What if Superman Was Evil? (Injustice Lore)

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

So this is something different! This video is for the people who want a basic introduction to the series. Oddly enough there isn't too many spoilers in terms of character deaths, mostly overarching themes. Also here is the link of DSC if you missed it. www.dollarshaveclub.com/althistory.

[@zzzzzzzzzzzz-11]

HELLO CODY

[@raginginnuendo4113]

Great video. You have my props.

[@ultra4188]

SHAZAM DIES LOL

[@arsenewenger6985]

AlternateHistoryHub is this really history?

[@patrickfrancis1764]

Thank you for uploading anther video I just love seening the your videos also can you do a What if video about what would happen if Nazi Germany rose up again plz plz plz!!!!!

[@dokdirge]

Superman: "I could've prevented Metropolis..saved my family!" Batman: "Crime took my family too, Clark." Superman: "But you weren't the gun!"

[@theliedetector2199]

Now that was brutal

[@simonwallace2848]

Such a good line, as well.

[@bryanpseno4203]

dokdirge exactly why I like Batman.

[@stickboianimations2273]

Can't they bring Lois back to life

[@holstfly1]

All these amazing comics and they just couldn't start the DCMU right

[@ladysnake8449]

Joker: Don't you see Superman I won! Superman: You died, how is that winning? Joker: I made you lose control!

[@genericname5909]

He became the joker in a way

[@Tearakan]

Yep joker won by breaking Superman and plunging the world into a nightmare dictatorship with ironically more chaos. He’s laughing it up in hell.

[@gmat5046]

Devil wont let joker into hell. He knows that he would take over😶

[@kermitmuppet5610]

Lady snake84 Noo no noooo N O O O

[@u-2012]

@@gmat5046 Being cast into the coldest darkest abyss imaginable is a better punishment for Joker than going to Hell.

[@GuildsmanPirate]

“Joker ironically becomes a figure head of rebellion” doesn’t seem so strange nowadays

[@damnedlegionaire]

We do live in a society, you know.

[@noiwvernsonic1358]

Technichally Joker was actually the one who caused everything

[@blackog7820]

Maybe that was the goal all along (?

[@hhgff778]

@@blackog7820 but Superman wasn't like that before Joker planned this, so it doesn't make sense why would he want rebellion in his name if there wasn't a reason for it yet

[@jockeyfield1954]

joker: *nukes an entire city* edgy 14 year olds: damn, this is totally me

[@Tarbtano]

"What if Superman Was Evil?" years later and DC can't seem to STOP asking this question

[@michaelsantamaria5295]

"How is possible that image comic manage to do it better than us? Just keep pumping out more until be beat them"

[@OmniDan26]

@@michaelsantamaria5295 injustice was far better than invincible.

[@michaelsantamaria5295]

@@OmniDan26 Bhahahahahhahahhahahah Sure thing buddy i guess if you never ready a Dc comic ever

[@OmniDan26]

@@michaelsantamaria5295 What are you talking about? I've spent hundreds of hours in the library reading dc and marvel comics. Are you daft?

[@SpiderMan23000]

@@OmniDan26 Omniman can ask for Spider-Man pictures in the Daily Bugle, Superman no. Omniman 1 - Superman 0

[@Maribro4]

I love how D.C. Is either extremely kid friendly or dark as hell

[@makingawaymakingaway759]

Ikr there's no middle ground

[@echidnanatsuki882]

Meanwhile, Marvel is a perfect mix of both XD

[@night-seeker666]

@@echidnanatsuki882 Perfect is a strong word.

[@Emiya491]

@@echidnanatsuki882 idk man, Marvel also doesn’t have an in between

[@jonathanwilshaw1133]

So dark, are you sure you're not from the DC universe?

[@brandynharwell]

Question: If Superman was Evil Patrick: EVERYONE DIED..THE END...

[@drakkonem]

*LMAO*

[@JustAJosuke]

Batman: Well yes, but actually no

[@ohyeahyeah-ig7qh]

why did superman dont use the time travel?

[@faster_xx]

Even though the bat fans and every other hyppocrite fans coming on KZbin saying how they used to love Superman and wonder woman and now they don't anymore. Superman wasn't all evil because he still cared for some of the things that happened and he let Batman lived when he could have easily finished him off, no one in that universe was right and that includes Batman.

[@JustAJosuke]

@@faster_xx Batman had covertly made several ways to beat everyone in the justice league including himself, but of course he's not perfect, his parents were murdered giving him permanent psychological damage.

[@DopedFiend]

Joker’s injustice plan is amazing. Really thought out and well planned.

[@scottmantooth8785]

well funded as well or so it would seem

[@bendaonfire0078]

I actually wonder how bad can it be if someone just time travel and stops the joker

[@jamesayewale5695]

It's very overcomplicated and convoluted. If he wanted to kill Lois Lane and Metropolis, he could've just blown it up. Superman would've gone through the same thing he went through in the normal timeline.

[@thesurvivlist5440]

@@jamesayewale5695 Well, Joker more a less would find more joy in Superman killing his wife soo...

[@jamesayewale5695]

@@thesurvivlist5440 There are several different ways to mind-control Supes, it still would've been easy.

[@bobbybrown2291]

"I wash my hands because I'm a good guy." is a reference to JLU when Flash and Lex Luthor switch bodies and "Evil headed guy" asks Wally in Luthor's body "Aren't you going to wash your hands." and he replies "No, because I'm evil." and that concludes my comment that no one cares about.

[@whitewolf5069]

I care..

[@OGMoonKnight]

We care bro

[@madcracker8077]

I don’t, but cool comment bro

[@affirmingtoe15]

All it takes is one bad day

[@thetoaster7456]

Nice reference

[@kylegilliam5389]

Insane Legend I don't get it... ._.

[@affirmingtoe15]

I took the quote from Alan Moore's classic Batman comic The Killing Joke, in which The Joker kidnaps Gordan, paralyses Barbara, and than proceeds to psychologically tortures Gordan, just to show than anyone can became insane after just one really bad day.

[@kylegilliam5389]

AffirmingToe Thanks.

[@affirmingtoe15]

You're welcome

[@jpjp6077]

"Superman is the spirit of classic Americana, to the point that he's even seen as a boy scout" Superman: "Never even made it to my first merit badge"

[@rimfire8217]

Apparently the Boy Scouts were founded in Britain.

