What happened to Braindead Robin/Phantom Graffiti?

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@StreamlineWorkshop
@StreamlineWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Edit: Clarification that I need to add now that it's been brought to my attention. With regards to Father Ashton, Kite-Kun and Jack: I did not make it clear enough in my video that what I discussed was how their video was received rather than the contents of the actual video. There was a line that I included before I talked about the live streams and how Ashton felt towards the situation after the fact but I should have gone back to make it more clear. "These two videos would go on to shape a majority of the drama as their attitudes towards Robin would be echoed in all videos that would follow after them." Ashton and everyone else involved have talked to Elliot and made amends for what happened. Regardless of how the stream and video's were taken by the audience, they intended to present the situation as Elliot having many problems that should be addressed that were not being addressed because everyone was focusing so much on Elliot's faults. If anyone has gone out of their way to harass Ashton or anyone else. Stop that, no one should be or deserves to be harassed. If this video has somehow given the impression I believe any of them to be ableist in any way, that was not the message I was trying to send. Do not go out of your way to message, harass or attack them. If you want to see the full Timeline here's a link: twitter.com/StreamWorks_/status/1608254289163739137
@Molotovangale
@Molotovangale Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Also, that intro was FIRE!
@GaetorCreation
@GaetorCreation Жыл бұрын
how much research did you actually do by yourself? and why are you not responding to both Ashton and Kites messages trying to reach out to you
@StreamlineWorkshop
@StreamlineWorkshop Жыл бұрын
@@GaetorCreation I did all the research on my own. I was not there to whitness the situation and it was only after I'd gotten a general idea that I went to contact people involved. As for the second part of that I'll be copy pasting a comment I've already typed out: I will not blame you for assuming I have been ignoring DM's as from an outsider's perspective it very much does look like that. I want to clarify it here for anyone who might be watching that I do not check my DM's. On Discord I have 30 something friend requests so I don't typically notice when that goes up or down, Soph has messaged me about a friend wanting to talk about the video but I'm not sure if that had anything to do with this. I didn't respond to that message as I was dealing with a personal crisis I will not go into detail with here. Twitter similarly does not give me a notification when I have new DM requests and I never touch the DM box unless I have new messages because I have anxiety. Same goes for Instagram which I haven't touch since I posted. It wasn't until you mentioned it in this video that I went and checked and saw the attempts to contact me. I am very hard to reach, I won't deny that. I spend my time on a private Discord account for close friends only and usually that is the only part of the internet I'll be active on. If you still want to talk after this comment I'll be trying to open that door of communication, otherwise, hope that the rest of the year is better for you all.
@Wroar2020s
@Wroar2020s Жыл бұрын
@@StreamlineWorkshop oh hey haven't seen your vids in a long time. Also Major cloog should've got a KZbin account ban for his uh ####### vids especially with the jellybean drama... He's is the only person that needs to be put in the FBI watchlist for various stuff he did on his channel and all the damage he's done.
@WhoAmIHmmm
@WhoAmIHmmm Жыл бұрын
Good video but will you ever apologize over the Erin Clover situation?
@nixienooo
@nixienooo Жыл бұрын
Cloog is literally my age. Actual adults shouldn’t get involved with drama for kids/early teens. A university-aged adult thinks that actively bullying a middle schooler is okay needs to face serious repercussions. Also, I feel so bad for the kid, but this is a huge reason why people shouldn’t be on social media until they’re more mature. That kid should’ve been seeking professional help in some sort of way
@PlayfulDoggy
@PlayfulDoggy Жыл бұрын
This is a very misguided take. Cloog isn't "bullying", they even state in the description to not harass anyone. Also, isn't this just commentary content but animated. Why is it now an issue. His whole shtick is talking about the weird side of the furry Fandom, gacha community, etc. Please check on their side and get more information before making such an unfair assumption.
@wxles
@wxles Жыл бұрын
@@PlayfulDoggy yeah cloog doesn’t use all of his energy to harass people which he even states himself, his whole thing is basically making fun of dumb shits on the internet and not to get involved with drama
@wildfire9280
@wildfire9280 Жыл бұрын
@@PlayfulDoggy I’d argue it falls under bullying. The schtick is that you’re supposed to enjoy the bullying (or the cases where ‘distaste’ is very much deserved). Pyro owns up to building a career off bullying children, I don’t see what’s wrong in that for anyone else.
@Wroar2020s
@Wroar2020s Жыл бұрын
@@PlayfulDoggy Im sorry but you have been brainwashed by his ideology, Please get some help
@BOBOS_SILLYSTUFF
@BOBOS_SILLYSTUFF Жыл бұрын
Cloog isn’t “bullying” him.phxtom just got banned from his server so he made fake accusations about cloog being a groomer
@fkase977
@fkase977 Жыл бұрын
Cloog is just a 5 year old with a deep voice and a large fanbase
@theidioticghost
@theidioticghost Жыл бұрын
Even 5 year olds can be more responsible, sense able and more empathetic than him
@syobai_loves_cash
@syobai_loves_cash Жыл бұрын
Can't argue with Fukase
@johnoconnell5004
@johnoconnell5004 Жыл бұрын
I think some of his animations are funny.
@fkase977
@fkase977 Жыл бұрын
@@syobai_loves_cash sure can’t
@tridungta9151
@tridungta9151 Жыл бұрын
@@theidioticghostyou sure?
@twisteddanid4669
@twisteddanid4669 9 ай бұрын
"The suicide was fake because he didn't die." Ok, what if he fucking did? Then what, genius? Shouldn't we be happy that it was unsuccessful? The lack of empathy with these people is staggering.
@pillowlistener9079
@pillowlistener9079 Жыл бұрын
I think people have to realise mental health isnt an excuse but can explain your actions behind something, which is exactly what robin keeps trying to say and no one will listen
@ThetaLavWaves
@ThetaLavWaves Жыл бұрын
Fr cause Julian marrero is a good example also 😭
@WinglessCastiel
@WinglessCastiel Жыл бұрын
Mhm yeah, it seems like robin legit has some sort of severe case of BPD or something adjacent to it, possibly comorbid with bipolar disorder. (idk i study psychology but im not a professional) I have BPD as well however I don't have the "blackout" they keep talking about, I do have the emotional outbursts and find it really hard to control myself but I am conscious of what I'm doing. I think they should seek a professional due to the severity, and I really think the internet is the worst place they can be right now.
@Z_Xvv
@Z_Xvv 9 ай бұрын
At the same time, they continue to do said actions. It's like saying sorry over and over again, but you still do it again and use the excuse of "Kids will be kids". Even though they are sick, how come people haven't done anything about it? His family may not care about him, but if he's so sick, how come no one as like reported their unwellness? How come online people haven't reported this to anyone?
@ambroseghost1351
@ambroseghost1351 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure Cloog wouldn’t actually behave like this in front of a court.
@ChxrryBxtchBoye
@ChxrryBxtchBoye Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if he did act like this
@gem_b7798
@gem_b7798 Жыл бұрын
@@ChxrryBxtchBoye farm it is i guess
@weezarddd__
@weezarddd__ 7 ай бұрын
this aged poorly 💀 turns out cloog’s gonna be in court after all
@ambroseghost1351
@ambroseghost1351 7 ай бұрын
@@weezarddd__ From what I know some of his victims are trying to take legal action although it’s really hard to arrest someone when your over seas.
@felis00
@felis00 Жыл бұрын
honestly idk if i can watch any longer seeing how that "cloog" guy behaved 😭 he is a seriously troubled individual and i hope he can learn to grow as a person. wow
@bobtheball5384
@bobtheball5384 Жыл бұрын
Me too bru, it just reminded me of that Era of "cringe animation xDdd" older teenagers who clearly should know better or even grown ass adults did making fun of 10-12 year olds for drawing art poorly and trying to express themselves. He needs help as much as this individual here (Graffiti), because at least I commend the young man for at least trying to make an effort, cloog doesn't even want to try.
