What If You Still Want to Stay with Your Unhappy Wife?

[@thehappywifeschool]

"I agree. My oath is integral to my character and a compromise of one is a compromise of the other. To walk away from my vow, my commitment, even I'm the only person in the world who knows, would shatter my personal values...it would forever put a question mark on my integrity. How can anyone have trust in my word if I don't believe it? Know it, for a fact, clear of disclaimers or convenient excuses. To me character is absolutely binary, you have it or you don't...simple as that." Men of character: these are the good men I am speaking to. Thank you for your words, @robinfleet7094.

[@whateverman13]

What's your perspective on the saying "weak men make angry women?"

[@pietpompiepompiepiet940]

Thanks for videos it really helps. My wife after 28yr wants to go solo. I came to conclusion and told her You do as you please Im not signing divorce Also not going to initiate divorce I have 50% faults but we knew each other for 7years before we got married so the excuse cant be my fault 100% she test drive the car long time before purschase. From religious aspect i wont divorce but she can if she wants too. At least i can come clean with a clean slate I told her we have to make it work altough she said she checked out and does not want to try. I can forgive her for any mishap she is maybe hiding but will leave that card for the end. I am gathering evidence that i tried Dont want her to tell anybody it was my fault For now I just ask God to help her maybe she is demon possest but all i know is my wife is gone and overnight i have a monster on my hands. But i will get through this the right way fully composed. Many fish in the sea but this one on the hook is fighting to be released😂 On a side note It is not a walk in the park It is not easy to cope the sudden rejection You will cry you will have questions You will have this disbelief that everything of 28yr come crashing down with only a few words. What helped is getting bible quotes on marriage and am going sending it to her.

[@PMrighteous]

@@pietpompiepompiepiet940 I tried fully composed and getting through it. I blew it today. After the silent treatment, the gaslighting, the denial of intimacy and love, and the demands that I provide for each and everything broke me this morning. I got bullied once again again, and lost my composure and said a bunch of things. Worst is that it was in front of the kids. So I blew it. Thank you for posting your comment because too often I feel like I’m all alone in this.

[@maxcactus7]

If she INSISTS on being a miserable, angry witch who blames you for everything, do NOT walk, RUN and GTFO! She will destroy you, your fortune, your career, your reputation and your relationship with God, your kids, your friends, siblings and yourself!

[@TheFloridaprepper]

Or laugh at her until she stops. When she stops, treat her well. When she does it again, laugh at her again and go about your business. You'll usually end up in the bedroom before the day is done.

[@thehappywifeschool]

@maxcactus7, thank you for your comment. To be clear, my channel isn't for abusive relationships; it is for typical, traditional marriages that have everyday, ordinary problems.

[@thehappywifeschool]

@@TheFloridaprepper, thank you for your comment. What a constructive perspective to deal with your wife's woman ways rather than being a "runaway man." PS. Not sure about the bedroom part for most good men, but lucky you if that is your experience :)

[@TheFloridaprepper]

@@thehappywifeschool It is, actually. It's the most effective strategy I've found for ending the poking, prodding, complaining, and general irrational behavior as quickly as possible. And the more often you use it, the more effective it becomes in ending the behavior.

[@mattrandall1808]

​@@TheFloridaprepper that provokes rage in certain people. ask me how I know. I've tried that before. be careful if attempting to employ this tactic. Rage is scary and dangerous.

[@smokey3829]

If you’re going to stick it out … Proverbs 25:24: “It is better to dwell in a corner of a housetop, Than in a house shared with a contentious woman.” Best of luck.

[@miamijules2149]

THAT SENTENCE IS SO TRUE AND APPLICABLE THAT GOD HIMSELF INCLUDED IT IN THE BIBLE!! THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE!! GOD! THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE!! LOLOL

[@snowyowlz5992]

To me knowing where that source of contention and childhood sexual trauma came from (her parents and them wanting her DEAD and seeking her demise) still was a tough road and bitter pill to swallow yet to outright abandon her (which her father advised me to do) did not sit well with me. Hard as it was, I miss her not the medical conditions, I’m glad I remained with her as husband and caregiver honoring our marriage vows as best as possible. She passed away three years ago. Now I remain MGTOW. I have no wish to remarry then be someone’s else’s caregiver… I do like the concept of marriage as G-d intended. ❤

[@upsidedown4734]

Similar story for me. ​@@snowyowlz5992

[@chris2790]

While you're quoting scripture, let's be comprehensive lest you lead others astray. Matt 19:9 - and I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery. Matt. 5:19 - but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. If you have a problematic spouse, learn how to address the issues. Get help if/as you need it.

