What Happened To Terminator Genisys?

[@ShootingStar1313]

They really shot themselves in the foot by revealing John Connor to be a terminator in the movie's trailer. 💢

[@thomasstudstrup5028]

They shot themselves in the foot with the movie.. Periopd!!

[@jimmyjarrett-ws2iz]

They did the same with the Salvation ad, showing the main guy was a android. I could understand if it was a clip that sold the film, but a totally unnecessary spoiler in both these films. Now I come to think about it, T2 gave away Arnie being the good guy in the theatrical trailer.

[@ZenKrio]

This is exactly what I always said. I think this movie was actually decent, but the trailer spoiled any twist..

[@fredp8388]

They honestly should have went forward with Salvation timeline

[@deeacosta2734]

McG F’d that up.

[@adamdavis1737]

Agreed, that movie could have been better but I thought it was interesting enough and unique from the rest of the franchise. They could have lead it into looking more like the future war depicted in the others

[@nickxiong26]

Salvation had its issues but yes, should’ve followed that timeline for sure.

[@SnitchNarc]

@@deeacosta2734

[@SnitchNarc]

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[@imawesomeyourenot]

"But that's a different guy!" - is all i can think of every time i see anything Terminator related now.

[@scottieman2]

That's Sarah Connor? That's a different gurl.

[@dr.loomis4221]

lol I was just watching that yesterday

[@TheTrueNorth11]

What are you referencing?

[@dr.loomis4221]

@@TheTrueNorth11 Look up "Half in the Bag Terminator Dark Fate" and watch the opening.

[@RichieW90210]

@@TheTrueNorth11he’s referencing Mr Plinkett, from Red Letter Media

[@CrimsonEdler]

The worst part of the film for me, which kills it to the core and all that is left here of the atmosphere of first parts - Jai Courtney, his casting for the role of Kyle Reese and what is left of the character in the film. Instead of a worn out by years of survival in nuclear ruins but experienced soldier which was devoted to his goal and able to adapt to the surrounding reality, in Genisys it’s a pumped-up hysteric who cannot keep himself in his hands in any stressful situation. In concept, switching him and Sara and making her a window to the world of the different future for him could work, but not with this performance, not with the tone of silly comedy and.. Not with this actor. However, I sincerely respect his casting agent, this person pulled out pretty juicy roles for him in 10’s

[@MAZZ0Murder]

They really kill the character when they make him say the tired old cliche of "I didn't sign up for this sh*t!", it's exactly what you've been signed up for for years!

[@Shorty_Lickens]

Emilia Clarke was probably the worst choice they could have made. She was shoe-horned in because she's popular. Not because she fit the role. But since the movie tanked I guess it doesn't matter.

[@hollywood21639]

Completely agree

[@Tribrid-zv3nq]

Obviously it was an ensemble cast

[@tonyg3644]

Her role on GOT has carried her since

[@carlossantiago6642]

While yes she was a shoe horn for a young Sarah visually.

[@TheAmateurEditor]

Still better than Bree Larson...

[@ssj2_snake]

I just cant get over that John Connor is a Terminator. I remember before the movie came out, I actually remember thinking, what would be the dumbest possible thing that could happen in a Terminator movie? And the answer I came up with, that John Connor would be a Terminator

[@jamaltruss1994]

I mean it actually made since as a different timeline his little group was infiltrated and ended up using him

[@Tribrid-zv3nq]

1. Its a different timeline 2. Whats wrong with the hero becoming a villain? Thats an interesting plot

[@SimianScience]

i remember a commercial for the movie gave that away

[@LordLOC]

If they made the other two movies they had planned, pretty sure it would wind up being John Conner yet again who sent Pops back to save Sarah in 74 or whatever year it was. It couldn't be a new character because we didn't get any new characters that matter really - so unless Matt Smith's Skynet somehow sent Pops back, it kinda had to be John Conner again. So, he might have been turned into a Terminator, but he'd again be the hero by the end, I guess. That's my take. Or maybe ANOTHER timeline sent ANOTHER Pops from ANOTHER John Conner, I mean I'm getting confused just thinking about it now lol

[@Cakebattered]

Its stupid because fans have really never seen John Conner as the hero figure he is fated to become.

