What Food History Tells Us About Living Longer

[@marty5627]

“If there is one thing we learn from history, it’s that we don’t always learn from history” great line Toni!😂

[@GregariousAntithesis]

No high fiber, high protein low fuel sugar and fat is where It is at in nature.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks! Not my "original" thought but I thought it was appropriate.

[@PepeDalinShow]

I’m not focused on living as long as possible per se, but I do want to maximize my healthspan so I can enjoy a long, healthy life. When my time comes, I hope to go without enduring prolonged suffering or chronic illness.

[@aluxbalum]

Amazing Toni, what a great presentation.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thank you! ❤

[@Joy80JJ]

Toni you speak plain & simple for all to understand...that's a compliment.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks so much. I am a fairly plain and simple person.

[@bill2292]

Love it! Your videos are always well researched and expertly presented. Your channel has such a great slant on nutrition er, longevity!

[@apriljohnson6191]

Encore!! Encore!! The Countess of Cash is an excellent speaker!! *tosses flowers onto the stage*

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thank you! ❤

[@shamalagovindasamy9120]

This was my favourite talk at the Boston event!

[@michelle_cen]

Thanks for coming to it!!

[@ToniMacAskill]

Jaw drop here. I worked hard on the talk but there were so many great talks at the event! Thanks so much!

[@silvertoothpick]

I love those old dutch paintings of people celebrating and the earlier medieval parties. It's always fascinating to learn more about how we got to where we are now. From squirrel pie to the drive-thru Oreo McFlurry. Although, I bet my dog would love to see squirrel pie back on the menu! Thanks Toni for this very enjoyable and informative talk.

[@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x]

There is a nice album I can recommend to you, then, from here on KZbin. Especially apt as Christmas is approaching. It is very nice music with just the kinds of pictures you described, showing a timeline of December in medieval times in Europe. Search for Thys Yool - A Medieval Christmas, Martin Best Mediaeval Ensemble Medieval Winter Music. If you know it already (it's not new), I can recommend to all. One of my go to Advent classics.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks! Our dog would absolutely die for squirrel pie!

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

One thing I really liked were the fantastic cabbages. Nowadays, cabbages are barely mentioned at all, as if they are not worthy of being called a vegetable. I happen to love cabbages to death.

[@kentroskelley1389]

Wonderful presentation Toni! The length was perfect. You had my undivided attention! Thank heaven you and Chris have that library of historic nutrition books. Please get them digitized if not already done, for future generations to study.

[@ToniMacAskill]

We have so many historic books I am not sure how we would get them all digitized.

[@kentroskelley1389]

@@ToniMacAskill Yes, I can understand your dilemma. Maybe see if there is a techie you can trust to volunteer to scan them without damage especially the older books. I wish I lived closer, although I’m not a techie per se, I could learn the procedure and volunteer my time. But I’m in San Diego County. Just don’t want to lose those books that are rare.

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

@@ToniMacAskill It is a lot of work indeed. I have no physical books anymore. I digitised everything. Took years. I can now say that I am one of the rare translators who has no (physical) books, but reality is that I don't even known how many I have. The word 'book' stopped having meaning to me.

[@kazmilo8880]

Great talk Toni. I really enjoyed it 😀

[@AnaRodriguez-wn8qq]

Learning about Harriette Chick was very cool! And I hadn’t realized how much the old diet writers celebrated fruits and veggies in the past - when I read old books like those written by Jane Austen and the count of monte cristo I only ever notice them talk about the various meats.

[@k.h.6991]

Jane Austen hardly wrote about food.

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

Harriette Chick was a hero of mine. You may want to investigate "Chick's law" about disinfection. That is how I got to know her.

[@JustJamey]

I see why you like these books! Thank you for sharing the cliff notes!

[@pixievincent2478]

Good job, Toni. You spoke at just the right pace to allow absorption of every fact. Back to simple diets for health - and not being hyper palatable means you don't overeat as easily, too.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks so much. I was so nervous that I had to try to concentrate on not zipping through it!

[@pixievincent2478]

@ToniMacAskill I tend to talk a mile a minute if I'm up in front of people, so I was impressed.

[@Annique]

Brilliant minds have always made connections between cause and effect, maybe they didn't have the granular scientific understanding of the processes that we have now, but they were onto something! Excellent presentation, Toni.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks

[@RonaldKrzesniak]

Great job- love history - very informative...

[@juliawls]

Amazing presentation and also the style! A great insight into some perspectives and history. Looking forward to seeing more from Toni!

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks! So kind of you! Chris is more comfortable on camera than I am.

[@SuperAngelic5]

Very informative and interesting. Just got back from Europe, and I was impressed with the freshness and quality of the fruit and vegetables there.

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

I haven't been there in a long time, but it would be consistent with my memories. I have never been all that impressed with the quality of fruit & vegetables in Toronto.

