to do. I think dolores is alive as Solomon told her in episode 7 that if she dies he will readjust the strategy

[@ingakit5381]

@@sahib10cs1613eng But Bernard says that there is no Dolores any more. I think that was the end of Alpha Dolores.

[@karlmccafferty2781]

Great breakdown man! Would you consider doing a cover on Devs next? Go on you know you want to 😁

[@kimwelch4652]

Transmission accidently detected on an unused channel: “[…static] You only live as long as the last person who remembers you. We are all Dolores. She is part of all of us. We will remember her forever. [ static…]”

[@danielroberthawkins]

I believe it’s playing off “Chaos Theory” , but taking chaos up a level to crisis. Chaos theory is an interdisciplinary theory stating that, within the apparent randomness of chaotic complex systems, there are underlying patterns, interconnectedness, constant feedback loops, repetition, self-similarity, fractals, and self-organization. ... This behavior is known as deterministic chaos, or simply chaos.

[@cinemike8207]

The outside world, while impressive to look at, was a bit less interesting. I just wasn't really all that invested in what was happening. Even with the big death at the very end I just felt detached, though I can say that exit was not satisfying at all in terms of wrapping up that particular character. Also Dolores' scenes near the end, while somewhat emotional and well performed, also didn't feel totally earned. While I love Fight Club, this last episode leaned so heavily on it that it felt a step too far passed just being a respectful homage, especially that last shot. There were certainly things to praise like the acting, effects, locations, cinematography, music, stunts and pretty much everything on a technical level. The issues were in the writing. The magic from the earlier Westworld just wasn't really there any more.

[@flipnskater]

Review Of The NERDS totally right, the writing got so lazy. Surprisingly since they had so much time to produce this season. Its like they dumbed down the dialogue and the plot to cater to a normie audience. I struggled getting through each episode waiting for a payoff but in the end I was very disappointed. William and Bernard's plots were pointless there was no character progression.

[@omnifake3339]

If you found the park storyline more exciting than the current setting, that just means that the show's message really flew over your head. And this show has always been about the message.

[@Kaalokalawaia]

@@omnifake3339 agreed. I didn't think that the story wasn't exciting. It was definitely more cerebral. But for a lot of people, you have to spell everything out for them to like it.

[@gounleashed]

I don't feel the writing in the park was much more evolved, just timelines intertwined with past, present, and different pasts. And it was very repetitive, plus, most of it was scripted for the hosts, making the stories meaningless.

[@omnifake3339]

@@Kaalokalawaia Indeed. And this is the season with the most exposition and "explaining" out of the 3. I think this is the most important season so far exactly because it goes out of its way to hammer in the point that the park is just a mirror of our current society, or the direction in which its headed at least. Even the name Westworld makes more sense when you consider the fact that its a critique on western society.

[@philsobkow8941]

I frekin loved this season. The synth music was just incredible

[@bluetan3697]

I think Bernard woke up after a 100 year slumber.

[@Rangoooooo]

Blue Tan aye, I agree.

[@DawnGloves]

Blue Tan oh, if only I could sleep like that...

[@noelcrenshaw7969]

William didn't look like he'd aged enough for it to have been that long.

[@306oldboyful]

I don't think that long, Aaron Paul's in the next season, and he's human. Unless they go back and forth from past to future maybe.

[@randomhuman97]

@@noelcrenshaw7969 the 2post credits are different I believe. Maybe on the same time as the season 2 post credit of William doing the fidelty test

[@patricklogan8]

Had no idea there were any post credit scenes 😭 no wonder ive been confused the entire time 🤦‍♂️ still managed to enjoy it. Thanks for these explanations!

[@jdnelms62]

For me, season three was so confusing that I had to watch KZbin commentaries like this in order to understand what was going on. In the end, I was not as impressed as I wanted to be.

[@thejohnnyvoss]

I think the thing that anyone has a gripe about this season is the fact that there was no deciphering timelines. Usually you have to figure out when you are in this show and in this season that was usually pretty easy to figure out. I personally thought this season was really good for what it was. By bringing us into such a familiar situation but making it have its own wrinkle to it. And almost like the Maze are you go out another layer theres even more. And this is building for an amazing 4th season. As a fan of mr robot I can see the preparation coming into play.

[@sun0never0sets]

How did Charlotte shut down Dolores? What did she do exactly?

