What does SCIENCE say about oils and butters? | No oils no butters trend

[@NaturallyHigh]

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[@evethenor]

I learned to stop listening to this natural community and to listen to my hair. You have to find products your hair likes

[@sibongilekubheka6101]

Amen

[@TheMspoodle2]

True

[@cocoliwise]

I agree.

[@thepolishednewyorker]

This was my solution as well. Take bits and pieces, be open to learning but ultimately do what's best for me !

[@Sunshine_Hime]

KZbinrs that make scientific hair videos like: Green Beauty, Afope Atobeyi and Curly Chemistry, helped me to find out what my hair liked. They also debunked some of this trends.

[@kaytee789]

I did stop using oils and butters several times but my hair was rough, dry, and it broke easily. My hair just thrives with butters and oils. From what i observed many people who were having issues with butters and oils where using too much and too many products and having less wash days

[@NaturallyHigh]

Thank you for sharing your personal insights with us. I'm glad you know what works for you.

[@msjennable]

My hair would jump ship without oils😂

[@LadyT06]

Same here😫,my 4z hair can't live without both oils/butters.

[@tsuronhema3235]

I've noticed the less washing being detrimental too, at least when using oils and butters. Also not applying a cleanser to the entire length of the hair.

[@iamsol4916]

Same ! Oils , butters & oil sealing are the only things that helped my hair retain moisture from the root to ends . Without them my hair growth was stagnant and at the same hair plateau for years despite protective styles

[@ebony618]

I personally don't use oils or butters anymore and my hair is thriving. My sister on the other hand uses oils and butters all the time and her hair is also thriving. I'm of the mind that if what you're doing is beneficial to your hair then keep doing it. If you get to a point where it's no longer working then switch it up.

[@TriggaTreDay]

So are you predominantly using creams?

[@eberechigoo4695]

Please what are you using in the place of oil and butter

[@TheMspoodle2]

True

[@welliminitnowso]

I’m thinking of stop using oils … it doesn’t absorb and leaks onto my pillow case

[@marlak4203]

Yes and the thing too is there are multiple avenues we all can take to get to the same result. That's all this is. There is no absolute in this. What I have learned to do is watch/skim many videos over some time. Pull out the common denominator they are all saying that grew their hair. Techniques, products, tools, etc. And then once you get the common things to use then you have to fill in what products to use. Trial and error will have to occur, that's just how it goes, but once you find things that work then stick to it. Always remember it so that even if you try something else for a while you know for sure what works for you to fall back on.

[@imdifferent7294]

Your beauty is striking.

[@NaturallyHigh]

awwww thank you!!!

[@positivevybes247]

So, what i think people should be doing is, to avoid build-up from butters and oils, incorporate clarifying shampoos to their regimen...maybe fortnightly...I'm a strong believer of oils and butters and I feel like black hair responds well to them...however, to each their own.whatever works for them

[@IndigenousStrandz11]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 well done beautiful ❤️ also can we appreciate the time and research u put into this video🥳

[@NaturallyHigh]

Thank you for your appreciation and for gracing us with your presence in the comment section, Oshun ✨

[@NaturalVeganLove]

The detox is to get black women to start washing their scalp AND hair strands with clarifying cleansers. Butters and grease will dry the hair out over time if not washed out to allow proper water penetration. Current grease user and clarifier ✋🏾

[@yassine8935]

That's not really true oil still leaves your strands if you oiled your hair Monday in-between wearing it out , touching it , styling , sleeping in it your not going to have the same amount of oil in it .

[@tribejamette872]

I am not a "trend" follower so the elimanation of oils and butters is not a train i will hop on however, the video was clear, well researched and presented well. The science explains my trail and error over the yrs so I will stick with my oils and butters.

[@justincase1034]

Ppl should continue to do what has been wrkn for their hair. One size doesn’t fit all.

[@anika.c1063]

Personally i always find my hair did not thrive with heavy creams and butters. Id twist my hair and application would feel so good. But once my hair dried, it would have me questioning where is the moisture. What this hair detox showed me was the importance of properly cleaning my hair. I no longer apply oils to my hair and my hair does not miss it. Hair mousse works alot better than creams for me. I think i was confusing "moisture" with a film/coating from those heavy oils and butters

[@Lifestyle_withsk]

Guess I'm the only one who's never used butters or know what it even is 😆 I use oil and will never stop! My hair grew 14 inches in 2 years I'm good with that

[@dearinsomniadontletthebedb9237]

Mango butter.. shea butter.. cocoa butter...

[@Lifestyle_withsk]

@@dearinsomniadontletthebedb9237 oh, lol I use cocoa butter lotion on my skin if that counts lmao never used the rest have no intention of using it either

[@digitallocations1423]

That's really impressive! You've been retaining your growth. I only learnt how to do that this year.

[@lesliewit]

This keeps coming up over and over in the hair community and I don't understand why. We don't need to completely go without oils and butters. We just need to thoroughly clean our hair of the product that we're putting on it on a regular basis. I don't know who's been telling the kids that oil is a moisturizer. It has only ever been used as a protective layer to keep your hair safe from air pollution, dirt and chemicals, and sun damage. Thas it! The rest of this stuff feels like marketing and a new topic for the videos.