[@jejrjrjrfifjjdjdj2128]

No replies after 3 years and 347 likes

[@jpjp6077]

@@jejrjrjrfifjjdjdj2128 Just how I intended it

[@ProjektTaku]

breaking superbad

[@thunder_bug_1451]

You should do “red son” too. It’s an official what if Superman landed in Russia comic.

[@octav3k]

@Rust e It's out! And it's amazing!

[@erika002]

So he's basically ВЛУАТМАН? Communist Superman....I have to see this

[@JodaroKujo]

@@erika002 yes

[@potato-we1km]

there is a similarity between evil superman and Soviet superman: both try to make a world free of crime and a Batman trying to stop him Edit: please note that they have different causes for their motives and these are 2 separate universes

[@thunder_bug_1451]

@@potato-we1km true true red son batman was much more morally grey

[@cin3madelight]

Scooby doo gang rolls up on The Injustice timeline. Fred: let's see who's really under that mask. (Removes mask) Everyone: *gasp* it's The Boys!

[@dailycookie-cutter2500]

This is such a good joke

[@eliasgibson4743]

GERALD HEIMENBURG not to get wooooshed or anything but injustice came out long before the boys did

[@skeletoncrew6500]

@@eliasgibson4743 the boys came out in 2006 and injustice was out in 2013 so

[@iangabrielalcantara7756]

* Homelander intensifies *

[@centricthemedic1517]

@ I disagree. DC has some amazing stories. Don't get me wrong The Boys (TV Show) is incredible, but there have DC Comics storylines that are just as good, if not better.

[@lunosol8914]

Superman automatically the worst person alive when he crossed the line on Alfred he was innocent

[@ronanthesuperginger]

Luno Sol he comes back

[@ricardolainez395]

But why ALFRED Alfred is love Alfred is life.

[@Erikard-iw4zv]

alfred was easily one of the top 10 characters in injustice in my opinion

[@someweirdo1486]

He killed Shazam, who is just a kid, because he asked "Are you sure we should be doing this?" Or something like that, Alfred was brought back via a Lazarus(?) pit, and when I dont remember if it was Jason Todd, or Damian Wayne who Bruce Wayne was fighting, and Alfred somehow stood up when before he couldnt even lift his head, told them to stop, and hugged Bruce

[@Dunge0n]

Well DC couldn't have you actually *rooting* for someone who killed the Joker, can they? Especially not Superman. Comics still can't just admit to kids that some bastards needed a bullet yesterday...

[@That80sGuy1972]

Injustice is proof of how awesome Joker is as a bad guy. It is a top-tier Joker victory, a victory would enjoy even if he had future knowledge he would die from it. The Joker is all about being a dog who chases cars and making people break their own morality, rules, and sanity... using their own standards against them. He is a true sadist that is metaphorically sustained by the tears of those who he broke. He's the perfect anti-Batman... reverse on the insanity perception and actual insanity. Batman seems super-sane, but he's a driven genius madman. Joker seems like chaos itself, but he's a genius who drives his madness. Batman is driven by hyper-morality based in PTSD, Joker is borderline super sane who can pick and choose how his trauma drives him... his choices are slaves to his madness but he is hyper-aware of them, thus paradoxically super-sane.

[@jvbutalid8316]

joker is a violent poet who will go beyond oofing metropolis just to prove a point. batman is the guy who "calls" him out for it

[@Fallenangel_85]

But turning Superman lead to Order, not chaos. Since dictatorships are very much high Order situations.

[@That80sGuy1972]

@@Fallenangel_85 Order without freedom is a prison, better to have chaos and its evils than to live in such a box. Benjamin Franklin was light years ahead of his time when he said that those willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

[@Fallenangel_85]

@@That80sGuy1972 It's a balancing act, you don't want total freedom or total control. There is still lots of freedoms in Supermans dictatorship. It's not like he is forcing you into a job you don't want, or relocating you, or preventing your from traveling.

[@That80sGuy1972]

@@Fallenangel_85 I know. I get it. His PRISON has a lot of liberties in it. He went from being an angel (super-powered servant of good) to being a warden (dictator who runs things as he sees fit), a bad transition. No matter how great the dictator, power always passes on to someone else and that will lead to a bad apple. Either the "good" dictator turns bad or the next guy is worse, no absolute power ends well... ever. The love/lust for power corrupts. That truth has been proven over the eons by all cultures. Better the chaos of eternal anarchy than the order of one great man's brief dictatorship. From chaos, cooperation and good rise. From order, corruption and the most insidious infect. The dynamic cannot be contained by one man. It must be many people representing all interests at all times. Nobody achieved that yet but it's better that unattainable goal than one person calling all the shots.

[@LeonardoHamato]

Don't kill, Just give 'em very, very bad head injuries

[@firstnamelastname7079]

Just create a jail with every person who works there are superman clones and put all the criminals in there

[@AlpenSkyWatcher]

Free lobotomies for bad guys

[@cjr9996]

Don't start with the head, the victim gets all fuzzy.

[@thecolorpurple6401]

*That's* a trip to the ICU.

[@tuber138]

Something tells me that's a fate worse than death

[@ethanwinters1469]

Superman:exist Little green rocks: im about to end this mans whole career

[@rap1d29]

Green rocks: I'm about to end this man.

[@jaylochneemunsamy9020]

F

[@absolutez3r019]

While krytonite is dangerous, it never stopped Superman from tearing apart Luthor's kryptonite battle suits

[@jacksonreichle4777]

Superman: exists Red light: I'm about to end this man's whole career

[@everythingict3259]

Sun exists: Injustice superman: I'm gonna rule this world

[@kulatoid]

Only Joker got what he wanted

[@Torag55]

He made Superman descend into lunacy and lose control, and look at what happened: an oppressive dictatorial regime happened.