[@snowyowlz5992]

@@chris2790 I’ve known of two marriages where the wife was off the rails mentally, in one she was a teacher and husband was a medical doctor; I can not speak about today but in the early Sixties he fled out of state to save his life because she was trying to kill him. Having known this “grandmother” of my wife there was no repair, fixing, reconciliation ever possible. She was in agreement with the family about my wife “the only thing she can do right is to die”, my wife was the family scapegoat. “Grandmother” was in her late Seventies then. Dealing with this “stuff” takes its toll and recovery is slow.

[@ChristopherFox-b8m]

My children are grown. A wife can offer me nothing. Men go live your best life and stop trying to make these women happy.

[@johnhazlett3711]

Once my ex made an unnecessarily harsh, critical statement. I quietly, gently said that the Remark she said was inappropriate. She railed on me for days when I had the audacity to stand up for myself in a diplomatic manner. No, too many women age blind to the fact they're spoiled brats. It's a twisted version of the Miranda rights, "Whatever, however, you say anything, WILL be used against you". Not, only that, marriage rates are plummeting, because too many Western women are not worth the risk nor trouble.

[@InstigatingInsulator]

The world hasn’t needed the courts to cancel anyone for some time now… and the courts don’t see justice very often

[@rougebaba3887]

Your "Miranda Rights" comment made me smile... I smiled in agreement. I came to an emotional breaking point when out of me poured incident after incident in which my wife was disrespectful, emasculating and down right emotionally abusive. Somewhere in the midst of this long confession about her horrible behaviors, I said something like, "As I am thinking of all these times, I am feeling those same emotions I felt then, only now it is not only sadness and loneliness, I feel rage." And after I was done, completely DONE with everything, telling her how these behaviors made me feel unwanted, unattractive, miserable, depressed, etc., what was the one comment my wife focused on? Yep... "You used the word 'rage'."

[@rhino10001]

I've told my boys to consider every woman as Miranda, your words WILL be used against you. Don't reveal much and don't get weak and trusting just because you're having a good time at the moment.

[@kellygreenii]

Too many women are never taught to discipline their emotions. So they reach adulthood with the emotional maturity of a child.

[@davefarnsworth3020]

Mine was covert narcissist. It's a wonder I'm still alive.

[@kennethnewman6309]

Me too. See my comment below.

[@jamesyoung187]

This advice is really hard for the "good man" who took his marriage vows 'till death do you part'. Leaving just doesn't come as an option. 😢😢😢

[@racebannon96]

After our kids were born, the emaciation started. No support or affection. I got no help with our kids and chores. I was working at least 45-50 hours a week. I found myself in depression because the wife had gotten so hateful. She finally gave me the best gift. She left us after lining up a boyfriend. I got the divorce done quickly and got custody of our children. I was heading to an early grave until she abandoned us "to find herself."

[@InstigatingInsulator]

Sounds like you need a shovel 😂

[@DJPapzin]

​@@racebannon96did she find herself? Has she tried to come back yet?

[@racebannon96]

@@DJPapzin She tried coming back two months later after she left. I said No. I don’t know,if she ever found herself. I went No Contact about 15 years ago. She hates me. Everything is my fault.

[@robinfleet7094]

I agree. My oath is integral to my character and a compromise of one is a compromise of the other. To walk away from my vow, my commitment, even I'm the only person in the world who knows, would shatter my personal values...it would forever put a question mark on my integrity. How can anyone have trust in my word if I don't believe it? Know it, for a fact, clear of disclaimers or convenient excuses. To me character is absolutely binary, you have it or you don't...simple as that.

[@ruralsquirrel5158]

Improving myself did the opposite with my ex wife. It only made her hate me more, resent me more, and pull away from me more. Nothing I did was good enough, no changes made her happy. Let's not forget that the book of Proverbs in the Bible warns men many times about bad wives: "It is better to live in a desert land than with a quarrelsome and fretful woman." "It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife." "A continual dripping on a rainy day and a quarrelsome wife are alike;" Holy Scriptures were based and red-pilled already 3000 years ago.

