What Huberman got wrong about skincare science

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

This was a long one 😅 Hope you enjoy it! Some of the other scicomm resources mentioned: Mo Skin Lab, toxicologist and safety assessor www.youtube.com/@Moskinlab/ Jen of The Eco Well, cosmetic scientist doing a PhD in environmental misinformation theecowell.com Dr John Barbieri, US-based dermatologist specialising in acne www.youtube.com/@DrJohnBarbieri Dr Anjali Mahto, UK-based dermatologist specialising in acne instagram.com/anjalimahto

[@dopaminedeficient]

I absolutely love your content. You are one of the few people I trust when it comes to beauty/skin health science and I really appreciate your work trying to counteract the rampant misinformation spread by people with too much confidence, too little information and training, and huge audiences who do not know better than to be critical of them.

[@bariqirsyadi7199]

yes another new video, always love the content

[@aitzepe]

Thank you got all the effort you put in ❤.

[@Unkownko75]

Plz do a video about TCA in the house for face neck & stretch marks 🙏🏻😭😭

[@tallwithcurvesxo5914]

Love your work! Have one query about some sunscreen under-application due to it causing a terrible taste in your mouth (e.g Ego Sun Sense - Face ultra light tint spf 50+) even if not applied on the lips. Do you know why this occurs?

[@donnaokane502]

I love the line of thought- “I’m worried about regulated chemicals sinking into my skin and getting into my blood, but I LOVE the idea of taking a pill that’s not regulated by the FDA that goes right to my bloodstream!” Makes sense…. 🙃

[@kookootrix1978]

Love it 😂😂😂

[@MariosPOS]

LITERALLYYYYYYYYY

[@DynecLancer]

Literally!!! As much as I love Dr Huberman, I watched this video with lots of skepticism…

[@auricia201]

But it comes from plants, so it's all good 🥺👉🏻👈🏻🍃

[@justanopinionokay]

fda is scammy They can be bought…, literally they’re the ones who put oxy on the market, despite the very addictive nature

[@dehosyt]

Brandolini's law: “ The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it. “ This is the best example of this

[@ratsword200]

I realize this is true even on a more local level, my opinions and world views when proven wrong still take more mental effort and diligence to reevaluate than just accepting some random opinion I read.

[@ThePiggiestOne]

I remember when Lab Muffin did an episode debunking misinformation and "Brandolini" was boldly displayed in the back. It's going to be a recurrent trend-as it's been for a while.

[@kamo7293]

so... its a perpetual machine?

[@kookootrix1978]

"Certain chemicals in certain sunscreens". Oh, thank goodness, I thought he was going to be vague 🙄😳 😆😆😂

[@de_da_oo]

oh no, this is a complex topic! who would have thought? rolling my eyes so god damn hard

[@MariosPOS]

I KNEW they were gonna be promoting a supplement, and I KNEW they would've ignored your comments, despite Huberman saying he'd like you two to discuss. It's like clockwork with these people

[@eleannakritikaki4811]

And how sneakily they promoted the supplement... Huberman acting like he didn't know what it was. As if the other dude was going to promote sth in his video by surprise

[@MariosPOS]

@eleannakritikaki4811 EXACTLYYY

[@chocohazel94]

Exactly haha I was just asking the whole time: are they just ignorant or are they selling something? Welp

[@chesito15]

At this point if I see some buff dude with a microphone I assume he is promoting some kind of pseudoscience supplement.

[@YoungMeschaLakes]

I was waiting for it, and they did not disappoint. Of course, they are selling something.

[@maureengreen8695]

To be honest, I unsubscribed from Huberman following the New York Magazine article about the creepy way he treats the women he dates, but I did watch his skincare podcast and was disappointed in his dismissal of chemical sunscreen. I'm grateful you set the record straight. Your reach is far, and the most credible dermatologists and skinfluencers frequently credit your work. Keep it up! We need your voice in this scary era of disinformation.

[@eekwall9972]

DECADES. The sheer amount of time it takes a person to develop your level of topic expertise, contextual understanding, ability to communicate, and the balance of confidence and humility you project... I'm just floored at how lucky I am that you publish your videos, and cite your research, here. Thank you. You pour authentic passion into this and it shows, and I want to give you your well earned comment-endorphin*. Also I bought your book. Short of figuring out how to get you US NSF funding for this critical public outreach work, that's what I got!

[@Ryanneey]

Where did you get her book? I need to look into this!

[@hollyhollems4234]

Adding my comment endorphins here to second the gratitude! I've only bought merch from a youtuber once, and it was from Lab Muffin!