[@Aaa-te7ei]

totally agree! we already knew that Liquid comes first in LOC. I think also we need to drop the cheap products too. instead use either higher quality products (expensive) OR use the raw organic product (inexpensive). The fact that they are anti DIY and Raw product is a step backward imo

[@SabzKhumalo]

Yes, it's only ever been a sealant

[@annacopeland6339]

Vaseline IS a moisturizer... I'm a BLACK COSMETOLOGIST...

[@cibu8163]

This is what the natural hair community needs. More scientific proof for our hair. it's generalized and inclusive to ALL hair types.

[@lanrefamojuro9464]

You would be a GREAT TEACHER/Professor! You do a great job of explaining the various studies.

[@ebonylilyofzion177]

Whenever someone says not to use oils and butters I instantly stop listening. I stop listening! Lol. Beautiful video super informative. Thank you!

[@travelgirl7967]

Best video on the subject! It's the science for me. The most science the 'oil-is-bad-for-hair' crew/cult can muster, is that 'oil and water don't mix', which doesn't disprove the beneficial effect of oil on hair. That's all I've seen them regurgitate when challenged. Meanwhile you and plenty of others have fabulously long healthy hair and use oils. If oil was so bad, why do our own scalps produce sebum, which a natural oil?

[@jjwms33]

People have been using oils for thousands of years! At some point humans would have stopped way before 2021 if they thought the oils were damaging! I'll follow the people who have hair length and strength I like and go with what has been working for me. Oils! Its in everything anyway! Who tryna look for oil free shampoo, conditioner, preepoo, and cream! It seems like a reach to me!

[@chiquitafederico296]

@@jjwms33 That was the point, that the use of raw oils and butters is redundant because it's already an ingredient in about all hair shampoo, conditioners, and even gels and mousses.. I am really seeing alot of folks heard something and just ran away with it opposed to learning the full scope of what "no oils/no butters" entailed..

[@misskaymbee]

I have high porosity hair. So sealing in my moisture with an oil or butter is a staple for me especially in the winter. I also make sure I shampoo every other week and clarify once a month.

[@crystalwaters513]

when you clarify, do you follow up with a moisturizing shampoo?

[@lisaj4441]

Great post. I love that the scientific sources are documented here. Anecdotally, I tried the challenge and my hair started breaking because of the increased friction that you reference. Also, the gels and mousses, caused excessive dryness and brittleness.

[@SabzKhumalo]

I have tried gels and mousses, I don't like raw gel, rather a custard on my hair which has butter in it.

[@isa_virtual]

This was SO interesting and educational! When this “trend” started, I knew it wasn’t for me 😂 but now I fully understand why. Thanks for the awesome video 💜

[@ThePookie25]

I believe this because coconut oil as a prepoo was a game changer for me. My hair is finally retaining length, moisture and less breakage.

[@Millah323]

I don't think I would ever give up oils on my hair... Nothing helps get out tangles, like oil...

[@michelletripp286]

Same, if I don’t detangle with oil I lose way to much hair.

[@LoXena]

Same here. Without oil the knots just don't slide out.

[@LoXena]

@Ms.C I have, I does wonder when I prepoo my hair with it. But it is not ideal to detangle my hair.

[@beckycheruiyot2306]

When you use the oil to detangle your hair do you use anything else with it, like water and moisturizer

[@1GoldenBreeze]

I haven't used raw oils or butters in my hair since I switched from being a flat-ironed natural to a curly natural in 2008. There is enough oil/butter in the formulation of the products that I use I don't need any additional oil or butter. So for me, this isn't a trend or new it's just how I care for my hair. My hair is normal porosity.

[@ravinj8625]

I was so against trying no oils but I tried it and love not using oils. Like you said I just use products with oils.

[@NaturallyHigh]

I'm weighing into the conversation about going 'no oils no butters no creams' on your natural hair. 0:00-0:26 Introduction 0:26-2:41 Do oils prevent water from getting into your hair? 2:42-4:13 How can oils mitigate damage? 4:14-5:17 18-MEA - your hair's natural lipid layer 5:18-8:40 How oils mitigate the damage from rapid swelling 8:41- 11:01 How oils affect the weakest links 11:02-13:10 The verdict I help new and overwhelmed naturals grow long healthy hair for the first time. ✨

[@LifeFilmz]

Keep in mind that the type of oils used in these studies matters. The only oil that they see actual noteworthy improvement in hair was coconut oil. Butters, olive oil, mineral oil etc was not beneficial for the hair besides providing lubrication when combing which conditioner can do already. Also conditioner reduces static and is actually attracted to the weakest part of hair strands because conditioner is positively charged and our weak areas are negatively charged so the positive charge properties of the conditioner binds to the negatively charged weak areas of our hair. And it also said in one of the studies that you linked that raw butters actually increased friction, causing hair breakage. I’ve looked at a lot of articles over the years and coconut oil is the only oil backed by science to be used as a noteworthy pre shampoo treatment to prevent hygral fatigue. But keep in mind that the studies are biased towards groups who wash their hair a lot more frequently (everyday or every other day) who actually have to be concerned with hygral fatigue. Compared to the hair washing frequency a typical kinky/curly natural head of hair would (once every 5-7 days a week or longer). {Source detailing the purpose of hair products: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4458934/ }