[@NoahMcleany]

The level of name mispronunciations in this video makes me wish Skynet would come online now

[@karl_alan]

Seriously. I cannot fathom how the names got pronounced that badly unless it was on purpose.

[@HisShadowX]

I think the terminator anime series put it well Skynet doesn’t realize when it goes back in time it creates a new timeline but the old one still exists. So John was never supposed to exist.

[@ECKohns]

I enjoyed the beginning of the movie where it served as a remake/mash up of the first two movies. Where Kyle Reese got to meet the badass Sarah Connor, the good T-800, and the T-1000. But then when they traveled to the 2010s the movie lost me.

[@davemccage7918]

Jia Cortney and Emilia Clark had no chemistry! They act like they wouldn’t have sex with each other even if they were the last two humans on earth and you gave them a gram of MDMA mixed with amphetamines each!

[@jcp1984again]

Well, even before that the plasticky and overpolished look of the VFX and characters was pretty painful to watch. Sure, the CGI recreation of the 1984 Schwarzenegger looks great until it starts to move its mouth. Then the over-the-top sound effects and bloodless fighting begins.

[@bjrnhalfhand2258]

They did T-1000 dirty

[@geeshep4836]

Happy 40th Anniversary Terminator And Terminator 2: Judgment Day Are Two All-Time Favorites.

[@jayeckberg774]

I really enjoyed this film. I'll take Genisys over Dark Fate any time. It's a shame that the idiots who created the trailer ruined John's turn.

[@blakeholland7640]

Agreed. I actually was digging what Genisys was doing and was pumped to see it continue. I enjoyed the new take on the Terminator with “Pops” as I genuinely liked Arnold’s new version of the character. I also enjoyed Jason Clarke’s version of John Connor. Not only as a good guy but as a Terminator himself. Dark Fate…was a big middle finger to the entire audience.

[@mullaoslo]

​@@blakeholland7640i still feel bad for Matt Smith with that one.. He signed on for a trilogy with a promise that his version of skynet would be the ultimate bad guy of the franchise.. He was left with one movie that he barley appears in

[@SonCarlosH]

Same here 🍻

[@peternystrom921]

I take none of them.

[@SonCarlosH]

@@peternystrom921 haha that's ok. Everything after T2 does pale in comparison honestly but speaking for myself I try to find the good in these sequels 😅 except Salvation I hated it

[@Atlanta_Cyclist]

Thankfully, Terminator Zero on Netflix gives a great explanation to all the different timelines and storylines of this franchise.

[@fabiendalmasso]

Seriously ? well, that would be a good point to watch it.

[@joeshmow9097]

Watch it. Zero is the best Terminator related thing since T2, and I loved the Sarah Connor Chronicles

[@dylanblackstone8469]

Replying to this random comment to remind myself why I watched terminator 0 will provide update at some point in future

[@DogeickBateman]

@@fabiendalmasso Just warning you, there is severe nerfing of the Terminators in the show for the girlboss protagonist

[@nicholasbennett7367]

How people are saying terminator Zero is so great is beyond me I’m on the fourth episode and I can’t get into it

[@UziNineMillomeetah]

Terminator Resistance is the true third story/prequel.

[@idontcare6662]

Everyone forgets about that series, it was really good. Also terminator zero just released and it basically does extremely well what Genesis and dark fate wanted to do but failed. It's really good.

[@josearrocha3377]

@@idontcare6662 Series? That's a video game.

[@idontcare6662]

@@josearrocha3377 lmao oh yea haven't tried that yet, I thought you meant the TV show like 10 years ago

[@ShootingStar1313]

Damn good game. There are a few action scenes where it plays like Call of Duty, but for the most part you're on your own, scavenging for supplies, taking your sweet time and only engaging terminators when you've got the advantage.💀

[@jonathanlisowski5618]

​@@idontcare6662 I believe you're referring to the Sarah Connor Chronicles. I heard it's pretty good. I definitely want to see it one of these days.

