What do you even do next with Rey?

[@mantasr]

I dunno make her almost kill one of her students and then go hide on an island for a decade. Oh wait they only do that to good characters.

[@hiltwo]

Beat me to it!

[@Lilac-and-Gooseberries]

How about she almost kills one of her students but misses and falls off a cliff?

[@bluehero-96]

​@@Lilac-and-Gooseberries But somehow, she'll return.

[@insane_troll]

Yes, and they could finish it off by having her unexpectedly drop dead for no apparent reason.

[@bluehero-96]

@insane_troll Ah, the "lost the will to live" strategy.

[@Luks2820]

They would probably steal Luke's achievements and stories from Legends and use it for Rey. Building up the Jedi Order, invasions from other galaxies...

[@bluehero-96]

I'm surprised they haven't already.

[@GigglyPigeon]

Two words - Yuuzhan Vong

[@TaraCicora]

Actually it sounds actually like that was at least at one point the plan

[@draynah14]

I just know they all hate Luke Skywalker's guts. A (male) character that goes through actual character development? A character that is allowed to fail while gradually achieving his hard-earned skills? Blasphemous.

[@bluehero-96]

@draynah14 There's plenty of female protagonists, too. Bastila Shan, Nomi Sunrider, the Exile*, Princess Leia, Mara Jade, even Padme to a degree, off the top of my head. It's not a sex/gender thing. It's a matter of personal pride and hubris. *mileage may vary

[@jameslewis7389]

Have luke wake up saying what a terrible nightmare that was

[@illbetheone779]

Seriously, Luke waking up to find this has been a bad dream is very appealing. Jameslewis we need you. you're our only hope!

[@ArchangelExile]

But that's what to do with Luke next, not Rey Palpatine.

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

“The Force Awakens” “The Last Jedi” “From a Bad Dream”

[@maxis2k]

This is what I theorized the third sequel film was going to do. Boy was I naive.

[@woodym2]

Jake Skywalker was cloned from the hand, and was never really Luke. Jake has some of Luke's memories and doesn't realize he is a clone, until now.

[@monohedron9633]

There's no problem to find a new villain for Rey movies. She's a Palpatine after all: just make *her* evil, make her a menace, the new Empress, and have a new Jedi knight fight her. My, even I would like to see that.

[@Veylon]

I thought that was where The Last Jedi was going.

[@SlugfestWizard]

“Somehow the Empire returned”.

[@Thed538dhsk]

Sooo every star wars film except Solo?

[@soriacx]

Somehow Snoke returned. Somehow the first Order returned. Somehow they got at least 5000 Death Stars now. Somehow Kylo Ren returned (but looks different because reasons) Somehow Holdo returned (now the leader of the rebelion because reasons) Somehow Phasma returned Somehow Rose returned (also the leader of the rebellion because f**k consistencies) Somehow Jar Jar returned. ...and they all fly now! Except Lando, he is killed of in the first minute.

[@noneyabizness6094]

I don't think you can fix her. I have no interest in watching a movie involving the character, like at all

[@Elayzee]

Kill Rey off in the very first shot before she says a single word and have the new killer say “Now’s the time to set things right again….again.”

[@warborn_inc.]

I like the sound of this

[@Thed538dhsk]

Why?

[@semperterra3235]

Like in the Simpson's when they kill off Poochie and Krusty the Clown tells the viewers: "Poochie's dead!".

[@Lilac-and-Gooseberries]

Maybe they could have a story where the force is dying and they have to figure out why that is happening. Maybe Rey is the reason, like she’s a wound in the Force.

[@lihkan]

Thats actually decent idea that might have even redeemed a previous trilogy a bit. And we all know its its never gonna happen

[@cam2d2]

That's so sexist. Disney would never do that to their perfect little girl. Rey is not a wound, she's a balm, a tincture, a salve - she only heals the Force. Rey Christwalker.

[@trevorcroft5214]

That was actually an idea i had before 9 came out

[@quercusquercus532]

@@cam2d2 Salve Maria?

[@Thed538dhsk]

​@@cam2d2sooo like Ani?

[@Habu12]

Hey Thor, nothing. You do nothing with her next.

[@Thed538dhsk]

There's nothing that will make you like Rey as a character?

[@Habu12]

@ no.

[@ThanksHermione]

@@Thed538dhsk You're new to this channel aren't you? You can look up the videos where he talks about the problem that he and others have with Rey and the sequel trilogy.

[@Thed538dhsk]

@@ThanksHermione I'm more interested in knowing YOUR thoughts on Rey. How do YOU personally feel about her character in the sequel trilogy?

[@onliwankannoli]

@@Thed538dhskNothing. Nothing at all.