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! 😊

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Skincare eBook is labmuffin.com/skin Physical beauty science book is labmuffin.com/sob

[@sophiehobley828]

​@Ryanneey the image at 11:50 is taken from her book - it's really a good read - i struggle to read full non-fiction books but its well written so is quite easy to read and also if you just wanna know more about a specific topic it's organised really well in a way that's easy to dip into 😊

[@ariaamini1533]

Honey wake up, Lab muffin beauty just dropped a 2 hour expose on Huberman

[@Natyourpl8]

You’ll love Scott Carney’s video on him too! Highly recommend.

[@thenopedetective]

This variation of the meme is cute lol

[@tjinwei]

Honestly, the patience that michelle exhibits in this video is wild.

[@catc8927]

Seriously. Even Michelle’s comments to him on IG (paused the video) were so civil, even after he called HER “arrogant” for saying he didn’t have the right expertise.

[@al206]

Incredible that the interviews in question were really a five-hour long ad for this dude’s silly product and for Huberman’s fear-mongering personal brand. Thank you for your transparent commitment to teaching science and media literacy to the public, Michelle!

[@pearinsomnia9188]

I feel like Huberman’s issue isn’t his personal brand as much as it is the way he platforms whoever his guest is and generally just… agrees with everything they say. Like, it’s great he has guests instead of speaking on subjects he himself has no expertise in, but some of his guests are iffy and he approaches them with curiosity and openness instead of skepticism… which would be great if this wasn’t a *science* podcast. He’s leaning into being a podcaster instead of a science communicator (like Michelle) and that’s a disappointment, because those are two very different things but people believe he’s the latter because that’s where he started.

[@Aki-wq6xh]

Disliking Hubermann more and more here 😢

[@BryanLu0]

​@@pearinsomnia9188It's a problem with a lot of podcasts, people don't go on podcasts to debate, so it's all softball into promotion for what they are doing.

[@minniemouse0989]

“In lord of the rings units” had me cackling! Thank you for not only making skincare accessible for all, but also making TIME accessible for your fellow neurodivergent people!

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Hahaha I was procrastinating so I decided to calculate it by downloading some subtitle files 😂

[@Jewellianna]

Michelle gave us a 2 hour sunscreen video… as a Christmas gift!🥹🫶🏾🎄

[@Nice_Tree]

Makes sense, since days are the longest in Australia in December. But where I live it's 0 UV index second month 😅

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Hope you enjoyed it! ☺️

[@Jewellianna]

@@LabMuffinBeautyScienceyes!! I absolutely enjoyed it and just finished watching it too!🥰 thank you so much for sharing!🫶🏾

[@australiafair5926]

I picked up The Science of Beauty for my step daughter. She's really clever and wants to be a veterinarian, but she's also on tiktok and getting influenced to buy junk. I hope it encourages her interest in biology and helps her make smart choices for herself.

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Thank you! Hope it helps 😁

[@antlerman7644]

I did the same for my cousins!

[@SamMKKK]

Dude. My MIL was similarly instructed by her Ivy-educated derm to ditch her chem sunscreen lotion for a mineral POWDER for better management of her melasma. When I told her that the chemists actually making and testing this stuff constantly say powders aren’t the way to go (and that a melasma diagnosis does not necessitate ruling out chem sunscreens), she couldn’t get past how her derm could be wrong about this. We’re fucked girlies.

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Let me guess, this was Colorescience powder and the derm sells it in their office? 🙃

[@SamMKKK]

@@LabMuffinBeautyScience 👁️👄👁️ It… was the Colorscience one and she did get it from the office. We are double fucked girlies.

[@lipstickzombie4981]

​@@LabMuffinBeautyScienceor Tizo.😅

[@kikiTHEalien]

There is a joke "I am scared to go to the doctor knowing how good of an engineer I am" in my country. Medical practitioners are just people educated in a profession, same as a good portion of the general population. There is little point in worshiping them as if they posses an otherworldly broadband connection to some higher knowledge hidden from the rest of us.

[@Neenerella333]

​@LabMuffinBeautyScience Dude. Derms should not be allowed to sell these things in their offices. They're expensive, not covered by insurance, and rarely supported by studies, but patients assume that they are. I make no such assumptions about my hair salon, and in that case, there is a daily small scale study of the efficacy on human subjects.

[@moahavande]

“The Science of Beauty” Netflix series button ---------------->

[@Kebersox]

If goop can, so can lab muffin!

[@moahavande]

@@Kebersox she absolutely can 👍🏻 at least it will be worth watching x

[@efernmd]

Please!!!!

