Explaining The TF2 Community Maps Iceberg

[@itchylol742]

What a based youtuber, creating and editing a 2 hour video for a small audience and close to no financial incentive at all. I hope you get lucky and the algorithm boosts this to a million views.

[@lavamaker]

he didnt lmao 💀

[@jrxlr]

anon discovers people have hobbies

[@lavamaker]

What do you mean. I meant he hasn't gotten that algorithm boost

[@ColdestBandito]

@@lavamakerno need to be a killjoy

[@mieksucksatbass]

@lavamaker we get it he’s wishing good luck don’t be a dick

[@BComet]

I have a fond memory on the NeonHeights Trade map. At the time (around 2015...?), the server admin was likely bored, then proposed a little game. He said that, the player that manages kill him, would get a random hat. Then he proceeded to give himself around 100000 hp and did nothing but throw spells at random intervals. While everyone in the server was going heavy and showering him with minigun bullets, I went with the Huntsman for some reason, but I got the kill! Earned an Level 100, appropriately named "The Lucky Shot" Soldier hat, which I started to use right away and since then. A couple years later (one or two I think), I met with the server admin again, he recognized me by my nickname and was happy to see that I kept the hat with me after so long.

[@tophonator]

Really interesting story, its a shame NeonHeights servers arent that popular any more

[@FMJoner]

@@tophonator The NeonHeights servers aren't really populated anymore, but I see at least a few full servers running trade_minecraft_neon if I'm playing when most players are on.

[@Many-names]

What was the hat?

[@kol5040]

Neonheights was a cornerstone of TF2 for me for a whole lot of years. It's sad to see it so empty these days. I joined a couple months ago with my friend just to mess around and people slowly trickled into the server until we had about 12 or so people all reminicisng about the server. Good times.

[@FMJoner]

@@kol5040 yeah, I know the map like the back of my hand. The dirt maze, the portal room, the Doomsday course, occasionally you'll even find a server that's running the version that has the 7 presents on it. I join nearly full servers running it from time to time and I always have a great time.

[@Siger5019]

Excellent narration. No tautology, no unfunny jokes, and it's well-informed. Hard to come up with any quibbles. Only wish it had more maps I don't recognize.

[@tophonator]

Appreciate the feedback my bro 👑

[@zerek44]

This guy gets it

[@loztwalker5068]

I'm surprised at how many of these i know, but i gotta say, as the tiers kept getting higher and i started seeing more and more maps i had never seen previously, the video just kept getting more interesting, great work

[@tophonator]

Im glad you learned something new!! 🤝

[@kenwu369]

This is literally a dream of mine came ture, an insightful and detailed video covering all the maps we as TF2 players been loving for years, thank you for doing God's work here!

[@UEAKCrash]

Very late because I just now saw this video, but a *lot* of the weird maps that are hard to track down their sources originated from TF2Maps annual April Fools day events. I hosted a contest for them for a few years, but they've been a tradition where mappers make the craziest stuff they can to amuse each other, often only being released in a single zip file as a pre-download for everyone, and then we would join our servers and experience them all together. I can also tell you that koth_yup originally replaced all noises with engineer lines, which likely broke since it was released and is why it's just silent now. I bet the console is spamming "file not found" errors for it. I play trainsawlaser and wubwubwub often on my home server wrapping up our weekly map tests :) Thanks for putting this together though. As someone who has played a LOT of these when they were new, and even made a few of them, it is a fun nostalgia trip.

[@ShaggyToad1]

Fun fact about maker of TF2Ware, Mecha The Slag. He went out and founded Gears for Breakfast and made his debut game The Hat in Time. He even used to own bunch of servers called SLAG gaming, that would pick random game modes with every map, dodgeball, fort building, prophunt, bomberman etc.