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

Honestly here; we all know only dropping the ENTIRE Sequel Trilogy will get SW forward. It is a dead end. Otherwise: Don't know, don't care. Until a Great Rest, SW is dead to me and ends with Episode VI in terms of timeline. An no, don't care about that Ahsoka series stuff even one small bit.

[@MGSmainthemeBACK]

She becomes the living avatar of the force and also the death star super laser. Also She can do the power of manyyyy so you can have endless Reys Also somehow the empire is back.. again

[@Ihavethetouch]

First Order came out of Unknown Regions, next ones will come from Even More Unknown Regions

[@bluehero-96]

Smug answer: You forget about her. That's all you can do.

[@MegaDarkness5000]

The only thing that would make interested is that Palpatine transfer worked and the movie is about having to end Rey since she possessed by the Sith.

[@Thed538dhsk]

Why would you want that?

[@MegaDarkness5000]

@Thed538dhsk Cause Rey is a boring character. Having consequences for being naive at least would be interesting.

[@Thed538dhsk]

@MegaDarkness5000 what's interesting about making the hero and protagonist of the sequel trilogy into someone possessed by palpatine? Does that feel like star wars to you?

[@MegaDarkness5000]

​@@Thed538dhskWhat's interesting about taking a hero that saved his father and then later becomes a sad pathetic old man that tries to attack his nephew in his sleep cause he felt some dark side coming from him. How does sound like Star Wars too you?

[@Thed538dhsk]

@MegaDarkness5000 It's interesting that this hero parallels his 2 teachers who also became sad and pathetic old men. "It's like poetry, it rhymes". BUT unlike them he learns to care for the generations after him AND saves his sister and hope in the galaxy before he achieves peace in the after life. He actually helps defeat evil before he dies, surpassing his 2 former teachers who didn't do that. It's interesting that he defeats his opponent by not throwing a single blow. It's interesting that even someone so good, doesn't try but does THINK about harming his nephew because of fear of his future turning out bad. It's the same idea as if you could go back in time WOULD YOU destroy baby H1tler? That's a morally interesting situation. Does it sound like star wars to me personally: No. Sounds like an interesting sci Fi story but not a star wars story. Now that I truthfully answered you will you please answer me?

[@JohanMsWorld]

The idea of having Rey facing herself in her Dark Rey form would be a good challenge for her. And even more since we saw that in Rise of Skywalker. As I got it that image of her darkside self was a great talking point leading up to ROS and it might be one of the best ideas ever to spinn on that meeting herself topic. Since many thinks she is a Mary Sue thats really overpowered the one challenge that might be interesting enough for the general fanbase is to meet herself.

[@philippe-cb8wj]

Shelve her. She's a Mary Sue, not an actual character. She was relatable for 15 minutes in TFA. Then the SW universe bent over backward for her. Super gods are boring.

[@AmazingMrMe123]

Characters with godlike powers can be interesting, Atom Eve from invincible is an example to me where she has the power to restructure the molecules of everything (except living things/ around her which is as absolutely insane as it sounds, but she has personal struggles with her relationships and the world is also set up to have other insanely powerful beings that threaten her. Star Wars did not set her up with those kinds of personal struggles and also none of the movies set up other godlike forceful beings that would rival her. They really let her exceed the power level of everything else we've seen and now there's no good way to throw more powerful threats at her that don't feel out of place. They just keep repeatedly writing themselves into holes.

[@wbfwbl8434]

What to do with Rey? Nothing! Her character is a burden not an asset. More Rey = MORE DESTRUCTION

[@Thed538dhsk]

How come?

[@wbfwbl8434]

@Thed538dhsk Rey is a symbol of bad writing for SW fans

[@MikeSandersonVideos]

​@@Thed538dhskgo away bot

[@devilapproved]

A mary sue trilogy. Does it matter what it's about? Just cut out the middleman and flush that money down the toilet.

[@TankUni]

Chewbacca turns to the dark side in the hope of reversing Han's death. But in his search for a tutor in the dark arts, a mystery sith captures Chewie and augments him with lazer eyes and claw hands, turning Chewie into a deadly force spider that can wield twenty lightsabers simultaneously. Spider Chewie and Rey have several battles in which half the galaxy gets blown up from a new fleet of Death Stars controlled by the mystery sith who turns out to be Vader's uncle, Larry. Larry used to be a used speeder salesman on Tatooine until he turned to the dark side to make more sales. Chewie is about to kill Rey when he realizes Rey is not his enemy and together they go on to defeat Larry Vader, after which all the Deathstars explode for no apparent reason other than it looks cool. To be directed by JJ Abrams from the comfort of his couch.