[@ImperialEarthEmpire]

i really wish they just end the stinking story, with Kyle Reese step into the time machine thingy and tie in with the first movie...

[@WesleyScottOfficial]

Always thought that would be a pretty good ending to it. Making it a constant loop.

[@marvelfoxmorty5057]

At least Genisys was slightly watchable than an absurd Dark Fate

[@Nickr3000]

Yeah but James Cameron made Dark Fate so the Internet claims it's good automatically and based on nothing else like it does with the rest of his dreck

[@stellviahohenheim]

Genisys is watchable because of the female lead but it's ruined again by the male lead

[@alienboy1322]

That's the opposite with me.

[@alienboy1322]

​@@stellviahohenheim Someone got issues.

[@marlonclark-ky6ub]

i only watch Genisys for Emilia Clarke

[@lordofthereels6790]

Make one with Miles Dyson's kid who paradoxically recreates Skynet out of his fear from Sara's home invasion from 2. Have him be a socially awkward but scientific genius who's a mirror of the Terminator who protects him. Disconnect it from The Connors and give Dyson a Stark smart but Sheldon awkward portrayal.

[@rizkifachriansyah4332]

IIRC, The Sarah Connor Chronicles had an episode on the Dysons that I thought was among the series’ highlights.

[@NostalgiaBrit]

Everything after _'Judgement Day'_ was just the worst kind of dreck! I wanted to grab the writers & directors and demand to know, *"WTF were you thinking?!"*

[@emperoralvis6559]

I agree. The first 2 are excellent, after that it was a steep decline.

[@fernandodelaserna1225]

What an amazing decade was the 80’s for movies. Hollywood should pay attention to why it ruled (originality) and stop recycling those ideas.

[@ChondroMan]

Bro every type of media since the beginning has and forever will just be rehashes of other stories. There's a handful of stories that ppl just keep rewriting with the same outlines just different ppl different times.

[@SmeagolTheGreat]

​@@ChondroMan Sure, but there is still a difference between (various) creative inspiration and soulless and uninspired rehashing of existing brands.

[@86BarbOmega]

@fernandodelaserna 💯

[@narcodium]

90’s not 80’s. The 80’s had some ok flicks but not nearly as great as the 90’s

[@MikeG82]

@@narcodium nope 80's was better, 90's was the beginning of the end

[@Tubester001]

I owned a copy of Genisys a while back, solely because I do love Terminator (1 & 2 mostly). Not too long ago I was going through my disc collection to see if there were any titles I wanted to purge, and Genisys did not make the cut. I donated it to Goodwill. It’s just not worth the space or repeat viewings.

[@AudreyTheCollie]

So…are we all just gonna ignore the denis villeneuve pronunciation?

[@Eden_Fayiar]

Avarage movie but still way better then Dark Fate ...i do love the T-3000 idea It feels like a next big step after a Liquid T-1000

[@dennissmith5807]

It sucks. That’s what happened

[@bp2557]

You’re funny. You should try stand-up!

[@dustindoucet5615]

Good one lol

[@adamxhanley]

As succinct as it is accurate

[@theramplocal]

Lol I have never seen this movie, I will keep that in mind when I do watch it! 🤘😀🤘

[@g.sferrazza10-13]

what sucks even more is that when you watch it, at a certain point you think maybe IF they had done just this or that it could of been great. That is what really sucks! When the potential is there and palpable visually, and you are there waiting for the catch and all you get is the ball being dropped

[@AHalevonEric]

They had Jai and Matt Smith and neither played John Connor. I question that decision.

[@thomasstudstrup5028]

Really?? I question why Jai was even allowed to play Kyle Reese. I question anything coming from you, as you actually likeJai.

[@Kthomasritchie]

I first saw 'The Terminator' on VHS back in '84. I've been a fan of the two movies ever since.

