What Happened to Edens Zero?

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Shonen Ouji

Shonen Ouji

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@ShonenOuji
@ShonenOuji 6 ай бұрын
What do you think about the new chapters? How would you rate the anime?
@godcj969
@godcj969 6 ай бұрын
Anime terrible
@ShonenOuji
@ShonenOuji 6 ай бұрын
@@godcj969 What makes you say that?
@theguyfromtsukihime3898
@theguyfromtsukihime3898 6 ай бұрын
Anime is meh I feel like the only studio that could do mashimas art justice is ufoable or mappa as for the manga it feels like a story trying to speed run and slow burn getting to the end of the story by shortcutting alot of stuff that could've made the story feel as engaging as it used to be
@godcj969
@godcj969 6 ай бұрын
@@ShonenOuji first the did not show the scene where ziggy destroyed the planet or where xenolith stop the planet, joe vs shiki fight was mid, the censor a lot of things including James and elsie kiss and the space fights sucks. Everything that makes Eden’s zero unique frame other anime the fail on doing
@zigazdovc6175
@zigazdovc6175 6 ай бұрын
Universe Zero completely destroyed the story and made me drop the manga. Edens Zero is way worse the Fairy Tail in my opinion, because it is gaslighting you into believing this is a darker story, where decisions and death actually matter and happen, but in actuality it is the exact opposite. Nothing bad happening in 200 chapters mattered at all.
@JustsomeSpaceG1
@JustsomeSpaceG1 6 ай бұрын
One of the major problems with many people when it comes to criticizing Edens Zero is that they are impatient. They can't wait for certain plot elment to end, and resolve before they call it bad, or make a negative conclusion regarding them. And since they are already dead set on calling it bad, even when we found out it wasn't, they still gonna call it that.
@ShonenOuji
@ShonenOuji 6 ай бұрын
That was always one of my biggest problems with reactions to chapters in the community. People would be quick to call an arc trash or something poorly written. Just let him cook.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 6 ай бұрын
​@@ShonenOujiCook what? More pointless fanservice.
@申月営無営月無営有申
@申月営無営月無営有申 6 ай бұрын
EZ Has Fallen Big Time
@IceFox606
@IceFox606 6 ай бұрын
@@申月営無営月無営有申you’re proving the point being made here lol
@申月営無営月無営有申
@申月営無営月無営有申 6 ай бұрын
@@IceFox606 Not at all cause EZ has fallen off
@mattchen6137
@mattchen6137 5 ай бұрын
Just watched it on Netflix, loved this. Might just read a manga for the first time
@johnnykroecker954
@johnnykroecker954 4 ай бұрын
I’ve watched the second season on Crunchy roll and now I’m reading the Manga. It’s a first for me reading manga and I love it. I’m on volume 19 now.
@JacoB-wp4ws
@JacoB-wp4ws Ай бұрын
Manga medium is so great, despite its silent and still images, with sfx and character expresions and eye movement, i can create moving images and sound, its so cool
@S.lege7484
@S.lege7484 6 ай бұрын
I found this channel because of jjk now I'm addicted
@ShonenOuji
@ShonenOuji 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Honestly just made my day.
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
The core issue. The hype is dead with the fights. Mashima erased all the tension the moment he settled on a “no one dies” ending. This is the same flaw Kishimoto did with Kakashi. He was never going to die because he already died. Because of this we already know that the good guys will flawlessly win. Anything else is just padding out the story. With Fairy Tail at the very least people still died. There were lasting consequences. The only reason Jellal is protected is because he’s a popular character. Even Makarov was crippled. However Mashima made the same error with the gmg arc when he undid a lot of deaths. At the very least though there was still a consequence- Ultear. The fact that there is 0 consequences to anything is probably what killed Edens Zero. Yes. Rave had a deus ex machina ending but by then we werent aware it was possible because he went and killed off characters that still stayed dead. When you remove any sense of tension from lack of consequences or anything, it’s going to kill the story and hype. Telling Rebecca she can’t time jump isnt a threat because we already know she’s not going to need it. That’s not even mentioning that we’re not even 300 chapters and 235 of those chapters was scrapped. Meaning your final story takes place in a span of 70 chapters or so. Not even but still. It’s like watching Flashpoint paradox before the dcamu. It’s irrelevant. There is no point if the main story is now in an alternate timeline.