[@JaxObsessed]

Now we know the real intellect behind Viva Longevity!!! :D Wonderful presentation, Toni!!!!

[@ToniMacAskill]

Chris really made it possible for me to give this talk. I could not have done it without him.

[@JaxObsessed]

@@ToniMacAskill :D I was ribbing him a bit. My wife and I really enjoyed your presentation.

[@ToniMacAskill]

@@JaxObsessed Thanks so much!

[@JaxObsessed]

@@ToniMacAskill You deserve it!!! Chris is one of the most influential people I have ever known. My life took a turn in 2008 when I signed up on ADV. Reading his posts and reading about his/your lives was riveting and inspiring!!! I've been a Smuggy account holder for more than a decade!!! LOL Needless for me to say I'm a huge fan and when Chris called me a friend I was honored and humbled by him again!!! Know it or not I've loved you for many years just from what Chris has written. Also loving the channel and the new direction Chris has aimed his sights on.

[@AnotherBadyoga]

Smart men are attracted to smart women

[@TomDOLAN-cb9th]

Wonderful job. You and your husband are doing a great service. Please continue...

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks so much... as you can tell it is labor of love for us to feel like we are helping people. So we will keep doing it as long as we can.

[@pavolhorvath7850]

Absolutely wonderful! This speach was great. I enjoyed every word of it. And so well researched.

[@georgewilson7808]

“I've been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, but I'm handling it with confidence. I followed a strict keto diet for two years under the guidance of so-called experts like Dr. Ekberg, but it only worsened my condition. The moment I deviated, my blood glucose soared. Now, after switching to a very low-fat diet for just a month, I can consume large amounts of boiled potatoes without experiencing a spike in my blood glucose levels. It's clear that some Doctors are promoting misinformation for their own benefit, but I've found a path that truly works for me.”

[@ethicalphytophage]

Bravo! Thank you for clear and informative talk. Move over Chris - there's a new communicator in town! 😊💚

[@xanxus8272]

What a wonderful presentation Toni! I wish it was longer.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks! I was nervous enough at this length. And TEDx has strict rules about how long it can be. I spoke more quickly due to nerves.

[@carmadefries3729]

We are surrounded by obese and super obese in rural Indiana. My husband and I went plant-based whole food a few years ago and changed our lives. In our mid 50’s and in better health than we were in our 30’s. Low fat is where it’s at. 🌱💪🏼💚

[@thalesnemo2841]

Utterly wrong ! I’ve 95% carnivore with amazing results! NO GRAINS NO FRUITS NO POTATOES NO SEED OILS NO ADDED SUGARS HUMANS ARE ESSENTIAL CARNIVORES!

[@debbiequilter]

Great speech Toni…..I really enjoyed listening. Looking forward to the next video. 😀👍

[@SBqwerty]

Fantastic work on this channel as usual. Thanks team

[@aureliaglenn2220]

Bravo, Toni! Such an interesting, informative talk. You and your husband make a great team!

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thank you! ❤ He helped write some of it.

[@georgewilson7808]

“My blood sugar went from 90s to 140s after eating an all meat diet and I felt like hell. Added back some carbs and my blood sugar went back to normal in a day or two.” Michel-gb7l

[@daffyduck1486]

Thank you Tony MacAskill. You have become the world expert in old nutrition books. You and your husband do a great service.

[@Arugula100]

Fantastic talk! No nutrition classes ever taught these content.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks so much. It was fun research.

[@kevanriley2998]

Great delivery of a great presentation, well done!

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks so much. It feels good now it is over.

[@TerribleLotus]

I’m thinking about how I should grow more violets just so I can eat them more regularly. Just love that idea. And other flowers too

[@ChessMasterNate]

I drink hibiscus tea every day. And artichoke is a flower too. I try to eat that once a week. Now that I think about it, I also have rose hips in my vitamin C, and I take Saffron Extract as well.

[@TerribleLotus]

@ right, I also have hibiscus tea that I drink many days but not every day. Rose hip jam is really nice but I haven’t had that in a long time. And rose hip tea. And you’re right about artichoke too. Tasty! Violets just have a special place in my heart. 💜

[@arckocsog253]

I’m going out in may and graze on the flowers :D

[@adamd9418]

Fascinating that diet books were so popular among the literate hundreds of years ago.

[@angelakesecker6291]

I love this! I've never read these beautiful books, but I'm obsessed with Jane Austen novels. There are several references to health and food, some characters even meeting their demise as a result of too many "great dinners." It's very clear from the way she writes that people saw a link between food and health in the early 1800s, and there were definitely large people (as opposed to what some people say about obesity only being a very new thing).

[@MyMEDFITNESS]

Love Toni, awesome presentation!

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks so much. I really appreciate all of the positive responses.

[@kellicardaras2805]

Wonderful and informative! So well presented too. Thank you!

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks so much! I was extremely nervous.

