What Happened To Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines?

[@pamelahermano9298]

After Genisys and Dark Fate… maybe I judged T3 too harshly.

[@hightolerance8728]

Hahaha fr 😂😂

[@theogofguitar]

It’s ironic I always thought of 3 poorly but after watching Genesys and DF and rewatching all 3 on top of my millionth T2 watch…it’s a decent T2 movie it just literally cinematically is such a juxtaposition, and has a bit too much dumb comedy. It’s T2 lite what if judgement day still happens?!?! I feel in an alternate world where Furlong plays Connor and we don’t kill Sarah offscreen it would work better, the story itself still is meh, tX just can’t compete with 800/1000….but it’s not awful

[@Dr_1212]

Unpopular opinion but it was ok Great twist ending

[@CoolGobyFish]

you don't get an noble prize for just OK

[@Dr_1212]

@@CoolGobyFish Depends 🤣

[@RoosterMontgomery]

I don't see it as a twist but what is supposed to happen. John and Skynet cannot exist without one another. Like the Terminator said: "Judgment Day is inevitable."

[@Abrakadabro666]

​@CoolGobyFish why does it need to win a Nobel prize?

[@piloto88ed]

T3 and T6 are the worst of the saga.

[@JR-uy2nd]

I like T3. It is not a masterpiece like T1 and T2, but it is a good and fun action movie from the yearly 2000s.

[@rig-zag]

Funny this gets uploaded on a day when the machines have brought worldwide airline travel, hospitals and emergency services to its knees 😂

[@volksaddict]

Thinking the same thing

[@richardhoehn9922]

Yuppers. It's Skynet preparing to take over ha ha!

[@richardblack3385]

What happened

[@lopiklop]

I think it's just a coincidence and what they really did was rip off some smaller youtuber. and now "WhAt HaPpEnEd tO TeRmInAtoR 3" is just making it's way around the website. I'm sure if you do a search you'll find more than one was recently uploaded. I think what happens is once you get to certain level of success you no longer are being creative to do so and maintaining that success deprives you of any time to be creative so they just look to the people who are actually passionate about things and desperately copy their work to stay afloat.

[@mcs68419]

Huh? What are you talking about?

[@attackofthetheeyecreatures3472]

Linda Hamilton read the script and was unimpressed. That sums up the audience's reaction.

[@mikesteelheart]

But she was willing to do all the 10x worse new ones for a paycheck?

[@RoodeMenon]

@@mikesteelheart Time changes people's lives.

[@r4umediaentertainment831]

I went to see this in a movie theater, despite my concern over no James Cameron, which was reg flag #1. Red flag #2 showed up only about two minutes into the movie, when all of those unconvincing CGI T-800’s walked onscreen. And then came all of that ridiculous humor that felt completely out of place, on top of the writers turning John Connor into kind of a little bitch. Honestly, the only good thing in the story that was well-executed and felt tonally consistent with the previous two films was the ending scene, which felt like it belonged (and deserved to be) in another movie altogether, and a better one at that.

[@attackofthetheeyecreatures3472]

@r4umediaentertainment831 I 100% agree. I was a bit younger but a huge fan of the original because I liked slasher movies, and of course, I liked T2. But I just couldn't put my finger on what I disliked about T3 until years later. You summed up my thoughts damn near exactly.

[@sidearmsalpha]

@@mikesteelheart Exactly! Even Cameron was involved with that POS movie! I enjoyed T3 and regretted not catching it on the big screen. It's not without its faults but that's more than I can say for Dark Fate, which I seriously wanted my money back for.

[@danielskrivan6921]

I think T3 is a fun movie. It's much better than everything that followed it. It's just not as good as the first two.

[@worsethanhitlerpt.2539]

T3 is terrible just a prime example of the early 2000s PG-rated crap movies. Its not just irrelevant in the series (I know all the sequels are) but ushered in that era of watered down PG schlock

[@basementmma42069]

One of my biggest problems with the movie is the casting of John Connor. I just never bought him as this legendary resistance leader, and the scene showing him when he's older giving a speech makes me cringe every time.

[@Nexus9_KD6-4.8]

I felt the same. Plus the movie just couldn't match the quality of T2 overall. Not even close IMO. For me only the first two films exist.