[@joshuahoover6841]

Me too!

[@fabiendalmasso]

I see what you did there 😀

[@JV-ll1cu]

You mean the first 2

[@Kthomasritchie]

@@fabiendalmasso Ha ha.

[@theriddler5601]

Genisys actually had solid ideas that could have been the future of the franchise, it was just poorly executed.

[@FinalFlameProductions]

Yep. It needed better casting choices for Sarah and Kyle and it needed to cut down on the silly.

[@peterogrodnick5693]

The “I’m tired of this grandpa…THATS TOO DAMN BAD!” clip was a stroke of genius

[@krank23]

The only thing I didn't like about this movie is that EVERY plot twist was spoiled for me by a trailer before I saw it. I absolutely believe I'd have had a lot more fun if I hadn't gone in knowing everyything. That experience is the reason why I nowadays refuse to watch trailers and go out of my way not to see them before I see the movie.

[@PPsqueezer]

The beginning scene for this movie still goes HARD and I pop in the blu ray from time to time just to watch it.

[@playswithsquirrels7614]

Arnold's Terminator in Genesis upgraded to a T-1000 at the end.. Which I thought was awesome 😎

[@JokersVsZombies]

Honestly, this is my 3rd favorite terminator movie.

[@JV-ll1cu]

Same

[@ecthox-1mork909]

Likewise.

[@FinalFlameProductions]

I think T3 is better. Better casted and less bloated.

[@cfssuperhero]

It's my second favourite. 🤷‍♂️

[@thomasstudstrup5028]

Honestly youre clueless. I bet The Terminator and Terminator 2 is not even on your stupid list.

[@weldsj8847]

It should have stayed in 1980 showing the ramifications of messing with the timeline. That part of the movie was a blast.

[@makatron]

Salvation timeline was the only one worth exploring, this genisys was atrocious even though it looked great.

[@enachepauliulian5046]

Out of all the "modern" terminator movies(3,salvation,Genesys and dark fate) I liked Genesys the most

[@sjbrooksy45]

They forgot that the Terminator was scary

[@residentgrigo4701]

Thank god for the anime. Too bad it´s Netflix ratings seem low at the moment.

[@featherguardian6023]

Honestly after Dark Fate I might have been too harsh on this Movie, it still is Bad but it has some good stuff like the T-800, T-1000, Kyle, and J.K Simmons, 3 out of 10.

[@Tarquin23]

Nah, at least Dark Fate hit the beats of a typical Terminator story. Genisys felt like a watered-down, dumb version of the series. I saw it in cinema twice and really enjoyed it at the time, despite the over-the-top action, the silly social media-based company, Matt Smith and Jae Courtney (the worst decisions for a Terminator film) and some of the humour. I guess I just liked the concept and I enjoyed the throwbacks and artistry that went into recreating the original scenes with a twist. Rewatching it now really does nothing for me but make me realise it’s the least like any of the other films, because it doesn’t fully understand them.

[@thomasstudstrup5028]

It did not have Kyle. It had Jai Courtney pissing all over the character. Go watch The Terminator and watch the real Kyle, masterfully played by Michael Biehn, who also looked the part of a starved tormented soldier from a future war. Jai looked like he had just been to the gym and sprayed himself with stinking cologne. But had Kyle Reese been a moron, then Jai would have nailed him. It also did not have T1000. Robert Patrick wasnt in it. Insted it was some asian actor.

[@RobotacularRoBob]

Dark Fate was far better than Genesys since it wasn’t as convoluted and closer in tone to the first 2: Also, best villain since T2.

[@koslisted9458]

Even though it was short, this installment had the best footage of the future war, next to the original anyway.

[@MrHootiedean]

Alan Taylor knows how to shoot a film, the movie is gorgeous to look at! So was his Thor. He would be A-list if his movie scripts were as strong as his tv projects, because there he is killing it!

[@thomasstudstrup5028]

No hev does not!!

