What If TF2 Maps Had NO Invisible Walls?

Invisible wall can be such a pain, can't they? Let's fix that. In this video, I removed every single invisible wall from a handful of maps, allowing me to go wherever I want. What does this end up changing, other than my mental state? Watch to find out!
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Let me know if you want me to do this again, and if so, what maps I should do! This took a few hours to do because Hammer is a pain and leaked for no reason half the time, but I think I've streamlined the process so future videos should be easier to do.

[@TARINunit9]

At first I imagined this being "all invisible walls made visible" and seeing the depressing claustrophobia of familiar maps turned into restrictive box-like arenas

[@thepip3599]

That actually sounds really interesting. I want to see that.

[@xL1PEx]

@@thepip3599 Just set "r_drawclipbrushes 2" in the console and there you have it.

[@theextremeanimator4721]

@@xL1PEx ...oh no.

[@whitespace226]

@@theextremeanimator4721 ...oh yea

[@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828]

that needs to be created

[@ExoTheFlyingFish]

Invisible walls are the worst. For example- that one above Upward's first point that completely blocks you from stickeyjumping way behind the enemy.

[@dgamer5075]

And the invisible wall on upward that blocks most rocket jumps from BLUs furthest spawn point.

[@Henrix1998]

It would be the worst to not have it

[@user-qc1mc2ly8j]

I can only imagine. I play xbox so I can't play upward tho But I can only imagine dealing all that self damage to your health and then trying to land there but end up falling down (idk its layout but I'm guessing to your death)

[@wuzz111]

Laughs in a balanced good map Invisible walls do serve a purpose, though if it was replaced with a visible one I think a lot less people would dislike it.

[@gr3my]

@@wuzz111 tru tru

[@ShockInazuma]

"We're back with the only series where you can take the camera, wherever you want. And we try to find secret in all our favourite games" wait, wrong KZbinr

[@Pop4484]

Boundary Break moment

[@StupidNSimplesns]

Used to watch that guy when I was like 13 all the time

[@elijahfriedline9381]

That’s A reference that breaks my boundaries

[@dutssz]

I love how he rate the new locations by how good an engineer sentry would be there

[@zeno9794]

Seeing these maps kinda fills me with a feeling of sadness. The fact that developers had a lot of visions for the game then ended up abandoning it really hits weird. The TF2 universe in general is just so awesome and it makes me sad thinking what the game could've been if valve actually cared. Animated movies, updates, hell even a TF2 TV show. Man.

[@applesyrupgaming]

spahgetti leftover code from quake

[@AnnaSue81]

expiration date was a pilot for a scrapped adult swim series, rumors flew around. its just depressing how bad valve is.

[@Spacebugg]

@@applesyrupgaming what

[@dailyyy5979]

@@Spacebugg spahgetti leftover code from quake

[@wallywheezer8256]

@@AnnaSue81 It had the potential to be a great show too

[@VIOLENT6]

this takes spy's voiceline "Off to visit your mother" to a whole new level

[@Kylirr]

>picrew icon

[@hazeltree7738]

@@Kylirr And?...

[@Kylirr]

@@hazeltree7738 if you know you know.

[@hazeltree7738]

@@Kylirr And if I don't, I want to know

[@Kylirr]

@@hazeltree7738 guess you better do some research then

[@epunati]

0:00 - Introduction 1:35 - ctf_2fort 15:13 - cp_well 25:04 - cp_granary 30:04 - ctf_sawmill 35:40 - Outro

[@_strayfer_]

2Fort actually looks enjoyable... what in the hell

[@betty-ld6wy]

had the same thought

[@Rebateman]

if this was an april fools video, you would remove the invisible walls by making them visible

[@MrGermandeutsch]

absolute genius

[@utamajuruteraperunding7307]

Imagine if this man remove every invisible wall in wutvile.

[@elfabrip]

My CPU would just inmediatly lit on fire

[@walrusgiraffe3440]

that would be epic

[@mynormalpillshavewornoff1991]

oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no

[@micha5200]

ENGINEER CAMPING

[@cetozofumee]

Wutville would finally be ballanced

[@YZYE]

Maybe I can finally leave the battlefield and make a life selling Milk, as my Scout has an infinite reply that somehow replenishes itself, I might also sell the Balls from his Melee weapons.