[@sharpedance]

Wonderful, comprehensive with many relevant points. Thank you. Brava!

[@SayingHelloFrump-c8r]

I love this channel, it lights up the reward centre in my brain (forgot what it's called), because it always affirms my lifestyle choices even if I don't always stick to them.

[@georgewilson7808]

“I been on the carnivore diet for 5 months, I recently had a blood test and my bad cholesterol level is high. I'm 47 and my doctor told me I had a 60 year old heart. Should I continue with this diet?” Shawnleclerc

[@georgewilson7808]

NURSES' HEALTH STUDY and HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FOLLOW-UP STUDY: These long-term cohort studies in the United States involved over 200,000 participants. They found that a higher intake of plant-based foods, such as fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, was associated with a lower risk of coronary heart disease. The emphasis on plant-based sources of protein was particularly noteworthy.

[@georgewilson7808]

“A very smart and well informed friend of mine started following Dr Paul Mason a few years back, and was inspired to reject medical orthodoxy, go full carnivore, and rationalize her sky-high cholesterol. Her calcium score was zero, which was encouraging, and she wasn’t eating any carbs to glycate her blood lipids. Nevertheless, as medical orthodoxy would have predicted, she is now fighting for her life in intensive care following a sudden heart attack. Let it be a warning if your lipid scores are off the charts.” rdnzl

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

I'm travelling now, so sending you an early thank you...I'll watch later

[@julioandresgomez3201]

Miguel de Cervantes wrote "fruits and raw roots are the nourishment of the superior man". Maybe others had other dietary ideas, but the thing is, is there someone(s) that stands out for living well over 100?

[@aguialisboeta]

Brilliant!! So informative, thanks Toni !

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks for the comment! I was very nervous.

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

@@ToniMacAskill I did *not* notice it at all!

[@aguialisboeta]

@@ToniMacAskill did not look like it!

[@johzuke1]

Loved this thanks for the info!

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks! We always hope we are helping folks live healthier longer.

[@GMan0157]

Very interesting! Thanks

[@prieten49]

An interesting lecture! It was nice to hear Toni speak for a long time.

[@ToniMacAskill]

So kind of you to say that. I am not a natural like Chris.

[@breft3416]

Great stuff!

[@saroskatesnow2]

Excellent!!!

[@StephenMarkTurner]

Using words like 'food' and 'history' should ensure a lively comment section. 🙂

[@Tony-di5lp]

What a captivating talk youda man ...the wo-man !

[@ToniMacAskill]

Ha ha ha. Thanks so much. I am not used to doing this!

[@PrideofJefferson]

Always great info from this channel.

[@internationalplayboy8685]

Fantastic speech, I learned a lot!

[@vegands]

Great information. Thank you Toni🙏

[@ToniMacAskill]

You are most welcome. We always hope we are helping folks live healthier longer.

[@anhe1183]

Great talk! Thank you for sharing.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thank you for you comment. It so scary to get up on that stage.

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

Great presentation! And so true. Most of this was taught when I was in med school, 45 years ago. Since then, we have learned a lot of new things about how and why the simple foods are so good, but next to nothing about the simple fact that they are indeed so good since we knew that already. It's why I always say that nutrition is hideously complex but food is ridiculously simple.

[@kentroskelley1389]

Just curious, what med school did you attend that taught this information?

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

@@kentroskelley1389 I went to Ghent University medical school. It is why I am revolted when I hear people claim that doctors don't learn anything about nutrition. They absolutely do.

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

​@@kentroskelley1389 I just got curious. Just a single Google search yielded a report on teaching nutrition in American medical schools from 1977. Clearly, nutrition in med schools is not a uniquely European phenomenon. I'll research it a bit deeper because there is a lot more. We actually used American books that were talking about nutrition. I don't think they were written for Europeans: we had to learn English in order to understand them... AFAIK the claim that no nutrition is taught in medical school is a blatant lie created by the quack industry.

[@ToniMacAskill]

@@BartBVanBockstaele Our experience with doctors we have asked has not been a positive one. If they had any nutrition classes at all they were short and not very informative apparently.

