What are the BEST 200TW Tires?

[@tyrereviews]

Guys, the Tire Reviews site desperately needs some real world reviews of these sorts of tires! If you have any experience please head over to www.tire-reviews.com and leave a review, it would be really appreciated and it would help millions of people!🥰

[@trackfocussed9810]

You missed the best Tire... Nankang AR1

[@tyrereviews]

@@trackfocussed9810 100tw!

[@MEGAS112]

@@tyrereviews nankang cr1 then :) it's a 200tw tyre

[@Wydarr]

Adding PS4S and Conti SC6 reviews. In 245/30R20 no less 😁

[@michaelluttmer2486]

@@Wydarr PS4S is 300tw, and SC6 I think is 280. Great tires, but not 200tw

[@JaxKiBez]

We need EU version, with threadwear something like 120 and up, Nankang NS-2R and AR-1, Federal 595 RR, RSR and PRO and something in that category!

[@tyrereviews]

There will be one in the future :)

[@Wydarr]

@@tyrereviews Boy, oh, boy... being in Europe I'm SO waiting for those tyres. Oh, and if you do this test, could you incorporate something about heat cycles and tyre life? Pleeeeeeaaaaaaase?

@@tyrereviews can't wait! Please also include a Cup2 or PS4S as a comparison, I'd really like to know how those cheap semislicks compare

[@altypeRR]

Agreed. We need a U.K. track day tyre review. Maybe using something front wheel drive as well like the clio or the EP3 civic type R

[@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast]

Nah you got about 10% of the world racing on those tw. About 80% are racing on this setup right here tested

[@randomtoyotadude8952]

Not that im an expert.. but been working for many yrs with tires.. Im amazed by the work you do.. and that u take so much pride in making the tests as correct as it can be.. i can not tell you how much i respect ur results and work.. Thank you for really enjoyment and informational video..

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you for the kind words :)

[@Skirk84]

You've got some weird data there Tyre Reviews. For me at my local track I use whatever can put down the power or comes in the right sizes. Bridgestone Rs3: 1:48.09 Bridgestone Re71: 1:48.01 Yokohama ad08r: 1:47.98 Hancook RS4: 1:47.45 Khumo V70: 1:47:44 Nankang AR1: 1:47.41 Michelin Cup2: 1:47.39 Toyo R888r: 1:47.13 Toyo R888: 1:46.39 Nitto Nt01: 1:46.88 Bridgestone RE71RS: 1:43.86 Hancook Z221: 1:43.02 Yokohama a050: 1:42.71 Yokohama a052: 1:42.58 Each of these tires lasted me several track days and did 100's of laps each. The re71Rs, and z221 barely made it through a second track day until grip dropped off at the end of the day, the rest kept going for 4-5 track days as well as street driving in between. A052 is my fastest tire even against Z221 and Re71RS I have data for each, timestamps and obviously which tire i was on.

[@billysmith4278]

This is very similar to my experience as well.

[@Skirk84]

@@billysmith4278 I've since gotten in a time with Nankang AR1 at around 1:44* and slightly improved my time with re71RS

[@daniel635biturbo]

Beautiful shots of that old hero of a car fighting for grip ! A BMW from an era when body roll still was a thing, and grilles were normal. ❤

[@tyrereviews]

:D The car flexes so much you have to keep your hands away from the cage if a passenger lol. PS I used to have an E24, sweet ride!

[@daniel635biturbo]

@@tyrereviews Ah nice, not sure if I'd let you drive mine though 😊 You tend to give them a proper beating 😂

[@jfv65]

@@tyrereviews SOME flex in a race or rally car body can be useful. I have seen RWD rally cars where the front of the cage was welded to rhe A-posts but the rear was bolted(!) to the C-posts. On dry tarmac those bolts were fixed for max grip all the time. On wet or dirt roads the bolts were removed to allow the body to flex a bit. This gave a bit smoother transition between grip and slip

[@XxRaceBoy24xX]

I’ve been watching your videos to help me pick out tires for my E24, so cool to see you’ve had one too! Went with the Direzza Z3s last year, still need to get out on track before having a really good opinion. But for the spirited backroad driving I’ve done so far, really great tire. Interested in those BFGs and Falkens now...

[@tajo98]

No one does this kind of review, anywhere. I don't even know what to ask for more. lol Again, thank you for the great review.

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@whoisgoogle]

These reviews just keep getting better

[@TaterSalad123]

Just kicking ass left and right.

[@yoda-1551]

Need a UK or EU version of this video!

[@tyrereviews]

There 100% will be soon :)

[@ghezinho9049]

How many of these are sold in Uk/EU? The only one I've seen for my measure (ass 15 inch) in EU is the A052

[@henriquef1639]

@@tyrereviews Nice, because most of these we cannot find here. Would be perfect to have an EU version

[@stefndogg]

Thanks so much for this! I do lots of Autocross events(200tw being the fastest tire allowed in Street classes), and quite a few track days, so this is super useful. Top job on this.