[@ShadowBanned-o_O]

One of my biggest problems with the movie is that they made it lol. But yeah, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who cringed at that scene. Nothing compared to the T2 intro. That John Connor looked like a legit badass, and all we saw was him hold binoculars. 🤣

[@basementmma42069]

@@ShadowBanned-o_O dude seriously! All these years later it seems like such a little thing to hold on to, but it still pisses me off lol

[@johnpinneriv9958]

Tough call. I agree that "older John Connor" giving the rousing military speech made me cringe too. But for me, if you think of Nick Stahl as being a 10-years-older version of Edward Furlong, I think he totally works.

[@JaquanJackson-m9b]

​@@ShadowBanned-o_O completely unnecessary scene. If they wantd to do that scene they should have just updated the original scene from T-1. Or shit why couldn't they hire the original actor from then who played him???

[@horatiohuffnagel7978]

John Connors actor and the actresses that played his wife had zero chemistry.

[@scottyjbd]

Agreed but they weren’t supposed to have chemistry, they even mention they don’t like each other half way through the movie. The actual ‘ship would’ve likely been built up in the 4th film that never happened.

[@trickster_qc]

The downtown destruction scene is one of the best action scene of the early 2000s! In my opinion

[@unbabunga229]

Yeah it’s incredible

[@America1984]

T2 and Jurassic Park are great movies because they were perfectly written, casted and directed. The effects were just a nice bonus.

[@warsincs]

The problem after T2 being you can't top the T-1000 as a concept. Every film aside from Salvation has tried. The only answer should have been to go back to the dark horror roots and lower budget of the original.

[@RoodeMenon]

Cameron knew he had nothing for the Terminator movies after all ideas were done in T2.

[@sleazyfellow]

Exactly. Arnold did it good in T1, Patrick took it to another level in T2, and it seems after all actors just try to replay what he did.

[@MrRoboto81]

Nano machines would be an interesting concept to pursue, as that would be the most likely physical manifestation of an all out AI war on humanity. It would almost certainly see creating an army of bulky, clumsy, and easily detectable humanoid cyborgs and hulking tanks as inefficient and a waste of resources.

[@alexanderwatson1980]

@@MrRoboto81 How do you think the T-1000 worked at all? How do you think a pool of liquid metal was able to move and retain shape? Nanomachines son.

[@MrRoboto81]

@@alexanderwatson1980 but that wasn’t how it was explained in the film. They specifically said “Liquid Metal.” Nano machines weren’t even hinted at because the concept didn’t exist yet.

[@PrinceIsot]

The bleak ending got me. I expected them to find some sort of killswitch at that bunker. Then John tells Katherine what her father did, lied to them to save them.

[@davidgalinat4257]

I remember reading that the ending really did well with European audiences. While T2 was hopeful, T3 was pretty dark in its outcome. Though I would say Terminator Salvation was much darker.

[@RoosterMontgomery]

It had to end like that. T2's quasi-happy ending was ambiguous because they couldn't give us the deleted happy ending. John and Skynet cannot exist without one another in their weird, predestined paradox timeline.

[@jessemoore7081]

​@RoosterMontgomery Exactly. Either A. John would not exist, and Sarah would revert back to her pre- March 1984 self where she's a waitress without a clue. Or B. John still exists and therefore the idea of time travel manipulation is worthless, because if John's existence in the past isn't prevented, then by all accounts his existence wouldn't be wiped out in the future with Skynet's contingency plan. Thus, nobody wins in the game of timeline fuckery!!

[@PrinceIsot]

@@RoosterMontgomery lol I was about to brainlessly say "John could exist without Skynet" but they invented the time machine that lead to John Connor being born. Lol I felt dumb

[@Blast2224]

@@davidgalinat4257Terminator Salvation was only dark for Sam’s character. Bale was dreadful in that role: constantly whispering and growling, when he wasn’t whispering or growling and squinting, he was hoarsely yelling. I didn’t see John. I saw angry Bale Dark Thirty Hawk Down Harbor.

[@wstine79]

This movie had the most fun of the later sequels. The firetruck chase was creative and well executed. That Terminatix was hot. The ending came out of left field.

[@hanswurst-gp7pi]

Yes. Kristanna Loken was smoking hot!

[@WheeledHamster]

But she kept wearing her default outfit. She changed like one time.

[@davidgalinat4257]

I remember sitting in the movie theatre and going, wow, so Judgement Day actually happens.