[@emperorpalpatine2957]

Tello Joker doesn't care for life not even his

[@someweirdo1486]

@Aspiring Marauder he actually is not insane, he's "Super Sane", meaning he is more sane than anyone ever, and thus knows that he is just a fictional character, occasionally turning the pages in comics, sometimes a subtle wink to the viewer in an animated series, etc., but because he is super sane, when he fell into a chemical that would make others insane, it made him normal-sane, and regretful for everything, and one time he thought he had killed the batman, he thought maybe its not a fiction, there cant be a villain without a hero, he got a normal life, but bats of course came back, and then it started all over again, watch "Imaginary Axis":s video on "The Psychology of The Joker", there is also one on the Punisher

[@Dunge0n]

@Aspiring Marauder There *are* different incarnations of the Joker. It sounds like you're pissed off about the very idea of nihilism... maybe just psychos who kill in the name of it and really don't care if they live or die. Plenty don't, sadly. There's a ton of serial killers who didn't care they were going to die. Some thought it's hilarious how much money the state spends on giving them easy deaths. Especially if they tortured people. That's what they deserve. That's what they used to get, everywhere.

[@Dunge0n]

@John Newman ...You think only men like the Joker would murder him for tricking them into killing their wife and unborn son, for laughs? Because you sound insane.

[@beoronick9105]

Video:"He is an overwhelming good guy" I look down at the next two videos's thumbnails being Superman punching straight through Joker's chest. Me: "OK then..."

[@danielpedraza6455]

Comicstorian?

[@modelszmk.2930]

@@danielpedraza6455 yep

[@polio-head5852]

When I was little kid when i played injustice i though he grab jokers you know because how low superman's hand was

[@dariuzthemacaroni1308]

are you saying killing the joker would be morally abhorrent?

[@waynedeacon2736]

The second thumbnail for me is superman strangling batman

[@joshpvgvideogamesandanimer5054]

Technically, the only reason superman continued killing was because Diana, as batman stated, stoked Clarks fire

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

JoshPVG | Video Games and Anime Reviews Diana didn't stroke Clark's ego she just tried to seduce him and led him astray to the path of genocide because how Deathstroke puts it, "and get a chance to meet Superman's rebound chick fat chance".

[@robensmonteau161]

Yep, wonder woman is partly to blame.

[@kylemagaro3163]

@@robensmonteau161 Well there's a reason she's different, her origin was different. She wasn't really wonder woman.

[@manuelgutierrez9932]

I feel like every alternative universe Wonder Woman becomes evil faster than everyone else

[@kylemagaro3163]

@@manuelgutierrez9932 Right? I think it's because she was born a warrior preparing for a great war for her entire life. Kind of the same reason Hawk Girl goes bad a lot too. Plus she's one of the only ones that's strong enough that when she becomes evil she is a threat to everyone.

[@donkylefernandez4680]

"The Man of Steel, reduced to nothing more than a man with an iron fist."

[@ProjektTaku]

great like.

[@dragonslair951167]

I like how this story also teaches the lesson that small steps corrupt. The first time you compromise your morals is rarely the last. It's almost never "just this once". The more you indulge your dark side, the more it will take control of your life and the harder it will be to stop. But Hitler didn't go from an art student to a power-hungry, genocidal warmonger overnight. Stalin didn't go from a meteorologist to a ruthless, murderous dictator overnight. Turning a hero into a villain is a process that requires months or even years of disappointment, failure, loss and compromise. To be a true hero, you have to have a moral compass and you must follow it even when it seemingly gets in the way of justice, or else you risk slowly becoming the very thing you set out to destroy. But no singular event, no matter how traumatic, can turn a shining icon of justice into a bloodthirsty psychopath overnight.

[@DeSardet46]

This goes to the people that say Batman should kill just the Joker and that's it.

[@dragonslair951167]

@@DeSardet46 Indeed. Once Batman killed the Joker, he would have to ask himself: why not kill Scarecrow too? Two-face? Poison Ivy? Bane? Killer Croc? Black Mask? Ra's Al Ghul? They've all committed atrocities and they show no signs of stopping. Then he'd have to ask: why not kill every other superhero's Rogues gallery? Every murderer on the streets who still draws breath? And then, why not kill all the ruthless third-world dictators that have ordered the deaths of countless innocents? And then, all the shady first-world and second-world politicians who have done terrible things to preserve their own power? And then, the CEOs and directors of all the corporations (Like tobacco companies, for example) who knowingly cause the deaths of thousands in the name of profit? And then all the drug dealers who sell poison to impressionable children? The thieves who ruin the livelihoods of others for their own personal gain? Where does it end? Of course, in the real world, people like the Joker would have been executed long ago by the justice system, but the point still stands. It's a slippery slope.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

@@DeSardet46 Batman's whole thing is to incite fear into the hearts of criminals. At this point, all criminals know that he will not kill them. Whence come the fear? Without fear, why the bat?

[@DeSardet46]

@@DarkAdonisVyers let's see you put a brave face when a dark shadow figure comes out of nowhere to break the kneecaps off your buddy.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

@@DeSardet46 Oh, you mean the common thugs that the GCPD gets paid tax dollars to fight? I was thinking more the actual main villains who the cops actually need Batman for... Also, does this mean that you are OK with Batman permanently crippling villains? I don't see Joker limbless either.

[@Pokemon_Doge]

I always thought of this as DC's civil war

[@yhggggvbb]

And civil war just a cheap knock off of dark knight returns 😂😂

[@vigil_vigil7802]

Nidhish m nair wut lole

[@noobguy3547]

No. It would be Kingdom Come.

[@yhggggvbb]

@Alex The Awsome but supes had a point....if he didn't do it... govt will send someone else.....and they might not have sympathy for Bruce Wayne as Clark kent does

[@danielpedraza6455]

But better

[@mispaired_]

He wouldn’t be Superman... He would be Super MEAN

[@theroverseblahblah]

This made my day

[@game-tuber5083]

I love that you said that.

[@minecraftore1232]

Mispaired 😂😂😂

[@MrGreenDay1987]

Leave

[@Zeezeebot]

pudum thudd

[@j.l.7455]

So I watched Two hours worth of comicstorion’s version of this, to just have this explained in like seventeen minutes?

[@Diamondragan]

Maybe just watch the full game movie here on KZbin?

[@jockeyfield1954]

@@Diamondragan that doesn't go over why hal's a yellow lantern, why ollie's dead, why damian's nightwing, and much more. and even if it does through a throwaway line, it's better showing than hearing

[@ProjektTaku]

@@jockeyfield1954 yeah, its nice how the comics showcase the 5 year timeskip instead of just mentioning. Its kinda like how the young justice show's comic's (and planned movie) showed what happened in the 5 year timeskip between seasons 1 and 2.