[@jamesdevine02]

25:28 "As long as it doesn't cause problems, it should be fine." - Great Blue, 2021

[@linxbit8984]

Considering there's already free 2fort, I think sawmill would he the most interesting.

[@A_Senitent_Ford_F150]

I'm sure there is comments that have pointed this out, but there is a map called "Destructible 2fort" which open the same areas in the intel room but also you can break certain walls to hide or put a sneaky sentry. And the map-maker(s) made non-colidable objects, colidable. Go try it out!

[@Glue_Eater06]

Why How And most inportantly Where, is the download

[@ReiCaixa]

I've seen a video about a destructable 2Fort (and pretty sure they did it to other maps). They made all props solid and fixed a lot of things. Then the players could break windows and stuff and use those areas (like the rooms by the Intel room)

[@madmasseur6422]

The room with the big map is probably the only way a single player can take out the high ground sentries if the player enters it through that hallway window so it definitely has a purpose

[@tright6]

The blocked off parts of 2fort actually look like unfinished areas, so it isn’t hard to imagine that with some tweaking it could look like a complete map.

[@racer927]

"Maps require impassable boundaries, but unless we restrict the environments to either interior spaces or steep canyons, these boundaries can't always block the player's view of the outlying, unreachable area. In our more realistic titles, like HL2, these boundaries often require fictional and visual explanations. In the heavily stylized Team Fortress world, however, conspicuous artificiality is a core design principle and so we can simplify or altogether ignore these explanations without compromising the player experience. Playtesting showed, for instance, that these low fences leading to an empty expanse successfully conveyed the message that the area beyond the fence is uninteresting and out-of-bounds." --- Laura Dubuk

[@jamesdevine02]

25:40 I wouldn't worry about that, since Snipers don't have the required mobility to access areas that high up anyway. Soldiers, demomen and sentry-jumping engineers would be a much greater concern.

[@JanoschNr1]

Omg I *LOVE* this version of it way more, looks way more alive and intristing

[@LedosKell]

I've always wanted to visit the cargo ship at the dockyard you can view from Upward.

[@snipuhh__enthusiast2736]

But the thing is. Do you have the rancho relaxo? Ohoho... My dearest friends... You don't understand... I only have the *currency* to get it. Will I? As soon as I get it in a raw state (ref)

[@ohnoitsspreading6200]

10:40 Little story about this little nook, I have the orange box on my Xbox, and I was play 2fort on it, and I was a demoman I think? I took an engies teleporter, expecting to be put in the sewers or something but when I teleported, I was in this nook. The engie had placed a dispenser in there as well l as the teleporter, I hit him with my bottle, and he turned into a heavy, leaving me in the nook for a while, until I blew myself up. I still have no idea how he got up there to place a teleporter and I haven't found any videos on it, wierd.

[@JellyBlockLP]

This video was really cool. Good work man!

[@brandonsibley8439]

the 2fort one is already been made as maps. and i mean a lot, there is a 24/7 underscored community server called Phoenix and i have done those sentry/dispenser spots. as a red engi, building in blue intel, with 4 other engis. no one could take us down. XD

[@Ravendjdjdjjd]

Great Blue: "you can literally just press w" Me(a pyromain): wm1 phlog pyro flashbacks

[@jlmstudios8453]

I remember looking at all the maps in the custom server thing and seeing a map like this. Theres a map in the base game thats like this but with extra litte things added. So its cool to see the normal map with mo boundaries

[@lovingryza1755]

I feel like this would be a fun map for hide and seek with all the nooks and crannies you could hide in

[@IncompetentEarl]

I can finally relax on my lawn chair in the bong room. Nice

[@XMJ3904]

Hey look, a new Samwiz video!

[@D_037]

Been playing this game for a long time and only now I realized the train track on BLU side of 2fort...

[@williamsmith6921]

The thumbnail made me think this was a leadhead video

[@uggomcspit5954]

2fort idea: put a tele in overly elevated intel room get 2 heavies and 2 medics up there (doesn't matter which medigun) put a dispenser next to one heavy, and get another engie to put a dispenser next to the other you now have two god sentries

[@thecerebellum5697]

I have a theory on that hole in sawmill what if that’s was meant of the koth version for an animation of the point rising before any teams can cap but was cut

[@apchistuz]

The only problem with it that stairs are gonna be jiggly

[@Kacper42PL]

Map remakes with no Invisible walls that make no sense and with stuff to explore is probably my biggest wish besides some update stuff lol

[@Thebestbobbyboy]

One world on VR chat which is just 2fort but made for VR chat and you can go outside and there are funny little Easter eggs

[@guncatto2625]

I can imagine if you polish this up ALOT it would make for one hell of a 18 v 18 map.

