WHAT IF Finale: Every PLOT HOLE Explained + Tony Stark Sakaar Missing Episode

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The What If Finale introduced the Guardians of the Multiverse and gave the first season a satisfying end--while teeing up new adventures for Strange Supreme, Apocalypse Widow, and Captain Carter in the new phase of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. But it also left a lot of unanswered questions and gangling plot holes that you asked us to answer.
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@rYcetuff
@rYcetuff 2 жыл бұрын
As a “Strange” Fan,The episode was frickin satisfying.
@beautifulstrange7057
@beautifulstrange7057 2 жыл бұрын
Strange makes the show. Without him it would suck
@bobjeff3863
@bobjeff3863 2 жыл бұрын
Not stranger than other fans I know
@thesonofdormammu5475
@thesonofdormammu5475 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, I've been reading Dr Strange since the mid 80's, he was freaking awesome in his episodes.
@TheFreshSoundsFlorida
@TheFreshSoundsFlorida 2 жыл бұрын
@@beautifulstrange7057 This is undoubtedly the truth. He's the most developed
@muffintop8370
@muffintop8370 2 жыл бұрын
interesting the quotations really did help.
@Solfei
@Solfei 2 жыл бұрын
The fact the the stone crusher didn't work was because maybe the stones are diffrent i composition or vibrate at a diffrent wave than the stones from Gamoras universe/timeline. This is not the same as what happened to the Stones in Endgame, the Avenger brought the stones from their own timeline's past into the future, not from another universe. They didn't go to an alternative timeline were Captain America never woke up and retrieve the Tesarrac, they just went to the past to a point when they still existed.
@sillyme2598
@sillyme2598 2 жыл бұрын
That makes sense, technically it's still in their own universe
@ghiggs8389
@ghiggs8389 2 жыл бұрын
All from 'the sacred timeline'
@COLE_PRODUCTIONS
@COLE_PRODUCTIONS 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient one to Bruce: "If I give up the time stone to help your reality, I'm dooming my own"
@harrisonh1782
@harrisonh1782 2 жыл бұрын
@@COLE_PRODUCTIONS I believe while the universe is different, the only difference is the avengers going to it, so the composition of the infinity stones are the same
@kunisettyvinay2908
@kunisettyvinay2908 2 жыл бұрын
yes that's why tva went for loki
@Omochakuma
@Omochakuma 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda realized that since the missing Tony Gamora episode is a happy ending, that should make it a total of 10 episodes that consist of 5 good and 5 bad endings, which would have been perfectly balanced (as all things should be)
@JC_Cali
@JC_Cali 2 жыл бұрын
Can you breakdown which you think are good and which you think are bad pls?
@asr.arcx0000
@asr.arcx0000 2 жыл бұрын
@@JC_Cali Bad: Killmonger, Zombie, Avengers died, Ultron won, Evil Yellow Suit. Good: Party Thor, Tchalla Starlord, Cpt. Carter, Season end ep where they won against Ultron, lastly (suposedly) Gamora- Ironman ep
@jasonlal9570
@jasonlal9570 2 жыл бұрын
@@asr.arcx0000 I think you forgot the doctor strange episode
@ReaperEOD
@ReaperEOD 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonlal9570 Yeah that one was.. rough lol.
@Youneverknow307
@Youneverknow307 2 жыл бұрын
@@asr.arcx0000 Avengers died and evil yellow suit are the same episodes. So yes there will 5 good and 5 bad episodes including dr strange one
@ComicGuy2004
@ComicGuy2004 2 жыл бұрын
Y'know, I thought it extremely ironic that both Gamora and Nat both had the Soul Stone, considering their history with them in the main timeline...
@Dulioothegreat
@Dulioothegreat 2 жыл бұрын
Tony didn’t go to different realities. He just went back in time. So technically he was still in the same univers
@rickeywilliams6223
@rickeywilliams6223 2 жыл бұрын
Great point here
@robh5492
@robh5492 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, then, even though by stealing each stone there were new realities/timestreams created, the avengers were all able to return to the original reality by using the big quantum machine thingy as a quantum anchor.
@XoXoMs.D
@XoXoMs.D 2 жыл бұрын
💯Thank you!!!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿...I keep hearing this...but the fact is the it's the EXACT SAME reality/universe just a different point in time so the stone signatures wouldn't be different 👩🏾‍🎓
@killah_disciple1
@killah_disciple1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Everyone thinks the timeline is synonymous with the multiverse when it's the change in the timeline that creates other universes.
@SlowWinterNuts
@SlowWinterNuts 2 жыл бұрын
Going back in time _creates_ a new universe though. History is a line, but when you travel backwards (or forwards theoretically?) through that line, you create a new timeline wherever you end up, thus creating a new universe; Timelines are synonymous with universes in the MCU. This also applies to choices and chances made in the moment, too, that could branch universes, which What If explores. The only exception to the standard time travel we've seen in the MCU is that What If episode with Strange, where Strange modified the timeline he was in (Instead of creating a new one) using the Time Stone.
@AIBaron10K
@AIBaron10K 2 жыл бұрын
The episode where Clint died claimed that the Zola virus couldn't be uploaded to Ultron Prime because he was extra-universe. But this last episode seemed to have taken place in that universe where Clint died (we see Nat and we see the Zola virus arrow). Why wasn't Ultron Prime immediately infected by the Zola virus upon entering that universe with the Zola-drone?
