What happens if you romance Shadowheart then wipe her memory?

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DragonsDream

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@ilcapitano648
@ilcapitano648 2 ай бұрын
The fact that you have to option to sell her out knowing full well she’ll be mind-wiped, and then still have the option to guilt trip her for forgetting you, is top tier gaslighting.
@TheGingiGamer
@TheGingiGamer 2 ай бұрын
And straight up evil
@redgraves4030
@redgraves4030 2 ай бұрын
Best option
@Xenolithial
@Xenolithial 2 ай бұрын
I honestly thought they'd kill her, not mind wipe her
@ilcapitano648
@ilcapitano648 2 ай бұрын
@@Xenolithial i guess it depends how thoroughly they brainwash her. She knows all of Shar’s teachings, is trained in Shar’s arts and, by this point in the game, is probably one of the strongest warriors in Faerun. If they do it right they’ve got a hell of a follower on their hands.
@Xenolithial
@Xenolithial 2 ай бұрын
@@ilcapitano648 oh no arguments here, mindwiping her was probably the smart move asset wise I just assumed they'd drag her off and kill her lol. I've never turned her over to them yet so I would have been surprised that she was kept alive, but it makes more sense that she was Puts her up there with Astarion and Lae'zel for most tragic/horrifying potential endings
@MordredArkwright
@MordredArkwright 2 ай бұрын
Her not recognizing the Night Orchid hit hard
@Zaxares
@Zaxares 2 ай бұрын
Indeed. The fact that she doesn't remember them this time around makes me suspect that, unlike the previous time where part of her resisted the Mirror trying to consume her memories (which is why she still remembers fragments of her past like the night she was kidnapped, Nocturne and the Night Orchids), this time she willingly surrendered all her memories, possibly because your betrayal was just too much for her to bear. :(
@Snekonic
@Snekonic 2 ай бұрын
@@Zaxares OH MY GOD THAT IS SO SAD. STOP
@LonarYolhala
@LonarYolhala 2 ай бұрын
She's could be honest here - she doesn't have a favorite flower. She told you that it was back then, because she wanted you to feel appreciated for giving her one. She told you a comforting lie then, and now she has no memory of saying it, so she has no reason to pretend otherwise.
@Snekonic
@Snekonic 2 ай бұрын
@@LonarYolhala ''She told you that it was back then, because she wanted you to feel appreciated for giving her one'' this is false. She says this far before you even get near any night orchids, let alone giving her one.
@DragonsDream
@DragonsDream 2 ай бұрын
​@@Zaxares damn, I'm so sorry 😢
@lordcaedus8713
@lordcaedus8713 2 ай бұрын
This is a certified “delete campaign and start again” moment.
@eugenmihaigiurea3291
@eugenmihaigiurea3291 28 күн бұрын
Or just hear me out: if not playing on honour mode just upload a previous saving, I do that shit all the time that things don't go the way I want
@lordcaedus8713
@lordcaedus8713 28 күн бұрын
@ it’s less of me being serious, and more of a “how could you do this to my bae” statement. Hyperbole if you will.
@eugenmihaigiurea3291
@eugenmihaigiurea3291 28 күн бұрын
@@lordcaedus8713 yeah I kinda get what you saying. That shi straight up despicable behavior
@irgendwer3610
@irgendwer3610 17 күн бұрын
I mean, if you let Viconia wipe her memory than that's on you
@sirducksworthythe3rd842
@sirducksworthythe3rd842 10 күн бұрын
Nope id continue if did this, cause consequences and all
@golemofflesh3953
@golemofflesh3953 2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of something Ethel said. Without our pasts, we could be anyone.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 ай бұрын
Losing all your memories is half way to dying, all you have left is your personality and no knowlage of why you are the way you are.
@theworstcatholic7247
@theworstcatholic7247 2 ай бұрын
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Even less. A great deal of one's personality is shaped by experience. All that'd be left is your instinctive traits that you got from genes.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 ай бұрын
@@theworstcatholic7247 About 20% is expierience but thats not going alway. You dont remember what your childhood was like yet it still shapes what youre like. So too if you get amnesia your personality changes a bit but not by much, youre still you you just dont know why you are the way you are.