[@RoosterMontgomery]

@@hanswurst-gp7pi In full screen, you really get to appreciate her bum bum and rack.

[@ShaneKixmiller]

Please do a video about Terminator salvation. It’s not a perfect terminator film, but it’s the future war story that I have always wanted to see. All of the sequels shoot themselves in the foot by following the formula of the original film by sending people and machines back to the past. There is an entire war going on in the future and I don’t understand why that has not been explored more in future films. Please do a video about salvation. It’s not perfect, but it is definitely underrated.

[@krs4976]

I rewatched salvation a couple of days ago , it's a solid film my only gripes are I found that giant robot a bit silly and they underused the older model Terminators. The future war definitely deserved at least one more film. Parts of Salvation reminded me of the Peter Weller film Screamers from the mid 90s.

[@MrRoboto81]

Salvation was a product of its time. On its own, it’s….not bad? But still nowhere near what it could have been. It is still far too optimistic, and the way the AI is portrayed is maddening. Why would they toss Connor around like a rag doll instead of just grab him and snap his neck? T1 perfectly captures the dark, bleak, and hopeless feeling of the war right up until the end. It would be awesome to see that atmosphere again and then have it culminate in the final battle as described by Reese.

[@Blast2224]

I can’t stand Bale in that movie not gonna lie lol

[@scottyjbd]

Easily my favorite sequel after the first 2, love Anton Yelchin

[@Mikezzz749]

Bale was my favorite part of the movie. I was so glad to see John Connor played by someone who is buff and kicks butt--Batman him freakin self! Not this dorky pathetic whiny weirdo from T-3. That was the biggest abomination. I actually wish that pretender was taken out. No way that loser could even save an ant hill, or box tops from cereal, from killer machines from the future, much less all mankind. It's just impactful that they actually made those choices for that character. Tank Girl indeed. Worthington and the kid Reese gave shaky performances. The low point of Salvation is the bad writing, and especially for Worthington's character. Other than that, the setting was cool, a break from the same old send people back in time to attack/protect was appreciated by me. I wanted to see more of the future stuff, so a step in the right direction. Also the action and visuals rank very high up with me. I saw it twice in the theaters for the good reasons and a few more times since then. And like Rocky movies make kids want to box with each other after watching them, Salvation always made me want to go fight with robots. It would probably have the same effect today!

[@jamesmorant1406]

I don't care what anyone says. I enjoyed T3 it was good fun entertainment, and Arnold Schwarzenegger was 54 and looked the way he did in T2

[@CoolGobyFish]

well. they used shit ton of make up and a wig. cause that's now how he looked in real life.

[@josephpeoples2621]

​​@@CoolGobyFish Makeup is pretty standard in movies, but calling Arnold's hair a wig is hilarious. Gonna need proof that it was a wig

[@josephpeoples2621]

@@CoolGobyFish Two weeks later, and still no proof, huh? Good to know

[@coldvoid]

T3 is not so bad. I love the chase scene.

[@djrommybalibalita5747]

I thought T3 was amazing when it came out in theaters. Compared to dark fate which weirdly resembled a Netflix original film. Plus dark fate had a budget of 200 million. Thats wild.

[@Bonn1770]

Connor declined? Wow Linda Hamilton stayed in character for 10 years, that's dedication!

[@christianlucas7656]

ha i caught that too

[@jamesconroy7030]

Yeah, I noticed that too.

[@ethanchosdad-xh9ih]

Explain please

[@jamesconroy7030]

@@ethanchosdad-xh9ih At about 8:57 the narrator says Connor instead of Linda Hamilton. Confusing the character's name for the actress.

[@ethanchosdad-xh9ih]

@@jamesconroy7030thank you. 😅

[@hstleny]

Real Terminator fans know...there are no movies that matter after T2.

[@TheLoneDrow22]

He came back a few times to many.

[@Steef_Lee]

Nah T3 is highly underrated and the really REAL fans know it

[@carn5haun343]

Salvation is underrated

[@ZachFazio-v3y]

@@Steef_Lee not true. T3 is a bad parody of T2. Real fans would have much higher standards for a beloved franchise. Not just let them bad jokes at the wall and call it a Terminator film. They don't even play the Terminator theme until the end credits. Good car chase. Enjoyed the attempt at the dark ending. But it's a bad parody film at best.