@maxmargaritis
@maxmargaritis 2 жыл бұрын
Becuase it wasn’t a ongoing thing, it was one big blast sent out in one go, not continuous. He said the reason why it didn’t work was Becuase he wasn’t in that universe NOT it has worked yet Becuase he doesn’t seem to be in the universe.
@shellamuchtar3661
@shellamuchtar3661 2 жыл бұрын
We saw nat has the uploaded arrow already, so nat can transfer zola back to the arrow, before zola shoot her using that ultron sentry... I know this is speculation, but if im nat i would do that for my own safety. That sentry has no legs but still can shoot
@jamestherockwilson3931
@jamestherockwilson3931 2 жыл бұрын
Would have made for a pretty boring episode if Ultron just dropped because of a frequency
@CthulhuTheory
@CthulhuTheory 2 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, the universe where Clint died is the universe Infinity Ultron is from, and when they tried uploading it didn't work because Prime was off chasing the Watcher through the multiverse and frequencies tend not to transmit to other universes.
@davidjones8043
@davidjones8043 2 жыл бұрын
@@CthulhuTheory EXACTLY
@Water_Me_Loan_64_YT
@Water_Me_Loan_64_YT 2 жыл бұрын
The part of the video where Stev & Nat were looking at Life Insurance in the Secret H.Y.D.R.A. Base in New Jersey was Amazing.
@captainnakou
@captainnakou 2 жыл бұрын
I also think that they also used the soul stone in the crusher because it's one of the rare stone that doesn't have a proper powerful power that could backfire and makes it difficult to handle (the power stone needed Ronan's Hammer or the full power of the guardians to be handle, the ether is nasty, space-stone can send you anywhere in the universe and so on). The soul stone is, I believe, the only stone that someone can touch with their bare hands and so, can be used to power a device more safely.
@shaneworthen9276
@shaneworthen9276 2 жыл бұрын
When first recruited, Thor thought it was a trick by Loki. Does frost giant Loki still know magic/ pull these pranks?
@rrrlovebuddy
@rrrlovebuddy 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking about at that time.
@sylviatamieanan4088
@sylviatamieanan4088 2 жыл бұрын
As Frigga said, he was always capable of doing magic.
@K-Viz
@K-Viz 2 жыл бұрын
Frost Giants are inherently magical beings. He always had the magic in him. Maybe not as proficient as the other Loki variants who grew up in Asgard.
@kaggar1
@kaggar1 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me question how exactly did Loki come to be known as God of Mischief? Was it because he was brought to Asgard by Odin?
@K-Viz
@K-Viz 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaggar1 Seems so.
@thekaotikangel561
@thekaotikangel561 2 жыл бұрын
A couple things: I get the stones could be slightly different in different universes, BUT the crusher was powered by one stone of a full set, so why couldn't it adapt to the specific variation of the full set of stones and actually crush them? Also, I thought Tony's suit in Endgame was a product of him getting nanotech using Wakandan vibranium? So, theoretically, if Killmonger's suit could have taken the full force of the stones, so could Tony's. But, the more likely reason is that Killmonger didn't have all 6 since he was missing the mind stone.
@jimflorenceparadela7285
@jimflorenceparadela7285 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he didn't have all 6 stones, also remember he was given the protection spell by strange
@brianhogg358
@brianhogg358 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimflorenceparadela7285 those spells seem to have all worn out in the battle with Ultron.
@sciencesold_
@sciencesold_ 2 жыл бұрын
nano tech doesn't equal vibranium, at least not pure vibranium so a pure vibranium suit that kilmonger has is probably far more durable than the MK 50, even more so if its not vibranium at all
@rizzzzzzzzzzzz
@rizzzzzzzzzzzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@sciencesold_ yeah i thought tony’s was pure vibranium
@iff032
@iff032 2 жыл бұрын
Strange carried the whole show 😂
@TheFreshSoundsFlorida
@TheFreshSoundsFlorida 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! 😂. He had the best episode of the entire season
@13KuriMaster
@13KuriMaster 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing involving "why the soul stone?" It might also juts be the safest to hold. The Time stone was always kept in some sort of container (the eye of Augamoto), The reality stone had ill effects on Jane, the space stone literately warped Red-Skull to a different planet, and the power stone nearly tore apart the entre guardians of the galaxy... so grabbing them could be dangerous to Star Lord Tach'ala. Meanwhile the mind stone is more securely attached to Ultron's body and would be harder to steal, grabbing that could tip him off. Process of elimination, only the soul stone left.
@isaiasizquierdo3369
@isaiasizquierdo3369 2 жыл бұрын
It was a fantastic series. Thank you for doing all the videos.
@kwakhopani1798
@kwakhopani1798 2 жыл бұрын
The Killmonger and Iron man argument is that Tony had just fought in the fight for the universe and Killmonger didn't use the full power of all the infinity stones.
@liryc79
@liryc79 2 жыл бұрын
Besides Tony's just a normal human being where Killmonger is his universe's Black Panther which confers him some abilities in addition to the vibranium suit.
@brianhogg358
@brianhogg358 2 жыл бұрын
The power of the stones was destroying the Iron Man suit before they were used.
@coolo73
@coolo73 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that the stones that Tony used to un-snap everyone, were from the same, main MCU reality, but from different time periods. By Steve returning the stones to the exact point they were taken, the Avengers' actions didn't disrupt anything enough to create branch realities. It was a "time heist", not a "multiverse heist". Of course the branch realities caused by Loki (and I assume Endgame younger Thanos) were removed by the TVA.