[@salma22000]

Y E S

[@sammistrade]

YES!!!

[@mountainyogi1984]

I had a friend who died of skin cancer that metastasized further into her body. Skin cancer can very much be a big deal

[@kookootrix1978]

I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope you sharing what happened leads to many using sunscreen and getting routine exams by their dermatologists when and where possible. It will save many future lives 💙

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Yep it sucks, I'm sorry to hear that! Someone in my circles died at 28 of melanoma.

[@Pinkosaurus]

I know two people who died if melanoma and one who has been battling recurrence for decades. It’s a very scary disease that needs to be taken seriously

[@dmm8635]

48:14 *eye rolls* There it is! He's promoting his own supplement!

[@catc8927]

Frickin grifters. Also hurting the reputations of Harvard and Stanford and the many actually legit researchers there.

[@MariosPOS]

As a medical student, I cannot believe that a dermatologist & skin cancer surgeon said that losing the hair cuticle is part of the mechanism of androgenetic alopecia, and that babies' skin is like a mucus membrane that absorbs everything... It's bad enough that he's an M.D but the guy is a DERMATOLOGIST... This is supposed to be his literal area of expertise

[@catc8927]

His understanding of biochemistry (look they look kinda similar!) is at the level of someone who just took organic chemistry last term …

[@Dreamplandoradij]

Yeah its really scary. And they are so confident as to do even 2 hours talking nonsense video 🤯

[@gwenyverreking5565]

I’m finishing up my masters in toxicology and the amount of WTFs I said watching this oh my godddd. Michelle you’re a beast for this 2 hour video!

[@Scipio0404]

OH MY GOD WE ARE EATING GOOD TONIGHT. On a different note hearing the doctor say "if we are collecting it here, maybe we are collecting it up there" dude that's what the fucking blood-brain barrier is for... he should know that. We literally learn that in the first year of medical school. This dude do be a wake up call of why we shouldn't neglect biochemistry...

[@strawberry-w2l]

YEAH WE AREEE

[@katherinepierce7948]

Oh, he knows about blood brain barrier very well. But this is his money making grift, so no need to use real scientific information….

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

If you look at the context on the side, that bit is actually part of his answer to Huberman asking specifically about the blood brain barrier 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@hollyhollems4234]

@@LabMuffinBeautyScience Uuuuuuuuuuuuugh. I literally shouted "blood-brain barrier" at this. The context makes this worse.

[@Dreamplandoradij]

And for why there should be some filter for dangerous people talking nonsense about science 😮

[@ennemuk]

As a PhD candidate i lost my faith in professor Huberman when (in this video at 12:12) he said he looked into the literature "very deeply", in a field that's not his own?! Like how would a professor have time to supposedly look deeply into literature in an unfamiliar field while cranking out a bunch of podcasts and oh yea .. being a professor at Stanford?! Nah man.

[@catc8927]

That’s the thing, Huberman is basically AWOL from Stanford and doesn’t have a “lab” anymore, and there’s nothing they can do about it because he’s tenured. It’s just one last postdoc keeping the lights on. Huberman moved to SoCal, which is the wrong end of the state from Stanford, so he can’t possibly be going into a Palo Alto lab on a regular basis. The NY Mag Intelligencer article about him explained it best.

[@ennemuk]

@catc8927 haha oh god that's so embarrassing for him and Stanford

[@findthatwhimsy]

So many dermatologists are supportive of all kinds of sunscreens on the market. How did Huberman find the one dermatologist that is against chemical sunscreens. When a doctor sounds too different from their peers, a healthy dose of skepticism should be applied.

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

That's usually a good rule, although I'm seeing more and more US derms being anti-chemical sunscreen now - I'd guess the majority of derms aren't, but it's not something that's easy to find out!

[@findthatwhimsy]

@@LabMuffinBeautyScienceOh definitely. Me crying in American trying not to become a tin foil conspiracist but also questioning everything said. 👀 I want to continue using my Japanese Watery Essence and not the mineral doppleganger that is showing up in stores.

[@AshPaddyCOYS]

I'm so tired of these 'experts' online giving you junk science that ends with them selling you supplements instead. Thank you for what you do!

[@Casualphilosopher-db9gy]

Michelle should be paid by the government at this point. She is doing more for fighting misinformation and educating public than even some government bodies. Thank you, Michelle! I wish I pursued a degree in chemistry instead of what I did in life 😂 I was good at chemistry and biology at school and studied it at advanced level (for secondary school). Now I enjoy learning about cosmetic chemistry from people like you and that little knowledge of chemistry from school helps to understand some things quicker 😊

[@naturalbornleniwiec]

RESPECT, girl! It takes lots of courage (and knowledge and wisdom) to battle "science" influencers. I'm glad there are still people ready to explain complicated issues to simple people like us and NOT feed us some bullshit.