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

Every Villain(and some heroes) Is Lemons

[@TheCatLoverLord]

Pajamapants Jack Hey that's make sense

[@vloneskull1460]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil!!!!!

[@jameswolf4894]

Ahhhh....make out reef....good times...good times.

[@cobravenom1316]

Kevin Canchola *Making out with pillow, police discover him* HEY MAN THATS NOT COOL

[@the_Kutonarch]

There was the Justice League and the Teen Titans, now a new league of villains and heroes shall form, and it shall be know as: LEMON PARTY!!! Google it today!

[@cisco3111]

What if my Dad never left?

[@anthonythefirst9451]

Cisco Blue You, me, and the majority of America would live in a fixed family.

[@amaryllis1826]

well your mom would leave

[@saltysocks1074]

Cisco Blue less Sunday night beatings and more inappropriate "wrestling" matches

[@yourethatmantis5178]

I swear you asked something like this before. I think it was something like "what if my mom wasn't in jail?"

[@cisco3111]

You'reThatMantis nyet

[@superposition3717]

Superman sounds like a Greek God in this sense, very emotional and extremely powerful. Except in this case this Greek God does not have the type of checks and balances the Greek God myths had. Being so close to one another they couldn't do a lot without being noticed by everyone else and being stomped.

[@bryanmcclure2220]

UnleashedWarrior I would say actually that Superman ( Injustice Universal aside) has a million times more self-control than any Greek god

[@rileythomas7097]

*Cough* "Injustice GODS Among Us"

[@Fire-in-the-sky]

whats this bullshit comments? superman does have "checks and balances". he would get pummeled if no had sided with him. people have this crazy idea that he is super powerful (which he is) and unstoppable (which he isnt). he lives in a universe filled with beings like him. he can be defeated in a million and one ways.

[@rileythomas7097]

John 117 lol. Especially when his all his powers can be permanently taken by golden kryptonite.

[@camcarmichael8996]

golden kryptonite doesn't permanently take away his powers I think it has random effects each time or maybe that's red kryptonite that does that I'm not sure?

[@wilianrodrigues5280]

6:35 Where when Superman is evil, Lex Luthor is good. That’s how it happens in timelines in DC.

[@Matthew-Anthony]

Aren’t those alternate realities?

[@AbudBakri]

LOL 1:10 WOMEN STUDIES MAJOR. *SHOTS FIRED*

[@vendetta7221134]

Luckily this channel is just a sausage fest. Carry on Alternatehistoryhub. :)

[@cm01]

EVERYWHERE!!! SEE WHAT I MEAN???

[@poots605]

Caleb McCall I KNOW RIGHT?

[@vavin1881]

Your really good at advertising your channel I see your comments everywhere

[@-kxvin-5239]

STOP FOLLOWING ME

[@AnarchoCatBoyEthan]

There is a comic called Irredeemable with a similar premise, an all powerful man that goes crazy and it is amazing. Highly recommend.

[@juliendacoolien3454]

Injustice Irredeemable Invincible Seeing a pattern here.

[@concept5631]

@@juliendacoolien3454 Oh boi.

[@miguelversestudios4309]

@@juliendacoolien3454 The Boys and brightburn

[@Ndasuunye]

@@juliendacoolien3454 dont forget omniman

[@abrashio]

Irredeemable is much better than Injustice

[@sonofedis]

I was loving the i justice storyline, until superman straight up murdered shazam. I mean wtf

[@brucejedilee5290]

That suprised you? He had killed anyone who dared question him way before that. Plus Shazam would be a mayor threat if he turned on him

[@Annabeth269]

I saw it coming. It wasn't surprising. Super literally destroyed the whole green lantern core! and became a yellow lantern.

[@elguerotapatio9258]

🎵shoooooock va-ha-lee-uuuuuu🎵

[@ricardolainez395]

The true threat was Alfred

[@petrspetsnaz630]

Alfred such a troll, he mentions how he beat him in year 5

[@blackwatertv7018]

“I don’t like real world politics in my comics!” Injustice timeline: “you sureeeee?”

[@ninjaturtlefan2003]

Huge difference between an entertaining story that has politics versus a political propaganda piece.

[@edcaous]

Injustice was written to entertain, not to push politics. It was first a video game, that didn't have any deep messaging or even that great of a story. The comics were written as a prequel to the games. Its writers did try to add nuance, but they didn't have much room to work with because it was already predetermined that Superman had to become the villain by the time the game takes place. That first complaint is directed towards hack writers unsubtly pushing propaganda pieces from their political leanings, which leave a bad taste in the reader's mouth. Comparing the work of Injustice to some of the things Marvel's been doing recently, such as drawing your political enemies as the evil villains without any nuance, or attempting (and failing) to make a direct analogy between what you have drawn to an existing system is already low enough. It's worse when you don't have the writing to back up the message you're trying to convey. Injustice has been criticized for many things, but at the very least it is understandable and entertaining, compared to something like Marvel's Civil War 2, which makes NO sense and pretty much has no redeeming qualities.

[@NoahDaArk]

@@ninjaturtlefan2003 Injustice presents both sides at face value, showing their good sides and their bad sides. It does what *any* good commentary should do: be neutral!

[@theillusionaryone]

Batman: You shouldn’t rule by fear Also Batman: Dresses as a bat to instill fear into his enemies to keep gotham safe *SCREAMS INTERNALLY*

[@mozuesolympian2988]

Batman doesn't rule, he puts power back in the hands of the people from criminals. Unless were talking about one of those other batmen.

[@tobyharrison4702]

I think that Batman just wanted to strike fear into his enemies. Not literally everyone like a dictator does to hold on to power.

[@thegamingcow6959]

Made it 69 also good point

[@sabulatron3769]

Batman doesn’t “rule” Gotham...

[@awesomefox555]

The key word is “RULE”

[@pcjaxson1003]

"If you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world stays the same." -Batman

[@cancerjuly1989]

"That's why I don't stop at one killer" - Punisher

[@Fish4Man61]

Except, what if the person already did it before? :) I think Batman likes to deal in absoluteville, which is his main problem in the series, and he comes off dense. The problem though is, Superman comes across as just far worse, as he turned into a full fledge "fuck your liberties, I will kill who I want, based on who I feel deserves it" type of dictator.

