WHAT IS GOING ON IN GERMANY???

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[@alessandrobenvenuti6551]

Every country is having a serious right wing resurgence. And for right wing I don’t mean conservative, I mean those flirting with fascism.

[@JSmusiqalthinka]

I mean...I tend to think of fascism as extreme conservatism, i.e., conservatism is diet fascism, so...

[@miskatonic_alumni]

Every fascist regime has pandered to conservatives and has enjoyed conservative support. Every single one.

[@alessandrobenvenuti6551]

@@JSmusiqalthinka you would think that, but no. Fascism is not an idea, is a way of conducting yourself, the end is violence itself, but the objective and means can differ quite a lot. Italian fascism was really about fusing entrepreneurship and the state, deepening the gap, using the state as a weapon and solidifying the classes. German fascism ended up into Nazism, where there was class conflict, but the point was that some races were superior to others and those deserved to disappear or be enslaved. The Soviet Union is a fun one… Stalin Made it about state capitalism and creating a new powerful class, the corrupted burocrats. Stalin himself was very conservative and antisemitic. After that it became a repressive police state that existed for the sake of continuing to exist, until it became so rotten it collapsed, but the objective was still “preservate the revolution”. The means were violent and pretty fascistic. Fascism is fluid, it can adapt to everything. Look at Russian fascism today, the one that caused the war in Ukraine. It’s always right wing on some way or another, conservatism is a symptom, but not always the end. American fascism is really based on true conservatism, misogynist ideas, omophobia, white supremacism and ordoliberism.

[@eriksvensson6054]

Maybe there is a reason for that

[@trustyvault13canteen32]

"flirting" is a very optimistic way to put it

[@rattled6732]

As a German i can say it’s pretty bad. I have two uncles who won’t fucking shut up about the AFD

[@itsluca161]

Ich füühle das soooo

[@Feefa99]

As Czech, pls don't take our Sudetenland again

[@atmatey]

It seems ”never again” was forgotten in less than 80 years. Remarkable.

[@mjtheko]

I've got some family still over there who are AFD voters as well. It's the middle eastern immigration for them. Fell hook line and sinker for the rhetoric.

[@iana6713]

What part of "nie wieder" don't the AfD understand?

[@CassieAngelica]

The only thing the far-right has to do to get back into the legally allowed discourse in Germany is to use different symbols from the ones used many years ago and steer clear of mentioning a certain someone.

[@danielgreen7607]

We ought to call the party Adolf Fitzgerald Ditler

[@falconeshield]

​@@danielgreen7607 As you should. They're Nazi. *You should be terrified.*

[@CassieAngelica]

@@danielgreen7607 I wouldn’t oppose that.

[@jf1573]

Ironically, the AfD didn‘t even manage to do that. They bring up WW2 all the time. And the Verfassungsschutz finds forbidden symbols among their members all the time … mostly in chats, mostly in Junge Alternative (youth organization)

[@luchotenks2310]

Watch out for any eastern religious symbols being appropriated by Western European far-right political parties in the following months.

[@Hanfgurkenhasser]

Vaush (and English-speaking folk in general) trying to pronounce our ridiculous German words will never not make me grin.

[@adrunkian]

Samma wat hatsn du jejen Hanfgurken

[@_wayneman_]

Junge, sach nix gegen meine Hanfgurken oder du kassierst ne heftigere Schelle als die von Lina E. Bist eher so der Senfgurkentyp, wa?

[@matthiassmith21]

meinen Ohren tut es weh lol

[@MensHominis]

You gotta give it to him though, he’s really trying. Like how he remembered that v is (most often) pronounced like f, that made me so happy.

[@jadedtwin]

Pfft, like väusch pronounces english words correct either lol

[@no4365]

Considering one of AfD's founders left the party due to its increasing extremism says a lot really.

[@SpielkindFR]

Curiously enough, the AfD propensity to oust their leadership simply by bullying them out of the party is a terrifying similarity to how things went in the NDSAP.

[@TheEnecca]

That happend like three times right? every time it got more extrem but the voters dont care.

[@justsomeguy6336]

Well he’s just a coward then.

[@uncletyrone]

Not just him, dozens and dozens of other prominent figures as well

[@MensHominis]

It’s a recurring theme with their leaders. - Bernd Lucke fiercely defended his party against “being slandered as right-wing” … then he cried about their far-right turn and left. - Frauke Petry took over, fiercely defended her part against “being slandered as far-right” … then lost the fight against Björn Höcke’s ultra-right ‘Wing’ (literally Flügel) of the AfD and suddenly left, crying about their far-right turn. - Jörg Meuthen (I think he started as part of the Petry/Weidel/Meuthen triumpersonate) carried on, fiercely defended his party against “being slandered as far-right” while simultaneously fighting and officially abolishing the Flügel, though not managing to exclude Höcke from the party … then he admitted that the Flügel had never really ceased to exist as a network and power block and left the party, crying about their far-right turn.

[@corhydrae3238]

As a german guy with a brain and a heart: The very fact that we have a monument dedicated to the horrors of our past IS a source of my national pride. It takes courage to look at the atrocities your people have commited and say "never again". There is no reason to feel shame over what the nazis did, unless you are, well, a nazi.

[@AK-jm1sc]

When I was an exchange student in Germany during my university studies, my German economics teacher (who was about 73, but still sharp) kept referring to the era after Nazis fell as "After we were liberated from the Nazi control" and called the Nazi-times "times of Nazi occupation" essentially it was clear he saw the Nazis as an anti-German group who occupied the German lands and German people, and that the liberation was welcomed and allowed a return to proper German values. So you're right, a non-Nazi wouldn't be ashamed of the Nazi history, they would take it as a good lesson.

[@hellraiser5671]

The fact that some Germans want to remove it because they find it "shameful" really shows insecurity and inability to accept and move on from mistakes.

[@wasmachichhier1514]

​@@icecoldnut5152 are you equating his Points with lost causers ?

[@icecoldnut5152]

@@wasmachichhier1514 Not gonna lie I completely misinterpreted their comment, my apologies.

[@wasmachichhier1514]

@@icecoldnut5152 yea it can ne hard to undestand

[@YeoldRagnaris]

If you are german and encounter ppl considering voting for the AFD then just read to them their party program. Their intention to recriminilize weed, raise the retirement age to 70 and lower the age to 12 for severe prision sentencees will deter lots of ppl.

[@KeVIn-pm7pu]

I am sorry but you are delusional if you think people wont just handwave this or give you some talking points why that is actually the right thing to do.

[@fee6362]

@@KeVIn-pm7pu Actually, a lot of Germans react pretty negativ to raising the retirement age, even the right.

[@KeVIn-pm7pu]

@@fee6362 everyone does. but they dont see it as much of a problem to not vote them as "all of them do" or they "only say that because they have to" what ever that means. I certainly didnt saw it as a dealbreaker for anyone in my family or with realitves. sadly i have quiet a lot of them in my life.

[@chrissyweikoop7931]

people who vote right wing are dumb af. they don't care about any of those things as long as someone gets rid of the immigrants and queerdos.