[@antonioamaral7471]

👍🏻

[@racebannon96]

A foolish woman will destroy her own household with her two hands….Proverbs 14:1

[@jaymylar1726]

Yea, i agree, ever since i got a good professional job, got fit, self educated and developed goals and hobbies my wife has changed from loving and calm to emasculating, domineering and completely disrespectful

[@zcreate_great]

@ruralsquirrel5158 I think this fits with when an alcoholic becomes sober. Everyone is left with the realization it was not the alcoholics problem alone. They have to change or leave to cover their brokenness. It happened with my first wife. With my current wife positive changes have been met with more simple affection like holding hands and cuddling. Some women are open to move forward and some are not. Radical self transformation will cause the blaming spouse to walk or have a come to Jesus moment. I was really thankful when my ex wife walked. I never broke my vows. And that was just the first part of my journey as a man

[@parkyhobo5688]

Good advice. Once I decided the marriage was over, I took FIVE years to learn and grow from it before divorcing. I wanted MASTERY... to understand things thoroughly. Consumed red-pill content voraciously. I got to where I could predict her every mood and reaction. Became a stoic sigma. Three kids involved... made sure to get my relationship with them super strong. Got finances strong, then initiated divorce. That was 4 years ago... very happy I did it this way... and very happy I did it. She was never going to change.

[@DJPapzin]

And how is she now?

[@parkyhobo5688]

@@DJPapzin More humble, but no real big change. Won't let go of the deep rooted feminist ideology installed in college. She has too much invested in it and will go down with the ship.

[@ThankYouJesusChrist777]

I pray that she seeks and finds happiness for herself. WE ALL DESERVE PEACE

[@racebannon96]

If a woman is miserable, she wants everyone around her miserable. Nearly all of them that are miserable will blame someone for their misery. Miserable wives that divorce their husbands think jumping into another relationship will bring them happiness. It doesn’t work for them. Consider it a gift when the wife leaves you for greener grass.

[@SK-wx4xb]

When I married my wife she was truly perfect. After 23 wonderful blessed 🎉years she has changed. Got what she wanted, used me to provide, then started withholding… no sex, no affection, no fun,no touching _ now she has no need for me. I fear she can’t change back to her old happy self who loved showed affection, sex etc. For the first time in watching all Karyn’s videos I don’t follow or ageee with her that a good man can stay if the wife doesn’t change. Why continue to be subjected to withholding.?? i don’t want to lose her but she has pushed me away too far. She hates me trying to show her Happy Wife School videos too. I can’t fix this… or can I? If so how?

[@SomeGuy-xf9bc]

What's really going to blow your nut is contemplating if she ever really loved you at all. Women are very good at playing along while they feel they have more to extract. Once you have become useless in her eyes, you get to see the reality of things.

[@AMNationMedia]

Work on yourself. Improve yourself. What you want right now is solely focused on what she can do for you. You need to focus on what you do for yourself right now. Hit the gym, find a new hobby, find community with a group of men. Play pickle ball or something. Take a trip by yourself. If she’s still attracted or still has interest in you, you’ll be a magnet and pull her right in by doing you and enjoying your time. Be that young man again.

[@Josh-do8pg]

You dont have control over what she does or thinks. You only have control over yourself, your actions and you own happiness. First, women don't love the same way, so you have to understand she does not love you like you love her. I can't emphasize that enough. I sure made that mistake. Understanding this will help you make whatever decision you choose. You have to decide if you want to stay or go. Both will be hard, realize staying might be harder. But you have to commit either way. I dont know your specific situation, ie it could be possible she's been having an affair. Or gotten emotionally involved with another man. You'd be surprised what women are capable of. If you do choose to go there is Chance she could change. Ie her seeing you mean what you say and the consequences. Asking her watch videos or talking wont do anything, words are wind and women know that. Actions have power, but you have to mean it. 💯 done kind of mean it. If you stay, well theres no guarantee. And it will be hard. Become more attractive, go to the gym. Spend less time with her and more on your hobbies or friends. Do fun stuff. Stand up for yourself. Dont get pushed around or manipulated by her. Be more social, with other people. Smile more. All the while, not getting angry, not getting resentful and remaining calm. A tough task. If a man works on himself to become more happy/attractive most of the time women will get worried their man will get taken by other women and fight to keep him. Unless shes cheating that is. And if she doesn't change, well, you'll be in a better position to move on. Bc both choices are tough. Whatever your choice wish you the best brother.

[@SK-wx4xb]

Thank you. All good points and helpful

[@melkerner]

same here - once we adopted the kids, she got her family and security, the withholding started. Worked 90-100 hour work weeks to accommodate stay at home for the kids and what do I get for it - ignored, less than Chad who used to get it for free. Not a touch or kiss in 8+ years, and damned little before that (previous 7). It's true, once she got what she wanted, I was no longer needed. We have hashed this out and she acted like I slapped her across the face when I said it. I have simply told her that I don't know how much longer I can wait for her to come back.