[@chal3t]

@@LifeFilmz coconut oil dries out my hair but does better w/ castor oil, olive oil, etc.... I think as some of the other comments stated it depends on an individual’s hair, your routine, etc.;

[@NaturallyHigh]

​@@LifeFilmz Hey - thanks for your detailed reply. Using oils & butters may not work for everyone due to likes (&dislikes), lifestyle etc. That said, please allow me to address your observations: 1) While it does not penetrate, mineral oil reduces combing forces (the work needed to detangle the hair) and split end formation, and increases shine (Fregonoesi et al, 2009). And yes, conditioners can do this already by the mechanism you've astutely described. There are a few factors we ought to consider further, however. a) People who actually have a preference for DIY conditioning or those who might not have easy access to products they would otherwise use. b) The continuum of binding affinity exhibited by conditioners. Typically, ingredients in a conditioner work in one of two ways: they either bind to your hair based on charge differences OR they bind based on hydrophobicity. In some cases, someone may want more conditioning than they would naturally get from a generic conditioner. Adding an oil to the hair can enhance the binding affinity of certain surfactants, with behentrimonium being a common one, to the hair. For this reason, those wanting to enhance their conditioning without constantly seeking out a better product, may find the answer lies in simply adding an oil during their conditioning step. For those who tend not to notice much of a lasting effect from conditioners, adding oil can enhance their experience. 2) You're right about butters actually increasing combing forces. This holds true not only for butters, but for any oils that require lots of effort to spread on the hair. I address this in detail in my workshop. However, butters have other benefits, such as allowing for superior stretch (anecdotal experience). They also protect the hair from absorbing too much water. 3) The ability of coconut oil to protect the hair has been ascribed to its high content of shorter chained saturated fatty acids which are able to penetrate. There are other oils with similar compositions, which, while not displayed through research, are likely to behave similarly. Ucuuba butter is one that researchers speculate also penetrates. There are others. 4) There are benefits to having oils remain on the outside of the hair: slower moisture loss, increased lubricity, increased shine, softness. Oils don't have to penetrate to provide value. 5) While those with afro hair do not tend to engage in daily washing, there are some other factors to consider when drawing comparisons concerning how cleansing affects the hair. The grooming forces of Afro hair are higher than for straight hair. Bearing this in mind, the hair is likely subjected to more weathering during and after washing simply by virtue of its shape. In addition, the coils and kinks in the structure represent weak points where stresses can accumulate. Moreover, in areas where there are kinks and bends along the hair fibre, imaging has shown that there can be slight lifting of the cuticle, even under "dry" conditions. For these reasons, even with a lower washing frequency, hygral fatigue and the increased vulnerability of swollen cuticle scales could well be more of a factor. Of course this is a generalisation, and your sweet spot is unlikely to be exactly the same as someone else's, even if you have seemingly similar hair. 6) The degree of oil penetration is correlated to fatty acid chain length. Different oils penetrate to different degrees. Those that penetrate leave less of a film on the hair surface. Depending on your needs, you may or may not want penetration in an oil. Some resources: Brazilian oils and butters: the effect of different fatty acid chain composition on human hair physiochemical properties. Fregonesi A, Scanavez C, Santos L, De Oliveira A, Roesler R, Escudeiro C, Moncayo P, De Sanctis D, Gesztesi JL. J Cosmet Sci. 2009 Mar-Apr; 60(2):273-8 Hornby, S. B., Appa, Y., Ruetsch, S., & Kamath, Y. (2005). Mapping penetration of cosmetic compounds into hair fibers using time‐of‐flight secondary ion mass spectrometry (TOF‐SIMS). International Journal of Cosmetic Science, 27(5), 299-299. Keis, K., Persaud, D., Kamath, Y. K., & Rele, A. S. (2005). Investigation of penetration abilities of various oils into human hair fibers. Journal of cosmetic science, 56(5), 283-296.

[@LifeFilmz]

@@NaturallyHigh hi, my point wasn’t that they don’t provide lubrication. The paper states that it does. My point of my reply is that oils don’t do anything special or outside of what your normal conditioner can do already plus more such as reduces static which oils can’t do alone.

[@NaturallyHigh]

@@LifeFilmz Check my reply above.

[@a.mariedixon-jenkins]

Most informative and well presented! Thank you. I am a user of oils and some butters, I also WASH my hair. I have healthy natural hair, confirmed by my hair stylist. I will NEVER stop using oils as my hair is thriving. Great video.

[@adebanjobukola2313]

I won't stop using oils and butters just to use it in little amount especially the butters.I love your scientific research thanks.

[@iateyursandwiches]

Just wash your hair adequately(at least twice) and regularly. yes, even including sulfates sometimes.