[@alemonster801]

Hey Thor, I don't know about a trilly but a standalone movie with her "Jedi Academy" where one of her students hears stories about her impossible power and use of lightning wants that power knows that staying in the light won't gain them that power as directly as joining the darkside so they kill some of her students to fuel their hatred gaining the power they were looking for so she needs to find them and she uses all of her power to destroy them turning herself more to the darkside but she knows it's not the jedi way she's conflicted so she let's off failing and her student continues to wreak havoc and she inadvertently created a new generation of sith, I don't know that's the best I could think of for a internal and external struggle for this hollow character

[@jeremyfields9009]

An actual character arc

[@ThePeachtree69]

She is a Palpatine. She has evil in her. Make it interesting but she starts working to become the empress of the new empire and she succeeds spectacularly. It’s the only path to use her properly.

[@mkhud50n]

Only thing that would make sense for Rey is to have her turn dark side and be killed off.

[@Thed538dhsk]

Why do that?

[@mkhud50n]

@ because she’s a boring character that most fans aren’t into. And a Palpatine.

[@MikeSandersonVideos]

​@@Thed538dhskYou're definitely a bot for Disney trying to survey the fan base

[@Thed538dhsk]

@MikeSandersonVideos I'm not. Are you a Disney bot trying to divide the fan base?

[@TheChristianPsychopath]

Option A for me is find a way to retcon the sequels. They're such a dead end... shy of that.. Option B Salvage the sequels a bit by revealing that some of Luke's students survived and he had gone to the island to either rendezvous with them and/or act as a distraction. This would help a lot by giving him a reason to be there other than "I give up"... and you could probably get Mark Hamill back to unveil this stuff to Rey and explain why he couldn't risk telling her while Kylo and the Emperor were alive. This would be better if they reintroduce Mara and give Luke a daughter and/or a son who could challenge Rey about the creepy name stealing. Option C (which could work with other two) Lucas's idea of criminal villains would probably be the best way to go. Let her fight criminals or slavers... maybe actually deal with that whole child soldier subplot line they dropped from the prequels. Give her problems she can't just fight/Force magic her way out of. I don't think enough has been done about the ethics of Jedi vs. more mundane criminals. Kylo is dead, thank goodness. Her dynamic with Finn was better and desperately needed more development. But I suspect they'll have trouble getting Boyega back.

[@Starsderhause]

It's pretty simple what we do really... We decannonise her and ep 7-9 and the acolyte

[@ryanmichael8950]

I don't even know what they could do next with her next

[@Buckeyesteve10]

I’m no fan of the sequel trilogy, but Rey being “a nobody” is the one part of TLJ I actually loved. I’ll never understand why that concept bothered people so much. I mean, who was Obi Wan before he became a Jedi? Who was Qui-Gon? I don’t get why some assumed their theorizing was anything other than fun speculation to pass the time between releases.

[@aenguswright7336]

I think the problem with "nobody" was that it has the same issue as a lot of lore that TLJ introduced. It's fine, the concept is great for a movie... in isolation. But it directly went against what had already been setup and established, and not in a fun "you were expecting A, but it was actually B all along" kind of twist, but a conscious and deliberate 'screw you' to the setup. And the audience isn't stupid, it was obvious from a mile off that JJ & Johnson had EXTREMELY different views of where the series should have gone, and in the end it went neither, and both of them where quite petty about it.

[@saberiandream316]

Because she beat Kylo Ren without any training.

[@Buckeyesteve10]

@@aenguswright7336 This is fair. I like the twist in isolation; the idea that the Force could run strong in anyone, even a "nobody", is very appealing. That said, you're right, Johnson seemed to go into writing TLF with the goal of "subverting expectations" foremost in his mind. Perhaps had the "nobody" twist been the only one, then it would have landed, but yes, it's but one of a dozen places where Johnson insisted on mocking fan expectations.

[@doomsdayrabbit4398]

Dead end. There's nothing.

[@bobbydigital8056]

Make a movie where she gets eaten by a Sarlaac in the first 5 minutes. Also, she doesn't pull a Boba Fett.

[@Regibump37]

We have seen the Lego Star Wars specials try to add some depth to the sequel trilogy cast, and since those aren’t canon I guess they could pull from some of those for ideas on how to continue the story. Maybe like Rey wasn’t that good of a teacher because of not truly having a Jedi to guide her (Luke at least got Yoda for the weekend) thus resulting in her not being able to give the proper training to the new Jedi Order, which leaves the New New Republic open to an attack from an Unknown threat (could be the Vang, but we could try something new that plays into the nature vs technology theme like fully independent droids or an advanced cyber race). Obviously I don’t know if Rey would be the main character of the trilogy, let alone if she would even survive to the end, but I do see there being potential for a redemption of her character if given some good direction (which seems to be what's going on this time, as there is one director for all 3 this time round). Though thanks to episode 9 being an abomination, coupled with the other comments I’m viewing, I don’t think many people will be giving this a chance unless the trailer really sells us on Episode 10.