[@moahavande]

Honestly, this is the YT video of the year for me. Loved every second of it. Appreciate your work, thank you.

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Glad you enjoyed it! 🥰

[@connie6410]

Totally agree!

[@dinurse8591]

Me tooo

[@moahavande]

@@connie6410 thank you x

[@0304dina]

It must be so frustrating to be an expert in something and constantly having to clear up nonsense that overly confident uh... "business people" try to market to consumers. Thank you for your hard work, it's much appreciated!

[@RandomGirlEve]

As someone raised by a "chemicals bad" mom, it makes me so frustrated to see these professionals helping people delude themselves further. I have been following you for quite some time so it helped me unlearn these ideas (perhaps even ideologies?) that have been instilled into me since I was younger. I know she will never listen to me, but at least I can live and use my products in peace. (Especially since I live in EU and the regulations do make everything much safer.) Thank you so much for your content, you make a difference in people's lives.

[@NadiaBarlow]

I was brought up that way too and I'm still on a journey of working out what I think... so I get it!

[@Lucy-cl2qk]

it's so weird that people watching huberman think he is the pinnacle of knowledge in literally every medical specialty and see his lifestyle tips as some kind of universal truth

[@pearinsomnia9188]

The real benefit of his podcast is that he gets guests in the areas he doesn’t specialize in *instead* of speaking about it himself, apart from the summaries/recaps he puts together based on the conversations with those guests. Or it would be, if he didn’t continually include seriously iffy people along with highly credentialed scientists in his guest lineup. 🙃

[@JillKnapp]

Well, he's got a beard, so he DOMINATES ALL KNOWLEDGE and stuff

[@ZZ-qy5mv]

If you can prove you're an expert in one thing, somehow a lot of people will believe they're in expert in anything. It's idol warship mentality. A lot of people say "he changed my life because if X advise, so I believe him."

[@Casualphilosopher-db9gy]

You know the kind of people watching him and “experts” like him 😂

[@princessap9635]

Even more hilarious is that he speaks on relationships and dating/mating-then you hear more about his OWN personal life and let’s say it isn’t enviable lol

[@leilanisimmons8431]

I don’t know if there is anything as satisfying as watching you correct men that believe they know everything. Thank you ♥️

[@sammistrade]

Yessssssssss

[@ellenojala9985]

The amount of work that must have gone into this video 🤯 Hats off to you (and Mo for checking everything! Mo is amazing!), you're absolutely incredible. Thank you!

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

It did take forever, glad it's appreciated!

[@Watuhh]

This is gonna be a good one! More chemical sunscreen slander 🙄 I’m so sick of hearing people spread bad chemical sunscreen information

[@annamokrushina9228]

As I’m watching the video further I’m getting my hair standing up straight higher and higher. I’ve now reached the moisturizer section - and omg. This guy is just pumping out nonsense after nonsense. Guys, this is a formula for success: straight face, a sprinkle of ‘scientific’ words, smooth phrasing - and you’re golden. Sell people whatever you want.

[@adorabell4253]

His face is what trips me up. He looks like Steven Segal and because of that I can’t take him seriously.

[@annamokrushina9228]

@ 😂Who, Huberman or the dermatologist?

[@catc8927]

Add to the formula: name drop prestigious institutions like Harvard and Stanford whenever you can. Ignoring how your grifting is an insult to all of the hardworking actual researchers there, of course.

[@annamokrushina9228]

@ spot on! Those are also essential💯

[@annamokrushina9228]

Michelle, you are forever my hero for doing this🤩 This goes to show - yet again - that scientists should thread very carefully venturing out of their area of expertise. Unfortunately, Huberman is long out of his depth, it’s honestly becoming dangerous for the general public. I lost my aunt to melanoma, the time she was battling it was horrendous. The pain and suffering she our family went through was beyond unimaginable. She was 36.

[@Dreamplandoradij]

😢 so sorry for your loss , may she rest with all peace and good stuff 🙏 Yeah it is really dangerous they need some filter or regulations on youtube and other platform from people who are not real medicals or scientists. Cause its obvious those men not knowing BASICS How on earth they get a degree 😮😮

[@stephenjames2377]

In Canada, when regulated healthcare professionals make public statements that are not supported by the science, their regulating body can intervene. They protect the public from misleading information.

