What is Going on with Mazda? ("New" 2025 CX-70, Sales Records & Price Hikes)

Mazda makes some head-scratching decisions. However, their sales haven't been hurt on the surface. Today, we'll talk about the 2025 CX-70 and some of their other silly moves in a lighthearted discussion!
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00:00 Intro
00:20 CX-70 Pros and Cons
03:35 CX-90 Success?
04:37 CX-50 & CX-5 Rivalry
05:55 CX-30 & Mazda3 Price Increase
06:42 Final Thoughts

[@genzigzag]

I am so glad you're covering the debacle of the CX-70 launch. Not sure why Mazda didn't offer a 3rd row delete in the CX-90. True there would have been costs associated with certification of the CX-60, however I would argue that model would have grown Mazda's sales into an new segment.

[@Realistick]

Agreed, it would have definitely brought a strong fight to the new Crown Signia, Passport and Subaru Outback! It makes me curious if this means the CX-5 will move up a little to fill that market? But that's me being optimistic.

[@user-qu8pd6fu7g]

We put off a new vehicle purchase to see what the outcome of the cx70 would be... was hoping for something like the cx60... thoroughly disappointed...

[@genzigzag]

​@@user-qu8pd6fu7g I'm in the same situation, not everyone has room for a 200" vehicle in their garage, nor does everyone want a vehicle that large. I'm waiting to see the Crown Signia in person and if that doesn't cut it, I'll wait for the CX-5 redesign.

[@stachowi]

if i wanted something the size of CX-90 i would have bought a CX-90... i need something mid-sized. Totally dropped the ball.

[@stachowi]

@@user-qu8pd6fu7g EXACTLY what i was doing... now i have to look elsewhere.

[@desertmodern7638]

The CX-70 is a weird move, but perfect for me. I love the size of the CX-90, but never use a third row.

[@GoFast58]

And in my opinion the Mazda cx-70 looks better (sportier).

[@Thisishard2333]

CX90 has another useless 3rd row. If you put the 3rd row down, the middle row still doesn’t have a great amount of room. The Cx70 supposedly has a huge 2nd row.

[@henryrestrepo8214]

I was expecting something similar to the CX 60 we see overseas. I was disappointed

[@sleepcycle8032]

I think the most frustrating part from my pov is that I was interested in the cx-70 and the fact that they're trying to portray the cx70 as a new vehicle is ridiculous.

[@Unchainedmaple888]

Seriously, I was super interested in a wider CX-60 but this is just a slap in the face from Mazda

[@davidvanaert6934]

Exactly. I held off making a buying decision because I was looking forward to a 2 row that's slightly smaller. The answer: The 2025 Toyota Crown Signia

[@84848AR]

Same I have a cx5 and was so excited for the cx 70 but thinking it was going to be more similar to the cx60 not the cx90 because if I wanted a bigger suv I would have just gone for that

[@aperson5062]

I must admit, I was hoping for a CX-60 based car for the CX-70 or just give us the CX-60.

[@dystopia-usa]

Love Mazda, but hate how they (& most everyone else) are seemingly focusing on the larger-size vehicle market to the detriment of nice smaller vehicle offerings (at least here in the USA & NA). They need to get to work on releasing a good CX-30 refresh/update or new-gen version.

[@digitaldoc100]

Thanks for the analysis, and hope that Mazda is watching and takes notes. We really just needed the CX60, and they can drop the CX70 and CX50, but understand that this is not likely to happen. They really should have just focused the efforts on a CX5 update that did not significantly increase the size that is already just about right.

[@Realistick]

I couldn’t agree more.

[@LSR-YT21]

I wish they brought us a slightly larger CX-60 like we originally heard… and not another of the same car but nonetheless this probably cost them tons and tons of money to develop this new platform and new drivetrain so I understand them trying to save a bit of money. Harder to understand is the name… just keep it the CX-90 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@alb0zfinest]

They could've saved that money by not introducing the cx-30 and cx-50. The redesign of the mazda 3 was also dumb. If you're going to do a redesign and "reintroduction," and then it looks 95% the same while also having the option to redesign the mazda 6, its like wtf?