[@millythecat7211]

imagine if someone "fixed" the 2fort no invis map a bit (as in made it look a bit better) and started a server using it

[@thefirstsalty3055]

i would love if this was an alternate 2fort map

[@ExtraLargeWindow]

Im glad that i came across ur channel

[@wolverdep4739]

I think removing the invincible walls actually made it a pretty cool (and chaotic) control point map

[@darkAwesome100]

I think 2fort, if you touched it up a little, would be an excellent community map

[@wariowario1889]

Minecraft horizontal limits TF2 edition

[@circuit-2925]

"that is this video on removing maps" words

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Is this gonna be a series?

[@wolfcl0ck]

local man leaks every tf2 map so you don't have to

[@arandomsystemglitch2398]

Some one could play as probably play as demo and be a artillery type thing and be in a hard spot to hit and hit people with grenades

[@cubicskull1916]

if these where actual maps spy would be eatin good

[@maxkoob]

wow. this adds alot of dynamics to 2fort that just didnt exit

[@the_explorer4600]

33:44 I think that hole is for the Exhaust of a rocket? (Correct me if I'm wrong)

[@waffleblitzkrieg1765]

Good mic,good scripts and a competant hammar user? You have my subscription

[@Christopher-D]

You removed the occluded and area portals? That’s gonna really hurt the frame rate.

[@comrademartinofrappuccino]

Where can i download this added maps? Other than the removal of load areas/range i think this has alot op potential for CTF maps

[@h.krb7808]

we participate In a large quantity of tomfoolery

[@limehuzki]

I'd play this Poggers rendition

[@mexoc5006]

there is no reason to remove areaportals and occluders also as hints&skips

[@KnightedSilverWolf]

dude, you cant go back there and place a sentry, it would need to be broken to shoot through walls and see players

[@pubfries5562]

Competitive expanded teufort

[@VeryPeeved]

that long room with the terminals would be a really good place to put a teleporter... for the enemy team.

[@rain28980]

i always wanted to do this

[@WoodlandTrotter]

This was a cool idea

[@etoiledg7024]

destructible 2fort offer the same engie spot lol

[@lev7509]

Team Fortress 2 - Invisible Walls = Assassin's Fortress ][

[@rosecarter5597]

0:36 these are used for optimization, don't remove those!

[@vaomond5326]

am i going insane or does anyone else hear music from super mario sunshine around 2:50?

[@fortnitesexman]

I'd be the happiest man alive Well...second happiest (random crits and random bullet spread would still be in the game)

[@Vooman]

ngl that 2fort edit looks like it would be hella fun if it was touched up to look normal (EDIT: and got some balance fixing), probably more fun than normal 2fort

[@The_WhitePencil]

Sir, have you heard of Free 2Fort?

[@dantheman2038]

"2_fort_engi_power" is like that, was on my favorite server back in the day and we had tons of fun on the roofs of 2fort

[@Vooman]

@@The_WhitePencil i have now played free 2fort, and can confirm i have had a spiritual awakening

[@The_WhitePencil]

@@Vooman very good, you have learned.

[@theartistformidablyknownas3807]

There's a map called 2fort egypt that does the same thing

[@tonyf3431]

12:44 "Aand you can... take people's orders like a McDonald's, I dunno" ok but like now I can actually see a bunch of hoovies sitting there handing out lunchbox items

[@jd_the_cat]

That’s probably what I’d do if we could access that area in game.

[@spagsauce]

and the spies paying with the buy a life taunt

[@tonyf3431]

@@spagsauce y e s

[@vadernation1233]

One steak sandvich coming right up

[@420mralucard]

get a bunch of them and have them all hold a different lunchbox item so people can chose which one they want. Then if someone attacks them they all pull out the brass beast and shred the guy who did it.

[@WeegeeSlayer123]

Finally! Now we can go into that big monitor room in 2Fort that was seen at the beginning of Meet the Spy.

