What Is Narcissism?

Narcissism is the word we routinely use to describe someone self-satisfied and arrogant. But what do we really mean by the word - and are we applying it correctly?
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“Accusing someone of narcissism has become one of the great and tempting insults of our age. It is what we are inclined to label anyone who appears overweening, boastful, entitled or excessively pleased with their own existence. But it’s possible to wonder whether the word really fits the conceited and bombastic types we’ve grown used to applying it to - and, a larger point, whether we’re really understanding, and therefore correctly addressing, the origins of the regrettable behaviour to which it refers…”
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[@therambler3713]

There is nothing wrong with loving yourself, the problem begins when you disregard everyone else and you start to think you're better than everyone

[@SIMPalaxy]

Tuko Pomwene once again, if you think you're better than everyone, you probably hate yourself enough to NEED to be better than everyone.

[@undeadpresident]

Narcissism isn't actually self love. It's a disorder where the narcissist is inwardly very immature and insecure, and outwardly project an image of normalcy and imitation of normal emotions, and gain a sense of self worth through pride and a false superiority complex fueled by enticing people into relationships with them (especially ones where the other person is dependent on the narcissist or people are subordinate to the narcissist) then treating them very abusively. It's a serious and very damaging disorder to those around them.

[@xboxsolox]

love that. is that a quote from somewhere?

[@YM-zf8mt]

it's hard not to think that way when you know most of the population watch reality tv shows almost a quarter of the population voted for trump in USA marine le pen in france morons like my mother driving like they own the road on the principle that they think themselves perfect and they are never at fault, having arguments without any logic not realizing that if I agree with her it's only because she isn't able to hear any counter argument to her senseless way of thinking. (I'm 24 it's not argument about cleaning my room more like "why did you fucking take 200€ from my account to buy perfume ? because I own the house you live in even though you are renting it" go find logic here) I know everyone can be better when I showed, to my sister something else than david guetta she began to listen to rock / jazz / rap etc... she opened her mind. but the fact that anyone can do it but yet I am only one of the few who did it by themselves really makes me think that other people sucks I don't consider myself particularly strong or intelligent in fact I know for a fact that some people are better than me and that I should try to learn something from them, but compared to most of the population I am sure of the fact that I am at least better than the majority. the simple fact that no one understands why someone would take an hour or two per week to think about himself, to understand what troubles him so that he can improve, really shows how not "normal" but retarded most of the population really is

[@yusurjamil566]

Intreseting topic

[@myopenmind527]

Red flags for me: Quick to lie Blame others Attack when they perceive they have been criticised. Inflated outward opinion of self and profound inner insecurities.

[@zhaiketoledo3658]

That's the one I haye

[@musingearth]

This is how I differentiate between self-love and Narcissism. Self-love: being aware and accepting of both their shortcomings and strength. Narcissism: attached to and exaggerate their strength while in denial of their shortcomings.

[@CRFSUIGENERIS]

Well said!

[@usualsuspects42]

spot on Yappo

[@TeKeyaKrystal]

this is great

[@manojkumar4687]

Thanks for the clarification🙏

[@cinnawhat8797]

YESSS

[@alterego924]

most narcissist will make others feel small just so they seem relevant.

[@jeremymason4095]

For me it’s been me telling people they can be who they want to be. I yearn to experience the authentic person in every one. I just want them to allow me to be me too. We can all have different opinions and coexist IF both parties are willing to communicate honestly. People still feel belittled though because I won’t limit myself in my capabilities. I believe everyone has the same potential. They just have to step into it. I can help. But only if they are accepting. I too want the help to coexist but you have to be straight up honest with me. I am the Narcissist that wants to love coexist and truly understand.

[@alterego924]

Well Jeremy you are quite rare. I long to simply exist in my truest form and be accepted, not tolerated.

[@jeremymason4095]

@@alterego924 yes!!!! Me as well. Ask god the universe the wall lol any higher power you believe in to send you those you need and to take away those you don’t need. It’s gone fuck you up at first lol but eventually me and you both will be living our best lives with the best people, not in the world, but the best people for us. 😊

[@alterego924]

I prayed for God to remove toxic ppl from my life. He removed almost everyone. Its been hard but its a freedom ive never known. I will meet a kindred spirit soon, i can feel them near. For now im improving myself so that im ready to receive them.

[@jeremymason4095]

@@alterego924 yes! Yes! Yes! I feel you so much! It’s a painful process but a process we all have to be willing to go through.

[@Candyannrox]

I dont think self-love should be referred to as "healthy narcissism" people with narcissistic personality disorder tend to use and abuse and put others down. I wouldn't want to equate my self-love as a form of narcissism.

[@LegoSwordViedos]

Narcissis in the original myth broke the heart of echo, Narcissism is never a good thing. it's devoid of self improvement and the love of others.

[@vandertuber]

People with genuine Narcissistic Personality Disorder have no empathy for anyone.

[@Caitlin_TheGreat]

Yeah, I'd like to jump on board here. I think this video is trying to portray narcissism as something harmless like having a good self-esteem. That's absolutely not what narcissism is. It's an unhealthy state of mind that even if begun in small doses can potentially grow and lead to a very distorted view of reality. This video just wants to re-brand the term and misuse it.

[@carbfiendjack2901]

A lot of people have been trying to push the concept of "healthy narcissism", and I agree that it's inappropriate. If you were to find the distinction between arrogance and narcissism, it'd become very clear why it's so inappropriate. The difference between narcissism and arrogance is primarily that narcissism is a pervasive and constant obsession and preoccupation with your own perceived greatness. A pervasive and constant obsession with your own greatness is in all cases a psychological abnormality that only exists as a defense mechanism to protect from equally pervasive and constant feelings of shame and insecurity; it's like the inflammation that occurs after a wound. Even the people that truly love themselves the most in this world are not constantly thinking about themselves and their finer qualities. Narcissism is always negative and always a sign of a disordered personality

[@asielsmith6007]

Yes! what Internet lurker said! You all are conflating two different but related things. Although narcissism isn't generally referred to positively.