[@LSR-YT21]

@@alb0zfinestI don’t know if I agree. Mazda 3 has been the platform they test all the new tech which is perfect. It is way more solid before it comes to the other cars. CX-30 has been a massive success for Mazda. CX-50 as weird as it is… is still a great car. Chevy has like 4 or 5 cars in the exact same segment but it’s weird for Mazda to have 2? Mazda is a small brand so they are trying to capture as many people as possible. I think Mazda has been doing a great job. Now in terms of the CX-70 I personally feel it should’ve just been called CX-90. Instead giving us the CX-60 from Europe and using that as the CX-5 replacement

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

@@alb0zfinest The CX-30 and CX-50 are amazing vehicles -- and they aren't digging into the sales of other Mazda vehicles (with the possible exception of the CX-30 vs. Mazda 3). Still, Mazda sales have increased quite a bit. 2024 is poised to be the best year that Mazda has had in about three decades. Mazda is building vehicles on the same platforms to save costs and for reliability purposes. However, they've shifted to a more premium design. I do think that Mazda will build a new Mazda 6. In fact, according to some rumors, I think that it will be revealed with the updated/redesigned Mazda CX-5 next year (as it will likely be built on the same platform). In other words, the new Mazda 6 will be eyeing the entry-luxury segment currently filled by Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Infinity and Genesis. However, it will start at better pricing for lower trims but offer amazing value in the mid-trims. I don't expect Mazda to "fix" something that isn't broken. The CX-5 is their bread-and-butter. They will not tweak that design too much too quickly. They will keep the overall feel and size of that vehicle but provide a strong refresh. I even think that they will keep the Skyactiv G but add a mild hybrid and PHEG as trim options. If a new Mazda 6 is built on that platform, I suspect that it will just be to the CX-5 what the Mazda 3 is to the CX-30. It will be nearly identical but in the entry-luxury car form factor.

[@hskrgrad]

I don’t get the “saving money” argument that people are throwing around. Yes they would have had the CX-60 retested and certified for the US but they would have had no development costs because they could have literally given us the exact same vehicle with a CX-70 badge. We all know the UK is more restrictive on safety and emissions so whatever they have going on would surely fly here. Maybe the addition of some side reflectors? In the grand scheme of things that testing can’t be that much and it would have opened Mazda up to a whole new segment of buyers. The ONLY reason I can see them making this move is they are planning to trim production costs by producing the 90 and 70 on the same assembly line and one week they are snapping on the front fascia and trims for the 90 and the next week they are snapping on the fascia and trims for the 70. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@LSR-YT21]

@@hskrgrad well you kinda answered your own question. They are saving money by literally not doing anything. Pricing has come out and it literally costs the same if not more to buy a CX-70. Bringing a different car would’ve cost them more than just releasing the exact same car. Zero testing required although I’m sure they still will get it tested. Same drivetrains though. Idk all seems kinda odd to me. My thought on this is that they plan to bring us another car like a Mazda 60 (Mazda 6 replacement) which would sort of fill that gap a bit. I personally think killing off the CX-5 and giving us the CX-60 in its place would be way better. Also it’s possible the CX-60 is simply too expensive to succeed here.

[@craigo2142]

I think Mazda hurt itself with all the hype. CX-90 delete 3rd row option done. Wish they had spent that time and money on hybrid (doesn't Toyota own a chunk of Mazda and would share platform/drivetrains), touch screens and refresh of CX5. Not everyone wants a huge suv, cuv.

[@FeLiX13sLaVe]

CX-50 hybrid arrives this summer with the power train out of RAV4 hybrid. Next CX-5 (expect it to be called CX-40) arrives in 12 to 18 months with ICE, HEV, and PHEV options. No precise details yet, but people are expecting that will also have a Toyota hybrid power train.

[@Rockybalboa541]

Make the cx 70 a cx 90 with a more aggressive roof line and slightly smaller (see atlas cross sport) and remove the old cx 5 and replace it with the cx 60. Boom. You’re welcome Mazda

[@nostyle126]

Great video. Other channels are avoiding rhe awkward relationship between the CX-90 and CX-70.

[@reyakisakura3971]

That’s crazy. The entry price of the Cx-70 is the same price as the CX-90 Turbo Preferred ..

[@GoFast58]

No they are all the same prices.

[@willmeier8559]

Lol at that jawline joke. Great writing!

[@dioralcide8490]

Great honest video

[@obhatti]

Great video! Even though I'm not looking for a vehicle in that segment right now, I agree that the CX-70 seems an odd decision. They should have made it slightly smaller than the CX-90 and I think it would have worked better, even if it was still bigger than a CX-60. And a hybrid CX-50 and/or CX-5 cannot come out soon enough!!!

[@stachowi]

great comment agree 100%

[@asog88]

I personally was waiting for the slightly wider cx60. I don’t want a car this large so now I have to wait. Here’s to hoping they come out with a new Mazda 6

[@ssr1680]

They need to bring the CX 60 over

[@mrsolotraveler8808]

Great information, but something I have noticed recently! I traveled to Chicago in December and to Salt Lake City a few weeks ago, both times I noticed Hertz rental lot were full of CX-90. Has Mazda always been heavy into fleet sales? Could fleet sales be what is driving the sale success, or are people really buying CX-90? Has anyone else noticed more Mazda vehicles on rental lots?