[@grf123]

HeZ worried about trace amounts of sunscreen in blood with proper safety data and is confident enough to make his son drink a concoction powder that has zero safety, we are seeing liver damage reports from turmeric & green tea supplements bcoz the active ingredients are so so high compared to drinking green tea and eating turmeric in curry.

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

EXACTLY. I wonder how many times the "upper limit of normal" of polypodium you get in your blood after eating it OH WAIT NO ONE HAS TESTED IT

[@bosmer3836]

I really wish supplements were regulated and more researched, though. L-theanine has been great for my anxiety, and is helping me not depend on benzos as much. Yet most doctors dismiss it (and prescribe more benzos instead!) because they don't get taught about supplements in med school. I can't help but wonder if there really are some beneficial things we are missing out on.

[@adorabell4253]

@@bosmer3836the problem in terms of supplement use and whatnot is that they aren’t regulated and are, in many countries, technically food. For doctors, who tend to work with specified dosages to medicine, talking about supplements that often don’t have the stated dosage in each pill or scoop and sometimes have things they aren’t supposed to have in them, is like playing roulette with a patient’s health. More study and actual regulation would be better.

[@notmyproblem88]

I've never watched a single video on dermatology or skin science but I'm deeply interested in how science seems under attack by online grifters and I deeply appreciate your work to fight back. The algorithm worked for once!

[@miner00x]

As a chemist to i like to say the next thing: A Dermatologist can know about skincare, but not because they are formed with that knowledge, but rather because dermatology shares certain knowledge with cosmetic science (Skin anatomy, skin conditions, etc...) but lacks certain knowledge partially (toxicology applied in cosmetic science) or completely (formulation of products) so they will have the same knowledge as an average profesional in any area in certain cases, such as sunscreen formulation, they could look for information but since they had no formation in formulation, if they don't consult with an expert in the area or learn formally about that (for example by doing scientific research in a laboratory). this is a real problem because a lot of dermatologist try to advice about skincare which is fine when it comes to anecdotes for advicing certain products for conditions for example (which is why i love dr dray, she really knows how to advice and even if she has knowledge about skincare in general, she probably knows that for example a toxicologist would explain better the risk of ingredients), but when it comes with scientific education, unless they invite an expert in that area, they could potencially misinform a good analogy for this is the next one: A Human surgeon could potencially know about animal surgery but won't have a better view than a veterinarian, a veterinarian will almost all the time will have a better perspective in animal surgery, that doesn't mean that a human surgeon won't know anything, but if they read an article they won't have the same perspective and they could say something wrong.

[@miner00x]

Also im a huge fan of you michelle, im so glad that you touched this topic!

[@fmleverynameistakenx]

this frustrated me so much during medschool. we learn basically nothing regarding topical formulations in pharmacology (outside the classification of topical corticosteroids). being interested in dermatology, i have to learn that stuff on my own, and by far not everyone is motivated to do so.

[@miner00x]

@@fmleverynameistakenx and even with motivation is not the same as learn properly with a formal education

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Thank you!

[@fmleverynameistakenx]

@@miner00x absolutely! our focus during training is just more on diagnostic protocols, invasive procedures, antibiotic coverages, wound treatments and keeping both eyes out for those pesky internal medical complications. but we really need to integrate some knowledge about skin care products outside the ones we use and recommend - most people buy over the counter stuff.

[@Haloann]

I can't believe this content is free. I already had a lot of respect for you and this channel, but this video really demonstrates your level of expertise and superb skills of science communication. I'm an MD and PhD student and I can only imagine how much work all this debunking takes. It's really appreciated. I'm subscribing, liking and sharing, and I'm buying your book too. Is there any other way to support your work?

[@vister6757]

I used to hate sunscreen for the same reason i.e. oily or too thick. These days sunscreens formulation are so much better, easier and comfortable to wear.

[@Salomaeful]

Beautifully made response and I so admire how generous you are regarding his motivations

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Moskinlab]

Michelle, thank you so much for this incredible work. All I can say is: respect. I’m truly grateful for the opportunity to be a small part of it and for your continuous support-always thankful.

[@kookootrix1978]

Mo, you rock! I found Michelle thru James Welsh and found you thru him and Michelle! Keep up the great work! 💙💙💙

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Thank you so much Mo, for all your help here and everything else you do!

[@aim5140]

Saw Huberman takedown and listened to every single minute with all youtube advertisements. I once thought he was useful resource, but then.. Reality hit.