@theworstcatholic7247
@theworstcatholic7247 2 ай бұрын
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 I think you underestimate how much experience changes a person. The most calm and reasonable person you know could naturally have a terrible temper, but through experience learned to control it. A joyful person could naturally have a stoic disposition but learned to let loose due to tragic circumstances. You may not remember your early years, but your subconscious does, and this full amnesia that SH has doesn't even seem to have that remain.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 ай бұрын
@@theworstcatholic7247 Youre expieriences change how the neurons in your brain are set up. Amnesia takes out the payways which enable you to recall past events. It does not change the patways which say how you will respond to a given stimulus when memory plays no part in your response.
@SpeedNinge
@SpeedNinge 2 ай бұрын
the night orchi one broke me. You can put a night orchid on a grave and shadowheart is thankful, now she just doesnt know what youre talking about, she loves night orchids
@Victoria-_
@Victoria-_ 2 ай бұрын
It broke me heart!
@SpeedNinge
@SpeedNinge 2 ай бұрын
@@Victoria-_ yes
@goldendew5759
@goldendew5759 2 ай бұрын
Wait what??? Where can you do that??
@SpeedNinge
@SpeedNinge 2 ай бұрын
@@goldendew5759 I dont know where per se but i know that a grave exists in act 3 which makes shadowheart feel sad and this person was some kind of trainer for her and if you put a night orchid on it, she says something
@xTwilightWolvesx
@xTwilightWolvesx 2 ай бұрын
I think she actually lost *all* of her memories, even her ones with Nocturne, since her memories with Nocturne are the reason why Night Orchids are her favourite. I think she lost the will to fight back against the mind-wipe, this time around.
@Daniel-bd8ot
@Daniel-bd8ot 2 ай бұрын
You know you messed up when Shadowheart's №1 hater Lae'Zel disapproves
@senittoaoflightning4404
@senittoaoflightning4404 2 ай бұрын
She doesn't hate really Shadowheart, it's the other way around (at least early on, they grow on eachother), Lae'zel just gives back what she gets.
@KollbjornYT
@KollbjornYT 2 ай бұрын
@@senittoaoflightning4404 YES! Finally someone else is pointing that out
@Synfang
@Synfang 2 ай бұрын
@@senittoaoflightning4404 Yeah, see, this is a reason I don't like Shadowheart as much as most players seem to. Call me biased if you want, because I'm definitely guilty of being a Lae'zel fan, but aside from Astarion's introduction and the meeting of Wyll & Karlach, Shadowheart is easily the most antagonistic in regard to infighting and such for a very large chunk of the game, and I could never get past this attitude enough to see why she's (I think) the most romanced party member.
@theworstcatholic7247
@theworstcatholic7247 2 ай бұрын
@@Synfang Cause she's the most conventionally attractive. That's why she's the most romanced. Gamers are pretty simple in that way, no shade meant, as I am one of them, but it is what it is.
@Megawaps
@Megawaps 2 ай бұрын
Why is it highlighted?
@Palumtra
@Palumtra 2 ай бұрын
You know a choice is messed up when even Minthara, a lolth-sworn drow of House Baenre from Menzoberranzan says that you shouldn't really be doing it. Romancing Shadowheart, setting her on the good path and then ratting her out to the cult is one of the hardest hitting backstab in gaming history, and this "post" scene is there to give a final twist to the already deep cutting knife.
@mayaraqueiroz1849
@mayaraqueiroz1849 2 ай бұрын
Sh!t, mate. That hurts 💔💔
@fistan5447
@fistan5447 2 ай бұрын
There's another. After betraying Nightsong to Lorroakan, you can persuade Isobel to come to her rescue, just to kill her. Nightsong has to watch her lover die, betrayed by the hand of someone she thought was her friend. And she fucking loses it. This bloody game has ALOT of very evil choises. I generally like evil characters, Sith in SW for example, but man this game takes it to whole another level. Had to watch youtube videos of those choises because i never could click those dialogue options while i was playing, even if i was curious about this game's reactivitiy.