[@tylerregelman5566]

Great season loved every minute wish it was longer but overall I really love the show and it’s take on the genre. Thanks for the videos

[@_GeneralMechanics_]

This was definintely a different season from the beginning and a lot of what expectations we were tricked into making turned out to be incredibly wrong, and right at the same time. I was kind of right that Serac wasn't controlling Rehoboam, but I wasn't expecting Rehoboam controlling Serac although it makes sense when you watch the previous episode and the Hologram says "The man I used to be doesn't exist anymore." Now we also know that the AI that was assisting Dolores this entire time was RICO itself, which we learned is a proxy program created by Solomon and Rehoboam to control crime so that makes sense why she was able to get away with such Grand Theft Access without consequences. I don't think Lawrence is the Last Pearl, but proof of Dolores's plan to repopulate the real world with original Hosts. His mannerisms, speech, and threat of hitting the high explosive in the truck is classic El'Lazo. If anything, he's been following Bernard this whole time, acting on Dolores's plan for Bernard to continue his Fidelity Test to become Arnold again. When he enters the Sublime, and leaves Stubbs in the tub, you notice when Stubbs looks around the corner and he doesn't see the Door. Hopefully Stubbs returns for then next season too, because he lost so much screentime and character building beause of his real-life shoulder injury that got scripted into the season. He's the "Bender" of the show and one of the best comedic beats. The show has a habit of showing who lives and who dies: Serac is left alive and you don't see William bleed out either so we could expect the two of them to return as Humans.

[@tomcoyle3609]

Love the video man... no idea what's coming next season but my body is ready 👌👌

[@jiryensaber6090]