[@mierkablue]

I was desperate at the sunscreen parts and how they have the science so incredibly wrong, but when I got to the moisturizers and pump bottle vs jar's...I was screaming at the screen. Thank you Michelle, you do such an important work!

[@blueberrysmoothie]

I think everyone who watches this video should go paste this link in his comments :P You are such a warrior for making this video and it's the reason why you are one of the OG ppl I will trust when it comes to skincare. Thank you for everything yo udo

[@pearinsomnia9188]

I love your rational science-centered approach to influencers and professionals who share misinformation-no clickbait titles or jabs at the person, just a methodical deconstruction of faulty interpretations or misinfo while providing the sources and correct interpretations when available. I wish there was a Michelle in every field, because you’ve really developed your skill as a science communicator, even as striking that balance has probably become more difficult with the advent of short form video content!

[@claudiacallaghan7305]

Thanks!

[@AliceintheRabbitHole]

I was doing so well with watching this and refraining from yelling at these dudes. Lost it at the low fat dairy part Ugh. I feel so bad for folks with acne and without a clue who to listen to. “Don’t eat dairy! WAIT. No!! DO eat dairy, but full fat only!” Exhausting. You’re a hero for doing this video, Michelle!

[@skf101]

Alice is here 🙂 BTW patiently waiting for your best luxury skincare vid.

[@krie6336]

Teo Soleymani has never published a paper on sunscreen, toxicology, or a therapeutic drug. He may have been considered an investigator on clinical trials but having no publications from any of those "dozens" of trials, let alone any that give credence to experience with toxicologic studies, is interesting. He is an expert in Mohs surgery and treating dermatologic diseases with phototherapy. He wrote "The Infatuation With Biotin Supplementation: Is There Truth Behind Its Rising Popularity? A Comparative Analysis of Clinical Efficacy versus Social Popularity" yet his supplement touts 5 mg of biotin in the science section.

[@catc8927]

🤣 His own supplement containing an ingredient he trashed is too rich!

[@michaeljakl4075]

2 hours of fantastic, entertaining, down to earth, science based discourse. Thanks! Cheers from Austria! Have a TimTam Slam on me 😂

[@theredderthebetter1]

I “love” when confidently wrong people use lots of hand gestures to make their invalid point. I’m so glad you and your channel exist, and that you debunk the fake info these guys are putting out there.

[@meredithhoward3733]

Second only to their super-researched and legit use of random percentages to drive an incorrect point home. Eg: 97.2% of my hand gestures are carrying this conversation!

[@anna84259]

I was in a desperate need of something to listen to while I clean my apartment and your video dropped, thank you 🙏

[@elisanereis1860]

I feel you.

[@soshi-805]

2-hour Lab Muffin upload... oh Frauderman get OWNED 💨! And Michelle, props to you as always for unfailingly advocating for us consumers, in a world where certain people would so readily weaponize authority to capitalize on our fears for some coin. It is clear so much effort and passion, and probably a lot of pain and stress as well lol, go into these videos, and I hope you know how helpful they are to the layperson trying to make sense of and navigate all this (mis)information.

[@Effie3460]

Being a Greek and being exposed to our beautiful blue sky and luminous sunlight I must say that it doesn't take a lot to agree with you. Sun is a friend and a foe at the same time. Leave the B.S.guys and use a good sunscreen, a good shadow and clothing whenever possible. Great video ❤

[@None_of_your.business]

Btw, love it when you recommend other skin care youtubers, especially with a different area of expertise. There are so many especially dermatologists, but also life style influencers (although my expectations are lower with them), who talk a lot of bullshit and it's hard to find trustworthy influencers who stay in their lane (meaning not talking about stuff they don't know much about). Would love for you to make a Video/Blog post with people you can recommend

[@froggirl96]

i've made many similar comments on your videos before, but i'm so grateful to my friend for introducing me to it! i've been chronically ill my entire life basically, and i fell hard and fast for all the snake oil touted by the clean green machine. all the money i've wasted honestly makes my stomach hurt. but finding you, moskinlabs, james welsh, etc has been so helpful to me unlearning the misinformation that was shoved down my throat for so long! not just with skincare, but it's opened my eyes to every other area of my life that was affected.

[@SubSalicylate]

As someone with a chemistry background this man is driving me crazy!!! From mineral sunscreens “shielding” from UV rays to generalizing all phenolic compounds as endocrine disruptors… Lord help me.