@Palumtra
@Palumtra 2 ай бұрын
@@fistan5447 "Murderhobo is the most evil there is" Uh-uh......look at this mate, these are fates worse than death.....
@Nuisance_Bear
@Nuisance_Bear 2 ай бұрын
Well why the hell not? Minthara is literally evil, like that’s her alignment. She should be totally fine with this
@fistan5447
@fistan5447 2 ай бұрын
@@Nuisance_Bear pointless cruelty just to appease a god/her chosen by literally sacrificing your own companion? If you dont see the problem here, i dont think you payed any attention to anything Minthara said.
@Ryudegan
@Ryudegan 2 ай бұрын
“Whoever you think I am… I’m not her” Wow that hurt, and it’s true, the Shadowheart you knew and loved is gone and only her shell remains and it’s your fault
@Grim_Bud
@Grim_Bud 2 ай бұрын
Now you can make her fall for you all over again.
@flipChoco2283
@flipChoco2283 2 ай бұрын
the "sorry for watching" 😭😭😭
@annas_core
@annas_core 2 ай бұрын
"The memories you shared with her will die with you" That line had no right to hit this hard
@goqgleit
@goqgleit 2 ай бұрын
Oh this hurt. This hurt a lot. 😭
@alessandrogarofalo9951
@alessandrogarofalo9951 2 ай бұрын
I didn't even know this existed. I mean, how could someone even have the guts to betray her? YOU MONSTER!😢
@ovencake523
@ovencake523 2 ай бұрын
I did it just to see what would happen before reloading
@kairaaitken938
@kairaaitken938 2 ай бұрын
If you can reload the save then technically it was never done
@MedioCore
@MedioCore 2 ай бұрын
The Vine Thud at 1:51 was amazing.
@Jesusisking007
@Jesusisking007 2 ай бұрын
bro 💀💀💀
@shirouthehero696
@shirouthehero696 Ай бұрын
“Shadowheart disapproves” Not for long, apparently 💀
@pattymelt5825
@pattymelt5825 2 ай бұрын
The only thing that would've made this worse is if they dyed her hair back to black
@whinywonu
@whinywonu 2 ай бұрын
a little bit of time and her hair will grow back black. so it is inevitable in a way
@kintaro1851
@kintaro1851 2 ай бұрын
I think it's even worse without that. Because that way, you see how much she had changed. That she had sworn of Shar. And then you betrayed her.
@Pikaton659
@Pikaton659 2 ай бұрын
@@kintaro1851 Yeah, it’s much worse this way
@brittahasnofilter
@brittahasnofilter 2 ай бұрын
@@whinywonui didn’t know she’d dyed it, i thought it was like… turned white by moon power or something
@whinywonu
@whinywonu 2 ай бұрын
@@brittahasnofilteriirc, she says that she remembers ways to use some herbs to do so and went for it overnight. so yes, her hair is dyed 🫶🏻
@DrAhzek
@DrAhzek 2 ай бұрын
The worst crime of all - purging someone's mind. You could have just kill her, not much difference given this is no longer Shadowheart. The only more cruel fate is probably lobotomy to make a slave/servitor of sorts.
@frostkitsunelive7661
@frostkitsunelive7661 2 ай бұрын
So Minthara's fate if you don't save her.
@claudiaiuliana493
@claudiaiuliana493 Ай бұрын
1:49 “I think you must have me mistaken for someone with no taste” 💀
@mryoung6090
@mryoung6090 Ай бұрын
Oomf
@Rishi26007
@Rishi26007 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations on having the guts to physically make those choices. I know I wouldn't be able to.
@DragonsDream
@DragonsDream 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, but I honestly hate myself while making this video, I'm even considering not to post it because it's just too damn cruel for her :(
@drago3036
@drago3036 Ай бұрын
​@@DragonsDreamYou did it. Stand proud, you are strong
@a.trance6997
@a.trance6997 2 ай бұрын
The vine boom caught me off guard lmao.
@blackmoon2128
@blackmoon2128 2 ай бұрын
thanks for recording this, because I could never do this.