[@arttulehmonen4436]

cancerjuly1989 and killing those killers you inspire more people to kill more killers and create more killers who believe killing is the right answer. And then we have the people who want to avenge the people killed by the original killer of killers who started killing killers.

[@ucy7458]

what if i kill 2 killers?

[@TheGreektwelve]

If there are 100 Killers and you kill one there will be 100 again, but if you kill all of them there will be only one

[@majesticed9329]

"The road to hell is paved with good intention"

[@sahilhossian2449]

"So why not do the opposite"

[@jenniferpruitt6534]

I see Superman here as much more of a tragic character. Losing his family and those who kept him grounded, he's a lost soul who lashes out and so happens to have powers. Who knows, maybe there were things that pointed this way before Lois was killed. The Joker is truly a cerebral individual. Here, he couldn't beat Superman physically so he exploited his mind. Using those he loves. That is a true mark of a brilliant villain right there.... Either die as the hero or live long enough to become a villain. This is what happened here with Superman....

[@lukaswieland2092]

Cody just destroyed all the women's studies majors in one fell swoop. Damn

[@CoolJoshido212]

Bernie on fleek fr

[@Strideo1]

Bernie on fleek What? Did I miss something?

[@Paragon231]

1:09

[@Strideo1]

FA S Thanks. Clearly I just wasn't paying attention when he said that.

[@NO-yn4wr]

I was dying

[@stuffandthings834]

Oh yeah, and Alfred beat the crap out of supey.

[@claigeannccda302]

Stuff And Things he just knocked him out.

[@shahidakhuhro3490]

ShadowCaveSpider after beating the shit out of him like a badass

[@SpookyGhostGoku]

Aamer Kastoff Superman didn’t _let_ anything happen, what do you mean?

[@jjjbj5965]

"I wash my hands because I'm a good guy" Having lived through the pandemic this just hits different

[@pancakes8816]

Not even that, remember when the flash and Lex switched bodies and he was like "im not washing my hands cause I'm evil"

[@sirjj3123]

"The Emolj Movie is Getting a Sequel"

[@tomsmurf4225]

Sir JJ my personal hell

[@keatonthekoopatroopa246]

Sir JJ for real?!?!?

[@merrittanimation7721]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[@thc4825]

YEEEAAAAHHH

[@triggeredguy9863]

What the dank mlg meme movie

[@Archon3960]

I also really recommand the "Superman vs the Elite" comic. It really paints what Superman is fighting for, what limits does he place on himself and why he's kind of a boyscout at times.

[@RoyalInspiration]

“The Man of Steel uses his power to rule with a iron fist.” Me:You mean Steel Fist

[@Matt_JJz]

It really shows that The Joker is one of the best villains. He did not care that Superman was going to kill him, he wanted Superman to kill him. Breaking a literal god would do more damage to the world than The Joker could ever do, and The Joker knew this. If Joker was still alive, he would of been laughing the entire time.

[@twoclownin]

Gotta be honest. If I was tricked into killing my pregnant wife. I mean seriously... Who the fuck wouldnt snap? Idc how numb you are. To be accepted as a hero and role model to millions of people and finding love on a foreign planet only to have it be destroyed by a psychotic man. That's heavy as fuck. Of course I do not agree with supermans actions, but I can't blame him for how he turned out.

[@User-es3em]

[P1] Moon Tempehh Joker had a fucking nuke onto his pregnant wife's heart which then killed millions.... Like wtf

[@warzone822]

oh its understandable that he snapped but what surprises me is that he stays snapped, like through killing some of his friends he never thought to dial that shit back

[@panthor109thabest7]

Not Dopler he did wonder woman pushed him. Her origin explains why. comicstorian or comic explained did a video on it.

[@devinsears1886]

which origin? new 52 or rebirth?

[@aldrincruz5682]

Exactly. To create a villian, all it takes is one bad day

[@misaelramirez5236]

I'm sitting here at home waiting for What if Alexander the Great didn't die so young?

[@hoseadavit3422]

He would conquer India and get the achievement "Who needs Vasco Da Gama"

[@jalcobo]

+Hosea Davit well done.

[@drewtrevaskus4392]

Exactly what he was doing when he was alive, during those final years in Persia: simply drinking whilst his empire stagnated, sulking over not being able to enter India, and upsetting his most trusted friends and allies for no reason.

[@kingkusnacht]

3:40 "Martian Manhunter is better than me".

[@ferdijohanniskamagi]

kingkusnacht lol lol lol lol

[@Rotalight]

True doe

[@Sinstarclair]

0:00 - 0:03 "Superman is the Spirit of Classic Americana" Tell that to Soviet Superman "The Red Son"

[@Tortoise-protecter]

Now that I think about it Batman kind of rules Gotham by fear

[@scottmantooth8785]

not the same way...criminals choose to be who they are and what they do... by merely questioning Superman and his rationale in the world of Injustice you have no chance of being treated fairly

[@willvodder7405]

Batman doesn't play a role in politics.

[@zeckwiz]

Batman is as much at fault as the villains in gotham. His rule of not killing actually ends with him having as much blood on his hands as the villains he fights against. He let's them live to kill again and in doing so, perpetuates the cycle of crime. The writers wrote superman into full on psycho mode because that was the only way the batman's side would be justified as the more morally right side to take.

[@driveasandwich6734]

@@zeckwiz I wouldn't really want an alien with a traumatic past deciding who dies and who doesn't.

[@faster_xx]

That's the problem with you bat fans, you guys understand everything about the story but the problem is personal instead thoughtful and discussiony. And of course the diehard bat delusions fans

[@josiahmoreno2758]

the green lantern corps lost because they didn't take him seriously. they only sent a few dousen green lanters and a gaurden. if they had sent the entire corps, superman was sure to lose. Remember the green lantern corps beat brainiac, imprisoned super-boy prime, cyborg superman, and parallax. also won the sinestro corps war.

[@emploeon7]

They eventually did send the entire corps though, remember? They even took OA with them too. Superman still managed to kill them all, threw the planet right into the sun.

[@josiahmoreno2758]

empoleon7, they didn't send the entire corps, because there would have bin billions of green lantern surrounding earth. second, that planet was not the green lantern home world Oa. that was a living sentient planet WHO was a green lantern named Mogo.

