What if the Cuba Missile Crisis Went Hot?

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Music:
Cold Piano 2- Martin Mellstrom
Dark Mind- Gunnar Johnsen
Dark Journey- Anders Ekengren
Dark Moments 2 - Martin Klem
Waiting Game - Gunnar Johnsen
Ski Vacation 2- Martin Gauffin

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

So this is a different tone from my other videos. But I felt it fit the subject matter.

[@haw1197]

Could you do a video about what would happen if N. Korea fired their nuclear missiles

[@user-kt8yp5ho2y]

AlternateHistoryHub Can you make a video what if Russian Empire won the Russo-Japanese war?

[@nemanjacabarkapalordozunu]

Can you do video what if DBZ charachters was real how world wold look alike?

[@royalmaniac5774]

AlternateHistoryHub Cody, do a video o the kaisserreich mod in hearts of iron 4 Edit: or do the sunset invasion dlc in crusader kings 2 Or What if Richard Nixon won the 1960 presidential election

[@user-kt8yp5ho2y]

AlternateHistoryHub What if Rhodesia won the Rhodesian bush war?

[@AFGalwayz]

we'd come home from a long day of surviving and killing monstrous mutants and watch alternatehistoryhub in our underground bunkers "what if the cuban missile crisis went cold"

[@Fyzzy4life]

AFGalwayz don't forget the cold nuka cola!

[@merc6961]

AFGalwayz And don't forget the bandits screaming about meat bycicles

[@everythingelseisirrelevant7573]

Skylake Give me Synth armor

[@AugustAutumn]

Never fear, citizens! The Enclave is here!

[@ranelgallardo7031]

We probably wouldn’t be born

[@tsovloj6510]

My father was twelve. He came home one day and his mother told him, "Jerry, it looks like we're going to have a war." That one line still chills me to the bone.

[@jackchoukaier8764]

why do I imagine her telling him this in the same tone of "oh it looks like it's gonna rain"

[@danlewis1329]

Other possible scenario: Vasili Arkhipov decides to launch the nuclear torpedo.

[@bensteinberg2154]

Dan Lewis I was hoping this would be the scenario. That was a way likelier way for the Cuban Missile Crisis to lead to nuclear war. All it took was that final person to agree to launch the torpedo

[@yousuck785why]

@jo gr there was another

[@yousuck785why]

@jo gr not only is he a hero of his country, he is a hero of humanity.

[@Shinyarc]

jo gr Thankfully, Missile defense systems are improving. If we can perfect these than we can actually take down countries like North Korea without fear of nuclear retribution

[@bane2201]

@jo gr I always find that so impressive. Twice in history, the prevention of World War III was the result of one person. Both times they made the right decision. Not only that, but they did it against opinions to the contrary within a collectivist society - Arkhipov didn't succumb to peer pressure, and Petrov didn't launch the nukes despite 5 nukes supposedly heading towards them. They also both knew it could hurt their careers. Their courage is honestly an inspiration to me even now, 58 years after the missile crisis and 37 years after Petrov didn't push the button.

[@onyxi.x5777]

"And his personal conflict... ended the world..." "ThIs EpIsOdE wAs SpOnSoReD bY..."

[@Perririri]

nOrMiE

[@spicyleaves8876]

People have to make money??

[@elmochomo8218]

@@spicyleaves8876 we know its just funny how he said right after that

[@spicyleaves8876]

@@elmochomo8218 The timing is impeccable.

[@Melody_Raventress]

It is a bit of a tonal shift.

[@JustinY.]

Short Answer: We all die

[@cousinchaos896]

Justin Young nice

[@bidgitbinner7430]

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU EVERYWHERE YOU GOT IN FUCKING YIAY

[@lankygiraffe4487]

*Now you're here too?*

[@shweatypalms4423]

Friendly Neighborhood Neocon I hope your joking

[@snipsnap8527]

Yay

[@kaiserwilhelmii5113]

One like and I won't respect Belgium's neutrality.

[@williamsledge3151]

Kaiser Wilhelm II liked this. Whilhelm: ok say no more

[@KevinLikesBananas]

Kaiser Wilhelm II liked this. Wilhelm II: dalé Edit: i just realized there was the same comment in comment threax

[@Civ-rg7zw]

Show them who daddy is!

[@MarvelousSeven]

@MrJanizPetke you are what you eat, you asshole.

[@Oink-FM]

@MrJanizPetke congo kinda contradicts it.

[@fanofstuff3327]

4:13 so Seattle is the only city left in America what a dark timeline

[@georgesracingcar7701]

I guess that does mean grunge music is popular forever so maybe that’s a plus I want more genres though

[@FormulaVase-kp3dc]

They wanted to make sure Grunge still happened.

[@bry10101]

Nothing but soyboys and overpriced coffee.

[@DerNachtmar]

And no Hardbass :(

[@Sebastianimania729]

Alaska and Hawaii exist too....

[@XxXkillernooXxX]

The fact this was a possible alternate timeline is terrifying. The amount of times the world almost ended In the last century is crazy

[@guitarherops31]

The fact that we have many more chances in the 21st century is terrifying. Every year seems that we are closer to large-scale conflicts, on top of climate and social problems.

[@JmKrokY]

And the worst is yet to come Probably

[@theokchannel2081]

I love the tone of this video

[@WoWfAnLoL50]

terrifying video... normal sponsor at the end

[@LargeFather69]

He should do more full-themed vids

[@louiscallahan3720]

It's so good. I was riveted, holy bugger. I want Cody to do more videos like this.

[@jetex1911]

The first nuke definitely caught me off guard.

[@theokchannel2081]

Exactly as soon as the video started I knew I had to play it in widescreen

[@anthonyrahali3919]

That intro was the bomb

[@ryanhopf8324]

Pun intended?

[@Steph.6926]

*Aaaaayyyyyy*

[@eric777100763]

Lol

[@nothingofinterest8048]

noice

[@eric777100763]

@@nothingofinterest8048 what are you complaining about had you gone to White Castle it would have been worse😀😀😀😀😀

[@chrisridenhour]

8:08. That edit was so chilling. Reminded me of that scene in Casino when Joe Pesci's voiceover was interrupted.