[@ImNotOriginal1]

This film was really great in that it started the same as the original but then went in a completely different direction and covered a lot of realistic concepts. Skynet being IOT and how much society is hooked on tech for example.

[@SammyRenard]

I'm a weirdo who doesn't mind any of the terminator sequels past 2, but that's also because I'm a Robocop fanboy and he's got it even worse than Terminator

[@369frequencyandvibration]

I'm so glad you said T2 ... T1 was great too! 😊

[@JoBloHorrorOriginals]

T1 is an absolute classic

[@calvobianco]

@@JoBloHorrorOriginals Fede Alvarez should do a Terminator movie next. :)

[@rjspires]

Terminator, the film series to have 3 films labelled as the third in the series.

[@mstcrow5429]

Oracle as Cyberdyne Systems? Sounds right to me.

[@PapaFozzy]

This was a good installment of the franchise. I'll die on that hill

[@PapaLaw426]

You are not alone

[@sparke1999]

I thought this movie was actually pretty good. I liked it better than dark fate

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

It ain't much, but honest work. I love how the franchise has fallen into a recursive loop of revisionism, like Primer for the salt of the earth. Instead of pandering to the desperate escapism of people for whom, like alcohol, the world is too much. Constantly hammering at the inescapable gravity of Judgment Day is way more interesting than crying about losing your happy ending. It's like a Roku's Basilisk thing. I liked it before Arrival, Annihilation or Interstellar picked up on it, getting to even recently follow anime like Kado: The right answer or Kokkoku.

[@JV-ll1cu]

I don't think it was bad either

[@g.sferrazza10-13]

I would not say what we got was good, but there was a lot of potential for a decent story had they set up the 'Trilogy' better. In the end the audience could of had a good story told through multiple movies. just my take though

[@jamiespinks3657]

What i don't understand is why they didn't use remastered footage featuring Bill Paxton from the original Terminator movie for the scene with the 3 punks.

[@jadeybarnett6296]

What happened to “what the f*c€ happened to”?! Now it’s just “what happened to”?

[@beatrixwickson8477]

I hadn't noticed but looks like 6 months ago there was "wtf happened to Hannibal" then shortly after "What happened to the Mummy?" and no WTFs since then. Not sure why.

[@karl_alan]

Gonna say, been that way for months now. But then again, can't really conceptualize why it matters & people keep asking every video.

[@rogermazuca4582]

Bunch of softies thinking he was sh*thing on their beloved movie before even watching the video 😭

[@TheTNK97]

I actually didn’t hate Genysis.. it was better than Dark Fate lol.

[@CO84trucker]

I like how T-G delved into Arnold-bots being subject to aging both in skin & hair graying and mechanical wear-and-tear!

[@TheViper4Life]

My official Terminator 3 is now the video game Terminator Resistance. The gameplay may have felt dated, but every other facet of that game, from story to setting to lore was made with the utmost love from the developers and it's the only thing since that's truly felt like a successor that fits the mold of T1 and T2. It even does the ONE thing everyone has wanted from something Terminator related that tries to end the franchise...it rounds it self out BACK to T1 in a very believable way that says our heroes could never beat time itself, but here was the journey they went on to get BACK to point A. The game just worked and it's the T3 we deserve and never got.

[@mikemike7326]

I watched this some years back and thought it was reeeeally good so I was shocked to hear how much folks didn’t like it but I needa rewatch

[@jamescrompton5260]

I have a soft spot for genisys. 😂

[@FinalFlameProductions]

It was fun in places. Stupid...........but fun.

[@cubeflinger]

Awful casting choices. Over confidence in the story. Brand exhaustion. Salvation came the closest to a reasonable follow-up, for me. Just a very dry movie.

[@matthewnicholas6365]

If they kept the twist a secret (in any Terminator movie since judgement day) and kept the real life gore/language from 1, this would have been a great movie in the series IMO.