@jaymesmuir8828
@jaymesmuir8828 6 ай бұрын
Should've stopped with Rave Master tbh. Everything is just a worse rehash
@d2solo
@d2solo 6 ай бұрын
@@jaymesmuir8828delusional take
@MegaDman16
@MegaDman16 6 ай бұрын
​@@d2solo no he's right.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 6 ай бұрын
Only shitty villains(all of them) in Fairy Tail died. All of the heroes that weren't walking zombies or ghosts didn't die, and are living long lasting peaceful lives at the end of the series, minus Natsu, but that's the only good thing the series did.
@daligang1359
@daligang1359 6 ай бұрын
@@Dave102693wdym minus nastu?
@ArceusRules
@ArceusRules 6 ай бұрын
Always love your Edens zero vids. Amazing video. Can't wait for the next one
@partyjams
@partyjams 6 ай бұрын
I feel like the most recent fights have been rather unceremonious. Really does feel like the story is making a beeline for the end. Think this video did a good job explaining the trajectory of the story and the fanbase. There was a time when this series was one of my favorite weekly reads. Now I'm just here to see it wrap up. I like EZ but I don't think I can consider it a favorite anymore. Which is a shame but the good news is the series gave me a new found appreciation for Mashima
@ShonenOuji
@ShonenOuji 6 ай бұрын
I don’t know how I feel yet. I won’t know at least until the very end. When I think on it, I still love all the earlier stuff enough that I don’t mind some of the later problems as much. I think it went from like a top 20 to just one of my favorites.
@DodgeDemon-e8i
@DodgeDemon-e8i 26 күн бұрын
I love Eden Zero it’s truly remarkable
@what1fun1v3rs3
@what1fun1v3rs3 6 ай бұрын
wow distribution really hurt this series, I really hope this doesn't happen to other anime for streaming
@trentonrobertson449
@trentonrobertson449 5 ай бұрын
It's the same with all of Mashima's projects. They start really fun and fresh and hit their peak at about 1/3 through the story. It just drops off and i think it's be we lose the balance between character driven and story driven plots. It goes downhill because we only get more story revealed, not more depth to the characters. I'm enjoying his new series, Deadrock, and I'm hoping it breaks this tradition
@zeroxenoverse9251
@zeroxenoverse9251 3 ай бұрын
@@trentonrobertson449 Like every shonen do(Depending on the perspective).
@madhukarg8052
@madhukarg8052 6 ай бұрын
it can be saved, either connect it directly with fairy tail or Rave Master
@FierceDietyLink100
@FierceDietyLink100 6 ай бұрын
or both
@申月営無営月無営有申
@申月営無営月無営有申 6 ай бұрын
"Connect it to Fairy Tail" LMAOOOOOO
@xnortheast1106
@xnortheast1106 6 ай бұрын
​@@申月営無営月無営有申😂😂 tf is he on
@jj985955
@jj985955 6 ай бұрын
@@xnortheast1106 pure copium
@datruth1824
@datruth1824 6 ай бұрын
I enjoy it over all..my problem with Universe 0 is that the sies are just weak & they have been beaten kinda easily. Especially God Acnoella & Cure. I know they already been beat before but don't bring them back if u are just gonna rush their defeats. I'm probably gonna be pissed with the way lady Freyja was handed. She probably dead but I hope not. Homera is cool but she literally took down 2 sies members alone & that just don't sit well with me. I'm still invested because I believe some stakes will happen & I think Shiki will sacrifice himself to save everybody.
@ShonenOuji
@ShonenOuji 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. Like I said in the video, I’m not crazy about how those characters were handled.
@oreotaku4017
@oreotaku4017 6 ай бұрын
I feel the anime is ok. It’s on par with mid to late Fairy Tail. I think it’s biggest problem is censorship ecchi elements feel extra focused on which fine fair sex sells. But Mashima has always been drawing relatively bloody fights along his series. And he’s really been able to push his darker images when it comes to using sci-fi elements like robots as stand ins for images that could have been seen as extremely dark or even gory if they were flesh and blood people.