[@scootermann83]

I see your point and mostly agree, however I do find 3 to be mostly enjoyable. Things got strange after that

[@SonCarlosH]

I have a major soft spot for T3 because I saw it in the cinema in Ireland with a packed crowd. My father and I are huge Arnie fans and this was the 1st time we saw a Terminator film in the cinema together. The movie isn't perfect but the experience still sticks with me all these years later 😊

[@edwardsanchez3708]

Arnold would say "consider your assets liquidated"

[@MrStevenskiChan]

It's actually Schwarzenegger who spoils this movie. Like he completely forgot how to play the Terminator. His 'humorous' scenes are absolutely awful.

[@jumpedintheriverwhatdidise5499]

I agree. But how could he actually say talk to the hand without it being utterly ridiculous. So there is blame with the writing too. The whole tone was just wrong.

[@Elgreasyburrito650]

That's the best part😂 hearing those terrible jokes and one liners is hilarious

[@williamshoven]

Pulling off the stories of every Terminator movie is difficult, things had to be perfect. T1 & T2 did everything perfect. The other movies not so much, so they feel like parodies of the first 2.

[@TheMikadoOfLondon]

Not nearly as much as the narrator's way of speaking spoils this video.

[@305Spartin]

Talk to tha hand 🤖 🤚

[@shepherd2148]

I really love t3. I acknowledge that it has flaws and isn't as good as the first two, but I've always been really positive on it and enjoy watching it. And it's a masterpiece compared to dark fate

[@NeedlessJ93]

Hey man, this is my company car. You better have insurance! 💥

[@zogzoogler]

T2 was always about ‘family’, Fast and the Furious showed us that this could be the centre of action films. T3 with Linda Hamilton and James Cameron could have been dire or totally mind blowing given that they had just got divorced in 1999 - imagine the tension and anger onset.

[@andrewgardner8972]

It’s good that it was filmed and set in Los Angeles like the first two. Because that’s a terminator movie. And not Vancouver Canada. That’s a place to substitute for setting in Seattle, Washington or Minnesota in other movies not terminator. Who the hell ever heard of a terminator movie filmed in Vancouver, Canada? Honestly Arnold made the right decision with Los Angeles, California.

[@JustinLesamiz]

Anybody that actually lives in Seattle Isn't buying Vancouver for Seattle. They look nothing alike.

[@Scruffy-LookingNerfHerder]

The problem with T3 was the tone. The story is quite good, I think, but the tone is just all wrong. It's too bright and colorful and is too lighthearted. Too much of it takes place in the day. The strip club scene was ill conceived.

[@cjewe1z]

'Dumbed down' in every way would be the description. The first two films were famous for being shot mostly at night, which gave them a dark tone without making the subject matter dark.

[@jasonlee186]

That unexpected ending in T3 was actually pretty well written. But the entire film lacks the edge that Cameron brought to the table. The actors aren’t bad at all but just not believable in this whatsoever. And that convo in the back of the truck about meeting at a party was so lame. It takes me out of the film every time.

[@JustinLesamiz]

If they aren't believable, they're bad by definition. But the badness was on the part of casting, not the actors themselves.

[@jasonlee186]

@@JustinLesamiz I meant the actors on their own aren’t bad. I like them in every other role except T3.

[@cjewe1z]

Yes. The sequels are all decent action films, but they had nothing innovative as Cameron does in every one of his films.

[@krs4976]

I rewatched T3 last week and had exactly the same opinion I've always held it's a very mediocre film with a fantastic ending

[@dkblahblah9168]

I own a mold of Arnolds chin from this film. (From the later scene of the plane crash) To my movie collector friend who is now in his final rest, know I thank and love you brother for giving me a cherished gift.

[@thechannelformerlyknownasp8111]

I unironically love this movie. It’s my 2nd favorite Terminator film, and I rewatch it regularly. It’s a blast. Sure, it doesn’t live up to T2, but T2 is one of the greatest action movies ever.

[@Tmbweed]

Not a bad moive at all. Seen a couple of times, love it. Can't be compared to the first two but on its own it's a good one.

[@richardhoehn9922]

I like that: "Strange but watchable." That sums it up well. I liked the little bits of "Arnold humor" scattered throughout the film, and perhaps T3 does make a certain amount of sense as a conclusion to the trilogy. Kristanna Loken really nails it as the TX.