[@paulemge9156]

What they should have done for the sequels is created a new enemy probably from outside the galaxy . Some enemy that interacts with the force in a unique way. Both the new republic and the empire remnants would have to eventually work together

[@PuRe_AdDicT]

Rey is the next Sith Grogu is the next Jedi Don’t remove my comment again KZbin

[@666daemian]

This would be the only non retcon way I would see a Rey movie.

[@Thed538dhsk]

Why?

[@MikeSandersonVideos]

​@@Thed538dhskwill you eff off bot? No one wants to answer you. You're being deliberately obtuse about everything, you're just a bot or shill for Disney. Talking around everyone's points with more questions. Go away

[@michaelstrachan1185]

​@@Thed538dhskTo "subvert expectations" Do you really need to ask why? What else are pu going to do with the character, as i said in my comment and to expand on it, the sequal trilogy severly lacked any good lightsabre battles the Rey/Darth Rey could have been that epic battle that people remembered insteqd it lasted 3 seconds. It solves the question of who will be the next big bad because no one can challenge her by making her the next big bad.

[@Thed538dhsk]

@michaelstrachan1185 Isn't "subverting expectations" bad and we should do that? I think it's best to give fans what they want, not subvert what fans want. Surprising fans and audiences is nice, but it doesn't always have to be a subversion. I think turning Rey into a star wars Laura Croft where she finds ancient Sith and Jedi artifacts with some younger force sensitive friends would be cool for the character. Do you? Are lightsaber battles important? The Original Trilogy didn't have that "good" of lightsaber battles in terms of choreography but the directing, lighting, acting, and emotion from those scenes is what makes them so great not the fighting itself but what the fighting represents. Why not just have a new big bad? Why make Rey into a big bad?

[@thibaud1832]

"Somehow Palpatine returned… again"

[@maxis2k]

Disney: "Somehow....Luke returned. And he's evil now. And Rey is going to stop his misogyny because she's the bestest evar!"

[@Thed538dhsk]

Why would Disney ever make that?

[@maxis2k]

@@Thed538dhsk Because Kathleen Kennedy and various other people on the staff have openly said they dislike men and male figures? And wanted to replace (kill) the legacy characters, which they did in the sequel trilogy.

[@Thed538dhsk]

@maxis2k I understand disliking Kathleen Kennedy's control of Lucasfilm. BUT let's be fair, 1 mistake she hasn't made is making Luke Skywalker evil. She let Rian Johnson make him conflicted and a hermit like Obi and Yoda before him, but not evil. That's 1 line Kennedy hasn't crossed. She also hasn't made Luke a misogynist either. Again another line Kennedy hasn't crossed. Cranky, but not misogynistic. So why do you depict her as doing that?

[@danielchew8739]

​@@Thed538dhsk What makes you think they won't cross the line down the line?

[@Thed538dhsk]

@danielchew8739 i know Kathleen Kennedy WON'T cross those 2 lines because she will soon retire, like within the next 5 years type soon. And she knows fans were divided on how Luke was treated in TLJ. That's partly why in Mando S2 and BOBF that cgi young Luke is being portrayed as more classically heroic and less cynical. Kennedy got the message the fans sent her loud and clear. She hasn't had Luke cross those 2 lines and has no intention to seemingly within the last 5 years or less of her tenure at Lucasfilm. The question is, if Kennedy got the message loud and clear, will you personally let bygones be bygones?

[@terrythompson1873]

They’ll bury Star Wars it seems before they give the Expanded Universe an honest cinematic try.

[@markomuric1221]

I used to be sad about it, but i hindsight, it might be a blessing

[@markomuric1221]

Used to be sad about it, now with benefit of hindsight, consider it a blessing

[@kimwand]

You can't kill the EU, no matter what they try.

[@saberiandream316]

Given how Filoni behaves when it comes to the EU, and he's their top go-getter when it comes to the "creative" side of Disney Star Wars, I'm glad we don't have movie adaptations of EU books.

[@terrythompson1873]

@ Dave is an employee. Not running the company. Everyone wants to blame him when the only thing he’s really doing is following Kathleen Kennedy’s narrative. As company men do. When she leaves or retires, Dave can be judged then.

[@darrengaroutte7744]

Hey Thor, If I was going to push forward having to keep the sequel trilogy in mind, I would pull from history to set up the story. In particular, I would focus on the bronze age collapse and the dreaded foe known as the sea people from the era. My reasoning is that with the New Republic and First Order gone, there should be a breakdown in the systems that run the galaxy, and thus chao would replace and consume routine and order. With the breakdown, some would band together to prey on the weak, raiding worlds and cities once protected by the rule of law to gain dwindling supplies.

[@gamingguru2k6]

When you have a character infinitely capable of fighting and winning, then give them challenges no amount of violence is able to solve.