[@petradunaway3259]

My hair hates butters and oils especially coconut oil and my scalp hates creams ever since I stopped using all three my hair has been thriving it has better sheen it's stronger, thicker and as long as I saturate it with water when I wash it, it stays hydrated for about 4-5 days and that's with no product in it. I guess so many things come into play when deciding how best to take care of our hair because look at your hair clearly it's beautiful and healthy. side note: I remember using that wild growth oil and honey that mess had me running around looking like fire Marshall Bill tore my hair and my scalp all the way up 😫

[@necabibi3558]

the points you made about the benefits of oils are true. but all the hair products we use already have oils in them. what they're saying is "they stopped using EXTRA oils in their hair." coz too much of a good thing can be bad. I don't think anyone is claiming oils will damage the hair though, or stop it growing. it's just that your hair may benefit from less oil usage. like, become more manageable. easy to detangle and so on.

[@lomietapela240]

lol I can sooo relate to the change in facial expression from friendly to murderous annoyance when the mosquito interrupted you! I am pro- oil and butters in hair care, I have just settled into a regimen that my hair loves and it incorporates oils and butters. After years or trial and error to get to this point, I am not in the slightest bit tempted to change. :) I should mention I do clarify my hair regularly, so build up isn't a concern. Great Video, as always!

[@RabielleParfait]

Love this video, we need more scientific research in the natural hair community, especially on type 4 hair!! Most of the research is only done on curly to straight caucasian hair. 😍 I love coconut oil and have never stopped using it. Just like shea butter. It’s what my ancestors have used for centuries. I think everyone has to find it’s middle way and do what works. I have stopped using oils and butters on a regular basis for many years and rarely do a style were I seal my hair. But would use them for diy rinse out masks and it works great. When products have already a significant amount of different oils and butters, I don’t see the need to apply more. Because often, even with coconut or jojoba oil, my hair doesn’t absorb it. And I don’t like the oily films on the hair while running the fingers through the strands. So I always make sure to read the labels and decide if I need ab additional sealant. ☺️

[@apara2005]

This was a WHOLE science lesson!!! Thanks for this!!

[@NaturallyHigh]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jasminer66788]

You’re the professional and have the beautiful hair to go along with it, so I’ma go ahead and listen to you!

[@folakemiawosoga]

Thank you for this scientific approach, I really appreciate the effort you put into your videos 😍😍😍

[@dreampossible2]

Exactly!!!!!!! Everything she said!!!! 💯💪 I love my Butter and Oils!!!

[@samantha43679]

Mad respect for the clearly massive amount of research you did for this vid. It must have taken a ton of time and effort, but was super helpful and informative - thank you!

[@onlybriajae]

Personally I feel like the no oils/butters etc movement may work better for girls with low porosity hair. I tried it but my hair is high porosity and it made my hair so dry and brittle. My hair loves hair butters and oiling the ends of my hair.

[@LoXena]

Finally a scientific explanation 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾Thank you for the video. Now I understand why my hair is actually stronger when I detangle it with avocado oil vs when I detangle it with water only. And also understand why adding raw oil to my conditioner is more more effective than using the conditioner alone.

[@beckycheruiyot2306]

When you detangle your hair with Avocado oil, do you use it alone on dry hair or do you add water and a moisturizer

[@theandrealiane]

I really appreciate you taking the time to present scientific research to give a credible opinion on the no oils and butters trend. This was educational, well presented and engaging. Great video!

[@Rawveganketo]

You are amazing at going deep into detail, don't think anyone else has explained it as good.I am not giving up my oils before I actually get a proper regime, right now I am experimenting on two weeks without a hair wash.

[@kaybay1515]

On wash day I prepoo with oil and LCO. But put nothing else on my hair or scalp until my next wash day I’ve found that works best for me.

[@Tinablackberryrose]

I love using my oils and butters my hair seems to thrive and is healthier. Good to know that oils keeps the hair moisturized in low humidity and that it has strengthening properties. I always use coconut oil as a pre-poo glad to know that it protects so well. This was a very good video. Thank You for Sharing.

[@beckycheruiyot2306]

And when you use the coconut oil do you use anything else to prepoo

[@Tinablackberryrose]

@@beckycheruiyot2306 yes I put it on my edges and throughout my hair let it sit for 30 mins and wash my hair.

[@perismwangi]

I needed to hear your very well researched opinion! Thanks so much. Since I started doing a coconut oil prepoo, I've noticed significantly less breakage of my hair. So I'll definitely continue to do so.

[@fafalise2023]

Me too xx

[@art...skill...orsubmission3045]

EXCELLENT WORK! Btw, hand gestures very effective addition to descriptions and visual aids.. Thanks

[@adams8830]

I've tried no butter and no oils, and not even because it's trendy, mainly because I'm lazy AF. My hair was a dry, brittle, breaking, MESS and I'm not giving up my oils or butters. That's a trend I won't be jumping on anytime soon and I'm honestly over the silly trends of the natural hair community. Wonderful video, incredibly informative!!! ❤❤❤

[@QueenBee1118]

You look fabulous and professional. Thanks for your informative video.

[@karenavery1342]

This is a very informative video. Thank you for the explanations of technical points along with 'hand-visuals' to further describe the points being made. I will continue to pre-poo with coconut oil, and use my oils in the morning when styling my hair (to reduce friction)!

[@NaturallyHigh]

Thank you for this prescriptive feedback. When I was rewatching I got concerned that it was still a bit on the technical side. Is there anything you’d like me to explain further?