[@ThePikminCaptain]

So the creator of one of my most beloved games is the owner of tf2ware is what I’m hearing

[@blurobot]

​@@ThePikminCaptaini think so... to believe the same guy who made the most enjoyable map also made an absolute gem of a game

[@vinesauceobscurities]

Unmentioned is the machine_attacks series of maps, basically a narrative-driven MVM campaign that used to be so much fun to play as you truly felt like you were in a journey with a team accross lands. I remembered spending my weekend hours in these maps at its height of popularity somewhere in the early-2010s. I never understood why map makers never explored the concept again. It really had a lot of potential to boost the game's PvE component.

[@kape2978]

Some servers are still alive. I have them bookmarked and play like every now and again when I want to play some custom MvM. Still has some regulars surprisingly. I pretty much have the hud on 24/7 lol.

[@passivelySCREAMING]

I’m astounded that 9.6.12 map is that obscure, yet I remember playing on it once or twice when I was server hopping. The middle tan building with the conveyer belt at the time I played on the server, had people walking over and using it for their strange farming. While looking down the windowless corridor I oddly remembered walking through and peek out the window or a sniper nesting there. I even remember that Zelda temple having the three items on the pedestal, sorry i don’t play Zelda but I know the relics are placed there. It’s crazy, it reminded me when I a like a few months into tf2, before I got into trading, before I met so may of my TF2 friends I’ve added, I literally played this map on a laptop, before I got a computer. It’s obscurity made me reminisce young teenager me just playing the game for fun, it’s quite unsettling but I’ll treat as a fond memory rather a saddening glimpse of my youth.

[@Shyrou00]

Dude I was wondering where were you and now you come with a 2 hour long video? Absolute king

[@tophonator]

Thankyou my man🙏

[@gregoryzagorski8383]

I wish balloon race would become more popular me and my friends have been playing it for years and would like to again.

[@tophonator]

Same, I would love to see really active servers playing it, can get the best out of the gamemode that way.

[@itchylol742]

Balloon race gang rise up. I loved playing demo on the third point when my ship was above the point and spamming stickies from above. Or playing phlog pyro and boarding the enemy ship at the start.

[@gregoryzagorski8383]

@@itchylol742 I remember doing that as demo as well, also I knew someone who could rocket jump from spawn to third point using the cliffs it was nuts.

[@РоманВорфоломеев-е7ы]

@@tophonator Redsun have it running quite often,so there is that

[@muttonchops953]

delfys fun server hosts this map frequently. it's an rtd class warfare server though so I'd understand if you'd want a clean experience

[@TheNightmareAngelYT]

So many great maps that were left to rot. The ones suitable for the public eye and that can be found should be brought back for everyone to enjoy! Thanks for all of this, you madlad. Hope the video gets a ton of views in the future!

[@barnoslat5632]

You have a cute voice

[@jacksihweil8372]

Shut up

[@LokeStack]

Shooter gotta shoot

[@Tann3rr]

Why is this the top comment

[@GRNDson1]

????

[@trivonol3583]

Is this rizz

[@Jai_0112]

very well thought out and executed video, glad to have experienced it early.

[@tophonator]

🤝🤝🤝

[@What_A_Shane]

Someone needs to make a server for all of these maps to run on so everyone can experience this history. I would love to try some of these

[@JoaoFeix]

I swore there would be at least one MLP map, oh man those memories. Anyway, really enjoyed the video, felt a lot nostalgic for those times. Keep up the good work!

[@ckorp666]

the club one with the mirrors, the dj booth, a million horse .pngs standing around, and the little secret that takes u to the skybox? iconic

[@gibletgibby1567]

amen - the giblet @@ckorp666

[@Mox_Cool_Amazing]

Hey guys, Tophonator used to be a really close friend of mine but has unfortunately passed away due to unforeseen consequences. Please pay your respects.

[@David_276]

Are you for real?

[@Mox_Cool_Amazing]

@@David_276 Yes

[@titanx9455]

Did someone take his twitter account? Cause they’re still posting. And steam account is online

[@Mox_Cool_Amazing]

@@titanx9455 I have access to it.

[@Mox_Cool_Amazing]

⁠@@titanx9455looks like my comment from before didn’t go through. But I am the one hosting his stuff now. We’re close friends and he trusted me with them. I’m still deeply heartbroken about the loss.