[@KeVIn-pm7pu]

@@fee6362 Dont get me wrong i wish it was that easy. i am actually quiet frustrated a lot of them cant even accept facts that they dont agree with.

[@merlinhelena6092]

Nobody is getting rejected from art school for a while...

[@axis7879]

i wanna be an actor

[@Altorin]

People are rejected from art school every year lol

[@tobywood9156]

@@Altorin not for a while, not after last time

[@knowledgeanddefense1054]

"Yah! It's rewind time."

[@Feefa99]

Ben Shapiro is failed writer. Steve Crowder and Dave Rubin are both failed comedians. Tim Pool is failed musician. And I am sure list could be longer.

[@MrHodoAstartes]

Well, it's the 20s again. Everything's coming back into style.

[@DavidGutierrez-ed7lk]

@TheRedHand 😂

[@void-creature]

*Art deco!!!* WOOOOO!

[@frostnova8300]

Important; DO NOT VOTE ANY FAILED ARTIST INTO POWER.

[@jiado6893]

Make sure to give directions to any armed time traveler that asks for them.

[@Tacklepig]

The main AfD guy Höcke is a failed history teacher.

[@RexxyRobin]

​@@jiado6893 I'm sorry I got a D for my assignment on impressionism. I promise I just want to play with colors and have no ambition for power.

[@kylemorgan505]

@@RexxyRobin Too late... *I am in your walls*

[@luchotenks2310]

Austrian art schools lower your admission standards for world peace challenge (hopefully not impossible)

[@Feefa99]

History doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes

[@thedissidentleftist6997]

Yup. Having a large pool of conservates and an aging guard who failed to do any hard crackdowns is why.

[@Altorin]

This is not a rhyme. This is literally just the same thing a second time. "GERMANY USED TO BE GREAT! THAT PRIOR WAR REALLY MADE THE WORLD HATE GERMANY TO THE POINT THAT THEYRE TRYING TO DESTROY GERMANY! MORE POWER FOR THE FATHER LAND" it's literally the same thing

[@MilkshakeGuruTTV]

@@Altorin Sometimes it's worded as... "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! BUILD A WALL! THE DRUG DEALER MEXICANS ARE DESTORYING OUR COUNTRY! AMERICA FIRST!"

[@thedissidentleftist6997]

@@Altorin Like USA.

[@falconeshield]

Can it rhyme less

[@pi172]

I am proud to live in the city with the lowest AfD results in the whole country. As a trans person I feel safe here but I wont travel to rural eastern germany anymore. We are becoming more divided just along the lines of the USA. In addition to your main factors: MAGA and in generell the american far-right also had a huuuuge impact here and I fear the ripple effects of the USA becoming a fascist hellhole on us.

[@Alex-cq1zr]

While USA is in danger, far right's activity on USA seems to be mostly a dying scream of desperation - they know that their time is up. They don't wanna change and they don't wanna fade out of relevance, so they try any desperate measure, flailing around in panic. That's how it can be described. They are still dangerous, but it should be noted that so far, thankfully, far right seems to be heading towards being obliterated in terms of elections. That being said, idk how stuff is in Germany and such. If Germany follows USA in such stuff, then once USA far right becomes less popular, maybe German far right would follow.

[@ludovicusbathory1715]

Its why Americans who think they can just run away do not get. If America becomes fascist other nations will follow almost over night.

[@eriksvensson6054]

@@ludovicusbathory1715 Based and good

[@falconeshield]

​@@ludovicusbathory1715 Yea, DeSantis' mistake was to show his Fashy side before becoming President. Good for us but he didn't pretend to be a centrist like Berlusconi.

[@Kikasitsu]

Really? I thought it was NATO bring a Nazi org, trying to carry out the best laid plans from their Nazi origins in 1949. Oh… wait… Sorry. I meant the Red Scare propaganda of the 1920’s.😀 Isn’t it funny, that you, A TRANS WOMAN, is told to support Ukraine? (Strange how Ukraine losing is having this cratering effect on the rest of NATO countries throughout the West. Almost as though they don’t want a Multi-Polar existence or something.) Oh, fun fact: Did you know that it was The Soviet Union’s fault that East Germany failed to be as prosperous as WEST GERMANY? They built a wall to- (Wait… was that wall to keep people in… or *keep people OUT?* I wonder…)

[@Kyravexa]

The AFD is very strange. It s partly an eastern German party, but it got voters in western Germany, too. According to statisics, about two thirds of its voters claim they vote AFD because they want to "protest" against the policy of the other parties. In german, these people are called "Protestwaehler" ("protest voters"). The other third of the AFDs voters seem to be hard right wing fanatics. The largest part of voters of the AFD are men (not women) between 40 and 50 years (though younger and older men and women vote AFD too, but I `m talking about statistics.) Because of the inner-german migration from east to west, there are (in percent) more middle aged and older men in the east than in the west. This is also a reason (next to the ecomomy) for the popularity of the AFD in the east (yes, demographics matter).

[@RexxyRobin]

As a german I am kinda floored over how accurate Vaush's assessement of our situation is.

[@frausteiner8615]

Germany really is the perfect example economic failure leading to authoritarianism. Not only did this happen with the Weimar Republic, but now it's happening specifically in East Germany.

[@felicia3231]

I think its because fascism acts the same in every country and its also a repeating situation

[@dereinzigwahreRahl]

@@frausteiner8615 Nope. It's an oversimplyfication to just put this onto economics. Just look at the really poor counties in the west - they still vote less AfD. Part of it is the education in the GDR, because it was heavily ideologically biased, the people have more problems understanding the dangers of authoritarianism. Additionally the GDR failed at teaching about Nazi-Germany aswell. Everything was fascism to them anyway and also they already defeated the Nazis etc. etc. Looking at studies of the support for democracy, Germany always had a problem. I don't think the attitude of the people has actually shifted as much as voting numbers have. Which also have a multitude of reasons. And it doesn't help that there's no solid "protest" party - people still vote AfD because they wanna "stick it to the government" etc., not because they are dedicated to the right wing - yet.

[@dereinzigwahreRahl]

Yes, Im floored that he didn't totally mess up this time. Accurate isn't the word I would use when Vaush talks about other countries then US though, he just has never been good at that. And when he talks about us germans, I can clearly see that.

[@Leo-tq9ei]

@@dereinzigwahreRahl I absolutely agree, as a east German I got a little bit mad when he said that it is because "they miss authority" at least he mentioned the income disparity, but still, there is so much more behind the success of the AFD in the east.

[@FafliXx]

It is important to put this into perspective though. The next national elections are 2 years away, and in even just a few months, polling results can flip entirely. Non government parties usually do better outside of election season as well. Just half a year before the last national election, the AFD was projected to get 15-20% of votes, and they ended up with 10%, losing compared to their last result. Also, no other party is willing to work with them, so they barely hold any power on a national level.