@SlowWinterNuts
@SlowWinterNuts 2 жыл бұрын
They'd still be different universes. Even though Steve brought the stones back as cleanly as he could, he _still_ existed in those timelines to take and return the stones, thus making those histories separate from the history of our timeline. Even if you time travelled and caused minimal change, the very time travel itself creates a separate universe where its history differs from the history of your own, because you time travelled at all.
@coolo73
@coolo73 2 жыл бұрын
@@SlowWinterNuts The current logic in the MCU is not the “butterfly effect” where any sort of time travel changes the course of history or creates a branch timeline. It has to be a significant event. In fact that was the whole point of the Sorcerer Supreme’s speech to the Hulk and the reason Steve had to return the stones…so they wouldn’t create any branch timelines. He even says right before going back “clip all the branches”. Also the reason the TVA didn’t bring in the Avengers for crimes…..they didn’t disrupt the sacred timeline at all…only Loki did. Time travel doesn’t automatically create new branch alternate timelines aka different universes, so the stones used in endgame (except for the one Loki stole) stayed in the same reality.
@SlowWinterNuts
@SlowWinterNuts 2 жыл бұрын
@@coolo73 Right, that's why those separate timelines didn't ripple away into something wildly different: Because Steve DID put the stones back. But this still keeps them as separate timelines because Steve as a time traveler doing what he did and the way he did it (As well as the rest of the time traveling Avengers) existed in those timelines' histories, but not in the history of the main timeline. Note: This is also how Steve was able to return the stones at all, as in _his_ reality, the stones weren't missing, so he wouldn't be able to travel backwards in time to return them, but in those branched realities, they were taken, so he goes back to those individual branched realities to cleanly return the stones to minimize the butterfly effect the Ancient One warned Hulk about (Namely the bad what if possibility where the Sorcerors lose the Time Stone and lacked the ability to protect the Earth) It doesn't matter if you permanently stole the stones or put them back, you still branched the timeline by existing at all in a different time. It doesn't matter if the butterfly effect causes many changes or none at all: Your very existence in the past creates a new history where you existed in the past, when in your timelime it didn't. The time travel in Endgame doesn't change history, it creates new histories, and with a new history comes an entirely separate and branched universe where things happened differently, whether big, or as small as simply existing in the past.
@SlowWinterNuts
@SlowWinterNuts 2 жыл бұрын
Also important to note^ When I say new history, I don't mean a _brand_ new history where everything changes, I mean a new history where something as small as you existing in the past is the only difference compared to the history of your timeline.
@rogueintellect
@rogueintellect 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the thing that bugged me most was the utter lack of interaction between Starlord T'Challa and Black Panther Killmonger when they're brought together. It's more of a lost opportunity than a plot hole, but still.
@CantThinkOfaName42
@CantThinkOfaName42 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine for them it was like meeting a cousin you don't know at a wedding. Yea we have connections but... we don't really know each other, plus.. different universes. whereas MCU T'challa met him walking into the country with a known enemy so more connection and reason to interreact.
@rogueintellect
@rogueintellect 2 жыл бұрын
@@CantThinkOfaName42 Fair enough. It's just I imagine T'Challa would have thought, "YOU became Black Panther?" while Eric would have thought, "Wait, didn't I kill you?" It would have been interesting to see a glimpse of reaction upon seeing each other.
@noahdean9685
@noahdean9685 2 жыл бұрын
I really hate the idea of zombie Thanos with or without the Infinity Stones he is still pretty powerful
@nobodyknowsforsure
@nobodyknowsforsure 2 жыл бұрын
why would zombie thanos not cure himself immediately?? hell how would thanos even get infected??
@ZenthosSohtnez
@ZenthosSohtnez 2 жыл бұрын
@@nobodyknowsforsure Ingestion
@nobodyknowsforsure
@nobodyknowsforsure 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZenthosSohtnez feasible but ultimately still easily curable the minute you start to realise it's happening. He can literally reality warp or roll back his time before the infection.
@CthulhuTheory
@CthulhuTheory 2 жыл бұрын
@@nobodyknowsforsure Zombies seem to have the skills of, but not the brains or rationale of their original forms. In other words, he was just a really strong zombie who understands how to wield power, but can't do so tactically. Besides, he's a zombie, and that's harder to kill than he normally is.
@EpicMickeyFanOfficial
@EpicMickeyFanOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
awesome vid! thanks for explaining all this! cant wait for season two, baybee!
@inforafoodawakening
@inforafoodawakening 2 жыл бұрын
I normally can't stand when people have to cut the video off at some random point to pay bills and advertise. But with you, you're the only person that I look forward to seeing how you integrate the advertising into your videos so casually. You always do it so smooth.
@jorgecarbajal8076
@jorgecarbajal8076 2 жыл бұрын
4:57 Despite being vertically bisected by Okoye, zombie Falcon also appears in this scene with zombie Cap and zombie Hawkeye.
@ZeroProko
@ZeroProko 2 жыл бұрын
Technically Zola would be digital. Hes on a flash drive. Not running off of tapes any more
@erikagholston6610
@erikagholston6610 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@DrFudis
@DrFudis 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder if they're going to show the watcher in the gamora tony episode in season 2 or if they are just going to continue from the point where gamora was taken by the watcher as if she had never left.