[@tyrereviews]

My pleasure :) Spread the word!

[@stefndogg]

@@tyrereviews Just sent the video link to a couple trackday/Autocross friends. Im sure it will make the rounds on the forums/reddit as well. Good data for discussion.

[@acemanyellow13]

Tire Reviews hi you can post a full video of you driving round the test track. No comments, just full throttle 😊 If you can?

[@tyrereviews]

I'll see if i can get something up on the tyre reviews extra channel!

[@justjoshin664]

I've got the Falkens on my Miata and the BFGs on the Camaro. My experience with the Falkens is limited, but I'm happy so far. With the BFGs though, in 305s square they provide amazing grip, and they seem to really like heat and more slip angle. They're fastest just a little beyond what would typically be considered the limit of grip. Unfortunately that doesn't really match my driving style, at least not with the Camaro. Being the 2.0T, it's not heavy enough to get the heat. At autox they're only getting into acceptable after 3 runs. I think they'd be a really good match for my old Focus ST. That car ate front tires and was always overheating the RE71R

[@tyrereviews]

305 square!! That's meaty!

[@scotttimmons8775]

I got the BFGs on my Camaro too. 315 fronts 335 rears. I see most guys doing autocross now though using the Falcon 660s. Do they not need as much heat in them orr?

[@devind3477]

Wish the SuperCar 3 was available in this size to see how it stacked up with the rest of the bunch! With all these hit videos i'm starting to wonder how long till Tyre Reviews has it's own test compound? :)

[@tyrereviews]

The dream! It would be the least comfortable tire ever, but have the best steering!

[@tsslaporte]

@@tyrereviews Alternatively you could do another Supercar3 Video and compare it against the Rivals as both come in 305/30-19

[@jerryalbritton725]

@@tsslaporte rival will be faster for sure. I went from RE71R to SC3 and the RE is def a level above in grip and steering. SC3 feels like an OE tire because it is. It's more comfortable, much quieter, etc. The Rival and RE fight for podiums so I think it's safe to assume the Rival is faster.

[@tsslaporte]

@@jerryalbritton725 I agree :D but the SC3s love to keep going so it would be interesting to see them compared directly vs just one lap outright speed.

[@tylerdowd]

Interested in seeing how the new 200tw Contis stack up

[@weedshoes5089]

Awesome review. I've been running star specs on my e36 m3 since the z1. May have to give those Yokohamas a try.

[@PaSe_Miata]

Thx for the test. I really love all your tests. For the European or especially german market, I think you cant get most of the tested tires, unfortunately. What I'm missing are tires like Nankang NS2R, Federal 595RSR, and Yoko AD08R. In the future, I'm hoping for a test with small track-oriented tires. I know a lot of guys I'm racing (german autocross/slalom) with who are using 195/50R15 or 205/50R15. And most interesting tires for me in this categories would be Yokohama AD08R, AD08RS (the difference between the ancestor and current tire is really interesting because I think the old one was a good bit better), A048, A052, Nankang NS2R, AR1, Toyo R888R, Federal 595RSR, and Dunlop Direzza 03G.

[@tyrereviews]

And I thought 17" was small :) Getting a test vehicle for the 15" sizes is tricky, I wonder if I can do something with Lotus

[@PaSe_Miata]

@@tyrereviews there should always be a miata somewhere 😅 But 15inch would really be awesome because today the most tests are always 18 and up. And a lot of these tires you can't find in 15 and if you can I imagine they probably handle totally different than their big brothers

[@David-nb2bc]

@@tyrereviews I would be delighted to lend you my 1993 Honda Civic with K24 swap endurance car running 15" tires for you to test. I'm currently running 245/40/15F and 225/45/15R Hankook RS4 so I'm very interested in the 15" tire category.

[@tyrereviews]

@@David-nb2bc That sounds like a sweet motor! How are you finding the Hankooks?

[@minivanin]

I would of loved to see the Federal 595RS-Pro included to see how it fares. For a budget tire I am super happy with it as an autoX tire.

[@South4153]

this is no comparison at all performance wise. federal is not a real semi, just a very sporty roadtire

[@postalpancho]

@@South4153 many people compete with 595 pros who are on a budget. However it is not a top tier contender. It should be on the list but it likely would have been one of the slowest tires. But the price still makes it worth for many people

[@SL1DEwot]

Please add Cup 2 to the test, even if it's 180 TW. It's still like reference tire for Porsche.

[@RJTracing]

Good job, you hit the nail on the head. I've driven all these ties and my top 3 are the Rival then RS4 and last the Falken. If you want to be fast and are a good driver, the Rival for sure. If you have mild experience the RS4 is the best tire because it telegraphs everything, easy to manage, good progressivity, good recovery pass Mu. The Falken just does everything okay, is like an all season track tire, okay in dry, wet, life time, drop off, and communicate pretty well. Also is okay with abusive drivers. [PS]: next time you're in my hometown, stop by the BMW Performance Center and say hello!