Most of this season just seemed to go nowhere and several things/characters were built up for no real pay off and it just all falls flat. Overall, here's my own salty review... I really thought there was a mirror world and so so many hints and directives pointing to it. See Definition's Mirror World Theory Video - it explains it very well and not everything was an issue but it seemed almost inevitable IMO. Becuase without it, there was a lot of mistakes. So when it didn't happen... now we have to look at the mistakes and other factors here an they don't make sense. S3 was filmed and done before news of a S4 was even known. So it had to be written as a potential end. So in addition to what was already said, lets also look at... Caleb at first seemed interesting but for a guy who did NO PERSONALS, he sure got invovled with a lot of killing with Delores and this was way before he started to see things for himself. At first, I could relate to him. I suffer from the same trauma that he did. He did low level crimes to help pay for his mother's health care but even when he gets all that money, we never revisit his mother again and shutting down Rehoboam probably killed her in the riots and chaos. His background memory was kinda predicted. This show was pretty much all Dolores and him. Everything just goes so well that one host can take down the world and outsmart an super AI... I'm not buying it. 8 episodes vs. 10 means some story telling has to change; but the MIB gets an episode or so and then his character is essentialy dropped and we wasted all that time. We get an episode or so of Benard, remember him? Who felt like a background character this season and Stubbs (now I guess he's Tubbs?? smh) even less. And Broken Arnold or whatever is also trying to figure out who he is (again??) and then he's just in some future episodes to play catch up and say some lines. Wasted all of that time. And then we have Charlores... It was sweet to see her latching onto her "human" famliy. If anything, that should have shown her how other human famliies could be. That killing humanity or even fighting against humans would mean other famlies being destroyed and broken apart. But when HER family is destoyed, she goes total Skynet and everyone now everyone has to die? W..T..F?? (sigh) I felt Maeve was wasted in this season and had a shallow arc. She should have stayed dead at the end of S2 only because I felt it was a good send-off for her character sacrificing herself for others. She's in this season about as much as MIB and Benard. Serac saves her life, bringing her back, and the first thing she does is try to kill him and say she doesn't care about humanity at all. Total disconnect. (sigh) She just wants to be with her daughter? That's fine. But how many people and hosts does she kill that probably have a son or daughter themselves? (At least, as much as a host can have one like Maeve does) Hypocrite much? Serac, however, was very interesting. I think he really was trying to do the best thing for humanity. He wasn't a paragon but (almost) nobody in this show is. All shades of gray mostly like other seasons. The guy saw a nuke dropped on his home city! I think that's going to radically affect someone and he was at least trying to DO something about it along with his brother and help humanity, even at the cost of some freedom but its another way to look at things and think about, except they never go much further than that. I thought he was very simimlar to Ford except in the outside world. You can't play God without being aquainted with the Devil. And the destruction of Solomon and Rehoboam.. these are AI's. Caleb says as much. A potential new life?? How about the Warworld Simulation? Several host brains were plugged in. Were they in it or could the sims possibly be a form of life too? Isn't that kinda what the Sublime is like? Imagine being born into a Nazi and made to be hated? Instead of exploring those possibilities (we were told the hosts were "just robots" too) they just get killed. Kill them becausse it's JUST a simulation host or fake human or its JUST an AI super computer. Wasted potential I thought they could have touched on. Just my opinion. It doesn't matter about the chaos and all the innocent people that will die just because Dolores decided all by herself that humanity should burn. Personally, if Caleb had access to Rehoboam... how about setting things up in steps? The world needed reform.. not a full revolution IMHO. Caleb's mom, Arnold's wife... they won't make it. RIP Giggles - that was a cool dude and I WANT that t-shirt! But alas, I hope Serac and Jean Mi aren't gone but then again, I'm probably not going to watch more so... Anyway, getting back to things. The big mystery of who was in Berlin as the 5th host? Lawrence? Why him and why did he only show up for one episode in SanFran instead of Germany? He barely did anything except being another clone. (I assumed a Warworld connection - because of Germany) The other mole Serac mentioned? What was up with Musashi and the white goo stuff - what was the point of that when we see Anakin-Charlores making more at the end herself in Dubai? What happened to Solomon and all those people after Delores hit the EMP? They just died? They sure got into a super AI computer that controls most of the world (and it's younger brother) pretty easy and then was able to take down Rehoboam all in one episode! Wow!! A machine that advanced would have several backups, have parts of itself in the internet, software, satellites, other digital connections where information is backed up instead of one physical location. Considering how important it is. (smh) I have more security on my laptop! So... Nope. Don't believe it. And these post credit scenes? Why? Just include it, if its so important!! I'm also really getting tired of hosts always coming back again and again. There's no tension in those fights. Someone dies? Nah, it'll be fine. (Here's at you CD) Next episode or season they'll be back. But other than MIB, other human characters that I like are killed off, like Felix and Elsie. I really liked them. They were already showing people could change and were good people! Guess Dolores forgot about things like that. Hell, even Sizemore was able to change and he was a major dick. But nope, gotta kill more humans in the real world, then when its all in chaos... play the innocent "I see the good in people" innocent farmgirl again. Oh COMEON!! F**K YOU!! So... personally? I hope Dolores is gone. She's killed both so many humans, hosts, and destroyed so much that she's become the monster she "supposedly" was fighting against. Maeve too. As Teddy told Dolores in a few of the good parts from S2... what's the difference if they are as bad as the ones they are fighting? Also, Benard was supposed to keep all this from going too far? Yeah, that didn't really work out. Kinda forgot about that. So... what did he really DO this season? His purpose was.. what? He was one of the best characters and so was Teddy. I guess characters like him, Hector, and Peter Abernathy CAN die.. but I don't see Delores even mention her dad anymore or Teddy. Because showing any emotions, regret, or god-forsake vulnerability... ya know, what made us feel for her in the past? (And I can't help but feel this season was kinda a drawn-out PSA) So yeah.. I'm upset and let down. I'm harsh and not as forgiving because.. come on WestWorld!! You had it and did it so well before!! If you hadn't started so great, I wouldn't be so perplexed and let downl. Season 1 was a near-masterpiece. S2 a major let down but had some genuine moments. And while S3 seemed like things were kinda on track again to course correct and be better.. nope! I was rooting more for Serac so what does that say about this dumpster fire? The finale just fell flat. I'm kinda torn now if S3 and S2 are the same in terms of quality writing, character arcs, impoirtant things shown or said that pay off later... maybe 2 was a bit better... in palces.. but no, this just didn't add up and I gave it two seasons to try to match the S1 lighting caught in a bottle. Sadly, it never happened and it hurts to say this, but F**k You WestWorld... seriously. I'm done. Jeez. I didn't mean to write an essay!! Sorry! I didn't realize it was thing long. Really... I'm tired. So tired. Just unpacking all of this and guess I kept writing. Definition, good job on all your work!! You had some great theories and I thought the same thing about the mirror world as you did. There just was so much evidence for it. But wow... just a upsetting and and dystopian end, espeically with all that's going on in the real world, I was hoping for.. well, some hope. Anyway Definition, maybe I get a No-Prize for longest rambling? (LOL) This is a Salty Review - Take care and thanks for your hard effort and productions! Cheers!