[@falconeshield]

It doesn't matter the red alarm is sounding. I do NOT want to see WW3 in my lifetime or my grandkids, nor do I want all those lives lost in WW2 gone in vain, we seem to actually see the rubicon and it doesn't look good at all. Oh, and if we do enter WW3 it ain't the old farts that wanted it that are gonna fight in the mud

[@guntherdergarstigeganter6431]

Except that I'm not sure if we can trust our conservative friends to uphold the "we don't work with fascists"-policy, given them continuosly moving further right since Merkel is gone.

[@FafliXx]

@@guntherdergarstigeganter6431 Yeah, that is absolutely true. But their voters are mostly old and *conservative* conservative. They don't like working with new age populists, so at least for a few years it should be fine.

[@zierenbar4604]

Still they are poisoning the political discours and they already have their rhetoric inside the mainstream Parties.

[@OneEyeShadow]

I sure as fuck won't vote for any party that works with them.

[@jwomackandcheese73]

Throughout history the phrse "Germany, whata re you doing?" has never ended well.

[@dawildbear]

France sweating

[@Kikasitsu]

Ah man, and just when I finally remembered that France *was the first country* to promote Holocaust Denial in 1946. Dang. I guess learning my lessons about how France, England, and the U.S. supported in West Germany in the 1960’s, was all for nothing. Now what will I tell future generations? That the U.S. and Canada “smuggled Nazis in with the Displaced Persons Act of 1948?” Come on! We tried to fight the Communist threat during the Cold War by deporting Nazis into the Soviet countries, undermine their efforts to live in peace by terrorizing them, and dismantle the Soviet Union, and THIS is the thanks we get?! Shame.

[@blacky_Ninja]

@@dawildbear Nah, we like our french neighbours. We might come over for a visit some time again to catch up on old stories. 🙃

[@jf1573]

This time France is actually our blueprint for closeted antisemitism.

[@dawildbear]

@@blacky_Ninja that's the problem, Germany is a little too keen on France, Belgium. The Netherlands, Poland...

[@brynawaldman5790]

Fascism usually arises in times of economic hardship. We have a global elite now, sucking wealth from everyone else. It serves the 1%ers for us to fight each other, so the richest people fund nationalism & all kinds of prejudice, all over the world.

[@ludovicusbathory1715]

Lets be honest humans just want to fight and kill each other. The elites are certainly a problem but the majority of folks clearly have something wrong with them. There are three camps on this planet. 1. The elite who are always screwing things up and making bank. 2. A good number of folks who are either borderline or completely evil and want conflicts because they cant do anything else. 3. Normal people who are to lazy or to afraid to do anything which allows the 1. And 2. Camp to run wild and screw things up.

[@Preciouspink]

There is that..

[@Badbufon]

nah, it ain't only that, we honed the skill of killing things over for thousands of years. it's our thing bro

[@sniedendepoes]

Your comment is VERY antisemitic please remove it

[@Badbufon]

@@sniedendepoes ??? i guess Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are semite now?, learn how to read before jumping to concusions. please remove your comment, i found it VERY karen-like lol.

[@alivesushi8312]

Bad momment for my spotify start blasting eminem and he goes “guess who’s back” 💀

[@trustyvault13canteen32]

Its very funny to see the AfDs political talking points. Especially during/after Trumps 2020 campaign there is a 2 month-ish delay between a republican politicians speech and a AfD politicians speech.

[@KeVIn-pm7pu]

Sad but true. CSU isnt far off either.

[@IHSchwingo]

Sadly, that’s true for almost any cultural phenomenon. Imagine my surprise that we now have a German redpill community.

[@mattbattaglia4694]

it's funny bc the American right got their strategies from Germans, and now the Germans are getting their strategies from Americans lol

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

Same in most European countries. Usually takes a few months before the local far-right parties start regurgitating the newest marching orders from their American cousins like the trained parrots they are. Even when the talking points come out of the blue and are completely disjointed from the local political issues. And of course all of them are guzzling that Russian oligarch and American billionaire money. Biggest globalists I have ever seen.

[@maeschder]

It's all imported culture War bulshit

[@ivorya815]

As a certified East German (TM) zoomer I'd like to add that living here isn't like entering a Wolfenstein game. The larger cities are safe and full of nonwhite/queer people and even in mid-size towns you should be fine. DEFINITELY watch your ass in villages, but honestly that applies to all of Germany (especially Bavaria)

[@panchovan617]

Well besides maybe Jena, Erfurt, Berlin and Leipzig I never really felt that comfortable in East Germany. I am now in a village in Baden-Württemberg and travel to Bavaria a lot, and it feels more open and safe. But thats my experience

[@MensHominis]

I think small towns are very much an issue in Eastern Germany. There’s a reason why Saxony pays you a shitload extra (+1000€) if you go to its countryside for teacher traineeship. Also, there’s Dresden and most of all Chemnitz. Sure, Dresden is tolerable but damn does it own some certain inhabitants …

[@IHSchwingo]

Definitely a lot of reprobates in Bavarian villages, but it’s plenty save to visit

[@DirkLoechel]

Watch your asses in villages in every country. Every village is lovecraftian.

[@Kikasitsu]

Don’t you worry… YOU CAN THANK US later for smuggling in the Nazis, *and then deporting back in the 1960’s…* and forcing the East to build a wall- All in the name of “combating” the Communist threat!😀👍

[@Juhz0r]

Germans, if there is an angry yelly guy on a stage or behind a podium suddenly, don't support that guy.

[@scottvelez3154]

Yeah and what if he paints mid ass pictures?

[@SpielkindFR]

We been telling the right wing assholes that same thing for years and the sad truth is that you just gave a rather accurate description of most AfD personalities. To be fair, a lot of the electorate of the AfD isn't necessarily what you would call idiologically fascist and a surprising amount of germans with a recent migration background vote for them. Then take all the conspiracy theorists, retarded people and old white dudes with fat pensions and no internet connection, as well as literal monarchists. Its like you put all the completely unreasonable people in a sack. Might look like its a lot, but you can beat it with a stick and be sure to always hit someone who deserves it. Apart from a few stray representatives, all other parties refuse working with them. And while it is a damning statement about the actual status of germanies accounting of its national socialist past, I would still say that it is highly unlikely they will ever get near the government. Incidentally its success might also be the parties downfall. Attempts to prohibit the literal nazi party NPD in the past failed because of their general unimportance. As per the "Grundgesetzbuch", the equivalent of a constitution, you can't ban some tiny niché party. Currently there is an argument being made in both the press as well as academia that it would be possible to ban the AfD now. Personally I don't see it coming anytime soon, but if its current success persists I think its inevitable. I don't think that will happen though. It comprises way too many different currents at odds with each other and a large part of its electorate will die within this decade. The issue frankly will continue to exist for as long as the other established parties continue to hold on to their devastating and overall similar neoliberal stance towards the economy. Its actually kinda rich when US americans are shocked by its succes. Ideologically AfD is basically a carbon copy of the Republicans. In fact, often they just use US talking points.

[@RunawayTrain2502]

But what if he claims to be nationalistic socialist actually?