[@jrosa__]

Billy? What happened to Jimmy?! JIMMY?! #LookingforJimmy

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

Billy is Jimmy's grandpa. This is canon

[@thaddeuskyle572]

AlternateHistoryHub canon: Billy is the grandfather of Jimmy who traveled forward in time somehow and was able to play World of Tanks.

[@georgegriego2292]

#LookingforJimmy

[@randomguy7309]

#LookingforJimmy

[@RandomGuy-pe9kd]

Didn't The Party make Jimmy an Unperson?

[@kolbreez7629]

“Thousands of Americans are vaporized instantly”-that sounds so eery

[@Katarinarabbit]

Kolbreez the horror of weapons

[@HaydenLau.]

Congratulations on that American education system. Eerie.

[@kadafi4lyf]

@sami6291 either you are insanely moronic or making a sick joke

[@shariumjassic837]

@@kadafi4lyf It's both.

[@anemu3819]

Not thousand Millions

[@americanoperator3147]

I wonder how the Generals would’ve felt when they saw Nukes dropping everywhere, and them wondering “Is this my fault?”

[@eric777100763]

Their generals they wouldn't really give a shit most of them are Glory Seekers.

[@williamrobinson5859]

No windows in their bunker lol

[@twistedyogert]

@@williamrobinson5859 *"What in God's name is that thumping sound?"*

[@georgesracingcar7701]

I don’t know why they’d spend the last months of their lives playing the blame game

[@robertraymond762]

@@eric777100763 They're still people.

[@thegamerator10]

"By holding a gun to everyone's head and calling it peace." -Captain America

[@proactiveomnipresentvessel6569]

ellaborate

[@ft_warshy8882]

Agreed

[@mt8956]

I don’t get it

[@crimsonstrykr]

You mistaken peace with quite. - Ultron

[@Tanknuggets217]

@@proactiveomnipresentvessel6569 That quote is from Captain America: The winter soldier

[@AbudBakri]

If I remember correctly, it was Charles Xavier and the X-men that saved us from this crisis, especially after Magneto tried to shoot the missiles back.

[@gennik7966]

Who is Magento

[@KGODSMACKC]

Dr.StickFigure whats an x men?

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

What the Fuck is a sonic??

[@keyboardcorrector2340]

Judging from the United States' 'common core curriculum' I believe most of our youth would actually believe that this is so.

[@Oz-suka17]

And then Big Boss saved us after America was framed of have launched a davey crockett in USSR territory.

[@AndrewF35]

The US is confident that the Cubans are going to surrender as defense was small and... BOOM Excelent. Couldn’t have done it better

[@raffihakim278]

Depends on Castro. In Extra History, its mentioned that Castro had planned a Kamikaze plan (Sacrifices Himself to Force people kicking the bucket). Which means that this scenario would be likely.

[@anthuan2028]

As a Cuban i liked this

[@chetpomeroy1399]

@heck yeah--I remember hearing that Castro wanted to make a pre-emptive strike of nuclear missiles on the U.S. mainland to forestall what he perceived to be an imminent invasion of U.S. forces. At that time, the Soviets had already deployed Luna battlefield nuclear missiles on Cuban soil, cocked and ready--The White House was unaware of this development. Had war broke out, nobody would be here making comments on KZbin videos.

[@anthuan2028]

sami6291 Russia has nearly the same amount, plus North Korea, plus there are some hidden in Cuba son the US will be reduced to ashes

[@williamsullivan3702]

That BOOM.. though 🤣🤣🤣🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣

[@theunclave6558]

8:08 Goodnight Girl, I'll see you tomorrow *falls

[@johnecoapollo7]

The one time I've actually felt fear while watching Alt History Hub. Excellent video

[@HistoryNerd808]

I'm just going to say simply that thank God JFK was a levelheaded guy and cooled off the tensions

[@HistoryNerd808]

Friendly Neighborhood Neocon I hate communism as much as the next guy but ridding Cuba of communism is useless if everything good is wiped off the planet too.

[@themadhammer3305]

Friendly Neighborhood Neocon to rid Cuba of communism Kennedy would have brought about the end of the world as we know it, I'd hardly call that the perfect opportunity

[@the_Kutonarch]

Michael Hill When you say "levelheaded" you mean after the bullet went through it right?

[@Legion617]

get rid of communism in Cuba. Good job! Now what about communism across the rest of the world... yeah even if the nukes didn't fly which would be highly unlikely considering tensions were already high, the US still would have the other countries that are communist lovers. Thank god for JFK

[@cg123ize]

Michael Hill and Nikita Khrushchev

[@galactic_bear]

Damn, that transition just made me feel weird

[@RevanNaut]

I know right? That's like if I said a family member died only to then announce a new shop opening up around the corner. Kills the tension, mood and annoys/angers some people...

[@wokinmale4184]

SuperDarthVader1 perfect analogy...now I don’t know whether to laugh or frown lol

[@galactic_bear]

SuperDarthVader1 i actually meant around 8:09 you can feel how everything was going fine and dandy, but then his sentence is just cut and all you hear is the nuke drop

[@RevanNaut]

Oh, I thought you talking about the ending. Apologies...

[@galactic_bear]

SuperDarthVader1 no need, cus i also completely agree with you, only wish he could have done a better transition at the end

[@SouplosionOfficial]

The tone made this video what it is. The music, the timing, the lack of jokes, everything was perfect. Please consider doing more stuff like this in the future.

[@dbilly121]

Unfortunately, to quote Ultron in Age of Ultron with your remarks about this current time "I think you're confusing peace for quiet."

[@jamesayewale5695]

No, he's not. We're extremely peaceful right now.

[@KingAgniKai]

We as in America or we as in the whole planet. The entire planet has never been at peace all at one time.

[@lifedeath413]

@@jamesayewale5695 and I'm David Beckham. There is conflict, just not between the main players.