@felis00
@felis00 Жыл бұрын
@@bobtheball5384 right, those godawful "i killed them!!!! *jumpscares you xD*" comments were so awkward and embarrassing to read ☠he sounds like an ifunny kid. on a serious note someone needs to contact cloog's parents and let them know what their manchild is doing under their household
@phase1437
@phase1437 Жыл бұрын
@@bobtheball5384 *me who enjoys making cringe as an older teen* *wants to d13*
@descrates3545
@descrates3545 Жыл бұрын
I sadly think he's beyond growing as a person
@Hawk_Bro
@Hawk_Bro Жыл бұрын
​@@descrates3545do you think you could give me more general information? From what I'm gathering, Cloog is being a pretty big douchebag
@Austin-LA
@Austin-LA Жыл бұрын
It's so gross that so many people actively were mad that a minor didn't know how to OD correctly, going as far to EXPLAIN what doses are harmful and harmless. That fact nobody called that crap out It's beyond nasty.
@candyrushsweetest
@candyrushsweetest Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it pisses me off that people would just let that slide. If the minor found that video, they probably would've *ACTUALLY* went through with it, especially with all the hate they were getting.
@Austin-LA
@Austin-LA Жыл бұрын
@@bruh-xr2bx that's still a excuse tho. A emotionally unstable teenager isn't going to be thinking rationally when thier in the middle of trying to take their own life. It's even more fucked when you remember that one of the people during the whole thing was a THERAPIST dismissing and insulting said teenager. That is what disgust me the most because that's just Irresponsible and fucking dangerous. Adults were involved and just laughed at a teenager who failed to die. That's pure evil no matter how you look at it.
@smh5179
@smh5179 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the new generation 😭
@butterflying2966
@butterflying2966 Жыл бұрын
Elliot did hold himself accountable rather than guilt tripping and continuing it on. I’m glad he acknowledged his actions and I seriously hope he’s doing okay now.
@GaetorCreation
@GaetorCreation Жыл бұрын
@@monokuro-hn9qk we're?
@GaetorCreation
@GaetorCreation Жыл бұрын
@@monokuro-hn9qk just saw the screenshots That's not guilt tripping
@GaetorCreation
@GaetorCreation Жыл бұрын
@@monokuro-hn9qk how so? Is there any specific screenshots? Anything to make note of like his Twitter or Instagram? We're is he guilt trippy?
@GaetorCreation
@GaetorCreation Жыл бұрын
@@monokuro-hn9qk doing that now
@pequenaesposa3286
@pequenaesposa3286 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for any child who has to experience the internet. Anyone who thinks a child isn't allowed or expected to be childish is just embarrassing themselves. Y'all need to be shipped to an island with the pedos and phobics
@lovelylantern7916
@lovelylantern7916 Жыл бұрын
another situation where a community failed another child
@arin_102
@arin_102 Жыл бұрын
don’t we love the internet
@kazzykun5235
@kazzykun5235 8 ай бұрын
​@@arin_102let's be real, the Internet isn't exactly for kids, especially those with mental health issues and unmonitored access to the social media.
@blossom_crying
@blossom_crying Жыл бұрын
Woah, never thought I’d see myself appear a bit in a Streamline Workshop video! Welcome back^^ This video was very helpful and taught me about so much more information I didn’t know of when this was all originally occurring! I’m glad Robin, from what I know, is receiving help; while I personally don’t think he’s the best, I’m in support of him getting help. Regarding the Domino Dot claims via Robin about obsession, and being a former close friend of Domino who is the current owner of the Domino Dot Mascot (said mascot being the one with the Discord icon seeming mask, messy greyish hair, and dark hoodie/sweater) I wouldn’t put it past Domino as our falling out was caused by them and their obsessions and behaviour. But I’m not ready to speak out on what happened via our falling out, and even if so it’s not my place to because said obsessions involved others who’s stories are not mine to tell, holding a lot of personal details, and since from my memory, I never saw anything of Domino making inappropriate comments back regarding Robin specifically, keep it as alleged; It’s a long, messy, and emotional ride 😅 Anyways great video, Streamline ☺️❤️
@kittydogDiamond
@kittydogDiamond Жыл бұрын
Hi crying blossom
@WhoAmIHmmm
@WhoAmIHmmm Жыл бұрын
She didn't apologized about the Erin Clover situation.
@zoe_thedevilgamer
@zoe_thedevilgamer Жыл бұрын
​@@WhoAmIHmmm ???
@WhoAmIHmmm
@WhoAmIHmmm Жыл бұрын
@@zoe_thedevilgamer apparently she had a drama about someone called Erin Clover
@localtrashmamal
@localtrashmamal Жыл бұрын
I never get why whenever a minor fakes suicide, there are so many people who are mad that they faked it, but only a few genuinely seem glad that they are alive. On one hand, I get being mad that someone lied about something so serious, but on the other...would you be happier if they actually went through with it?? Edit: Yeah, this comment is hot garbage looking back and could off been worded way better. I should clarify that I meant overly harsh reactionary channels rather than friends and family of the person involved but I don't think that'll make it seem any better so there. I'll not be removing it due to the likes, thanks for coming to my TED-talk.
@thatonequeergundamfan71
@thatonequeergundamfan71 Жыл бұрын
Apparently its making fun of suicide?
@b.bird.
@b.bird. Жыл бұрын
Also casually ignoring the fact no mentally stable person would even think about it, let alone attempt to fake suicide
@localtrashmamal
@localtrashmamal Жыл бұрын
@@b.bird. You pulled the words out of my mouth brother.
@L333ny
@L333ny Жыл бұрын
It’s a betrayal to the person especially if they were a friend Of COURSE WE DONT WANT TO FUCKIN SEE A PERSON DEAD
@CloudESkies
@CloudESkies Жыл бұрын
Cause it’s a personal betrayal and mentally damaging to the people that they knew??😅 Of course nobody wanted them dead, that’s a jump on the gun, they shouldn’t had ever considered faking it to begin with. No mentally sane person would put people through that much turmoil and come back like “uh yeah so I’m alive sorry about that”. That feels so gross.
@DystopianOverture
@DystopianOverture Жыл бұрын
I'm glad a kid didn't actually kill themselves. The way the adults in this situation acted is reckless.
@WhoAmIHmmm
@WhoAmIHmmm Жыл бұрын
I find it disgusting how Cloog keeps growing despite the things he has done.
@Xx_D4RK_K1N_xX
@Xx_D4RK_K1N_xX Жыл бұрын
It’s because shocker when someone gets their name prevalent in something known to not be “lawful” they don’t ever get effected by “unlawful” things. Obviously things like the animation community and furries know of cloog’s bad actions but a small child who refuses to even suffer the idea of someone who just likes anthro wolfs would never watch a video against cloog especially when they see it as “defending animal cronists” due to what they have been told by stuff like media and cloog.
@WhoAmIHmmm
@WhoAmIHmmm Жыл бұрын
@@Xx_D4RK_K1N_xX some "right-hand" man told me that graffiti was already screwed when she did x thing on cloog's server, little did the guy realized that his server must've had about 2-4k members at the time while his video about graffiti reached almost 100k views
@Xx_D4RK_K1N_xX
@Xx_D4RK_K1N_xX Жыл бұрын
@@WhoAmIHmmm omg
@_-Emerald-_
@_-Emerald-_ 3 ай бұрын
Well he's getting his downfall now
@WhoAmIHmmm
@WhoAmIHmmm 3 ай бұрын
@@_-Emerald-_ Yes!
@ironicallylight
@ironicallylight Жыл бұрын
god, I remember the video of robin's "brother" claiming the unalived themselves. I had a panic attack only to later learn they faked it. It hurt so bad to realize I felt real pain over something like that and stop following the situation and him in general. But to know all he went through does truly hurt, i do hope he gets better.