[@ChoseeComprende]

I want some simple villain next ... Prehaps just a Witch from Dathomir that would be angry on the whole galaxy bcs of what happened to her people ... and simply decided that if she was going to suffer such loss, then rest of the galaxy should aswell ... Its simple ... but it could work.

[@saberiandream316]

I want them to leave the Dathomir witches alone. Filoni has already butchered them enough.

[@Cornel101]

There was a time when Rey could've been a compelling and likable character, however that ship has sailed, and by sailed I mean another ship crashed into it, breaking it in half sending both into the depths below.

[@aolive11]

Hey Thor, do you think something like the Yuuzhan Vong or the Gryysk could be the threat this new trilogy needs? As much as I hate the idea of a Rey Trilogy, this type of villain could be the one thing that would interest me. I know with the Vong people would make tons of comparisons to the books, but I think the Gryssk, who really haven’t been explored much, could give them some leeway to do what they wanted. I’m curious on your thoughts, thank you for your videos!

[@neomatrix4412]

Baylan changes the time line

[@jdstudios1912]

Trying to do a light dark contention for rey is too late. We've already seen her easily resist the temptations of the dark side.

[@michaellane5381]

That's why this time they give her a true enemy like a crippling food addiction...

[@juancodina7842]

Hey Thor, Jedi philosophy and its relation with day to day life might be a positive and fulfilling topic for a whole video. I'd very much would like to hear your take on this topic

[@stevensolomon9512]

What to do, indeed. I used to run a _STAR WARS_ homebrew RPG based on Savage Worlds with my own Force rules. The campaign was set in the Original Series era, beginning shortly before Luke blows up the first Death Star. My biggest challenge was coming up with something or someone new for my players to combat. I didn’t want every scenario to be, you see some Stormtroopers, who say, “*click* There they are! Blast ‘em!” and then miss most of their shots. It was challenging even though my characters were not central to the movies’ plots, so I didn’t have to worry about contradicting established canon events. (I decided that the Prequels and the Original Series were canon, along with “The Clone Wars,” and I sampled from the old Expanded Universe as I saw fit. I was pretty sure that the Sequels were NOT going to occur in my game universe.) But despite the much greater freedom I had, and despite the immense size and scope of the SW Galaxy, I still struggled to come up with new challenges that still felt “STAR WARS-y.” Disney’s writers have a forbidding task ahead of them.

[@echo5327]

I think she’s absolutely saveable (although I don’t think it will happen). She’s not annoying like a lot of characters like her are. She’s just ridiculously op. I would have it so that it turned out she was drawing most of her power from her force dyad Kylo. When he died, she lost a lot of her power and basically started from scratch. However she still has connection to “all the Jedi” so she uses their wisdom to try and rebuild the Jedi order

[@yardene3426]

Finn turning into a complete BA would be worth watching.

[@logoff7191]

Quite simple: Begin the Movie with Rey waking up right next to her hut on Jakku. She had some wild dreams last night. About herself using the Force, training with the legendary Luke Skywalker, becoming a Jedi, falling in love with a Sith and overthrowing an evil galactic power called "The First Order". She then rubs the sleep from her eyes, eats breakfast and goes off scavenging like she always does. And now you can tell a story about her - or somebody else - while having undone the whole of Episode 7, 8 and 9 with a simple story twist.

[@CodyCEngdahl]

I've already written the script for the new trilogy Episode X: Finn, "Rey!!!!!" Episode XI: Finn, Rey!!!!!" Episode XII: Finn, Rey!!!!!" Thank you. You can just send me the check in the mail.

[@hadzhere]

hey thor. i'd restart the rankings entirely. gets around the 4 vs 5 limits and enables many who probably never got to vote to do so for their favorite characters.

[@plasmaarmelund]

The Emperor could return again.

[@Ihavethetouch]

Rey only checks one box, they could make more diverse character take her place. Surely that would be great, right?

[@LeslyeDestroyStarWarsHeadland]

My dream come true!

[@Demishadow23]

Hey Thor - About your comment today about Star Wars shows having shorter run times. I'm wondering if there is more to this than we think. In early interviews years ago I recall John Favreu saying Streaming gave them the freedom to do as much or as little time per episode as they wanted to tell the story they want......however over the years we have seen more and more SW shows with shorter run times. There was a suspicious interview with Leslye Headland where they asked her about a story beat they hope she explores further in season 2 of the Acolyte. She said ---- "I wish we had the time to explore that in season one but it just wasn't possible. We didn't have TIME". The average episode length of the Acolyte was like 30 minutes so I just don't under stand where she was coming from. It made me wonder if Disney is managing the shows run times and saying something to show runners along the lines of "You get X amount of minutes total for your season. No more no less. Each episode can be as long or short as you want but you get a total allotment you can't exceed". It makes me wonder if they are restricting the times a show for better tax breaks (Maybe???) that they get for making shows over seas in the UK and other places and also part of the general cost cutting measures they want to do. I don't claim to be an expert and maybe I'm totally off but it just seems odd to me that Headland said that like she had no choice (Not making excuses for the Acolyte. It was awful. Just using it as an example) and that a lot of SW shows seasons seem to be of comparable length with the exception of Andor. Why do you think the SW shows are getting so short in length.

