What is KDSS, how do I know if I have KDSS, and where are the KDSS valves?

[@OverlandPNW]

Excellent video. Lot's of people have questions about KDSS.

[@ExitOffroad]

Glad it was helpful!

[@hant9779]

very good Informative video . I've seen people got scammed with $2000 kdss on their quote but there actulally isn't. Now people know where to check for it

[@ExitOffroad]

Thanks!! Yeah, knowledge is everything!!

[@terryyouth]

nicely explained. I also like how you said - shoot wider angle so that one can understand the location. Else others i have seen just show the location close up

[@ExitOffroad]

Thanks for watching! I definitely want this info to be as helpful as possible

[@furrsync4522]

Thank you for the vid! Dealership couldn't even answer any of my questions about the KDSS system or if I even had it on my vehicle.

[@ExitOffroad]

Glad I could help!

[@terryyouth]

yes- nowadays they expect the customers to know all. Sometimes they just say dont know to escape the question all together mostly because the car does not have the particular feature

[@Ralphy20000000000011]

Brilliant and informative video Mate!

[@ExitOffroad]

Glad it helped!!

[@gulammohiddin5747]

Those are some beefy tires.. The truck looks amazing with the lift.

[@ExitOffroad]

Thanks man!!

[@dunnoyolo2238]

Very helpful

[@Merc350]

Thank you for the great info. It would also help if you used a stick to point at the parts for the beginners like me. Thanks.

[@cruzinthruspace]

Kdss system is great when it works. Another guy made a video where it only activates on turns. Plus repairs are scary expensive and lifts can affect your ride differently. Im getting a 4Runner without kdss to avoid any problems. And why dont the pro models have it if its so great? Cost?$ i don't buy it. It's mostly for high speed off-road not for crawling

[@dragonblue5]

Cool found KDSS same location on a Gx460

[@ExitOffroad]

Glad it was helpful. Same platform and parts under those as the 5th gen 4runner

[@tomaszrubaj8143]

Best video out there in regards to 4runner KDSS. I see in instructions “dont start or operate vehicle with shutter valves open”. What would happen if someone did start the engine? I had a shop replace LCA after collision and I ended up with 1/2” lean on driver side. Thinking they may have started the car with valves open. Can I recalibrate the lean myself? (All stock suspension) Thanks in advance

[@ExitOffroad]

It could possibly blow out the valves as they aren't seated properly when loose and then oil everywhere and a $2-3k job at the dealership to get it bled and working again

[@abouttime5000]

My Lexus GX460 just had the infamous kdss light show on the display panel. Vehicle has 50k kilometres on it and has never been off road. Toyota dealer just quoted me $7,100 to replace the system. Smells of over pricing and scam. Toyota should ashamed to have this frail system on their vehicles. A supreme design flaw.

[@BenjieTradesFX]

Lexus Gx460 says KDSS Low pressure after working on the suspension. Could you please show how to fill and bleed the Kdss system.

[@ExitOffroad]

I've never done that sorry. I believe it can only be done at a dealership.

[@BenjieTradesFX]

@@ExitOffroad alright .thanks. But any way to top up the Fluid and which type ?

[@kellstat]

Solid, broad yet specific KDSS video. Do you know any known specific fix to these 200's having stuck valves?

[@ExitOffroad]

There's no magic solution that I'm aware of. Once they get stripped, it's almost game over

[@nicolatesla2315]

Liked and subscribed. A lot of good info here

[@ExitOffroad]

Thanks!!

[@Philipostal]

Thanks for the awesome video! I have a KDSS 4runner myself. Whenever you lifted the vehicle, did it hurt the articulation? Also, what do you think of the KDSS spacers and KDSS specific rear sway bars? There really isn't much good info floating around here about the systems in the US.

[@ExitOffroad]

Thanks Luke!! I now sell the Treaty Oak Offroad KDSS spacers as I've seen no negative effects of running them. You can get some decent articulation with the system in stock form and longer shocks, but you'd get better travel with less sway bar resistance by adding the spacers. I don't have any experience with the KDSS-specific sway bars as of yet though.

[@Philipostal]

@@ExitOffroad thanks for the reply! I meant to say KDSS specific panhard bars. There are some panhard bars on the market with notches in them to help clear the rear KDSS arms once you lift the vehicle.

[@ExitOffroad]

Yeah, I've seen them online but aren't sold on the idea. I just haven't seen them in person

[@Peersy_23]

Great explanation and tips. You sound very Australian, I can't figure it out haha. Cheers Cobber!

[@ExitOffroad]

Thanks man. Was born and raised in Australia but have lived in the US for a long time now

[@elmarsupial6483]

Due to rust my kdss died, I'm aware it is very expensive to repair. Can I replace the away bar piston for a fixed link to convert the standard kdss sway bar into a regular sway bar?