[@damn671]

I never understood what narcissist is until I dated one. He was a doctor. Very successful and owns a hospital. He had the biggest problem balancing professional and personal life. He was so used to being the "boss" in his professional life that he applies it in his personal life. He thinks his opinions and thoughts are ALWAYS right and yours are ALWAYS wrong. He was the most difficult person I have ever met. I felt like I was inside the Matrix playing mind games with Neo and the Oracle. There was a very good reason why he is single at 61 and had 2 divorce. Narcissism was it. Even though very rich and successful, he had no friends because of his difficult "I am better than you personality"

[@tracesprite6078]

How sad for that man who had monetary wealth but not the wealth of being able to relate easily to others.

[@almalimon7813]

"one has to hate oneself really rather a lot before it ever seems like a good idea to devote ones life to trying to proof valuable in the eyes of complete strangers"

[@velliot]

I'm sorry to all the people who have narcissistic family members/partners/colleagues who keep getting told that the narcissist is the victim.

[@SIMPalaxy]

VElliot well that's not what the video is saying. The video still recognised that bad narcissists are a thing. It's just that because bad people love themselves doesn't mean you can't be a good person who also loves themselves. Many children of narcissists grow up in resentment believing they cannot cherish themselves, ever.

[@-anaamna5616]

VElliot victim my ass .

[@Voeris1]

rottenhuman_ Yet we must still take responsibility for our actions, and try out best to not harm or destroy others, even if we ourselves have been harmed in the past. Many people just don't care.

[@Voeris1]

I suppose that last sentence was what I was getting at, if you wanted to dissect it to that point.

[@halid36]

Go ahead and preach. Mine is a family member.

[@Adelinawrites]

I deeply despise people using the word 'narcissistic' to describe people who flaunt themselves on social media or in real life or post selfies and stuff... Poeple need to realize that narcissism is a psychological condition and anyone that's ever been in a relationship with a narcissist will tell you that was one of the worst things (if not the worst) they ever had to go through in life. And they know very well that it doesn't even f****ng start with them 'being full of themselves'.

[@pensiveone]

Yep. I was married to a NPD and let me tell you it was hell, and still is because we have children. She has absolutely no trouble using our kids against me to hurt me even though it harms the kids as well. The ironic part is what she does for a living: a counselor!

[@Adelinawrites]

Not even that uncommon, I know of really messed up people working as psychiatrists, teachers or counselors. Sorry you had to go through that and I'm also sorry for your kids. Hope they don't take after it, but narcissistic parents contribute greatly in narcissism developement in their kids.. And I know it's really hard to be done with them. I was dating one for two and a half years and eventhough we were just a couple it took almost two years to completely disconnect after. They're relentless. It doesn't surprise me at all that there are narc recovery groups - it's literal hell. Glad you got away at least.

[@pensiveone]

Your right about parents contribution to their children becoming narcissist; my ex mother-in-law is definitely a NPD and is the cause for my ex becoming one. At the age of 76 she has pushed away every single family member from her life except for my ex who is only there for the financial support she provides. Even her other three daughters want nothing to do with her. It must be a sad life being a NPD because in the end you wind up with nobody ever really caring about you. A NPD focuses on themselves all their lives and in the end that is all they have: themselves.

[@friendlybaby1]

Apparently this isn't that uncommon. Narcs can be drawn to professions that enable their disorder. Therapists, priests, doctors, teachers etc etc

[@fayeevpt]

Adelinawrites yeah me too. It's kind of like when people say 'I'm really ocd' or 'I'm bipolar' when they're just tidy and emotional.

[@degetei5287]

Anyone interested in Self Improvement?

[@evoke2976]

fuck no!

[@OnlyFai740]

Yup!!

[@mrrandomdude4291]

Degetei who needs self improvement when you're perfect.

[@jacobparra6878]

Degetei I don't need advice from a child lol

[@jimbob5026]

How is it self improvement if it comes from someone else?

[@CKeepItUp]

"In the minds of geniuses we find, once more, our neglected thoughts".Thank you so much School of Life

[@GenJotsu]

Those who really love themselves don't need the confirmation from others. These people are not to be confused with people who don't love themselves or others. That's a completely different direction.

[@taysands3760]

I Blame the people who decided to steal the word "Narcissistic" for its cluster B Personality Disorder. The meaning is now thrown around at people who may or may not actually love themselves. Now you have two drastically different groups of people with the same name associated with it. It's terribly confusing and makes it hard for everyone to identify the personality disorder and/or take it seriously. And it places shame and fear into those longing to build a loving healthy relationship with themselves. Either the DSM needs to reconsider the name or ppl need to know the difference.

[@maosw]

What the DSM defines is NPD - narcissistic personality disorder. There's a world of difference between people suffering from NPD (and their victims) and those mild annoyances of people with strong narcissistic traits like this video talks about. Those can actually be beneficial and healthy, NPD is nothing like that. But you are right - sadly, most people don't know what they talk about when uttering the words narcissist.

[@asielsmith6007]

This needs to be top comment.. or may be tSoL should do video responses (might be difficult, so may be not ).

[@uzaiya8864]

I was called narcissistic once just for arguing against someone (never once insulting their character while they continuously attacked mine). It's become the default insult, kind of like "you're a troll" when someone just plain doesn't like you.

[@hole1stdrillpresschannel]

Did you hear about the narcissist who performs autofellatio? He´s quite full of himself.

[@lucemus1]

tally ho!

[@ApPersonaNonGrata]

The perks of having excellent health insurance. Mine refuses to pay so I can get some ribs removed.

[@coreycox2345]

I clicked on this to see if it would be a picture of you.

[@willianmelnechuky2158]

Dustin James Wow you're so heartless

[@dustinjames1268]

you're so mad 😂 would you like some fries with your salt?

[@diegolatorre2628]

A word that exs' and haters working together label you with when they can no longer manipulate you.

[@mrsszmanda07]

Good God..third week in a row that TSoL has uploaded a video on a topic I'd been researching for days before its uploaded...scary 😂

[@mrsszmanda07]

***** Exactly! ;)

[@cpastorfield90]

Not everything is about you. Such a narcissist. (jk)

[@QUACK.ATTACK]

They must really love u

[@mrsszmanda07]

Welcome to Nopeville The School of Life do?! I hope so haha! 😉😂

[@consumedbyrage5951]

@J Mc you're so gorgeous 🤗

[@ApPersonaNonGrata]

It is important to note: There is a world of difference between someone who is somewhat narcissistic, as a genuine love-of-self vs someone with a true "Narcissistic Personality Disorder"; which comes with a troubled (lacking; empty; or worse) sense of self and a desperate perpetual need to be validated and sheltered from any impact to that vulnerability.