[@mulattens]

Well that would not have been fun now would it?

[@xxSpike1989xx]

the green lanterns lost because of plot Armour we all knew, the writers all knew!! nobody had a chance because of injustice 1

[@josiahmoreno2758]

yep

[@wallywest2312]

6:29 holy sh!t, that reference made me laugh so hard!

[@Matthew-Anthony]

Is he referencing the Justice League Unlimited episode, "The Great Brain Robbery" where Flash and Lex Luther switch minds?

[@wallywest2312]

@@Matthew-Anthony Yes :)

[@Matthew-Anthony]

@@wallywest2312 I did not know that Cody was so down to Earth that he watched Justice League Unlimited. The live action movies are one thing because they are for adults.

[@oohforf6375]

I think this is what D&D wanted to get at with Daenerys torching KL in the most recent season but they really didn't pull it off very well

[@logicplague]

The Metropolis nuke was less of a disaster than GoT season 8.

[@somethinglikethat2176]

Between his books and help he was giving them, it's pretty clear GRRM was carrying that writer's room.

[@josiahmoreno2758]

also the fear toxin was mixed kryptonite

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

Wait, Scarecrow isn't dead. He's alive in Injustice 2.

[@keithkatzz]

xXSilentAgent47Xx hmm mm you're right but I don't have an explanation for that answer

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

+Shinzou Wo Sasageyo! Unless he knocked him out or throught that he killed him.

[@Necroxion]

alternate dimensions. - every comic explanation ever

[@travissmith7227]

Maybe he faked his death cause he appears in injustice 1 in a arena transaction and in injustice 2

[@riskitbiskit5673]

that scarecrow is from the alternate reality that is being sent to this reality to help batman to defeat evil superman.

[@alexoelkers2292]

Lol "Martian man hunter is better than me" So true. I would of taken Martian Man-Hunter over Cyborg any day.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

Alex Oelkers I like Cyborgs character in almost every DC comic series except the Teen Titans Go and the Injustice Cyborg, but you're right though that Martian Manhunter is a more like able character than Cyborg in the first Injustice video game and the Injustice comic book series.

[@theequalizer694]

@Iron Giant to be fair he sided with Superman because he also lost everything when metropolis got nuked. So he was just as mentally weak as Superman was during that time. I’d even bet if his friends and family were in another city he’d definitely go along with Batman.

[@mythman3247]

ah nice rule : OBEY no nukes : OBEY No Fighting : OBEY No freedom of speech OBEY A coffie please no OBEY

[@FactHubREAL]

1:10 *Triggering Intensifies*

[@tylermech66]

I'm so shook

[@samtraxy3250]

meh, I've seen a lot worse, an edgy joke about womens studies has nothing on a video of a boy being eaten by piranhas.

[@keenan9084]

FactHub *S H O O K*

[@docslastname2711]

I bet superman could have saved Iris.

[@benlarsen4602]

Khadar Knowledge Flash's wife?

[@Eric_Pham]

Khadar Knowledge press f to pay respect

[@cm01]

f

[@spresm]

Eric Pham f

[@sierramoncada7071]

f

[@Zeithri]

Constantine says: _That was my plan all along!_ :D

[@giuseppedaddio9176]

He's learned from Joseph Joestar

[@j.t8529]

*Superman turns evil* Batman: Alfred where's my kryptonite suit

[@ntfoperative9432]

"WHAT?" "I SAID, WHERE IS MY KRYPTONITE SUIT?!"

[@LadyDoomsinger]

The Injustice story line is my all time favorite, in large part due to the proper handling and development of Harley Quinn's character. But also because it's Batman v. Superman done right.

[@josiahmoreno2758]

it was confirmed that Martin man hunter serviced and was in Atlantis and was disguised as an atlantean librarian. Remember Martin man hunter weakness is fire and intense heat, but it's just a physiological trauma that he suffered when his family was killed by the white Martin's.

[@Jaunsh]

I swear to god..... It's Martian not Martin, how can you get that wrong 3 times

[@ultimategamer876]

Oh man, I know a few white Martins, they're the real villains.

[@blackmercury2796]

Josiah Moreno No, he's dead. That Arcade Ending has nothing to do with his story inclusion. As Martian Manhunter was about to kill Wonder Woman, Superman blasted her with so much force of his heat vision that Manhunter disintegrated. Before he was attacked by Wonder Woman, Manhunter was trying to save Superman from his mental health and showing him a sense of compassion and understanding through Pathos.

[@betalianzofhillsidienz3714]

What if Superman was evil ? Batman : That's why I'm here

[@heyitzay5958]

So basically brightburn but with politics.

[@makingawaymakingaway759]

Basically

[@Strxgglz]

And batman

[@danielpedraza6455]

Not really

[@MarverlUniverse]

@@subscriberswithnovideos-xw9xc dude they basically the same except here there is actually a story and somewhat makes sense, brightburn...yea that was a mess of a film

[@skeletoncrew6500]

Not really

[@kevinreso1806]

0:09 Me too... does that mean I am overwhelmingly good?

[@kevinreso9300]

kewl

[@Samm815]

Do you pay your taxes?

[@samwiththejam9308]

Ebanker Amonia ...

[@astrocitizen]

Not to gripe, but an Alternate History about "What if Superman was real?" (a la the earlier Godzilla episode) would have been a welcome prelude to this... and would have been rather interesting all on its own.

[@bryanmcclure2220]

John Pelt a video on what if super heroes were real in general would also be nice.

[@ultimategamer876]

He kind of already did that with the X-Men.

[@astrocitizen]

Well, that covers "if superheroes were real"... to an extent... but Superman's a different ball of wax. It's like saying "What if the Headless Horseman was real?" would be the same as "What if Count Dracula was real?"

[@bryanmcclure2220]

No, he did a what if mutants (not the x men) were real. That a lot different then what if superheroes were real.

[@nekrataali]

Watchmen by Alan Moore explores this already, IMO. Dr. Manhattan is a "real" Superman (at least with how he's treated by Moore). Moore does a really good job at exploring what effect a Superman would have on international politics, along with the psychological detachment a lone superbeing experiences when tasked with protecting the world.