[@shmcd3402]

It's fascinating that just one or two incorrect or misunderstood details lead to a whole cascade of misinformation . What you are doing is so incredibly important. I'm an experienced dentist and am stunned at how often my peers (and myself I'm sure) have built faulty conclusions on a minor incorrect detail. So much respect for you ❤

[@sammistrade]

“maybe your kid is a stubborn little shit” OH MAH GAWDDDDDDDD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. You are incredible 😂❤️

[@jhusielvessousa9332]

this is like a christmas gift for me… TWO HOURS VIDEOS 😭😭😭 IM SO HAPPY

[@JesseLCH]

I swear to god it literally takes hours to debunk bullshit that takes seconds to make up. So I feel you when you're making/editing this video and I THANK YOU for doing the lord's work!

[@hweiii]

Thank you for this! I remember looking into huberman's podcast and noticed the high amount of cancer phobia and the same advice as a decade ago from the Americans, while the rest of the world including myself seems to have moved past purely mineral sunscreens, as a researcher in training for medical imaging stuff over the years these podcasts give me a bad feeling oven the years especially if they're pushing a supplemental product thats really not cheap😅 Thanks for your work here on youtube over the years 😊

[@sandragrumet]

Totally made my day to see this much needed clarity on such an important topic, but TWO HOURS?! You are INCREDIBLE! ❤️

[@d.on.in.a]

I hadn't realised this video was posted, and I'm so excited! A two hour long video of slightly angry Michelle Wong? That's the best Christmas gift this year ❤ Thank you Michelle, I appreciate your long videos so much. Ps: I received my signed card from you right after starting the video

[@Thatveganlifestyle]

Dear Andrew Huberman, I have been using chemical sunscreen for 15 years now and never ever ever ever have I tasted it in my mouth. This could be a problem specific to you.

[@MsPeabody1231]

I didn't realise some people eat it. No wonder they put on the bottle not to eat it.

[@kraiw0]

you're insane for this. I bought your book and whitelisted your youtube page on my adblocker but I really do wish I could do more to compensate you for your work. I hope you know the sheer amount of energy, brain, time, and life it takes does not gp unseen

[@6lhulhu6]

I only begin to use the right amont of sunscreen after I've found a sunscreen that didn't leave a white cast on my face. I can imagine that only having mineral sunscreen as a option can make people use less or even give up on sunscreen altogether, especially for people with darker skin shades.

[@Wenluchang]

omg u r the beacon of light in skincare!

[@darkydoom]

Welcome to Western Australia, where you will get a sunburn at 9am in the middle of winter. There's a reason why so many foreigners get a massive shock when they experience our sun. Which is wild for me to think they don't get burnt all around the world

[@ellenojala9985]

I can't bloody wait 😍😍 I've got snacks, something to fiddle with, and two hours of interruption-free time. Let's go!

[@PoojaK-su8jx]

Hey. As a doctor, I totally understand how frustrating it must feel when people take dermatologists as the final authority or the best experts in the world of chemicals present in skincare products. What you said is exactly how I feel. Dermatologists, though they sre experts on topics related to skin, they don't learn more than a chemist about chemicals. The general public thinks dermatology is all about cosmetics because of online derm influencers mostly producing content geared towards skincare/cosmetics. When in reality dermatology has many other focuses(a vast majority of skin pathologies). Anyway, a great video as always. Love how deeply analytical you are. Helps to clear out so many major doubts.

[@zsuzsannao.8135]

I am not even finished listening to the full video, but the level or appreciation I feel is astronomical!!

[@jessicacollins9033]

I watched Huberman’s episodes. I didn’t know what to think! Thank you for making this video, Michelle, and clearing things up❤

[@ginnadoss1181]

Thank you so much for creating this. It's clear, well-researched, and respectful. I can only imagine the monumental amount of time and effort this took.

[@LetitRainNow450]

I've been wearing sunscreen since April 2024 after listening to one of your videos. Thank you!

[@buunguyen9179]

As a person who have been working in cosmetic fields and Bachelor of Chemical Technology, I really appreciate you who dare to stand up and fight against that guy.

[@sunmoon42]

I'm always in awe of the amount of effort you put into these videos. It's like going to university

[@shmcd3402]

The amount of work you put into your videos is insane. By far the best quality content I've ever seen on youtube! You are very brave taking on some of these big egos that so carelessly confuse people about health and science. I'm sure you have to take a fair bit of backlash for daring to correct them. Please don't stop ❤

[@diskoars7145]

I have a terrible attention span but I loved every minute of this. So interesting & informative, thank you for this amazing video!

[@QueenJaneway]

In Sweden we're taught skin cancer is the deadliest. Shocked to find out people think it's "mild" or something.