[@brent3760]

This makes me so depressed, but it is a well needed message. I am emasculated daily. Daily

[@racebannon96]

A lot of us have been through it too. You are not alone. Work on yourself. Exercise. Psalms was a big help to me when I was going through my divorce. Loneliness, despair, depression. and dealing with enemies. It is in Psalms.

[@harmz1503]

It’s so liberating when you finally leave so do it whilst you still have life in you and live your life

[@skenobi]

I pray my ex wife will attain the level of awareness you've achieved, and I pray for her happiness regardless. Thanks so much for your videos. God Bless.

[@antonioamaral7471]

👍🏻

[@happyactivehealthy100years4]

Thanks It is important to have a choice between staying and leaving, as well as deciding when and under what conditions you will leave your wife. Usually, leaving wife, house & kids, when being unprepared, is a bad choice. Once you find out what your wife is doing to you, you should invest several years into preparing yourself for the exit. The more independence you gain during and through this preparation, the less of a bully your wife will be. It’s hard to “constantly eat shit” for many years, but if you succeed to maneuver yourself into a position of independence - regarding finances - regarding having the kids at least half of the time - regarding feeling lonely - regarding being isolated from your family and friends - etc., then you can leave your wife and find peace. It’s hard, but often it’s worth the sacrifice. Note: Staying forever in such a toxic place is not good for your mental health. Doing it for a period of time, in order to bring yourself into a position of peace and satisfaction is excellent. During the period of “eating shit” you learn and grow. In the period after the exit from toxicity you can be a fantastic father, a great friend, a caring family member and in general a good and strong person.

[@JamesPetroff]

I agree that you have to correct the behavior. You have to set boundaries. It is not okay to try to bully. There is no love in that at all. It IS abuse. And if princess cannot grow up, then you have to dump her. You are not The Giving Tree, where she rips you apart and leaves nothing but a stump. Nope. If she neither loves herself or you, she is not a wife. She is not a friend. She is an abusive creep, likely a covert narcissist who is irredeemable and will spend the rest of her life trying to destroy you by any means: lies, slander, theft, violence, parental alienation, ect ..

[@antonioamaral7471]

👍🏻

[@antonioamaral7471]

Perfeito

[@clubdesalud1488]

You completely described the relationship I had with my ex-wife. Sadly, I am advising my sons not to get married but if they do, to do so with a contract and to lock any assets that they have in a legal structure that can not be divorce raped.

[@antonioamaral7471]

👍🏻

[@TheFloridaprepper]

I just laugh at my wife when she exhibits this behavior and sometimes mock her. Happily married (usually).

[@ghostoferlock]

'Womanly ways' would be supportive, communicative, and putting happy marriage at the top of the list', what Karyn is describing with gaslighting, mental stress, constant unhappiness and lack of accountability is just downright 'mental abuse'.

[@SomeGuy-xf9bc]

What Karen is describing is women who embody the devouring mother. It's a sad reality for many men. If it weren't she wouldn't have the audience she does.

[@jamesyoung187]

Another-words "narcissism".

[@Gotter-fj3pq]

@@ghostoferlock There are ideal womanly ways and the ones all too many of us experience on a daily basis.

[@thehappywifeschool]

@ghostoferlock, thank you for your comments. My message is that it is only mental abuse if you allow it to be. You are the only the one that can allow someone to mentally abuse you.

[@thehappywifeschool]

@@Gotter-fj3pq, spot on.

[@christopherpayne8146]

I remember those days. I am so thankful my ex wife filled for divorce. I wish her the best of luck.

[@user-ew8ye1fu5t]

She mocked your school and refused to change so I chose to leave. Only 29 days left until final decree. Thankyou for articulating what I couldn’t. You’re message is gold and I’ll no longer settle for less. 15 years down the drain but I have hope for my future.

[@antonioamaral7471]

👍🏻

[@chrisgoodwin3105]

Really enjoy the education you provide. Can you please continue to provide education and skills specifically geared to help a good man live with, overcome, and learn from the environment we live in, with a unhappy wife?

[@zcreate_great]

I am committed to my marriage and commited to having as much of a bullet proof identity, character, and will. Not easy when flaming arrows are aimed where they count most. Life is tough, marriage is tougher.