@OK-69420
@OK-69420 6 ай бұрын
question, do you think early FT was better than late FT?
@oreotaku4017
@oreotaku4017 6 ай бұрын
@@OK-69420 not really animation wise it clearly was made on a budget because FT didn’t get a huge fanbase till the anime came out. Once it had a sizable fanbase you can see the animation and visuals going up about halfway through the series. Then once they put the anime on hiatus and returned later they even gave it a face lift to better match the manga art style.
@isidorodaviddoro1920
@isidorodaviddoro1920 6 ай бұрын
Edens zero Animation is mediocre since it's full of static Animation during fights,JC staff needs to improve because they are Also Animating fairy tail the 100 year quedt
@aganbraganca4156
@aganbraganca4156 6 ай бұрын
@@OK-69420 it peaked in middle especially tenru island arc, grand magic games and tartoros arc. The final season was rushed and they ruined natsu END. but 100 year quest is really good
@farzalou2154
@farzalou2154 4 ай бұрын
Got to Edens Zero and took all the chapters in about 1 week. i must say its pretty hard to digest because you will be constantly in a state of 'that doesn't make sense' but if you tune in and keep reading, every piece to the puzzle come to make sense at one point or another. Really love it and its far better than Fairy Tail (my body is ready)
@DwillGame
@DwillGame 6 ай бұрын
I didn't even know there was a season 2
@kuratzk4492
@kuratzk4492 6 ай бұрын
i still have hopes that he sacrifes shiki for this story cause 2 of his mainchar from his mangas had already a happy end and it woud give the story a great impact.
@mangasystem7011
@mangasystem7011 6 ай бұрын
To be fair i only heard about really bad things about the last Arc orf Edens zero. I only have read the first few Chapters but still want to read the manga. I really like Mashimas Character Design and also had a lot of Fun with Fairy tail and Rave.
@joelcartagena953
@joelcartagena953 4 ай бұрын
Tell me, have you by any chance done a video involving the anime How Heavy Are The Dumbbells You Lift?
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 6 ай бұрын
The quality of a manga & it’s sales/popularity have nothing in common. Because this is much better than Fairy Tail & has nowhere near the sales. I love Edens Zero, it’s the one manga I wish more people would read. But for me I didn’t really start loving it till vol 10 on, vol 10-24 (where I’m currently up to, I just got vol 27 so I’ll be reading soon) are amazing.
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
Why. It’s a waste of time. 230 chapters of character deaths and stories that MEAN NOTHING. At least Ultear stayed dead. At least lahar died. At least everyone that freaking died kept some consequence to it
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
230 chapters just for the entire story can be restarted and save everyone. Screw hardships. Why didnt kishimoto bring neji back. Or Jiraiya. Screw their heartfelt endings right?
@Fuckyoutubecensorship1
@Fuckyoutubecensorship1 5 ай бұрын
​@@DarkEclipse23Jiraiya did come back his name is kashin Koji
@bluestar5thunderclan
@bluestar5thunderclan Ай бұрын
I loved Eden’s Zero even more than Fairy Tail so I hate that it doesn’t get the hype. I hope some day it gets the recognition it deserves!
@Osamaghassan050
@Osamaghassan050 22 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, my friend, I don't think so. هـ It has a great story in terms of plot and characters, frankly, and even the shocking events that you find in every chapter, but I see that people’s interest is focused only on the fighting, forgetting the plot and The important things that make a story perfect, it's really sad
@briandaleske5139
@briandaleske5139 6 ай бұрын
I guess it all depends on, new additions to the manga stories it, continue to get made.
@TheDarioushurt
@TheDarioushurt 6 ай бұрын
nothing go away
@OmniSlayer-
@OmniSlayer- 6 ай бұрын
So basically their was a licensing issue where crunchyroll bought the rights to it and forced season 2 to be a crunchyroll exclusive (a similar thing happened to JoJos Bizzare adventure stone ocean, still a top tier anime though)
@anon6181
@anon6181 6 ай бұрын
He's doing fairy tail 100 year quest at the same time
@emeraldace541
@emeraldace541 6 ай бұрын
Sometimes, if you reread the manga after it was done, the arcs won't seem as bad as you thought(im not saying that you would im just stating my opinion)
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
Why would you bother when you realize 235 chapters don’t fucking matter since everyone that dies is miraculously saved in a new timeline.