@puffpastrykitckitty792
@puffpastrykitckitty792 Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up for everyone here, robin goes by Elliott now
@puffpastrykitckitty792
@puffpastrykitckitty792 Жыл бұрын
Hdjnddjn had a mini heart attack when domino dot was mentioned, as an ex of theirs I can clarify that domino is just as bad as Elliott sometimes even worse
@graveyardDarling
@graveyardDarling Жыл бұрын
also ex friend of domino, domino sucks. they would constantly misgender me on purpose
@SugarMarsh
@SugarMarsh Жыл бұрын
and this is why I don't trust people who make hating furries their whole personality
@gem_b7798
@gem_b7798 Жыл бұрын
I just not trust people who hate furries. so i can not draw humans, so what? people who bully kids for drawing looney toons esk character are insane
@TDisHere
@TDisHere Жыл бұрын
Welcome back stream! Wow never thought I'd hear Elliot's name again. I genuinely hope he's doing alright regardless of his mistakes. He's still a good and I think the hate towards him was way to much for him to handle ESPECIALLY from the user Drama Dogg. She's really been at play with the harassment and I hope that channel is gone someday.
@d3adl1mbs66
@d3adl1mbs66 Жыл бұрын
Im not going to tell anybody where he went because of obvious reasons. I don't want Elliot to get harassed all over again but I can confirm that he is safe and doing much better at the moment. Also yeah, fuck drama dogg, she tried to make me look like a creep solely because I dropped the drama and made up w Elliot because I feel like I'm somewhat responsible for staring the snowball with my first video. She couldn't stand the mere idea of me not trying to drag the drama out forever and started reaching.
@TDisHere
@TDisHere Жыл бұрын
@@d3adl1mbs66 That's such a relief. Thank goodness he's alright. Would definitely appreciate if you tell him that we are thinking about him and we hope he's doing well in art and his mental health. Your story is a great example on why I can't stand her. She's a hypocrite and her double standards is killing me
@d3adl1mbs66
@d3adl1mbs66 Жыл бұрын
@@TDisHere Apparantley this video sparked shit between him and other people again. It really sucks because the dude was doing so well. Although I feel like videos being made on him in general is likely a huge trigger so it doesn't suprise me. Explanation isn't an excuse however and I just hope it doesn't blow up again like it did last time for everyone's sake.
@rubyred6608760
@rubyred6608760 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing you all over Elliot’s channel, back when it was known as GraffitiAlopia. Never thought I would be seeing his name again, either.
@csarine
@csarine Жыл бұрын
Drama Dogg just wants drama, she has it in her name after all
@quartzaglubglub
@quartzaglubglub Жыл бұрын
Honestly, with this entire situation, it's a case where A LOT of people messed up. On the one hand, multiple people have essentially dogpiled on him from every angle, from former friends to just people who look at him and view his behavior as simply "cringe". From a young age, that can indeed cause irreparable damage and it's one of those things that can lead to making a lot of really dumb decisions. In hindsight, a lot of people were viewing it as a one sided thing, although it's hard to fault them for doing so given how most of it was presented from a one sided angle, which resulted in a chain reaction of one sided viewpoints. People dished out a lot of damage to someone who's barely a teenager and screwed them up badly, which is awful. On the other hand, Robin/Elliot's behavior is also unacceptable as they proceeded to dish out false allegations left and right and continued to dig themselves into a hole, and it came off as them only accepting responsibility when the hole got too deep to climb out of. Not to mention the fact that throughout all their dramas, they continued to encourage their fanbase and people in their discord server to dogpile their detractors, even wishing death on them and not stopping anyone from doing the same. And people who used to be associated with them were also dragged down by association due to their trust being abused for the purposes of dumb internet drama. Not to mention how while I do agree that kids exploring sexuality is important, they continuously put it out in public for the world to see, not only potentially triggering people who are sensitive to it, but also possibly put themselves in danger. Overall, I do hope Elliot gets better and I hope they're able to learn from their last mistakes and improve on their behavior. Everyone deserves that opportunity. At the same time, people are still going to be skeptical of any chances of improvement since history does tend to repeat itself with situations like this.
@Aranisveryfunny
@Aranisveryfunny 7 ай бұрын
I agree but again Elliot/Robin was mentally ill plus he was a kid man, a bunch of people dogpiled him. I wouldn't be okay either if a person was fatherashton was trying to say my s/h is fake and make fun of me. Elliot needs help, they were groomed, there is evidence for it. the poor kid was traumatized and me and him are practiaclly the same age and its terrifying man. i feel bad even if they did things which were wrong (im not denying it) but there was so much people could've done except "expose" them. also can confirm the sexuality thing though almost all their discord servers had suggestive art channels
@ShendonV
@ShendonV Жыл бұрын
All in all: What Robin did was awful (mainly the animal cruelty part) but he doesn’t seem irredeemable since he does feel genuine remorse for what he did and legit wants to be a better person.
@ghostlytavern129
@ghostlytavern129 Жыл бұрын
Agreed I love Bunnies but again he is a kid he’s barely a teen. If he gets proper help I’m sure he can heal and become better
@Blue_TheFishyCat
@Blue_TheFishyCat Жыл бұрын
I hate shit like this, and how people like to think there isn’t a problem when people decide to post self harm / attempts online. Making something public like that doesn’t automatically mean it’s not valid. These are usually cry’s for help, not to mention poor mental health can cause people to react in bad ways, I would know as someone who reacts poorly when I’m not ok. Regardless of showing it or not there it’s still an issue! Wanting attention that bad is still an issue! This kid clearly needs help regardless of how you look at this.
@Blue_TheFishyCat
@Blue_TheFishyCat Жыл бұрын
Of course mental health doesn’t excuse any actions that hurt others but it’s definitely a valid explanation and you need to give those peoples the space and time they need to get better. There’s a clear difference between someone claiming their no ok and then not doing anything to get better within a year when they have the means to do so, and a kid with serious mental issues having a hard time getting help as well as being harassed
@mk-aka-morgan8386
@mk-aka-morgan8386 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of this situation, but the way Cloog acts is exactly why I don’t want my nephew on this site 😔
@unicorn25m.hunicornyan36
@unicorn25m.hunicornyan36 Жыл бұрын
Other than the bullying young kids being furries, this video is also the reason why I never liked major cloog anymore and just hopefully he just. Realizes his mistakes and pretty much not do this anymore towards people who are young. Yes, even that graffiti is a toxic person that doesn't give him the right to bully it. I am so glad that someone's actually seeing major cloog being a toxic person
@xghostxsaltx
@xghostxsaltx Жыл бұрын
I mean, he’s openly a homophobe.
@unicorn25m.hunicornyan36
@unicorn25m.hunicornyan36 Жыл бұрын
@@xghostxsaltx who cloog? Then I think I found another reason why I don't support him anymore
@xghostxsaltx
@xghostxsaltx Жыл бұрын
@@unicorn25m.hunicornyan36 yea, he got banned from a server in for being openly homophobic and saying some homophobic things.
@unicorn25m.hunicornyan36
@unicorn25m.hunicornyan36 Жыл бұрын
@@xghostxsaltx Oh Dang can I have like a video or some Proof to back this up
@xghostxsaltx
@xghostxsaltx Жыл бұрын
@@unicorn25m.hunicornyan36I could send it to you, got any socials?
@socksxoxo
@socksxoxo Жыл бұрын
As somebody who was observing Robin's content from basically the start, I can say I felt nothing but distress at the state of their mental health. When the New year's video came out, I watched it and was highly panicked. I reported the video multiple times, just hoping it'd get taken down quickly. Obviously, mistakes were made here but when you said that people making videos on Robin often disregarded the context of their actions, I cannot agree more. Its been frustrating, as somebody who was a witness to it whilst it was happening, to see people blindly regard them as a horrible person. Anyway, this is a good watch, thanks Stream.
@skully.5
@skully.5 Жыл бұрын
I feel like in the drama commentary community as a whole people don't do any research to learn about the whole situation, and this video is a good refresher from that. The art commentary community has been a real "he said, she said" dumpster fire lately, it's how a lot of stuff, like this situation, gets overly out of hand. Do I think that Robin is bad? No but they most definitely need help. Do I think the commentary community should've handled the situation how they did? Not at all. Thank you for making this video Stream, it's good to know what actually happened in this situation and having full context. (Edit: grammar fix)
@AcidicKlxwn
@AcidicKlxwn Жыл бұрын
About the cat thing, he some time before deleting I think his latest channel, he said the cat murder was fake and he made it up, because he was like obsessed with murderers at the time
@AcidicKlxwn
@AcidicKlxwn Жыл бұрын
He also said that he got into other dramas, mentioned different situations and or made up some stuff whenever he felt there was too much attention on him
@Mitzthatonekid
@Mitzthatonekid Жыл бұрын
That's... A really odd thing to lie about. But oh well kids will be kids??