[@robotratsrb2152]

I remember this old server that isn't around anymore for some reason (sadly) that I've barely been able to find any information about. It always had a map called cp_balloonrace, and the premise was that at the beginning of the match, two airships would slowly fill up with players and take off after a short intermission. The only way to win was to get your team's airship to the end. Every few minutes the airship would stop at a checkpoint where whichever team got the capture on that stop was able to leave, and then the other team had to get it once the other left. Eventually the race would end with one team getting to the finish line. It was the highlight of early 2010 TF2 for me, and brought me some amazing memories. It was one of very few community servers I regularly played on and I'll always fondly remember the loud music that always played at the start of each game. RIP to the GOAT of all community servers );

[@tophonator]

This is in the video my friend !!

[@robotratsrb2152]

@@tophonator Lol I commented it at the start of the video before I started watching😂

[@Juan-jl6ud]

This has become one of my fav videos about TF2 of all time. The work and dedication that went into this is incredible, I really love the music choice throughout the whole video and being it about a deep dive into obscure community maps? love it! Absolute king may the algorithm bless this channel cuz man, you deserve it

[@tophonator]

Big ups to you man thankyou :)

[@CaptainZaimon]

idle_4chan feels like the most soulless attempt at recreating the unique charm of Xenon's 2000s style I've ever seen.

[@casperryborg4869]

You do realize how ignorant this comment is, right? He literally said in the video that it originally was made by Xenon, and that only three pieces of textures had to be replaced. So you're basically saying that Xenon sucks at making maps compared to Xenon. You sir, are a genius!

[@Eraldo_5]

@@casperryborg4869 meow

[@sealsealin9959]

I am genuinely surprised by the quality of this video. The amount of work in it must have been great. Really takes me back to the old times when there was a general spark in the community's heart for niche maps. Very well done!

[@KeithGDR]

I'm the guy that made the DYNF ports for the original Jailbreak maps. Back in 2013-ish I was hosting a community called Dynamic Fortress and I made ports of most of the popular maps to fix some of their optimization issues, bugs and to open up the playable space a bit since my community at the time was complaining. I asked for permission from the original mapper Theodore and he said It's okay since I was porting the maps to use the TF2Jail plugin I made at the time.

[@flin6613]

How are all of your videos such bangers? Keep it up man!

[@tophonator]

Appreciate it!! :)

[@Suggo]

Criminally underrated video, thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing. Thanks for making it!

[@LeafMaltieze]

I started playing in 2009, and I have personally played on about 90% of the maps you've shown. It was nostalgic to see into the past like this.

[@puzzlepuddles6712]

neonheights' trade map was my favorite when i used to play it a lot back then. i was a big fan of the layout plus the night time aesthetic. it always felt so exhilarating when you found someone in the skybox or someone who found certain secrets where you'd ask "how'd you do that?" i remember that one big portal area that had 4 portals, one to the skybox the other to the aether dj area but i don't exactly remember the others.

[@Snarfal]

tf2

[@tophonator]

real

[@loztwalker5068]

@@tophonator impossible

[@gregoryzagorski8383]

I've played Xenon's Cyberpunk map in non source games.

[@bananawhisperer6929]

This video is perfect and deserves far more attention. 2 whole hours of interesting content and absolutely amazing editing. Even the music is fantastic and makes the vibes impeccable. Its absolutely criminal the amounts of views this has. Keep up the fantastic work man this is incredible :)

[@tophonator]

Thankyou so much my friend ❤

[@Zybit1423]

I have to say, why is plr_highertower not in tier 1? Everyone knows highertower, it is one the most common maps on the community listings it appears in many many videos and I’d argue is more well known and popular than mge.

[@Iinventedthecreeper]

oh my god, a 2 HOUR iceberg video for tf2? looks like i know what im doing with my free time next.