[@GrahamMilkdrop]

Gratuitous. Nicely put... Good to see you give a nod to the 'fake it till you make it' crew! I think of them as being victims of a long running social engineering campaign designed to promote apathy and break down social cohesion by infecting people with a form of solipsism syndrome... all dressed up as 'self-empowerment'. "The Secret" for example, sold over 300 million copies and turned an entire generation of people into self obsessed, passionately delusional, socially irresponsible, politically apathetic, sensation seekers who think they are following a spiritual path that enables them to create their own reality just by believing they are entitled to it! Oh, and of course made more real by sucking up to successful people and cutting off from any 'negativity'! It's practically self induced NPD and they are as fanatical as any of the religious institutions.. Their mantra seems to be "Let go... move on"... "Let go... move on"... "Let go... move on"... That's my rant for today... done!

[@marleoca2644]

+LagiNaLangAko23 I met two people (a man and a woman - but no connection between them) who were just like that. I was friends with each of them for 3-4 years, but then...I couldn't take it anymore! Frustrated and self hating people who are continuously playing the role of "narcissistic" and arrogant are really hard to deal with.

[@fionakerrsatanicwitch1887]

I suffered at the hands of a narcissist last year. It destroyed me, and now I see them trying to provoke me. The only way is to remove yourself from their sphere. Much love❤

[@evoke2976]

So Narciss himself wasn't narcissistic. he just loved the person he met on the reflection. he didn't know it was him. this is all too flawed.

[@imatiothiki]

He fell in love with the image he saw and lost his will to live. He stared at his reflection until he died.

[@emilytheimp]

Tea of the GODS Just Like humanity itself is flawed

[@Abdi-libaax]

he was gay.

[@YamiAi]

His own perspective is not terribly relevant. He still fell in love with himself in the end, thus being the essence of narcissism.

[@lilkpstan9686]

abdi1983 he wasn't gay; he just thought the person in the water was a beautiful woman Idk that's what my school taught me

[@picassophasakda842]

sadly, i've been surrounded by narcissists growing up within my own family. thank God that God shown me the way out. but its funny after listening to this. at times i can come off as i'm showboating or bragging about my achievements, but in all reality, i'm very expressive. i expressive who i am and bring the life in me out. and i speak of my achievements to inspire people and to remind myself what i'm capable of. but then again, who cares what people think. i know me. a real life problem is assumptions. they cause too many problems and misunderstandings. but good points with the video.

[@javierquinterosurzua2767]

I was always afraid of being narcissistic, but I ended up not loving myself. Now, I have no fear of recognizing my abilities and pros when around others (only when necessary though :) )

[@naemfield]

I can't stop thinking, obsessively, how much of a failure I am, always measuring my worthlessness against my perceived worthiness of others, I've found no match so far. I've been diagnosed with NPD because of it. The point: Narcissism has little to do with vanity nor self love but a unhealthy obsession with yourself.

[@tracesprite6078]

I suggest that each time you think harshly about yourself, that you insist that you think of three things that are worthwhile about yourself. They don't have to be huge, heroic things but they have to be positive. e.g. if you think, "I'm so dumb at conversation," then you have to think of three positive things e.g. "I read a newspaper most days a week so I am keeping up with current events.", and "I am very patient with my young nephew when he wants to tell me a long story about his day at school." and "I go for a walk twice a week so that is helping my fitness levels." In addition, when you think very generalized things, you should be more specific and make the criticism more moderate. e.g. you might think, "I'm so dumb at conversation," but then you should change it to something specific e.g. "Sometimes I can't think of much news to share with other people but on the other hand, I'm usually good at listening to the stories from others in a caring way." Or you might think, "I'm a total coward." So you change that to, "I feel embarrassed when I get scared during thunder storms. On the other hand, I go to work by bus each day, even though I find it worrying that buses have no seat belts." By making your criticisms more moderate and realistic, you can see yourself as a work in progress instead of seeing yourself as a total failure. We are all works in progress so please, join the club.

[@FutureLaugh]

finally some kind words for narcissists for a change!

[@zanara3]

I can see the point of the video but making light of a very serious mental disorder is not something I'd expect from this channel. This topic should garner more awarness since the outcomes for families/couples are highly abusive cycles in our society.

[@undeadpresident]

I agree Katy T. I think this video confounds the definition of narcissism and as such can muddle the concept in the mind of someone who doesn't know what narcissism actually is, and lead them to believe that narcissism isn't so bad. Being trapped in a relationship with a narcissist can be a living nightmare.

[@meinungabundance7696]

This video does NOT counfound anything! The School of Life is not just a bunch of pubertary idiots who are producing entertaining videos. The school has been established by Alain de Botton, a higly educated British Swiss philosopher. His co-workers are professionalists, too.

[@whereaboutsunknown3822]

A lot of people are missing the point of what this lesson on narcissism is about. There are two different kinds of narcissism. 1. The self-centered, full of themselves, overly confident, and arrogant type of narcissist. 2. The shy, sensitive, introverted and unconfident types of a narcissist. They are overly conscious of themselves, to the point that they care so much about what people think about them, even to complete strangers. This is due in part to not having enough love and confident in oneself. They feel they have to prove their worth to others. Inadvertently thinking about oneself too much. This video was mostly addressing the second one. I know because I think I am the second one, and I've done some prior research when I noticed I was thinking about myself a lot. I suffer from extreme lack of confidence and always try to prove myself. I'm putting too much focus on myself, when really I should just relax and enjoy whatever is happening around me. I hate that I do that. I think this video is great for people like me, as this is also a serious problem.

[@yinggao6787]

Whereabouts Unknown this is not narcissism, that is not an appropriate word to describe you. I think you want to know yourself , prove yourself and improve yourself. That is not relevant to narcissism. Narcissistic person never want to improve himself because he thinks he is just good enough.

[@marleoca2644]

+Whereabouts Unknown Wow, you are just like my boyfriend! With the only difference that he seems to not be aware of how much he cares about making a good impression to everybody. The problem is that one cannot try all the time to please everyone around him/her and to be happy or to remain true to himself/herself in the same time. It's one or the other. Anyways, try to not care too much about what people think about you, because no matter what you do (good), there will always be people who won't appreciate it. I, personally, don't give a damn anymore about what people think about me. I am just being myself all the time, and if they like me, okay, if not... it's only their loss!:D See? I'm a narcissistic! LOL

[@desisher5292]

This is the 3rd video I've watched today on narcissism and I still am not sure what it actually is. Isn't it just someone who has no empathy for others and feels no guilt or remorse in using and manipulating them for their own benefit? Isn't it just a fancy word that has become fashionable recently to describe self-centred, bossy and dominating people?