[@taliawtf6944]

I like how Joker in this literally said he wanted to put it on easy mode, so he fucked with Superman breaking him in a day after trying to do the same to Batman for years. xD

[@tomasashgreninja2611]

*The Emolj Movie Is getting A Sequel* Me: OH DEAR GOD NOOO

[@spartan__015]

Was the Emoji Movie THAT bad? If so, why?

[@tomasashgreninja2611]

I think it was cringe or something

[@prachisaini1]

@@spartan__015 It was outright horrendous.

[@ralphydelgado1267]

1:09 A future with a mustache AWESOME

[@oceanwinds255]

A future without CGI, if you know what I mean xD

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

1:30 That was the best joke, in the unlikeliest of places.

[@3DSDF]

So we’re gonna ignore that only one live-action Batman has never killed in his film? And that Batman was Clooney’s.

[@hossainabeer]

"You need an ace in the hole. Mine's sup" - Joker

[@yodayoda4764]

You've got the general gist of it but i feel that you really glossed over Batman's part in Superman's fall from grace. Batman doesn't lose his morals but that's cause he's a Moral Crusader. He's so obsessed with enforcing his code that he never tries to help or compromised with Superman at all. Instead he kept alienating himself to Superman, kept pushing the latter further into radicalization and turned himself into the enemy. He took Justice League members hostage, let the Flash be tortured by Harley, got members of his own Insurgency killed from incompetence and said members kept trying to kill members of the Justice League long before the League loses its way (Captain Atom and Manhunter). All this culminated in five years of slow agonizing defeat as the Earth is taken over by the now completely corrupted Superman, all because Batman couldn't be bothered to act like a Human being and help his best friend through the grief.

[@4ever3052pac]

yoda yoda To be fair, he did say he was gonna gloss over a few things and simplify the event. It would have been nice, but it seems like he wanted to focus primarily on the Superman side this time.

[@liuwang9899]

yoda yoda How? By killing people? Yeah, ever heard of the Justice Lords? Batman was right in the end, maybe not in the beginning, but after Superman kills Billy/Shazam (a kid mind you, who just didn't like what Supes did), and people who don't agree with him, Superman needed to go down. #Batmanwasright

[@yodayoda4764]

Superman's definitely crossed over the last moral line in year 3 (torture of a civilian) and 4 (lording over the Justice League members) and descended into absolute tyranny and corruption in year 5 and the game, ordering an assassination, the murder of Billy and his general attitude proves that. I am not arguing that Superman fell, but Batman helped push him down that path. There was a chance that the Batman could have served as the restraining influence for the League and prevented them from falling but he didn't. He turned himself into the enemy and didn't even bother to try talking with Superman. Members of his insurgency kept for the kill on Superman and Wonder Woman long before either of them crossed went crazy.

[@ruyman90]

Batman never really tried to talk with superman. He pretty much remind him every time that he did bad and he should feel bad for killing the joker. I don't really count the superboy incident because it was a one shot that the writers did to explain why the teen titans weren't involved (because they forgot about them). The time he crossed the line was when he killed Oliver in rage. Maritan Manhunter was a spy and tried to suffocate wonder woman and was killed by superman. In fact, while superman was questioning himself to what point he should take away rights such as right to use weapons (while talking with flash during a chess game) batman never questioned himself or answered any other opinion such as huntress asking him if it would have been better to not have superman kill the entire darksied's army and let millions of people including black canary and Green Arrow (present in the room) to die. He didn't answer anything. He didn't tell Damian why letting dangerous criminals live was the better option, he just said that "that's not how we do things".

[@liuwang9899]

ruyman90​ He didn't have to say anything, it wouldn't matter, they were too far gone, and what happened in the end? Superman became a dictator, he didn't even think like the Punisher, who only killed criminals, Superman killed innocent people, he had to be stopped.

[@DoubleBoost23]

4:51 Here's a quick debunking of that-- The Batman Who Laughs.

[@Veladus]

So, you didn't actually read Metal? Because they state very clearly, crystal clearly, that the dark multiverse is just fears made real. Things don't even have to make sense to happen there, they just have to be edgier than an 8th grade atheist. Meanwhile, there's Earth-51, where Batman stopped being a pussy after Jason Todd's murder and put the Joker in the ground. Earth-51 ends up a "paradise" because he gets rid of all the villains.

[@JP-xn3gf]

Both of y’all are way too fucking nerdy

[@serknight7769]

So was flash sick and unable to show up or what?

[@ehhhwhatever202]

Ser Knight Yeah!

[@ashutoshprakash3017]

flash was sided with superman

[@ehhhwhatever202]

Ashu Prak In the video genus

[@blackmercury2796]

Ser Knight Flash along with Shazam, were the ones that followed Superman as well but always questioned what he was doing was right or even necessary. Both stayed to keep Superman in check in a way, as they're like the heart and soul of the Regime. When Shazam questioned Superman on literally Doomsday -ing Gotham and Metropolis, Superman killed him using his Heat Vision to burst through his skull. It was this final moment of Clark killing Billy that Flash had enough and rebelled against the Regime assisting the Insurgency.

[@ceruleansiren2258]

Lol, Nah. He sided with Superman. Then saw the errors of his ways and joined Batman.

[@willflynn7384]

People should read the comic series irredeemable if they want to see an all powerful hero lose his mind & become a villain. At least the first 4 issues.

[@damnedlegionaire]

Thanks! I'll give it a read.

[@thomasgroves3611]

Have you ever thought of discussing the Red Son storyline???? Especially, with the animated adaptation coming out next year!!!!

[@Kaiser-Nuva]

6:30 Lex washes his hands because he’s good but Wally as Lex in justice league unlimited doesn’t because he’s evil

[@lmaoded1550]

Lol

[@DarthVader22659]

Please make a video of "What If the Byzantine Empire Never Fell." It will be at least as interesting as if the Roman Empire never fell. The Byzantine Empire made a huge impact on today's culture as is, but I wonder how that was changed. Would they expand? Would only a few decades be bought for them against the Ottomans? Would they fall to another power? I'd love to know.

[@victorgz2907]

For one, I think the Americas would be discovered later, I might be mistaken, but I remember the fall of Constantinople being what triggered the exploration age, because the Ottomans blocked everything between Europe and Asia.

[@mountandblade77]

...you...do realize the "Byzantine" Empire was just the Roman Empire right? literally no-one back then ever called them anything else its a name we invented that literally insults them. that would just be a different version of the "what if the roman empire never fell" scenario.