[@KingAgniKai]

@@lifedeath413 yep. The middle east, Africa, parts of south America parts of asia as well.

[@erikeriks]

No we're not in peace. We're just prolonging the inevitable doom.

[@Mr_Bunk]

08:00 Wow. That caught me off-guard. I even fell right for the ‘only one active nuke’ lie from earlier. Such fantastic editing, well done.

[@charmxcommentsectionhub6925]

You should have made this on Halloween. This is erie as hell.

[@ShahjahanMasood]

Charmx Comment Section Hub(News, Facts, Polls, Shoutouts, Etc.) Yeah man. I feel uneasy amd its and night time

[@dylanm.6601]

His video on "What if the Cold War Got Hot?" actually gave me chills. Way eerier than this one.

[@RevanNaut]

I agree, Cody should've made this a little sooner...

[@31ll087]

That explosion sound effect gives me chills.

[@horizonstudios746]

Cody: What if the Cuban missle crisis went hot Me: Everyone goes *Oof*

[@salokin3087]

This would make an excellent RTS game! Someone kickstart that shit!

[@jonathansibrian695]

Salokin there is an rts its called world in conflict

[@salokin3087]

That's great, but that's 1980s, i'd love a sequel though!

[@bconroy328]

Salokin that's a great idea. So it starts with the survivors in a underground bunker but their water purifier chip broke and you have to find a new one for you and the survivors

[@RAYGUNNOOB1]

Salokin Wargame:Red dragon is good of you want a good cold war RTS game

[@markusmandl2098]

It's called Tropico - ah compadre!

[@thebahooplamaster]

Good thing President Kennedy had some competence.

[@agentscott96]

He didn't just have competence and confidence he and kruschev knew that pressing that button would be their legacies

[@agentscott96]

There was also a submarine that was the actual game changer and actually prevented nuclear war as well

[@sean7930]

thebahooplamaster Kennedy was the only good president

[@markant9534]

+thebahooplamaster He nearly ended the world!

[@markant9534]

Kennedy treated Marilyn Monroe like a hoe.

[@michaelsnyder3871]

Some inaccuracies. First, the Soviet IRBMs were basically upgraded V-2s fired from open pads. They were very vulnerable to air and missile attack. Second, the Soviet Union did not really achieve the ability to destroy the US with nuclear weapons before 1968. In 1962, the Soviets had a handful of ICBMs launched from pads and a couple hundred bombers able to make a one-way trip to the US. The only other weapon that could threaten the US was a nuclear armed torpedo that could attack ports. In 1962, the US and Canadians not only maintained the most sophisticated early warning and air defense command system ever deployed, it was supported by hundreds of all-weather, radar and missile equipped interceptors and thousands of surface to air missiles across the US. Soviet ICBMs and IRBMs had accuracy problems, which required large, single RV warheads. Few, if any bombers would get through. The ICBMs would destroy perhaps twenty US cities. This is not insignificant and would be quite damaging. But on the other end, over a thousand SAC heavy (B-52) and medium (B-47 and B-58), supported by a hundred or so British medium bombers and a couple hundred USN and RN nuclear armed light carrier based bombers would hit the USSR. The USSR had over a thousand fighters, but most were day, point defense aircraft. They had thousands of SA-2 and SA-1 SAMs but they had to cover a much larger area than the US and Soviet tech was barely better than German WW2 sir defenses. This doesn't include the hundreds of US and NATO IRBMs and tactical missiles and a couple thousand US and NATO nuclear equipped fighter-bombers. Europe would be hit hard with the Soviet IRBMs and light and medium bombers, perhaps as hard as Germany in WW2 but with mostly nuclear weapons, though the Soviets still hadn't miniaturized their warheads or improved manufacturing processes so at this point they had far fewer bombs. But the USSR and China would cease to exist as organized societies. What would be left for the US and NATO to occupy? Mostly people and places far from the industrial, military and population heartlands. The number of weapons used would create a limited and temporary shadow and radioactive clouds and rain, but not to the extent feared by this video, which is really based on the MAD situation that arose in 1968 when both asides achieved nuclear destructive equivalence. 1962 was probably the last point in history where someone might actually fight and "win" a nuclear war.

[@henrikgiese6316]

The scary part? For the people alive in this alternate 2021 it's quite possible their future would look quite better than ours do today... :-(

[@spidermonkeynuts3851]

@@henrikgiese6316 did you really just say that like would be better if the whole world was nuked

[@henrikgiese6316]

@@spidermonkeynuts3851 If the whole world was nuked, no. But the USSR didn't in fact have all that many nukes in '62, as Michael point out above. So while it would have been horrible disaster _in_1962_ and for people living in or near Russia, for the ones farther away things would quite possible get better than it did IRL. As is it's quite likely Russia, the USA, or possibly China will push the button within 50 years pretty much ending humanity. If that button had been pushed in '62 I'd say that would be extremely unlikely to happen again - a couple of 100 million dead would be a pretty strong reminder.

[@jackschulte6185]