[@tyrereviews]

The Falken was the surprise of the test for me, especially given the price point, fast and consistent. Next time I'll try and include wet.

[@Ben-bg2eg]

Amazing review, incredible the amount of research, testing and calculation you put into these tests. Thanks for doing these and keep up the good work! I think my next set of tires is definitely going to have to be the Falkens since they are priced so well.

[@tyrereviews]

They were mega! Lmk how you find them

[@ShogunNH]

Maybe it's good to add one UHP or UUHP tyre for comparison?

[@Hack_es]

@tyre Reviews , shouldn't the second most bought trackday tyre in europe, the Nagkahn AR-1 be part of this test as well?

[@Hack_es]

AR-1 has a tread wear of 100 I just looked it up. i am not familiar with these numbers in germany to be honest.

[@tire_reviews]

@@Hack_es maybe the Ns2r would have been 200, but it's not that easy to find in the us. I do need to test it

[@jameswilson8820]

@@tire_reviews ns2r is 180

[@tyrereviews]

@@jameswilson8820 I should have snuck that one in. Next time!

[@D1sturb4nc3]

CR-1 is the right tire to be in this comparo. It's a 200 treadwear nankang that aims to compete directly with the falkens and the yokos.

[@BodenM]

Strong showing from the Hankook, I can confirm they wear like iron and are super consistent throughout a track session. They're surprisingly good in the wet too for a 200TW tyre

[@RobbieR987]

Legend! Been waiting for this one for awhile! Thank you! Great data. It’s a shame you don’t have the RE71RS, as here in Australia. Would you agree the top 3 are faster than the Cup 2?

[@tyrereviews]

I would need to test that theory! I would be surprised if they were

[@RobbieR987]

@@tyrereviews interested to see your data! My personal experience was the A052 was faster than the Cup 2, with similar feedback from the time attack groups.

[@DaAnimalControl]

I look forward to you comparing the continental extremecontact force to these tires, especially against the hankook rs4. Both tires seem to be aimed for endurance/longer races

[@SCCAForums]

Interesting, the BFG gets an 87 second time, but never actually ran quicker than 88.2? The actual results read: BFG 88.2, Yok 88.4 and Falk 89.0 (for fastest lap). Would like to Know what the ambient temperature was as well and wheel widths. And what time of day each tire was run.

[@pulpufictione]

The 8 lap average and the fastest laps are not from the same session.

[@SCCAForums]

@@pulpufictione I viewed it as '5 laps day 1' and then 3 laps day 2... when you compare those 5 laps... the times are different. Still would like to know ambient temperature and wheel rim width.

[@pulpufictione]

@@SCCAForums start watching around the 7 minute mark -- the top three tires have an extra day of testing; this is where the 8 lap data comes from. The fastest lap and three lap data come from the first seven laps on day one, which is not included in the table. He was trying to capture how the tires behave as stickers and after a heat cycle.

[@charliehammond7418]

I think Michelin's E36 LTW has probably lead the happiest life of any street M3 in the world.

[@tyrereviews]

Amen

[@ph1lthyvision]

Super helpful test. It's interesting to see how the 200tw category has evolved. I've spent a lot of time running enduros with this tire category, but that was years ago. What a glorious m3!!!

[@civiccrewrojosi]

I appreciate all the work that goes into these testings! All of them! Gratitude to the fullest!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you! 😁

[@mytechgarage]

You should do cheap tire testing like Federal 595 RS pro, Kenda kr20a, and Nankang NS2r

[@Eddie07S]

OMG - FANTASTIC REVIEW! I will say, the review/comments about the Falken 660 are exactly what I have found. I have run those on a mildly track prepped 2012 MINI Cooper S and a basically bone stock 2019 JCW, for reference for drivers of FWD cars. More 2 cents... While I have not driven the Dunlop ZIII, I have driven ZII and the review of the ZIII pretty much matches my experience with the ZIIs. I have talked with people who do endurance racing and the A052 has been identified as the fastest in comparison to the Falken 660 and the 615. So, a bit if a difference in results from different people, different cars and different tracks. That said, I have seen issues with the A052 with chunking on a MINI GP3, which I would consider an extension of the wear seen here. Just something to think about. I had heard that the RE71R ‘Stones were being discontinued, but I thought I had heard they were being replaced, not that there was going to be no replacement. Another thing to watch... Again - fantastic review and exactly what a lot of people I know will be looking for.

[@tyrereviews]

Official comment from Bridgestone is no replacement 🥲

[@Eddie07S]

@@tyrereviews That is too bad, given how good they are. I would bet there are a lot of people who will be disappointed with the decision to not do a replacement. Oh, BTW - In the dry I have run “directional” tires backwards and found them no different from the “correct” direction. I have not heard any issues with doing this in the dry; in the wet, no.