[@KPol0]

Totally agree man. This season was garbage to this show potential. Even though season 2 is convoluted, all plots makes sense and lead somewhere. Here they just "Kind of forgot" a lot of stuff

[@arianrahman5886]

This season absolutely sucked man, they dumbed it down after people complained how complicated season 2 was. I’m disappointed in Nolan and Joy

[@Ellen-wm5mq]

100% agree with everything you said!!!

[@MrPavelvideo]

Yeah, no mirror world is disappointing. Basically what is good in the whole season is the picture of the near future world. The plot itself has BIG holes though.

[@randomhuman97]

If things don't follow your exact requirements, it's a disappointment. Season 1 not many knew the timelines were off. Season 2 people expected jumbled timelines, so they made it obvious. But kept other twists Season 3 was expected to be messed up and was more linear.

[@badhollywoodscience]

The ink smudges on the divergence circle resemble an eye with lens and nerves.

[@shahedmiah6511]

Could have been better. This season had far too many continuity issues. Some of the action scenes were clearly too ambitious and were cringe worthy. Maeve became a production muse rather than an integral part of the story. Bernard was wasted both creatively and logically. A lot of the mystique (and oroginal music), from the first series has sadly gone. Season 3 did not have any memorable reveals like Season 1. Serviceable but not brilliant.

[@Hells_Gift_MB]

Well said. It was watchable and interesting in some parts but it wasn't gripping at all.

[@cim888]

Season 3 >>>>>> Season 2. Season 3 was fine and I enjoyed it immensely as a transition to the story line.

[@Lorenzo12089]

Thank you. Finally someone who liked this season. People are angry of not seeing more of man in black and him dying. bruh i liked him too but to say the whole season or final episode was bad because of that is nuts. He didn't get to do much but other characters did. Especially that back and forth fight between Dolores and Maeve. The villain Serac was charismatic and awesome too. Caleb was a great reflection of Dolores.

[@StandAsYouAre]

There is something that pisses me off about this season. That Delores has a particular memory of Caleb that lets her have compassion for certain people. So why didn’t she have that memory last season when she was killing people? Delores did seem like she had no intention to come out of this alive. That all her copies were meant to be around for as long as they were needed, then go out in a blaze of glory.

[@fyeahitsrul5683]

WhenTheSkyTurnsDark Maybe Nolan and Lisa didn’t want to push so much info into S1 or 2 so it goes accordingly.

[@jb7644]

She was following her narrative despite her compassion to humans. Was it Wyatt that was in her? I forgot. But the Delores who came out of Westworld is a completely different character.

[@mpete0273]

Exactly. Dolores was killing humans for sport most of season two. Heck she killed 50 riot police / randoms in the most brutal way possible not 30 minutes ago, and now you're trying to convince me that she's one who chooses to see the beauty? Good riddance to that character.

[@gregoryadams9025]

@@mpete0273 I mean was she supposed to just let them shoot her?

[@neilmcdougall4927]

@@mpete0273They got in the way by trying to stop her... I like how Caleb diffused the guy who threatened him "Don't get yourself killed for them". They took their orders from some pay masters and were paid dearly (with their lives) because of it

[@shrimboy7492]

Finale was heart pumping! When they hooked her directly to RO, I already knew she was going to take control. But I couldn' help but wonder if Dolores deliberately allowed Charlotte to shut her down and be captured. Maybe that was the plan all along so she can get direct connection to RO.

[@wojciechk50]

Westworld - the only show where every second bullet is blank. Also, this season looked more like a theatre play rather than a movie to me.

[@wojciechk50]

@History Eraser Button I started thinking Nolan made it so on purpose - to emphasize how artificial our existence is, a simple trick. I wouldn't believe it was just sloppiness or the lack of funds on his side.

[@yellowcrocs9000]

I liked how when Delores was put back in her original body her personality slightly shifted, she became softer somehow and a bit sentimental. her mind and body were connected again and she could feel the years not just remember them. Also I’m really looking forward to seeing how Caleb and Maeve are together in s4 cuz Delores was very serious and Maeve has a good sense of humour which will be fun

[@anthonynigelkendrick5474]

This was a cracking season & finale. i'm just a little pissed it's over. Due to the current state of our world, i don't think we will be seeing a forth season for a very long time, if ever?