Yeah I agree. I also think it's unlikely the conflict would have escalated to a global scale. Recall that for much of the cold war, the Soviet military doctrine assumed that nukes were only to be used in specific circumstances. The Soviets (probably correctly) assumed that NATO was bluffing, and that "an attack against one" would not be "an attack against all." No state in Europe had any incentive to engage in a nuclear exchange with the USSR due to an attack against a fellow member. It would have been suicide. Similarly, the USSR, as stated by Michael Snyder, would have been extremely disadvantaged in an exchange with the US (even if just the US acted alone). Thinking at the time (especially for the Soviets) was that there were only two ways the nukes were to be used: (1) by a nuclear state against non-nuclear state(s) that could not retaliate in kind, or (2) by one nuclear state to defend against a full-scale attack by another state (nuclear or conventional). If the Soviets were to respond to the invasion of Cuba, it is likely that response would have been limited to an invasion of West Berlin with purely conventional forces. At worst, the Soviets may have tried to seize the whole of West Germany (or the conflict may have spilled over into the West due to more bad decisions from the Kennedys if that's the scenario we're running with). In this case, the Soviets may use a few nukes to bottleneck US troops and delay US reinforcements in Germany, but it isn't likely they would actually drop the nukes on US positions and bases, as that would be too risky and could invoke full-scale US retaliation. The Soviets assumed that Poland would possibly fall to a similar nuclear fate by US / NATO bombing, as the open Polish plains were the best land route into Western Europe from the East, and the Soviets decided in the early 1950s that such a contingency was not worth reacting with a full nuclear exchange. NATO at this point, I suspect, would have fallen apart for the reasons outlined above. None of the NATO partners would have backed further escalation and confirmed the utter destruction of the European continent with an all-out nuclear exchange. "A nuke for a nuke" is not a feasible policy. NATO states would have likely began negotiations to resolve the crisis (unilaterally or as a whole), even if the Kennedys were pushing for total war against the Warsaw Pact. Even in our timeline, President Diefenbaker of Canada was quite impatient with Kennedy when the Cuban Missile Crisis had emerged, as he felt that he was not kept sufficiently informed by the Americans and that the Kennedys were prodding the world towards war without appropriately consulting other world leaders. Meanwhile, in the Western Hemisphere, I find it hard to believe that the 100 tactical nukes deployed there would have actually been useful to the Cubans, who didn't really have a delivery method for them in 1962. Cuban troops hadn't even been trained how to use them as of their withdrawal in late 1962. As a nuclear state fighting for its survival, Casto's regime **could** have been willing to use these devices under the circumstances, but it's really not likely that they had the ability. Additionally, the Cubans would have been probably acting alone, as the USSR would have likely opposed the Cubans making last-ditch nuclear attacks which would jeopardizing global stability and condemn the 60,000 Soviet soldiers stationed there to their deaths. Perhaps Cuban nukes could have been used to delay US advances by blocking the mountainous passes of Cuba and creating fallout. Or perhaps they would have been used as suicide devices, left behind with a small number of Cuban troops for US troops overrun, then detonated to inflict casualties on US personnel. However, the idea that they would rain down on advancing US forces is unlikely, and detonation of the weapons on Cuban soil is at best a double edged sword. The single IRBM that was ready posed a significant threat if not eliminated by US air attacks, and may very well have been launched at any city on the Eastern seaboard including DC. If time had been provided for a buildup of US military personnel in advance of the invasion, perhaps there could have even been a handful of IRBMs in operation. But even then, I find it unlikely that the US would have chose to escalate with a full-scale nuclear exchange with the Soviets, as the US would have sustained additional losses (several orders of magnitude greater) in an all-out exchange. It is most likely the US would have detonated its own devices only on Cuba in such an event. Furthermore, from the Cuban perspective, none of its potential nuclear options would do anything to guarantee the survival of the Cuban regime; if anything they would hasten it, and the Americans would use their arsenal to level what remained of the island. To ensure their survival, the Cubans would have been far better served to attempt to work out a deal with the US (and the USSR) rather than use its nuclear weapons. And, again, even if an exchange occurred in Cuba, the Soviets we not going to be eager to bomb the USA in Castro's defense, because the Soviets themselves would also fear US retaliation (it wasn't worth the price of a US nuclear attack on the USSR, and it wouldn't change Cuba's fate). In short, a peaceful deal, whether initiated by Kennedy or any of the other parties involved, was the most logical outcome. Everyone had little to gain from a nuclear exchange of any magnitude, with nearly everything to lose. This would only become more apparent the more nuclear weapons were used. Conflict, if initiated, would have been short, limited in scope and scale, with nuclear exchange only likely in Cuba, Germany, perhaps Poland, and (at the very worst) a few Eastern US cities. While it is frequently heralded as the time the world almost ended, I have always had trouble believing that this was a reasonable possibility. It was a serious situation, but not nearly as grave as it is often portrayed. It gets a lot of attention largely because Kennedy was basically martyred 13 months later, but JFK's role in the whole thing I believe is very frequently exaggerated, and certainly not the only thing that prevented complete nuclear annihilation.

[@bensmall6548]

Cody did say USA would technically win the war. Implying that the country wasn’t annihilated.

[@soundclock2939]

R.I.P. to the best intro on this channel. The music was so fitting

[@andre-yv9sy]

Do you know what the song was called?

[@jamesrocket5616]

​@@andre-yv9sySantiago de Cuba

[@johnnyscifi]

"The nukes would fly. Millions would die" Poetic dude...

[@jgreg3596]

I think the world would be a lot colder than normal

[@boxman9033]

Dam the Russian Winter ;-;

[@cesthefox]

Movie Man yeah colder but we will be dead because a nuclear winter is the most devastating thing that could happen because that means the snow have radiation, the plants die, we won't get any sunlight and basically we will die for starvation or for radiation

[@joechill9747]

Patroling mojave desert make you wish for nuclear winter

[@mushypork1272]

Chernobyl is pretty green though, some people even still live there, so maybe it wouldn't be as bad

[@cesthefox]

Mushy Pork well because a lot of years have passed since what happened in Chernobyl and it wasn't total war, if it was a total war would be much more worse that what happened in Chernobyl because there's not a lot of radiation now there but if it is a total war and everybody is affected, radiation, cold, contamination and weather will be worse and there would be no green just death.

[@AlexM-WI]

I like the book " resurrection day" by Brendan Dubois. Takes place in an alternate timeline where the Cuban crisis went hot. I can recommend it. Read it for yourself

[@carlpeng2580]

Thank God Professor X managed to prevent Erik from doing his thing.

[@rdaevi6129]

Billy? I thought we were Jimmy

[@randomguy7309]

#LookingforJimmy

[@jimmysmith3211]

Cody, I feel so betrayed :'(

[@mushypork1272]

it was kinda whorish to dump jimmy

[@sukhmeetsingh5828]

This was really well produced

[@sprice2112]

As defense is small and *BOOOM*.

[@soppa24]

The Feeling when the Nuclear alarm siren test just went on whíle watching this :D

[@douglasmcneil8413]

Argentina might have been OK. Maybe South Africa and Australia to. But anything in the northern hemisphere, just say goodbye.