[@bigshmuck3562]

Great video. Random comment, but I doubt there was a group called 4chan Party Van that Xenon was part of. It was a common running joke on 4chan back in the day, with the Party Van being a swat team or the FBI. Thanks a ton for covering some of these maps, it's really awesome to see people talking about and hopefully archiving a lot of source-era material, especially as we get closer to source 2 being the norm.

[@gee3888]

Was psyched to see balloon race on the list! A lot of fun revisiting old favourites and learning about some new ones too. Awesome vid.

[@robotratsrb2152]

Balloon race is the GOAT of community maps

[@gee3888]

@@robotratsrb2152 fr

[@esqueletomedonho]

Could you release the download for the map 9_6_12_?

[@rabbishekelstein6003]

FYI most of these maps are hosted and played regularly. The servers with 0 players often have weekly or biweekly gaming sessions with max players, even if they're dead the rest if the time. Look at websites tracking player counts if you want to know their schedule I don't want to flood out a specific community with new people, but TF2 hovel is one such community

[@zelgarath]

I remember I was one of the first few admins for Neonheight's servers. Seeing that title pop up again was a BLAST from the past! Neon's a good guy and it was awesome seeing the server really just come to life and being along for the entirety of the development of his maps. I still remember throwing a few ideas his way for what next to put into Trade_Minecraft and he would usually end up adding something even more creative than I'd have thought to the server (I remember when he added the breakaway floor to the obstacle course under the spawnroom blowing my mind.) but unfortunately I'd never get the spycrab room I asked for! There was one point that Neon was on a spree to get every single duel minigame he could on the server and because of that he's still ranked in the top 20 for most duel wins. Many a great memory was had on his servers and I even still have the "Permission for Obesity" Wedding ring he and I bought as a joke! It's amazing looking back now and seeing just how much those maps really stood the test of time and really shook up what other community devs were doing at the time and I'm happy to have been at least a small part of it! 😀

[@jamaikaivasutas]

nike you did not just edit a 2 hour video. i refuse to believe it. great vid tho.

[@tophonator]

Appreciate you sas

[@QuintessentialWalrus]

I was obsessed with TF2 in 2010, and I was a regular on the official Halolz server back then -- man, remember Halolz? A lot of these maps were in the rotation on that server and it was good to see them again today :D This video is a gem, thanks for making it.

[@ckorp666]

cant remember the last time i read "halolz", hit me like a brick. simpler times :,)

[@gasparmxm]

The KZbin algorithm bring me here

[@hurt6145]

The fligu gigu thing is a 4chan meme on the /gif/ board

[@hurt6145]

The joke is that it's spammed in you laugh you lose threads

[@tophonator]

Definitely would explain it

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

@@tophonator the 4chan party van wasnt a group, it was a 4chan meme thst referred to fbi vans

[@FatheredPuma81]

Yea 9_6_12 is probably some trade server's custom map. I remember joining either a friends or some random guys (Can't remember) server long ago in like 2015 and it had a very large somewhat interesting looking map made of a truly ugly stone texture. His server had a whopping 1 player and that was him. So my guess is this probably had a similar fate. Once the server died the map died. Makes you wonder how many actually good maps have been lost to time.

[@liptonwitch]

2:00:45 I knew the creator of this map. He was a guy named Negr0 Alexandvich Ramius (Yes, that was his username; although, Idk who he goes by nowadays), and he was the admin along with a dude named McFool who owned a strain of servers called Negr0server. It was around from like 2008 (I believe) to 2017, although its playerbase died out around 2015. I used to play on this server way back in 2014. I got introduced to this server by this classic video, ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKjVg4efrc-bq7M ). In 2016, me and a couple of used-to-be friends actually had an index given to us by the creator of the map. He had multiple different versions, and one of them that we played on was 9_6_12. It's so utterly bizarre, because I have nostalgic memories of playing on this map with my friends after school. As for the index itself, it's been lost within time. It's been 5 (going on 6) years that I've played on that server (they've pulled the plug on it around 2017, I believe). So glad to see it featured on this list. As for other entries I would've liked to see, probably the one Laser Cat map or vsh_2fortdesk. Dr_trollrun was a fun map too. I prefer the older Deathruns map over the new ones. I haven't played TF2 in awhile outside of a few times that my buddy's gotten me into doing some casual matches. Great video! :)

[@punkitt]

9612 is so interesting! Is it available anywhere? I'd love to check it out.