[@Goodmorning1221-]

There are no Covid vaccines in Sweden ?

[@simulacrum.ad.nauseam]

So it’s fine to take chemicals orally to have (imaginary) sun protection but it’s big no no to apply chemicals topically to have (real) sun protection? Ok, mister doctor telemarketer.

[@auricia201]

Isn't he amazing? An expert in everything!

[@gonadalsynchronicity420]

did u even watch the video, lol?

[@VangaurdTDS]

@@gonadalsynchronicity420 I think its suppose to be sarcasm, as in don't trust someone who professes to be an authority on everything, because its an absurd impossibility.

[@ThankYouJesusTheChrist]

@@gonadalsynchronicity420she was being facetious methinks

[@auricia201]

@@gonadalsynchronicity420 sarcasm...

[@Inicios]

​@@gonadalsynchronicity420do you know the term "sarcasm"?

[@hbarlaam]

This might be the best thing I've watched on YT all year. Thank you for the hard work!

[@callalily303]

Michelle, thank you for this much needed debunking! I just finished my first semester in my Chemistry PhD program and your videos add so much joy to my days when I’m troubleshooting for hours in my lab. Keep up the amazing work! I bought your book and your signature sticker as my Christmas present to myself 😊 Happy holidays!

[@merrillsunderland8662]

Commenting to try and communicate to KZbin that long form deep dives are still enjoyable. I love that you have done multiple sunscreen “Top X of [YYYY]” because the industry keeps evolving. But this debunk is fabulous for tackling topics that you’ve covered before in multiple videos. I keep lapsing on my sunscreen care because as soon as I get sweaty my eyes start stinging (I avoid mascara for the same reason). And now it may be too late but I realize I need to get back on my game.

[@hazeyjane58]

Thank you thank you thank you..there is an overwhelming amount of fearmongering and it is exhausting trying to keep up with. I appreciate you so much.

[@MarcyStuart5x5]

My sister-in-law was an avid tanner. She played tennis a lot and had the most beautiful legs. As my sister-in-law grew older, she developed skin cancer. She lived for about 15 years until it took her life. Her daughter also got skin cancer; she is still fighting it and was told to stay out of the sun, or it was going to kill her. I love the new sunscreens, and I avoid sun during the most intense hours of the day.

[@Grabowskaj]

Comment for the algorithm. Also, your book is 11/10 ❤️

[@jayerscios]

Re: zinc oxide and titanium dioxide making skin dry. I had to figure this out on my own cuz NO ONE ever mentioned it!!! I wore mineral sunscreen forever due to chemical ones burning my skin when applied. I also had oily skin so mineral worked better. Now, aging and still living in SoCal, I have dehydrated facial skin. Nothing seemed to work well under makeup - and the texture and separation made it look awful. My skin was so dry and tight at the end of the day. When I switched to moisturizing chemical sunscreen I have better outcomes when wearing makeup.... my skin does not feel dry and the newer formulas are very elegant, do not burn, dry down fast, and work very well under makeup!

[@BubbleMayhem]

We eating good with this one ☝🏽 really appreciate the lucidity you breathe into the health and beauty industry!

[@Shelleyb4028]

I am SO happy you went through this whole video, amazing as always Michelle!! From watching you and Dr Dray I was calling BS through the 2 episodes of Huberman. Actually stopped watching him after the derm was on. So frustrating with all the misinformation, because he has a lot of followers!! Really appreciate you debunking all of it 😊

[@jessicacollins9033]

Dr Wong schooling two guys who don't know what they're talking about😂❤

[@AR-in5ym]

Wow. Thank you so much for your extremely informed scientifically backed review. It can be easy for the layman to get caught up in the “celebrity” of, in so doing taking any and all opinions and advise of said celebrity “experts” as the golden standard, which may in fact not be the case.

[@pros_saud]

I watched your video twice. I am commenting for the algorithm

[@AmbiambiSinistrous]

Thank you for this! We need a Shorts clip of the dermatology =/= skin care specialization point! People need to know!

[@onepandacube]

OMG THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I AM EARLY TO ANYTHING!!! Love you Dr Wong!

[@calistatantya8588]

I will always be in awe of your patience 😔 thank you for your work

[@Alastariana]

2 hour long video from Michelle? I can’t wait to get up tomorrow and watch it ❤

[@kookootrix1978]

I love your debunking videos the most, Michelle 💙💙 Especially when you respond to those who misuse their position of authority and/or credentials to spread mis/disinformation.

[@pagexx]

Me too.

[@erin_elizabethsmith]

Yeah, get him!