[@rhino10001]

At 8:01, she nails it. I gave 28 years trying to understand her misery and harsh ways and how I was so awful. For past 9 I've not allowed any of the bullying and call her out without long stupid, pointless conversations. I don’t engage much. I have worked hard at disassociating emotional connections including not sleeping in same bed. It's helpful lest you go utterly insane. Kids almost out of the house so zreo reason to stay but meanwhile I'll remain decent and considerate to the point of not be emotional with my live-in hater.

[@antonioamaral7471]

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[@racebannon96]

“Live-in hater”, excellent term. I had one too. She finally left us. I helped her pack her stuff.

[@paulclinton6414]

Passports, brothers. Not all societies reward women to be deporables.

[@davefarnsworth3020]

As soon as I can get my home sold. Been learning Brazilian Portuguese and increasing my Spanish as well as a little Quechua (Incan), and Tagalog. I have options 😁.

[@RyanFowlerSOS]

I'm in Mexico it's great! About 30-40% of the women are still really good, kind, traditional women. Whatever quality woman you find in a culture that supports bad female behavior, you'll find a better woman in a culture that supports good female behavior. People who trash passport bros have never done it. They're speaking purely from ignorance. My friends who are passport bros and myself are all like "hey this is great!" Yes there are challenges but it's worth it.

[@thehappywifeschool]

@paulclinton6414, thank you for your comment. For the good men reading this, be sure to watch my video on Passport Bros: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e166Y3evfLqWmrssi=xfQyoEmDet3MzpAt

[@RyanFowlerSOS]

@@thehappywifeschool I watched it already. I'm a passport bro, or more of an expat living in Mexico. There are serious flaws in your p.b. argument. Many people confuse instinct such as hypergamy with subconscious programming from parents and culture. They don't know where one ends and the other begins. Rollo Tomassi gets this wrong as well. Women's instinct of course is the same world-wide, but there's a wide variance in female behavior due to culture. Only after you've lived for extended periods of time in multiple foreign countries will you have a clear picture of what is one and what is the other. I've lived in Costa Rica, Mexico and the Philippines. Much of your content is absolutely amazing, but your video on passport bros is more wrong than right. Nonetheless a good man needs strong boundaries and belief in his worth no matter where he lives. I think that we agree on. Keep on putting out good content Karen! But re-think what you believe about p.b. and non-western women. Maybe talk to several who are doing it successfully. Dr. Orion Taraband (Psychacks) went to Japan for a month, and it blew his mind. He did a 180 on p.b. Watch his video kzbin.info/www/bejne/rovQlWh9Zc95n80

[@InsertAUserNameHere]

If you chose to stay with an unhappy wife, you have chosen to be unhappy. Suck it up, you chose it.

[@InstigatingInsulator]

Stoicism taught me that we shouldn’t let it affect you if it’s out of your control … the fortunate part is the happier you are the more miserable they seem but there’s a few small stent’s that the happiness is contagious 😂

[@thekoobas6763]

So true. So true. 100% agreement. It kind of boils down to "fight fire with fire", but that's more less what it is. Be more alpha. Be as alpha as you can be. It will only help.

[@thehappywifeschool]

@thekoobas6763, thank you for your comment. A good man trying to be more alpha will only put him in a power struggle with his wife. He has to be who he is as a good man and lead from a place of composure and inner confidence.

[@chmjones3354]

​@@thehappywifeschool I find myself in that very situation. Fortunately for her I am very patient and therefore very composed

[@KJ-pu8dw]

'She bullys you because she can' at 4.48 in. Ask yourself this; would you bully her? I mean your over double her physical strength. No?! Why not? Because you have love for her. So what does that mean for her love and respect towards you? It means it does not exist. Leave her.

[@Karloz-zr3hv]

Don’t stay or never will get better. Best to leave and just be happy me happy we not trying to help her and put things forward like happy wife happy life. It just gets too messy. Leave

[@BH195829]

Your challenging wife, is in deed, your greatest teacher … never a truer statement. The key is to get what you need, want, signed up for, while not capitulating to any BS and without becoming ugly yourself; you can grow from the experience, and as you state - stand up to and point out the BS before things get out of hand. You can make it work, grow and have fun. 🙏

[@thehappywifeschool]

@BH195829, thank you. Well said. It is a choice to grow and learn from life's adversities rather than being a victim.

[@fmagalhaes1521]

Proverbs 21:19 It is better to live in the wilderness than to live with a conentious and an angry woman.

[@antonioamaral7471]

👍🏻

[@Nordic_Sky]

As I've said before, give her a few chances. Then bail if she's not willing to seek help or change, even if you have kids. This life is not a dress rehearsal, folks. You need to be happy and pursuing happiness in a constructive fashion is the path you should take. I got divorced from an impossible US woman and decided to date internationally. I'm 62 and now have a gorgeous wife, 31. Couldn't be happier.