[@tyrereviews]

@@Eddie07S Something to test for another video :)

[@waltersmith3165]

The time, money, energy, and effort to do a video as detailed like this can't be taken lightly. Thanks! You've got yourself a subscriber.

[@sergekorolev8823]

I wish advan neova ad08r were also on the list 🥲

[@michaelpan7737]

Will you test the Nankang CR-1 in the next test? It looks like a hybrid of the A052 and the P Zero Trofeo R. It'll be interesting where this places relative to the top three in this test.

[@xarups]

You made it with the Yokohamas! Thank you very much! Looking forward with the road focused UHPs. Cheers!

[@DontPanicDear]

Epic place 😱 Epic car 😱 Interesting data 🤓 Don’t forget we’re here for more than the data though! I’d love to see a couple of you go-pro fast laps, to get a feel for a lap and the speed 😀

[@FoolishPursuitForce]

Isn’t that Tire Rack’s famous test M3?

[@tire_reviews]

I'm sure tire rack have used it before, but I've not seen that video!

[@jkmason88]

It's Michelin's famous test M3. www.caranddriver.com/features/a15078050/we-drive-the-worlds-most-busted-out-bmw-m3-feature/ I have a 98 sedan, and while I may not have some of the fancy lightweight stuff on my car, it IS still a lightweight compared to almost everything built in the last 25 years, is phenomenally well balanced, communicative, and controllable. It is a great, great car.

[@tire_reviews]

@@jkmason88 I did read that before testing, which only made me more excited! And very jealous of your car 😁

[@jkmason88]

@@tire_reviews Wow - thank you! That's high praise coming from a guy with an E92 (E90?) M3. I love the work you do - your attention to detail is inspiring and the results are incredibly useful. I wouldn't want to distract from the tire work you do, but you've gotten some great experience driving some fantastic cars, old and new. Owning an E36 M3 obviously highlights other aspects of the driving experience aside from maximum horsepower - though I certainly enjoy driving a friend's tuned RS4 and another's Model S. But I'd think tire testing would be somewhat similar in highlighting that power isn't everything. I'd love to hear / read your thoughts about some of them compared to one another, especially through the lens of testing tires where things like outright speed isn't the most important consideration. Having said all of that, I know a man only has so much time in a day!

[@tyrereviews]

@@jkmason88 It's something I'd love to do, but I don't think I'm quite there yet to get the press cars needed for such a test. Luckily there's some very good drivers who have done it, I think carfection with Henry Catchpole did a similar video to your suggestion very well, worth digging out!

[@newcareachyear]

Thanks Jonathan!! This was so needed. Bridgestone RE-71RS would be interesting to see. Shame they didn't give you a set for this comparison review

[@RobbieR987]

Pretty keen for the holy trinity test… Cup 2 Connect, A052, RE71RS… can you make it happen? I’ll send you a box of Tim Tams from Aus

[@tyrereviews]

I'll do anything for timtams

[@RobbieR987]

@@tyrereviews haha I’m a man of my word Jono. When the reviews out, Tyre Review’s HQ is getting a delivery!

[@tire_reviews]

@@RobbieR987

[@TheStaniG]

FINALLY A YOKOHAMA TYRE! Would be keen to see the street/track AD08R in a test. LOVE the testing detail!!

[@redneckvtek]

What were your tire pressure settings? You found some data that doesn't line up with what fellow endurance racers have found - Notably the A052 being faster than the RT660, and the Direzzas being Faster than the RS4 I'm wondering if the michelin test track's pavement is more akin to street pavement instead of race track grade pavement, making the results of this test applicable to Auto-xers but not necessarily enduro racers.

[@tyrereviews]

30psi for all. The Michelin track is VERY high grip, so that might have played into it as we'd have been generating a lot of heat very quickly, and the yoko only lasted a lap

[@PepegaPig]

Sorry to be negative but as a UK or European viewer this is completely useless set of tests. I did watch the video anyway as I am a channel fan, I was also disappointed by the lack of wet weather results. Many times people have these tyres and drive to circuits etc and maybe get caught out on the rain. So the data would be helpful. Virtually all of these tyres are unavailable in the UK or Europe and as such only good to Americans. It might be good to state this at the start of the video so some people don't waste their time. Could something similar not be done to include tyres like the Nankang ns2r, ar1, yokohama ad08r, cup2, r888r, trofeo R and direzza 03g? I'm sure there are others. As these are tyres often used by the European markets. I guess its to drive traffic to your tire reviews site (tyre / tire jokes and all that)! Good luck with that side :)

[@tyrereviews]

Mixing Europe and US tyre testing isn't a good idea, but there will be a euro version of this test soon

[@justjoshin664]

Finally!!! Glad you were able to get a hold of all these for a test

[@tomasengelmajer4634]

Great content and so much valuable work done for us consumers/drivers. I would love to see time comparison with excellent UHP tyre like P4S or Potenza Sport. Thanks again for such high quality content.