[@matthewnicholas6365]

FYI T2 was supposed to be a surprise that the T800 was the good guy. You weren't supposed to know until he shoots the T1000 T3 showed the inevitable Judgement Day occurring in trailers Salvation showed Marcus was a hybrid and, tbh, it was fairly easy to figure out after the time jump anyway. Then this one. Another twist that could have been hidden and elevated the movie in the theatres.

[@themoralreformchronicles9231]

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[@BronyLord-wo1ym]

I very much enjoyed Terminator: Genisys.

[@clemente3]

I loved this video 😄 it took me back to those early mobile phone game days haha It was like a chapter erased from memory 🧠

[@erroneous6947]

Amelia Clark and Jai Courtney. Then there was the shit writing.

[@MackyFermion]

I enjoyed Genisys. It was goofy fun and it took the franchise in some zany directions. I wouldn't have mind seeing where it all went. Or just where any of them could have went. The Terminator is in a perpetual state of death and rebirth and that's kinda meta.

[@pastormartinez4676]

They dropped the ball hard on Genesis and Feminator:Faked fate. T1,T2& T Salvation is all there is for me

[@worsel555]

Ignoring that this movie literally skips over John being born because they quickly left the 1984 timeline and thus he was never conceived, I really wish that the story from Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles had been carried on. Before its cancelation (good old writers strike helped with a lot of shows dying that year) the show ended on a huge cliffhanger BUT it did answer the question on how John survives Judgement Day and brings up some interesting twists in the war against Skynet. Not every machine wants humans exterminated and there is a faction that broke away from Skynet and allied with the Resistance, working together to bring down Skynet. That alone would have been amazing to explore in more detail, but it will sadly never come to be.

[@REBELFUSILIER]

Denise V on Terminator would be magic

[@zenquantum1246]

The best way to watch a trilogy in the muddled Terminator series is: 1) Salvation 2) Terminator 3) Judgement Day You (1) set the stakes and then (2) go for the bleak middle chapter and (3) finish with the high point in the series

[@highwayman1218]

Those are the only ones I care to watch.

[@Maxiverse_Twist]

really tried to mix old school nostalgia with a fresh start.. but it ended up as a bit of a confusing mess. It’s like they were juggling too many timelines and ideas at once, and instead of crafting something new and exciting, they just ended up with a movie that feels all over the place. It’s a tough break for fans hoping for a worthy follow up to Terminator 2

[@Scott-y9g5f]

It could have been worse. It could have been project shadow chaser

[@spudlyson]

JC playing Reese hurt me so bad, he’s terrible but if BL played Sarah, I wouldn’t have even watched it once.

[@JasonReagan84]

The true sequels to T2 is a trilogy of novels called "T2: Infiltrator" and it's SO GOOD. Read those for a direct continuation of T2

[@lesliejas]

I think the real problem with Terminator films since T2 is that Cameron originally had no intention of making anymore films and had even shot an ending where the war never happened for T2. Those two films were the story and that’s how it should have ended. You can’t really do any better than the first 2 films. Some movies aren’t meant to be franchises. Terminator was one of them.

[@kennethbowers2897]

I wish they continued the salvation timeline, I actually liked the early war concept with Skynet still learning and using conventional weaponey.

[@mistercohaagen]

I started liking Jason Clarke after this; was an awesome role for him. Lee Byung-hun's T-1000 was great too.

[@PaulJohn01]

What a coincidence i'm literally watching ( re-watching this right now on Netflix ) and it pops up in my recommendations 😮😮

[@What.99]

Right out of the gate, Genisys shot itself in the foot by revealing that John Connor had become a Terminator in the marketing. I don’t know if it would have saved the box office, but finding out that John Connor was now a villain would’ve been a massive reveal in the theater. My biggest issue with Genisys is the story though. It is so damn messy and confusing, and I get that it’s like that because they were planning on explaining everything in the sequels, but that was a bad idea imo, especially since it didn’t and won’t GET any sequels lol. They should’ve cut back on some of the unexplained/confusing bits, maybe saved them for a sequel or something, and focused on making a good standalone movie first and foremost, then if it got a sequel it could show that the T-5000 (Matt Smith) survived, instead of sequel-baiting everything so hard. I don’t think they even had an overall plan for the sequels, instead half-assing the story like Disney did with the Star Wars sequel trilogy. I still want to know who sent Pops back to protect Sarah. My guess is an alternate Sarah sent it back, but it’s all just so confusing with the original T-800, Pops, a new T-1000, a T-3000, a T-5000, and the future changing as Kyle is traveling to the past. Way too much shit to throw into a single movie and explain almost none of it besides “multiple timelines”. Even with Genisys having such a messy story, I greatly prefer it over Dark Fate. I lost respect for James Cameron over that movie…