[@thehappywifeschool]

@Nordic_Sky, thank you for your comment. I ask good men, " What is it about you that attracted an impossible US woman?" That's how we grow and learn from our mistakes in life.

[@Nordic_Sky]

@@thehappywifeschool When I got married, my wife was a slim, attractive woman, 35, who wanted a family. As soon as we had kids, she wasn't interested in me at all any more. She put on 35-40 pounds, became shrill, demanding, and bossy. It quickly became apparent she only married me because the clock was ticking on her having kids and she liked my DNA. Once we had kids my whole role to her was ATM, taxi driver and baby sitter. So, to answer your question, she changed. After being single for 20 years I am now happily married to a much younger woman. No problems.

[@Dee-th4mr]

​@@Nordic_Skyyou should be glad that it was 35-40 my wife is probably 100-120 pounds heavier and the attitude is the same. She used to care about herself and how she looked but like most good men will do I went along without comment thinking she would be happier that way. So wrong. The additional issue usually stems from the fact that she will not "do" anything to change it. Rather just blames other things for it. Trying to decide when I need a new "teacher."

[@Nordic_Sky]

@@Dee-th4mr Yes sir, I've heard all the excuses for why she can't lose weight: hormones, if she went to the gym she would never see me, gym is too crowded, etc. I lost patience with all that stuff. My wife is now young and 107 lbs.

[@Dee-th4mr]

Sadly I watched her mother do the same and she swore that she never would. Enough time with the excuses and there's no way out. The word "can't" should be replaced with "wont".

[@neohermitist]

I don't really want to, but finances and a special needs child sorta keep me around.

[@Plumduff3303]

I hear you pal

[@joekeegan-yc4nm]

Love the information you share mate! ❤️

[@robertanderson5092]

I only chose to stay to protect the children. We agreed to do couples therapy. Found the best. At the end of first session we scheduled second session. Morning of second session asked about babysitter. Got gaslighted that we did not have a second session scheduled. Called doctor and found that she had talked to wife about individual sessions because of her initial observations. Wife freaked out and cancelled. Doctor called again to talk to me but wife would not put her though.

[@davidneufeld8824]

Great teaching ❤I love it❤

[@smokingcrab2290]

What makes me weak is I've been brainwashed to be weak. I've been brainwashed to stay and to keep going because of my religion. She's been allowed to get away with everything. I have a son and I don't want to leave him. Everything in me is telling me to leave but my fear of God is the ONLY thing keeping me here.

[@francoiskeulen]

"It’s better to live alone in the desert than with a quarrelsome, complaining wife." Source Bible; Proverbs 21:19

[@senyaw53]

Don’t worry about God. He will support you in what ever you choose to do. I understand staying to be there for you son. I did for my three.

[@SomeGuy-xf9bc]

I stayed for my son as well. I still think it was worth it for my sons sake. That being said, the cost to me was extreme.

[@BillTony2]

What's your religion?

[@wascawywabbit0987]

According to Jesus, adultery is the only reason to divorce. That doesn't mean you can't leave her. You just can't have sex with another woman. Leaving her may cause her to have a relationship with another man. If she has sex with him then you're off the hook. She may divorce you anyway, still no sex until after she does.

[@geesehoward7261]

What about if her coping with her walls affects the children who then go on to become identical to the mother in that they see this distancing and walls-based relationship as the standard for intimacy. This will lead to them becoming unhappy and dysfunctional in their lives and relationships and the trauma just continues to the next generation

[@elderberry63]

You are correct! Modeling dysfunction in your marriage, is a sure fire way to perpetuate generational curses.

[@stevejackson8625]

The reddest of pills. So be it.

[@martyyoung598]

Good one , Karyn, very timely. Something I needed to hear at this juncture in my journey! Keep up the good work!

[@thehappywifeschool]

@martyyoung598, thank you for sharing, Marty :)

[@SKBottom]

There are victims and there are volunteers. Don't be a volunteer.

[@DonFarmer-hq5sw]

I’m applying for my passport as I watch this video ❤😊

[@johnizitchiforalongtime]

My ex, apologised last week, i forgave her. She lost weight, she lost two accts for being scammed. I asked if she would like company for an hour this week, she said she will let me know. Still waiting, God is giving me patience for this.

[@DJPapzin]

You plan on taking her back?

[@johnizitchiforalongtime]

@@DJPapzin I'm thinking hard on this one. She seems to be sincere.