[@MachuThePichu]

That room is actually on doublecross

[@walrusgiraffe3440]

@@MachuThePichu soldier was so dedicated to killing the red spy that he ran all the way to 2fort

[@mustardcookie864]

@@walrusgiraffe3440 if you heard that your teammates were dying left and right because of a red french man you'd also be that determined to killing him

[@zyxkon8235]

@@walrusgiraffe3440 he wasted a whole night running from doublecross to 2fort

[@Its_Just_Livvie]

@@MachuThePichu isn't it in both?

[@MoniNueva]

Tf3, now featuring a new open-world campaign.

[@DynoSkrimisher]

Bruh. I want an Open World TF2 game.

[@nolader28]

@@DynoSkrimisher same

[@SomeRandoQuacko]

Now imagine it with destructible environments as well. heaven

[@boxcarz]

TF RPG with lore from the comics, taking down Gray Mann and assisting your team in taking over the western American desert.

[@LordVader1094]

@@boxcarz Y E S

[@The_Great_Butler]

Between this and breakable 2fort, I REALLY want to see a modified version of 2fort without as many boundries and with the extensions made to blue that red already has. Add and remove some collision and texures and throw a whole server at it.

[@The_WhitePencil]

It already exists

[@elfabrip]

ctf_free2fort

[@MinosPrimeGaming]

I remember playing a map similar to what you described

[@Tekker2234]

There is a map that is similar in concept to this called widefort. It is basically 2fort but opened up on the sides with some other edits to map geometry to make more flank routes possible with the extra space.

[@roboticintelligenceunit1a652]

“Anywhere you can see you can go” Me: M o u n t I n s?! Edit: I mostly meant I could go on the mountains and others can extreme ranch o or grapple hook there because grapple in community servers

[@The_Great_Butler]

It just works.

[@searing878]

It just dows

[@theredspy6688]

it just works

[@minithegameguy4674]

Little lies, stunning shows, people buy, money flows!

[@voltydragon6140]

It just works

[@lm9029]

Alternative title: "TF2 but learning to rocket jump pays off"

[@casulal_m6900]

I kinda wanna see a regular match played on some of these maps

[@ganicc4782]

Fun fact: You can see all this WITH the usual props in SFM since SFM does not limit you as much as TF2 does.

[@cetozofumee]

I'd disagree. Sfm is the limit.

[@blight8bit]

"You may notice the hole to the center of brazil"

[@pepsiatlas5452]

open 2fort would make an AMAZING garys mod map with all the textures touched up. just that massive, flat desert around this little, engineery complex. with garages. and a river. its perfect!

[@elitely6748]

Imagine if Valve made us see the whole story of tf2 but ingame

[@l_Dash]

This is going to be hilarious on a community server

[@thecannedslap]

free 2 fort.

[@engineergaming3412]

Alternative title: great blue discovers open maps

[@suspiciousersandwich]

please if you have time. flesh out these maps. a less choke point less sniper hell two fort would be amazing.

[@grizzle4449]

I will try to make 2fort, without useless clips, a lot of new areas. I actually made dustbowl like that, i have released it to the workshop, but the workshop is shit and it wont anyone download the map KEKW it was top2 on workshop once

[@crashmasterj0837]

In the words of medic- “ooh”

[@JoeL-bd9lz]

me: opens map walks out of spawn gets hit with a barrage of sentry bullets on the roofs respawns game crashes

[@greenlemon9155]

0:40 those are "area portal" and not used at all for clip, but for the portal system and you should never, really never disable it

[@greenlemon9155]

He just need to be understood, all he ask for is just a little care Dont feel scared by he imperfection

[@ScruffyGamerAnimations]

The only thing I'd remove is the occluders, but not the areaportals.

[@greenlemon9155]

i dont wanna sound mean, or be that smartass, but i have no idea what you call "occluder"

[@grizzle4449]

@@greenlemon9155 there is a func called occluder, it hides anything behind it

[@kingfrog6807]

someone needs to show this to soundsmith he'd love the sawmill also could you do sawmill i think its the coolest one and its like the most fixable

[@ScruffyGamerAnimations]

SolarLight would have a field day

[@BenDavisSkydiving]

God I hate the skybox on sawmill.

[@RayanfhoulaBR]

These spots at blu's intel on 2forts look so comfy for me and I don't know why where download

[@ThwompantsGarbageDump]

I mean, hey. There's a coffee room.