[@Realistick]

A good point, I don't know how many cars fleet services would pick up and if it would be a number high enough to skew numbers. A sale is a sale nonetheless so we'll see if the numbers hold up for 24, January was pretty good for them!

[@Unchainedmaple888]

"All time sales records" yet they do something as cheap and heinous as their CX-70 launch...sigh...they should've just brought over the CX-60 instead. I hate that Mazda wastes time and resources on dumb vehicles like the MX-30 and CX-70 when instead they could play catch-up on hybrids and making a CX-30 hybrid and CX-50 hybrid available already. I love Mazda but sometimes their business strats baffle me.

[@koichi.k1161]

Speaking of Audi, it would be great if you'd review a few more. The S8 would be great before it disappears.

[@yourfriendlycpa1595]

The S8 is a special car, hope the V8 remains in the next gen.

[@sachinnair91]

Audi and other such expensive unreliable German cars are boring to me. I’d much rather watch a review of the 2024 Mirage

[@MyMovie5858]

Mazda should have just bring over the CX60 to replace the aging CX5, and add a 3rd row delete option for CX90. Down the road, maybe add a 4 cylinder version of the I6 and RWD models to expand the CX60/90 price range.

[@DeadAir21]

That would make zero sense. The cx5 is Mazda best seller because it’s moderately 2:24 priced and it’s fuel efficient. The CX60 is a compact SUV and no else in that segment is using a 6 cylinder anymore because the name of the game in that class is fuel efficiency. Mazda would lose sales because most people shopping in that segment do not care about having a powerful engine like the inline 6

[@asog88]

They should just bring the cx60 over.

[@MyMovie5858]

@@DeadAir21 currently, the CX5 and CX50 occupy the same market space, and that is not a good strategy for a small car manufacturer such as Mazda. For the next generation CX5, I can see Mazda continues to try to move up market and capture the $35k-$50k compact segment, and the CX60 has the technology and performance to fit the bill. You mentioned fuel economy. If you haven't noticed, the I6 in CX90 is actually more fuel efficient than the one in CX5 turbo, and it also has the PHEV option.

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

I think that the redesigned CX-5 will look and feel a lot like the current CX-5 -- but slightly more refined. This is Mazda's bread-and-butter. They won't diverge too far from what sales indicate that people want. I do think that it will offer lower trims that are near the current price point but upper trims that are undoubtedly meant to compete with most entry-luxury segment offerings.

[@billyrock8305]

Mazda on fire right now! 🔥 CX70 😱

[@seanc6092]

I find it very interesting that in the US, there are so many different trim levels. Here in Canada, for example CX-30, we've got GX ( base trim ) GS ( mid trim ) GT ( fully loaded ) & special edition SUNA, which I believe is the carbon edition in the US.

[@jn9604]

I really don't understand why anyone is having a problem with this. The primary thing I didn't like about the CX90 was the 3rd row seat that adds weight and wastes space. I don't need a 3rd row (I understand some people do need a third row) and don't want one folded down permanently like it is in my current Toyota Highlander. The added storage under the rear floor is a big bonus. I don't think it is a bad decision at all. I had no plans to buy a CX90 and will take a long look at the CX70. Plus they had their best sales year ever in 2023 so why is anyone criticizing what they are doing. They clearly have a good idea of who their market is and really understand that they are a niche brand so why not make niche vehicles. The biggest issue I have, and one I can't get an answer to is whether the two clutch packs in the CX90/CX70 transmission are covered under the warranty. In my experience these kinds of clutch packs are considered a wear item and not covered even though they are in an auto. I called a couple dealers here in Canada and can't get a definitive answer. If they are't covered under the 5 year unlimited km powertrain warranty in Canada I wouldn't touch one.

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

Very good video! I bought a new Mazda last year. It was such a surprise and amazing purchase. I really enjoy driving it -- something that I haven't said about a vehicle in a long time. Yes, there have been competent vehicles that I've driven and owned. However, I really like driving my new Mazda. I feel the value every time I get into it. Prior to the purchase, I was fairly certain that I would buy a Toyota, Honda or Subaru (or, possibly, a Ford Bronco Sport). I don't feel brand loyalty -- and Mazda wasn't really on my radar. I was disappointed with the lack of power in most of these and the quality (driving and interiors) was truly lacking in most options. Plus, most of them were kind of...well...boring. I was amazed by the enthusiasm from recent Mazda owners. I attributed it to that brand loyalty that I spoke of before. However, my research was much more convincing than the personal testimonials about how much people liked their Mazda vehicles. Ultimately, I was able to get a lot of HP and torque for the money -- along with a premium driving experience and a very good standard AWD within a vehicle that boasted the top safety ratings! Not bad, Mazda. This is pretty amazing for a vehicle that I wasn't even considering from the get-go. As for the CX-70: I agree with your assessment. I think that Mazda is trying to move into the entry-level luxury segment. The CX-70 is simply a CX-90 without a third row (and a few other "sporty-looking" changes). If Mazda had brought the CX-60 over to North America, it would have come at a considerable cost that would have driven up the price of the vehicle. Besides, I believe that the upcoming CX-5 redesign will sit in that market spot. I think that the media and enthusiasts probably drove up the anticipation and expectations for the CX-70. In retrospect, Mazda was kind of low-key about it. However, they didn't temper expectations about something "new" to the North American market. Consequently, it was met by some disappointment. Personally, I think that Mazda should have just said at the launch of the CX-90 that they were bringing a two-row on the same platform (called the CX-70). It would have helped keep expectations at bay. After all, the CX-70 is a very good vehicle and offers something that many families have been looking for (i.e., entry-level luxury with a lot of room in the rear).