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
Because screw having hardships. Kishimoto is a loser then. He should have made it so that naruto and sasuke’s family got returned for good. Screw jiraiya dying and the impact he had lets bring back permanently.
@emeraldace541
@emeraldace541 6 ай бұрын
@DarkEclipse23 naruto came out of nowhere but good analogy
@malcolmriles9913
@malcolmriles9913 6 ай бұрын
🌌🤖Edens Zero🤖🌌is and will always be my main Special🔥Firedup🔥Youth-Childhood Weekly Shonen Magazine Series Family(s) that's close and have a special place in my heart no matter what people may think negatively or poor about it, I won't EZ is really important to me and I'll always support it Yo🙏💗😊💖😍💞
@maysen51
@maysen51 6 ай бұрын
Here’s what they could had did to make things interesting. When rebecca first used her powers we literally had to deal with ziggy. Now lets put that tension everytime she uses her powers to stop ppl from dying they end up dealing with something worse her powers can’t deal with. This would add tension and make the main characters think everything tho like getting more info on enemies speculating who they would have to deal with worse scenario should they use rebecca’s powers.
@narusas1222
@narusas1222 6 ай бұрын
Hermit and Weiss are my favorite characters in this show!
@RandomPerson-uw1oo
@RandomPerson-uw1oo Ай бұрын
It's crazy that the manga ended. With how it was going, it felt like it was going to be a long arc, cause of the how crew thing and whatnot like One Piece. I don't expect it to be as long as One Piece, nor Fairy Tail, but I was atleast expecting for Fairy Tail to end first though. So that's a shame, lol XD
@aka_nobodyy
@aka_nobodyy 4 ай бұрын
Universe Zero arc was where i lost a lot of emotional investment in the series. Not only did Mashima undo a major timeskip, something rare in his works (when it comes to affecting the MCs), it also undid a lot of the consequences of previous arcs and character deaths that happened OFF SCREEN BEFORE THE SERIES. Like there was zero reason to bring Valkyrie or Weiz's mom back. Valkyrie coming back sorta undermines Homura's arc of becoming the new sword of Eden's but then she got even less stuff to do. But, I waited, I thought "oh this was too good to be true. there's gotta be a twist right?" Well no twist came, it felt like more and more convivences kept popping up, villain redemptions NO ONE asked for and now we're at the end of the series and this Universe is just where we're at. Really sucks because Aoi War was great, and with Witch dying felt like there was real consequence to the story. I won't forget how hyped I was seeing an older Shiki and him be more mature. But then you can imagine how upset I was seeing that all go away. I still read it because I've kept up with the series since it first came out, and actually loved it up until Kaede War, for all the "why do you still read it" people out there.
@dogti2959
@dogti2959 5 ай бұрын
Well, I read Edens Zero since the first chapter and I never really stop, at least not because of the story. I love Mashima's work and sure, they're not perfect, but I lever got as disapointed as One Piece or Naruto. There is a reason I stop reading those two at some point, it was getting too bad. I don't know what it is about Mashima but his stories touch me on the emotional level like few before. Edens Zero is definitely one of my favorite series, up there with Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle, Pandora Hearts, Black Butler and D.Gray Man. I don't really care about fan service or fight, I'm here for the story and the twists. And Edens Zero delivers it. To me, a good plot twist or foreshadowing doesn't mean you have to understand it at the last second. I was sure, since the relics were introduced, about the true nature of Mother. Same with the time monster, I knew it was connected to Rebecca and I wish it'd be dark. I love how the time travel is used, I love that when characters die, it's permanent until you litterally go back in time or change universe. What happened with Drakhen Joe way back then traumatized me because it was unexpected. They lost and they paid the consequences for it. Sure, the story drags sometimes, villains aren't as good or developped as they might have been, but I accept it because there is so much more to enjoy about this series... Mashima's art is just wonderful, this man knows how to draw. All those people who say "he's lazy because he uses the same design as Fairy Tail" just don't know he's been doing it since Fairy Tail with Rave. And they are hypocrites because, let's be honest, if you can accept Toriyama making Goku 2.0 and 3.0, or Oda incapacity of making women look different, or any other time a mangaka style shows, then Mashima doesn't deserve the hate. I swear, it's like people love to hate on that man for no good reason. No, Edens Zero isn't Fairy Tail in space, and it doesn't need to be. I'm sad the manga is ending soon but I can't wait to see gow it'll end. I'm still hoping for a bitter sweet ending, like everyone get saved bit Shiki and Rebecca have to be sacrificed in the process. I just need some drama in my life, some stories should remember that death is a good thing, if not needed, to make it believable and impactful.