@csarine
@csarine Жыл бұрын
I'm one of Robin's former mutuals, I was on pretty good terms with him until he deleted his Instagram account, and cut contact with me and his other friends. I was sorta confused why, because at the time I was unaware of the drama surrounding him. I was aware of some of the things he did because he apologized for it on his Instagram story, he mainly apologized for his racist jokes and talking about his self-harm publicly with no trigger warnings because he was going through a bad episode if I remember correctly, it seemed pretty genuine but it's not my place to accept his apology, as I wasn't really affected by it. He also told me some of the things he did in the past, things he heavily regrets now, like the animal abuse, he told me that apparently it was a lie he made up when he was 13 just to be edgy. But I never realized how big this drama was until I found a lot of videos on it, which I only found after he cut contact with me and others. I won't defend him but I really do wish well for him, I hope his mental health gets better and he improves as a person. I feel bad for him for being shamed so publicly in front of thousands of people at a very young age, like what happened to Birdie, causing them to go down a very dark path. But in the end, I'm glad he finally removed himself of the internet, held himself accountable, and tried to put an end to this. Robin if you're reading this, get well soon.
@csarine
@csarine Жыл бұрын
Also about the comment at 10:33, I agree with it tbh, I normally enjoy Cloog's content, but the way he acted towards kids way younger than him was quite horrid.
@ghostlytavern129
@ghostlytavern129 Жыл бұрын
Agreed I wish he gets help
@syniimon-stix4022
@syniimon-stix4022 Жыл бұрын
SHE'S BACK! I've seriously missed seeing new content from you, stream, glad to see you're alright and still creating content. I haven't finished the video yet, but I am almost 100% sure that Cloog didn't respond to you because he knows you're a bigger content creator covering a topic he's involved in and he himself knows his own actions were deplorable and awful and he doesn't want to engage in it more. He knows what he was doing was bad, he knows it was cringey and just straight up stupid and it was also disrespectful to Robin. And because of that, he knows more people will see what he did and engaging in it more will make him more involved. He doesn't want all the backlash he deserves so he's choosing to keep the situation at an arm's reach.
@SophTheNeko
@SophTheNeko Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@DivineTerrors
@DivineTerrors Жыл бұрын
oh hey what r u doin here
@gem_b7798
@gem_b7798 Жыл бұрын
If cloog did respond it would be another stupid killing animation where he make his character murder stream, and then get charged because killing animations portraying a real person or character representing one being murdered legally count as threats
@mickleon6925
@mickleon6925 Жыл бұрын
tldw: 3 adults dont know what bpd is and accuse a child of self harming for attention, thus encouraging him to do it more because psychology
@Karma_0145
@Karma_0145 Жыл бұрын
Robin is a child man... I know what he did was wrong but it HURTS ME to see how Robin's mental health is so horrible...
@johnoconnell5004
@johnoconnell5004 Жыл бұрын
You talking about the TTG interation of Robin?
@hopefullamb
@hopefullamb 11 ай бұрын
shes perfectly fine and stable ☠️ shut up
@SoulessICE
@SoulessICE Жыл бұрын
I feel so horrible. I physically revolted, this community is so disgusting and because I couldn't see why he was doing such things and I blindly took there side. but i really hope he gets better and cloog actually apologizes.
@b.bird.
@b.bird. Жыл бұрын
Cloog, like other Leafy clones, unfortunately won't apologize. He didn't apologize for harassing one minor for years, why would he suddenly feel bad for traumatizing another one?
@ChillinLikeAVillain-k4q
@ChillinLikeAVillain-k4q Жыл бұрын
That's the art community for ya. A fucking pack hyenas
@bobtheball5384
@bobtheball5384 Жыл бұрын
Cloog should probably be doing a lot more things than just apologizing. He should know better at this age.
@ding0dkikl_
@ding0dkikl_ Жыл бұрын
cloog didn't do nothing free my man cloog
@Democracyofficer22
@Democracyofficer22 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who makes sense
@angelic_writer
@angelic_writer Жыл бұрын
I legitimately searched up Robin/Elliot earlier today, just morbid curiosity of where he's at now. Of course your search results are abundant amounts of videos about Elliot being called out for everything he's been accused of. In the end, I didn't get the results I wanted. But I'm happy to see your upload after an eternity later lol. Seriously though, hope things have been going alright for you. Good to see you're back. Hope we'll see more of your content soon. Just take your time if necessary.
@shadaneanimates
@shadaneanimates Жыл бұрын
Personal nitpick but animals aren't things, they're living organisms, and killing animations aren't satire, it's considered a death threat. But joking about one's self deletion attempt because of the harassment his fans caused really sickens me as someone who attempted self deletion, believing the world would be better off without me and getting mocked and called a "faker". Although I have to disagree with Graffiti at 31:03. This might be a bit long, but the ageist stereotype that all kids are unintelligent is pretty harmful and partly the reason why they're not taken seriously and treated, well, like this. I know from experience because I, and a lot of people who used to be kids back then were treated like they have no right to speak on their own allegations or drama, that they'll never change if they mess up, and that they're subhuman just because they're young, and because "all kids are dumb, so it's okay to mistreat them!" And not only did I begin to question my own intelligence and didn't believe people that told me I was smart because the stereotype says no children are ever smart, it's partly why I decided "if I won't be treated as a human, then I won't be human", and became more animal-like than a person as a response, and now I can't change that (nor want to) because I feel comfortable that way. And child prodigies such as Mozart, Blaise Pascal, and Stevie Wonder to name a few prove that stereotype wrong, they were smarter than the average kid. We have to break this cycle because it not only makes children feel self conscious over something they can't change, their age in this case, it can make them think more negatively and less rationally, and it's essentially dooming them to live up to that stereotype. Developing brains ≠ lack of intelligence. Finally, it doesn't matter if a cat isn't human, a life is a life, period. Using the "cats aren't human" argument and justifying killing them with slaughter of livestock and pet animals in other cultures implies that Elliot gives no value to animal lives, and that's cruel. Even if it weren't, humans are biologically animals themselves, so do their lives matter? As the saying goes, "the belief that some lives are less important than others is the root of everything wrong with this world." I don't hate Elliot, but if those are his views on animal life, then I worry about his bunny. He should adopt them out if he doesn't want to take care of the animal anyway. He could probably benefit from therapy.
@shadaneanimates
@shadaneanimates Жыл бұрын
Also if my comment offends anyone, I'll delete it. I just wanted to get that out there.
@PuppyRia
@PuppyRia Жыл бұрын
@@shadaneanimates I don't think you should delete your comment at all, you have a right to give your opinions :)👍
@shadaneanimates
@shadaneanimates Жыл бұрын
@@PuppyRia I suppose you're right. I just worried that some folks would take it the wrong way and assume I'm defending this or that behavior which I don't intend.
@Neko_ollie
@Neko_ollie Жыл бұрын
@@shadaneanimates no ur right and honestly i dislike cloog the whole time he harrassed ppl . . .
@shadaneanimates
@shadaneanimates Жыл бұрын
@@Neko_ollie Yeah, what he did definitely wasn't okay, and if I recall correctly, isn't an adult cyberbullying a minor legally considered a form of child @buse? (I hate having to censor things.) I really hope he apologized.
@Yayyayaya656
@Yayyayaya656 11 ай бұрын
cloog is disgusting for acting this way to someone who is literally 12 years old and hes a fully grown man, just wait till he gets exposed and then he'll be sorry, not for doing what he did, but for getting caught, tysm for calling this out
@TrashyPeachy_
@TrashyPeachy_ 6 ай бұрын
He got exposed for grooming many minors 🗿
@zaliphon
@zaliphon Жыл бұрын
This is late and is gonna get buried, but yeah. I was there for the streams and a good lot of it, I remember the first video they made on cloog, and this video sums up how I felt through alot of it. I just didnt understand why people didn’t see a clear issue with the drama and how people were treated it, im glad to hear Elliott is doing better
@S0larrhasbitches
@S0larrhasbitches Жыл бұрын
They are? Thank god!