@Artrysa
@Artrysa 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate videos like this a lot. Gives me the opportunity to see all the scenes Larion worked on that I'd never get to see otherwise :)
@mr_jyggalag
@mr_jyggalag 2 ай бұрын
As Shadowmancer, this is one thing that breaks my heart. It's one of the wickedest things that you can do in the game. To help someone to be better, to support them as their partner, only to then, on the final chapter of the story, stab them in the back. And her words, how she isn't able to recognize you... usually, after Viconia whipped her memory, there was something. There's still a small piece of Shadowheart remaining, I think, but it's burried deep down, and I suspect it would not be able to emerge again. The next over-the-top wicked thing is to help Shadowheart save her parents and then to kill them
@Alzrozax
@Alzrozax 2 ай бұрын
Honestly the fact that the devs went the extra mile to include dialogue with her memory erased is something else, 80% of game devs today would never do something like that good job larian
@madreel8938
@madreel8938 2 ай бұрын
"Sorry for watching" Yup! me too, mate
@danielsword4629
@danielsword4629 2 ай бұрын
This. This is why people fear Shar in universe
@TheBayzent
@TheBayzent Ай бұрын
The fact their priesthood can release living shadows that can kill you, she has developed a new paralell magic system that has any magic defense derived from Mystra useless and that her plane is by far one of the most hostile places for living people may also have something to do...everything the Shadowfell touches becomes Silent Hill but worse.
@Nuisance_Bear
@Nuisance_Bear 2 ай бұрын
This just in. When someone’s memory is erased, they don’t remember anything. Wtf did Tav expect???
@fudgemuffins27
@fudgemuffins27 2 ай бұрын
thank you so much for sharing all these clips of things i could never in a million years bring myself to do to my girl even just out of curiosity
@HiddenLink_clips
@HiddenLink_clips 2 ай бұрын
Sorry for watching hit me hard
@KollbjornYT
@KollbjornYT 2 ай бұрын
This was so fucking painful to watch! I had to pause after every line of dialogue to endure watching this. Allowing Shadowheart to be turned into a husk and seeing your companions clearly being broken up about it is right up there with giving Scratch to Angry Mar'hyah. No doubt that was one of the fastest reloads and deletes ever for you, Dragon
@AegixDrakan
@AegixDrakan 2 ай бұрын
Daaayum. :o I despite Shar even more than I already did, which was a LOT!
@KollbjornYT
@KollbjornYT 2 ай бұрын
TIME TO PAINT THE WALLS WITH SHARRAN BLOOD!
@animeshaggy4333
@animeshaggy4333 2 ай бұрын
Imagine how bad she would feel of she does get her memories back but by then it maybe to late. We would be gone 😢
@The_Half-Elf_Bard
@The_Half-Elf_Bard 2 ай бұрын
Why would she feel bad when he betrayed her? I'd imagine the only thing she'd feel is disgust. I mean, she's better off with Shar than someone who would do this to her, and that's saying a lot.
@sega3607
@sega3607 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing why we shouldn’t give up shadowheart
@aeroblaze4
@aeroblaze4 2 ай бұрын
I was feeling pretty sad about this video but that sound effect at 1:50 killed me lol
@Aondeug
@Aondeug 2 ай бұрын
I accidentally clicked that option once when reloading a save to try the Viconia fight for like the twentieth time and was so mortified that I immediately reloaded. Seeing what happens after you pick it is just soulcrushing.
@mayaraqueiroz1849
@mayaraqueiroz1849 2 ай бұрын
Okay, after your last video about she dumping us to Shar, I thought that was nothing that could've hurt more. But, congrats, you did it! She not reconizing her favorite flower? A twistIng knife video 😢 Now I know exactly what NOT to do in my playthrough 👍🏻
@jamalclark4846
@jamalclark4846 2 ай бұрын
So the tadpole isn't able to show her the journey? Seems weird
@vitorschultz9892
@vitorschultz9892 2 ай бұрын
Not the Vine boom when she says "you must confuse me for someone who has no taste"
@garrytalaroc
@garrytalaroc 2 ай бұрын
I would never do this to her
@maning04
@maning04 2 ай бұрын
Yep.. Never EVER!