[@TeKeyaKrystal]

"someone who has no empathy for others and feels no guilt or remorse in using and manipulating them for their own benefit" THIS PART ! that's a very accurate description of a person with true narcissistic personality disorder

[@animikhaghosh6536]

I would say Narcissism is self love and people with unhealthy self love are are struggling with self acceptance. If you have problems with self acceptance and self love you can't love others. People with NPD are insecure 😟 self.

[@lovelion2001]

i thought the cartoon character will be more orange, wearing a very long red tie and a masterpiece of a over comb

[@amyludwig8685]

“Failed to recognize himself and was entranced with his own ‘image’”... Failed to recognize himself.. failed to re-cognize himself.. know himself, his goodness, his shallowness, his real self.. and became en-tranced.. within a trance of his own image, persona... ...

[@perfumaphilia3246]

This video describes me perfectly. My emotionally abusive ex used to call me a narcissist and would say I was so "self-involved" and "in love with myself". Self-involved maybe, but I don't love myself. I'm actually riddled with insecurities, and filled with profound self-loathing and self-doubt. I was severely neglected as a child in several ways, and not given enough attention by either of my parents (they were separated). I'm always worried that people I interact with actually secretly dislike me and are only tolerating me because they have to. I'm always worried that my current partner is going to grow to hate me and I've even gone so far as trying to convince her that she can do better, and trying to break up with her so she doesn't have to deal with me. Make no mistake, severe mental illness is one of the most morbid, dark, disturbing, terrifying, and painful things one has to deal with. It infects every area of your life negatively, and in fact, dictates your entire outlook on life. It's the persistent sabotager, the abusive relationship from which you can't escape. It can manifest itself in irrational and unpredictable ways, and completely sap the joy out of everything. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

[@sacredearthguardianauria2892]

Perfumaphilia I suggust checking out Melanie Evans or Lisa A Ramono for great videos on healing self partnering and thriving after abuse. Narcs love to project their flaws onto their targets. I know it was not easy what you went through. But you can thrive again. It takes you to release yourself from your programs and take back your power. Best of Luck!

[@JulieKroko]

Perfumaphilia Don't worry. You are not a narcissist, just extremely co-dependent from having been neglected. Co-dependency can be healed, because you are someone with real feelings and you are aware of what is happening to you. A narc will NEVER question whether she/he is a Narc or not. They have zero self-consciousness and could never describe themselves like you just did.

[@garyoak7168]

So what's the message here exactly? We should love ourselves, but people call you a negative word if you do love yourself, also if other people observe that you love yourself you really just hate yourself deep inside?

[@meunomejaestavaemuso]

Gary Oak there is two types of people, those who hate themselves and everything they do, and try to put a facade to show how great they are to hide theirs flaws. And there are those who are in peace with themselves and are able to truly appreciate the things they do.

[@dustinjames1268]

The message is that we're too quick to judge That these people arent who we think they are - they act immensely powerful, happy, in love with themselves Meanwhile in reality, it stems from self-hatred, fear of being "invisible", etc. instead Its that we should be more accepting of others, but that true narcissists have a personality disorder, and is very serious, and affects the lives of everyone around them, sometimes even destroying their own life

[@Dennis-ns1yx]

Basically, hate yourself and people will love you. Really really stupid thinking that most people have nowadays.

[@lolalina_]

This is why we truly have to prevent narcissism.. Especially look after children.. I think we have to much generational trauma to deal with.. But the problem is if we don't deal with it we might project it onto our children And one day it might lead them to become narcissistic(being tooo spoiling is wrong but also abuse can lead to it) Problem is narcissists are really hard to "heal".. But do a lot of damage.. Covered and open narcissism I know we can't save all people.. But I often have to think about it The world is so unfair because psychopaths and narcissists are in powerful positions or very rich But the world will become even more cruel if we let others traumatize children to the point where they become narcissistic adulds who only do harm Not every happy person is just happy because they were blessed.. Some people saw literally hell and crawl back up.. Just to be bothered all the time by people who think that they own them something This entitlement is truly dangerous.. The sad part is narcissts will search a partner where they can continue the narcissistic abuse and this leads to even more ab@sed children later one This is why we have to educate ourselves on gaslighting..and give our best to heal what's needed So that we take back our power.. Because a narcisst will only feel powerful as long they are able to make others feel not powerful and in fact inferior.. If many people heal they can't go on with this anymore And maybe.. Who know one will be able to actually start to work on him/herself.. Maybe the progress that stopped somewhere in childhood will continue

[@fridaandrea5090]

❤️

[@Sophie-uc8vp]

You forgot the personality disorder of the same name. It's on the rise most alarmingly and most of us will encounter these unpleasant folk in our life.

[@LegoSwordViedos]

The key part they left out in this video about the myth of Narcissis is that he was so self absorbed he broke the heart of Echo, and only ended up hurting all those around him. Much closer to the actions and behaviors of a real narcissist. If SOL are going to site ancient myths and sources do everyone a favor and don't use lies of omition and at least give a summery of the other pennant parts of the myth.

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

The message, for people who don't seem to understand, is that like in most things, the appearance of something is a poor guide to how they really are: Narcissists are not people who are love themselves -- it is precisely because they have no self-worth that they aggrandize themselves and seek the approval of others. We give them this label of "excessive self obsession and love" because, as a society, with have mis-internalized what narcissism is and where it comes from. The things we call Narcissistic stem from self-hatred, not self love. A person who truly embraces and loves themselves *doesn't need gratification from other people.* They are already secure in their self worth.

[@sacredearthguardianauria2892]

Locutus Borg and that is the thing most narcs see themselves so special through their false ego.... If they really loved themselves then they would not need constant validation of their specialness and see how others that take a stand and call them out aren't being cruel to the poor narc but rather revealing their true nature. Which is full of hate, selfishness and a total disregard for anyone else. They only care about themselves and anyone that props up their false mirror of all mighty godliness... let's not forget the covert narcs they act lovely in the public and abusing controling and manipulating their loved ones at home.... Overt narcs are much easier to identify... and if you call one out they will deney, point back at you or start a smear campaign and act like they are the victim!