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

​@@ToniMacAskill I think/guess that it is in the naming. We never had a "nutrition class". We did have chemistry, biochemistry, physiology, organic chemistry, and during those classes we had lots of information on nutrition. To me, that was totally fair, because nutrition is everywhere and fundamental. It doesn't matter what it is called, just that it is taught. There are two potential weaknesses in my argument: I studied medicine in Ghent, Belgium and the curricula might be very different from North America. The other potential weakness is that this was 45 years ago and that things might have changed, for a bad but potentially understandable reason: patients did not want to hear about facts, personal responsibility and unpleasantness. Most of them still don't. We all know the expression "it tastes healthy" which usually means: "it disgusting and I like it". This is a guess, but I am inclined to think it is not wrong when I look at historic books about nutrition. People wrote them and people bought them (I hope). For example, I have in front of me "The elements of physiological and pathological chemistry. A handbook for medical students and practitioners". A perfectly normal title, but this is what it says just below that (capitalisation not mine): ***** CONTAINING A GENERAL ACCOUNT OF NUTRITION, FOODS AND DIGESTION, AND THE CHEMISTRY OF THE TISSUES, ORGANS, SECRETIONS AND EXCRETIONS OF THE BODY IN HEALTH AND DISEASE, TOGETHER WITH THE METHODS FOR PREPARING OR SEPARATING THEIR CHUEV CONSTITUENTS, AS ALSO FOR THEIR EXAMINATION IN DETAIL, AND AN OUTLINE SYLLABUS OF A PRACTICAL COURSE OF INSTRUCTION FOR STUDENTS. ***** It was published in 1884 in Philadelphia. It is divided in four parts: Book I. Nutrition and Food». Book II. Digestion and the Secretions concerned. Book III. The Chemistry of the Tissues, Organs, and Remaining Secretions. Book IV. The Excreta : the Fæces and Urine. This is only one book. I'll look for more, going back as much as I can and then going forward again. The subject interests me, because history (used to be?) very important in medicine, and because the claimed absence of nutrition makes zero sense to me. How are doctors even supposed to have a chance at recognising deficiencies if they don't know about them? Oops. I apologise for the long message. That was not my intention. It is a subject that is dear to me (obviously).

[@IsmailAbdulMusic]

The agricultural revolution changed a lot of aspects of how we look, operate and function

[@krista9835]

That was so interesting. I wish it had been longer!😊

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks! I was nervous enough... longer would have had me really nervous.

[@krista9835]

@ToniMacAskill Well, you did a wonderful job. And by the way, I have enjoyed your contributions to other videos, too! Thank you (and your husband) for keeping us informed. I really appreciate it.

[@ToniMacAskill]

@@krista9835 Thanks so much. It is a labor of love for both us.

[@ceeemm1901]

Onya Toni, you're a legend!

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thank you! ❤

[@beat1riz]

Thanks.

[@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x]

Very nice presentation by Toni! History needs to be known, all branches included and is always interesting. What was news (and strange) to me that Toni claimed that wild meat's superiority to domesticated versions is a lost knowledge. It must be due to geographical differences because I've considered it a continued knowledge, widely believed today by the everyday person based on my everyday experiences.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks! I eat meat rarely. But I think the issue regarding wild meat is that is not readily available or inexpensive.

[@marischasloan7463]

Thank you for a great video.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks! So glad you enjoyed it.

[@gabymalembe]

I lived for two years on a Pacific island 60 years ago. The people seemed very healthy though older people didn’t track age. They ate no vegetables and no processed food, and almost no fruit except for coconut. I think it’s the processed food that is key, not the nutritional benefit of vegetables and fruit, but as in blue zones, a hundred things were different from here so it’s hard to untangle causes.

[@anonimogonzalezperez4951]

so you don't know the real results of their diet, if you don't knew their age and other variables.

[@11235Aodh]

Coconut is a LOT of saturated fat, i can imagine them having a lot of heart disease. Unless the pacific island was Nauru, then heart disease isn't the only problem. Poor people.

[@nondescriptname715]

Splendid!

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks for the comment!

[@Tony-di5lp]

What a captivating talk...you're man..woman !

[@ToniMacAskill]

Chris helped a lot, of course!

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

@@ToniMacAskill Sure. Such things tend to be a teamwork. But your presentation was really great. I loved it.

[@ToniMacAskill]

@@BartBVanBockstaele Thanks so much!

[@georgewilson7808]

“Wow, so being Keto and then falling off the wagon causes insulin resistance..........I was keto, eating fat, no carbs, then I CRACKED but I wasn't eating excessive amounts, just reintroduced carbs quickly. I ballooned. It's taken me about 14 months to lose it. When I went on Keto, I lost the weight so quickly but I'm not doing keto again, no way.” susanaXpeace

[@peanutnutter1]

6:47 Sing a song of sixpence, A pocket full of rye, Four and twenty blackbirds Baked in a pie.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Yes! I had that in mind when I composed the talk.

[@peanutnutter1]

@ToniMacAskill I did wonder! Thanks for the talk, it was very enlightening 😀

[@lowbarbillcraig3689]

@2:00 "what about nutrition scientists ... you never hear about them". I'm struggling to make sense of this, I remember a 3 to 5 year period where I heard about Norman Borlaug way more than all other scientists combined. his field was botany so to be fair you may not be counting him as a nutrition scientist.

[@Viva-Longevity]

I made an episode about him! He was a true giant. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoOrq31tj7N7rJY

[@jasontree33]

Anything the Government say to eat i just do the opposite. I recommend reading “Health and Beauty Mastery” by Julian Bannett that book is a real eye opener about shocking stuff health industry is doing! I completely changed my habits

[@justin333eb]

totally agree

[@dj.h7424]

@@justin333eb Spam ebook scam with bought 'likes', just in case you didn't know.