[@KeVIn-pm7pu]

Thats basicly just every politician in the afd

[@Juhz0r]

@Processing Information 👁 👁 ◾ 👄

[@Simon-tl6hz]

Similar things are unfortunately going on here in Sweden too. The far-right party SD (which used to be an open neonazi-party back when it was founded in the 90s), the "Sweden Democrats", got the second most votes in last year's election. Really scary, especially since Sweden is so often looked at as a progressive and leftist country from the outside.

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

Spain as well. Vox, the Francoist fascist party might get 15%, making them the third party. Belgium's even worse. VB, literal Nazis, might become the biggest party

[@youcancallmeneck5178]

I hope the current polling trends hold to election night of 2026 because so far it shows SD as losing voters

[@Joebob1119]

Guess Germans are getting tired of their daughters and sisters getting r*p ed by migrants

[@KenShackler]

You would have thought that Finnish people would have learned from the mistakes of Sweden, but NO. The far right party got the second most votes in our election as well. Only the traditional right wing party got more votes. Disinformation is the biggest threat to the humankind at the moment.

[@malum9478]

i mean if it makes you feel any better i don't look at any of you euros as progressive or leftist. the most socially progressive country on earth is the US by a mile, with some specific countries edging out in certain cases(spain with trans issues). ya'll have managed to gaslight us all and yourselves into buying the "we're all enlightened progressives over here" tea when in truth europe is only really progressive in having a welfare state, and even that is under attack now.

[@Zoli-7658]

Germany dont do this i was planning to move to Germany from Hungary to escape the far right

[@wanderingsword4003]

Was planning the same, but from the US.

[@MrHodoAstartes]

That's a blip, really. Really only reflects the corporate media railing against the government because they try to make people use electric cars and new heating technologies over fossil fuels. So Bild et al. are non-stop fear mongering about how that would cost you an arm and a leg to rip out your old gas heating for a heat pump. Which completely neglects that the proposed law only affects new constructions and replacements for broken systems. It *does not* force anyone to needlessly replace their heating. They're also drumming up anxieties about high inflation, while also hating on unions and particularly on strikes. Which are currently happening because some big unions have been demanding substantial raises to keep abreast of inflation. Stop me if you heard that one. Once the price shock subsides, this will absolutely go back down. Otherwise maybe a certain media corporation needs to go the way of the Reichstag...

[@scottvelez3154]

Might as well move to Norway, just a calm, peaceful country of chill, horn helmet wearing Vikings who just like to drink beer and have fun. Right? Right? Please tell me I'm right.

[@dandarr5035]

@@wanderingsword4003 seconding this As far as I'm concerened though, I'd still rather go to Germany than stay here. At least in Germany, the AfD seems to be still limited enough outside of the East that fixing the parity issue between the East and the rest of the country can hamper the efforts of AfD significantly. But in the US, the MAGA rot has set in nationwide, no matter what state you're in.

[@Zoli-7658]

@@scottvelez3154 Norway is probably too cold for me. But other than that yeah I wouldnt mind Norway, Sweden of Finland

[@feurigessiegelstuck233]

Yeah, its quite bad here. The problem is that our current center left coalition is doing very poor in keeping any of its promises because of both the geopolitical realities right now and the liberal party they had to coalition with is blocking any meaningful legislation unless they gain something from it and so there is quite alot of infighting in our government. And the opposition led by the centerright CDU, which was the former ruling party, is relentless in mocking the government for any wrongdoing although they share quite alot of the blame because of their dogshit policies during the last decade, which is furthering the distrust in our institutions. And they dont even gain something from that, because the voters turn straight to the AfD, because, who might have guessed, the CDU is still part of the establishment they are mocking... And the CDU, under their current leader Friedrich Merz, is itself adopting american style culture war vocabulary, which they have borrowed straight from the US republican party, like about a month ago, when the bavarian sister party of the CDU, the CSU, send some prominent members of their party to join in talks with Ron Desantis. So they are further poisoning the well

[@Yul_B_Awright]

exactly right.. people also fail to notice when good things are done despite the pandemic and war going on, like for example at least trying to fix our caregiver crisis, because it now is in style to ramble about the bad government without any substance

[@W4lhalla]

@@Yul_B_Awright Well bad news do sell better than good news. So media focuses way more onto bad news and either ignores or downplays any good news. Combine this with powerful people who have an agency behind those media outlets and you have a problem. Axel Springer Verlag wants to tear down the current government by any means neccesary so the CDU can govern again. If this means that AfD is on the rise, so be it. ( which is fucking dangerous )

[@psiplaysgames4178]

I frequent the german after dark beer dispensaries called "biergarten" and hold conversations with the indigenous, they can never provide a none racist reason to vote for the afd... what a shame...

[@page8301]

As a German, the rise of the AfD disgusts me.

[@Spongebrain97]

Didn't they peake in 2015 but since then have lost relevance to only certain areas like Bavaria and the east?

[@blacky_Ninja]

@@Spongebrain97 I think they‘ve had quite the bitching amongst themselves, which weakened them quite a bit, but currently they seem to be getting stronger again, for whatever bullshit reason.

[@claasmachens3858]

@@blacky_Ninja In my opinion the reason is that they "own" hatred of the greens. I belive there were polls comparing how high a margin of voters dislikes another party, with greens not liking the AFD to 92% and AFD voters not liking the greens to 77% (both the highest numbers of any party). Currently Union and FDP seem determined to talk as much shit about the greens as they can in hopes of geting votes. But those mostly go towards the AFD because the FDP and CDU are not nearly anti green enough.

[@dakunssd]

"Ich kann nicht soviel essen, wie ich kotzen möchte"

[@hurensohn7605]

I hopw they will het what they deserve some day.

[@ramursiegismundus7116]

I legit can't believe this the AFD was dying just like 3 years ago wtf is happening to my country

[@falconeshield]

What the fuck man what the fuck is going on did no one go to school what the fuck what the

[@eriksvensson6054]

based things

[@jcb5681]

Unwanted mass immigration is what's happening

[@perverse_ince]

Unironically Habeck (and Scholz)

[@SirKemzyGodle]

@@eriksvensson6054 Sure buddy. Go and try to start pointless arguments somewhere else, please.

[@claasmachens3858]

Personal opinion is that a huge part of the AFD gains in the last months comes from other parties hating on the greens. Because the afd (as the only party that doesn't belife in human made climate change) prety much owns that topic, but the CDU and FDP are desperate to get in on it. So much so that the FDP actually has designated a climate change denier as their partys lead on climate change strategy. But since both parties aren't the real climate change deniers all the controvery only helps the AFD.

[@nikotinsaure2481]

Around 4:00 : I don't like the wording. West Germany didn't do a "bad job" at integrating/helping out east Germany. Instead they outright destroyed/sold most of east Germany's economy. East Germany's economy was what I guess people mean by state-owned capitalism. It had VEBs ("Volkseigene Betriebe", I would translate it to 'companies owned by the people') which belonged to the government and for which the West German government had no use, so they privatised/sold them. East Germans, coming from a failing "Socialist" state, hadn't much money to buy the factories they worked in, so most stuff went to either West German or foreign investors. So most East Germans today work for West German companies, creating like a draining effect. (I guess there are infinitely more details to this, but I'm not too interested. Hey, I'm just an antifa trans woman, living in East Germany, born after the reunification. I guess the boomers here kind of have a point that they have been left behind and never had a chance under the new system. Doesn't excuse them voting for literal nazis "in protest" tho.) Another phenomenon is that there are a lot of neo nazis from West Germany that move to East Germany. The weak infrastructure and lower resulting prices for land make it easier for them to "take over" small communities.