@Osamaghassan050
@Osamaghassan050 21 күн бұрын
💯💯 i hope that too the manga is amazing
@shyguyevolved7392
@shyguyevolved7392 6 ай бұрын
I'm not caught up with the manga but I do know the truth of the matter is it's Underrated and not so popular because everyone wanted to compare it to Fairy Tail so much that it just didn't get the true notoriety it deserved it didn't even get season 2 of the anime to be in English dub probably because everyone dissed on it looking so much like Fairy Tail and stuff like that during season 1 that of course season 2 was not getting English dub and that's the truth of it period (which means this is mostly just the fault of anime only people who can't seen to understand that Fairy Tail and Edens Zero were done by the same guy)
@Fuckyoutubecensorship1
@Fuckyoutubecensorship1 5 ай бұрын
What are you talking about there is a season 2 of 25!!!!
@3x0ticContent
@3x0ticContent 3 ай бұрын
The reason s2 didn't get an English dub is because the show changed from netflix exclusive to crunchyroll and so the dubbing team lost the rights to it. Although they may dub it in the future but who knows when that will be
@Ace101Mega
@Ace101Mega 6 ай бұрын
I gonna sum everything , Edens Zero is a experimentation manga. Why I think it is ? Mashima tackling a new genre and it's a genre that Japanese audience do not like (unless it is Gundam). A genre that takes a lot of time to plan out and a lot of chapters. His planning involves around Shiki and Becca only , the side characters are "plan" on the go as the story keeps going. The side characters backstory and development are mostly done within an arc and after that , nothing for them. That includes the villains ( Drakken and Shura are the only two stands out). The length of the chapters he chose to end off is just to short. This series need to be beyond Fairy Tail chapters numbers. I just feel her wants to try something new but it didn't reach the height of Fairy tail in the long run. I believe the new series Dead Rock is his way of saying , "Let me use what I know." fantasy genre and fans wanna see a dark side to it. He going back to what he knows. I also feels the fans on twitter and reactor play apart to Edens Zero outlook. impatient and melodrama about certain things like side characters and villains on how they be done. Plot point not reaching sooner. Just bad time to read weekly but I feel a re-read would feel better.
@murderman8578
@murderman8578 6 ай бұрын
I'm liking Dead Rock a lot since there's more tension and stakes and actually leaves me guessing
@Ace101Mega
@Ace101Mega 6 ай бұрын
@@murderman8578 Fantasy is his strong genre. In my opinion.
@Incog-e1z
@Incog-e1z 6 ай бұрын
I like the video, but I disagree with you on one point. I think the downfall started with Dracken Joe. In his author notes he says that he thought that the arc was too dark and wanted to change it to be more light hearted. After that, you notice a trend where he basically refuses to put his foot down on anything, likely for fear that he’d have to go back and change it later.
@chromafire
@chromafire 5 ай бұрын
Should I catch up then? Cz U0 was frustrating me a lot.
@istalkghosts497
@istalkghosts497 4 ай бұрын
I have watched the entire eps of S2 so what manga chapter should i read to catch upnfrom where it left?
@boredbeck
@boredbeck 6 ай бұрын
Mashima writing himself into a corner and not planning ahead???? shocker 🙄
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
Least he made it past 300 chapters in fairy tail.