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

That is true: they are self-obsessed, even if they aren't self-loving, and you can;t really love other people if you don't love yourself.

[@whereaboutsunknown3822]

Yes! You described it perfectly, and it seems many people here don't get it

[@Girlinterrupted955]

“One has to hate oneself really rather a lot before it ever seems like a good idea to devote one’s life trying to prove valuable in the eyes of complete strangers.”

[@smol_chilli_pepper]

the word narcissist alone has negative connotations. we can't just change the meaning because we feel like it. a narcissist is someone who is so self absorbed and self centred that they don't acknowledge their influence on other people. they lack humility. just because you're comfortable in your own skin and love to show off your talents doesnt make you a narcissist it just means that you're confident.

[@okaywhynot4728]

There's is a difference between narcissism and genuine NPD. Just like there's one between feelings of anxiety and an anxiety disorder. Between being depressed and having CD, having an obsession and having OCD, not paying attention and having ADHD. Bear in mind this is a philosophy and therapy channel. NOT A psychology one. It talks about these traits with respect to the human condition so no one has to go, "oh god I'm experiencing this thing I MUST HAVE A MENTAL DISORDER" Calm down, people. We've all got trace amounts of crazy in us-some more than others. just try to embrace it.

[@BeenSauce]

this video does not address the difference between self love and the threat of Anti social personality disorder, aka narcissism

[@TheJefferson1998]

Kenny J aspd and narrcism are two different things. while aspd can has narrcistic traits that's not the whole thing.

[@undeadpresident]

True darth. Also the video isn't accurate in terms of describing what actual narcissism is. It's not actually having a grandiose sense of self nor is it self love. It's a disorder where the narcissist is very insecure and manipulative and they are dangerous individuals because they seek positions of dominance over other people then abuse those people. They get their sense of self-worth through pride and manipulation without regard to the harm they cause to others.

[@NeonHelix20]

undeadpresident what u describe is npd or narcissistic personality disorder. This vid, i believe, i pray, is just about regular old narcissism not the mental disorder

[@holdencaustic]

This simply sheds light on the difference between self love and the self loathing that is the basis of narcissism.

[@x16881]

They should have explained the difference between someone with a Narcistic Personality Disorder (which is closely related to Psychopathy) and someone who has narcistic personality traits. They should have mentioned alos the number 1 personality trait of a narcissist, which is a (total) lack of empathy and interest in people around them

[@pattycake5643]

my soon to be ex, was so grandeur that I could not see how he could even deal with me, but then I discovered my less than the best made him feel veary good about himself, I slightly understood it, untill he started to creat situations were I was made to feel less than just to boost his ego.

[@sacredearthguardianauria2892]

Patty Cake sounds like he was using gas lighting and brought you into the devaluing phase. Also they love to use peoples fears and insecurities etc against them to control and beat down the oersons confidence to deepent heir control and abuse

[@sacredearthguardianauria2892]

Patty Cake If you havr a soon to be ex that is a narc then I suggust watching Lisa A Ramono and Melanie Tonya Evans on youtube with lots of amazing advice for leaving narcs and how to recover and thrive again. Best of luck! I had to leave one and many times they act crazy in the end. Either try to gas light, hoover, or beg to stay. Some get angry and fight. They are extra manipulative in the end. Best of luck!

[@pattycake5643]

Sacred Earth Guardian Auria Gaines well that is scary. mine is going to want to see what I'm up to, most likely will have a friend spoke on me, he has been super nice while moving his stuff out, and telling me that later on he can help with a project, I told him no, I got this. he just realy wants to hang around, and his story keeps changing when it comes to his getting out of town date.

[@liak8786]

Towards the end of the video, it seems to say that every artist who publishes their work is a narcissist. Should you only make art for the sake of creating it, but never with a public release in mind? To me, that seems like a strange idea.

[@Madison08851]

Liak That's what I was thinking, some artists this is their job, and that is how they gain popularity to buy their works 😞

[@liak8786]

That, too. But also if they don't sell that much and do it as a hobby, isn't it, like, "allowed" to create stuff in order to get praise?

[@Madison08851]

Liak Well, art is a cultural thing, so usually if a person is making art, it's usually not just for themselves but arts purpose is to be shared, to share thoughts and ideas. And good artists search for constructional critics. But I can see what he means, some people shared their art for compliments, obsessed with the attention and praise. And only post them for attention and praise, feeding off of it. I think that's where the line divides the two.

[@Madison08851]

Stoic Art I don't think you saw the difference I made, everything you said is yes, normal. I'm talking about something much different. I'm talking about someone who *needs* compliments on their art to make them or their art feel worth anything. They feed on compliment after compliment, and fish for it consistently. It's not healthy, and is narcissism. Narcissist think there's nothing wrong with them already, but they still rely on compliments to keep their image of perfection up. This isn't light posting searching for what your audience thinks. But art at it's core is expression of the human creative skill and imagination, in visual form, to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power. But yea, I was talking about the toxicity of only wanting compliments, and not criticism because they believe they are already this perfect image of a human. for their outside image anyway.

[@diannecatingub1930]

i really love how school of life gets down to the root of these issues. great job !!

[@soltanalosmi475]

the big problem is the narcissistic human have no idea that he is narcissistic. like now a lot of people comments here about it and they think they are on the good part. i'm narcissistic some time and i know that i have knowing it the hard way. and i'm working on it.

[@VhsssTv]

I think I'm better than most people, not because I think I'm that great or vain but because I see how rotten humanity has become. People are no longer down to earth, happy with themselves, kind for kindness sake, backstabbing and selfish. I try to be a good person. I hate most people.

[@isaiahfisher2337]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but humanity was NEVER good, or down to Earth, or happy with themselves, or kind, or unselfish. 200 years ago, we thought stealing land from and killing Native Americans was OK.150 years ago, we thought it was okay to own and torture people. 50 years ago we thought it was okay to keep some people from voting, or using the same bathroom as you, because of their race. Today, people in first-world countries are still driven to suicide by their peers because of their looks, self-identity, or sexual orientation. There were no "good old days", but there's always the future. You try to be better, surround yourself with people who ARE better, and fight tirelessly against the people who are ruining the world for those who are good.

[@VhsssTv]

damn good point! I just hate how it seems like no one is trying to even try to be better, like don't these people want to live in a happier world?