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

Also: The "more saturated than Subway locations" is a bonus laugh.

[@markcoopers1930]

Easy way to win the 2 row cargo space wars: use a 3 row 😂. As others are saying its confusing. The CX-90 has a strong range of offerings, so the CX-70 won't be bad either. And Mazda is usually hounded by Pilot stans about cargo space. But they could have simplified efforts by putting out an instructional video about folding down the third row. Its hard to believe the CX-70 will be discounted enough or any more lightweight (quick and/or efficient) to make a case.

[@Realistick]

Mazda thinks like no other manufacturer, for better or worse!

[@stephenross9892]

Any reviews of the Hyundai Tuscan? I don't see one.

[@Realistick]

Just reviewed the sister sportage but I have yet to get my hands on a Tuscon

[@Unchainedmaple888]

Mazda thinks that CX-90 customers are too stupid to fold down the third row seats lol Mazda can still fix this debacle by bringing over the CX-60. It'll sell, as all well designed SUVs do these days

[@TheSemiArtisticPuma]

Ngl i kinda like having all that space in the back, two row full size seems great if you know you wont need a third row but you may have to carry a bunch

[@aaravnovids2017]

The CX-50 and CX-5 are kinda like Bronco Sport vs Escape and Trax vs Equinox

[@rick8125]

If you get any info on an updated CX5, please share ASAP

[@baldheadlogic]

Considering how large this CX-70 is, I am curious to know when the CX-5 will be redesigned. I don’t want a 2 row suv as large as the CX-90.

[@Seriously140]

I was eagerly awaiting the CX-70, fully expecting to get the European CX-60 here in United States. I feel like Mazda lied to us about the CX-70. Also, why was the launch of it delayed for so long? Maybe Mazda initially planned to bring the 60 here, and then switched plans to bring the one we ended up getting. It really pisses me off and makes me feel they lied to us. I don't want the CX-70 because of the beluga whale humpback rear end. It makes the car ugly. Mazda, you really screwed up on this. You don't have a car of the right size in the heart of the market.

[@sass1420]

I was expecting the CX-70 to be about 194" or so. That splits the difference between the CX-50 (186") and the CX-90 (201"). It is hard to say if the CX-70 is too big when you have the grand Cherokee at 196", The Toyota Highlander at 195" (Grand Highlander is just over 200"). I think if the CX-90 was a larger (as in critics would stop complaining about tight third rown, lack of storage w 3 rd row up) crossover by maybe 9 or 10" as one would kind of expect since it is more sloped and not as upright as others, like the Pilot or the Grand Highlander or even the grand cherokee. I don't know the dimensions on the grand Cherokee L, but I am sure it is about 205" or longer. The problem with the CX-60 is it is about the same size as the CX-50, which with the lower output inline 6 and RWD biased AWD would be an easier differentiation from the CX-5

[@raymondgraber9629]

Exactly what I was thinking. Now they announced the Cx-80 in Europe at 196" with a shorter wheelbase and 4" narrower. A wider version of that would have made a better Cx-70 and if 2 rows plenty of cargo space. If the 70 flops maybe we'll get the 80 in North America.

[@basanireddy8621]

Hi All, Good Day. Can anyone suggest best SUVs in and around $35k. Thank you in advance.

[@classiccorvettesmusclecars5846]

I loved my six and my current 22CX9, both built in Japan. The 50 is built in Alabama and has many quality issues. The 3 sedan is the best looking small car in the $25k price range. A proven reliable engine and no CVT!

[@golpherguy6388]

2 row CX-90 is just what I want 👍🏻

[@moedollars7050]

As a cx50 turbo owner who upgraded from a Mazda 3 HB, I absolutely love my ride. They killled it with the design imo. Only have two issues with it.. 1 is the gas mileage BUT I wouldn't have it any other way because the turbo is awesome l, 2 is the wireless phone charger should have been in the front vice under the arm console because my huge S24 Ultra does not fit.. I think if Mazda would have offered a cx50 hybrid or a sport focused Cx50 they could have easily replaced the cx-5. Makes no sense to keep it in the line up. As for the cx70, what a blunder. They should have just kept the cx90 badge and offered a new trim option for just 2 rows... we really didn't need cx70, which is the same size as a cx90. Mazda needs to get their lineup and trims in order. Ita getting kind of messy now.