[@demonteprice5870]

I will say that I take this over Dark Fate, sorry Linda.

[@kodiekulp]

I just never understood why John Conner was working or even houseless considering the ATM pin reader from part 2

[@JustinLesamiz]

He was intentionally living off the grid. It's very clearly explained in the movie.

[@kodiekulp]

@JustinLesamiz working construction to get money , you right. I'd be holding on to my ATM pin reader though, wearing a mask at the ATM. I always thought an interesting plot thread to explore would be the "skin camps", the ones Kyle Reece mentions, that Skynet farms humans to create the t-800s after the rubber skin(600s I think?). Make a prisonbreak type of film. 3 main characters(you never learn any of therenames, they just call each other by their prison number). They decide to try to break out, knowing it's hopeless because it's a skynet prison. 2 of the main characters die during the escape. Near the end of the film, the last character is alive but he is screwed. Skynet is right on his ass knowing he is eacaping. And right when he is about to be mowed down by the machines, the machine just stops. And it's because the resistance showed up. The resistance makes the hopeless prison break possible. At the end , after the main character is safe and brought to the resistence base, someone who looks a bir familiar walks up and asks the main character name. "Kyle Reece" End scene Roll credits.

[@carloscardona3924]

Watching it on 4K right now Bad ass.

[@JustinLesamiz]

No you aren't. There isn't a 4K version of the movie.

[@Blondie472]

This is the fun one. With the darkest ending. Oh the irony.

[@JustinLesamiz]

Industrial Light and Magic and Stan Winston had no direction connection, even though they did work on some of the same films, albeit separately.

[@C.A._Old]

*you know what? nowdays nobody talks about T2 alternative ending.*

[@dashtoroya2838]

Yeah because that ending was supposed to end the saga. But the studio wanted to change the scene to keep the franchise open, while making a sequel to T2 is a mistake. T3 and T4 are decent. T5 and T6 are awful.

[@C.A._Old]

*i will tell you: if there is no james cameron: there is no sequels or prequels for Terminator Series.*

[@rolandoalvarado2979]

The end scene and the dialogue is best in all 3 movies

[@thumpyloudfoot864]

Fun Fact: The Terminator franchise is a trilogy, The Terminator - Terminator 2: Judgement Day (and the ride at Universal Studios is technically canon) - Terminator Resistance (Enhanced) (video game)... and back around again, in a loop.... Everything else is just fever dreams and hallucinations Kyle Reese experiences while time traveling,....

[@cjewe1z]

That's a genius way to erase those shit sequels from our memories forever.

[@KeithWhatshisname]

I actually loved this film. It was a truly popcorned, action-packed, silly, interesting high-stakes plot with a doomed 70s sci-fi styled ending. It didn't seem like they were just trying to poop it out, unlike the last clinically un-fun Terminator movie.

[@hashtagfilm]

I enjoy Terminator 3 and 4, but I honestly view all of the sequels as alternate universes. T2 was such a great full circle ending to the first. No more movies were needed

[@MarzooqPrimal416]

Edward furlong,Linda Hamilton,Chyna ? I wanna watch that T3

[@wstine79]

"Talk to the hand." Hand ✋️ 😎

[@richardhoehn9922]

I do like using the gif of Arnold in the convenience store doing this talk to the hand!

[@BusyMEOW]

LOL! That was so cringey.. 😂

[@MASO204]

Worst scene in the whole franchise, 2nd is the star glasses. 3rd making Arnie look like a bargain buy T2 version of himself, should of gave him a new and better look

[@Beastinvader]

I loved it as a kid. The T 1000 is legit terrifying in how she fights, how she controls other machines, and how she looked at the end with her skin torn off.

[@xdarkjimmyx]

I liked it a lot! It cannot be compared to T2, but it was really entertaining!

[@TheMajorBlazer]

What's the matta? Joblo got you pushing too many videos?

[@cjewe1z]

Are you referring to the drop in the quality of films being reviewed?

[@TheMajorBlazer]

​​@@cjewe1z it's an Arnie/Dutch quote from Predator...

[@cjewe1z]

@@TheMajorBlazer Yeah, I remember. He said it to the Apollo Creed actor, right?

[@TheMajorBlazer]

@@cjewe1z yes, Carl Weathers, also, the reviewer implies he's getting tired of this shit so I figured the line applied to his situation

[@cjewe1z]

@@TheMajorBlazer My original interpretation still applies. The quality of the films being reviewed have dropped in recent times.