[@danielskrivan6921]

My problem with this movie is that it tried to do too much. As you said, 7 timelines! I liked the idea of the polluted timeline in 1984. But then we just zip through that and onto a retread of T3 and T:SCC, and a less satisfying version of either of them.

[@CoinOpTV]

the only good thing about this movie is Lee Byung-hun - shame JoBlo neglected to shine any spotlight on him in this video tho.

[@luxdalet]

I actually enjoyed both Salvation and Genisys. I remember hearing lots of criticism about it when it came out, and also being annoyed by the trailers. But it turned out to be a a fun convoluted action movie for me. I still have to find the time to watch dark fate.

[@chamaileon81]

Not gonna lie, I think Salvation was really fun and a great way to move forward and with the added bonus of not having to fuck around with timelines. Just give us a bleak post apocalyptic future and go with it, since the first two movies perfectly built up this exact expectation.

[@DarkWestern]

I liked Genisys, when you involve multiverses and time travel, you can just make up anything, and as long as you are creative enough to accept some bizarre alternate timeline, it's just fun.

[@dr.loomis4221]

The thing missing in these sequels that was present in the first two films...is the horror element.

[@drive-incinemapictures1554]

It was pretty funny seeing Jai Courtney as Kyle Reese. Had no idea they had so much protein powder in the post-apocalyptic future.

[@ashens2]

Justin Lin is a legendary director.

[@satevo462]

T2 could have been such a disaster but it wasn't. It was a masterpiece.

[@troy8613]

Salvation had its issues, but it was by far the best movie, second only to Dark Fate.

[@eschelar]

None of the films since T2 have had an actual genuinely new idea. They have had new terminators, new applications of time travel, but nothing that holds up as a new concept. They may have forgotten to broach that always pertinent question, it's not about if they could... It's about if they should... Everything about it was shoe horned. They had a movie with no reason... With no "why"... And they thought they could make it up by replacing it by inserting it into their title.

[@matt_canon]

The first 45 minutes were decent. The way the 2029 and 1984 scenes went, it was clear to me they were a fan of the first two. But when it came to 2015 or 2017 (whatever year), that's where they struggled to come up with something original, and it felt like T3 did. -- Instead of making John Connor into a T-3000, I would have been interested to see John Connor come back as himself, with the enemy being Matt Smith. It wouldn't have made it great, but I would have been fine seeing that instead of what we got.

[@blatherskite3009]

I quite enjoyed Genisys for what it was. Skynet being a global OS launch and everyone being excited for it was a neat idea, and it was fun seeing memorable scenes from the first 2 films (rated 18 and 15 respectively here in the UK) recreated surprisingly authentically in a film that was rated 12, thanks to some cunning editing and framing. imho, the whole franchise is a bit "timey wimey" anyway, so why not run with that?

[@andrewgardner8972]

I thought it was good even though they screwed up with the recasting of Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor. It would have been better if Michael biehn and Linda Hamilton returned for their roles. And plus the movie was pg13. Terminator is rated R. End of story. But I had no problem with who they cast as t1000. Robert Patrick was great as the t1000 in terminator 2 and is still the best. But the guy they casted in this film from GI Joe 1 and 2 was just as good. I was glad to see the terminator team up with Sarah Connor and Kyle Reese. And see the terminator battle another version of himself. And it was good to see Kyle and Sarah reunite with their son John before he is revealed to be another terminator.