[@tomdrummy4984]

No, it makes no sense. It’s a cx90 with two rows, not a cx70…….really stupid

[@sk-un5jq]

That's a ginormous 2 row SUV relative to the CRV! CX-70 is 201" long x 77" wide vs. 185" long x 74" wide for the CRV. The 2025 CX-5 redesign needs to increase in size to be at least as roomy as the RAV4 in the rear seats.

[@seansean681]

CX-70 will be competing against the two row midsize Passport, not the compact CR-V.

[@sentryion3106]

@@seansean681 The passport is also 12 inches shorter. Yes mazda we want a 5 seat cx90, but we didn't mean it literally...

[@johnmichael326]

I love mazda, but way past my price line. I usually wait a couple years and but it used

[@robertmurdock7530]

I was seriously looking at a CX-90 Turbo SPP, but would unlikely have ever used the 3rd row. Currently, I have a Murano Platinum, which is only a few inches shorter than the CX-90, so no big deal for me in the size area. Because of the tiny console depth, I was really looking forward to the CX-70, but with captain's chairs in the 2nd row, which would give me a nice deep console for storage in the 2nd row. Alas, the captain's chairs are not available in the CX-70. (Zonk). I love the blackout trim on the CX-70, and the new red leather upholstery is gorgeous, but alas, paint in Machine Grey Metallic is not available! (Zonk). The sub-cargo floor storage bins are attractive, as well as Alexa voice recognition. What's a guy to do? I wont buy black, or white (paint or interior). Geez Mazda, what were you thinking?? Ok, CX-70 with Soul Crystal Red with tan interior, or a CX-90 (Which I can't get with the red interior) in Machine Grey Metallic? Decisions, decisions! 😱

[@ohcanadaeh]

Mazda is missing a mid sized SUV with CX70 being the same as CX90. My guess is Mazda will have to bring the CX60 to North America to fill that void. I will wait.

[@realityosei3689]

i love the cx 60 unfortunately is not really popular and doesnt get mentioned most...is really a nice suv

[@ScottXC91]

It’s hilarious how many people are grasping at straws to justify this thing’s existence. The best justification that you can come up with in this video is that Mazda themselves made the actual CX-90 trim levels so complicated and convoluted, that the only solution was to create an even more confusing and convoluted entirely new model that’s actually just the same car.

[@kitsunepalmer5129]

I have a hard time understanding why people think having a large cargo area is lazy. I find the shoehorned third row to be more offensive than a larger trunk space. Less people are having kids and they still want roomy cabins, leg room for their friends and cargo space for the road trip with their dog. You are able to have more options as a buyer with the model difference that really simplifies the buying process. Do you want three rows? No? Ok here are 3-5 trim levels for you to look at.

[@Realistick]

I think it’s a bit lazy to not redesign the cargo hold to be larger, but I think the larger issue was the marketing. I think people would have been much happier if mazda said “hey, we have a 2 row cx-90 on the way, it’ll be called the cx-90 sport (or whatever)”

[@stevedawson3863]

I was told by my local Mazda dealer that they are trying to reach a goal of 50 K for the average sale of a vehicle!!

[@AJ-bh7vm]

I am glad Mazda gave option to people who want a bigger size SUV, but don't need the third row of seats. However, I think they should have called the CX-70, CX-90 sports. I think they would have had a better response from consumers if they just called it a CX-90 sports by removing the third row seats. I don't know whose idea was to have the same size/practically same vehicle as the CX-90, but called it a different name.

[@user-ik7qy6eb2r]

i wish the CX-70's powertrain in CX-50's body but this isn't gonna happen 🫠

[@hyperreal3094]

@hyperreal3094 0 seconds ago Cx-30 is one of the best in its class for the money. For example, if you want all-wheel-drive with their competitors such as Volkswagen, Toyota, Honda, and Kia, you’re gonna be spending at least 2000 or more. Also, the CX 30 comes with most of the standard safety features (lan assist, Blindspot assist, intelligent, cruising, and brake assist) while the other brands force you to buy packages with gimmicky features to get the same safety features.

[@tommy13965]

all Mazda had to do was make the cx70 the same size as the crv and rav 4 it is apparent that the cx5 and cx50 are a tad smaller than those 2. They figured everyone was complaining about cargo space so they went ahead and gave us another behemoth cx90 twin 😂. I personally don’t need the space so the oversea cx60 with the inline 6 was perfect for my needs.