@barrymacdonald3439
@barrymacdonald3439 2 ай бұрын
why not if your not romancing her its the best way to get rid of the emo child like at that part of the game a cleric is not needed at all
@Biggiecheese20
@Biggiecheese20 2 ай бұрын
​@@barrymacdonald3439I hope u get critical failures and constant disapprovals in all ur runs
@is3511
@is3511 2 ай бұрын
Cleric is one of they most op class​@@barrymacdonald3439
@xXSilentAgent47Xx
@xXSilentAgent47Xx Ай бұрын
This is awesome when Larian added Neuralyzer quest on Shadowheart. Also it's bit weird seeing Triss outfit from TW2 mod on Karlach.
@ClassicCartoonComedyClips
@ClassicCartoonComedyClips Ай бұрын
'The memories you shared with her will die with you' - CRY
@stargirl7646
@stargirl7646 2 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t she know that losing her memories could be a possibility, being a former devotee of Lady Shar and all?? Not sure why she’s acting like you couldn’t be telling the truth. Unless they wiped that knowledge too
@RockoEstalon
@RockoEstalon 2 ай бұрын
Considering she's a former selunite they might be wiping more than normal.
@stargirl7646
@stargirl7646 2 ай бұрын
@@RockoEstalon true
@PerfectKirby
@PerfectKirby 2 ай бұрын
I think they scrubbed her mind HARD this time
@mgatwood42
@mgatwood42 2 ай бұрын
I seem to recall Shadowheart being surprised to learn it's a mirror that removes her memories, even though her note from before her last memory wipe says they're going to make her "look in the mirror" again. She also initially believes she's only had her memories wiped for her mission and that they'll be restored once she completes it, which is false. Nocturne confirms she's had her memory wiped many times already and had to rebuild her memories each time, and also that this isn't normal practice even for the Sharrans. In this scene it's probable Viconia removed her knowledge that memory-wiping is even a thing in the cult so she would be easier to mould back into a Sharran. Our urging Shadowheart to recall her erased memories helped break her out of the cult - Viconia wouldn't want her to know there even _are_ memories she's lost in case it happens again.
@CedricBassman
@CedricBassman 2 ай бұрын
Shadowheart is basically a chosen of Selune. That's why her mind needs frequent Winter Soldier scrambling, because she isn't a Shar follower, she is inherently a Selunite. That's why she may talk the evil talk in the first act, but actually you get approval by doing good things, which doesn't add up for a Shar follower. Her connection to Selune is so strong that she basically defaults back to a Selunite morality after a time, which is why her Mind requires constant wiping. Looks like this time they really threw her memories into the blender.
@GolompReformed
@GolompReformed 2 ай бұрын
the "sorry for watching" hits
@ShallBePurified
@ShallBePurified 2 ай бұрын
This game is insane because no way I would've thought this story path was possible.
@George_Washington_1776
@George_Washington_1776 2 ай бұрын
I would rather die than get this ending. Poor Shart
@peterw2880
@peterw2880 2 ай бұрын
This is genuinely heartbreaking
@Codefan321
@Codefan321 Ай бұрын
*karlach disapproves *astarion disapproves *gale disapproves *wyll disapproves *lae'zel disapproves *minthara disapproves *halsin disapproves *jaheira disapproves *minsc disapproves *scratch disapproves *owlbear disapproves *withers disapproves *netherbrain disapproves *emperor disapproves "oopsie daisy" *reloads*
@rudy1999
@rudy1999 8 күн бұрын
Who cares, all those useless side characters anyway. I'm good as long as Bhaal approves :))
@dranreb1118
@dranreb1118 Күн бұрын
@@rudy1999 Even Bhaal would probably be like "why you torturing this kid just kill her man"
@Kibblz961
@Kibblz961 Ай бұрын
"The memories you shared with her will die with you." DAMN.
@enigmaticspirit08
@enigmaticspirit08 2 ай бұрын
All those people who turned Scratch over to the mean lady? I bet you're all here revelling in your depravity. Monsters.
@FreakazoidRobots
@FreakazoidRobots 2 ай бұрын
There are some things I can't do even in a video game.