[@tyrereviews]

Something for next time!

[@volodymyrshoniia2424]

Looks like cooper is basically Avon zzs, I wonder how zzr (cooper rs3r) compares. Supposedly better in the dry with better wear.

[@chrispantani]

The RS3-R is the ultimate DRY condition tire. That's the tire they should have used for this test, not the RS3-RS (WET race tire).

[@volodymyrshoniia2424]

@@chrispantani exactly my thoughts, I mean no wonder that wet orientated tire performed the worst in this test

[@TranceFur]

Dang, these are all about 30% more expensive than they were in 2021… Hundreds of dollars more expensive per set of 4 in some cases. Not good for the casual track day guy 😑 Thank you for the terrific testing.

[@tyrereviews]

Well that sucks :(

[@markythegreat]

20+ seasons of Top Gear: Tyres? What are tyres? Who cares? MightyCarMods: BrIdGeStOnE PoTeNzA RE003 CarThrottle: “we went to Curborough sprint circuit with a human operated stopwatch and some NS2rs” This channel: SCIENCE

[@tyrereviews]

:D

[@santapodracer1980]

Love the channel but no one in the UK are going to buy these tyres for track. Can we get a review on tyres like NS2R, AR1, AD08R, 595R etc.. which everyone seems to go for

[@philstireservice5476]

Please test the Nankang CR-1 (all the new sizes will be labeled the CR-S until 2022 when all the sizes will have the CR-S moniker). It too is asymmetrical, so it can be swapped side to side. While you are at it, throw in the Continental Extreme Force because it was designed to fight along the Hankook RS4. I'm thinking the CR-1 might just give the Rival a run for its money.

[@tyrereviews]

That will definitely be in the next test!

[@barraturbolife]

Found the A052 video I was looking for, really helpful video. Confirmed what I’ve been hearing about peaky first lap then wearing pretty fast. Do you think you could please do a 0-100 acceleration video

[@tyrereviews]

In cars like this dry tractoin is almost meaningless, but you can look at braking which is like reverse traction. But I don't think I did that for this test either :D

[@OurCognitiveSurplus]

This is really excellent - thanks so much! Would love to see the “100” tread wear rating as well

[@TrackMouse34]

Came here to say this

[@flawedchemical]

What kind of camber did the M3 have? What width wheel? Those are 2 factors that play a huge roll in how Yoks act. Also, we’ve found that the V730 takes a lot of heat to get rid of it’s mold release and get a first heat cycle. After that, it gets much faster. You can also get away with much lower pressures. Anyway...great vid and keep it up!!

[@tyrereviews]

Interesting re Kumho! I'll double check the setup of the car, I believe it was fairly stock Lightweight setup

[@zzzkevin]

@@tyrereviews I experienced some massive oversteer on my GTi when I took a new set of sticker v730 out to autocross having only scrubbed and heat cycled the front tires. Have calmed down substantially since. purely anecdotal, but I concur

[@jamesinoregon1081]

As always Jonathan you are producing the best tyre reviews on the internet. I am curious if you know the hot tire pressures and temperatures after the two 8 lap sessions. I assume starting pressures cold were the same. My track experience is with the Goodyear SuperCar 3 and the Falken 660. The Falkens perform exactly as you describe. Reliable lap after lap with huge grip during braking.. In 90 degree weather they tend to pick up every loose piece of track rubber. The Goodyear, to me is overall a better tire. Thanks again. James

[@tyrereviews]

I've looked back through my data and I don't have a record at the end of runs, sorry

[@MrPizzaman09]

I've done autocross on two sets of BFG's and now a set of Falken 660's. Fresh tires always help, but I found the BFG's to be good at holding up in hot conditions with multiple drivers. The Falken tires are faster in my opinion and have let me have my best finish ever. It felt like you had to push the BFG's harder to get their fastest time vs. a bit less sliding on the 660's.

[@tyrereviews]

Interesting information, thanks for sharing!

[@Talynen]

Hi, I've been curious about one part of your reviews. Since most of the test cars are RWD BMWs with staggered setups, is it possible to make inferences about other applications? Would a FWD hot hatch running a square tire setup prefer different tires than the ones that suited the test car best? The drone shots are great. Thanks for the lovely video and all the work that goes into this type of comparison!

[@wildwillmor]

I track my GTI with stock suspension quite extensively. With no camber and FWD, you chew up the front tires quickly and rollover can be a major problem. For lapping, not in competition the Dunlop’s have amazing longevity and aren’t heat sensitive, however they aren’t particularly quick. I have a 2 year old set that is still good. The Falkens are very fast but they wear quite rapidly and the sidewalls are soft and rollover a lot. My set was pretty much done after a 4-day event. I’ve also run the BFG on a Neon with -4 camber, very quick and reasonable longevity, but very temperature sensitive and sketchy in rain.