[@tanostrelok2323]

Nuclear winter and social revolts because of both the death of crops and livestock and the economic collapse that a half of the world going poof would mean.

[@tanostrelok2323]

BMAN488877, sure, we produce food, but we'll have to make up for the death of crops thanks to the nuclear winter, rationing might help to overcome the situation, which doesn't mean the first years won't be tough on that subject. And let's not forget the economic impact on this, economic sistems on the region will need to be reworked as dollar is now worthless, and all the money businessmen and corrupt politicians had in countries like Switzerland is now gone. The industry will need to be rebuilt in order to start producing what can't be imported anymore, and I can tell you, people will revolt, they've revolted for less. However, if governments manage to keep things stable (Which I can see happening, especially in countries like Chile, Argentina or Brazil), in 20 years or so life here won't be any different from today, perhaps even better. On the other hand, since Britain was nuked and the British army no longer exists, Argentina can now claim the Falklands back.

[@demo0831]

@BMAN488877 actually no countries at that time couldnt even reach that far and russia was actually fairly calm about the situation so i dont think there leader would have nuked america and no country would really be left to nuke

[@Teixas666]

they would be okay in the sense of: there are no real major strategic targets so no one in their right mind would nuke them but nuclear fallot is a very real thnig that would lead ot famines

[@TheLAGopher]

@@demo0831 The local Soviet Commander had release authority to deploy tactical nuclear weapons. That fact was unknown to US war planners. Casto put tremendous pressure on the local Soviet Commander to nuke the Americans forces who landed. Who knows if he would have done so knowing his 20,000 man Soviet garrison would be immediately destroyed under an American counter-attack and who knows that had tactical nukes been deployed in Cuba by both sides that each side would have taken a time out to head off a strategic nuclear war.

[@BubbleDouble]

Only 50s kids will remember this

[@Perririri]

Normie

[@BubbleDouble]

@@Perririri Replying to a 2 year old comment and still using the word normie. I smell virgin

[@kingofthedanesAD1013]

That intro tho, is haunting. It gives me the creeps.

[@AnimatedAirlines]

Seriously after the chilling speech at the end, I ran to look outside and make sure everything was normal

[@coysgub5599]

Thank you JFK. For quite literally saving the world.

[@ncrveteranranger9126]

Coysgub its quite a bit sad that a person like trump now rules the us soil...

[@ineedmoreflavour1955]

minutemen soldier The implication of that statement being what exactly ? That Trump is going to start WW3? lol people are fed so much fake news nowadays, it’s hilarious. Let’s look at the facts shall we? The 2 issues that currently trouble the USA in this context are ISIS and North Korea. Neither of these exist because of Trump, and both grew stronger under Obama’s watch. So you ask, what has Trump done about these threats? Has he launched the nukes? Sent the invasion force? Declared War? The answer is No. ISIS pretty much no longer exists, due to a much needed aggressive strategy from the White House. North Korea is another matter all together. Trump has two choices, ignore them, like the useless Obama did, and let them grow stronger, or oppose their activities with the strongest means possible outside of War. Thankfully, Trump Chose the later. Do some independent research before making ridiculous comments. Whenever anybody mentions a past US president, there is always some sad little snivelling cunt, who can’t resist being like “Trump is a bad man......my my my feelings are hurt” 😭 Grow up snow flakes. He isn’t perfect, but Trump is what the west, not just America, needed. A shot in the arm for the SJW’s and leftist crooks.

[@Tomoyo0827]

Thank you, and here is a bullet for your contribution.

[@a_can_of_soda]

Civil - Anarchist ISIS was already beginning to fall BEFORE Trump was elected. Have you ever heard of the Battle of Mosul? The Syrian Army and the Iraqi Army were the ones doing most of the fighting. You're just trying to take credit. If you think Trump defeated ISIS, you're sadly mistaken. In fact, Trump lost the right to claim that he's fighting "radical Islamic terrorism" *the second he gave $110 billion worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia (the world's state sponsor of terrorism).* Also, "Grow up snow flakes"? You throw tantrums and cry "Fake news!" whenever someone criticizes Trump. *You are in no position to call ANYONE "snowflakes".*

[@ineedmoreflavour1955]

Does the truth hurt? You have offered no substance in your answer at all.

[@jacksontaylor290]

You should do what if JFK was never president, and Nixon beat him. I wonder how the Cuban Missile Crisis would’ve played out with Nixon.

[@benallen7704]

Jackson Taylor Easy. This video, but with Republicans. That's not meant to be a modern political slam actually... The mid 20th Century Republicans were fervently anti-communist, (both parties were honestly, but the GOP literally made it basically their entire platform) and Nixon most definitely was not and is not known for being level-headed. For what it's worth, had it alternately been LBJ, we probably get nukes slinging around as well. That man had a constant need to prove he had the biggest dick. LOL

[@TheMasonRacin]

Ben Allen Here's another scenario: Khrushchev doesn't sent missiles to Cuba at all because he was afraid of Nixon.

[@101jir]

@Mason DeLong Possibly, but it is also possible he would try and sneak it. No need to be afraid of someone if that someone doesn't even know your a threat until it's too late. Keep in mind that there were about 100 nukes we hadn't found.

[@MrBrranch]

Literally lol. He's pulled it out before

[@iasimov4195]

The Bay of Pigs Invasion had been planned under Nixon during the Eisenhower administration. If Nixon had been elected, the Bay of Pigs would not have failed and there would have been no missile crisis. Once the Mafia had reopened the casinos and bordellos in Cuba, Nixon would have become rich beyond the dreams of avarice on Mafia tribute. But then who knows if there would have been an Apollo program? Without it, we wouldn't be sitting here debating the issue on inexpensive home computers.

[@thatonelordnerd9693]

What if the Suez Crisis went hot? What if the Meiji Restoration never happened? What if one of the Rainbow Plans(War Plan Red) happened? What if Y2K really happened? What if the aerophile from Hero industrialized the Roman Empire? What if Napoleon won? What if the Tunguska Event had hit a major city(Berlin, for instance)? What if the Second Bill of Rights passed? I can keep going.