[@andybankston8413]

They can always seem sincere when it will benefit them. Mine is very good at seeming sincere. I’ve just recently started my several year exit plan, if it wasn’t for our 7year old daughter who is do innocent and loving I’d be gone, my wife has her so in meshed that she thinks she can’t do anything with out my wife’s approval or even be away from her for several hours. It’s hard to watch

[@Slow_Hand_Path]

I chose to stay for my child and it culminated with my wife calling the police, lying to them and having me arrested. I got her therapy, marriage counseling and even into Karen's program. In the end she tried to have me destroyed. She ran off with my child, told the courts I was violent and now I can't see my son. I tried to leave several times and she threatened to hurt herself each time. I never realized how dangerous the situation was. Now she has our child and hates me more than she loves him.

[@mattrandall1808]

shes NPD

[@Slow_Hand_Path]

@@mattrandall1808 I think so. I've heard this from others too. I didn't know about npd until it bit me

[@antonioamaral7471]

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[@antonioamaral7471]

O resultado de décadas de falei feminismo, doutrinação da tv, escola, falsa igreja, convívio com seres humanos ruins e invejosos e muito hormônio nós alimentos. Fique bem

[@hurricaneaquatics]

So in other words, if you stay with a bad woman, you must become a bad man. It's a choice of integrity. Don't want to be a bully, want to be able to have a loving relationship? Drop the bad woman and find one that has some common sense and decency.

[@antonioamaral7471]

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[@antonioamaral7471]

É isso

[@RyanFowlerSOS]

You can be a good man and have strong boundaries. Toxic shame tied to subconscious childhood trauma is the true root of what weakens good men and makes them susceptible to bullying. Heal toxic shame and a good man stops taking shit from his wife or anyone else. Dr. Robert Glover talks about it in his excellent book "No More Mr. Nice Guy" but doesn't go into how you can rapidly re-wire toxic shame out of your subconscious. Still a great book though.

[@PublishWithEmissary]

That’s my choice. I would never walk out on my sons just because things aren’t going my way. My dad never walked out on us even though my mom went clinically insane after I was born. But he wasn’t into personal growth and development … I can make that choice, because of my faith and convictions.

[@Tempestelterna]

For me, she felt unheard and like Her Opinion didn’t matter and she felt I emotionally neglected her while working to make A living for our family while trying to learn how to parent and also try to carve time for us and myself. Before she wanted a divorce to happen, I tried everything I could (within reason) to make things clear I didn’t want to divorce and I wanted to change things for the both of us for the better but in the end, she chose to check out and others saw it as well and wondered why I am sticking around. As a man, who takes marriage seriously and vows seriously (we made it in front of God Himself), the fact I have to get divorced although adultery never took place but it was something that could be fixed (if she actually wanted it to, since I’m More than willing to do whatever it took to make it work), is what hurt me. But, when this is over, I will aim to find someone who’s better for me and I can lavish with love like I wanted to do for her. It’s just a shame my kids will have to bear witness to that instead of their parents being together forever. And I never wanted that for them either. I wanted to give them an example that they could Follow !! 😢

[@kat-601]

God wants you happy. Do not stay if she refuses to change. Why have 2 unhappy people when it could be one. Learn how to identity gaslighting & be prepared to call it like it is. Men stand up to your wife she wants you to trust me she sees you as a weak man if you let her run over you. She has De-masculated you to the point she's is no longer sexuallyv attracted to you. And you both are unhappy face it, it's freedom to stand-up or leave them if need be. Let them know you will leave.

[@Gotter-fj3pq]

@kat-601 God calls you to holiness. That may or may lead to happiness this side of Heaven.

[@kat-601]

@@Gotter-fj3pq Christians get that part wrong. I'll assume you were Indoctrinated by the church. You need to wake up. God does not want you unhappy & suffering to "get" closer to him. That's ridiculous.

[@InstigatingInsulator]

You stay together to not make 4 people unhappy 😂

[@urbanart7325]

I wrote notes etc. can't be.

[@robertblanks9602]

God bless you Karen 👏🙏☝️💪🏻

[@USER_S4V4NT]

iv learned from dads mistakes and wins, i want to get married and ill do my best to be a good husband, but if worst comes to worst my 2 only options are peace for both of us or peace for neither of us, ill be ready to fight a divorce and protect my assets.

[@KJ-pu8dw]

@USER_S4V4NT_your a fool. You are heading into trouble. Do not marry.