[@NedAznir]

Love the car! I took your advise and put 225/45R17 Goodyear Asymmetric 5 on my E36 325i convertible and it feels amazing! Keep it coming. From Malaysia

[@Dan_AYP]

I choose these based on this guys recommendation as well haha

[@petrsulc1168]

From my experience, if you go from dry handling straight to wet handling and do a lap or two little bit sideways, you loose mayority of the rubbber pick up.

[@tyrereviews]

Great suggestion!

[@placesbramlepoops]

Great review!! I think that Falken tyres are vastly underrated. The road tyres are classed as mid range, but really do have a premium feel.

[@tyrereviews]

Totally agree!

[@dakotafire24]

Im curious how the result would change on a less grippy surface. Considering bfgoodrich is owned by Michelin which probably design the tire partly on this vary track.

[@tyrereviews]

There could be some variation, but a lot of people int he comments have found similar on many tracks

[@Stuntzii1]

you didn't mention that the Falken were by far the cheapest and rated 2nd place. i actually have bfgoodrich tires for daily driving (geforce comp 2 a/s) but i would say falken azenis are best just because of the price

[@tyrereviews]

I put the prices at the start so the data is there for people to use :) I should have mentioned it though, you''re right

[@driver46]

Great review 👍 . Thank you for taking extra time to calculate for different track temperatures . Very impresive breakdown and right on point .

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you very much!

[@andrewhedley4354]

When you do the Uk video please do it on a FK8 civic type R. I think you will be shocked at the outcome. I tried Cup2 on mine and it went very unstable. I tried all different tyre pressures. The side walls are too soft for this car

[@paranormal_6lacktivity5.0]

Been waiting to see a review for the continental extreme contact force. Hopefully you can do one soon.

[@tyrereviews]

I have a first test of them in a few weeks

[@enmirc9938]

For YOU TUBE you are the God of tyre test, you help as to bay better products

[@tyrereviews]

:)

[@PenkillerDIY]

Falken going to the top rankings in every test. It's very enjoyable a non mainstream brand to be so good and reasonably priced.

[@tyrereviews]

They're consistently great at the moment

[@babaadonf]

Most popular in US... In Europe we are using : Federal 595rs-r(and -pro and -rr), Toyo Proxes r888(and r), r1r, Yokohama a050, a052(the only one in this test), ad08r, Nankang NS-2r, AR-1, Zeknova SuperSport RS, Zestino, Accelera 651 sport...Etc

[@_xtreme.]

no nankang ns2r.no rsrr , no rsr -pro (they have them in us). for rest respect

[@watermelon1221]

thanks for this video. 200 is the best kind of tires for the enthusiast and it's good to see the comparison

[@racekar80]

The RE71-R to me were the best R tire without going to Hoosiers. Unfortunately they are discontinued, wish you included the Michelin cup2 for comparison.

[@db8rdb8r]

When will have the bridgestone RE71RS and RE12D reviews?

[@tyrereviews]

Bridgestone have a new track tyre due for euorpe soon so next year

[@tyrereviews]

Perhaps it's the actual release of the 12d

[@conanobrien1]

Just for reference, what would be a lap time with this car and good normal summer tires? Rough estimation. I thought lap time would improve as blocks get worn, since there is less movement. Can't you use them, in a dry weather, all the way? Thanks

[@tedtedness184]

Any way to get you to shove a set of General G-MAX AS-05 into a test for us 500 Treadwear users? You have a good connection with Continental, see if a rubber update is in the cards for these tires. I keep questioning my Michelin PS 3+ choice at half life now "slug feel, lack of confidence of knowing how fast to come into a street corner" with my old race car feel General G-MAX AS-05 I knew where I would be at for the most part. Even though the 3+ stick better, they suck for feel. And no to the commenters saying get a 200 to 300 tire as I can't afford new tires every year. A 500 TW tire is a 2 to 2.5 year tire for me, and that works. Us 500 TW guys need your opinion on the Generals. I sure wish General would update the rubber to something just a bit sticker and keep the feel there. Will this video entice you to PLEASE test them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYS6eqSno5h2ibs

[@tyrereviews]

I'll have a chat. Generally higher tread wear is less grip though so there's only so much that can be done for a cost

[@tedtedness184]

@@tyrereviews Yes I know I am giving up grip with 500 TW, thats why I went with Michelin 3+ thinking they would be the best 500 tw tire, but just like your video on the OEM BMW 4s? Michelin handicaps "feel" from us. I mean really my General's have a TON of feel, were the 3+ suck in feel. Generals 9.5 out of 10 vs the Michelin 3+ 2 out of 10. Why do I need to "hate" my Michelin's. Sad to say. That feel can be "tuned" in as we see with the BMW OE video you posted. Please put the G-Max AS-05 in one of your tests as it is a top performer in that 500 wear category. More then most.