[@BM1982.V2]

Depends if the government is following science or following industry to make food guides. Some countries are better at this, some countries fall behind because if they take certain items off the food guides industry gets angry. But I'm in Canada and our food guide is much better here than yours in the US. Half a plate of veggies and fruit, quarter plate of your protein, and a quarter for whole grains. If your country changes their food guide and industry gets pissed off that means they are likely doing something right. Our dairy and meat producers got super angry when this was implemented because there is no longer a dairy category and instead of meat it just says proteins and told to limit saturated fat. Our government ignored industry and went to the science instead. I know the US FDA is still very heavily tied to industry.

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

@@BM1982.V2 Right, the Canadian food guide IS more in line with the science. Our food guidelines come out of the USDA whose mission is to promote American food and support food producers. Total conflict of interest.

[@stevencole7331]

Royalty of the past struggled with life and health span because they were more sedimentary and ate many sweet treats . Now in the past most of that type of food was not available to regular folk as it was to expensive. That has completely flipped in modern society. A high financial status and better educated eat the foods of the lesser of the past. Funny how that worksx

[@MakeBelieve-u5k]

I am going to guess that you meant "sedentary." 🤣 Typos are an opportunity for a good laugh!

[@stevencole7331]

@MakeBelieve-u5k I will have to fire my AI proofreader which is up to nine .

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

@@stevencole7331 As a medical translator, I cannot afford to use them. My translations have to be correct, not sort-of plausible-looking.

[@BM1982.V2]

Depends how far back you go. If you go back further to the times of Egypt the pharoahs had no access to sugar or processed foods but they did eat far more meat than the peasants. Archeological evidence shows these pharoahs had much more heart disease than the poor people. The royalty you speak of also had much more meat than peasants so while sugary treats likely contributed to ill health, the heavy meat diets also played a huge part that the poor never had access to.

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

@@BM1982.V2 Which is why we don't vilify any particular food, but all excess. To that, we now have to add the impact on resources and the environment. If we don't change voluntarily, circumstances will make sure we do, or die horribly while taking most of current biology with us.

[@arthurbostrom4912]

Super talk Toni, thank you!

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thank you! ❤

[@ABCDEF-zl6nj]

Woohoo…Canada’s Food Guide pictured at the beginning. 🎉

[@georgewilson7808]

“I did the carnivore diet for 3 months No organ meat and my Cholesterol went up to the low four hundreds. My dr told me to get off the diet.”

[@robsengahay5614]

Though I gave up consuming animal products 5 years ago (when 59) I’m afraid that I remain hooked on processed foods both due to taste and convenience. I am aware that they aren’t good for me and I very much doubt that I will live to 90. I admire people who stick to WFPB and the effort and commitment to that especially if they are young. The young think they are immortal.

[@MarkSheeres]

I do pretty well but Halloween was not kind to me. Only a few kids showed up to take the candy I bought …. It was me and that candy in a battle of willpower for a few days until I gave it to someone else.

[@ToniMacAskill]

@@MarkSheeres I need to find a home for our left over Halloween candy. I was packing frantically on Halloween for a trip the next morning and we have a lot of candy left over. It will be crying my name when we return later this month. Yikes.

[@MarkSheeres]

And now I’m at his house and just ate another candy 😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ToniMacAskill]

@@MarkSheeres Ha ha ha ha

[@11235Aodh]

After watching a whole bunch of lectures by dr. Peter Rogers on the biochemistry aspect and what these foods to to our mitochondria. It's became pretty easy for me, i don't see ultra processed as food anymore, just a colored box or package. Maybe knowledge will also help you? (i know you know they aren't good, but exactly how bad is maybe not known)

[@cal6610]

I learned that wild game was about 15% fat... good to know. Also, the discovery of health effects on the sprouting of lentils beans were fascinating - could this be associated with another fermentation group? (I think about ways to expand the biodiversity in my gut). My breakfast bowl consists of a layer of stir-fried (canola oil) purple cabbage, topped with a layers of steamed kale, natto, Kamut, black beans, whole oat groats and finally topped with a lentil pancake and sometimes frozen berries. The bowl is then soaked in soy milk. Top that! Do I also need sprouted beans????

[@Viva-Longevity]

😋 When can we come over to your house for dinner? 😁

[@brucejensen3081]

@@cal6610 kangaroo (apart from offal and the tail), goat, rabbit, deer, etc are like 1 to 2% fat. Not much wild game is going to have more than 2% fat in the meat. I guess in the really cold regions, it might

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

@@Viva-Longevity That makes three of us. Nattou is my number one favourite food. I call it the Éposses of the soy world and it is insanely delicious.