[@Redthepunkrocker]

After Terminator 2 they couldn't capture the same magic in any of the films in my opinion

[@worsethanhitlerpt.2539]

Everything sucked in 2003 esp. movies like T3

[@arkinrain5758]

For me, it's T1, T2, and Salvation. Salvation is the only film that's entirely in the future war. And Anton Yelchin was a very sincere Kyle Reese and one of my favorite actors of all time, RIP. Sure it has issues, but at least it wasn't a complete retread of T2 like T3 was. It tried to bring something new to the table and i honestly really appreciate it.

[@logangodofcandy]

Anton didn't have the future apocalypse PTSD act that he should have had. He was just a casual apocalypse bro.

[@JustinLesamiz]

Anton was great in general, but he was so incredibly wrong for Kyle Reese. He never feels like Reese even once.

[@cjewe1z]

@@JustinLesamiz By all accounts, Yelcin is a good actor. But, he didn't have the gravitas of Biehn.

[@dashtoroya2838]

Nah Salvation is worse then T3. it exists on the things T1, T2 and T3 created, there was no sense of tensions and stakes, it's just a scene to scene action gameplay with no proper connection. Plus Christian bale purposely sabotaged playing John Conner he wasn't interested in playing the character.

[@GisherJohn24]

3 Gets a lot of grief, but still better than any of Terminator movies released since... It actually is a super fun watch. Mostow needs more credit for it. I love the car chase scene of the remote controlled police cars... Only issue I had with it was the character of John Connor, he kinda became a wimp of sorts... It doesn't match his future character being a great military leader...

[@davidgalinat4257]

Agreed. I think its main failure was that it comes off as a ripoff of T2 without the groundbreaking effects. The bleak ending doesn't help either.

[@CoolGobyFish]

Salvation was better because it didn't have the stupid humor and took itself seriously

[@CoolGobyFish]

@@davidgalinat4257 bleack doesn't jive with the comedy tone of majority of the movie

[@michaelblaine6494]

The word is “relegated” not regulated,that’s gotta be the fifth time I’ve heard that mistake but it’s an easy one to make and I’m sure I’ve made worse ones

[@cwrichardson3]

Ok Merrium

[@cwrichardson3]

Ok Merrium

[@cnefti]

👍👍 I went to watch LOTR The two towers opening weekend just to watch the T3 trailer in the big screen.

[@NeoConnor1]

Hoped you also enjoyed The Two Towers though.

[@cnefti]

@@NeoConnor1 I loved and remember the movie theater experience! Id accredit the T3 trailer in making me a fan of the LOTR movies in my teens lol

[@michaelloehman7939]

I love this movie! T2 is still my favorite of the series, but this movie was awesome. Great video! 👍

[@wolfbro82]

The film caught fire for us when the casket scene happened in the theater

[@foxdavani4091]

Where were there so many scenes where the camera zooms into someone’s face???? God each camera zooms was uncomfortable.

[@sagelight7777]

Arnold didn't do any of the stunts on the crane, it's 90 percent cg double and 10 percent stuntman. All of Arnold's shots were green screen close ups. From t2 onwards arnold actually rarely did his stunts but for press etc he would claim to. True lies is the best example where Jamie Lee Curtis was actually hanging from the helicopter on a wire but arnold was not even on the helicopter. Don't believe press my friend. Remember tom cruise saying maverick will have no cgi 😅

[@jimcameron1234]

All True!

[@alexprinsrealestateagent1263]

I couldn’t get into this movie. The story was fine, but the cast sucked, the esthetic was off, and it just felt disjointed from the first two. I wish James Cameron would have come back to direct this movie. It had potential.

[@RoodeMenon]

The aesthetic was most certainly off.

[@Jewtang]

Bet me too it​@@RoodeMenon

[@nothing-oj1sz]

You called Linda Hamilton”Connor”.

[@s1x6x1s]

it was a good film, not great, but good. yes, some of the dialogue were cheesy. (case in point, i hate the fact that every T films after T2 (except Salvation) always tried to recreate the iconic "i'll be back" phrase.) and yes, the recast of John Connor because of Edward Furlong's issues and the absence of Linda Hamilton were a major downer. but the story was good and it had an appropriate--if not perfect--ending. everything comes full circle. John Connor was always meant to lead the human resistance out of the ashes.