[@GoFast58]

I think the Mazda cx-5 redesign might be a bit bigger therefore they kept the cx-70 size the same.

[@differencemaker242]

Guys, can you blame them? Take a look at a 90s Cherokee. Well youll notice that the latest one is like TWICE THE SIZE OF THAT ONE. If you want a smsller 6 banger Mazda wait for the new 2025 CX5.

[@joshuagraham3222]

We have a CX9. We have another year on the lease. I had high hopes for the CX70, thinking it was going to be the European CX60 but it’s just rebadged CX90. Might be looking elsewhere when the lease is up.

[@bogdanconstantin2312]

It is clear that CX 70 will be the same size as CX 90. In this situation, the only 2 reasons why the CX 70 can stand out as a distinct/separate model are: sportier handling than the CX 90 and a lower price. Can Mazda do at least these?

[@Stinger430]

I'll buy a new Mazda when the new 6 sedan/wagon is launched.

[@sentiencepsn2714]

One suggestion. The difference in audio quality between the live shots and voice overs is way too jarring and distracting. Would recommend using the same equipment in studio, as you do in field.

[@gmfc1]

The thing nobody recognizes is that cars sold in the US are limited by CAFE standards. This is why we won't get the CX60 here. We might however get an all road wagon.

[@Avtr44]

Why can the us get the CX 60? I love all Australian videos from CX 60 2025

[@HRCfan17]

I like the 70. Not everyone needs a third row but would like the cargo space and storage where the third row would be. I for one will be buying one when it comes out.

[@Realistick]

It’s a niche car but it should be appreciated, though I should note, from the photos, the floor isn’t any lower! It’s just a little more flat and there’s a ton of under floor storage now too.

[@HRCfan17]

@@Realistick I wouldn’t expect it to be any lower because there is storage under the flooring. I personally believe this will sell well and may even possibly outsell the 90. Just my opinion though.

[@Realistick]

@@HRCfan17 I personally think the CX-90 will handily outsell it but I think you could be right if this ends up being a large untapped niche. It doesn’t really have any competition like it so it’s hard to say what will happen!

[@HRCfan17]

@@Realistick possibly but I think most car companies just put third rows in anything they can believing that everyone wants it and anyone who doesn’t can just fold down the seat. Thats companies mentality because it’s cheaper for them. There are a collective of people who understand folding down the rear seat isn’t the same as what the 70 is. Mazda understands that and will reap the rewards of giving that collective what they have been searching for. When third rows started it was an option to get with or without until the companies realized they could pick one because it’s cheaper for them than offering different configurations. I will be giving Mazda my hard earned cash for the 70.

[@potentatewags]

Same HRC. Just waiting to see pricing.

[@GoFast58]

I wish it was smaller, but it's still an awesome vehicle in my opinion! Feel like this will sell very well.

[@TheSergio1021]

They should put this engine into a CX-50

[@donato777]

Mazda is pricing the CX-70 the same as the CX-90! What are they thinking? I was considering the CX-70 as a replacement for my Nissan Murano; not with this pricing.

[@joecovey2235]

I've been looking forward to the CX70 for a long time, ever since I first heard it was coming. A more premium two row, mid size sporty crossover is what i expected. Instead we got a CX90 minus the rear seat. It's at least 10 inches too long and the prices are the same as the CX90. It makes absolutely no sense to me. Maybe someone at Mazda can explain the business case to me.

[@KXKKX]

First thing I did when I bought my 2016 Tahoe was to take out and store the third row of seats. By removing them, instead of just folding them down, you get a lot more cargo room in the back and get rid of over a hundred pounds of weight. I might be a small segment of the market, but I there is at least a niche of folks who want a large SUV that only has two rows.

[@anotheran]

Their product planners are pretty horrible. If the rumored cx70 (wider cx60) came out it would’ve put cx5, cx50, cx70 all in the same category. They should’ve delayed the cx70 to kill off the cx50. Cx50 just doesn’t sell well enough to warrant keeping.

[@markcoopers1930]

The CX-50 is brand new and it's built here, and is about to offer a hybrid variant. If anything they'd have pulled the trigger and cut back the CX-5 availability here in the US. The expectation was that the CX-70 would be sized in between the compact CX-5 and 3 row CX-90, as a mid-size 2 row with decent room for 5 people and stuff. And for enthusiasts the hope was that size wheelbase would be used for a new Mazda6.