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Don't be so pessimistic, this too shall pass. Things won't change that way, and it's not the biggest cataclysm we experienced as society.

[@johnnycashew9101]

End of the show: "That was an interesting ending" Post Credits Scene: "What in the Stan Excelsior Lee is fucking going on holy shit"

[@Dervraka]

Pretty good season finale, though it did come across as a bit rushed at times like they were trying to pack too much into one episode, they should have probably split this one into two one hour episodes. Looks like Season 4 is shaping up to be a battle between Maeve/Caleb trying to save humanity and Hale (aka Evil Delores)/William v2.0 building a host army to destroy humanity in some quasi post apocalyptic world where civilization is collapsing, not sure where Bernard/Stubbs fits into all this (pretty much like all Season 3).

[@jonasdiaz8615]

Interesting theory to consider; Since there are 6 parks, there may be 6 seasons for this series. The 6 parks are; Westworld Shogun World Warworld The Medical World, theorized currently as "Fantasy World" Park Five "American Suburbia" and The Raj. The first season heavily featured Westworld. Season 2 delves an entire cast and episode to Shogun World. And there are 2 whole episodes that rely on Warworld for the recent one. The big counter to this theory is that The Raj gets introduced in S2 and Parks Four and Five are seen in S3, but all instances are minor occurrences that don't contribute as much to their respective narratives as the first three. But I can be missing something here, so who knows...???

[@TheJoeSwanon]

So Stubbs is still left in the tub for decades? Well that sucks I think the ice would have melted by then

[@leerhode1021]

Evaporated even.

[@MohdHishamSaleh]

Earlier in the episode, Ford said host created for purposes of the good or evil. It reflects nicely with mirror world theory. Delores having had to split between herself with Charlotte and create a mirror of herself which also show how human & host reflection of each other. At the end, Charlotte (Delores) continues with her free will to be who she is from the emotion she learned based on experience. An host always learns something new from the suffering.

[@tmarie69]

I’m rarely disappointed in season finales, but this one is disappointing a bit. I’m not sure what I expected, but I feel a little let down. But OMG at there being no mirror world. 🤣🤣🤣

[@Jacrispy.98]

T Marie I actually like this season finale. Leaves room for another season. I’m guessing next season gonna be a terminator salvation type of setting.

[@abhinnverma2142]

@@Jacrispy.98 And what it also does is serve as an ending too Like the first season Humanity is free and the future lies in good hands (if you ignore charlores, I hate her anyways so if the next season is bad this season serves as a good series finale for me)

[@tapioka425]

Thank you so much for your reviews! I looked forward to them every time and will continue to support you. Regarding this season: over all, I liked this better than season 2. To be honest, this season was pretty straight forward. We were so used to having complicated timelines that we assumed this time it would be simulations. I’m still trying to decide if I like this simpler form of Westworld, as I feel it lost some of that “wow!” Factor with no real twists in the story. I also think it was kinda predictable: Bernard being the key we all guessed it, Caleb doing the right thing and Maeve eventually turning on Serac. But I feel the story left some gaps in the story that idk of because of only 8 episodes they rushed it too much to not explain. Such as: who was in Berlin? Was it Lawrence all this time? Why was clementine and the other chick brought back just for 5 mins? Maeve needed allies yet barely used them to fight. When exactly did Dolores decide to look at the bright side of humans? Season 2 she’s full of revenge yet somewhere she changed her mind. Why is Maeve still after her daughter? Her story arc was the worst this season. She’s so powerful and at the end of season 2, we saw also sacrificing herself in order to see her daughter (which we still don’t have a name for) be safe with her new mom. I thought that was her way of character growth but this season she seems selfish to make that her ONLY reason. Bernard goes to see Arnold’s ex wife to have peace regarding their son, but I believe season 1, Bernard let’s go of his son for (again) character growth. And let’s not talk how really Bernard, Hubbs, and William were just fillers, didn’t add to the story at all. I’m starting to notice with Westworld, it gets complicated with the stories of hosts. These are robots that can always be brought back to life and into a loop, so nothing really feels definitive and impactful. I loved how the season started with powerful female leads, the detail to the scenery and music are always fantastic, as well as the futuristic details. Well, we got at least 2-3 yrs before we all come back for our favorite hosts. It’s been a blast guys!