@nythinatall
@nythinatall Жыл бұрын
this video was honestly so... i want to say enjoyable? enlightening? im not sure about the word, but it was definitely a good watch. one that i think i needed, because i've thought very similarly about the drama for so long. it's been ages since i've thought about everything. i was one of robin's older fans, around at the time before the drama even started, when his original channel was still up. when all of this stuff started, i was honestly so mad at everyone against robin, and incredibly worried when i thought that they'd passed away. i was more than relieved to know they were alive. but later on, during the whole fake-brother fiasco, the fact that he'd lied about his repeated s*icide attempt like this really upset me. i think i speak for a lot of people from back then that i felt betrayed. this person, who i'd trusted for so long, faking their own death and being undeniably awful about everything? it seemed like a stab to the gut at the time. so i ended up on the other side of the drama. not directly harassing them, but rather agreeing with all the harsh takes calling robin out. as this drama continued, things seemed to be getting worse-- robin was getting themselves into worse situations, and people were firing back so harshly. even then, as someone thoroughly upset by robin's actions, i thought it was really awful that robin was getting harassed and attacked like this. but im ashamed to say that i remained stubborn in my choice to be against them without fully considering their side. i'm honestly glad that he took the time to leave the internet, or at least his main user. it wasnt good for him or anyone else. and i'm glad to have seen this video so that i can look back and establish a clearer, more fair view on this whole situation. i really do hope he's doing better now-- nobody deserved to go through all of that, especially not a child who was not mentally well enough to process all the harassment and drama healthily. thank you, streamline, for making this video! it's nice to finally see a summary and commentary on this situation that stands reasonably and calmly. sorry for the long comment, i have a lot of feelings about this drama and i'm just glad to see this video ^^
@octo_general5086
@octo_general5086 Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who has BPD, and he also have intense intrusive thoughts. People using his intrusive thoughts, as an excuse to say Robin is a bad person, and a animal abus3r is absolutely horrible. Ofc I am not excusing the rest of It's(?) behavior, No one should ever do what they did, but shining light onto a trait it physically can't just *stop* is fucked up. This friend of mine intrusively punches me, and to people who don't know us would think "Wow that guy isn't a good friend" but if you knew what was really going on you would know he wouldn't be able to just tell it to stop. This goes the same for Robin. No minor, especially one who is what? 12 at the start of all of this? They shouldn't have ever had to go through such horrible experiences, the trauma they already had, topped with all of this drama, and hate, and threats, isn't healthy for them, or the people pushing it. I saw a comment somewhere, of Robins partner saying he is doing better now, and I am so glad to hear that. Again, I won't excuse anything that they did, because you could never dismiss behavior like that, and I am glad Robin didn't just do it then try to act innocent, I genuinely think he meant it when he said he wasn't trying to victim himself because of his bpd, but was just stating it, because it has it's own huge factor to the situation. I don't really know why I am typing all of this, I do know that stuff like this involving a minor always gets me so wild up. It's frustrating, because though you can see a perspective of what is happening as a bystander, and you can hear all of what's going on because of videos about this topic. But no one will ever *truly* understand what is going on, on the inside of Robins head, you can't just psyche-analyze his brain, and thought process, and even if you could, would that fix the situation? probably not. It sucks, cuz even though this is the first video I have watched on this topic, I can just feel it in my bones that someone said they were victimizing himself by saying he had bpd. Sorry for typing this Streamline, you probably don't want something like this in your comments, I just wanted to speak my mind, and type the thoughts I had during the video. ((btw it was really good and informed loved it!!
@aprilrain5553
@aprilrain5553 Жыл бұрын
I still don’t forgive Elliot for the suicide and self harm streams, I get so worked up and scared when I think of those. But what in Drama Dog’s mind thought it would be a good idea in the seven rings of hell to DOXX someone???
@milesbyt
@milesbyt Жыл бұрын
Shut up with how you don't forgive them for trying to committing fucking suicide
@gem_b7798
@gem_b7798 Жыл бұрын
My working theory is dd is stupid
@lordnheaven
@lordnheaven Жыл бұрын
Whole situation, sad as hell, for every party involved. also, I am so tired of the demonization of "attention seeking;" Don't get me wrong, posting SH is deplorable, but it's also a cry for help. it's crazy to me how many people don't look into why someone would do that and just chalk it up to "attention seeking"
@aliteralblueberry7837
@aliteralblueberry7837 Жыл бұрын
This is why I’m scared of minors becoming popular on social media
@Ayoitsjeremy
@Ayoitsjeremy Жыл бұрын
Where were you when the fangirl apocalypse happened that dhit was wild..
@aliteralblueberry7837
@aliteralblueberry7837 Жыл бұрын
@@Ayoitsjeremy Everywhere. It was like seeing the child verison of ww3
@ding0dkikl_
@ding0dkikl_ Жыл бұрын
minors shouldn't be on here period, it's stupid for the internet to accommodate for them not kick them out
@gem_b7798
@gem_b7798 Жыл бұрын
@@ding0dkikl_ You all realize youtube is a 13+ site right? minors are allowed on here. How about instead of banning people because of something they can not change, we ban adults like cloog for bullying minors? i am tired of all of the victim blaming just because the victim was a child, and with how useful the internet is, banning all minors would lead to them failing in school even repeating grades because textbooks are outdated as f
@ding0dkikl_
@ding0dkikl_ Жыл бұрын
@@gem_b7798 it's the child(and the parents) having access and being dumb. and failing school, really? the textbooks are fine, you are literally just coping and grasping for straws. the internet needs to adapt to keep children out instead, so this doesn't happen again. it is not my or cloog's fault for a butthurt child,and this will promote more bad behavior in the future. if you reward this and let kids get away with everything it would turn into chaos. are you a minor? since you are defending this way too much.
@mooneatsworms
@mooneatsworms Жыл бұрын
this situation was fumbled so hard omfg 😭😭
@wxlcoming_crew
@wxlcoming_crew Жыл бұрын
hey bud!! im actually the creator of the chibi in your thumbnail. i no longer associate with the animation meme community or art commentary community, so please, if you see this please remove my artwork or add credit. Like said, I am no longer involved and this situation makes me very uncomfortable! Thanks so much - Asher
@skelecatt
@skelecatt Жыл бұрын
ive been there since the start, and honestly, im glad that hes getting better. i don't support his past actions, but its just annoying when people lie about him and stuff, like 'ohh hes still harassing people'
@hornetsH
@hornetsH Жыл бұрын
havn't finished the video yet but wow this situation is horrible, situations like this make me wish the internet was 16+ so kids wouldn't have to be dragged into this sort of stuff. i hope everyone involved is doing better now. (also can i just say your character stills (is that the right word?) look really nice? i love the way you shaded the hair, it makes it look super shiny :) )
@gem_b7798
@gem_b7798 Жыл бұрын
I was 13 when i join internet though, and i needed it for school work because even my school know houw outdated text books are. if all kids that young are banned from internet, countless kids will fail school and repeat grades.
@Lio_Convoy
@Lio_Convoy Жыл бұрын
I’m only a few minutes in the video, but I’m also at work and don’t want to forget to ask this if it’s not answered in the video itself, but…… …..there’s a literal child that people are claiming both faked attempts as well as abused their animals. So why wasn’t step one for someone to contact the parents?
@b.bird.
@b.bird. Жыл бұрын
That would require giving a damn about the kid in the first place. The majority of people only follow these situations for the thrill of drama, that's why literally everyone forgot about Phantom Graffiti in a few weeks, to chase the next "big bad"
@Lio_Convoy
@Lio_Convoy Жыл бұрын
@@b.bird. Well, I’d say I’m angry over that now. But I was angry to begin with.
@b.bird.