@rrrlovebuddy
@rrrlovebuddy 2 жыл бұрын
No-one knew about the existence of multiverse apart from guardians of multiverse or maybe uvatu wiped their memory before setting them free😛 heck they might imply that uvatu is narrating story of different Tony and Gamora in season 2.
@redpanda9367
@redpanda9367 2 жыл бұрын
I also liked that these stones were more like gems rather than crystals. That could be the “fraction unique” of that universe
@joeycbn
@joeycbn 2 жыл бұрын
By far one of my favorite channels for breakdowns 🤙🏼🎸
@arthurcampos6238
@arthurcampos6238 2 жыл бұрын
Strange supreme is the strongest character, change my mind
@TheFreshSoundsFlorida
@TheFreshSoundsFlorida 2 жыл бұрын
No arguments there. He is.
@skillfulfighter23
@skillfulfighter23 2 жыл бұрын
Did he consume a universe ending explosion?
@FireJach
@FireJach 2 жыл бұрын
I dont give a shit
@marcomagana8329
@marcomagana8329 2 жыл бұрын
He’s up there in power/ability. I still think as far as every character alive that we have had show up in any MCU Show/Movie, he’s top 3
@jeronimotamez9567
@jeronimotamez9567 2 жыл бұрын
The hydra stomper in the finale is different than the one from the first episode. The chest area has a different shape and detailing, the shoulders have some new vents and the reactor is no longer a rectangle.
@redpanda9367
@redpanda9367 2 жыл бұрын
I think Odin knew where the scepter was, or he may have even hidden it himself after his Infinity Stone quest. It would stand to reason that Loki could have figured out its location at any time in his past, but needed to wait for Odin to enter the Odin Sleep to make any kind of move. Heck, it could have been in Odin’s Treasure Room at one point for all we know. Once Odin was asleep, (knowing he couldn’t single handedly overpower whatever safeguards were in place to keep the scepter hidden and protected) Loki would have conceived of aligning with a powerful conquerer like Thanos. (I would imagine Thanos isn’t hard to find). His forces, or even just the Black Order themselves would be more than enough firepower to acquire it. I would imagine that with Loki’s silver tongue, it wouldn’t be too difficult to convince Thanos that he knew the location of the Mind Stone; and if that’s the case then that could have been what primed Thanos to begin his quest and move to have his gauntlet commissioned. It was also clear in Avengers 1 that Loki was under the Mind Stone’s influence, so Thanos probably used it on Loki just like how Nat did at the end of What If or Steve did to his younger self in Endgame. My guess is that Loki needs to remain nearby the scepter for Thanos’ mind control to stay in effect, which is the only logical reason I can come up with to explain why Thanos entrusted Loki to acquire the Tesseract and why he had the scepter in the first place.
@gallowsradio
@gallowsradio 2 жыл бұрын
That was one hell of an episode
@TheQuincyEdwards
@TheQuincyEdwards 2 жыл бұрын
The Zola analog program has been around for decades too, learning and growing the entire time. He’s way ahead of Ultron’s Intelligence, at the least can match it.
@lidiafsr
@lidiafsr 2 жыл бұрын
how about this plot hole: the missing episode of gamora video was already posted 🤔
@Ali-bu6lo
@Ali-bu6lo 2 жыл бұрын
One question that I have is that why in episode 4, Doctor Strange didn't the time stone to resurrect Christine in the present by just reversing time locally above her grave. We've seen the time stone reversing time in an specific location in Doctor Strange movie.
@jessicawinchester158
@jessicawinchester158 2 жыл бұрын
What is the soul stone? It has always confused me what the power of it actually was
@canceled6041
@canceled6041 2 жыл бұрын
The mind stone, but for the soul instead
@CthulhuTheory
@CthulhuTheory 2 жыл бұрын
I think of it this way: Mind stone = free will. Soul Stone = a Soul (meaning a spiritual existence that extends beyond death - see the Kings of Wakanda after taking the heart shaped herb, and the astral/spirit forms of the Sorcerers Supreme). It's why the mind stone was used to control everyone (took away their free will) and animate and free both Vision and Ultron from the constraints of their AI programming, all while the soul stone requires a sacrifice of a soul to obtain it.
@harrisonh1782
@harrisonh1782 2 жыл бұрын
@@CthulhuTheory yea that makes sense, but it’s still unclear what the soul stone can actually do
@CthulhuTheory
@CthulhuTheory 2 жыл бұрын
@@harrisonh1782 Souls! What's so confusing about souls! We all know what they are, right? .... They're uh... things... and uh... you have 'em... and uh.... Well there you go. Nobody gets to know because we don't really understand souls ourselves. :)
@s.h.5485
@s.h.5485 2 жыл бұрын
Strange supreme looked a lot like mephisto sometimes. Is that just a coincidence?
@koalaTtime
@koalaTtime 2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos hehe
@omegs
@omegs 2 жыл бұрын
yall are pretty close to 1M 👀
@GattisonPrime
@GattisonPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Another reason Dr. Strange agreed to babysit the dimensional prison was because his character has been already shown to be willing to make the "tough decision." When he trapped Dormmamu in the time loop with him, Strange was perfectly willing to spend as many thousands of years as it took to wait out Dormmamu's patience until he was willing to compromise with him. Even if it meant dying a billion times, Strange was willing, because he knew he'd "survive" in the end. Perhaps since he still possesses the Time Stone, he figures eventually, one day, he'll be allowed to leave. He's shown himself to be hopeful and patient, bordering on stubborn.