[@retrooutput]

I remember when they cast Nick Stahl as JC in T3 and thinking 'oh boy, what a mis-cast, they couldn't have got this more wrong' Well, here we are. Absolutely idiotic choice for Connor in this movie, the bloke just seems to smirk throughout his screen time! Good to see Hollywood is over the other side of their boner for Jai Courtney too, he sure knows how to sleepwalk into the destruction of franchises...

[@PineappleStickers]

It was easy to write off "John Connor" in Genysis as some other random non cannon character since he looked and acted nothing like any prior John Connors

[@phatnana2379]

The creators of these movies need to forget about Arnold, period! There are so many great characters who's lives they could have explored I will say tho, Emilia Clarke is a perfect LOOKING young Sarah Connor

[@thomasstudstrup5028]

Yeah but she is not Linda Hamilton. Emilia looks like shes about 12 years old in Genisys. And her acting is as shitty as Jais and Jasaons acting.

[@phatnana2379]

@@thomasstudstrup5028 hence my highlighting LOOKING

[@ucruci]

$440 million box office was considered a failure. Crazy.

[@juggalogamer8541]

I'll take Terminator Genisys any day over dark fart they completely shit all over the Terminator franchise with that dark fake crap just killing John Connor make it look like he didn't even mean shit and somebody else would have took over of course they had to do the woke shit with it it just took a crap all over the Terminator franchise

[@KongGig]

Would not surprise me if Arnold comes rolling in a Wheelchair during the next Terminator movie, only to then get replaced by an CGI Arnold during the remake Terminator movie.

[@KaNCeRmm4life]

You answered it right in your opening "what might be the greatest action film of all time".. Terminator and T2 are horror movies at heart and trying to compete with them as action movies is wrong.. unless you're gonna give us the future war James Cameron showed us.. Salvation got a lot right from that approach, Anton Yelchin as Kyle was top.. I'm not sure if he passed before genisys or not but if not that's a major fuck up in their part not keeping him.. and thats before getting into the John Connor twist.. meanwhile matt smith as the embodiment of skynet could of been awesome

[@ericalbers4867]

As bad as it was just imagine that it could've been so much worse had Larson got the role of Sarah Conner. She may not truly fit the role but at least she's tolerable and nice to look at.

[@brianmaxim]

There’s some interesting aspects to the film- the ‘84 scenes shows Cameron’s original concept of a shapeshifting Terminator in the mix and I think how they catered for an older Arnie worked well. But it’s hard to get past the casting of Emilia Clarke and Jai Courtney, and some terrible fan service…how many times do we need to see a terminator walk out of fire?! Dark Fate though has elevated Genisys a touch because despite the rehashed bits, I still give it credit for attempting a different angle instead of a by the numbers rip off.

[@gareckthetailor9918]

was my first terminator, dug it a good deal ngl

[@TFfan665]

Every time they made a new terminator movie. I keep wishing that they stuck to that reboot. I've been a terminator fan for years, and aspects to each new movie that interests me. They always needed a second movie to flesh out the world. I'm hoping that Zero gets a season two.

[@wolfmans_mazda3654]

Terminator - Genisys: You cannot polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter Terminator - Dark Fate - Yes you can polish a turd

[@jediknightjairinaiki560]

I love "Terminator Genisys".

[@kierenmoore3236]

What is wrong with you?!

[@jediknightjairinaiki560]

@@kierenmoore3236 The test results aren't back yet.

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@jediknightjairinaiki560 lol 😉 Well, I love that you love it; even if I hate it, lol.

[@thomasstudstrup5028]

Well you have shitty taste in movirs. And I bet youre 15 years old and youve never seen The Terminator. If you were older and had seen The Terminator you would hate Genisys for the abomination that it is.

[@thehackmusician]

I'm able to enjoy all of terminator movies for what they are in the right frame of mind. But obviously the first two are masterpieces.

[@rtothec1234]

This movie was very subpar and, yet, somehow its sequel managed to be much worse.