@boredbeck
@boredbeck 6 ай бұрын
@@DarkEclipse23 i dropped fairy tail around the final arc...after the edolas arc it started to get bad, i just cant take it anymore on the final arc...only thing i heard from the final arc was that zeref got friendship nerfed and acnologia got one shotted smmfh 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@imsentinelprime9279
@imsentinelprime9279 4 ай бұрын
Man is making the same damn mistakes he made from fairy tail. Yet people say eden zero is soo much better.
@ctvuniverse4414
@ctvuniverse4414 4 ай бұрын
​@@imsentinelprime9279 It's still a alot better, one mediocre last arc doesn't take away all the good ones.
@MegaMachiOnline
@MegaMachiOnline 6 ай бұрын
100 year quest still existing too
@Shachar50
@Shachar50 4 ай бұрын
Well I stopped watching the video when you headed to the spoilers, and even though I'm not an anime fan, I really liked that show. I watched the 1st season on Netflix and finished it in like 2 days, then moved to the 2nd season. I think the first was better in a way, and they could add some more episodes while expanding the plot (to be more realistic, or let the audience's feeling process better). And the 2nd season, was a little rush, and way too much characters (and stories). And I felt disappointed at the last 2 episodes, like.. it should be deeper than that. I'm waiting for the next season
@briandaleske5139
@briandaleske5139 6 ай бұрын
I hope a Second Season of (EDENS ZERO) anime show series gets made someday.
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
There is on crunchyroll.
@DiabolikAngel-kx3zn
@DiabolikAngel-kx3zn 4 ай бұрын
The second season has been out for like a year on Crunchyroll lmao
@briandaleske5139
@briandaleske5139 4 ай бұрын
@@DiabolikAngel-kx3zn I wonder when will the, English Dubbed version, of (EDENS ZERO) anime show, Second Season might come out?
@jp3711nc1
@jp3711nc1 6 ай бұрын
When I watch eden Zero, I may try again is I see fairy tail the plot may be different, but there no changes in design. I love fairy tail .
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
It’s Mashima gimmick. Even Fairy Tail copied a lot from Rave. Justice is just Jellal who is just Sieghart who is just his oc oneshot magician.
@aganbraganca4156
@aganbraganca4156 6 ай бұрын
@@DarkEclipse23 ya but rave was popular like fairy tail they copied only small elements from rave except for jellal other characters have different style
@calvinmatthews1527
@calvinmatthews1527 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, for me, the U0 Saga started out well enough. All the villains & MCs returning was "fine". Doesn't really undo all those deaths from the previous. The Miltz Arc was pretty great. But the current arc was specifically where it went downhill. The Darkstars & OSG being jobbers. And having Void replace Ziggy as the main antag. Overall, I still like the manga & anime a lot but, the ones in charge of both are trying to kill my enjoyment. I'm still excited for S3 and I think Mashima can salvage the manga if he has some huge twist with Void & OSG of Universe 0.
@nad4243
@nad4243 6 ай бұрын
I personally think the fact that it's an ongoing manga was kinda bad for it. Many people got bored or just forgot in the middle of an arc. I personally only read EZ when i remember it like around every 6 months or so, and binge reading EZ is a wonderful experience. Also i feel like a lot of people just don't have fun with the story anymore like sure it's getting dark but sometimes it's okay to slow down.
@chipin1526
@chipin1526 3 ай бұрын
it still has not hit me this manga ended even though I literally read it like 40min ago
@SamTheGumMan117
@SamTheGumMan117 6 ай бұрын
I honestly couldn't tell you since I never tried it besides the very beginning for both the anime/manga but hope fans still enjoy it
@vanderbiltalexsingleton2041
@vanderbiltalexsingleton2041 2 ай бұрын
No dub for season 2 is a bummer
@electroelysium2281
@electroelysium2281 19 күн бұрын
There is a dubbed version though ? At least in French there is :')
@victorbruno4584
@victorbruno4584 5 ай бұрын
I’m not touching Eden’s zero until they dub season 2
@xenolith5032
@xenolith5032 6 ай бұрын
Spoilers for the Manga!! This is just my personal opinion on what happened with me and EZ. Spoiler Warning! Edens Zero for me died when Ziggy was revealed to be controlled. The reason for this is because my interpretation (which was largely based on facts Mashima laid out in the series already) was that Ziggy was actually evil. And when we got the reveal of him being Shiki but from the future, I feel why it truly mattered was lost because he was controlled. I'm going to explain what my interpretation was about what this reveal was going to do and why it mattered. It calls back to a lot of the already established themes and plot points. Basically the idea was that Ziggy was a Shiki from the future who got all his memories back when he was revived on Granbell. He got reminded by the memories he lost and all the pain and trauma he went through, and thus he fell to the Dark Side of Gravity (established by Xenolith) and seeks to destroy Mother to prevent someone from going through similar trauma he did. Thats why I thought Ziggy being Shiki mattered, and I feel you lose out on this with Ziggy being a pawn and not actually evil. Also the rushed Kaede war arc, and the arc that followed after it are also reasons why the series died for me.