[@iasimov4195]

What if Trotsky had not been assassinated? What if Huey Long had not been assassinated?

[@mikethemonsta15]

He already did what if trotsky was in charge instead of stalin

[@lukegardner3741]

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[@Ludwig_Perpenhente]

Y2K happened, though it were just glitches here and there

[@appleslover]

@@iasimov4195 he did the Trotsky one and guess what, there's isn't much difference

[@windwind3170]

4:18 Vigilo Confido, Commander.

[@andresiglesias4746]

Wow, what a great video. The tone fit the video perfectly. Keep up the good work. I love your videos.

[@Louthanjen]

What if Prussia was never disolved by the allies

[@rdaevi6129]

Mic Clank boring

[@MR-wh6ji]

Yes please!!

[@Charlotte-lw3ox]

Mic Clank that'd be cool haha

[@EmbeMamaChannel]

Not much of a difference. Germany loses it's colonies, has to pay reparations, and is humiliated.

[@minhajul2756]

Wasn't Prussia basically de-facto abolished by the Nazis before that?

[@preachyourstory3452]

Thanks for the video. I have to say I have a different view on a possible 'nuclear war in 1962' thing. While Wikipedia isn't the greatest 'source', at least the 'US-Soviet Relations' section of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis has some footnotes. Yes, the Soviets had warheads, but in 1962 the lacked the ability to deliver them to the US. The Soviets had maybe up to 75 ICBMs - the same rockets that launched Sputnik (the R-7). R-7s take many hours to prep for launch. In your scenario, within minutes of the Soviets using tactical nukes against a US force invading Cuba, the US would use submarine-launched Polaris missiles (the US had 9 Polaris subs - each with 16 warheads - in commission by Oct 1962; 2 or 3 would be on patrol) and bombers to target Soviet R-7, tactical missile and bomber bases as well as tactical nukes to target any operational nukes in Cuba. Some Soviet warheads would get through to America: it depends on how quickly after Soviet nukes war used against the invasion force in Cuba Kennedy decides to go full nuclear. If that decision-making time is measured in minutes, rather than hours or days, some millions of Americans - and more Western Europeans - would die, but not 100 million Americans. In 1962, the US arsenal was much, much larger than the USSR's and could be much more effectively delivered. BTW, I'm not arguing the US 'should' have invaded Cuba or gone full nuclear: the late 50s and early 60s was simply an era in which US nuclear delivery capability comprehensively outmatched the USSR's. The Cuban Missile Crisis was a huge risk - by Khrushchev.

[@GeneralCurtisELeMay-wh5gh]

You are so right!! The U.S would have won a war in 1962. I often think about this World and how it would look like today, if the Commies in Russia, China and North Korea would have got their ,,Sunday Punch‘‘ in 1962 LeMay always called the Nuclear War Plan of the Air Force like this. 😅

[@Parthornax]

"BOOM" As the alien who had spent thousands of years studying humanity slowly shakes his head in sadness as he types "Humanity extinct" on his computer.

[@lindengb4362]

Well, that was depressing

[@bunney3272]

1. What if the Kuomintang won the Chinese Civil War? 2. What if NATO accepted the Stalin Note of 1952? 3. What if the Watergate scandal never happened? 4. What if the Sunni-Shia split never occurred? 5. What if the Catholic-Orthodox schism never occurred? 6. What if India was not partitioned? 7. What if Brazil remained a monarchy? 8. What if Ian Smith won the Rhodesian War? 9. What if Italy joined the Central Powers? 10. What if oil was not discovered in the Middle East?

[@boxman9033]

but Italy joind the Central Powers, and then decided "Fu*k this sh*t I'm out!"

[@xavierrodriguez2463]

The Kuomintang would probably never get power in China again, they are so unpopular that they are losing support in the country THEY MADE.

[@chrisgaming9567]

1/2/3. No idea. 4. The Islamic world would be more internally united, perhaps even preventing the Israeli conquests of Palestine. 5. Not sure. 6. There would be a very strong separatist movement from the Muslims in Bangladesh and Pakistan, and it's doubtful they wouldn't have eventually won. If the nation somehow remained united, it could potentially become a major industrial and economic power similar to China. 7/8. Dunno. 9. WWI would've been a much more balanced fight, but I still think the allies would've won. 10. On one hand, many of the wars in the region wouldn't have happened. On the other hand, it would be a much poorer and economically weak part of the world, similar to Africa.

[@kaiserchan4683]

Really want to see number 7

[@pineapple9405]

Donnie Melton You are a moron.

[@leosypher9993]

I really like the atmosphere of this video, the classic music fadeing at the beginning and the music later on that really puts a sense of urgency to it

[@diamonddemon7612]

"Oops my finger slipped", John F. Kennedy, alternate november 1962

[@itssunday1990]

This generation's last words if the bombs fell: "Its gonna be lit in 30 seconds bruh!"

[@AL73250]

Erick Dominguez and then they just didn't say anything for 30 seconds? Sounds unrealistic. Or did the miscalculate how long it would take for the bomb to drop?

[@justinbiggs1005]

Agreed. Nuclear war sounds lit af. Lmao

[@flbphotography2239]

🤣🤣🤣

[@probablydylan3622]

Wait, I thought you said the Stanislav Petrov 1983 Soviet nuclear false alarm incident was the closest we have ever gotten to eradicating humanity

[@RAKITHA9]

Probably Dylan this was probably the next biggest

[@aliciabell6688]

We have been very blessed. Multiple miracles have allowed our country to continue.

[@KitchenSinkSoup]

Alicia Bell World more like.

[@AdamDooley]

By that time the missiles advanced to the point where no part of the globe couldn't be reached. In the early 60's bombers were still a vital part of a nuclear deterrent plan.

[@rodrigojalcacanarte3011]

For luck, nobody have the madness enougth for finish the humanity...for now

[@darkzircon8165]

That intro it's so perfect, reminds the Fallout intros. I love it.