[@anotheran]

​​​@@markcoopers1930for the second half of 2023 in the US, when shipments of cx90 became regular, sales of cx90 exceeded the cx50. The cx5 outsells the cx50 at 3 to 1. Unless cx50 profit is 3 to 1 of a cx5, there's not much business sense to keep the cx50

[@FeLiX13sLaVe]

CX-50's lower numbers have largely been due to production issues at the Alabama plant. Mazda / Toyota are still struggling to hire the number of workers required to bring the plant up to full capacity of 150,000 CX-50 per year. CX-50 and CX-5 are both critical to Mazda's goal of 500,000 vehicles sold in North America each year. Sales of CX-50 have consistently trended upwards since release in April of 2021. This January of 24, Mazda had the best-ever sales month of CX-50 with around 5,700 units moved. If they can maintain this rate throughout the remainder of the year, they can hit 70,000 units of CX-50.

[@mountainhobo]

"Foot longer than Honda Passport" - Wouldn't the 2024 Honda Pilot be a better comparison? Because in that case, the 2025 Mazda CX-70 is only 1 inch longer than the Pilot. Accounting for bumper differences, they are the same.

[@Realistick]

That's the problem I was highlighting, it's a two row suv that's as long, and heavier, than one of the most versatile crossovers you can buy.

[@valdiswallace830]

We wanted the Cx-60 that would have been a good replacement for the Cx-5

[@twillias4714]

Mazda is redesigning the CX-5 in the next year and expect it to have a hybrid option when it arrives and to be a little bigger and pricier.

[@Realistick]

After the CX-70s confusing approach, it makes me wonder if the CX-5 will become the CX-60!

[@StephenGomez21]

This is the same approach honda took with the pilot and the passport. So what's the big deal ? This is way better than the passport.

[@JeffBaker-ph6yj]

I was hoping that the 70 had a non turboed straight 6 engine. Well stop hoping it ain't going to happen

[@erickonassis6310]

I like it, its not different from the 90, lol but I still like it

[@3698s]

Considering a pre-owned CX 5 or CX 9 one or two years from now. There are a lot of CX 5 coming off lease. Also, there are a number of first generation CX 5 in my area with appropriate mileage or lower. I hope that as Mazda continues to grow, they will not screw things up. A used Mazda if properly maintained or a certified one is a better value whether new or used than many other vehicles. GM has problems with its turbo charged 4 cylinders, Ford has many issues & Honda's quality is declining, Mazda continues to be reliable, and they can go 200,000 miles.

[@georgeg.7124]

I don't care for cars that drop huge tablet like screens on the dash and I def would take an analog instrument cluster over an lcd screen. Nice review.

[@Chris.laughton]

"Off-road trims to convince us we're adventurous." I feel attacked. Accurately, but still.

[@Realistick]

No offense intended but I apologize for any emotional distress I may have caused😰

[@BlackstarSI]

Awesome video, man! I’m starting to love Mazda more and more everyday but I have to admit, the CX-70 did throw me off a bit since it so closely resembles the CX-90. Great vehicle nonetheless

[@Gregory-Masovutch]

Unless it has a huge open sunroof and a 6 speed gearbox, junk it. Third rows are a waste of time and money since you’re cramped in either no room left for any storage.

[@Realistick]

That argument could maybe apply to a Mitsubishi outlander, not a car where you can fit adults in each row. The cargo dimensions for the cx-70 are similar to the cx-90 btw, it’s mostly an advantage in underfloor storage. Not that it’ll be a bad car, it’ll be great but make no mistake, mazda wasn’t trying to make a departure from the cx-90

[@alexmassengale433]

Mazda could be a world beater if they only understood that what holds them back is that they perpetually lag the competition in practicality and for wagons that makes a huge deal. A CX-5, for instance has 29 cubic feet of cargo space. A CRV is at 39.3 and a Rav4 is at 37.6. The CX90 not only has the worst in class third row but has only 75 maximum cubic feet of cargo space behind the front seats (which is comparable to a much smaller car like a CRV). The Pilot is at 87. The Grand Highlander at 97. I really don't understand how they haven't gotten the message yet that people want practical.

[@liamhiggins2940]

Agree 100%. Mazda 6 owner here. Really wanted the CX-50 to be our family runabout. But it was too cramped for our needs. Bought a CR-V, but would have happily traded it for a CX-70 if it had similar dimensions, and not a 2-row version of the CX-90 boat.

[@rlsedition]

Mazda just released CX-70 pricing and the base model is $3k more than the base CX-90. How does that make sense?

[@Realistick]

I think it’s because they don’t offer as stripped down of a cx-70? Trim for trim, I believe they’re the same price, which would make sense since it’s also just a CX-90 with a bench seat missing!

[@rlsedition]

@@Realistick If the third seat is missing the price should decrease! Mazda is disappointing many prospective buyers with this charade of a CX-70. We expected something like the Euro CX-60, which is smaller and less expensive than the CX-90.

[@raymondgraber9629]

Cheaper trims in the fall. Same prices trim for trim.