@murderman8578
@murderman8578 6 ай бұрын
Same problem with OFA controlling Shiggy from the beginning
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
The series for me died when they restarted the entire universe and timeline and cheapened every emotional moment so everyone could be alive.
@emeraldace541
@emeraldace541 6 ай бұрын
Fare enough If I say I liked the twist, are you going to call me an idiot or something else negative
@Fuckyoutubecensorship1
@Fuckyoutubecensorship1 5 ай бұрын
​@@emeraldace541personally I like the twist
@offbrandshazam9831
@offbrandshazam9831 2 ай бұрын
I’m not gonna hold you that shit is confusing as hell if you don’t read the manga
@TheAnimeKoala
@TheAnimeKoala 6 ай бұрын
I loved the manga, but the anime really killed my love for the series with how much it mistreated it with the censorship and simplified art. I'd say the anime itself is the biggest reason the series is in the bad position its in now. The manga has been great, so there really isn't an issue there. These days especially people want adaptations to elevate the manga, but in EZ's case it wasn't even on par with it. Can't really expect something like that to help the series gain popularity. What saddens me is knowing how little Mashima could do. With the recent Hinako Ashihara tragedy who had an adaptation produced by the same company as EZ its very much became apparent that the mangaka don't really get a proper say in ensuring their works are treated with respect. The mangaka basically has to stand up against producers to ensure their work is treated with respect. Considering Mashima said he didn't like to force his way in regards to the manga itself in a volume afterward there is no way he'd make demands of producers. So its just an unfortunate situation all around.
@murderman8578
@murderman8578 6 ай бұрын
He Is Giant name in the industry so should have some slay with the producers compared to a rookie when their first series blows JC Borders on Having Average Adaptation or Being Really Good or Their Source contracted paycheck show The Animation is nothing noteworthy
@TheAnimeKoala
@TheAnimeKoala 6 ай бұрын
@@murderman8578 He should have a say, but mangaka are put in a position where they can't people speak up. Like I said with the Hinako Ashihara tragedy, she was a veteran magnaka and still had her work messed up. She even tried making requests but got ignored. Its a major problem in the industry. The only way you can get what you want is if you demand things of the producers, you must be forceful. As for JC they aren't even on the committee which is a big reason the quality isn't there since they don't have financial incentive. Also the fact they take on too many projects.
@chidzhustle3570
@chidzhustle3570 6 ай бұрын
I read to the arc where the “KZbinrs” all got kidnapped, thought it was okay to good But, I simply do not trust Hiro Mashima to carry a story. He’s just not that good a writer, consistently.
@bruis1527
@bruis1527 6 ай бұрын
I actually think that the time skip arc (whatever it’s called) was the most hype Eden’s zero had ever been. Best fights, best villain, best plot points, it was great to me
@motokavsvlog7737
@motokavsvlog7737 2 ай бұрын
21K 3mo 19K subs
@jbobruleful
@jbobruleful 6 ай бұрын
Its such a good show. I blame Netflix not having season 2 dubbed. I wanted to watch it dubbed a very rare occurrence
@ReckSaber3664
@ReckSaber3664 21 күн бұрын
Crunchy roll doesn’t even have season 2 dubbed
@jbobruleful
@jbobruleful 21 күн бұрын
@ReckSaber3664 yes because it was a joint venture thru Netflix. After the deal died due to Netflix putting ads on anime on free tiers and creators don't want commercials to influence viewers since in Japan it's on a channel with none while it airs. Crunchyroll only got the 1st season from Netflix and continues too minus the contracts for the voices. Hope they aren't tied to Netflix only 😵😵 sad.