[@obesebird]

You make her hide on a island drinking green milk directly from a aliens teet

[@Zanimator360]

Alright that's it, bring in Darth Jar Jar

[@joeyy7904]

Hey thor what do you think of the idea that they move 100+ years into the future where grogu has started a new jedi order (he would have to be able to speak of course) but with this new order he now has a couple generations of new jedi (we'll say somewhere in the 30-60 range maybe) at some point though a group of students leave, get expelled something along those lines and that group goes onto form a new dark order. Obviously one of those students would of had to have great potential and they would become the leader. This group starts to grow in power similar to how maul did in later clone war seasons. I feel like this would be a great way to get away from the current time area they seem to be stuck in and without going backwards either. Grogu is obviously a very popular character and you could potentially have someones descendents be students in the order. (Not a necessity but disney loves nostalgia and all) i feel like this could give them a fresh start with a whole group of darkside users to be the big bads sort of speak, while simultaneously having a new group of jedi both young and experienced having already been through a few generations of training already by grogu. I dont know, maybe its something many people have suggested but i at least have never heard anything like this outside of just saying they could move forward. I just think Grogu is a perfect bridge for this with his long life span.

[@aquaarietta]

I say just go ahead with the polls with 4 options and make a brief note in each new battle of the heros and villains video about the discrepancies in the rankings. OR you can just lump D and F scores together to rescore the old rankings?

[@user-ew1td3fg1mp]

Hey Thor, I think Rey and the sequels could be saved. It could come to light that Thrawn was behind the Sith fleet and the palpatine puppet, but not to fight the new republic [the first order was there to do that as a distraction], rather to face a bigger threat from say the new galaxy. With the Sith fleet destroyed, the OG is effectively in peril at the start of episode 10. Rey is central to the defence of the OG, but in twist, the new enemy are not force susceptible, except it is found, to the dark side. This leads to 'dark rey' [already foreshadowed], and her journey through that, with her final redemption in death, possibly even at the hands of Finn. I know you don't comment on plot theories, but FWIW just some top of mind thoughts.....

[@jimbass1968]

Two ‘next’s.

[@WhiteDireWolf_217]

We need a new class of villians! Here me out: Space Vampires, soul suckers that feed on the living force like dementors from HP. Just spitballing!

[@theNDinspector]

“Somehow, Palpatine has returned…again.”

[@cuoy13]

What's crazy is that Han mentioned this in the Legacy of the Force novels lol. But that's also one of the things with the EU, it's like they killed a Sith or a fallen Jedi, just for another one to pop up, a few years later.

[@malkmuslistener5459]

leave it to the Star Wars writers, i'm sure they could have Rey find some way to do the Kessel Run faster than Han ever could.

[@jarbear2179]

Rey’s greatest challenge is good writing.

[@AFoxdaleDeathPA]

Hey Thor, I’m curious of your thoughts about how they will handle Rey in any upcoming Star Wars movies. How much damage control could they possibly do to her character before it begins to come off exactly like TRoS? Will they have her “pay her dues” so-to-speak and EARN it? Personally, I’d only like to see her return if it also features her demise before the ending.

[@Paradox-es3bl]

Rey is apparently ALL the Jedi and ALREADY DEFEATED ALL THE SITH in Palpatine. They screwed themselves. She can’t be challenged. And presumably, given how that came about… NO FUTURE JEDI CAN, EITHER. Only going back in the timeline could provide any challenges for any characters. They literally made it impossible for the good guys to be challenged in canon now. 🤷‍♀️

[@RextheRebel]

I would like to see Rey turn to the dark side. Its easy to be against the dark side when the Sith have power. But once that great enemy goes away and you realize how many problems the galaxy has, its not so easy to remain dedicated to the light side of the Force. You realize that the dark side exists for a reason and without it, the galaxy is not at peace but rather torn to pieces. It takes a powerful Force user with a vision to bring balance and order to the galaxy. So for non selfish reasons, Rey turns to the dark side and learns how to become a Sith Lord. She must not resist those who would get in her way to bring said order to the galaxy.

[@ardendragoon8792]

The only way to fix her is to make her the villian. She is a Palpatine. She gave Palpatine what he wanted. She ended him, now he is in her.

[@pringlesman25]

She had her shot, got wasted and eventually forgotten.