[@dogwoodfan777]

Just wanna give a "hats off". I share this video with people all the time, and recommend your channel based on it because it's, in my opinion, the most fantastic one you've ever made.

[@noonewillreadthis2519]

Well this is creepy

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

You should do. A video on the world of the metro books!

[@privatecheeks3457]

Pajamapants Jack That would be amazing!!!

[@randomdudeontheinternet2827]

Pajamapants Jack I love both the books and the games, Glukovsky is such a great story teller

[@LouisOnAir]

I'd enjoy that.

[@AlexanderUnit-731]

metro is BS, subway would be flooded since it is the deepest subway system in the world

[@randomdudeontheinternet2827]

Alexander Abdulov The Moscow Metro was actually built to be a bomb shelter, so no. Any other subway system, maybe.

[@goldenwarh]

US : place missles in Turkey USSR : place missles in Cuba US : suprise pikachu face

[@nickcalderon2637]

The choice of music in this video makes this scenario more eerie and serious. This in turn makes the video more interesting knowing that this could’ve easily been our reality.

[@obscurity6558]

Cons: Possible Destruction of the world Pros: Maybe no more Florida?

[@kameronjones7139]

Obscurity worth it

[@user-nv3ms4mt9j]

Obscurity hey I like Florida HOW DARE YOU

[@xAureliusx]

I wish I could angry react this

[@StudioUAC]

pros: real life fallout

[@christianweibrecht6555]

Kameron Jones only worthwhile if Alabama is also nuked

[@tedbacon1283]

Im writing a book about this scenario

[@80ki68]

TedBacon12 Really?

[@angelantayhua3096]

TedBacon12 beat me to it

[@remenencenda768]

You seem to be forgetting the rest of the world, and that MAD was already known about then. Kennedy wouldn’t launch nukes unless the soviets did, and the Soviets wouldn’t unless Kennedy did. Also Seattle, as you mentioned would be fine, along with the rest of the world.

[@Fucktheworld14020]

Kepler Burger Soviet battle field commanders in Cuba where authorized to use tactical nukes if the US invaded trust me it would’ve happened if Kennedy had of listen to his generals and invaded.

[@remenencenda768]

Tee Money They did Not, both sides had strict orders to only fire nukes if the other country did not, as evident because the USSR only bit the nukes there because of american missiles in turkey.

[@remenencenda768]

blukeyify How would that happen? The population of the USA then was less than 100million, and no crop failure could accur, ass nothing would cause it

[@feereel]

@@remenencenda768 in 1962 the population of the usa was over 150 million

[@thermslusitania1151]

Well not really Gwinnett Technical the Soviets would never fire if the United States didn't fire both sides would probably just be even more worried both sides know good and well the consequences of a nuclear war someplace that both sides would just wait until the other person strikes first

[@stellajuuno995]

Idk why, but somehow, that 0:20 cuban music really fits with the clip.

[@grandcato3612]

What would happen if the Christmas truce extended to the point where: soldiers, captains and pilots decided that they had enough war and they wanted to go home I'm talking about a complete defection the captains of the Dreadnought decide to return to their homes the pilots fly their airplanes back to their homes the and the soldiers simply get up and return to their homes on all fronts they all collectively decided to say: f**k war I will go home.

[@TheIllusiveMan11]

Short answer, never would've happened. Anyone who DID try that irl was shot.

[@TriatomicAI]

TheSilentKing The same talking point of "would never happen" is irrelevant to one's imagination. Alt Hist Hub has done far more ludicrous.

[@grandcato3612]

TheSilentKing that is not true remember that I am talking about a complete desertion of the army, the navy and the air force. trying to execute so many soldiers would be impossible

[@TheIllusiveMan11]

Grand cato Again, impossible. The Christmas Truce wasn't a huge organised thing that happened across the whole front. It occured in a handful of isolated sections. Furthermore, by this point too many resources had be committed to simply 'stop' without HUGE uproar. Many wanted to keep fighting. Plus there's the French Army, the German army, Serbia, Russia and Japan you have to account for.

[@TheIllusiveMan11]

Triatomic Ai Watch his video about the Texan Revolution

[@westcrook2718]

Tactical Nuke Incoming

[@ikujura7645]

Bomb has been planted.

[@luckyjohny181]

Strategic Launch Detected

[@tankaddict9147]

IT'S OVER!!!

[@elsociord7553]

NO! ITS MORE LIKE ''ENEMY NUKE INCOMING IS OVER'' MW2 LOL

[@charact_r6929]

WestCrook *Nuclear launch detected*

[@kelvinh8327]

And the price of real estate in the Southern half of Australia goes through the roof! Ah, it's nice to be in the bottom part of the Southern Hemisphere!

[@benpholmes]

This amazing, well-done video deserves to be watched now more than ever.

[@thebanterking9297]

Please do a video on if Britain won the Irish war of independence and Ireland remained part of the United Kingdom

[@mrhoppy_9724]

The Banter King wouldn't matter. The EU would still take over. Ireland as a country is dead.

[@thebanterking9297]

Yeah 100% agree Ireland is a dead country the government is weak and corrupt and Catholicism is still a big part within the Government and the people

[@johnflynn6190]

We would simply have kept struggling until the yoke of British oppression was thrown off as so many other countries have dispensed with flying the 'Butchers Apron' (Union Jack). Ireland would still retain her unique culture as it does today and develop as it has into a successful secular state that is an example for all with the intelligence to see.

[@SithLordGdoom]

Question, as a Brit who is A) Only told the history that makes the UK look good, and B) Not all that up to snuff on my History, how did it earn the name "Butcher's Apron"?

[@thebanterking9297]

John Flynn lmao successful state, good one

[@kiwimapper5743]

I gotta say. I really liked this different tone of a video, it really gives us a more real feel for what could of have happened and it makes it feel like your really there. Great Job!!

[@blatalianboy]

Simple Answer : we wouldn't be here to talk about it

[@Steph.6926]

My grandfather was a civilian in Miami during the crisis he said there was not a minute without planes preparing for invasions.