[@apara2005]

@@NaturallyHigh as a chemist, I APPRECIATE you explained the science!!!!!! With ACTUAL science papers....loved it. People need to know this.

[@karenavery1342]

No, thank you. I thought you did an excellent job!

[@sandieb2019]

Thanks for the shout out and so glad I could hear all the scientific evidence that backs why oils are so valuable in my hair care routine 😆

[@greene_te]

Real talk, I’ve noticed my hair does so much better with just a little leave in conditioner,butters, and oils. I also noticed that I have less breakage and shredding when I stopped deep conditioning so much. So this video makes a lot of sense. I also added a diluted apple cider vinegar rinse to finish up my moisture routine on my wash/hydration days. The simpler I keep my routine, the better. Thanks for sharing this video and the info! 👍🏾😊

[@zendresanders553]

Thank you for this video! I love it! This video, in my opinion, is what has been missing from this whole conversation. Your 2nd point (which you backed up with scientific research study DATA), is one reason the no raw oils, no raw butters movement has irritated me: My hair gets VERY wet and also retains water . . . even if I use oil or an oil-laden hair product 🤷. I just don't understand why all of a sudden there must be just one way to have healthy hair -- the no raw oils, no raw butters way. I just don't believe that every person on the planet who uses raw oil in their hair regimen automatically has unhealthy hair. I'm glad regimens are getting quicker, but I wish people would not pretend there is only one way to have healthy hair.

[@anitagrice8956]

New subbie....... Because you were dropping NOTHING but gems😍‼️

[@EloquentlyEse]

I tried to go back and like this video TWO good times! Just to realize I already liked it. This video gave me so much life, you don't even know. Well done.

[@smilesallround]

Thank you for this excellent video! 🙌🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿❤️

[@nova4476]

too much of anything isn’t good. my hair hates butters but loves oils. i just don’t let it build up. (i have fine hair) i try to do my research & understand how products work but on the other hand, if it works, it works. you shouldn’t stop using a product just because of a trend

[@pennywarren2357]

Thank you for your research! Btw, you are rockin' that melanin, beautiful queen!

[@nicolecato634]

I had to stop using them due to my allergies. I love rose water and glycerin for my 4c hair. It's so natural and it works for my fro! Thank God 🙏🏾

[@luciaescobarz]

Very very interesting once again! I love your in depth videos backed by scientific articles! 💕😇! I quit oils and butters for a while, my wash and go’s looked beautiful and less dry, but the hair broke a lot when I detangled! I went back to using coconut oil and Conditioner for detangling, as advised by you, and my hair stopped breaking so much.😭😭💕 . When I use conditioner on it’s own when detangling, the hair breaks more! It’s trueeeee Quitting oils and butter taught me that I have to cleanse my hair more toroughly and that I don’t have to layer so many products to moisturize my hair. I feel like I really got to know my hair better! The mosquito part tho😭🤣🤣 I laughed hahahah! Edit: the BGLH link in the description box! The nostalgia😍

[@Britnatural]

I recently made the mistake of using a clarify shampoo on my fine strands and it's taking me weeks for my hair to recover. I really believe it the lack of oil that ruined my hair. Using that shampoo was a major set back. That's why I used black soap as a shampoo instead because it cleans without stripping the oils from my hair. My hair is rough and frizzy, I see an improvements when I use oils.

[@NaturallyHigh]

Hey Love! Thank you for chiming in and sharing your experience with clarifying shampoo. It sounds as though you learnt your lesson the hard way but you now have more conviction and a greater understanding of your current methods.

[@hibiscustea6886]

Respectfully, it is likely that you are maybe unused to seeing how the actual surface texture of your hair feels once completely cleansed. I understand that-it shocked me. It’s recommended to follow up clarifying shampoos with moisturizing shampoos to balance the pH, which reminds me of another thing-be cautious with the Black soap. It’s not pH balanced, so it’s really not ideal to use as shampoo. (I am not a stylist, but a beginning cosmetology student and this is information that other licensed cosmetologists have shared on other platforms.)

[@Britnatural]

@@hibiscustea6886 I've been natural for 10 year and have a very good handle on what works on my hair. I recently decided to stop using black soap although I had experienced no issues using it for weakly washes. I was experiencing itchy scalp so decided to get Giovanni triple shampoo as I had used it before but back then my hair was thicker and I washed as and when. Sometimes 2 months would go by with me just cowashing occasionally. I started the weekly washed roughly three months ago and had tried castile soap once but it didn't feel like it washed off the oils. I thought the oils in my hair where causing the itching. I will admit after the clarifying shampoo my scalp didn't itch however my hair was in a bad way. I followed through with a conditioner but my hair tangled up and felt weak. I will also add my hair texture changed a few years ago and is now very fine( I blame pregnancy 8 years ago my hair never recovered) I agree that I need to look into better products, pH balance is something I never considered and I really have never washed off all the oils in my hair. I am looking into a more expensive shampoo by Christophe Robin but I'm scared I will spend all that money and use it once. I am now water only washing and using jojoba, mango butter and caster oil. As well as keeping my hair up. I have seen an improvement. I will try coconut oil and tentatively look for a better shampoo, I don't want to rush and buy without have the same problem. My goal is to get the sebum on my hair before using any kind of shampoo.