[@SpielkindFR]

Dear americans: This is how you looked to us for well over a decade.

[@tatersalad76]

It feels like every European company takes turns guzzling the stupid juice, and the US takes a chug each time someone else does

[@smallfox8623]

Europe has always been a complete mess the only thing that ever changed that was the ECSC and then the EU. Europe is unusually peaceful right now.

[@TheEsotericLeftist]

The US is co-partners with the Euros in serving, distributing, and chugging industrial amounts of koolaid

[@FuNLpMeineURL]

Björn is actually pronounced Bernd in Germany

[@Sombriage]

I blame America falling so easily to Donald Trump. Him being placated constantly gave other terrible leaders the confidence to try and gain more power.

[@BBJBS]

"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?"

[@tdl1315]

I am not ready for this sequel 💀

[@grmpf]

The fact that, in the thumbnail, the "yes" isn't coming out of Germany's "mouth", especially because that's exactly the location of the worst region in this context, is bothering me slightly.

[@jacobcurley4742]

An ascendant far-right in the context of a remilitarizing Germany asserting it’s role in European security? What could possibly go wrong?

[@olfrud]

coming from austria next to germany I can tell you that the completely mismanaged migration „crisis“ plays a big part into that. The sad thing though is that the far right will never solve these issues, but they are the only ones who address them vocally.

[@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213]

Nur weil wer sagt, dass die Hüte brennt, hat derjenige nicht das Recht Benzin draufzukippen und zu sagen, dass es "die Anderen" waren, du Dodl.

[@olfrud]

@@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213 lol, dass du gleich beleidigst, sagt schon genug über dich aus. wenn die die parteien am linken rand die probleme mit der migration konstruktiv und nicht mit verblödeten populismus ala "es gibt eh kein problem, wir schaffen das, die leute, die da kommen sind alle eine super berreicherung für unsere kultur etc.", dann wäre unserer gesellschaft viel geholfen. die schlagen aber alle genau in die selbe kerbe wie die rechten, nur halt anders idiotisch. btw. in Österreich schauts derzeit so aus, als würde die FPÖ, die weietaus radikaler ist als die AFD, bald den Kanzler stellen. Glaubst du etwa ich freu mich darüber?

[@mingusbingus6746]

When has going right ever actually fixed a nation? It always leads to something bad.

[@Silverhawk100]

There's some shaky arguments to say that Reaganism/Thatcherism broke the economic malaise in the West in the 70s. But if you want some iron-clad examples, Konrad Adenauer, decidedly conservative if a European flavor of conservative, rebuilt West Germany after WWII. There is some criticism to lay on him, though. His staunch anticommunism bears some of the responsibility for dividing Germany in the first place. You can't really call him a Conservative in the modern sense of the word, but Napoleon III was a revanchist who wanted to return France to the glory days of the height of the Monarchy and populist highs of his uncle. By most metrics, he succeeded. France would not have been able to compete in WWI without him. You might be able to argue Deng Xiaoping was further to the right than Mao was and his economic reforms are responsible for the economic might China has today. The reforms are certainly conservative in terms of opening the country up to private enterprise and military modernization. But I can also see the argument that Mao was further right than Deng was and this was more of a cautious step to the left.

[@MensHominis]

@@Silverhawk100 Adenauer was a conservative but his policy surely didn’t mean a right-wing shift after the Nazi regime. 😅 I think that’s op’s whole point: _shifting right_ has never helped anyone.

[@mingusbingus6746]

@@Silverhawk100 right. But that was comparatively a huge shift left from the Nazis.

[@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213]

"But muh race and muh people and ancesturds hurrrdurrr!!!!"

[@sniedendepoes]

Far right grew because the left let in millions of rapists. I used to be left before having to flee the brown infested cities. Nobody is born racist, one simply learns survival skills.

[@justmillenialthings]

I've only visited Germany, but my thought is that this has a lot to do with immigration. They've immigrated more people than almost any other country, and a lot of those people, especially first generation, don't align with their values at all and don't respect the laws / social norms of Germany. Not that that's necessarily okay but I really think the immigration really bothers people who have a strong German identity that they feel is being washed out. I think that kind of explains why it's more popular in the East as well, where there is probably more immigration.

[@KelmutHool]

there isn't more immigration in the east. Quite the opposite, immigration is more than 2 times higher in the west. The average migrant population in the east is ~6%, the only outlier is Berlin with ~20%. Nationwide average is ~13%. But you are right, fear of immigrants is one of the main reasons why people vote far right, even though it doesn't affect their lives at all. They are just white, proud and stupid.

[@TheEsotericLeftist]

I think you're right, having had a lot of central European exchange student friends in high school. This culture clash has proved an issue. They're retarded for going rightoid over it ofc.

[@troll2161]

The east has seen significantly less immigration. Let me explain. Roughly thirty percent of the people living in West Germany have some sort of migrant background (meaning either they themselves or their parents were born outside of Germany to non-German parents). Again, THIRTY percent. That‘s 20 million people in the western part alone (remember Germany only has a population of roughly 83 million). In cities in West Germany, this percentage often hits something between 35 and 40 percent. The east didn’t see nearly as much immigration. Like not even close. In most counties the percentage of people with foreign roots mostly fluctuates somewhere around 5 percent outside of urban areas and is still much lower (compared to the west) in said urban areas.

[@Kuudere_Fanboy]

I cannot understand why people still vote for the AFD. Despite all of the lies they have told and the bad stuff they have done.

[@dehistoriapisciumfish7639]

It’s the same with Trump and the republican party. They are pretty open with being corrupt evil liars but people still swallow it for some reason

[@chewchewtrain]

The same reason anyone votes for right wing parties anywhere, ignorance.

[@NMahon]

Because they hate brown people

[@-morrow]

tribalism

[@justsomeguy6336]

@@chewchewtrain bad take

[@mikkosimonen]

Germany’s squiggly lines are far superior to the various rectangles of America.

[@HenrythePaleoGuy]

Been following these polling trends for a while, and it's pretty frightening at how much they've climbed. Keep safe and aware guys.

[@cr33p3rhd6]

There has been a court judgement about the use of „fascist“ to describe Björn Höcke, which concluded that it’s a completely legal to call him that based on the things you can infer her believes

[@Jaden-Ring]

History being cyclical at a much faster rate than expected

[@Ali-cya]

Event cycles at least for civilizations are oddly within 80-120 years, so I'd say it's right on cue.

[@Badbufon]

the next one will be a doozie

[@mikeroesoft9849]

I (as a german am a bit suprised how well vaush is informed about politics here in germany)

[@Vickyeverythingelsewastaken]

He got crash courses from Three Arrows and AdamSomething on stream. Our boy is learning.