[@isaiahfisher2337]

Lots of people don't try, but some do. A lot of those that ARE trying, are talked down to and bashed constantly. Ever wonder why "Vegan", "Social Justice Warrior", and "Socialist" have become insults on the internet? It's not like being any of these things inherently makes you a bad person. In fact, most (Not all, but most) people take up veganism, social justice, or left-wing politics because they're trying to make the world a better or fairer place. But instead of helping, people constantly berate the people and groups who ARE trying, even the smallest bit. They call out their weakest and most unfortunate members, (the few vegans who take it really far, the rare social justice warrior who thinks white people can't face hardship, the one socialist who wants a return to Soviet Russia). It's not just left-wingers, either. Christians and Muslims are both attacked online for their religions, regardless of how much they might be trying to help others or how peacefully they practice their religions. With everybody so demonized, it's hard to see any good being done, even when good is genuinely being done.

[@SNOWSOS]

Man this video hit close

[@uhdiva]

fr 😔

[@b.h3877]

if you have ever read The Alchemist , Paulo had mentioned this briefly and the way he put it was very beautiful , the story was that narcissists went every day to see his the reflection in the lake and when narcissist died the lake kept crying so a tree next to the lake asked the lake why it was crying and that narcissist was only admiring his own reflection and then the lake replied that it loved looking at itself in the reflection in narcissists eyes , that pretty much sums up a relationship with a narcissistic person

[@sofiecarrillo2823]

Everyone stop hating on this, this channel is just trying to show that we should stop calling each other narcissists just because we try to love ourselves and show people we are good at something, and we should start supporting each other and acknowledge the good in everyone instead of denying it

[@sofiecarrillo2823]

T Bird I'm not defending narcissists I'm saying the point of this video is that we shouldn't be calling people narcissists just because they love themselves or want some attention, instead should be treated as something serious that is a real disorder instead of an insult, I might be innocent but at least I understand the difference between those two

[@rosariolake1810]

good narcissist?! have you ever meet one thiere the worst

[@daniellevinson6975]

@rosario lake The narrator was talking about *short-term* narcissism DURING CHILDHOOD... This type of self-love *usually* gives way to balanced concern for the well-being of others.

[@julessmith1633]

I work with someone like this, he always has to be better. I think it's pretty sad and depressing that he feels the need to constantly validate himself. This video is spot on.

[@ernststravoblofeld]

A little sophistry can go a long way to confusing an issue. Narcissistic personality is a specific condition that we in the US are getting way too familiar with.

[@whereaboutsunknown3822]

A lot of people are missing the point of what this lesson on narcissism is about. There are two different kinds of narcissism. 1. The self-centered, full of themselves, overly confident, and arrogant type of narcissist. 2. The shy, sensitive, introverted and unconfident types of a narcissist. They are overly conscious of themselves, to the point that they care so much about what people think about them, even to complete strangers. This is due in part to not having enough love and confident in oneself. They feel they have to prove their worth to others. Inadvertently thinking about oneself too much. This video was mostly addressing the second one. I know because I think I am the second one, and I've done some prior research when I noticed I was thinking about myself a lot.

[@igorhiperactivo2446]

I'm a very narcissist person, thanks for making this video, I'm struggling with this problem and its very good to understand it better. :)

[@tracesprite6078]

Hi Igor, I used to worry about having to high a regard for myself. Then I decided that for every good point, there is usually a possible difficulty. For instance, I have some leadership skills but this means that sometimes I am too bossy. So I need to watch out for that fault but be glad that sometimes I can offer my services in a leadership role. A good quality is that I can express myself really well. A danger coming from that is that I sometimes forget to really listen to the opinions of others - but acknowledging that fault means that I can be on the lookout for it. A good thing is that I read a lot of books but a fault is that sometimes I spend too long describing the book I've just read and that can be boring for others. So my attitude is that we can be grateful for whatever is good about ourselves but also grateful for having insights into some of our faults. This means that we can keep on working to build our strengths and reduce our weaknesses. No need to get too discouraged. Our personalities are an ongoing project for us to gradually work on.

[@YamiAi]

it is worth keeping in mind that some people with frontal brain damages may in fact, as a result of their damages, become true narcissists in the sense that they lose the ability to feel empathy and thus only think of themselves as humans and the rest as tools or annoyances. These people really do exist and it is regrettable.

[@YamiAi]

If you do not have frontal lobe damages my description does not fit you. It seems you simply require more personal attachment to care for others. Completely normal.

[@CRFSUIGENERIS]

I read this in the book “Mindsight” by Dr. Daniel Siegel M.D. Great point.

[@ronch550]

Hi. My wife is such a brat. I'm not sure she's a narcissist but this is what she does: she's very controlling, doesn't listen to me 99% of the time (and when she does she's going to say something nasty with it, like complaining about me), berates those below her and calls them names, often brings up separation, loves to talk about herself (like, instead of saying "That's a nice place", she's going to say "I've been there" or "I like that place"), she lies, hers is hers and mine is hers, I suspect she has a false sympathy for others, likes to be the center of attention (even 'hijacks' conversations so she'll be in control of it), always bosses people around including me, never owes up to her bad bratty behavior or anything else she does like not paying debts or taking my money and not wanting to return it, wants to show off with her expensive stuff like bags, jewelry, acts nice in front of friends but acts like hell at home, even pretends to be nice sometimes, etc. Is she a narcissist or something else?

[@theokchannel2081]

the journey to Loving other people begins inside

[@JulieKroko]

This video does not describe what true narcissism is. Let's not mix self-love and narcissism. True Narcissists are completely devoid of any type of love, they cannot love others or themselves. They live obsessed with feeling any type of attention (both positive and negative), they will disregard other people's feelings and needs and they will intentionally harm others so they can feel better about themselves. It's a real personality disorder and it shouldn't be made prettier. Narcissists can never recover and spend their time on this earth ruining lives. I would suggest not making uneducated videos, as it can really confuse and mess up people's perceptions.

[@Jessica_BR]

Exactly. They could explain how narc people are manipulative, obsessive, compulsive liars, arrogant, toxic, cheater, untruthful. They only romanticized self love instead of show the true color of narcissism.