[@lucentsoundlabs6021]

There are a few different other intellectuals who seem to study this behavior that are giving good information. However, not one of them has mentioned actions for that man if he has a child with the unhappy woman. I’m starting to see people wanting this information in the comments

[@DJPapzin]

I agree

[@hyphynorcalgirl]

What if the husband does not want to be a good man, and hes not fulfilling the most basic foundational things...like trust, security, and love?

[@hyphynorcalgirl]

You can only blame the woman so much, before you realize that some men just simply DO NOT CARE! Like when someone doesn't even care if the wife is in the hospital for a kidney infection that was caused by the man's uncleanliness?

[@hyphynorcalgirl]

I'm sorry but if only 1 PERSON IS TRYING IN THE RELATIONSHIP, HOW WILL IT GET BETTER?

[@hyphynorcalgirl]

I agree with most everything you say, but you seem to be giving the man a free get out of jail pass, when he's not upholding his vows that he made at his marriage.

[@hyphynorcalgirl]

Your marriage vows should be taken into consideration, when thinking about what the husband is or isn't doing to help the relationship.

[@hyphynorcalgirl]

You are also implying that all men are "good men" as far as husband's go...I understand the things u are saying, but if you caught him lying, cheating, and doing wrong, how does that make him a good man?

[@mattkennedy837]

Great topic

[@JRRodriguez-nu7po]

Most (all?) bullies are actually feel inferior in some way to others. Women look for men that are better than them (taller , stronger, richer, more intelligent etc) than them. After marriage over time her admiration turns to fear and that turns on the bully. Peter the Apostle was married and his advice is exactly the same: to the husband study your wife to learn how to guide her. To the wife, do not fear and ibey because God is greater than your husband. It is interesting how the Scripture is ignored by modern Churchianity. As for my happy 44 year marriage I thank God and Scripture. I have always ignored the pastors who routinely give advice contrary to Scripture. This woman may not know it but she is speaking exactly as Scripture teaches on marriage. Too bad almost no Christian counselors do.

[@urbanart7325]

I don't think she is into me any more

[@bashiruddinahmad408]

My wife has gas lighted me its been quiet for weeks now she has no desire to help me at all.. financially emotionally we agreed last March the marriage was over..i told her i was contesting the divorce she called me a bi##th Mother F and some more choice words..

[@urbanart7325]

I want stay. She does not want at the age of 62

[@jackyoung2198]

Tactics = devices

[@ntaylor0214]

So me!

[@carlessola343]

I strongly disagree with that one, why will a man stay with a disagreeable woman that will make his life a living hell? Leaving evil people alone is the best choice by far, it's not even worth losing a second, most people only charge to the worse

[@bobbyhughes4895]

You can choose to stay and try to win her heart. But the she chooses to divorce you and go try another man even before the divorce is final. WHILE I was actively taking care of her and still trying to win her heart.

[@DJPapzin]

It's a zero sum game

[@jonnjones8263]

Thats a terrible fucking idea. This is why men should never chase women. You have to make them chase you. Become attractive and let them come to you. If not move on to a new women. Thats how you have to treat them. They have to know you can leave them in an instant for a better woman. Thats what gets them to stay. Knowing she can be replaced. By trying to make HER happy you showed her that you need her. That made you look weak.

[@hilld83]

Men, please consider that even though God hates divorce, He allows it because He knows some people's hearts are hardened against doing what is right. Jesus has already died for all people, but many will still reject their only salvation. Forgive your wife and do what is best for your health and sanity. Love your wife and love yourself by letting her go and giving her the divorce that she's pushing you to give her. Perhaps, by the grace of God, she will eventually repent and surrender her soul to God before she's lost for eternity. You cannot do more for your wife than what God can do for her.

[@antonioamaral7471]

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[@javieraguirre9135]

"Alphas are bullies by nature" completely wrong there, the bullies are the weakests a good alpha has leadership through consistency and empathy earning the respect and the hearts of everyone around not by a fragile imposition waiting to be destroy any minute but by empowering everyone around

[@kingpetra6886]

For a happy wife, this channel is awfully gloomy.

[@JohnDretired]

Realistic.

[@briancyers6790]

Best Channel Ever!

[@markberger5739]

😅😂😊

[@ThisTimeTheWorld]

She knows how soul sucking Modern Women are, with first view experience.

[@MayorOfBodybuildingTV]

Truth hurts

[@stevesmith1493]

Stay and pick up a mistress.

[@RaymondNelson-qc2hs]

Absolute TOOTH!

[@stevejackson8625]

The reddest of pills. So be it.