[@tophonator]

Here is the link! mega.nz/file/eORj3b6K#RDLKYf9Apfg2dMpzLupFrkgmskyGT_IqW1g4Lv9I6Bc

[@punkitt]

@@tophonator thank you!!

[@StealthArcher]

So, best guess on 2:03:42 is that it's a game of connect 4, fits with 9_6_12 being a mini game filled trade map prototype

[@scoutgaming737]

This is one of the best tf2 chanels. Extremely informative essays, that make time pass by like a supercar. I don't understand why this guy only has 5k subscribers

[@SeleverEnjoyer]

hey 9_6_12 can be 2009, june, 12 or september 6, 2012 or june 6 2012.

[@chumbucket6931]

This was a great video! Lot of nostalgia here from someone who has played TF2 since launch. Some other cool obscure maps I can think of that might be worth a follow-up video: pl_redship - Really unique payload map themed around the BLU team doing some kind of 'boarding action' onto a RED spaceship. Really interesting hyrbid gamemode - half the time BLU is moving the payload deeper into the ship, but there are also parts where BLU has to blow up components of the ship to progress. The map itself is one giant spaceship that BLU attacks from their own, starting on the hull then going deeper inside. Very tight close quarters map with some neat side paths and flank routes and a cool aesthetic. cp_blackmesa - Really, really old 5cp map set in a TF2-ized Black Mesa facility. I don't remember a lot about it, but it had a pretty interesting layout. I remember it being pretty stalemate-y as well. ctf_mandrillmaze - Joke map based on an old graphics card test (?). Basically one long windy path from one spawn to the other, where all the wall textures are the same picture of a Mandrill. pl_strider - Payload map where BLU is the combine, and the payload is a Strider they have to escort and protect from RED team. pl_cranetop - Super fun, super well made 3-stage payload map that nails the TF2 spytech aesthetic. Played it exactly once in a full server, have never heard a peep about it since. pl_downward - Upward, but it's upside down. Total mindfuck. You need the grappling hook to get around.

[@the-t-doggames1553]

Quite a few of these are in rotation on The Lazy Pub on Silly Sundays, where the usual more comp leaning rotation is replaced with goofy stuff like this

[@chaolinpescain]

Having played since 2010 and mostly in community servers, this video brought back a lot of memories I had forgotten having played most of the maps, thank you for that. Amazing video keep up the production

[@Elrealsodapop200]

Back in the day when i was just a kid playing tf2 on an old laptop I had over 30gb of pure maps, I lost them all when my laptoo died but this video reminded me of a lot of great maps that i played countless hours in. We really need a new update to reinvigorate the game

[@Valued_Member_of_the_Community]

Watched up until the anime, disliked, commented, now im gonna close the video.

[@IAmSkystrike]

This is a great stroll down memory lane. Thanks for sticking with this project! Keep up the good work, wishing your channel luck and prosperity

[@mrmedic7799]

Im surprised Ze FFVII Mako Reactor didnt make it. It might just be because I really enjoy playing Zombie Escape but id say it is the best Ze Experience where you can have tons of fun as Humans and Zombies alike. Still good Video tho

[@randomcommenter10_]

I know some obscure tf2 community maps that I'd like to bring up, and they are dr_adventure, trade_plaza_sg_v5 and achievement_draconic. I remember playing on those maps way back in the day and I tried searching for them now but haven't found any public download links. Another thing is I found a post on r/tf2 with a much bigger community maps iceberg so you should take a look at that if you're gonna make a sequel to this because the video was very interesting.

[@EBroxas72]

I am surprised nowhere on here was DM_ponyville??? I played the crap out of that map when I was young back in the day. that aside. fantastic video!