[@LoXena]

I have the same experience with clarifying shampoo. My hair just get matted which never happened normally. I had to cut a few centimeters and now it's back to normal. But it took me 2 months.

[@dimakatsokatso7805]

Same, I have dry hair and dry scalp. I have tried clarifying shampoos and my hair feel awful and breaks after using them. Do what is best for your hair. Things they teach at cosmetology school is for one size fits all, which in reality its not true at all.

[@blairwalker12]

So I believe you have to do what works for your hair and scalp. My scalp doesn't do well with oils especially with fragrance, possibly due to too much sebum production. So besides washing and deep conditioning my hair is moisturized with a leave in, and a gel that has protein in it. It's been going pretty good so far it's been 2 years.

[@ulaniewilson]

Loving this I formation sis. OILS & BUTTERS fa life over here lol.

[@SunniDae333]

I've always use oils and butters and I liked it but recently I've tried the gel method and it works well for me too. I like both of them :D

[@Clary_Sage]

Thanks for the post. I found it informative. It’s team oils and butters over here. Off the back of this post I would like to incorporate a shorter detox program into my shampoo/condition routine though. Maybe once every other month.

[@NaturallyHigh]

Thank you for commenting. What do you like about oils and butters? What’s your reason for wanting to detox?

[@Clary_Sage]

@@NaturallyHigh Hi there! I have found oil to be the best way to protect my hair before shampooing-I’ve never really been able to move away from coconut oil for long. Like you, I don’t use it for styling. My hair tends to feel dry and needs a regular spray of water or high water content product and Shea butter (with other oils blended in - castor oil, vitamin E oil and almond oil) just helps to seal that moisture in and helps smooth my hair for twisting. Spraying my hair with a product with a high water content if not water is the best thing I’ve done for my hair lately. Oil doesn’t moisturize and neither does Shea butter which I learned the hard way. I use castor oil (I prefer the processed, light coloured stuff). I know, there is JBCO but that one makes my natural silver highlights look discolored... The castor oil is heavy enough to help seal the ends while twisting. Re the detoxing. I do worry about build up and correct me if I’m wrong, the post did mention that it takes a while for the oils to dissipate to where you are left with sebum? I do use a clarifying type shampoo at the moment; it’s Giovanni Tea Tree tingle but I feel that that does not remove everything which in general is a good thing. However, I like the idea of a clean slate once in a while. I wonder how my hair will behave. Sorry about the long response for what is for me a very short routine. It’s just about using the right products in the right way for our individual strands and how we like our hair to feel and look. I’ve always loved how your hair looks-the fullness most of all. Looking forward to learning from your future content. 😄

[@maramara7494]

Our people been using oil and butter (East and West African…). Im going with the “old way”. But your video is very interesting and informative 🥰

[@teesnapz5830]

Very informative, concise, and neutral...ALWAYS appreciate the facts!!!

[@ebonynaturalcurls1808]

I have really been looking forward to this video and it didn’t disappoint! I don’t really use that much oil in my hair and butters can be just too much. I tended to use at prepoo and for scalp massages. There tends to be oils in quite a few products anyway. I kind of dabbled with the detox hence switching things up a bit and yes, my hair feels different but I like both ways. What is great is the focus on cleansing and simplifying one’s routine. I still p,an to sign up though as would be interesting to look at the resources and rationale in greater depth. You would have thought through all the sound bites that the benefits of oils would have filtered through! Thank you!

[@lilythegrey]

This is the first video of yours I've ever seen and I'm subscribed. I love how in depth you've gone with this topic. Looking forward to binge watching the rest of your content.

[@christineda123]

I only use Wildgrowth hair oil on my hair and scalp. Stopped using butters because whatever was in it dried out my hair. 😒😒 ends started breaking. So just water, oil and protective styling. My hair has started getting longer 😁❤.

[@LeahBandB]

This is such a great resource on this topic! Thank you more making this video! It's so interesting hearing the scientific explanation for what I - and I'm sure many others - have observed about my hair and how it responds to different products/oils. I'm playing with the 30 Day Challenge right now but I'm not sold on their approach tbh

[@lifeofcathrine]

This video was scientifically beautiful and very informative. It is a bit scary to go on a detox when every kink is a point of weakness Lol but for me I'd like to stay with my oils and butters. However, being heavy handed is also a thing. I believe that moderation is a good thing and having a great shampoo that fully cleanses will give you a new slate to work on.

[@qiv777]

I love facts!! New subscriber!! Thanks for sharing!!!

[@iamsol4916]

I will never stop using oils & butters! ❤️Butters, oils , rice treatments & oil sealing are the ONLY things that’ve made my 4c hair grow Healthily ! These are the only things that made my shoulder length hair grow longer, like in childhood , without the 3-4inches of split ends lol

[@adambata4667]

Thank you for this video! It's educational. I decided not to do the 30 day hair detox. My hair isn't naturally strong and I wish that I had more density. I have fine 4c hair.