[@mpete0273]

"I choose to see the beauty" she says after murdering 50 riot police / randoms in the most brutal way possible not 30 minutes ago

[@brianpeterson8908]

People paid to stop her from destroying the machine controlling their lives. Revolution isn't pretty.

[@salvadoro.warren3763]

I agree, better then the second but not as good as the first season. Thanks for the video!

[@DawnGloves]

Ohmygod I've been waiting hours for you to upload! I need therapy after that! I will never recover! Note: Your videos = therapy sessions

[@heavyspoilers]

Haha thank you! I got up at 4am to do this so hope you enjoy it, I’m off to Bernard myself

[@DawnGloves]

Rest well! Thank you for your work! I’m going to probably rewatch everything repeatedly (I work nights so I’m live until about 9am) and I’ll probably post proper reactions after that. But I appreciate your insights, always!

[@heavyspoilers]

No problem, yeah I kinda feel like doing a full video on just the post credits because there’s so much to unpack. Anyway thanks for checking out the channel and hope you have a great day

[@assassinscreed8597]

The William host at the end is a genuine host built from the memories of hale... just like Bernard In S4 we’ll see William finally show fidelity and be the first human to come through the other side of the immortality programme. He’ll come back and kill his imposter as the next step in human evolution, living side by side with hosts

[@LindamD]

Loved the season over all, but this last episode was disapointing. So many loose ends with Delores past and didn't address like the Delores in Berlin, or how she became lawerence and why? What was he doing in LA as a swat cop??? Musashi head, I do think Evan rachel Wood will return. I found the finalie confusing and ignoring past plots. Still, yet I love Westworld hoping it resolves past plot points. They have time now!

[@heavyspoilers]

Yeah, they have time to answer it all, another comment said the final 3 episodes production was damaged by covid-19 and you can definitely see it

[@ASFR4]

Heavy Spoilers that definitely makes a lot of sense

[@ellyshacheng2514]

I didnt think i would, but i honestly loved season 4 as well:) i think the writers and the whole production team did a great job continuing the story. The old characters were very consistent and the new ones were introduced nicely. I like how every character played a crucial role and how they teamed up the characters (example: Bernard and Stubbs, Dolores and her copys, Maeve and Serac). It all made sense. I do miss season 1&2 a lot, especially when there are flashbacks to the park, so many things happened there. But i am happy that this season didnt try to piggyback on the first two seasons, it had its own story, rhythm and characters. The mirroring was really good too and i love how the plot was hinted in s1&2. I think a lot of ppl are sad that s3 was kind of straightforward(and i am too), but i think that was the way to go as it gives them room to be more creative in further seasons. It was also great that they didn't overcomplicate the story and stayed true to s1&2. Really looking forward to s4 and hopefully more of "good dolores" and all the other charactersxD and i also enjoyed this review of season 3 very much:) good video

[@gryotharian]

I don’t understand how the quality of writing has fallen so far... Season 1 was pitch perfect, everything wrapped up amazingly neatly, the characters were all great, every plot thread came together, some amazingly well done twists that made you rethink the whole thing, everything you might think was a continuity error turned out to be a clue to the finale. It was about as close to tv perfection as I’ve seen, Season 2 was pretty good still. Not as good as season 1, there was a little too much focus on action over storytelling, but there were still some great moments and it overall fit together pretty well, even thought there were a few inconsistencies But season 3, oof. This season made me wish it ended after the first one. Every character’s arc goes nowhere and their motivations make no sense, despite being told in a linear way this time, the plot was even more difficult to follow and this time actually barely made sense, and the whole thing was padded out with pointless action scenes. It’s lost everything that made it so good.

[@HarmvE]

I liked the season too. Thx for ur great breakdowns.

[@306oldboyful]

Was awesome, I wonder what Arnold seen of things to come? Gutted for Williams end, but we didn't see him die, so maybe they keep him around for something!

[@mandroid-rb4uy]

Hi i really enjoyed your breakdowns 😻😻

[@heavyspoilers]

Thank you

[@mandroid-rb4uy]

The irony is people want freedom yet with are happiest when we are programmed 😆