[@Bubblily]

i watched this entire video not realizing this was a small creator, you deserve WAY more attention

[@Whomobile]

Oh look it's me! Some fun facts about 2fooooooooooooooooort: - It was made after turrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbine (which I also made) became popular and everyone wanted a 2fort version - It's pretty much at the limit of how long a map can be - I made it when I was still at univeristy between semesters, it took about 2 weeks of trial and error to make a map that ran fine without crashes (source does NOT like big open areas) - I got a bit of a reputation in some TF2 mapping circles for a few years for being "that guy" who started the silly map edit trend which resulted in the workshop being flooded with low effort meme maps which drowned out actual maps with effort :u havn't finished watching yet but good map choices so far!

[@tophonator]

YO!!! Whats up man!! I love your content :D thankyou so much for commenting

[@Whomobile]

@@tophonator All good, a very well researched video with excellent map choices! It's always good to see Xenon credited, I believe they deserved more attention for what they contributed to the community. I'm surprised achievement_idle didn't make the list but to be fair there's almost nothing available to find about that map (I've tried!)

[@JaceWind]

Really love the production you put into this. From one small creator to another, congrats on the success!

[@wxcvbndu51]

I'm currently 25 years old and have been playing TF2 for almost 12 years now (since march 12th 2011 according to my mercenary medal) so some of these maps are quite literally childhood memories for me, especially mario kart and balloon race. It's a shame the latter is almost impossible to find with players nowadays, I remember going to a friend before purchasing the game myself and playing with him on the map (yes, actually taking turns playing the game at my friend's house who invited me to play, I know that's crazy). Thanks for the video, you definitely poured tons of effort into it and it shows! Edit : oh yeah and the viking ship one too, I remember wanting the cool alien hat that some dude had and that's how I got into trading

[@tophonator]

Thankyou so much my friend ! Im happy to have reached you this way :D

[@theelusivepootisberd7471]

Honestly really surprised there's no slender fortress maps on here considering how popular that game mode is. Zombie escape too.

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

4chan party van wasnt a group, it was a 4chan meme the party van refers to fbi vans that pull up to someones house before taking them

[@ilovewallacebuthategromit]

the server I used to frequent in 2011-12 (ponyville if anyone else played there) had people vote for whale_race, toy_fort, or koth_megaman probably around 60% of the time and people actually HATED them, mostly for how overplayed they were but also I remember complaints about toy_fort being too chokey, there was a lot of negativity around them and it's sort of sweet to hear about them again some 10 years after I last played them and finally see some positivity

[@billymkj2763]

1:04:00 omg i know this map from Typical Colors 2, which is the roblox version of tf2, which has bosses on it too, wow, the map on TC2 is much more detailed, but I can really see the inspirations

[@RealKirb]

Fun Fact: Muselk made a video years and years ago and Dml_Whoaaaa was one of the maps he played. He and the entitre rest of the server were unable to play it due to being unable to move and falling out of the spot then respawning.

[@numbskull4899]

i have found the origin of the 9_6_12 map Its an achievement idle map made by the "negroserver" community back in 2012

[@JoshuaMemers]

I would’ve imagine a TF2 Map where you could enter Non-Openable Doors and Enter some rooms with Machine Stuffs and Explore outside the map.

[@cammycakesss]

the 4chan party van is still around! they host servers with community map servers every weekend on /v/

[@cookie572]

I absolutely adore weird obscure maps

[@LapinesHaven]

I remember playing 9_6_12 or... Something similar to that map on silly purple's server.. Does anyone else remember that?

[@warmustbelikeart]

this is a really well made video! I really love it a lot, so so much content. at 12:08 i wanted to say some stuff about mge, mge_training_v8_beta4b isn't the mge map with the most content, but it is the mge map thats been around the longest and has the most popularity. Also the map creator's name is pronounced layng, not lanje

[@d-tergent7899]

I remember joining a jailbreak server once, realized I forgot how it works, and left lol

[@Dafuqinator7]

I am very glad you featured tc_meridian here. It's one of the most underrated maps in TF2's history given how good it is, both in detail and gameplay. I am surprised you haven't noticed that the map maker went the extra mile of creating a proper Intro Movie for it, along with the many little details around it.