[@bigdaddy5212]

So bizarre that the A052 didnt blow the others away.Pretty sure that is the king of the hill tire right now in 200tw

[@tyrereviews]

It seems to depend on warmup, size and vehicle.

[@cmdrratzass7305]

Awesome review, but it’s a shame that the RE-71R could not be included.

[@earlmerz4724]

I’d love to see the Nankang CR-1 tested against the A052, RT660, and Rival S 1.5. One observation I have is that you said the track was an aggressive, high grip, surface. That really does play well with the Rival. But on lower grip surfaces the Rival does seem to lose some time.

[@tyrereviews]

Good data, I'll try and include the CR1 next time

[@Ficon]

I appreciate your extreme thoroughness and expertise. But even more than that, I appreciate the sacrifice you have made of spending 7 hours on a track in a race-prepped E36.

[@bencrowley689]

While hard to get common sizes, it would be great to see top contenders from different tests and TW’sxcompared. The top 3 here vs Cup 2r and Supercar 3, or even the regular Cup 2’s. Throwing in a Nankang AR1 would be nice too as we’re yet to see it make your tests.

[@3rdGenGuy]

A052s are the king of autocross tire, but they just don't have the heat capabilities for track use.

[@ZZ-ed6wp]

Can’t wait for the addition of the new extreme contact FORCE continental / Hoosier 200TW collab. Great review thank you.

[@tyrereviews]

I have a first test of that soon

[@philstireservice5476]

@@tyrereviews make sure you add the Nankang CR-1

[@MitchelYardley]

I just came from a 255/40 Nexen nferra sur4 G to a 245/40 Falken rt660 and my god the Falken blew the nexens out of the water even being a size smaller.

[@tyrereviews]

Now I'm not so sad I didn't get the nexen

[@Henry-dj8dy]

A050 vs cup 2r vs some other 60tw to 80tw tires would love to see these!

[@tyrereviews]

I've done cup 2r vs Pirelli and Goodyear!

[@petercalhoun6150]

PSC2R is really ltd to OE sizes for Porsche GT2RS or 3RS, Ferrari, or AMG in 19”-21”.

[@Henry-dj8dy]

@@tyrereviews seen it!

[@chrispantani]

You should have done more research on the Cooper products. Unfortunately you used the Cooper RS3-RS which is an all weather race tire used for WET track conditions. The RS3-R is the ultimate DRY condition tire. That's the tire you should have used for this test.. RS3-R

[@tyrereviews]

The rs3r is a 260tw tire, the RS was, according to Coopers tw markings, more applicable

[@chrispantani]

xtremetm.net/tires/road-legal-rs3-r/ This is the exact link that takes you to the RS3-R dry race tire

[@chrispantani]

TW is tested by a 3rd party against a government set control tire. The manufacturer is then given a range to set the TW. It’s more important to read the features and benefits of the tire versus just looking at the TW. Cooper offers the RS3-R (DRY) and the RS3-RS (WET) race tires based on the track conditions. Both are extreme race tires, but have different characteristics. Please reach out if I can help. Thanks, Chris (Director of Motorsports for Cooper Tire US). Great work otherwise.

[@andreasmoller6550]

Thanks for an excellent review! Can you possibly comment on how the V730 relates to the V700 and the ZIII to the D03G, which we find in Europe

[@tyrereviews]

I'm afraid I don't know, but I'll try and find out

[@stvutelvc]

Excellent info as usual… but still waiting for an EV specific tyre test (hear the loud groan from the petrol heads... I've probably picked the worth review to ask this question... ouch!). Our 2020 Kia Soul EV (204 BHP) comes shod with Nexen NFera SU1 215/55R17 tyres as standard (in the UK, at the time). Probably the worst rubber I have ever driven on in 40+ years motoring. No grip breaking or accelerating, wet or dry and also very noisy on bad surfaces (standard Yorkshire roads). Only have 7,000 lockdown miles on them, but looking for an excuse to get rid. From your previous reviews, my first choice would be Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2, but just a little concerned that Kia may have fitted the SU1’s as they are more rigid in the side wall to handle the 1780kg kerb weight and instant torque EV characteristics? I keep an eye on what tyres are fitted to the new EV’s coming to market, but they almost all seem to have different tyres from several different manufacturers! Help please (but if you do a comparison vid, please keep away from the Tesla’s and Tycans… and keep it relevant for your regular Joe... on a FWD EV if possible, or at best, something like a RWD VW id3)! Thanks again!

[@tyrereviews]

Goodyear say all their tyres are EV ready, so I guess they'd be a great choice

[@aarons4205]

Love your videos! I think it would be interesting to test fuel economy tires for handling, braking, and fuel economy.