@howareyou1995
@howareyou1995 2 жыл бұрын
Tony didn’t use stones from three different realities, it was the same timeline which is why they went and put them back. No splits were caused in the timeline (not including Loki$
@jessehugley7609
@jessehugley7609 2 жыл бұрын
The Watcher: "not you Stark!"
@mnothem1
@mnothem1 2 жыл бұрын
If Ultron’s base consciousness came from the infinity stones (specifically the mind stone) the one imbedded in his head and the rest imbedded in his armor does that make him a living manifestation of the infinity stones? So is the will of the infinity stones to take out all of life? Or does this come from the aspects of his code that came from Tony Stark which ultimately confused the living infinity stone organism(which Ultron is)? I ask this because There must have been a purpose for the infinity stones to be in & inhabit a universe, whoever created the infinity stones, there had to be a meaning behind them and the meaning and purpose of them is unclear, the closest meaning that they seem to have is to bewildered by a powerful being and usually that powerful being is tyrannical instead of good. The ancient one speaks of the infinity stones as weapons against evil and that they create the flow of time but why is it that reality does not break when an infinity stone is taken out of a single universe and they tend to fall in the hands of "evil" just as much as the "good"? It seems that it was the celestial that created the stones, and humanoids say it was the big bang. but I think the celestials the stones as an experiment to see how various universe's would utilize them detached from the good or evil. But taking that further why are they running the experiments?
@rrrlovebuddy
@rrrlovebuddy 2 жыл бұрын
He wanted to eliminate all the life even before getting his hands on any of the 6 stones. So i guess it's his own twisted algorithm.
@mnothem1
@mnothem1 2 жыл бұрын
@@rrrlovebuddy His algorithm was based upon the mind stone
@WigantX
@WigantX 2 жыл бұрын
Probably infinity stones are a bit sadistic. The soul stones requires a sacrifice in order to gain it. The mind stone gave, in a stretch, birth to Ultron and unlocked the future powers of the Scarlet Witch. The reality stone almost killed Jane Foster, just because the Ether "decided" to use her as a vessel, despite she wasn't strong enough to survive such power. And speaking of power, the power stone destroys anything organic, except for those strong enough to wield it (mostly entities looking for destruction). The time stones seem to be more friendly, but it never prevented Strange Supreme from using it, hence his universe got destroyed. The space stone sent Red Skull to guard the soul stone, like forever. And the soul stone, well I have already wrote something about it.
@CthulhuTheory
@CthulhuTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Ultron's consciousness is a byproduct of the AI that Tony designed. Just like Vision is JARVIS in the Vision body, but it's the stone that powers and provides consciousness to the body itself. It's ultimately due to the programming of Ultron's AI that leads him to destroy all life. The purpose of the infinity stones themselves is to provide structure to the universe itself, as each represent a core element of each universe's reality: Time and Space are obvious, you gotta have space to place things in and time to traverse it and allow things to happen. Power provides fuel for everything to happen. The mind stone provides free will, while the Soul stone provides a conscious existence. Reality provides the scaffolding to make it all happen.
@CthulhuTheory
@CthulhuTheory 2 жыл бұрын
@@WigantX The mind stone grants free will. Soul stone provides a conscious existence. Power is simply power, energy itself, manifest in the form of the aether and the crystalized stone, and can destroy more than just organic matter; because it's raw power, not everyone is capable of handling it and those that can tend to be the kind that cause destruction (it's correlation due to adaptation towards power itself). The time stone was never directly used by Strange, as he channels the power of the stone via magic, and not through physical manipulation. The space stone was in the form of the tesseract, not the stone itself, and as a cosmic cube was converted into what amounted to be a power source. A battery. Red Skull's transition to Voromir was likely less an act of the Space stone and more likely an act of the celestials, or the soul stone itself. The rules around the soul stone are incredibly nebulous. I was honestly expecting it to be related to Wakanda and the heart shaped herb, since it allows users to see spirits on what I presume is the MCU's astral plane.
@TheNetherNoose
@TheNetherNoose 2 жыл бұрын
Ultron collecting multiple infinity stone sets from, other galaxies would be like rick Sanchez collecting the Gotron Ferrets
@peewypeabody4284
@peewypeabody4284 2 жыл бұрын
Okay. I have to comment on a few of your explanations Ryan: 1) Zola being analog is nonsense. His databanks were analog, but his code would be the some 1s and 0s as any other code. 2) Tony's suit in Endgame _was_ made of vibranium. It was Wakanda nano-tech. Also the GotG tried to use only one Stone (Power-Stone) and it nearly destroyed them all. So that explanation also doesn't hold water. My guess why Kilmonger could withstand the stones and not Tony or the GotG was that him being the Black Panther (aka a Super-Human being) was the reason he could survive.
@xyanaid7221
@xyanaid7221 2 жыл бұрын
tony in sakaar and making a suit for the gladiator fights wouldve been so cool.
@_GeneralMechanics_
@_GeneralMechanics_ 2 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as a coincidence when Agent Carter Universe's Black Widow said "nothing good ever follows "Bernard..." with Jeffrey Wright being The Watcher, not to mention his last line to Uber Ultron Universe's Black Widow saying "the door was only a metaphor."