[@50mt]

Or maybe: What if the Roman Empire fell, but the Eastern Roman Empire survived

[@tntproductions6950]

Darth Vader hello

[@anon9579]

What if Rome never even existed?

[@PennTankerGuy]

"No, *God almighty,* no. It'd be too damn easy. All I've ever wanted to do is kill him. Subject him to every single inhumane torture he's inflicted upon the thousands of lives he's taken and then... end him. But if I do that, if I let myself go down that hole... I'll never come back." -Batman.

[@Raziel312]

I see this as, what if Superman was a human being? This is to say, what if the power of Superman was placed in the hands of someone who does things like: lose his temper, doesn't always know what is the right thing to do, have mental/emotional issues in response to trauma, be stubborn, ect. The only reason standard-issue Superman works is that he is GOOD. Not "good" in the normal human sense that he has a genuine desire to live a moral life and overall contributes more than he takes. Superman is All-Caps, GOOD! His self-control does not waiver, he never loses his temper, is totally selfless, and never lets one cynical thought shake his faith in humanity. Were this not the case, you'd get Injustice.

[@friedfrog5447]

Superman is already guilty of everything you just listed. And the only reason he's good is because he was raised by two humans.

[@macree01]

Superman has had plenty of these types of moments in past story lines, the thing is there is a fine line between losing your temper or not knowing what the right thing to do is and ENSLAVING THE HUMAN RACE. I know it maybe hard to accept but not ALL humans are basket cases. There are some genuinely good people out there who even though they are a human that makes mistakes still can learn from it and not let it overcome them. A person who can have a cynical thought but not let it overwhelm their sense of doing right by their fellow man. I dont know what you consider "good" in the normal human sense, but I can say that ANY human can be a Superman if they do good unto others. Thats about as traditionally good in the human sense as you can get.

[@kaitlyngriffin460]

I see INJUSTICE and I freak out.

[@BlackAngel-fd6sn]

I love this kind of 'MacBeth' style character development. The ultimate tyrant

[@rimfire8217]

Oh I didn’t think of that. That is a great comparison.

[@stuartcocks9410]

This was very helpful - now understand some of what the hell happened before Injustice 2

[@benjaminraskin8509]

"Don't kill em, if you kill em they won't learn nuthin!"- Jim Carrey

[@bredmon]

Wait I'm not caught up with all the superhero stuff but where is the flash?

[@battlerwinner]

He first decided to side with Superman but afterwards rebelled and joined Batman instead (I think the turning point was Superman killing Billy (Shazam))

[@girlgarde]

Yeah, Superman killing Shazam caused the Flash to switch sides.

[@williampalkow5108]

Holy shit! Superman kills Captain Marvel?

[@blackmercury2796]

William Palkow Yeah, it's fucked up. Shazam was just stating an opinion on how crazy things were resolving into and Supes got irritated. When he mentions his wife, Supes snaps and then kills him. Out of all the Regime members, only Flash, Lantern (Iffy), and Shazam were the only ones still left of their former shells.

[@robertsims7828]

Injustice superman is just damaged

[@roaringthunder115]

I love this arc and story... Thanks for telling.

[@parkerbair7303]

This story is absolutely fucking wild. Apocalypse attacks earth like it was just another Tuesday

[@maximusdecimusmeridious3784]

The justice lords arc was great too in teasing the idea of this lore

[@TheLeah2344]

DC’s Injustice Comics and video games is my favorite arc.

[@lycanbladefang4768]

Superman was created to be an idea, of righteousness and he even quoted that his S is the symbol of hope. The reason for him being unstoppable and extremely overwhelming is that he is an idea, an idea can not be destroyed as long as the hope for good remains. Which is why Injustice Superman, who is no longer that, is significantly much weaker than any other Superman variation

[@smilegabe]

You've done above and beyond retelling this. Superman driven to insanity you accompany with your amazing narration and unsettling music keeps me holding my breathe for the entire video.

[@PathsUnwritten]

11:45 "It's usually when I get home and remember that I didn't get any." LOL. Poor guy.

[@RBsRealm]

The justice lords. Ever heard of it?

[@Stockfish1511]

justice lords is just oncept of crime syndicate used in animated series only. So basically you are talking about crime syndicate.

[@TheSpidersider]

Yes, this game's story is basically the same as that episode, except Batman didn't side with Supes in Injustice.

[@girlgarde]

Yeah, it was an alternate timeline of the Justice League cartoon in the 2000's. In it, Lex Luthor is elected President of the U.S and causes the death of the Flash. As a result, a bunch of stuff happens, Luthor tries to start a nuclear war but the Justice League/Lords stop him. Luthor taunts Superman about how he'll get out from prison and cause more harm to the world so Superman kills him. Fast forward 3 years later, the Justice Lords have taken over the world and while democracy has been subdued, so has crime, poverty and a bunch of other bad things. Justice Lord Batman meanwhile discovers an "alternate" Earth with a dimensional portal machine of some kind which is the Earth where the Justice League cartoon takes place in. The Justice Lords decide to help "fix" the Justice League Earth but know that their alternate counterparts will oppose their efforts so they opt to set a trap to restrain them while they go about "fixing" the Justice League Earth. For further info, check out the Justice Lords 2 parter in the cartoon.

[@hentehoo27]

*What if Finland had won the Winter War?* Come on, Cody... You can do it!

[@Ghidorah_Stan64]

Hente Hoo they pretty much did, the Russians lost more men than Finland lost kilometers.

[@anton2192]

Murican Empire Finland won the war. Russia won the Treaty

[@X-SPONGED]

6:44 "He has his own Spy, martian manhunter in the *Red* base the entire time" *[TF2 reenaction]* Robin : "Blu Spy is in the base" Superman : "BLU SPY IS IN THE BASE ??!"

[@goldengold8568]

The quote "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" is true for superman.

[@Jonathan_M_Eriksson]

I was gonna go to sleep, but then i checked my youtube feed

[@TheOne-rz7qg]

"The bells....have already been rung"

[@nont18411]

We live in a society, where honor is a distant memory.

[@louisduarte8763]

Not surprised Damien Wayne would choose lethal force: he's not just Bruce's son, but the son of Talia al-Ghul, daughter of Ra's al-Ghul, founder of the League of Assassins.