[@s1x6x1s]

11:01 Kristanna Loken, not Christiana Loken my man

[@tigmil8116]

I liked nick as John conner... like he just looks more like he could come from Kyle's sack. I like Edward don't get it twisted, but he doesn't look like either parent

[@joshshin6819]

Arnold and his determination for body perfection even at 55 is def something to admire. That man wasn't wrong at all about how bad you and everyone else would of judged him if he was CGIed at all or had even a little sag on an arm.

[@raulzavala9061]

I saw it in a packed theater and I loved it, the fun part was recognizing many of the LA streets where the chase took place.

[@andrealbrecht1203]

„Rise of the machines“ is the best of the three Terminator 3s

[@Blast2224]

I remember being 10 and needing my Dad to explain after that the Terminator had failed and we were all dead. It was a ballsy and BLEAK ending to go with, and really reflected American 2003: We were in Iraq and Afghanistan doing things that would affect us in 2008 and beyond into 2012 and even 2016. We were concerned with Britney Spears, diet culture, chasing real estate, and insulting each other while literal world ending factors hung in balance. The Terminatrix killing on the streets of Rodeo Dr. was a great metaphor. We were covered with materialism and glamour and judgement of each other not knowing destruction was at the door.

[@byronherrera777]

T3 would have worked if it was made & released in 1997. 💯

[@TheMetalAllfather]

Arnold saying he's going to "Liquidate someone's assets" makes him sound like the most bad ass accountant ever.

[@joshuarichard6827]

Accountant

[@TheMetalAllfather]

@@joshuarichard6827 didn't see that until now.

[@normster9871]

I really enjoyed T3 and i still enjoy it today. Also the cast for Connor was not the best, its story and action made him a really good sequel to the first two classics. Yeah not on the same highd, but very good. After the following different stories in the franchise they they must go back to the dark, gritty, horror-look of the first movie. Thats what they had lost in the franchise, in my opinion... They have to go away from Connor and Skynet and show us a new story.

[@featherguardian6023]

I still think this is an Underrated Movie, sure it has Glaws and to me it’s an Alternate Universe, there’s Good Stuff in it that overpowers the Bad.

[@remixstore390]

I love rise of the machines

[@chrislaustin]

While this movie was never going to match the first two overall, I'm happy to include it in the series and call it a trilogy. Of course this was a major cash grab, as nothing here needed to be said, but so long as a sequel adds to what came before and not crap over the past, I'm fine with it. And this movie more than added to John's back story, and I thought the ending here was the best of the three. And of course we got a "female" Terminator, as that was the next logical step, and while there was zero reason to make her a woman, she did a great job and held her own. Overall this was a solid effort, nothing amazing, but nothing terrible either.

[@unbabunga229]

It’s an amazing action film, it’s just not a terminator sequel. If it was just a generic Arny film, it’d be a classic

[@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891]

Since Terminator Franchise is all about time travel, I consider any movies after T2 as just another Multiverse or another Timeline...

[@PandemonicHypercube]

This is the way I think about all the movies after the first one, and to some extent about the first one, but not so much because of the relative merits of each movie. The future is not set, so there are lots of timelines that result from different aborted timelines sending people and Terminators back. Terminator 1 probably isn't the original, pristine timeline either, because it seems likely that the John Connor that sent that particular iteration of Kyle Reese back, knew that Kyle was his father. Why else would he give him a photograph of Sarah? That seems like a very random thing to do otherwise. Since the original John Connor couldn't have been fathered by someone from the future, we can probably assume that there was a John Connor that was fathered by someone else, who sent a Kyle Reese back, who then became John's father in an altered timeline. The TV series played with these ideas a lot.

[@InimicusSolitus]

Stan Winston did not own ILM. That was George Lucas, before Disney.

[@Basicshape4242]

So true. He must have mis-spoke as we all know it was George Lucas that owned ILM at the time. Now it's a Disney prize. Stan was the founder of Stan Winston Studio.