[@TougeTime]

Interesante

[@Dan_AYP]

I'd love to see the new nangkang cr1 compared (which is the 200tw from them, not the ar1 or ns2r) they're much lower

[@tyrereviews]

One for next year :)

[@asalouros]

Great review! Shame the Bridgestone RE71RS wasn't among the contenders. I've been running these on my Yaris GR and have found th to be immense. Doing a review that considered these, the Goodyear Super Car and the Nankangs would be excellent. Thanks for your amazing work great stuff!

[@tyrereviews]

It's a shame Bridgestone aren't bringing them to the US

[@MrWilliam.Stewart]

This bloke is a legend, some may argue he has worked his way up to a dream job, but I'd suggest "worked" is the operative word. Where I live in Shytsville Straya, the Hankoooooks are by far the best cost option, was not expecting them to perform as well as they did, especially when the wear looked to be so low. "Hold it flat Mat, Give it a revin Kevin, You won't bend it, If you don't send it" (ect.) Remember folks, above all, have fun.

[@Kohju]

Federal rsr 595 to the test also 🤔

[@tire_reviews]

I knew there was one I forgot! 8 tires is about the maximum you can do in a day anyway

[@watermelon1221]

federal f60 is where it's at

[@RyRyMTD]

@@watermelon1221 I’ve tracked them and found the sidewall to be far too soft. Fantastic as a street tyre though. Out of the federal range without going to their full slick FZ range I’ve found the RS PRO’s to be the standout on track.

[@watermelon1221]

@@RyRyMTD thanks for your input

[@esametsala3054]

Once again, THANK YOU 🥇👍🇫🇮

[@tyrereviews]

My pleasure :)

[@Danksta911]

First and foremost: great work Agree with the comments that request the Nankang as that is the weapon of choice for many vehicles- especially E36s on the Nürburgring. And the Michelin Cup2 and the PS4S as benchmark from both sides would be excellent.

[@tyrereviews]

thank you :)

[@GridZilla]

Please please please do a review with the RT660, A052, RE71RS and Nankang CRS

[@benbriggs5369]

top notch vid the only other tyres i would of liked to seen is the zestinos rs otherwise excellent vid

[@egekarabacak4416]

I used the Hankook Rs4 s since they came out to the market i knew they were slower compared to top tires but from what i can say they hold up so well throughout the heat cycles i was hoping to see it in the extra 8 lap session, but amazing work! Thank you so much for providing this review and data along with it.

[@baremetalgarage]

I appreciate all the data and attention to detail. The Falken Azenis RT660 is next on the list for the M2C. The last set of RE71Rs lasted three track days :-( They were placed with a set of PSC2s, but man they're so expensive. Let's hope they last more than three days. Not sure why we still can't get the new RE71RS here in the US.

[@PaulChoix55]

you may already know, but the RE71RS is now available in North America!

[@samthing4thetrack806]

this was great! I didn't realize the RS-4 was fast, as the wear is really long on these. The BFG better than the Falken that's a wow too. You should have said more about that E36 tho!

[@gtmotivenft]

Great information and testing! For trackdays I have tried AD08, RE71R, Hankook RS-3 and RS-4, and RT660. I just loved the RS-3 and RS-4 for the durability. I agree the RT660 (as well as RE71R) had immense grip but as a person going to trackdays for fun and not trying to break lap records, Hankooks will be my definite choice. RE71R and RT660 lasted about half as much trackdays as the Hankooks did.

[@tyrereviews]

Sounds like you have a good life :)

[@Dan_AYP]

Interesting that the 2 i questioned were in the top 3 😁 my research did me well i feel

[@tyrereviews]

:D where did you do your research?

[@Dan_AYP]

@@tyrereviews just through time attack, gridlife etc and knowing the car setups and how they should perform

[@Dan_AYP]

@@tyrereviews the favoured tyre in Japan time attack are the yokos for example and the times compared to similar spec cars with different tyres show the difference

[@howardfry419]

Sir, Job well done, "BRAVO" , im envious! Anyhow , the problem I'm running into is finding tyres to fit my "monster" ' 18 ZL1 1LE. Im presently running MP4S , 305/30/19 ,325/30s. I also run in SCCA CAMC so, unfortunately, i don't get to run longer tracks, I wish ! So ,for SOLLO track days I'm torn on what is available in the 200 tw. It's a pain in my back side, because I know the car and myself are capable of better times/ performance but to find a Tyre that will fit F/R for the ZL1 1LE is an issue in itself. Thoughts? HMF

[@shaunelee1314]

hi Jonathan, newly subscribed to your awesome videos, for the weekend track warrior, based on a common semi slick tire, lets say falken azenis RT660 17", in your opinion, for a 230hp rwd, is 245mm better or 225 tire width is sufficient to handle/provide the grip? any general rule of thumb for hp vs tire width? thank you so much in advance.