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

Our preparation methods seem to be different (I am a very lazy bachelor) but what we eat seems to be identical. The only thing I don't use is oil. I have a bottle of canola oil in my fridge, but I have no use for it.

[@cal6610]

@@BartBVanBockstaele I apologize for leading you to believe that I am NOT lazy. My wife "Instant Pot's" the beans and whole intact grains on the weekend (freeze some, refrigerate some). I just scoop them out in the morning. The canola oil is used to stir fry about half the red cabbage, the rest of the cabbage is chopped and stored in white vinegar. I use the chopped cabbage in vinegar for my afternoon salad. Good to know there are others eating like I do.

[@id3alpolitik]

The more things change, the more they remain the same. Except we eat more and of less variety, and are and have even more overweight - and accelerated the destruction of our habitat in pursuit of these.

[@QCultura-jornada]

Happy life wealth life 🧬

[@RobertBurg-o1z]

Thank you for the excellent history presentation. Humans currently treat plants, water, air, and the land at least as bad (if not worse) than the Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation (CAFO) animal operations. Instead of standing off and throwing verbal hand grenades at each other, please find a conversation where a carnivore advocate and a whole food plant based (WFPB) advocate have a meaningful discussion about how they arrive at what appear to be opposite successful approaches to long-term (10+ years) healthspan. Does epigenetics explain how some people decline on a WFPB diet and thrive long-term on a carnivore diet while other people decline on a carnivore diet and thrive long-term on a WFPB diet? Thank you

[@georgewilson7808]

FOOD HABITS IN LATER LIFE STUDY was undertaken among five cohorts in Japan, Sweden, Greece and Australia. Legumes were found to be the most important dietary predictor of survival in older people of different ethnicities. The results showed that for every 20 grams (one ounce) increase in daily legumes intake there was an 8% reduction in the risk of death. This study shows that no matter what your ethnic background or where you live, eat more legumes to live longer, especially as you age. Of all the food groups including meat, legumes alone had consistent and statistically significant results.

[@RobertBurg-o1z]

@@georgewilson7808 Are you referring to the IUNS study? I looked and did not find your information about legumes or get any result in a search for the word legume. Can you provide a link or detailed reference?

[@georgewilson7808]

@@RobertBurg-o1z I put in FOOD HABITS IN LATER LIFE STUDY and legumes and this study is the first thing to come up.

[@georgewilson7808]

FOOD HABITS IN LATER LIFE STUDY was undertaken among five cohorts in Japan, Sweden, Greece and Australia. Legumes were found to be the most important dietary predictor of survival in older people of different ethnicities. The results showed that for every 20 grams (one ounce) increase in daily legumes intake there was an 8% reduction in the risk of death. This study shows that no matter what your ethnic background or where you live, eat more legumes to live longer, especially as you age. Of all the food groups including meat, legumes alone had consistent and statistically significant results.

[@thalesnemo2841]

Toxic foods full of oxalates , phytates, and lectins too Just eat meats!

[@georgewilson7808]

@@thalesnemo2841 Hogwash. Oxalates, phytates and lectins and any other made up concerns do nothing. I have been whole food vegan for 7 years and lost 65 pounds and reversed my diabetes and heart disease. I don't think a second about oxalates.

[@julioandresgomez3201]

​@@thalesnemo2841 those would be a big deal ... if you ate them raw.

[@911heroesandme]

VIVA PLANT CHOMPERS!

[@Nicksonian]

I’m not sure the right MacAskill is presenting this channel. Lol…

[@ToniMacAskill]

Thanks but I laugh at this! Chris was a major help with this talk. His talk as much as mine. And he is much better in front of an audience or a camera than I am.

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

@@ToniMacAskill I think you are both great. Different styles, but both great. I envy you. I am far more boring.

[@Nicksonian]

@@ToniMacAskill I meant it with tongue in cheek, although I wish I could deliver a speech as well. I came to this channel, in part, because Chris oozes sincerity. Like Linus says: "He'll come here because I have the most sincere pumpkin patch and he respects sincerity." I wonder how close you are to Carmel and the late Charles Shultz.

[@11235Aodh]

They are both under the control of Michelle Cen, the true puppetmasteress!

[@KatharsisderWelt]

Goes to show that we are overpopulated. Are the wild animals are gone, and all the wild wilderness areas have all but disappeared.

[@11235Aodh]

Wild mammalian biomass is 4% (humans are 36% and our pets and livestock is 60%..).