[@burieddeepbetween]

Narcissists can never recover? That's an extremely damaging statement to make, which you can't prove with absolute certainty. You've clearly missed what this video is trying to accomplish... I can't believe that I would ever actually come to the defence of such awful people such as narcissists, but by making such a statement you are only negating or reversing potentially positive progress. Please think more before you post.

[@auntmanda6157]

Now how about you do a video on what narcissism actually is

[@pallavidas6353]

I loved this video.. unless we all love and respect ourselves, we cannot even begin to feel the same way for others.

[@nickdamjanovic5065]

Your work and channel are amazing. Been watching your videos for a long time now. Love.

[@flubby18]

What the narrator is describing more accurately describes a Dependent Personality Disorder. Narcissism is a much more dangerous disorder and can destroy the lives of those caught in the thrall of a narcissist's grip.

[@lorenzomcnally6629]

Yes. Exactly. My relative believed all her problems came from everyone else's faults. She became an expert in using words of self love to deny any personal responsibility for her continuous whirlwind of drama that sucked you in and basically made everyone feel miserable.

[@Tinyflower1]

That video does not explain what narcissism is. I am disappointed. This is what narcissism is: *Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from others* *Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.* *Self-perception of being unique, superior and associated with high-status people and institutions* *Needing constant admiration from others* *Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others* *Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain* *Unwilling or unable to empathise with others' feelings, wishes, or needs* *Intensely envious of others and the belief that others are equally envious of them* *Pompous and arrogant demeanour*

[@anelbre0904]

Cookie Panda spot on!

[@qaedtgh2091]

If a person truly knows their self worth, they know the company that is worthy of their presence.

[@92alexmaster]

I understand Narcissism as when someone acts like they are the center of the world, are unconcerned with anybody else's feelings or well being, and react negatively to anyone or anything that threatens to burst that illusion. Its of course caused by a combination with very low self esteem and lack of empathy capabilities.

[@thomasmichaels1671]

This video has nothing to do with actual narcissism and you shouldn't have used that term, it's pretty misleading and spreading misinformation.

[@aeroblivion2823]

You are entitled to your own opinion. Everything is perspective.

[@dessyjodark517]

Noification squad ;)

[@hermanshankovitz2700]

So I guess now according to a very large number of people I'm now this huge narcissism. This does not in any way, shape or form describe me at all.

[@twobirds1817]

I love this video and drawings so so much.I watched it 2 times in row and saving it so I can watch many more times.

[@drakefaden1464]

If you need a real life example just look at our president!

[@ninosykes2350]

Didn't Narcissus ultimately fall in the lake and drown though?

[@dustinjames1268]

He stared at his own reflection until he died

[@ninosykes2350]

Oh smh I'm Greek and I got it wrong ._.

[@User-to7nb]

This was updated at the right time 🙏🏽❤️

[@duyguozkann]

THIS VIDEO IS GOLD

[@coachcosta69]

This video confronts the stigma of narcissism and basically encourages what they believe to be "good narcissism". This is a made up, non- psychological term. Even an inverted empathic narcissist is NOT a good one. Having a narcissist balance listening and speaking is sometimes near impossible, they can't have the attention off of themselves while they spew validation bait from their mouths. This video warps the perspective on narcissism and presents it in a harmless way with undertones of western culture. Western culture causes narcissism. Western culture runs on capitalism and the consuming of products outside the body, to create the illusion that self love comes from external stimuli not from within. This causes narcissism. Enlightenment is the only way to beat it.

[@goofycawfee]

Tiberius Le Vasco exactly!

[@ypsawbones3646]

Tiberius Le Vasco western civilization is so evillllll...capitalism sux (marx so proud right now) eastern civilization the best!1!it never had problems eveh it's people so good and never did despicable things eveh and omg such free and non conformist at all they are let your 3th eye open wide for duh universe

[@coachcosta69]

ypsawbones 364 it's not evil. It just is. I'm acknowledging the pattern of narcissism in which I see. My own subjective truth. Eastern culture isn't actually the answer. I can see why you would think that under the mental construct of dichotomies. However, there is no right or wrong. I can address what makes our culture different from others, and acknowledge a pattern in which we have all agreed on to be narcissism.

[@ypsawbones3646]

Tiberius Le Vasco I know that there's not right or not (since moral values are vague and relative )but taking a huge dump on whole civilizations and there achievements for the sake eastern philosophy -religion I call that ungrateful ps. of course a civilization that relies on individualism and materialism will have a high percentage of narcissism relative to other cultures

[@coachcosta69]

ypsawbones 364 no there is no right and wrong because we communicate in sound waves and light and use judgement to categorize such. Clearly I'm dealing with a fellow judging type. You take that I took a "dump" and am "ungrateful" for acknowledging that we've all agreed on narcissism meaning something else besides how it was presented in the video. Narcissism is truly a maladaptation of the ego. I see the value of a free market. But I see greater value in the truth. I'm not opposed to a free market. However I believe we should be cautious before we allow a culture of materialism, narcissism, and a lack of death awareness guide our lives until one day we die, only living for competitiveness, material goals and dopamine. I know the stigma of the socialist, that has no economic intelligence. I know I don't offer any solutions and I can see why you find me ungrateful. That's okay. I assure you I'm very grateful. The ability to share different ideas is one of the things I admire most about western culture.

[@jd5274]

This is Tone Deff. If This video knew about real narcs and the abuse they cause through manipulation they would have nothing good to say.

[@jozina1]

Jonathan Dalili They talk about people we loosly call narcistic. Not people who are really narsistic.

[@ErikDaVinci]

Jonathan Dalili Yes I agree. One of the most negative behavior of narcissists is to blame others for your own wrongs, thinking you are to perfect to be "my own fault". And there is a lot to read about abusive narcissistic mothers. However, it was a nice video showing another perpective when self love is positive.

[@Cristobels-Green-Boots]

-- yep!!!!!

[@maosw]

The difference of being somewhat narcissistic and having full fledged narcissistic personality disorder can't be overstated. NPD tends to wreck the life of anyone close to the narcissist and ultimately the narc himself. It's a tragic and very serious mental disorder.

[@Adelinawrites]

I was actually expecting this video to explain what real narcs are as opposed to what people think they are and it went in a completely different direction. Probably first SOL video I was disappointed with.

[@FUNPOV]

Great timing on this one, really appreciated the ideas. To me though it can go further beyond the exploration of self-love, and into the basic human need to feel special. Everyone has it inside them, but some don't know how to accept this and express it in a healthy way (maybe they've been taught that it is a weakness). So the narcissism resorts to manipulating those around them to achieve this special feeling. It's a fear of honest communication, and feeling deeply vulnerable, that will stop someone from trying.