[@ExitOffroad]

Technically you could but there is not a bolt on solution. You would have to fabricate it. Some are welding in a regular sway bar setup instead.

[@e5toro7008]

How do you fix a lean after a suspension lift has already been installed?? My vehicle sits higher on the driver side so I'm certain the shop didn't loosen the valves before they installed my suspension or tighten them when they were done. I'm positive they never touched my KDSS system. Now I have this annoying lean that I need to resolve.

[@ExitOffroad]

Just open the valves on level ground, then shake the vehicle left to right a bunch then tighten them up again. If that doesn't work, hand the suspension in the air with the values open, put it on the ground, then close them.

[@e5toro7008]

@@ExitOffroad when you say hang the suspension do you mean all 4 corners or just the drivers side? Also, do I open the valves first and then lift? Or do I lift first and then open the valves?

[@ExitOffroad]

Have the vehicle in the air on Jack stands so the suspension hangs, all 4 tires hanging. Valves can be opened before or after it goes in the air, doesn't matter

[@e5toro7008]

@@ExitOffroad I'll give it a try. Thanks.

[@XXRAWIRONXX]

@@e5toro7008 Did it resolve your lean?

[@jqentertainment6966]

Great, now my wife can get mad at me for messing with her car

[@ExitOffroad]

That's what wives do best!!

[@rodrigonetnet]

Hola mi LC j150 tiene KDSS pero está inclinado para el lado Pasajero. Que se debe hacer?

[@boblong6759]

What bumper is that. Thats exactly what I've been looking for.

[@ExitOffroad]

That's a Shrockworks. They went out of business a few years ago and also ripped off a lot of people in the process from what I heard. Luckily that bumper was bought back in 2014 long before they had problems

[@ltatjsallday8709]

So KDSS is given to random 4runners regardless of model 🤦

[@ExitOffroad]

I don't believe any SR5 models have it, but otherwise it does seem a bit random

[@cruzinthruspace]

And it's not even on the pro models

[@chrisdarrenchristopher873]

how to setting this KDSS? mine look not functional at all.

[@kibenicholas]

Like you lossen the two bolts on valve block before you lift vehicle or after you lift the vehicle ? When working on KDSS system

[@ExitOffroad]

Before

[@zhouyuan781]

Hi, May I know how many inches you had lifted up the 4runner? and which lift kit you had using on it. Thank You

[@ExitOffroad]

This is a Dobinsons MRA kit with 3" up front and 2" in the rear

[@zhouyuan781]

@@ExitOffroad Thank You for your information ... May I know why you lifted up the front one inch more than the rear?

[@ExitOffroad]

To remove a little bit of rake from front to rear, leveling it out a little bit

[@mrblunt6160]

​@ExitOffroad does it affect the car?

[@ExitOffroad]

Not really. But if I towed often or carried a lot of weight then keeping factory rake would be more ideal

[@wealthyperson3108]

Can't understand though why it has been developing lean after 5 years, although there are no codes set, no damages no leaks to cylinders, nothing. And it does lean. Stealership once did maintenance on this system and they told me there there was air - of course its an utter bullshit, just because otherwise pressure wouldn't be sufficient enough and this would set off system to produce malfunction code. Toyota should've done a homework upon the maintenance procedures

[@ExitOffroad]

It definitely sucks to have any problems with the KDSS system. There's a trend lately for people to remove the KDSS system all together and either fab in stock style sway bars, or run none at all (I wouldn't run none though)

[@wealthyperson3108]

@@ExitOffroad i know ppl do such a thing but... Still this system being Australian invention and nobody knows how it works and how to fix it in a good way.

[@terryyouth]

@@wealthyperson3108 hey- did you manage to fix the lean? there are videos on youtube on how to do it. But like said in above video, you do not want to bleed your system

[@ejshelby5460]

KDSS is an option on the Offroad trim and up?

[@terryyouth]

it is an option on the highter trim- usually

[@KWright8754]

Are there sway bar end links on the front of Kdss equipped 4Runners?

[@ExitOffroad]

No. It has a mount on one side and a piston on the other

[@KWright8754]

@@ExitOffroad much appreciated

[@Osamah001]

do all Landcruiser 2021 models have this ?

[@ExitOffroad]

I don't think so. Some in the world don't have KDSS but in the USA they all do.

[@tonyferreira8930]

Are these on every trim level?

[@WK2299]

No, I'm pretty sure it's only available for TRD Off-Road trim.

[@ExitOffroad]

No, it's an option on some trim levels but the levels have varied over the years. Pretty easy to spot it though with the info on this video.

[@dragonblue5]

On the Lexus GX 460 too

[@ExitOffroad]

@@dragonblue5 yes that's right, on a lot of them in the US