[@rlsedition]

@@raymondgraber9629 "Same price" between CX-70 and CX-90 still makes no sense and Mazda will pay the price for promising one thing and delivering another.

[@Diego-oy6en]

Every time i see the CX-50 I wish i had test driven it haha love my CX-5 but it's a little dated

[@heartsdeprived]

I test drove both, and the interior of the CX50 felt SO cheap. I’m going to get a CX5

[@eleanormassaro5195]

I love my CX50!😁

[@md14web]

The CX5 is their best car... I wish Mazda can bring CX-60 to USA.

[@TexasHarleyBoy65]

I'm going to stick to the tried and true CX 9.

[@dougmanck4149]

After 5 Mazdas I'll be sadly looking elsewhere.

[@pauls055]

Mazda missed on the CX-70. If bringing the CX-60 wasn’t an option then they should have evolved the CX-9, less the third row, into the CX-70.

[@japaneselover377]

Can't wait 2 days away from declined all rides period.❤😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jcshanahan1158]

Looking at a Dealer website, seems the cx-70’s are all in that 55-59G range. Seems way over priced to me, especially with the crappy infotainment.

[@mklphoto]

Bring back the 4WD MPV.

[@crawfordjason]

I blame automotive news outlet websites like Car and Driver for fostering incorrect expectations regarding the design of the CX-70, suggesting it would be a version of the CX-60. This is why I avoid engaging in complete speculation; it's a waste of everyone's time. Similarly, the posts in my news feed featuring artist's renderings of upcoming cars or redesigns by individuals unaffiliated with car companies are purely speculative and pointless.

[@Realistick]

People always speculate before a release but I do agree, it's gone pretty far, especially with the renderings. Though Mazda could have VERY easily told us that their upcoming 2 row suv was a 2 row variant of the CX-90. No other car to my knowledge has ever made a 2 row version of a 3 row car with an entirely different nameplate so it was pretty obvious that people would assume a new car was on the way.

[@crawfordjason]

I'm not denying that Mazda really messed up this model launch. It should've just been a CX-90 Sport or something along those lines. The only kind of similar thing I can think of is all the badge engineering of the past, like the Honda Passport/Isuzu Rodeo, Mazda Navajo/Ford Explorer, and Acura SLX/Isuzu Trooper, but that’s not really the same thing.

[@Userxxx840]

I think Mazda is basically like the artisan bread of all of the SUV’s. It’s an esoteric brand. Whether it’s a good thing or not depends on who you ask.

[@MM-d289]

I HATE three row SUVs. I have a 2007 Toyota Rav4 Ltd, which is very roomy in the second row with a large cargo area. I can’t find anything comparable that I can afford. I like the Mazda CX-5, but it is just too small inside.

[@Realistick]

Maybe the new Honda CR-V? It's not cheap but they handle well and come with a giant backseat and good quality!

[@foodlaw5778]

What are you talking about? We nearly bought a CX 90 but chose to wait for the CX 70 because it is perfect for our needs. Always, non car makes judge those who know what they are doing.

[@Realistick]

I said it’s a niche car, you’re the niche.

[@user-nr2ch9pp2g]

The should have a 6 cyl without the turbo.

[@pummppkinn]

I love my CX-50, but Mazda has been making some decisions that make zero sense...

[@davidvanaert6934]

Lamest 'new' car launch EVER. How is this even sold as a new car model? It shares the exactly the same dimensions, chassis, powertrain and interior design as the CX-90. This car should just be an option for those buying a CX-90. I was hoping for a modern version of the CX-7 or a North American version of the CX-60. This was a terrible move for Mazda.

[@timothyjarvis4208]

Excuse me? The Mazda3 sedan isn't best in class? . Apparently you never seen one or drove one, as nothing else in the compact class is remotely comparable especially at the price.

[@Realistick]

You’re taking that out of context, I said it’s not an objective best in class kind of car. For most people in the compact segment, they care more about price, versatility, visibility and rough road comfort. If you wanted the most premium car for the money, it’s a different story. There’s a reason why they don’t sell many of them, even though they are still awesome cars!

[@84848AR]

Um no cus I wanted a cx60 for us if I wanted a cx90 then I would have just gotten that idk this is a miss for mazda not cool

[@aquariusstar4676]

They had years to get the the CX-60 approved in North America😒

[@Anhedonis]

Personally, I would have preferred the CX-60.

[@bradh6185]

CX90=Pilot=Telluride=Palisade. CX70=Passport=Sorento=Santa Fe. I don't understand the confusion.

[@Realistick]

Because the CX-70 is also larger than the Telluride, Pilot and Palisade, costs more than those cars, and intends to compete with other 2 row mainstream suvs (the ones you mentioned and more). It seems like it is trying to carve out its own niche, we will see how that goes here shortly!

[@johnaquino5055]

cx 30 great car