@avidian888
@avidian888 2 ай бұрын
Yeah this is intensely horrifying... I am glad to have seen this here so I will never be tempted to play it out in my playthroughs...
@kristinw2600
@kristinw2600 2 ай бұрын
I wonder what happens if you keep the noblestalk this long and give it to her to restore her memories? I don't think I'll ever be able to make myself do this, although maybe on my Horrible Durge Run...
@SaraAdrian
@SaraAdrian 2 ай бұрын
There isn’t an option to give it to her this late in the game. Besides she wouldn’t trust you enough to eat it anyway
@aceanimations3214
@aceanimations3214 2 ай бұрын
"Sorry for watching" yeah, i havent got that part yet, hopefully ever. That's honestly heartbreaking.
@ZoeBateman
@ZoeBateman 2 ай бұрын
imagine accidentally picking the "give her to viconia" option in an honour mode run
@Hespus
@Hespus Ай бұрын
@@ZoeBateman Thank you... you taught my brother to crochet with your book before he passed away... have a blessed day 😓
@bignwah6905
@bignwah6905 2 ай бұрын
After BG2 Vicona DOES defy Shar and travels with Drizzt Do'Urden so it's possible sharrans eventually kidnap her and use the mirror on her, this makes sense as Vicona abandoned Lolth after refusing to sacrifice a child there is no way Vicona would kidnap a child and torture them for Shar.
@whiskey5106
@whiskey5106 2 ай бұрын
Giving her to Viconia is the most terrible choice in the game for me. Other evil choices we at least get some kind of reward or power either in game sense or narrative sense, but giving SH you get nothing. Maybe you get to be allied with Viconia but she didn’t promise anything before hand. So, it’s most likely just you just choose to lose a companion without expecting anything in return which is another kind of evil.
@AddonisGigachad
@AddonisGigachad 2 ай бұрын
I saw this scene before but didn’t know how you would get it (at that point i haven’t even played the game) without the context the video was heartbreaking. Now it feels so very very evil and heartless from the players side
@keithbailey8391
@keithbailey8391 2 ай бұрын
Whoa !!!!!!!!!!! That's pretty heavy man , even Karlach looks uncomfortable
@LordSusaga
@LordSusaga 2 ай бұрын
"What happens if you romance Shadowheart then..." Sorry, I think I blacked out for a moment there. My brain just failed to process what it saw. Romance Shadowheart makes sense, but then there's some gibberish that comes after?
@manband20
@manband20 2 ай бұрын
Real talk, nothing has made me so angry that I could manage to go Super Saiyan more than seeing just how fucked up this scene is. Gotta give props to the devs for being so cruel to actually come up with this storyline.
@erin1569
@erin1569 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, you better be sorry for using my curiosity to make me watch this depressing scenario
@DragonsDream
@DragonsDream 2 ай бұрын
Sorry 😔🙏
@TheRyndiculous
@TheRyndiculous 2 ай бұрын
Minthara and Karlach's face in the background is what got me
@ljt006
@ljt006 2 ай бұрын
I want a fanfic of her remembering
@Metalwabbit
@Metalwabbit 16 күн бұрын
A fun thought: everything even as it is happening to you is becoming a memory. So in that sense, we are nothing but our memories. Change or lose those and you are effectively a different person. When we met Shadowheart she already had her memory wiped at least once. Meaning we never met the "original" shadowheart and when she has all her memories she still a different person than the Shadowheart we met. The difference is with her memories back it's her choice and she's happy. You can never truly restore what she was but can give her some of the original her back and let her be who she chooses to be. But with Shar, they took her choice and effectively killed and replaced her because she was inconvenient to them
@Weiss1456
@Weiss1456 2 ай бұрын
A choice like this must probably reduce the approval rank of the companions by 2 or 3 atleast.
@hahaureadmyname
@hahaureadmyname 2 ай бұрын
-25 for lae'zel and minthara, -15 for everyone else
@kintaro1851
@kintaro1851 2 ай бұрын
​@@hahaureadmynameThat's even more impressive, given that Lae'zel and Minthara are probably the most evil companions you can recruit. At least as their default.