@b.bird. Жыл бұрын
@@Lio_Convoy Wish someone would research this Kloog guy, I've seen several comments here from alleged grooming victims
@Lio_Convoy
@Lio_Convoy Жыл бұрын
@@b.bird. If I ever get some free time, I might
@DarkShadliy
@DarkShadliy Жыл бұрын
The parents were aware of robins actions, and didn't care according to what robin claimed at that time. Editing this because i remembered something, i believe robin claimed his parents sent him to a mental hospital, people were lead to believe it was fake while others believed it wasn't.
@George.lovesseals
@George.lovesseals Жыл бұрын
"You all thought i was dead didn't you?" YESS I DID
@DivineTerrors
@DivineTerrors Жыл бұрын
oh my god i literally looked at your channel yesterday and wondered if you'd ever post again T_T good timing also this drama really messed with me, i very recently had a blackout where i took way too many pills and ended up feeling awful and sick and the fact people are acting like stuff like this is "funny" or "fake" is disgusting.
@mvkoto_nvegi
@mvkoto_nvegi Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you're back, hope you've been taking care of yourself
@SPARKRIZZLE
@SPARKRIZZLE Жыл бұрын
i remember watching this whole thing go down day by day and interacting with it. really was crazy
@SPARKRIZZLE
@SPARKRIZZLE Жыл бұрын
i don’t fully forgive him for some of the things he did, but that’s also not my place to forgive him. i’m just glad he left and got help, i hope he’s doing better now
@lazer_kat_4673
@lazer_kat_4673 Жыл бұрын
Sammmee. I found robin around early-mid 2021 (when they still had "she/her, 12" in their bio for context) and started watching their videos religiously. I was tracking the happy fucking new years thing for the whole morning of that day, and i would even say i was one of the loudest commenters telling him not to do anything. Seeing all these new videos coming out about it is such a weird expeirience
@8000_Ribbon
@8000_Ribbon Жыл бұрын
Same. I silently watched the whole thing unfold the day it started. I only remember ever interacting with people when he was pretending to be it's brother and I stayed up late very worried. And when someone was theorizing that domino dot was drama dog.
@dipleripleeriple
@dipleripleeriple Жыл бұрын
@@8000_Ribbon Same, I watched the entire thing unfold and im mad at myself for even interacting with the drama as I think I should have been more understanding and less harsh, but the entire thing was really stressful to me, I remember seeing them break down on their channel and it was genuinely scary
@8000_Ribbon
@8000_Ribbon Жыл бұрын
@@dipleripleeriple yeah, I was mostly silent but I used watch their content and seeing how many times they hurt themselves was so distressing, I hope everyone involved has gotten better, because seeing how young most people that were involved in this is so worrying I remember what I commented now, it was when they said they were their brother and they started saying slurs and stuff, I remember saying that if their sibling had attempted they shouldn't mess around with the channel as it could be investigated by the police to investigate the causes and they could be possibly tampering with evidence.
@SamTheSansFangirl
@SamTheSansFangirl Жыл бұрын
Hello steam! Its really nice to have you back, honestly thought EVERYONE forgot about Eliot. Glad your talking about him!
@smorphous8928
@smorphous8928 7 ай бұрын
This is like putting a match over a bucket of gasoline, it gets bigger and bigger until it’s completely uncontrollable.
@dimitridionysus
@dimitridionysus Жыл бұрын
i’m not that far in the video;; but i’m glad it addresses both ends (or what i’m assuming from the intro) i was on more of the critique side of the drama, and i’m not throwing anyone under the bus but it seemed like people were so quick to jump on elliott through every little thing. though i do feel like he’s done some pretty inexcusable stuff; what the commentary and drama community did to him was essentially overlooked
@acidgutz.2088
@acidgutz.2088 Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOOODDD WHEN I WAS 8. DEADASS 8. I WAS APART OF THE MAJOR CLOOG SHIT WHAT STOP NO
@acidgutz.2088
@acidgutz.2088 Жыл бұрын
I WAS GOOD FRIENDS WITH SOPH , MAJOR CLOOG BULLIED ME INTO THE GROUND BRO
@Ratillabeans
@Ratillabeans Жыл бұрын
i remember i was one of their very first fans, i subbed to them when they had like 100 subs it was so sad to see their downfall
@JUSTANOREO555
@JUSTANOREO555 Жыл бұрын
What Happened to Streamline Workshop? Streamline: I'm back for that December Ad Revenue Baby!!!
@loafisnot-here
@loafisnot-here Жыл бұрын
"What happened to robin" NO WTF HAPPENED TO YOU!!!!
@robiedraws
@robiedraws Жыл бұрын
your new sprites look so nice wtf i love them
@WaterDorito13
@WaterDorito13 Жыл бұрын
Guys Stream remembered her KZbin password hell yeah!
@robiedraws
@robiedraws Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD YOUR BACK HII
@calliemari
@calliemari Жыл бұрын
I contemplated making a big ol comment about this, but I guess I might as well rip off the bandaid and reveal myself. I'm etherealAngora, aka Moth, now known as Callie. I was Elliotts best friend for a time, and it was.... certainly something. I tolerated all of his behaviors, even when I knew it was wrong. Even when I knew what he was doing was terrible, I stuck by him. I was loyal like that. In all honestly, I had an extreme attachment to him. I wanted to help him. Help him become a better person, and I truly believed he could be that better person if he just tried and if he just had someone on his side. But, at the time, he didn't *want* to be that better person. And I think I knew that deep down, and I just didn't want to admit it. Eventually, after all the things he did and things he personally put me through, I had enough and snapped. Surprisingly, that thing ended up being Bojack Horseman?? Yeah I don't know how the hell that happened either. But, I guess it was the straw that broke the camels back, because after that I was done. And even when I turned against him, I regretted it. I felt horrible for it everyday, because I felt like I was abandoning him. I felt like I was a bad friend for leaving him, when I thought I could help him. Even today, a part of me still misses him. I loved him (as a friend, of course). I did end up realizing that the friendship was toxic on not just his end, but mine as well. I guess I had a sort of... savior complex with him? I truly did want to help him, but he didn't want to help himself. I read Kaspers comment, Elliotts partner. And it seems Elliott is getting better. I'm genuinely so proud and happy that he is. It took a while to get here, but he did. And I couldn't be more proud. Looking back, I regret being his friend. Really. I regret how I acted and how I tolerated everything he did. I regret everything. Well... maybe not everything, because from all the bad that happened, some really good things came out of it. I met my best friends through the situation, and I love them all dearly. I've abandoned the name "Moth". I've abandoned the name "etherealAngora" to represent everything about me. I'm leaving behind that portion of my past, and looking to a better future. I have better friends, some old and some new. I'm looking to revamp my channel, maybe start looking into doing commentary. I'm sorry to everyone I may have hurt from my time as Elliotts friend. And Eli, if you see this, I'm sorry. I really, truly am sorry. And I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud that you're doing better. Keep it up. That's all from me, thank you Streamline for making this video. -Callie (he/him)
@calliemari
@calliemari Жыл бұрын
@Robs WHERRE THE HELL DIXD YOU COME FROM YOU SCAFED THE CRAP OUT OF ME RHQWA TYHRQWUDFHSDJUDFHASJ ANDX YES I DID. I WAS DUMB,. VERY DUMB. YOU LKNOW THIS ABOUT ME ALREADY
@calliemari
@calliemari Жыл бұрын
@Robs the way i srs screamed when you replied 😭jumpscared me bro /pos
@ofsomeimportance
@ofsomeimportance 10 ай бұрын
The fact that major cloog’s comments are so childish and immature is the icing on this horrible cake. The way he acts like a little kid, spamming emojis and acting all edgy is so stupid. He even summons Chica from FNAF in order to “murder” Robin. It’s extremely immature.
@Stavv_
@Stavv_ Жыл бұрын
A legend is back, also happy new year! I remember this situation, a total mess, I wish this kid is ok!