[@johantolli372]

Im not sure that Disney Lucasfilm can do anything other than Republic vs Empire. The fact that they are wanting to focus on Rey again just proves once more that they dont know how to innnovate the Star Wars IP. What Star Wars really needs is a completely clean slate. New characters and new stories in a time period and part of the galaxy where no references, cameos or callbacks can be done. We dont need more Rey, Vader or Ahsoka. The 60 years or so from before the Prequels to the end of the Sequels have been thouroghly explored. Star Wars desperately needs to step away from this time period and everything that ties in to it. But they never will. The name Skywalker is to valuable despite how oversaturated and abused it has become.

[@michaellane5381]

What they really need to clear are the slates of escalation. They could tell stories of force users "only in the building" as long as they stop making everything universe ending threats. They could easily do 50 TV shows with 5+ seasons in the relative time period(they need to Retcon the sequels, so nothing post Rey being on the world she started on in TFA) if they would only focus on local economies rather than galactic scale crisis.

[@mariebrundridge2679]

I really wish that if another Star Wars movie is made, they would bring back Finn also Ben Solo/Kylo. They were the best and most interesting characters in the sequel trilogy.

[@joshnicklas7213]

They should do an advanced AI nanobot system that is trying to understand the force and figures out a way to wield it in a strange way. Basically I want more droids!

[@Radwald]

I want a Poe /Finn movie, they have great chemistry together.

[@BingleBonko]

All you do. And I repeat. All you need to do with Rey is exactly what Palpatine said he was going to do. He corrupted and took over her body and Rey is effectively dead. Now Palpatine is out skin walking as Rey, pretending to be Skywalker and building up a "Jedi academy" but it turns out some students are going missing as it is later revealed that Palpatine is cornering the students struggling with the dark side to either join him or be absorbed into him. Boom done

[@Zarie_Rose]

Somehow Palpatine returned again?

[@just-russ-83]

Trans Palpatine…

[@Ihavethetouch]

​@@just-russ-83"My mistake both times was my gender. Now I am invincible!"

[@grigapau]

You make her parts of Legends. The Disney trilogy and their TV series, alltogether.

[@saberiandream316]

Rey wasn't written for the Legends universe, she'd break the universe if she was jammed into it even more than Ahsoka did.

[@Lord-Emperor-Vader]

Use Google polls if you have a KZbin account you have to have a Google account. Plus you can add an S tier and redo everyone if you really wanted to. Also do the HK video or another Meme Monday theme will be coming.

[@niccistarkiller1131]

Hi Thor We all know why TFA ended like it did. Rian told JJ to change his ending, cause he had a better plan for Luke. (a plan that made KK give him a trilogy) How do you feel the chances for the sequels would have been if JJ would have stood up for his plan, and Rian (or preferably someone else) had that positive ending to work with. Up until then I didn't have that much problem with Rey, I even did think that she had som early Jedi training before she was kidnapped, and that was why she could use the force.

[@monkeytron5061]

They could bring in the Yuuzhan Vong but I don’t think they are even that imaginative.

[@saberiandream316]

They're too hardcore for Disney Star Wars. It's why I keep telling people, DON'T support the KOTOR remake. If they ever get around to remaking KOTOR 2, Darth Sion is going to be _heavily_ censored.

[@draynah14]

Maybe if they found a way to kill her off in an even more pathetic way than Luke, I'd find it in my heart to despise them a little less...but nah, she's their "most valuable asset" lol.

[@kaleiohulee6693]

Hey Thor, as a Last Jedi enjoyer I've always been confused by the levels of hatred people have for Luke's portrayal in that film. That it somehow "ruined" his character. Force Awakens had set him up for failure and Last Jedi managed to completely turn that around for me. The parallels to his masters and the ties to classic Jedi philosophy were strong and Hamill gave his best performance of the franchise. To me Luke was the only legacy character that got a proper send off. I'm curious for your take on his passing or how it compares to other Jedi because I felt it was the most emotionally resonant one of the franchise next to his father's. Luke sacrificed himself to achieve something impossible. He turned the tide by outsmarting and not by overpowering. He was able to save his friends, embed fear in the the First Order, and become a canonical legend to children. In addition to all that he got to pass peacefully into the force when most did not.

[@GrievousReborn]

While I would love to see Heroes versus Villains come back usually the only characters that ever got upvotes were Canon characters I wanted more Legends characters but hardly anybody upvoted those suggestions

[@musiciansnight]

The Yuzann Vong (or however it’s spelled).

[@Paul_McSeol]

Hey Thor, for the Rey trilogy, is it time to bring in the Yuuzhan Vong or an equivalent outside threat? You spoke of needing a challenge for Rey that isn’t yet another Palpatine clone. Based on the Thrawn we saw in Ahsoka, I don’t think he’s up to it. (EU Thrawn would have been). Or should they create something totally new? Thanks, and have an awesome day.