[@swtcarmel1]

Great vid! I love Ayurvedic oils and am not willing to give them up, but I respect that everyone’s hair is different! We all have to do what works.

[@graceburlson1307]

I never stopped using oils, instead coconut oil makes mine stronger

[@disneytoysr4fun975]

The difference is that the no oils no butters girls use styling products that provide the same if not better protection (imo). For example the uncle funky gel makes my hair extremely soft and pliable, much more than when I used raw shea butter and castor oil.

[@setapartaay925]

Shoot, sis. Y’all can if y’all want to. No hard feelings. I won’t though….I gotta do what works for me😃 Be blessed everyone 🥰

[@cindychristian1700]

My dry hair does get very moisturized with just water or aloe vera juice but when I add oil, butters or grease it does any better! I certainly couldn't detangle with water or aloe vera juice alone!

[@lauraadingmburu9446]

I think the problem with oils is the Way we use them. The products used even in the 30 day detox contain oils and butters all of them! However they are in formulations that do not cause the problems caused by improper use. Washing weekly to bi weekly also prevents build up. Any kind of buildupwill act as an occlusive and lead to dry hair over time.

[@thedarknessofnana]

That’s so interesting. I have noticed my hair is stronger & healthier now after I stopped using all those heavy creams & butters. I use coconut oil with essential oils exclusively after shampooing. After I let my hair freeform loc, I got rid of a majority of my hair products. My seborrheic dermatitis also got worse, so that was prt of the reason. Now, I wash twice with diluted Dr. Bronner’s tea tree castille soap (1:5 ratio of water:castille soap) two to three times a week, and every other hair wash I use T/Sal seborrheic dermatitis shampoo. Out the shower, I put coconut oil with some drops of tea tree & peppermint essential oils in it on my scalp liberally, and I put just coconut oil on my hair, but focus in my ends. My hair’s never been more healthy & strong, despite my scalp doing the most.

[@lakoucafe1684]

I’ve been ditching raw oils and butters for 9 months now and my hair is THRIVING! The first month was rough but my hair is finally less rough, hydrated, not breaking in my breakage prone areas. My hair is cute too! I just use shampoo conditioner and mousse or hydrating gels. I’m shocked honestly. But I agree the black girl curls ppl are so rude. The knowledge is on point though. Can’t wait to see how my hair looks in a year. I feel like I cracked the code finally.

[@lakoucafe1684]

I also trim it regularly myself. I just do a blunt cut on blown out hair and it gives me cute heart shape hair once my hair is curly.

[@NaturallyHigh]

Give us an update! How’s it been going?

[@onetallgirl1369]

I have thin strands, low porosity hair, butter are too heavy for my hair but when I use a small amount of shea butter and my hair does okay. I will never stop using oil. My hair does so well when I pre poo with oil!

[@peepla7]

People forget ..sebum is your body's oil/butter/ wax. Your body produces it for the hair. So...that means oil is ok. Sometimes... especially if hair is dry...the body isn't making enough sebum so add oil to make up for the lack.

[@solarlola5953]

I use mostly butter creams and leave in conditioners. I rarely use oils because my hair feels very brittle 3 days after applying any type of oil. But I do oil my scalp.

[@lisascott2184]

My kinky hair only started to stay on my head when i started using grape seed oil-with no other additions. I could tell an immediate difference. What these 30 day people say doesn't make sense for my hair.

[@Leah_Tewari]

Outstanding video! Thank you so much for sharing this information! ❤️

[@maryamlaushi9108]

Clearly if you have high porosity hair, oils and butters are super important If you want to retain length.

[@danewshabooforyou7377T]

Lovin' the info already...wow! Keep it coming 🙂

[@nishapink120992]

This is such an informative video!! I love that you actually cite scientific studies to support your conclusions!!!

[@folakemiawosoga]

I've been waiting for this from your IG story. Yayyyy 😍😍😍😍

[@Abi-or6hn]

To be fair, what they say is don’t use RAW oils and butter on your hair. They encourage use of stylers like foams and gel which also have oils in them. The oils in the foams and gels I guess is formulated specifically for hair so that’s the difference. A lot of products including shampoos and conditioners also contain oil so I do not think anyone is saying don’t use oil, they’re just saying don’t use the kind used to cook on your hair. That makes sense.

[@Icyjessy1]

The video clearly says raw oils which the method says causes damage

[@naturalnoni8212]

Great video! I enjoyed a new perspective based on science! This method is not for me. I agree that this is about what you want for your hair. This method only focuses on definition achieved through a simple routine that eliminates build up. Although I embrace these aspects, other aspects like ease of detangling and length retention are just as important for me.

[@NaturallyHigh]

Well said! I love how you summarise the differences.