@klettern_24
@klettern_24 2 жыл бұрын
I think Avengers didn't use stones from 3 different realities but from single reality from different timestamps
@Dismythed
@Dismythed 2 жыл бұрын
It's a big ask, but it would be cool to have a video covering all the callbacks to previous films since WandaVision, including the recent movies like Black Widow. Maybe call it 2021 callbacks. Then do one each year as long as it's not to overwhelming for your researchers. I noticed that no one ever made the association bettween Loki's reaction to a variant being pruned and his brother's reaction to someone being vaporized by the staff in Ragnorok.
@richardjohnson9543
@richardjohnson9543 2 жыл бұрын
Besides Ultron's armor, Killmonger also had the enhanced durability of Black Panther from consuming the heart shaped herb. He could probably do anything short of the Snap without being harmed
@rschuff
@rschuff 2 жыл бұрын
The snap from Tony was with infinity stones from the same reality but at different points in time. The stones were technically from the same timeline/universe/reality (past timeline but still same universe/reality) meaning they still had the same power bc they came from the same universe. Only after the stones were removed did it create a new reality (a variant timeline). Hence the events in Loki that saw the single timeline split into the multiverse if not pruned.
@Rose_Bride
@Rose_Bride 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Tony had a big hand in creating the Infinity Crusher. Eitri the Dwarf was a Craftsman, but we don't know if he has any complete knowledge of the theoretical physics needed to break down the molecular structure of the stones. Now, I'm not saying Tony does, either, but I believe he would have been instrumental in the attempts. The dwarves are absolute _masters_ at building and creating, but seeing as how it took the COMBINED efforts of Tony, Rocket, AND Banner Hulk to create their _own_ version of an Infinity Gauntlet, I don't think it's too farfetched to have Tony and Eitri working together to build the Infinity Crusher.
@davewhitmore1958
@davewhitmore1958 2 жыл бұрын
That Rolling Stones joke? Kudos, sir
@kenlamella8996
@kenlamella8996 2 жыл бұрын
Oh and I love you dog by the way!!!!
@feliperogerio3463
@feliperogerio3463 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest question is how the hell Captain Carter was going even vs a regular man in the beginning of the episode and proceeds to actually be able to fight Ultron, who literally destroyed Captain Marvel on a 1v1 without any difficulty...
@SunshineRey
@SunshineRey 2 жыл бұрын
In defense of the watcher in the last two episode, when he was watching ultra vision, he was the narrator of an already written story, and when he flicks that world closed, he closes the book in order to stop his narration and think for himself, so it’s literally impossible for him to intervene under normal circumstances, since he’s just the narrator. He intervenes in the last episode so that he never has to intervene again, but still, he can’t beat ultra vision himself, so he gets the strongest people he knew from the multiverse to make a team to defeat him, but still he’s a narrator, not the writer or a character in the story.
@pen2kid
@pen2kid 2 жыл бұрын
“How do you explain ________?” “It’s the multiverse.”
@Burhanontheranch
@Burhanontheranch 2 жыл бұрын
"It's the Multiverse, baby!" is really the best answer for every plot hole going forward
@legostar1186
@legostar1186 Жыл бұрын
also killmonger is not using all the stones since the mind stone is still in visions body
@gian8699
@gian8699 2 жыл бұрын
at 5:25 i believe its in the comic books as well he is called 'The Unseen' or something.
@gian8699
@gian8699 2 жыл бұрын
or at least kind of like the unseen because (spoiler alert) nick fury is the real unseen
@killah_disciple1
@killah_disciple1 2 жыл бұрын
Just say there are inconsistencies because of different writers. It's simple. Peggy wouldn't or shouldn't know Nat's fathers name regardless of how close they were since Nat didn't even know. Tony went back in time not to another universe. Explain how Zola and Killmonger were at a stalemate when Killmonger had all but one stone. The power stone strengthens the other stones. How was Zola not destroyed with ease? Do humans not need food or sleep in pocket dimensions? How could Steve possibly be alive in the Hydra Stomper? He only survive being frozen because of the serum. How was Ramonda a general yet a few years later had to be protected by Shuri and Nakia to get out of Wakanda? Why was party Thor the best version to pick for the team? Why wasn't Peter Parker from the zombie universe chosen? He was still alive. Why is Peggy so obsessed with dancing? That one line didn't warrant so many callbacks.
@sachinrane4716
@sachinrane4716 2 жыл бұрын
7:15 Infinity Ultron/Vis Body is also made of Vibranium. Remember how he was able to float away the stones initially from Thanos?
@notarobot2243
@notarobot2243 2 жыл бұрын
What happens to killmonger's world? Since he didn't go back.
@kreiyu
@kreiyu 2 жыл бұрын
it moves on as a better place without him? his universe was not dependent on his existence in it you know. my guess is Shuri and Pepper work to fix all the shit Killmonger wrought. they would probably try to find killmonger to bring him to justice, as they would not have know that he left their universe and they no doubt would have seen him as a continued threat as long as they did not know his whereabouts or have him in custody. but alas, they would never find him.
@Dismythed
@Dismythed 2 жыл бұрын
What about the most glaring plothole of why the stones don't work outside their universes, but Dr. Strange and Ultron are both able to use theirs in a different universe?
@shisah5544
@shisah5544 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment
@WaitingForTheHook
@WaitingForTheHook 2 жыл бұрын
Wandavision and Loki were some of the best MCU stuff and Falcon and What If? were largely mehhh.