@emreyigit2004
@emreyigit2004 6 ай бұрын
Better than fairy tail ngl
@aganbraganca4156
@aganbraganca4156 6 ай бұрын
not even close
@Corvy952
@Corvy952 6 ай бұрын
Not after this last arc
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
@@Corvy952any potential of it surpassing fairy tail died when they rebooted the timeline do everyone can stay alive snd shiki doesn’t need to make a hard choice.
@AntonioSoto-tj9zo
@AntonioSoto-tj9zo Ай бұрын
Yea I like Eden zero just got boring for while I’m glad it’s picking its pace again
@EmmanuelMarin07
@EmmanuelMarin07 6 ай бұрын
What? Side characters not getting attention? Almost like they were being pushed to the side? Unheard of s/
@Hadochan4
@Hadochan4 3 ай бұрын
After the Lenard arc and they went to the new universe the series went downhill. U can tell Mashima rushed
@murderman8578
@murderman8578 6 ай бұрын
Ehhhhhh the Final Arc and the themes just feel by the numbers The Fights are 1-2 chapter bombastic power displays The Time travel plot twists could be confusing if you think about it Humans vs Robots just feel basic Kinda suffers from Classic Shounen Final War type annoyances JC Staff Adaptation is VERY average The Animation in the Fights don't stand out in any visually distinct way and the Directing is serviceable Villains are so forgettable
@NitwitsWorld
@NitwitsWorld 3 ай бұрын
Final chapter was kinda mid 😅
@MercyKnights
@MercyKnights 4 ай бұрын
I thought it was fairy tail
@Graphixdini
@Graphixdini 5 ай бұрын
Vids like this make me realize I’m not a nerd you guys be crying about nothing the anime is good I never read the manga how do yall be made what you think is gonna happen don’t happend you people need serious help if thing like that get you mad at a show
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 4 ай бұрын
They have opinions and if you can't respect them kindly go £%^&& yourself
@slybollie9019
@slybollie9019 3 ай бұрын
just finished it, i'm pretty disappointed
@Osamaghassan050
@Osamaghassan050 22 күн бұрын
Why
@slybollie9019
@slybollie9019 19 күн бұрын
@@Osamaghassan050 it deserved a better ending just like tokyo revengers, the last arc just ruins the rest of it
@Osamaghassan050
@Osamaghassan050 19 күн бұрын
@@slybollie9019 I am currently in the last arc too and unfortunately It's a huge disappointment how the plot fell apart like this after being so great. I hope we get a good ending.
@Dot.Figures
@Dot.Figures 6 ай бұрын
Haters of this manga surely loves Boruto😂😂😂
@FirmlyGrasp_IT
@FirmlyGrasp_IT 6 ай бұрын
'twas never good
@mtnkarat
@mtnkarat 6 ай бұрын
cuz it's great
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
Don’t get me wrong. I loved the series up to the U0 arc. I loved the characters. Yeah I made dumb jokes about reusing designs but that is a Mashima staple. Fairy tail reused a TON from Rave and still had its originality. U0 just disappointed me.
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 6 ай бұрын
Series for me died when they went to Universe 0 and permanently undid every hardship and emotional moment. :/ especially that plot deus ex bull shite with Mother. Why bother having hard choices and consequences when it means piss all.
@Shachar50
@Shachar50 4 ай бұрын
Well I stopped watching the video when you headed to the spoilers, and even though I'm not an anime fan, I really liked that show. I watched the 1st season on Netflix and finished it in like 2 days, then moved to the 2nd season. I think the first was better in a way, and they could add some more episodes while expanding the plot (to be more realistic, or let the audience's feeling process better). And the 2nd season, was a little rush, and way too much characters (and stories). And I felt disappointed at the last 2 episodes, like.. it should be deeper than that. I'm waiting for the next season
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