[@marciawilliams291]

Water and many oils does wonders for my hair and I surely will stick to it. Thx for this interesting video. 👍🥰💞🙏🙏

[@RukiaBlackBlazer]

*"Queen and a team hair,"* my sisters, that's what we've got, only the best for our hair, and the more it grows, the bigger a team, we need to help maintain our *"Queen and a team hair,"* that requires only the best. Thanks for the factual knowledge sis.👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@cynthia7713]

Thank you for the informative video. I have a few questions. - The study at 3 min talk about hygral fatigue as a cause of hair damage. I remember reading an article written by a woman who wanted to get the scientific facts about this phenomenon. She only found a few articles on it and they actually studied wool, not hair. The studies were about clothes being cleaned in washing machines, not hair being shampooed. Also, the swelling caused by hygral fatigue was reversible and not permanent damage. Do you know any studies about hygral fatigue made on hair ? - The studies you cite use coconut oil and/or mineral oil. What about the other vegetable oils and butters ? Coconut oil having specific characteristics, I wouldn't want to make generalizations.

[@NaturallyHigh]

All my sources are in the description box - they do not include merino wool. This one might interest you as well as it looks at other oils & butters: Fregonesi, A., Scanavez, C., Santos, L., De Oliveira, A., Roesler, R., Escudeiro, C., ... & Gesztesi, J. L. (2009). Brazilian oils and butters: The effect of different fatty acid chain composition on human hair physiochemical properties. J Cosmet Sci, 60(2), 273-80.. Let me know your thoughts.

[@Hellakiddie]

We are all different. The beauty of experimentation.

[@MalkiaNzinga]

Great vid! I didn't care for those pushing products with this no raw oil or butter. Our history shows us (and science) that our hair does best with use of natural/raw oils and butter.

[@shauleen]

Please can you share the history that supports this? I am mainly interested because coconuts are not native to Africa and shae nuts are only in west Africa and some parts of the east (but largely not used as a butter in the east(. It therefore would be odd for African hair to thrive on things that would be so scarse or the native population....

[@Abi-or6hn]

My take on this whole thing is we obviously need a wider range of products for black hair. It’s very obvious there are many different preferences and they should be catered to. Some like botanical girls, some prefer custards that are cream like etc. I get it

[@makedasamuel-gaskin7760]

Great video, it would be great to explore the scientific reasoning behind this no oils and butters trend. I feel like it would only work for wash and go styling!

[@Aaa-te7ei]

yes, and the products they recommend are FULL of oils. its a misnomer.

[@rubinaturalhair]

It's also important to note most of the studies are done on Asian or Caucasian hair. Although made of the same protein, our hair strands is arranged differently

[@NaturallyHigh]

Thanks for your comment. To date, I’ve only seen one set of data with results on how an oil affects Afro hair. More are needed and fortunately, they are ongoing. Which differences do you think we should pay the most attention to in this case?

[@rubinaturalhair]

@@NaturallyHigh Difficult to answer. What would be ideal is if our hair was included in the study. Since our strands is more flat, than oval I would argue oils are even more important to protect our cuticles but only the research can say that.

[@NaturallyHigh]

@@rubinaturalhair there's one set of data from TRI Princeton (not published - but from a seminar I watched) on oil use that shows that penetrative oils increase the characteristic life (no. combing strokes withstood before breaking) of Afro hair. They also showed that certain oils with specific fatty acid profiles have an effective softening effect on the cuticle. Have you watched my workshop? It incorporates this and lots more and gives you a framework for choosing oils & butters based on your hair & regimen. I highly recommend it. You can get it here: naturallyhigh.podia.com/decoding-oils-and-butters. Let me know what you think! * hint - if you download the free guide (linked in the description), you'll get a discount on the workshop.

[@Destinyfirst]

To be clear the creators of the no oils end Butters movement never said that boils weren't a lubricant for the hair. What they've said is that oils are not moisturizing to the hair. And as a means for retaining moisture there is no actual way to retain moisture in the hair the only place we find moisture is in water and water naturally evaporates thus the prospect of using oils to lock in moisture is useless. With this knowledge you can deduce that oils are negligible in a hair routine. I did the hair detox almost three years ago, my hair has never been more manageable, easily able to be detangled, I've never saved this much money on hair products, I have also never retained this much length ( for reference my hair is always been kind of long but now my hair actually goes way past my shoulders. When I'm detangling my hair in the shower my hair is under my boob) I also don't take as much time for washes because I wash every 4-5 days. My hair is very soft and I get complimented on my hair all the time I get people asking me what I do with my hair and I told them and they freak out. With the hair detox/ no oils no Butters challenge patience is key and trusting the process is key because when I first started my hair look crazy but after a couple washes to get all of the build-up from the oils and butters off of my hair (when I used oils I washed every 7 days) my hair flourished!

[@NaturallyHigh]

Glad to hear you've figured your hair out!

[@teesulli833]

This explanation helps tremendously and gives a better understanding on why some love the NONB and others do not. I do believe my hiar is prone to being weak and tangles like it is nobody's business. Therefore I am hesitant to give up using oils and butters. I do have another topic I am wondering if you can help with and that is the use of clay on the hair?? On one side I hear longterm or over use causes damage and the other side says regular use of clay softens the hair and helps retain length. Lately I've found clay make my wash day so much better but I am concerned about longterm use.

[@Aaa-te7ei]

it breaks down the hair over time bc it lifts up the cuticles dramatically. so if you do them too often it will damage your hair. though its probably ok occasionally

[@teesulli833]

@@Aaa-te7ei thank you!

[@naturalnoni8212]

Great topic! I was wondering the same.