[@stu729]

I mean, they've done it before, so they could just go this route again: "Somehow the Sith returned."

[@jasonpike5821]

Abeloth. Bring back Anakin and Rey assists him in containing Abeloth. A Skywalker in the World Between Worlds and a Palpatine in the real world. That's my only idea on how to salvage this situation.

[@jrokur551]

Hey Thor, I was thinking again about the Rey question. I think one of the easiest things to do with the character is to flesh out what the sequels could not. I was thinking of this in the sense that personally I feel like Ive have had to re-learn many lessons over the course of my life. Maybe this would humanize Rey much more regardless of any other issues fans may have. What do you think of this option instead as more realistic?

[@maniacalmatt917]

They'll probably do the Vong or Abeloth, but bad, using Rey instead of Luke.

[@longtsun8286]

Well said.

[@jcrazy9008]

Hey Thor, when it comes to the poll i know jomboy media when they want a vote on something they put a community note with a link to some google sheet. everyone can vote once so no spamming. also no account with google needed. and then you can have as like 10 options if you want

[@jeffreyroedel9804]

They aren't going to lessen Rey's power or make her "rusty" or give her a real challenge personally, like something she has to overcome within herself. So I think the only move they can make is to turn Rey into a pacifist. Real vibes like Yoda in ESB: "War does not make one great." This way she can remain uber powerful but she doesn't go out and do the fighting and dominate in the next movies. She could be like a stoic Jedi Master for the younger generation. That's how I see it going down, anyway. With her quoting Luke and Leia to the younger students. Honestly hope her screen time is limited, in favor of focusing on other characters. Finn is much more interesting, too, hopefully he has more screen time and more of a character arc in a new series than Rey.

[@caseyjp1]

I would have suggested X for the polling, but they only do 4 options as well. Heh.

[@semperterra3235]

The problem is that the OT was a classic Campbellian Hero's Journey that was completed in Ep IV - VI, with Eps I - III being dependent on the OT for its story, but when Return of the Jedi concludes the story is over, it's done. There is nothing to do with the Rey character because she is merely a Disney creation aimed at making money, but she has no story of her own.

[@FKA_Skull]

Put her up against the box office, I’m sure it’ll defeat her no problem.

[@evanatorextreme1065]

Give her a saber staff (double bladed). That’s it.

[@jrokur551]

Hey Thor, I was thinking about the Rey question, I think the easiest route to take is to de-canonize the sequels. That way you can retcon Jake Skywalker, arguably the biggest issue Ive heard fans have with Disney Star Wars, out of the picture even if they do go ahead with the Rey films. Very unlikely to happen, but what do you think about this topic?

[@HappyPursuits]

Rey is PREGNANT with Skywalker twins.

[@MarkCatalano-q2l]

Who would be the Father?

[@HappyPursuits]

@ When Kylo Skywalker (bc his mom is a Skywalker) saved Rey, by transferring the Force to her, Kylo died and Rey became pregnant. Thats why she returned to Tatoonie, and why she buried two lightsabers, and why she named herself Skywalker. It’s the same as Anakin’s mom said, “he was born without a father.”

[@imperfectionist2575]

To keep scores in polls comparable it would just require multiplying the average stars by 1.25, harder to say how best to condense the available answers... Sucks that KZbin further limited an already lackluster feature.

[@SuicV]

Damn, didn't know youtube polls only supported 4 options now. What a bummer

[@topoman1113]

Hey Thor! A big fan, love your content, just for fun this time, let's just say you're the head of lucas, and you're tasked to find an interesting IP to cross over with star wars, what would you choose?, maybe predator?, alien?, transformers?, star trek?, why and how would you do the crossover?, have a nice day man!

[@liljenborg2517]

"oh, hey, there was another Palpatine level sith hiding all this time in a distant part of the Galaxy" Um, that Star Wars EU 101. That's the whole setup for Star Wars The Old Republic Online (they do it TWICE!) There's ALWAYS another Sith lord out there waiting, watching, planing, manipulating, if not whole Sith cults. And even then, if you actually manage to run out of Sith, there's always some fallen Jedi who will start the Sith up all over again. But, there are ways. There are other villains in the Star Wars galaxy besides Sith. There are Hutts and other criminal organizations. There are corrupt governments and petty warlords. There are planets with monsters. Back in the day, other than the movie, the only Star Wars we had besides the movie was _Splinter of the Mind's Eye,_ a novel about Luke and Leia hunting through a swamp looking for an old relic. You don't NEED every Star Wars story to be some galaxy level threat. In fact, it would probably be a good idea, if Disney ever wants to try reviving Star Wars as a movie thing, for them to start relatively SMALL and build up to a galaxy level threat.

[@negativerush]

The only option is to remove her entirely from the story.

[@totalyspy1]

Hey Thor do you think vibro blades should be in the Star Wars universe or no?