[@blackirontarkus2672]

I thought Ach_Apg would make the spot here. That map's real iconic. I would also mentions gmodtech_hotel but their servers that hosted the maps has long shutdown for years.

[@tophonator]

Gmodtech, definitely an interesting community that is worth talking about soon. In fact that was one of my planned videos before this one !!

[@Constipated_Pikachu]

There is a server that I stumbled upon recently. It’s called “The C*m Zone” and it runs a map called heavy_warehouse_v115. Haven’t been able to find the map anywhere online, just on this server.

[@tophonator]

Map sounds interesting, but the name of the server is a little strange 😅

[@Constipated_Pikachu]

@@tophonator Yeah the name of the server is certainly odd, but the map has nothing to do with the server name.

[@JustCallMeHeavy]

Interesting.

[@Constipated_Pikachu]

@@JustCallMeHeavy indeed.

[@sacrishee3188]

@@tophonator hey, I just want to remind you of this comment, because I too have found that server and it's really strange. The name of it has nothing to do with the map and it's actually very creepy. There are no memes on this map. No images at all, if I remember correctly. I believe it's even more strange than the last map on this Iceberg (as heavy_warehouse_v115 is pretty much a mystery for what it is). I did a private investigation on it with friends and, using the freecam observer mode, we have stumbled upon strange inaccessible areas that seem to serve a purpose, but it is unclear what for. There is an entire underground section of the map that's inaccessible. A strange snowy dimension exists hidden above the skybox. It has a mansion-type building with normal and hidden rooms, some inaccessible due to a lack of doors. I understand if the server's name might scare you away, but it's honestly worth checking out. I have never seen a map anything like it, ESPECIALLY once you find all the hidden, mysterious areas. I tried finding info about the server and contacting its creator, but I haven't found any clues who made it. There is a link to a Discord server, but it's not working. You wouldn't regret giving it a watch. But if you do and find anything, please answer this comment. That server has not escaped my mind ever since.

[@teddybulpetto8783]

Didn't have much of an idea about TF2 before watching this, but you sir have peaked my interest. Thank you for an extremely well put together and interesting video.

[@burritoman2k]

I think cp_orange is the sole reason I loathe playing against snipers, such a horribly designed but iconic map

[@Solivagant_SB]

I still haven't finished this, but this has probably been one of my favorite videos on this platform as I have so many memories with friends on community servers and maps that I honestly have forgotten about. It's nice to remember those times :) Gonna edit this message if I see a {SuN} server mentioned. I was big into that and played it until it shutdown and then a small revival into dying again (Might have yet another revival in the coming years from Bolt) lmao

[@yushka1917]

I remember playing balloon race a couple years ago, maybe 2 or 3 years at max.

[@shads3955]

That’s interesting that you remember a different Surf_10x map the most. While I saw and played on several other variants of surf_10x I would always go to surf_10x_reload and as far as I can remember that was the most popular version. Definitely a very nostalgic map and I remember very fondly the genuine attempts at team coordination to gain “control” over the jail area. Like actual strategising in a surf combat server lmao

[@the-t-doggames1553]

I know for a fact a lot of these maps are on The Lazy Pup, so if anyone is trying to play these, check it out

[@SeleverEnjoyer]

ach_villain_city, actually quite often runs on the Brazillian server i play, there are normally more than 10 people playing at a time and it basically becomes a deathmatch or hangout server

[@creepersammyb2926]

what if cp_cloak is just the mercs playing around with toys in a box

[@whyismyhair2d]

I miss balloon_race so much. Me and my middle school friends used to populate servers back in the day, we'd be the first three to join and then watch 8 or more people tag along, it was great

[@cyqry]