[@mememachine6022]

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!

[@werderlebenslang4576]

As bad as the AfD is America is way closer to fascism than germany right now. All the other parties do not cooperate with the Afd and the german supreme court is filled with libs.

[@falconeshield]

Never again my ass

[@nopizzawithoutpineapple]

Somebody invade us again pls

[@nopizzawithoutpineapple]

​@@falconeshield I think we're the ones who are gonna have to make sure of that one way or another

[@Spielmaldingens]

the way things are going I'm more afraid the US will be glad to help Germany out this time around

[@Finnboy-ml5jv]

The first line of the video is Vaush travelling back in time into the Weimar Republic.

[@Monk9619]

nobody tell Vaush about austria he will loose his mind

[@Jaden-Ring]

We must tell vaush about Austria at once! (Whats happening in Austria?)

[@Monk9619]

@@Jaden-Ring the far right Party has about 27% in surveys, which makes them the strongest party if we had elections at the moment

[@Jaden-Ring]

@@Monk9619:(

[@KeVIn-pm7pu]

​@@Monk9619got some failed artists that seek a career here in Germany?

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@Monk9619 Vaush might actually have a soft spot for the party leader though, they both love horses.

[@soulslvr9562]

As a wise green man once said.... "Oh No Bro"

[@heilokcd2703]

Me, a german, who knows several cops who are certainly not part of a neonazi militia. Cops in Germany are actually pretty nice to most people, don't exactly know the statistics on the cop problems with people that look like refugees tho, ould be different with them.

[@MrHodoAstartes]

Prolly depends on where you are and which cop you got. Saxony got prolly more rightoods than Düsseldorf.

[@nopizzawithoutpineapple]

I'm a goth and most cops treat me with noticeable distrust at least

[@mustafak.2101]

ACAB

[@Yul_B_Awright]

@@nopizzawithoutpineapple if I was a cop I wouldn't trust you after reading your profilename. Then I would proceed to get a pizza without pineapple and throw it away and cry since I am a type 1 diabetic.

[@damjanp7920]

@@Yul_B_Awright diabeetus

[@normtrooper4392]

Time is a flat circle

[@AtPlume]

_I know we often say that third time’s the charm but.. come on…_ Jokes aside. It feels like it’s a problem everywhere in Europe. And around the world in general, the left is getting weaker, and the far right it is getting stronger. Worryingly so, in some countries. Like mine, France, where the far right is basically at creeping really close to power right now. Our current government, not content with pissing everyone off in the country, keeps pointing the fingers at the far left and ignoring the rise of the Far Right because they’re too buddy buddy to do so. Our next presidential election here, will most likely be decisive for the future of our country, probably more than any other one since the end of the Second World War. I am worried, to say the least.

[@Silverhawk100]

Should we be expecting a Sixth Republic any time soon?

[@dehistoriapisciumfish7639]

Could it be that during the cold war the soviets funded a lot of left wing groups everywhere making the left stronger and modern Russia funds the far right? I don’t know. But it’s at least in modern Russias interest to destroy western democracy from the inside (not making a comparison with 70s left wing parties that were actually good guys and modern far right by the way, just food for thought)

[@AtPlume]

@@Silverhawk100 God I fucking wish. Our President has way too much power currently. But if the far right passes… yeah. Good luck with that.

[@MensHominis]

I’ve just come to the conclusion that Enlightenment never really came to fruition and that, maybe even by nature instead of nurture, many people (+/-50%?) will always opt for totalitarianism if the times are right. We haven’t abolished monarchy long enough to be sure but we can already observe that times aren’t automatically improving in the long run (cf. trans rights for example).

[@stardust3176]

My question is why? Is it because it’s easier to just hate what you don’t understand and to let yourself be swayed by an attractive strongman while simultaneously justifying the pain you cause with a higher power? And people wonder why escapism is so attractive.

[@8ahau279]

It's insane how far the political discourse has shifted to the right in my country lately.

[@Timberwolftrass]

hey Vaush, didn't you say a few videos ago that you don't respect europeans? so why start caring now? anyways, in order for the AfD to be able to do anything, they would have to form a coalition with another party, one single party simply can't rule anymore... and the thing is: nobody, absolutely nobody, wants to work with the AfD. nobody. and while all the other parties have disagreements, they all agree on one thing, which is "fuck the AfD". if anything, this could get the other parties to work together more closely, ironically enough. as for the whole thing about german cops being part of a neo-nazi militia: that is incorrect and considering your comment from a few videos ago, i am not surprised that you didn't do your diligent research on that topic.

[@SuperAsefasef]

Poland, and France: *sweating nervously*

[@thegreatBarbossa]

love how nobody ever mentions that hitler was austrian and not german, it means we've successfully pushed the blame off to them.

[@kameradin8964]

I mean, Hitler considered himself German, and at the time many, many, Austrians did as well.

[@sebe2255]

@@kameradin8964 They are still German, the BRD isn’t the only German country

[@steirerbua5322]

@@sebe2255 don't say that unless you specifically want to piss us Austrians off.

[@sebe2255]

@@steirerbua5322 They are culturally a German state. The BRD doesn’t have the monopoly on what is German just because it is the largest of the three

[@steirerbua5322]

@@sebe2255 I am completely fine with the BRD having a monopoly on being German. No Austrian wants to be called German. German culture is really fractured and Austria has a lot of Balkan and eastern Europe influence. That's like saying Ireland, the US or Australia are English because they speak English.

[@sunlightwarrior4893]

Finally some good news , nature is healing

[@samiamrg7]

iirc, Berlin, despite being the Capital of Germany, does not house the entire Federal government of Germany. This means the city doesn’t benefit from the prestige and influence of being the capital quite as much as other cities like DC, London, or Paris do. This is largely a result of the partition and later reunification of Germany creating multiple centers of political power that have not totally faded. The country is also a federal republic, so there are also regional and local governments all over the place.

[@Ryukuro]

Legacy of when Germany was a cartographers nightmare in the 18th century i guess.

[@mr.purple7816]

"Germans, what are you doing" Words said before disaster strikes.

[@KungKras]

One thing that people don't talk enough about is that after Russia turned facist. A lot of facism keeps popping up around the world instead of communism. Hmmm, I wonder why that is.... We need a new Red Scare but directed at facism. You can quote me on that.

[@knowledgeanddefense1054]

"Yah! It's rewind time."

[@MrHodoAstartes]

One big factor in East Germany is that it never experienced the major immigration waves the West did. Which makes xenophobia far more plausible. Much easier to fear people who aren't your neighbors. Also the East has been drained of most educated youth for a long time, seeing them move to where jobs, high culture and wealth are. For a while land in eastern Brandenburg has been so cheap, Polish families moved in. As did some weirdo cults that needed a place for a commune. Conversely, West Germany has become a cultural cauldron where people from across Europe and the Middle East have moved for opportunities from farm hand to politician. My own hometown is a locus of the Kurdish diaspora. From Turkish nationals coming as guest workers in the 60s to recent yazidi refugees. Which occasionally leads to misgivings when Muslim Kurds find the Yazidi day drinking and grilling pork during Ramadan. Which is on purpose, of course. Celebrating the freedom of religion and general safety there. The owner of the local kebab shop recently built a nice big house for his sons. A good thing, too. The empty lot was pretty unsightly.