@cloudyyskie-p
@cloudyyskie-p Жыл бұрын
oh gosh. i was a pretty big fan of robin's at the end of 2021. i watched a lot of their videos while i was drawing and to pass the time, and i honestly enjoyed it. because they were my age and stuff, i related on a better level i guess. i made a (now unlisted) video about this situation back in january right after the "happy f*cking new year" video was posted. i took screenshots of everything (minus the actual video bit, because why would i have/keep screenshots of that) and defended them not because of the way they were acting, but because of the batshit ways people were treating them. i got a lot of people backing me up, even though i was relatively uninformed about the situation. on an emotional level, people got it. robin even commented on my video thanking me, shared it on their community tab and stuff too. however, i got a lot of threats, like r*pe threats and stuff from people who i guess just really hated them. i don't know. i later took down the video after i found out some of the other stuff that was happening and decided i didn't want to be involved anymore. thanks for making this video stream, and welcome back.
@Cherub_Library
@Cherub_Library 11 ай бұрын
As someone who struggles with intrusive thoughts and a mix of different mental illnesses, the way people responded to the rabbit thing is really upsetting. Yes, it was absolutely right to be concerned about the rabbit, but demonizing Robin for having intrusive thoughts is fucking disgusting. I don't get intrusive thoughts about harming other people, but I know what its like to have intense intrusive thoughts about harming yourself. WE CAN'T STOP IT. It is a person's choice whether or not they _act_ on their intrusive thoughts, but intrusive thoughts can't just be turned off. They are persistent, unwanted thoughts and they are extremely distressing. As bad as they worded it, I think I know what Robin meant when they said they "craved" violence. When my intrusive thoughts get especially bad, I feel this sort of..."rush" of anticipation at the thought of hurting myself. I don't _want_ to hurt myself, and yet I feel this twisted sense of excitement at the thought of it and I hate it. No child should have to know what its like to not be able to trust your own thoughts. Calling Robin a horrible person because they were struggling with violent, intrusive thoughts is like telling a suicidal individual that they're selfish for not thinking about how attempting would affect the people around them. Yes, people around Robin could get hurt if those thoughts are not managed in a healthy way, and hurting their rabbit was not okay even if they were in the middle of a panic attack, but they already felt horrible about it and knew it was bad. Making them out to be a sadistic animal abuser was not helping anyone. I hurt for the both of them. I couldn't imagine dealing with these thoughts back when I was twelve.
@FunyunRob
@FunyunRob 10 ай бұрын
I’ve never understood what cloogs channel was about until this. I’ve always thought his channel was weird but his animations were pretty good
@Youdontneedtoknow_-00
@Youdontneedtoknow_-00 Жыл бұрын
I watched this drama unfold in person. It was insane
@SyzygySomnia
@SyzygySomnia 3 ай бұрын
7:58 well that didn’t age so well, did it?
@22darkman
@22darkman Ай бұрын
Yup 💀
@RoyalSniz
@RoyalSniz Жыл бұрын
As a technical stranger looking in, while I understand many of the people within this drama where pretty rude and dismissive themselves- as someone who had gone through a similar drama with a kid and a adult (at the same time) I don't think I would ever be able to forgive someone like Robin for their actions and feel as if some of these peopel do have every right to be upset even if I don't agree with how they portrayed their anger. TW: SA, bigotry mention, harm Because to conclude Robin's actions they threatened to kill others, threatened SA, incestuous SA, threw an an animal, allegedly killed an animal, threatened to harm themselves, did harm themselves, harmed themselves publicly for others to see and gain their own trauma from the experience, they pretended to be another person and lied to multiple ppl on multiple occasions, allegedly made racist and sexist remarks, and so on and so forth. Just in general what they've done is honestly unforgivable no matter their age and I really hope they just stay away from the internet AT LEAST till they're well into adulthood or something like this will happen all over again.
@werewolfpoison
@werewolfpoison Жыл бұрын
I watched a lot of this situation in real time but man I never knew the full story. Hell you may even saw a few comments from me lol. I even watched the interview stream real time and saw the self harm video. I feel for Robin, he def fucked up in places but he is a kid at the end of the day and I really do hope he's getting the help he needs because I would never wish the shit he went through onto any kid. Again not justifying his actions, but he def is a kid and I hope he will be ok
@ghostlytavern129
@ghostlytavern129 Жыл бұрын
I’m 19 and honestly I feel bad for Robin, they’re a child who needs help not to be held to the standards of an adult they’re brain is not fully developed. I might just be extra empathetic to the kid but I feel like he needed to go to a mental hospital if you don’t like what someone’s doing you don’t need to pay attention to them. You don’t need to even watch these livestreams if you think they want attention than don’t give them that attention let him do what he wants. I don’t know I have bills to pay
@talaedgefangstudios9524
@talaedgefangstudios9524 Жыл бұрын
When the world needed her most, she returned
@TrashyPeachy_
@TrashyPeachy_ Жыл бұрын
She came back when the world need her the most 😍
@lev1athvn
@lev1athvn Жыл бұрын
Just for clarification; the first “rant” on Elliot was uploaded by a user named Jozzi, who, up to this date, has unlisted both of his videos about him. Jozzi used to be heavily involved in Cloog’s community, and hence, his video was what inspired Cloog to make his own. Jozzi’s community is also MUCH less moderated than Cloog’s, and therefore, it was mostly Jozzi’s community that would spread around the New Year’s video of Elliot doing s/h. I believe that this is a very important part of the timeline, so I just wanted to add in this correction. Other than that, I believe this video handled the entirety of the events that played out very well. I hope Elliot is doing well and has been able to recover from everything. Being attacked from a large audience, including one surrounding a literal ADULT, is so much for someone of his age to have had to go through.
@offensivent
@offensivent Жыл бұрын
Hiii !! I've followed Elliot for a loong time and I remember LOTS of the videos. What I'm saying is not gonna be evidence it's just me as a witness repeating what I remember what happened. 16:51 He was confronted by someone who made allegations, if I remember correctly from his video I was there when Soph made the comment, of her disappointment she was replying to questions and such. I can confirm that people did say to Eli to unalive themselves during the livestream. It was disgusting. I don't have many comments, and I'm surprised you didn't mention his new account on yt (got deleted later on anyways) and his "dumbest creator tries to cancel another dumbass creator." But you did an amazing job making a timeline! I hope you take a rest after a new video ^^
@DarkShadliy
@DarkShadliy Жыл бұрын
While robin wasn't the best person back then and made some mistakes, i will say everything involving this situation was a mess, and everyone was also in the wrong, people need to learn to see the cracks hiding within a person, in other words people need to see multiple point of views of each side before jumping the gun on something! It gets really annoying when people don't view thing's as a whole and just see something they want to see, instead of seeing a bit deeper into someone to find the actual truth, yes some make mistakes, some can grow from it, nobody has to forgive each other, but people need to learn to stay neutral until they are 100% sure of what's going on.
@Moony_cakes
@Moony_cakes 4 ай бұрын
Hah! This aged well 7:57
@Gabetheskeleton
@Gabetheskeleton Жыл бұрын
0:19 mom look I'm famous! Honestly thought you forgot about making this video but I'm glad you made it, it explains things well (I'm also glad my shit videos didn't make it in here lol) I still don't support all the things Elliott has done but I do hope they are getting help and last I've heard anything about them they've deleted their public Instagram so I hope they stay off until they are ready to be public again
@K3NNYR4CC00N
@K3NNYR4CC00N Жыл бұрын
I forgot this whole situation existed despite me followin it from the start till the end
@Z_Xvv
@Z_Xvv Жыл бұрын
And this is why parents shouldn't let certain kids have access to the internet freely...
@sebastianlegacy
@sebastianlegacy Жыл бұрын
fun fact: i actually talked with robin every now and then and actually got to know robin more at a personal level.
@Kagamine-Mirrat
@Kagamine-Mirrat Жыл бұрын
I get it intrusive thoughts are the worst, especially if you have maladaptive dreaming disorder and OCD… it’s crazy out here stay safe.
@NobleCloverVA
@NobleCloverVA Жыл бұрын
Hey, I think for the disclaimer, you can change "suicide baiting" to "threatening suicide". Suicide baiting is defined as "the act of pushing someone to suicide". Just some constructive criticism.
@alieneko_nyo
@alieneko_nyo Жыл бұрын
I throught suicide baiting was "someone who uses a fake suicide attempt to manipulate someone else into doing something they want"?