[@RobertBurg-o1z]

As someone said,” Nutrition science is an oxymoron.” Researchers seem to start with an idea, then look only at data that supports their idea, and discount/denigrate anything that differs. Sometimes they attack a differing messenger instead of addressing the differing message. The two opposing camps are self-reinforcing: Plant-based advocates go to plant-based conferences and listen to lectures, anecdotal stories, and interpreted studies to support their view. Low carb/keto/carnivore advocates go to Low carb/keto/carnivore conferences and listen to lectures, anecdotal stories, and interpreted studies to support their view. Each group compares the best examples of their view with the worst examples of the other view. Instead of collaborations, most conversations are set up as confrontations/debates/’versus’ with expectations of a ‘winner’ and a ‘loser’ instead of improved knowledge and understanding. Perhaps a better collaboration question might be the following: Why do some people decline on a whole food plant based (WFPB) diet and thrive long-term (10,20,30+ years) on a more carnivore diet while other people decline on a carnivore diet and thrive long-term on a more WFPB diet? Does epigenetics explain how? Thank you

[@Viva-Longevity]

It's a great question. I do speak at both types of conferences, btw; I'm speaking at a carnivore/keto conference this February. On a population basis, I don't think there is much controversy. Plant-dominant diets-Asian & Mediterranean as people used to live them, vegetarian as the Adventists do today-yield much longer lives than any variation of animal-heavy diets. But individuals are not populations and there are food intolerances & wrecked microbiomes. For those people, they do better in the short term with some typle of elimination diet, including carnivore, rice, potato, or milk diet. It's just that even on an individual level, individuals don't do well on any of the elimination diets for more than a decade or two. Somehow they have to figure out their food intolerances and fix their microbiomes if they can.

[@georgewilson7808]

There are 1.4 billion Hindu 43% of which don't eat any meat.

[@RobertBurg-o1z]

@@Viva-Longevity Thank you for the quick reply. I understand about elimination diets and microbiome situations. Do you have a link to any of your previous talks/interviews at a keto/carnivore gathering or podcast?

[@brucejensen3081]

Funny how you just need to eat a tiny amount of high oxalate weeds, which they would have been trodding on, to get enough C. You would think the army would be eating everything edible at hand. Clearly not.

[@brucejensen3081]

Like the really funny one was the sailers getting scurvy that were getting spices, when a lot of the spice was cloves and its full of vitamin C

[@Viva-Longevity]

Fascinating!

[@MrRourk]

Diet is only part do daily standing qiqong, 8 brocade qigong, and sanchin kata for a long life.

[@Nicksonian]

Proof that there’s nothing new under the sun…at least where nutrition is concerned.

[@notrueflagshere198]

The trouble with World War I was that they didn't have Twinkies.

[@lorah3005]

Great! 👍 Whole food plant based for the environment and health; vegan for the victims! *Ask your city government to sign the Plant Based Treaty!* 🖖

[@dawnnwilliams2946]

Let each person choose their optimal diet for themselves! I’m grown I don’t need you or any one telling me what to eat.

[@lorah3005]

@@dawnnwilliams2946 While personal choice is important, it's vital to be informed about how our diets impact health, the environment, and animal welfare. Scientific research consistently shows that plant-based diets can enhance well-being and contribute to a more sustainable food system.

[@dj.h7424]

@@dawnnwilliams2946if one is genuinely mature one will consider the science and already know everyone has a choice; if someone wants to be unhealthy and a burden to family and society later in life then it's a choice,...we can see it all around nowadays and all through history!!

[@dawnnwilliams2946]

@ Yes some people will make bad choices and some people will make choices of which you don’t agree. Some people’s choices will be completely uninformed. Some people will look at the same data and arrive at different conclusions about their dietary intake. However what I’m saying is that no one should have the right to force another to go by what they think. I’m saying I disagree with trying to make other or all people eat plant based diets based on an interpretation of scientific research.

[@lorah3005]

@@dawnnwilliams2946 No one should have the right to force another to go by what they think, thus don't force nonhuman animals into slaughterhouses.

[@viveviveka2651]

Chris: can I watch your videos on X? I prefer X, but the videos don't seem as accessible or well organized. Or maybe I'm just a lot more familiar with YT? IDK, but I want to turn it around and migrate more and more to X.

[@TerriblePerfection]

You will live longer if you ditch the sunglasses and get full-spectrum sunlight on your retina and skin. Light is more important than food. It's our primary fuel source. 🌞 🌞 🌞

[@eliotorion9376]

My friend started to eat meat again because he believed that it was the only way to restore his decaying teeth. What are your thoughts on the relationship of tooth health and fat soluble vitamins? I went vegan against the advice of almost everyone in my community. They follow the teachings of The Weston price foundation. they believe that eating a wide variety of animals is necessary for good health. I hear lots of stories about the sickly malnourished children and babies of health conscious vegans who were restored to health with bone broth. milk. and fish.

[@Viva-Longevity]

Dunno if you’re aware of the series I made on how long health influencers live, but many Weston Price influencers were featured because many of them die so young.

[@eliotorion9376]

@@Viva-Longevity I watched all those videos and I really liked them but from my own research it seemed like the Weston A pricers you talked about were dying from the fermented cod liver oil. most of the ones I know don't use it and they eat exactly like the healthy traditional diets you talk about in this video. lots of whole plants and a variety of animals with emphasis on eating every part including the head, organs and bones.