[@immortalituss]

it also helps those immigrant people less likely to vote afD

[@sebe2255]

@@immortalituss Exactly, people always point to those maps that show regions with more immigrants vote less for anti immigration parties like it is some sort of proof for cultures getting along. But in reality the descendants of immigrants who make up huge parts of the electorates in certain regions aren’t going to vore for anti immigration parties lol

[@void-creature]

One small correction, it's *"Bernd* Höcke", not "Björn Höcke"

[@Woopwoop65]

Vaush: Germany, what are you doing? Me, a German: Migrating to a warm, Mediterranean island 6 months ago.

[@eoinmcginley2823]

Vaushites in Germany: "Vote CDU to prevent fascism!"

[@cooky2991]

My thought as a German on German national pride is that a specific song has given the best explanation of how I feel with it "Ob ich stolz bin ein Deutscher zu sein? Ich weiß nicht mal was so ne Frage soll. Es geht um aller Willen in mein' Kopf nicht rein, stolz auf einen Zufall zu sein." Which means: "Am I proud to be German? I don't even know what that question means. To me it doesn't make sense to be proud of a coincidence" AFD people are wild to me honestly, especially younger ones, they really are being mislead when it comes to what would be best for them...

[@donnydonadio1185]

We need some more segments with Three Arrows and/or Adam Something.

[@comrademakno]

Something I noticed with the poll is that it only surveys 1,300 ppl that is such a small amount of ppl I question how realistic the number is!

[@HunterDrone12]

Germany : you fuckers talk about WW3 and not mention us! Three times the charm baby!

[@samiamrg7]

You know, they have a point about being less “ashamed” about Germany’s past, but just repeating fascist rhetoric won’t do it. They need to become something so good that it eclipses the past and gives Germans something they can really be proud of. Be the opposite of fascists, basically.

[@Tacklepig]

No, they don't have a point. Nothing can or should ever overshadow the shame that was the nazis.

[@willguggn2]

The far right in Germany position themselves as the opposite of today's alleged fascists by claiming that centre-left parties in Germany are the actual fascists.

[@19Szabolcs91]

@@Tacklepig This is a really dumbass attitude based on collective guilt and inherited guilt, both of which should be antithetical to progressive values.

[@saudade7842]

Europe doing as Europe does

[@An262.]

Yeah, it's extremely worrisome just how many fascist views the AfD has and the fact that it is still allowed and not seen as "verfassungsfeindlich" (dangerous for democracy) blows my mind. I do not understand how it hasn't been banned yet and i am worried for our future...

[@RealmRabbit]

There's like a map of all the big business HQs in Germany and if you go look at them they're basically like... Almost ALL in West Germany and East Germany has like... A couple or so... It basically still hasn't recovered to this day...

[@JoeMama-im3ek]

How many times do we need to teach you this lesson, Krauts?

[@nopizzawithoutpineapple]

Invade us

[@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei]

Really too bad, I was so ready for the big plot twist of the century when Germany would finally return the favor and this time liberate the US from its fascist government. Well... what is the country with the weakest far-right and least problems with anti-LGBTQ and racist movements in the moment? Are the Netherlands okay? Their Party for Freedom wants to abolish windmills because that's evil activist stuff, I'm pretty sure that will not work in a country famous for its windmills.

[@DieFliegeinderSuppe]

Trump teaches our simpletons to embrace the Right, great lesson thanks a lot yankee

[@nopizzawithoutpineapple]

@@DieFliegeinderSuppe yeah it's pathetic how they always copy the american right with a 1-2 year delay

[@DieFliegeinderSuppe]

@Liberty Prime You dont understand, Trump turned our fencesitters and nonvoters rightwing. They vote AfD now, because its more sexy to them than tradcon CDU or the opposition parties. These people are not far right themself, thats what the polls tell us. Our history works in the opposite way, it usually tends to steer people away from fascist ideology, because all Germans learn in school how horrible it was. The situation would be far worse without the influence of our domestic legacy.

[@Wonzling0815]

Interestingly, the eastern German states also have a big toxic masculinity problem. The GDR had always had a system that provided for working women and gave them a good education. When the iron curtain fell, all the smart and qualified young women went west or abroad, leaving behind lots of directionless and humiliated young men.

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

Acknowledgment isn't shame. I wish more French people acknowledged our atrocities from the relatively recent past in the same way German people acknowledge the Holocaust.

[@thezilch7227]

Some of this is maybe economically disadvantaged people, but don’t underestimate the problem of boomers being radicalized on social media. Anecdotal, but most people I know in Germany over 50/60 can’t seem to stop regurgitating Q talking points.

[@horrendousaurus810]

people in 1930 be like:

[@ohteddyboyo]

As a trans person in Germany this trend scares the shit out of me... 😢

[@theresaurus9820]

Omg, boo hoo. You’re safe. This isn’t Desantis’ Florida.

[@raptorrise8537]

@@theresaurus9820 shut up, we shouldn't ignore this thread. Not only the AfD, also the CDU is getting more and more anti-LGBTQIA+ 5 to 10 years ago everyone was laughing at the anti-LGBTQIA+ takes in the USA as well. Now see what is going on in this country, not only in Florida.

[@justsomeguy6336]

Good

[@Yul_B_Awright]

@@theresaurus9820 if the afd would win I doubt he would be save. Their rhetoric makes clear what they would like to do if they were in power.

[@theresaurus9820]

@@Yul_B_Awright and what are the odds of them winning? Sure, they might’ve polled almost 20% in this Sunday survey, but the actual elections are what count at the end of the day. Also, Germany has enough institutional stability to stem almost any anti-democratic takeover.

[@justadudewholikestotalk]

If hitler came back now, germans would follow him. The movie “look who’s back” wasn’t a comedy, it was a documentary

[@FlorianXXV]

One major reason why East germany is so politically extreme, is that the reunification was fucked up, even today they are economically worse off than the west. This doesn't justify Voting for the AfD but the other parties should really start recoginizing that fact to prevent them rising any further.

[@KarlMarkyMarxx]

I THOUGHT THEY LEARNED THEIR LESSON. WTF.