[@TimeisReel]

That Crane Chase was... Amazing

[@TasmanianTigerGrrr]

It was over the top stupid

[@dvdmrtn1981]

I'll tell you what happened. They tried to make it whimsy and funny. They ruined the tone of the original 2 movies

[@LAZERZ-OP]

Absolutely love this movie! Some might call it a guilty pleasure film but I think it deserves more credit than that

[@IcyRobin]

I actually enjoyed this movie

[@AtelierOfWeebs]

T3 got the Joss whedon treatment, a director makes a great movie that gets changed in the editing room and ends up like a weird boring mess

[@cjewe1z]

How do you know? Is there a director's cut?

[@AtelierOfWeebs]

@@cjewe1z unfortunately no, I red it, there were a lot of production issues with that movie

[@cjewe1z]

@@AtelierOfWeebs If your saying that or got changed in the editing suite then there must be a director's cut or at least the footage to produce a director's cut. Mostow isn't on the level of Cameron but he's a lot better than the directors of the later films.

[@coomtothebroom778]

I remember when T3 came out and it was one of the big movies of ‘03 (which had some bangers like LotR: RotK, Lost in Translation, and Freddy vs Jason). Not my favorite entry in the series but it’s fun for what it was. Would’ve been glad to have the series end here but I prefer the cautiously optimistic ending of T2.

[@TeachReads]

The T2 trilogy of books (starting with 'T2 - Infiltrator') was actually pretty good. Would have made a better story than T3. I have the audiobook of the novel on my channel.

[@knotz909]

8:55 "connor declined" xD

[@dlaimer]

She was unimpressed with the script ;)

[@inebrihated13]

Sarah Connor declined to play Linda Hamilton 😂

[@adam7365yy]

Always have a soft spot for it cause it was the first of the franchise i seen in the cinema but still still madness that arnold is in that shape at 55 in this and still as big as he is in the next 2 he was in. Guy is an actual machine

[@Sam-wc7uo]

In my mind, there’s only Terminator 1 & 2

[@aScannerdarkly88]

I remember seeing this when I was 14 in theaters and loved it.

[@anthony7564]

The sunglasses scene got laughs in the theater, it was an effective sight gag for a first-watch of the movie. Mirroring the rest of the film unfortunately, that scene and T3 didn't have much rewatchability unless you were deeply invested in Terminator worldbuilding lore

[@FixitAde]

I totally disagree about the comedy, any humorous moments in T2 were bred out of the situation of a terminator encountering human traits and behaviours and trying to understand them, they were subtle and not self conscious. The humour in T3 was tacky, cheap and it poked fun at the character and the franchise, it was merely a spoof

[@adamcampos7157]

Interesting connection. Break Down & Terminator 3 both had scenes on 7th street in Victorville. Jonathan Mostow must have an admiration for the area 😅

[@benjaminwright1633]

They spent 170 million on T3?!?! But then acolyte they spent 180 million

[@chumorgan443]

I was bad... awfull , even. We had no idea it could get worse.

[@Bluboy30]

For a film that has such a huge budget, I thought the action scenes lack the big scope that Cameron were able to achieved in the first two films. I didn't hate this one, it's entertaining but forgettable.

[@jacobsendejo8788]

The proper satisfying way to watch the Terminator franchise is: The Terminator Terminator 2: Judgement Day Terminator: Salvation (Director's Cut) You get 3 films that tell a full circle story and each are a different genre, sci-fi horror, action/adventure, and war drama.

[@AlexWalkerSmith]

I remember my friends and I ragging on this movie when it came out, but we watched it quite a bit anyway. Had we only known that every installment after that would be absolutely terrible, we wouldn't have bullies T3 quite so much. You could watch the first 2 and be fine, but if you're aching for a little more, T3 is a good epilogue.

[@negativeindustrial]

Toyota also sponsored the movie and even made a special edition of their popular T-100 pickup truck with Arnold’s face on the side.

[@c1rca23]

The Toyota T-100 ceased production in 1998. This movie came out it in 2003. And it was not popular.

[@CSS-Tails_Forever]

It was still a fun sequel tbh

[@leonwalker9457]

The “cheaper Vancouver” sounds hilarious….Wish that was the case

[@restoredandrecovered7380]

It’s an okay film. It’s just not great like the first two.

[@paulgutierrez6416]

I didn't think it was a bad movie, weakest of the original trilogy, at least they didn't kill off John Connor.

[@raheemhamilton8624]

Wow Arnold wanted Chyna for the TX 100

[@christianlucas7656]

Always liked T3, definitely entertaining. Unlike the films after it which I cant even watch. The crane sequence is insane.