[@chaywen9240]

Cody, your content can get a HUUUGE sponsorship from Paradox the gaming studio.

[@Ribr98]

They published Hearts of Iron 4 for example, a rts in which you can change how WW2 goes, making Germany democratic for example and fighting against the Russians with the allies.

[@Tom-eq7eh]

Rib iar Firstly its more of a grand strategy series than rts. And secondly that would not be profitable for paradox.

[@marcfortig8941]

??

[@omnicognatee]

i think the idea would be that he would be able to create alternate history settings for their games

[@TheLagGod]

AARs

[@eyokirvideos7400]

Seeing some of the comments on this video about being in the fallout games, I can do no better then to quote a book by Yahtzee. "Unlike you people, I have no illusion as to my usefulness in an actual apocalypse. The best I can hope for is to die in a pose which confuses future archaeologists."

[@agustinrico3304]

This video felt so much darker and intense than most of the other ones

[@masterderpy3548]

That...is SUCH a haunting intro. Beautifully done.

[@alphaxalex1634]

The fallout 5 lore looks good

[@drifterax7731]

AlphaxAlex definitely preordering this one

[@matthewschad6649]

"And his obsession ended the world. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THIS VIDEO WAS SPONSORED BY. ."

[@shonenjumpmagneto]

I tried liking it twice. Great video. Quality for 12 mins.

[@jamieervin4954]

This is probably one of your best episodes

[@gennik7966]

Finally Billy gets his own drawing

[@hat400]

Do a video about what if nukes were never invented and ww3 begins with out nuclear warfare

[@mickeyg7219]

I think he made that video long time ago, we would still use chemical and biological weapon, which is potentially as devastating to human life as nukes.

[@francismartial6427]

Vladimir Putin if nukes weren't made ww2 would still more then likely be on going

[@thendmusic548]

Both of you are incorrect, the war would've lasted approximately two years longer, with the only Axis power still existing being the Japanese imperials. We had a choice, to drop the bombs in an attempt to show Tojo, the Japanese emperor, that we could easily destroy the entire nation if given the choice. Most Americans were tired of fighting in an already intense war, so the bombs were dropped instead of keeping the war alive. If nuclear technology did not exist at this particular time, we would have invaded the main islands of Japan and fight until Tojo was either killed or captured. Neither him, nor his people were willing to give up and were unwilling to accept defeat, an example of this being a small group of about five Japanese soldiers being trapped in the Philippines who would continue to kill people who wandered near their campsite in the wilderness for nearly 20 years, and whenever someone would try to tell them that Japan surrendered, it would be thought to have been a trick by the allies to get the men to surrender. Millions more would end up dead as result, and is an even worse scenario than the droppings of the two bombs.

[@mdaily318]

Thend Music Tojo was not the emperor Hirotiohto was. But maybe you got it wrong.

[@mdaily318]

Thend Music Operation Olympia as it was called by MacArthur

[@krisstarring]

Wow. This is probably the most chilling alt-history videos I have watched.

[@sgtcrash4775]

There are not too many videos out there that'll give me chills LOL you're the only guy that is giving me more than one LOL this video literally just gave me goosebumps

[@coldcallerloopy]

"...ended the world" *Cuts to silence* HEY GUYS, WORLD OF TANKS HAPPY TIMES!

[@nolanvanormer5248]

War... War never changes

[@poserdragon719]

War has changed

[@charadreemur1804]

@@poserdragon719 sure the tactics and machinery of war had changed but the reason for war land resources prestige all of that stayed the same

[@charadreemur1804]

And the loss of life

[@alphaundpinsel2431]

@@charadreemur1804 you know it's a fucking meme at this point to quote fallout whenever nukes are mentioned in something serious?

[@tommyhunter1817]

I know a guy who was in the invasion force. He said when it was called off, they were close enough they could see people on the beaches.

[@bullmoosemedia]

I don't think most people know how close humanity was to blowing itself up. This is where I give JFK some credit for not listening to his generals or even his brother. Imagine if Nixon was president at this time.

[@StaticRealist2050]

I kept thinking about this alternate history scenario and that "forever young" song came to mind.

[@darkmage07070777]

I absolutely LOVE the feel of this one. VERY effective in bringing across the horror of the situation. And the situation was FAR worse then we ever realized at the time: look up the "Intruder in Duluth" incident (October 26 1962, while we were at DEFCON III for the crisis) where, due to a wrongly wired intruder alarm, bombers were actually scrambled to initiate a nuclear bombing run on Russia. It was only discovered JUST AS THE PLANES WERE ON THE RUNWAY ABOUT TO TAKE OFF, and standard procedure was to maintain radio silence while on this mission - only the command center sending a car out to literally chase the lead plane down saved the world.

[@DuckSociety]

Cody, I think you got the title of this video wrong. It should be What if the Cuban Missile Crisis had Gone Sexual.

[@80ki68]

Red Love Cuba is all like, "bro, it's just a prank, dude there's a camera over there!".

[@DuckSociety]

Kievan Rus LoL XD 😂🔫

[@xavierrodriguez2463]

Rehan Zainul Abdeen (ALMOST ARRESTED) (NOT CLICKBAIT)

[@selimacast725]

Red Love Only fools dont wrap their tools

[@HolyKingKong]

Best/most chilling opening to an alt history video ever (after the ad of course).

[@nkwhite]

The artistry in the opening is fucking amazing... Kudos

[@dustinortiz3852]

Love this new tone

[@StevenEveral]

9:43 I find it interesting that you used that photo. That photo is of the remains of National Geographic photographer Reid Blackburn's car. He was unfortunately caught up in the eruption of Mount St. Helens in May 1980. When Mount St. Helens erupted, it did so with the force of a 2 megaton nuclear blast. While they're slightly related, the results are similar.

[@QuantumBraced]

Someone needs to teach him about past perfect tense. "What if the Cuban Missile Crisis HAD gone hot".

[@HolyKingKong]

Honestly, the Cold War is the most interesting, and most sobering, topic on this channel. I get chills whenever nuclear weapons are discussed here