[@k.h.6991]

I've heard those stories too. If they're not urban myths, I think they might refer to B12 deficiency. Modern vegans know to supplement that.

[@eliotorion9376]

@@k.h.6991 That is not what they say though. Instead they assert it has to do with a lack of vitamins A D and K which our modern diets are supposedly lacking in severely and that we don't benefit from supplementing those in the same way as from eating animals. I really want to be a vegan because I don't want to hurt animals but these stories do scare me. they aren't urban myths they were witnessed directly by people i know and trust.

[@rahulrahul_awsjunkie]

@@eliotorion9376- if you’re trying to go vegan for “animals”, I’d ask you to read up “vegeterian myth” and form your own opinion/decision.

[@amanbansal3651]

Loren Cordain, paleo diet author, has FTD

[@Viva-Longevity]

😔 I’m so sorry to hear this. He’s just a couple years older than me and I have 2 copies of the APOE4 gene, which pre disposes us to dementia. I wonder if he does too?

[@amanbansal3651]

@PlantChompers I'm not sure if he has that gene.

[@anonimogonzalezperez4951]

precisely cordain in his book states that paleo tribes lifespan is about 60-65 years, while there are certain excepcions as kitavans (other famous paleo paradox), who lives 80 years. Guess the respective diets. Of the tribes, I suppose cordain have been eating a high meat diet, maybe I am wrong.

[@11235Aodh]

@@anonimogonzalezperez4951 Which paleo tribes as the Inuit die mostly before 40 years of age. People in the past ate way more fiber and carbohydrates than is assumed. (we can now measure starch remains which we couldn't 40 years ago).

[@bwoodward9564]

Our species was carnivore for 350,000 years. Bart Kay.

[@Viva-Longevity]

That’s the opinion of an unemployed person with no background in paleo anthropology. Or you could listen to a very respected paleo anthropologist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2GoXpRrrMmEidU

[@bwoodward9564]

@@Viva-Longevity It is pure logic. It is self evident. Examine the Inuit, Zulu.

[@BM1982.V2]

​@@bwoodward9564the inuit have a lifespan 10 years shorter than the general population. Old studies thought they had very little heart disease but that was because they had poor medical records and quite often heart attacks weren't listed on death certificates. Once modern researchers looked into this they found much higher rates. The inuit also have a genetic mutation to prevent their bodies from going into ketosis. It's next to impossible to apply the same health data from the inuit to the general population because they metabolize fats differently from us.

[@BM1982.V2]

​@@bwoodward9564and the zulu eat a primarily starch based diet, they also eat animals but their staples are maize, sorghum, porridge, beans, pumpkin, potatoes, and lots of veggies. Many traditional zulu dishes are vegetarian. They eat meat and milk for sure but also a lot of fruits and veggies.

[@BM1982.V2]

​@@bwoodward9564Not sure if links work but here from an African website so no western bias it's shown that the zulu dishes are primarily vegetarian. Most of the meat eaten is special occasions such as weddings and coming of age ceremonies. Western people probably thought they ate more meat because having visitors to your tribe is probably a special occasion so when people came to observe they saw the food was a lot of meat but that's not the daily diet. That's just special occasions. And it won't let me post the link...

[@CraigHocker]

The final statement - "We really needed to learn more from history." is a bit much. This conclusion just amounts to cherry picking your data. There was also a lot of diet nonsense in these old books and knowing the difference between the nonsense and good advice did take a great deal of work in the past 100 years of science research.

[@Viva-Longevity]

Do you think there was as much nonsense in these old books as there is in books today?

[@kentroskelley1389]

The huge amount of non biased science makes it plain, if you desire longevity and quality of life eat a variety of whole plant foods.

[@ArcoZakus]

⁠@@kentroskelley1389, " ... non biased science ... " Good luck figuring out what science really is "non biased" -- if such a thing even exists. .

[@robblankenstein6825]

Hiding your bias. Good move.

[@Viva-Longevity]

Yikes, we didn’t mean to hide our bias toward science. Sorry if it came off that way.

[@robblankenstein6825]

@@Viva-Longevity plant choppers there we go, with a comedy act no less.

[@Viva-Longevity]

Was there something factually incorrect or not aligned with science in this episode?

[@k.h.6991]

You've been fooling us when you have your wife telling us you have a book problem. I suspect your wife is reading them right alongside you.

[@ToniMacAskill]

Ha ha ha. I can't read them as fast as he can.

[@hoboonwheels9289]

The wealthy ate meat and poor ate vegetarian.

[@dj.h7424]

the wealthy got sick of course!

[@mcanultymichelle]

No need to spend all that money just go to the oldest book. it tells you how to be healthy and how to eat and how to farm go to the Bible

[@moestietabarnak]

as if they had modern tool and research....

[@nickashton3584]

ketovore for me