@shisah5544
@shisah5544 2 жыл бұрын
Wanda vision was boring asf, the whole thing could’ve been cut down by 3 episodes at least plot wise. It was a basic story that dragged for the sake of fan service
@designerdiva423
@designerdiva423 2 жыл бұрын
Falcon was my fav. I liked all the others they were fun but the multiverse alternative timelines fractured universe variants absolute etc etc bleh way over my head and too convoluted and complicated
@blink182topfan
@blink182topfan 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@peterkambasis
@peterkambasis 2 жыл бұрын
I don't want to smash that bell, that bell tells me when my KZbins are ready!
@NvincibleIronMan
@NvincibleIronMan 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else half expect the Nidavellir scene to show the gauntlet throwing a 👍 as it was lowered into the molten metal? 🤔🤓
@guyjperson
@guyjperson 2 жыл бұрын
Zombie Cap came out of the portal with all his entrails dangling behind him. Same timeline.
@catastrophe9586
@catastrophe9586 2 жыл бұрын
Actually could you explain why the TVA has NEVER interfered with the alternate universes
@Abhinavwl8cx
@Abhinavwl8cx 2 жыл бұрын
Code..... Being analog? Like dark light? Or a weightless black hole? I could go on!
@havokpanok3750
@havokpanok3750 2 жыл бұрын
My only guess for why Hulk and Tony's snap worked was because they retrieved the stones at different points in time in their reality and timeline, meaning that the infinity stones for them are native and unique to their timeline, only differing in what point in time the stones existed and were retrieved before being put back at the moment they were taken, ensuring the prime MCU timeline doesn't completely branch (cough LoKi and Captain America). However in the case of Ultron harnessing the power of the stones from his native timeline across the multiverse is something entirely different. From what we can observe, it appears the stones still function much in the same way they would in their native timeline, but when used inside The Watcher's domain, it appears they can only emit powerful bursts of energy, it's only when they're in any universe do they function as accordingly to each key aspect of existence. What is also known now is that if two of the same stones or even more are used against each other, the effects cancel each other out, but that brings up a question, what happens to a universe if even one stone is missing? As The Ancient One stated in Endgame, millions would suffer and the whole universe would plunge into darkness. As well as what would happen if a universe contains more than 1 native infinity stone and how would that affect the balance in that universe? There's a difference between destroying an infinity stone and outright removing it from a universe, when Thanos destroyed the stones, they were only atomized as the very governing force and power of the stones cannot be destroyed, only the vessel that was used to control that aspect of existence. As for removing it from it's universe all together, if a key aspect of that universe's existence is removed, no one knows, just another of infinite what if scenarios.
@im2cxe4u
@im2cxe4u 2 жыл бұрын
People often forget that Ultron is actually a baby. A super intelligent baby...but still a baby. He's still learning.
@MrSpinYaLifeAround
@MrSpinYaLifeAround 2 жыл бұрын
In endgame the Avengers stayed in there same reality. They just went back in time. They never jumped timelines. Just back in time.
@MrAjCalderon
@MrAjCalderon 2 жыл бұрын
Kilmonger was probably able to survive due to a combination of taking the Purple Heart shaped herb and being essentially a super soldier combined with two layers of vibranium armor and using the stones one at a time.
@CharlezMalasana
@CharlezMalasana 2 жыл бұрын
That stones joke tho… rip Charlie
@JohnFoley1701
@JohnFoley1701 2 жыл бұрын
Killmonger also had the power of the heart shaped herb within him, which may have been sufficient to protect him from the power of the stones. Also, it seems to matter what you’re doing with the stones in terms of how much energy is transferred back to the user. When thanos first grabs all six He attacks thor, but this doesn’t damage him as much as snapping his fingers to cause the blip or when he destroyed the stones.
@shisah5544
@shisah5544 2 жыл бұрын
So with the power of the heart shaped herb and vibranium, you have to wonder why black panther didn’t offer to do the snap in endgame
@ludvigmyklebust8546
@ludvigmyklebust8546 2 жыл бұрын
What is the Keith moon reference an Easter egg from the Howard Stern interview?
@inbar9573
@inbar9573 2 жыл бұрын
I have other plot holes.... 1) why did the watcher take party thor, when he could've taken a much stronger thor like from the main timeline during infinity war? 2) why was steve in the hydra stomper? At the end of episode 1 he was out of the armour, with his frainds and red skull defeated 3) what happened to the killmonger universe? The other guardians went straight to where and when they were taken from, but killmonger was stuck at the pocket reality at the end 4) like you said in the video, the zombies can't have been the ones from the zombie episode, because of cap and sam, but at the end of episode 5 we didn't get to see what happened to bucky, bruce and wanda. And also what happend with thanos, because if they defeated him, they should have no problem curing the zombies, and then all of the zombies that are not dead would be back, and most of the avengers would just be dead? That episode just didn't end very clearly at all. Also I don't get the zombie rules, they want to eat humans, but most of the time thwy just bite them and they become zombies, and they can't eat each other. So yeah....
@julianbashir8277
@julianbashir8277 2 жыл бұрын
Zombie Steve was only cut in half. We didnt see his whole body
@chapman8369
@chapman8369 2 жыл бұрын
Hydra Steve in iron man suit, looks fun
@PDash919
@PDash919 2 жыл бұрын
Tony didn't use stones from different realities. He used stones from different points in time. Same Universe. Same Reality. Same Sacred Timeline. That is why in Loki, it was said that what the Avengers did was supposed to happen. Had Cap not returned the stones back to their original places, that would have branched off into different realities.