44:32 I think this is a pretty common occurrence for websites that don't pay for their domain any longer. I'm not sure what exactly causes it since they usually end up going to an entire different domain, but its pretty standard to try going back to some old website and having it redirect to weird ad-riddled websites of questionable legalities. On an unrelated note; seeing so many community maps (I'm more of a Halo player myself but we have a lot of those too) its always fascinated me how the community can take an otherwise pretty standardised genre formula like FPS or RTS and make entirely new ideas out of it. Surfing, Death-runs, Halo's fatkid mode, even something like the MOBA genre being spawned out of custom maps from Warcraft 3... as an upstarting game developer, I feel the most important thing to a game's longevity is enabling the players to create their own source of fun within the game, even if it goes against your initial ideas for what the game could or should do.

[@wuzzle22]

If you want to do a follow up iceberg, one formerly well known map you missed is cp_bestinclass_v2

[@jackiechan9689]

Wish you’d have included cp_flood, which was one of the coolest ideas for a map I’d ever seen since that shibby vid 9 years ago

[@ZoeyTheSobble]

It's not a community map

[@MikeOTR]

It's insane how many of these maps I've played over my 10 years in TF2. Memories and so much more here

[@nomeansno5481]

The fact that I know almost all of these is very telling for me.

[@OniBurei]

I'd genuinely say Achievement_TurboV14 is where most of my hours of TF2 went, purely because there was such a nice community on the specific server I was on, used to use HLDJ and be one of the local DJ's that would hop in and take music requests over the mic, still talk to one or two of my old TF2 friends I made on there, genuinely wasted hours just fucking around, killing all the noobs that would jump in, can't believe I'm making a nostalgic comment for such a dumbass map hahahah GAMINGDELUXE V14 BOYS WHERE YOU AT

[@GenuineAnger_]

Man this iceberg was a nostalgia trip and a half! Ironically I would say this video scratches the tip of the community map iceberg lol. If you were to make a sequel, I’d recommend Daimconne’s maps like trade_houseofchaos2 and trade_abstract2

[@Shibacki]

God damn this is a good video. While watching it I kept hoping you would cover this one map I'm not sure I'll ever see again. I'm not sure of the name, but you spawn on the outside of the Mao Zedong memorial hall taken from Tiananmen Square. I believe the map takes place at night, but it doesn't really matter much because it only serves as an entrance to the building, which is an endless maze of insanity that I don't remember too much. I want to say there was a cosmic room with space textures all over, but I might be thinking of a different map. If anyone has even a hint of an idea of what I'm talking about, I would love to know.

[@XxguaxinimxX.]

That was an outstanding project! Loved the video!

[@tophonator]

Many thanks friend!!🙌

[@siw-]

man thanks for this video it brought me so much memories , also i forgot the name of that 2 ships map (ctf_viking) thankfully i came here and saw it!!

[@e-o-o]

There’s a little map that’s really good that most people don’t know. It definitely deserves more love and is way too obscure. The map is called 2fort(weird name I know I know).

[@PiepProductions]

5:35 I actually made the nodegraph for the guy who ported that map to gmod. Kinda just felt like mentioning that.

[@wolfcl0ck]

One of my classmates sent me a message at 1 in the morning asking what I was doing in your video at 6:49.

[@Slomi_DMC]

This video needs subtitles for the Spanish TF2 community and more attention (This video is so good edited)

[@tones3dferret]

I believe the weird island on 9_6_12 is a loose reference to the Baar Dau asteroid from Morrowind, seeing as other games are referenced on the map

[@stuka1111]

damn you deserve more subs i thought i was watching a 1 mil youtuber

[@mountainhaze64]

I played Surf_10x back in Counter Strike Source. The old screen shot of the 10x jail you showed was how the map was textured in CSS. This leads me to believe the map was ported over from that game. I did some quick google searches but all I could find was a mix version released in 2012.

[@mountainhaze64]

Ok, I watched a bit more of the vid. I'm kicking myself! I was so excited to see such a nostalgic map, couldn't bare that it's origins were being forgotten.

[@mountainhaze64]

I can trace back to when I first played it. Around February 2010.