[@RayanfhoulaBR]

@@ThwompantsGarbageDump For the the elevated ones are the best

[@proboscismonkeygaming]

Our lord and saviour amazing red has uploaded once again

[@circlexc908]

Damn, we really giving him the large Joseph treatment?

[@proboscismonkeygaming]

@@circlexc908 Wtf do you mean, are you talking about gargantuan jonathan or joesephine of considerable size?

[@circlexc908]

@@proboscismonkeygaming perhaps, but I was thinking more along the lines of Gigantic Johan.

[@NoSymes082]

No one: Blue: THIS WOULD BE A GREAT SPOT FOR A SENTRY!

[@realmackle]

My life as a demoknight would be 100x easier, I can tell you that

[@JosephFlores-yn4yi]

What about the sentry places tho?

[@realmackle]

@@JosephFlores-yn4yi :hollow emoji:

[@evangonzalez7732]

My life as a spy main would be much much easier, more flanks = more fun as tuxedo terrorist :)

[@thennoth2860]

This is really interesting. I'm considering taking 2fort and doing this but spending a much longer time polishing it up since you did multiple maps.

[@thennoth2860]

Progress update: I've been texturing and extending parts of the map to make it feel more like a place, and got rid of some weird stuff, made sure to keep stair clipping. Unfortunately made the mistake of deleting all the skybox textures resulting in FIFTEEN THOUSAND NUMPORTALS* , time to add skybox back manually because it took nearly half an hour to compile

[@demogaming8895]

@@thennoth2860 yikes, I wouldn't mess with that map, it's held together by the holy spirit, the smallest change can break it

[@thennoth2860]

@@demogaming8895 I stopped working on it today but I'll continue tomorrow, yeah, its a total shitshow lol. The compile times too... It's absolutely insane. I can't believe this map still functions.

[@CoolSs]

as much i hate playing on 2fort . i still have so much love to the feel and look and atmosphere of the map . some of the old sfm's and gmod on 2fort give me nostalgic warm feeling toward the map it reminded me of old tf2 before we forgot what art style and theme mean and start adding too much . we did not stop and think . should we add meme hat or bad maps ? no we should not (tf2 need quality control for sure) . 2fort look make me wish we got single player tf2 game . i love the spy base under 2forts and wish we did that (you know . like 60's war conspiracy and the game will be before the gray man attacked mann co )

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Shoulda added Magenta textures to the untexed stuff, would stand out more.

[@ScruffyGamerAnimations]

Or just texture it properly

[@ThatguycalledJoe]

11:13 "I would love to see this in actual gameplay." - Look up AceTheOcarinaMaker's video "2fort but it's DESTRUCTIBLE!", thank me later. Also, no one ever will because it's not worth the effort, but I'd enjoy seeing a 2Fort World map where the map is just 2Fort, but with the invisible walls removed and *everything* modeled. All the spots that are like "Oh, we didn't model this because you're not supposed to see it." are filled in, and let's say that barn way out in the distance? Make that a real-ass barn that you can go to and be inside, and it has full collision and everything. Is that barn useful for gameplay purposes? Heck no. But it's interesting to look at. Also maybe add some extra props so classes other than Soldier, Demoman, and to a lesser extent Engineer and Scout can actually get around.

[@YourFriendJessie]

pro tip: when doing any kind of video with source maps - because youtube and twitch compression "love" darkness, a good command to learn is "mat_fullbright 1" which will allow you to light up all surfaces and objects completely.

[@microsoftseniortechneeshun]

Great vid bro :)

[@hunt3308]

I think upward could be pretty wacky if you remove all the death barriers on the cliffs

[@kyokonull]

"basically i just deleted every clip and player clip brush" ...this is going to be one of those days

[@shadowsheder6519]

5:15 i remember that on Xbox360 you could somehow crouch on the stairs while going up and than you glitched out and you were able to put a tele exit there. After one person did it the whole srver went friendly and we built dispensers on the rooftops. you can do this on both sides and its super fun! you can even build a sentry on the rooftop and they cant kill it for some reason the invisible wall blocks their bullets or projectiles( i dont remember wich one) but the sentry can shoot them without a problem!

[@Apple-vk3fi]

3:52 funning thing is, is that he sentry can detect enemies through the crack from the spiral door from outside so its almost as if we were supposed to go up there at one point