@rudy1999
@rudy1999 8 күн бұрын
who cares about some companions as long as Bhaal approves
@Kazen169
@Kazen169 Ай бұрын
wow. thanks... I didn't know i needed to have my heart broken like that today...thanks..
@ShadowShart
@ShadowShart 2 ай бұрын
BOOM noise will always get me 😂
@temirbek2004
@temirbek2004 2 ай бұрын
Thats cruel, betrayal is the worst thing human can do
@DragonsDream
@DragonsDream 2 ай бұрын
I know, I'm sorry
@ariaspistachios
@ariaspistachios 2 ай бұрын
"Sorry for watching" 😭😭
@lThellRockl
@lThellRockl 2 ай бұрын
the bombing sound effect was fking on point haha. it choked me
@CucumberLlamas
@CucumberLlamas 2 ай бұрын
I relished so deeply in completely torching the house of grief with Shadowheart. As a lvl 12 sorceress with maxed out half ilithid powers, with lvl 12 barb/fighter karlach, and lvl 12 rogue thief astarion wielding Gontr Mael, the whole temple quickly became a target rich environment. After using black hole to pull everyone together that first shot of chain lightening evaporated 4 sharrans, and it only got better when they came into swinging range of Karlach
@MerlinTheCommenter
@MerlinTheCommenter 2 ай бұрын
I’d be curious to know what timeline was canon for Viconia. Based on her behavior now I would it’s safe to say she never romanced Gorion’s Ward. I cannot imagine the Viconia I romanced doing this to anyone’s love life, let alone her adopted daughter’s. 😂
@aviendha1154
@aviendha1154 2 ай бұрын
Oooh good point, I know Aerie and her really don’t like each other, but unlike Anomen they won’t try and kill her, so I guess she traveled with them for a while, and eventually she was kicked and def was not romanced to chaotic neutral by the player character!
@LordBilliam
@LordBilliam 2 ай бұрын
This is why she shouldn't have been in the game, at least not like this. Pretty disrespectful to the players to rewrite their choices in previous games. This could easily have been a bespoke character. A shame as they did a great job with the other returning characters. I have to headcanon that Shar found Viconia and rewrote her memories, deleting her romance and alignment change.
@aviendha1154
@aviendha1154 2 ай бұрын
@@LordBilliam I don’t think it’s an issue at all, it doesn’t erase any of you things you do in the previous games, and it’s cool to have the cameo, it’s just like Minsc and Jahera, or saverok for that matter.
@Starfloofle
@Starfloofle 2 ай бұрын
@@LordBilliam Honestly agonizingly plausible, which is devastating.
@TheBayzent
@TheBayzent Ай бұрын
Well, don't wanna be thst guy but I remind you that in that ending she gets murdered by drow assasins. So, her creating a Sharran cult in Waterdeep, destroying it and helping Calimport and Suldanessalar (for the second time) is the canon one.
@mariuszmoraw3571
@mariuszmoraw3571 2 ай бұрын
"Consequences of your actions"
@jaavonnispartairious-wv4yp
@jaavonnispartairious-wv4yp 2 ай бұрын
What outfit is that for the guy at 0:20 ??
@thatlauraborealis
@thatlauraborealis 2 ай бұрын
It looks like a dyed version of Astarions ascended night clothes
@alejandronavas7051
@alejandronavas7051 2 ай бұрын
Its a mod
@TonkarzOfSolSystem
@TonkarzOfSolSystem 2 ай бұрын
It's so weird that Shadowheart basically just goes along with it. You'd think she'd fight.
@erickchristensen746
@erickchristensen746 16 күн бұрын
It’s wild how evil you can be in the game
@xingzhexin8843
@xingzhexin8843 2 ай бұрын
Sorry for the trouble for going through all this just to show us what it's like [cries].
@kiemugen9830
@kiemugen9830 2 ай бұрын
memory wipe/rewrite = death
@KazuyaTomoko96
@KazuyaTomoko96 2 ай бұрын
Now give her the noblestalk!