@ironspider23
@ironspider23 2 жыл бұрын
I love this Video Rayan Also Your Dog is Very Cute What is Name I forget his name????????!!!!!!!!! Also this was very Amazing I love all your videos Ryan!!!!!!!!?????????
@sarpicarlos
@sarpicarlos 2 жыл бұрын
ok ok ok ... maybe we can see a Captain Hydra in season 2??
@sammysamiam5219
@sammysamiam5219 2 жыл бұрын
My one and only big question is how does Steve as the Winter soldier work? Is he like a nuke, they just sent him onto one spot and he has to just completely wipe out everything with no witnesses because I don’t see how a giant green robot bigger then my garage powered by a giant blue brick that can open up portals to anywhere in the universe would really be that great of an Secret assassin.
@SamLanena
@SamLanena 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Inigo Montoya callback.
@oceanman8659
@oceanman8659 2 жыл бұрын
Why did the watcher choose who he did out of a whole multiverse with stronger people?
@prayasbhadauria9621
@prayasbhadauria9621 2 жыл бұрын
4:30 Endgame stones are not from another realty. They are from same realty/world (universe) but from different time(s).
@arthuratkins5902
@arthuratkins5902 2 жыл бұрын
@screencrush, how did Ultron follow them without the soul stone after the sticky fingers got it and the Watcher ‘ported them away?
@donstarplayz
@donstarplayz 2 жыл бұрын
A “causal loop” is what you are thinking of :)
@realityrebel4687
@realityrebel4687 2 жыл бұрын
I've got two plot holes I'm curious about. 1 - How can the infinity stones that Ultron is using work in other universes, I thought they only work within their said universe 2 - At the end of the episode Fury mentioned that Natasha wasn't his, like he knows of the multi-verse or something. I thought this was weird since not to many characters would know of other universes or variants. Any thoughts on these?
@kreiyu
@kreiyu 2 жыл бұрын
well the mcu seems to be changing that rule a bit. as far as i can tell, in the mcu, the stones can indeed work in other universes. unlike in the comics. there's a theories that ulrons body acted like a battery to carry their energy to other universes. or that somehow ultron kept a "link" to his universe that extended to where ever he was. but like i said, i think that they are just changing how they work in the mcu as opposed to the comics. no reason is really necessary for that to happen. as for why they didn't work in the TVA? maybe the YVA just blocked all energy powers? maybe the TVA is in it's own separate reality out side of space and time that had no big bang energy for the stones to use? and yeah, it is kind of weird that Fury would recognize her as not being the real natasha and not instantly assume some kind of deception. of course he was under attack by an army of loki's so... maybe his mind is just open to crazy possibilities at that point lol.
@realityrebel4687
@realityrebel4687 2 жыл бұрын
@@kreiyu those are fair theories, I personally like the he's body being a battery or something. It would somewhat provide the idea that they would normally be useless but since he was made from a stone and had a body made with same stone it allowed for a better connection to continue using them, or at least that's how my mind thinks of it heheh
@tomisin3754
@tomisin3754 2 жыл бұрын
captain carter said 'don't i get a happy ending'. Maybe the watcher bought back steve for her as a reward
@Van-xk7gn
@Van-xk7gn 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that Tony's snap worked because the stones weren't not from different realities, but instead different points in time of the same reality.
@chrisrodriguez3053
@chrisrodriguez3053 2 жыл бұрын
How was Ultron able to cut through the infinity gauntlet when it's made of uru
@storyofamo9154
@storyofamo9154 2 жыл бұрын
Respectfully these were answers I knew and the more difficult answers weren’t touched on at all.
@dockerzipperpusher30
@dockerzipperpusher30 2 жыл бұрын
Uatu was legit surprised at the end of the party Thor episode. Most likely the events of finale and the end of the party Thor episode were around the same time. Ulton only discovered the multiverse because Uatu went back to that time in that universe to narrate. We didn't get back to real time until ulton broke into the multiverse and Uatu started collecting heroes.
@minipehkka
@minipehkka 2 жыл бұрын
they weren’t from different realities, different realities were enabled post loki
@alancarnell2747
@alancarnell2747 2 жыл бұрын
The world was different after Peggy became Captain Britain. Her Natasha very well could've known.her birth father. Yall don't understand time variances on discretely different quantum states.
@AethericSoul
@AethericSoul 2 жыл бұрын
What was the Watchers purpose for Party Thor? Why was he the most capable Thor for the Guardian’s of the Multiverse?
@DaGraphittiX
@DaGraphittiX 2 жыл бұрын
What if Hydra brainwashed Steve and froze him to use him later like hydra used the Winter Soldier against Cap. Just asking
@Covnam
@Covnam 2 жыл бұрын
Ultron/Zola using the soul stone to pull the other 5 stones makes sense, but then how was Killmonger pulling them back to himself?
@dha616
@dha616 2 жыл бұрын
How Loki got scepter in the last episode,Loki was not fell down from bifrost bridge.
@Juicembk
@Juicembk 2 жыл бұрын
In the mcu…the stones didn’t come from different universes or realities. They came from the same universe just different time lines and changes to those time lines cause different realities. Like the timelines flows the same way but then cause a different realities like when loki takes the stone….ie what if Loki took the space stone
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