[@Joebob1119]

Guess Germans are getting tired of their daughters and sisters getting r*p ed by migrants

[@Blooperfan94]

Maaan, we're doing our best over here in west Germany :(

[@greycoloris7665]

25% of germans have been contrarian populists switching between what counts as protest parties for a while now. The (very slowly, compared to almost anywhere else except japan) rising discontent with the popular parties (moderate SocDems, the bad kind in the SPD on one, conservatives in the fold of the "christian democrats" on the other side) has lead to more people going for the alternatives. In the west of it, this meant people moving from the SocDems to (nominally) more progressive parties, like the greens (who have maintained their unprecedented popularity as well) - and conservatives going either for the far-right AfD or becoming "desillusioned" and not voting. Or dying. Bc they are mostly old. In the east though, people still think the SocDems are Communist Authoritarians (they are not even pro-union, they are basically neolibs with red scarfs) and the new sh*t that will change everything is the traditional 3rd party alternative: The "Liberal Democrats" - who are in reality econ-right-wing market extremists. The LibDems (FDP) usualy pull slightly above 5%, rarely 10%. Last election they made significantly more, around 15% - essentially as the eastern moderate protest vote. And no - economics explains the general discontent, both in the west and the east - the east deliberatly right-winging their response more intensly is pretty much exclusively a late consequence of Soviet cutural Authoritarianism and political repression. Didnt happen in the west the same way, even in poor communities (tho there was also _some_ correlation). They can not believe in a vision from the left being extended in good faith, prefering anything else - even if it should be clear what the actualy liberating option would be by now. Ofc the LibDems disappointed everyone though and made things worse. They constantly signaled right, obstructed even the most basic gains from the current socdem-green-LibDem administration Scholz I and legitimized the very talking points the AfD ultimately has the stronger pitch on - and so lost many of those protest people to the further right. On the plus side: So far it is most likely predominantly a rightwing-to-rightwing consolidation movement - a radicalisation possibly, but not a surge in general popularity. These people were always inclined to put their eggs in some basket they thought was rw populism anyway - they tried to already in the last eleection, they were just to uninformed to know that the LibDems were really as pro-establishment as it gets in the german system rn and thought they were it (in spite of them trying the same and being just as disappointed by the LibDems from '08-'12 after the financial crisis). But basically still just 25% contrarian populists - just the staunchly rw maority of that group isn't going to be as split as last time, benefitting their influcne in a hypothetical election scenario along the lines of these numbers immensly - but also not to a point more threatening than what has happend so far. At least until now _*knock on wood *_ . Also, the (ineffective) Left Party would drop out of the house entirely becasue they need at least 5%, which they are barely towing - benefting everybody else, but mostly the right.

[@someone6124]

German here. I have family thats from the East. My fathers family fled the soviet army in WW2 twice from Pommerania. My father "moved" in 1984 from East Germany to the West. If you speak with the people you of course get a diverse mix of oppinions and ideologies. Actually in the Eastern parts of Germany the left(ist) movements are also strong (ANTIFA for example). My impression is that the reason for the political developmnent with the AfD we see has less to do with the Soviet legacy but more with the troubles concerning the reunification. Many people feel exploited and misused, they feel left behind by the West. To this day when i visit my grandma i see derelict houses, smashed in windows etc. Populists have a pretty good feeding ground when they argue that job loss, low vages, low retirement funds etc are a cause by the massive western influence after the reunification. And they have a point in my view. Now i despise AfD, have always voted Left for the Bundestag and Green for local parliaments, but it also has to be acnowledged that in the wake of the reunification the West did a massive wealth, production, property and so on grab. In Germany i think there are only a handfull of East Germans in CEO positions, you find very little Eastern politicians in the Bundestag, they are seen by many West Germans as weird and other. So no wonder they feel alienated and are looking for people who unapologetically claim to stand for them. Now what AfD voters miss is that one, fascists are dangerous bedfellows and two they dont really care for the needs of the so called underclass. Of course there are also many plain nazis and fascists around these parts too. I once went to a guy to buy a used motorcycle and in his garage he had WW2 Africa Corps memorabilia, like weapons, motorcycles, posters and so on. He also had larger than life paintings like you find on the covers of "Der Landser" (a nazi magazin) on his walls. So what im trying to say is yes, there is a soviet legacy and yes many people say "it was better in the good old days" but there are also other motives. Look at other former soviet countries and many of them despise their past overlords and have become stable democracies (Esonia, Latvia etc.).

[@BlackReshiram]

wow, as someone who lives in germany, time to get even more anxiety! and also to look up when the next fucking elections are

[@MrHodoAstartes]

2.5 years. Till then the war will be over and inflation will have subsided.

[@nopizzawithoutpineapple]

I'd be ready to fucking fight if they came into power

[@19Szabolcs91]

19% is nothing, and none of the other parties want to cooperate with them.

[@meis18mofo77]

as a german: Help, I'm trans, where is antifa when you need them?

[@MrHodoAstartes]

Right now? Fighting cops because they won't let them bash the fash because apparently those are "people" with "rights", too. And while cops often have some pretty shite opinions, they are very necessary to dig up Reichsbürger loons.

[@nopizzawithoutpineapple]

Get in contact with your local or nearby alternative and punk scene. I've been to a few small local punk shows and already met some good people

[@Silverhawk100]

The good news is that you have the home chapter of Antifa. The bad news is it's a mostly unserious leftist org that is more focused on state imperialism these days than busting fascists.

[@dehistoriapisciumfish7639]

I wish antifa was actually as active as the right wing seems to believe

[@nopizzawithoutpineapple]

@@dehistoriapisciumfish7639 stop wishing, we gotta get our asses going. We can all start with just networking

[@samve_000]

The 2 biggest parties where I live (Flanders) are both far-right flemish nationalists. They want to split Belgium in two in order to become the biggest party in my country.

[@Leadlight280]

Imagine being a Nazi from "Flanders" lmao

[@samve_000]

@@Leadlight280 Yeah, the most fucked up part is that everyone seems to ignore their dark past where they openly worked together with the Nazi party.

[@Itory1337]

I am in fear here in Germany. I am considering to leave rhe ountry. But dunno where to go.

[@godleftelmo7710]

AFD is so based

[@SolideSchlange]

Vaush sollte mal seinen Kanal löschen

[@yournamehere100]

Honestly I've given up on voting in Germany. Literally all the options suck and no matter who gets into parliament they just fuck around for four years and fail to achieve anything because they can't agree on anything

[@panchovan617]

I would say it is higher in Eastern Germany, but there are some supporters here in the South as well.

[@fireofhislove3395]

Aliens crashed in Las Vegas.

[@lolplzde5037]

who would have thought that when normal parties ignore peoples demands, people will instead vote for other parties. duh

[@spaceelfdimp4852]

Bruh Germany really we WERE SO CLOSE TO GREATNESS

[@spaceelfdimp4852]

Then the nazis fucked it again

[@axelotl86]

Well at least it’s not half the country like in the USA.

[@LolixLP]

Look at the sample sizes!!! 1001 respondents is way below one person per postcode, let alone town or village. Also in Germany polling is near exclusively done via telephone (mostly landline, which young or liberal ppl here dont have). Usually polling numbers in germany are done better and more representative. For some reason we have been getting worse and worse polling when it comes to federal politics and privately owned media is eating it up. They are trying to break anyone left of center from sheer pessimism and it shows.

[@grennoin3108]

Finding the ripped-off head of a teddy on the doorstep of your local queer centre in a town in Germany was exactly as fun as you can imagine, especially with this as the background. And no, this is west Germany, Lower-Saxony to be more precise.