@manband20
@manband20 2 ай бұрын
Yo imagine an option where you actually do give her the noblestalk and you can get one chance to restore her memories by getting her to remember her favorite flower. Then after panicking over just how much she's forgotten, she realizes just how hard she's been messed with and she absolutely goes BALLISTIC on the rest of the cult.
@Starfloofle
@Starfloofle 2 ай бұрын
@@manband20 And you, understandably.
@kou7191
@kou7191 Ай бұрын
The funny thing is that she should be fully aware that they often wipe people's memories there, even their own, so like, instead of her reaction being "I never met you in my life" it really should be "if I don't remember you, it's for a good reason, now move along"
@travonhackett1401
@travonhackett1401 2 ай бұрын
The feeling you get for failing a roll requirement of 2
@Andrew_Waples
@Andrew_Waples 2 ай бұрын
The things that can happen in this game.
@HistoricMold440
@HistoricMold440 2 ай бұрын
Surprised there isn't an "open your mind to her" option like there is when other characters want a peek inside your head. It'd be pretty hard for her to deny it after she sees that you have memories she doesn't
@zanthetp
@zanthetp 29 күн бұрын
This fucks me up on a whole different level 😭
@moonseraph99
@moonseraph99 2 ай бұрын
the way i haven't even romanced her and this destroyed my heart
@den2242
@den2242 Ай бұрын
1:11 - Hold on a second, is this a Triss Merigold's outfit from TW2?
@That_0ne_Dev
@That_0ne_Dev Ай бұрын
This is lowkey heartbreaking
@Twotone-ld1fb
@Twotone-ld1fb 2 ай бұрын
There are a lot of choices like this in the game with different characters that they could have made achivements just to see how many people would never get all achivements because of it. Call them a set of achivements like heartless achivements, because you can't have a heart to get them.
@thomasgrey9121
@thomasgrey9121 2 ай бұрын
Show me that monster who picks these choices in his playthrough!
@poslednisoud
@poslednisoud Ай бұрын
On the bright side, you get a second chance to do the Alaskan Snow Dragon with her.
@SeriousDragonify
@SeriousDragonify 2 ай бұрын
When youre turning Shadowheart into having dementia.
@Algernonab
@Algernonab 2 күн бұрын
Friendly reminder that you can romance Viconia in Baldur's Gate 2.
@ThatMillix
@ThatMillix Ай бұрын
My Half-Orc barbarian was like "Never." When Mother Superior made the request to give up Shadowheart. Nobody's taking his Night Orchid unless they want a swift death. 😂
@henrikskjolden
@henrikskjolden 2 ай бұрын
She didn't have to stomp all over my heart like that. :'O
@abbieee69
@abbieee69 2 ай бұрын
I think a more darker route larian should have gone is if when you face viconia, 1st choice obviously fight viconia and either kill or spare her or 2nd choice shadowheart choose's to save her parents and have her mind wiped and you find her parents later on in bg3 and they have no idea who you are or what you've done.
@Nimori
@Nimori 3 күн бұрын
Noblestalk can recover memories. Hur dur.
@Jay-kc6sg
@Jay-kc6sg 2 ай бұрын
Jeez 💀 thank you for doing this I guess?? Bc I could never
@White_Wizard
@White_Wizard Ай бұрын
Are there any new dialogue options if you bring that mushroom that restores memory?
@justarandomchick767
@justarandomchick767 2 ай бұрын
I love people posting stuff like this. Because i cant be mean to the fictional people😭 like i'd never find this out in my gameplays
@DragonsDream
@DragonsDream 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate it, but I'm still not very proud of me doing this, but at least I can show how cruel my Tav is to Shadowheart so you guys can avoid doing this in your playthrough :')
@justarandomchick767
@justarandomchick767 2 ай бұрын
@DragonsDream apreciate the sacrifice 🙏🏼💕
@thrash_ley
@thrash_ley 2 ай бұрын
600+ hours and i didnt even realize/consider this option. Diabolical. Ive done all the good endings and bad endings the romanced endings and the durge endings but never sold out Shadowheart Astarion or made gale use the orb. Crazy
@JacksonOfDork
@JacksonOfDork Ай бұрын
lmaoo the vine boom when she says u have no taste
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