@NobleCloverVA
@NobleCloverVA Жыл бұрын
@@alieneko_nyo No, I looked it up and it's defined as I had stated above. Even Hopeless Peaches, who was wrongfully called a suicide baiter by Prison Mate Luke, stated that he used the term wrong and gave the correct definition.
@alieneko_nyo
@alieneko_nyo Жыл бұрын
@@NobleCloverVA dang, these people love to spread misinfo
@gem_b7798
@gem_b7798 Жыл бұрын
@@alieneko_nyothat is what this so called "community" does
@styaurniaekitzari
@styaurniaekitzari Жыл бұрын
I am one of the people who was involved but I do hope that robin recover That drama is mind blogging to me thanks for properly cover this it’s a confusing for me to pick sides lol 😅
@leftsharkc
@leftsharkc Жыл бұрын
The absolute excitement I just got seeing you've finally posted
@clarissejunqueira1994
@clarissejunqueira1994 Жыл бұрын
this happened this year?... wow... it sounds like early 2012 for the way people scream and say that mental health isn't real
@PupkinPumpkin
@PupkinPumpkin Жыл бұрын
Robin has done and said some messed up things, but I still want them to improve as a person and have a better life. I hope the best for them.
@ghostie_child1350
@ghostie_child1350 Жыл бұрын
32:59 I have to say, Robin/Graffiti is extremely well-spoken during this part. They are doing their best to give a reason behind their actions, at least that's how i see it.
@ponikoTV
@ponikoTV Жыл бұрын
Although I'm not going to apologize for the things he did, I'm glad he's getting help.
@preciousnaiomiilagan3791
@preciousnaiomiilagan3791 Жыл бұрын
She's finally alive hope you had been taking care of yourself
@nylogutz_
@nylogutz_ Жыл бұрын
WOOOO stream's back!! hope you're doing well!
@TDisHere
@TDisHere Жыл бұрын
Okay this is my second comment from this and hopefully this will bring some explanation to Domino a little bit. Please note I wasn't gonna bring this up as not to upset myself because, the situation did hurt me and while I'm over it it stills makes me uncomfortable to talk about now I've sat down and reflected. However I wanna bring it up for some clarifications and my story. Just to clarify I'm a ex friend of Dom and was friends with them during the drama and was there during the final time them and Elliot were beefing (Yes they are beefing more than once) If you were there you probably saw me in their comments alot . The only explanation I have on where Dom could be offline getting mental help. Before I cut myself from Dom one night we were going back and forth on their recent action bothering Elliot and they were apologizing to me. I was explaining to them that they should be a bigger person in the situation and a few days after I cut them off after I expressed in the comments I no longer want nothing to do with them the channel disappeared. I haven't seen them since. I hope our falling out didn't hurt them that hard as at the time their friends were dropping like flies. I just had to let them go not for my sake but, for them to see they need help and see how drama can also cause the friends around you stress too. Dom was absolutely a victim of Elliot but, sometimes Dom wasn't an angel either which made me cut ties. Elliot I was also a victim of Elliot too. During another meltdown video on a second channel he strangely made he was expressing anger on how his abusers got away and that at the end of the video he told everyone to end themselves. I made a comment expressing how it wasn't a good idea and he proceeded to tell me to go end mine. The screenshots are in Goatcatto's second video I took but, I wanna make nite he apologized to me about it and I'm bringing it up to show that while Elliot hurt me it doesn't mean I don't want him to get better. So many people think that just because, he inflicted pain on others you don't do it back because, that causes more flames to the situation and it won't fix anything. As for Drama Dogg again I mentioned before do NOT trust her. She's doxxed and harassed Elliot and hasn't made the situation better and I advise everyone to be aware of her. She's not good and she won't listen to reasons for her actions.
@Whatisthisgremlin
@Whatisthisgremlin Жыл бұрын
Hope cloog gets cancelled. Bro is harassing lil kids as a grown man
@skeletor-1892
@skeletor-1892 11 ай бұрын
Still hasnt happened
@hopefullamb
@hopefullamb 11 ай бұрын
hes not gonna get cancelled because he doesn’t gaf ☠️ ur dumb
@sniffxy
@sniffxy 4 ай бұрын
​@@hopefullamb well well well guess who got cancelled
@BETAtheBETA
@BETAtheBETA Жыл бұрын
About Cloog saying all the mean stuff about Robin's Attemped suicide I believe he was trying to not break the act of his persona since he's suppose to be the "Haha, funny goofy ahh" person. And about the drama, I was at the beginning of it (I was a fan of Robin)and at the end of and it is the most messy drama I've seen.
@Wroar2020s
@Wroar2020s Жыл бұрын
Don't care... Maggot clog needs to be stearilized and put into slave labor for all of his warcrimes
@S0larrhasbitches
@S0larrhasbitches Жыл бұрын
@@Wroar2020swoah there. That’s going a little far
@Wroar2020s
@Wroar2020s Жыл бұрын
@@S0larrhasbitches Yeah.. Because it's unrealistic and it won't happen.. But I would love to see him suffer from karma someday for his war crimes against humanity.
@confetticatnip
@confetticatnip Жыл бұрын
how the fuck did i COMPLETELY miss this drama what
@SophTheNeko
@SophTheNeko Жыл бұрын
EDIT 2: 25:23 UMMMM ok so you blurred out the victim in questions name and replaced it with "hallee" but it wasn't hallee it was a difference person entirely, just letting u know qwp EDIT 1: just to clarify, I didn't help Robin fake screenshots. I did not contribute to it. I simply suppressed my anger out of care for Robin./nm HEYO YESSS I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO Tysm for being so open minded. I care for Robin a lot and I really am grateful you took it apon yourself to handle this with care and mindfully 💜💜💜 Robins heart was always in the right place. If he was an apathetic cruel person he wouldn't have even tried to defend me. Obviously that isn't an "excuse" but like BRUH 💀 he's not a bad person Ty also for listening to my side and not assuming the worst out of me like others did just because I'm a "furf!g" LOLOL- I appreciate it Thank u so much this was so satisfying to listen to oh my god the amount of stupidity out on social media regarding this situation hurts my brain 💀
@littlemuffin880
@littlemuffin880 Жыл бұрын
Birjdhrhr i hope streamline pins your comment hdjdndndn
@Waspadox
@Waspadox Жыл бұрын
0:25 wow this comment aged poorly I have a completely different view on the situation now., and i honestly feel bad for robin dispite what it's done. I feel like a lot OF what it's done was based on pressure coming from the community around them, starting from "prove the screenshots are real!", and just further pressuring them as they went down a downward spiral., (intentionally or not) starting when ponder sprocket made a tweet about them, pressuring them to get better evidence, and ending as robin completely deleted their channel and changed their name more than once to get the community off their back. I believe that video, (the one with my comment) wasn't really about the situation itself, from what i remember was just talking about how Robin was an awful friend behind closed doors or whatever.,(i have an awful memory) But Either way its an old comment that i dont agree with anymore so ill be taking it down But yeah thats all ive gotta say.
@kentarom2de945
@kentarom2de945 6 ай бұрын
And just to make the comment aged more poorly. Do you know what happened to Cloog nowadays? Edit: I could be mistaken if your comment was from Cloog's video or someone else's video.
@ei919
@ei919 Жыл бұрын
WELCOME BACK!! i thought you were gone for good 😭 love the new sprites!!
@squidthecolor
@squidthecolor Жыл бұрын
what the hell i was looking at your channel like YESTERDAY
@RattataPrincess2007
@RattataPrincess2007 Жыл бұрын
While I no longer support Elliott, I genuinely hope that he is doing better now. He already held himself accountable (though his actions aren't excusable), and didn't deserve all the harassment he got. Those who harassed him were also in the wrong, as you should never harass anyone (even if they are a horrible person). And I am very glad that Elliott is getting the help he needed and I am glad that he genuinely wants to be a better person.
@PaintSplashProductions
@PaintSplashProductions Жыл бұрын
Literally wasn't notified of your return, thanks KZbin
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