[@dylanbeard9770]

What sort of manipulation achieves these special feelings?

[@FUNPOV]

Having control over someone is power, no? Makes them as the center of attention.

[@glisero4043]

I've always been praised for almost everything I did and here I am... being a masochist. At first I didn't know why I crave ruthless remarks and why I find pleasure in physical and mental pain but looking back at my life I came to understand: there have never been a person who hated me nor someone who was overly strict with me. There have always been expectations but never punishments when failed. Now I just want someone who sees me as I see myself. Is it a lack of narcissism, I wonder...

[@tracesprite6078]

You may be able to help by accepting praise but changing it a little. e.g. If someone says "You always have the best ideas" you could say, "That's an encouraging bit of feedback. Yes, some of my ideas are good but I was very glad to have your input when we were planning that meeting the other day." Or if someone says, "You know all there is to know about dogs!", you might say, "Thanks for those encouraging words. I have learnt a bit about dogs but I would love to hear your ideas about how to stop my dog from barking at night." Thus you accept the feedback a little but make it more realistic by pointing out where you need help or where you are not perfect.

[@mofetabionica]

If you can't love yourself, how in the hell you gonna love somebody else?

[@staticochi]

this video in particular is incredibly flawed

[@x16881]

useless comment, if you don't explain the reason why...

[@Masquerola]

No idea how you guys make these so fast. Animations, writing, everything.

[@misskaistar]

Growing up from a narcissist culture background, Taiwanese. I'm glad there's a location in Taipei. Thank you 😊

[@PX_Xaver]

Another title could be "The difference between narcissism and self love"

[@hinxlinx]

There's NO "healthy narcissism". Be content with one self does NOT equate to a "healthy" dosage of excessive selfish interest over others. Muddling the definition of narcissism ain't wisdom at all, but encouraging narcissistic behaviors with excuses. This is the 2nd time I've found you muddled definitions for your misguided "good intention". Last one, "How to be Selfish", is a bad philosophy also in my view.

[@jaybird8009]

Most narcissistic people are successful, and the people who get annoyed at it need to be less sensitive

[@jancerny8109]

I never knew Narcissus's parentage before. Interesting that the ancient tale-spinners made him beyond human, but in another sense, sub-human--unable to recognize his own identity. Self-recognition, and acknowledgement of what we really are, is part of being a developed person.

[@broucekdomi]

You've portraided narcissism as something normal even healthy but you haven mentioned how extremely toxic and harmful is it to the loved ones, their children and generally the surrounding of the narcissist.

[@gustavojavier2353]

Im not a narcissist, but if u like this comment I will feel validated

[@sacredearthguardianauria2892]

undeadpresident could not have said it better myself. So many times people focus more on how to deal with a narssists after they already have been lulled into the mesmerizing trickery of true narssists. It indeed comes down to boundaries which have to do with us valuing ourselves and creating clear sovereignty as well as making ithers accountable for their actions. If they don't show real accountability by real change then their words are meaningless. It's one thing that people have wounds. It is different with narcs because they see themselves as victims and harm others and have no true empathy. We can not fix them, change them etc. Just be grateful for them bringing to light our own patterns that need to change in us so as to prevent repeating our past. Instead we are gifted with being able to see our beliefs and programming that have invited these situations to play out. When we change inside and we stand solid and firm in our own authority as well as be discerning we gain confidence. And as time goes on we live liberated no longer thrown off by anyone, any drama, any toxic people and situations! Too anyone currently experiencing true narssistic abuse, manipulation etc. you can exit these toxic relationships. There are amazing free resources on line and youtube. If you have left there is also resources to heal and thrive again. Best wishes for healing journeys to people on here. favorite youtube channels: family tree counsel, lisa ramono, tonia evans

[@ja2416]

Narcissist don’t love them selves, hence the quote in the clip. “Most of the problem of the world are created by those who don’t love themselves.”

[@mephistophelesthesilentchi3446]

Narcissists can be pretty nice people, if you don't take them at face value.

[@goofycawfee]

This is not what a narc is like though, stop treating them like humans when their intentions are to harm other people even when they don't know it

[@LynnNeumann]

Healthy narcissism presents itself as normal levels of confidence, acceptance and respect for oneself. Those with a good dose of adaptive narcissism are self-sufficient while at the same time caring and empathetic of others. Those with impaired empathy, who are self-centered, who manipulate and abuse others in attempts to heighten their tremendously fragile self-esteem are signals of narcissistic personality disorder, which is distinct from the trait of narcissism.

[@SaintBirdie]

What a lovely way to explore and describe this issue. A unique perspective. School of Life nails it Every Single Time 😊

[@AbudBakri]

Narcissism.... expecting people to like this comment because I'm cool 8)

[@ypsawbones3646]

Dr.StickFigure you have nice videos bruh and you are fucking everywhere (maybe common taste) ps are you really a doctor in real life?

[@AbudBakri]

I'm a medical student, doctor in the making.

[@ypsawbones3646]

Dr.StickFigure ah OK thx

[@chadatchison145]

ypsawbones 364 I see him everywhere as well lol, I finally checked out his vids a few days ago and subscribed. He needs to make more vids though. ;)

[@ypsawbones3646]

Chad Atchison well we intellectuals must be together :)

[@julianwhitee]

Unsubscribed

[@galeguy]

Why have you come here to say this? Do you seek approval from us strangers?

[@maha_sage]

Loving yourself is not narcissism. In the popular meaning today, having low self-esteem but still thinking oneself as superior is Narcissism.

[@Plasticplas1]

I have narcissistic tendencies. I try to be more humble but I tend to focus on myself and think of myself quite well.

[@wenjaminzhou]

If you truly loved yourself, you would never hurt another

[@uk7769]

ROFL. The illustrations are absolutely fantastic whoever drew them. The mom covering the kids eyes at 0:51 and kisses at 2:02 cracked me up. OMG too funny. Thank you!!!!!!

[@AirborneVet]

"Narcissism is the word we routinely use to describe someone self-satisfied and arrogant. But what do we really mean by the word - and are we applying it correctly?" Seems like a pretty good example.

[@gixellia8455]

Thank you for this clarifying presentation!