What is the Sonic Bible? - Sonic's BIZARRE Origin Story

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chaomix

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@chaomix
@chaomix Жыл бұрын
Do you think the Sonic Bible's origin story should be canon? Or is it better off forgotten about?
@awesomecat458
@awesomecat458 Жыл бұрын
I do like the idea of how sonic got his speed and why robotnik/eggman is evil, even though the early drafts were weird, this origin is really interesting so yeah
@jamiegioca9448
@jamiegioca9448 Жыл бұрын
This new thumbnail, man
@Chibiknux
@Chibiknux Жыл бұрын
Sonic and Eggman having their origins connected is a good concept but how is presented in the bible is kinda stupid. I don't like the idea of Eggman turning bad because of an experiment that went wrong, i prefer the Jim Carrey approach, where Robotnik's evil origins come from resenting his upbringing. My headcanon is (or at least was until the merging of worlds) Ivo was a human sent to Mobius as a baby like Goku. He was raised by a nasty mobian walrus lady and made fun of his eggshaped appearance all his childhood. He studied alot to prove his worth and gain societal respect and became a renowned scientist full of a secret resentment towards mobian/animal life.
@deprecated8036
@deprecated8036 Жыл бұрын
The origin story should just be left alone by itself and not be canon. It is weird and I wonder if the Japanese gave Sonic an origin story.
@Lonerfox14
@Lonerfox14 Жыл бұрын
I mean it's up to the writers if they wanna make it canon or not
@Cremotor
@Cremotor Жыл бұрын
Sonic Prime isn't about the multiverse, its about the "shatterverse" which is specifically the main sonic universe shattered into smaller versions. It's unrelated to actual parallel universes
@JeremyBelpoisX
@JeremyBelpoisX Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's sad...but a fan can always dream.
@Lemuel928
@Lemuel928 Жыл бұрын
Priest Sonic Kotomine?
@Urmum18169
@Urmum18169 Жыл бұрын
Sonic prime is yum good drink 👍
@gabeskai
@gabeskai Жыл бұрын
​@@Urmum18169mmm, prime is so good!
@betlergaen5757
@betlergaen5757 Жыл бұрын
But on the other hand, there was a tails tube that implied that the multiverse exists, and probably this would be the best outcome. This way Sonic media can explore different versions of the lore and do its own thing, so I think thats cool
@megajoecaco786
@megajoecaco786 Жыл бұрын
I want people in the future to discover this Sonic Bible and believe it was a legit religion and begin a Sonic The Hedgehog Cult
@IdentifiantE.S
@IdentifiantE.S Жыл бұрын
And at least it's a religious book with verifiable information 😶
@SomeSoonicGuy
@SomeSoonicGuy Жыл бұрын
I'd support this.
@lorddampnut5275
@lorddampnut5275 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that exactly what Chris Chan did?
@ColorsWasChit
@ColorsWasChit Жыл бұрын
@@IdentifiantE.S i will NOT go into an argument in a sonic youtube video comment section. i will NOT go into an argument in a sonic youtube video comment section.
@TheonlyExp3
@TheonlyExp3 Жыл бұрын
i'm happy with my life now that i know a sonic religion can be created.
@mechashadow
@mechashadow Жыл бұрын
Something that went unmentioned here is how I found out Sonic's backstory. As a kid, my friend lent me this story book which had art pages published by (Penguin Books?) which was a short story going over the same Kintobor story here with some pictures of Sonic, his previous form and Kintobor.
@CosmicSponge2004
@CosmicSponge2004 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. The American Sonic 1 Promo Comic (since it was made by SEGA of America) and the Fleetway Comics used the Kintobor stuff. Though for some reason didn't include Nebraska
@mechashadow
@mechashadow Жыл бұрын
@@CosmicSponge2004 It's not a Graphic Novel though just a Novel. Seriously, go look it up.
@TheBrotherGrim
@TheBrotherGrim Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had a novelization of the story when I was a kid. It was suuuuper weird.
@prosecutorwalton
@prosecutorwalton Жыл бұрын
@@mechashadow I wanna say that was Stay Sonic, right?
@succubastard1019
@succubastard1019 3 ай бұрын
@@CosmicSponge2004 They likely decided that it would have been better for Sonic to live in an original world with no relation to our own and that's how they came up with "Mobius". Although it's interesting that in the original draft of Sonic Bible the world of Sonic was also inhabited by humans aside from Robotnik/Kintobor, much like the Japanese Sonic universe.
@TrnskaDevelopmentTeam
@TrnskaDevelopmentTeam Жыл бұрын
Sonic's home planet's name in the movie was Mobius, which was confirmed in the official movie novelization. That means they keep refering to the Sonic Bible, even with this tiny pieces of the whole story.
@UltraEpicLeader10020
@UltraEpicLeader10020 Жыл бұрын
it lives on... somewhat.
@retrogamer6403
@retrogamer6403 Жыл бұрын
There was a crossover game that also called Sonic's world Mobius. I can't remember the name of it, but that was a big deal last year when it happen.
@ghoulchan7525
@ghoulchan7525 7 ай бұрын
isn't mobius also the name of the planet Sonic is from in SonicX?
@johnnygyro2295
@johnnygyro2295 5 ай бұрын
​@ghoulchan7525 As far as I can tell, Sonic's World is never given an outright name in Sonic X. That said, apparently, it and Earth used to be one world but were somehow separated?
@pizzacade8594
@pizzacade8594 Жыл бұрын
2:15 Believe it or not, but that squirrel, is the first appearance of Sally Acorn.
@Ender10zCyanOcto95
@Ender10zCyanOcto95 Жыл бұрын
True
@ZenithintheMaking
@ZenithintheMaking Жыл бұрын
You don't say....
@ItalysArtHouse
@ItalysArtHouse Жыл бұрын
No way that's so unbelievable and crazy and totally not obvious in any way whatsoever.
@Ender10zCyanOcto95
@Ender10zCyanOcto95 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if paramount might use sally in the movie I like to see to amy and sally being friends and not just fighting over sonic just being friends
@CosmicSponge2004
@CosmicSponge2004 Жыл бұрын
​@Ender10zCyanOcto95 They likely won't since they're already using Shadow and the Amy fanbase wouldn't let Amy NOT be in the movie. Paramount won't just add a whole bunch of Sonic Characters, let alone one that hasn't been used in 6 Years
@agentomecha634
@agentomecha634 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know something like this existed. The idea that the Chaos Emeralds used to serve as vessels of negative energy help explain why Super Sonic in the Fleetway Comics was evil. “🌈The More You Know.⭐️”
@80abonnessansvideosdu42
@80abonnessansvideosdu42 Жыл бұрын
why rainbows?
@agentomecha634
@agentomecha634 Жыл бұрын
@@80abonnessansvideosdu42 It’s a reference to the old “The More you Know” logo.
@Father_Venti
@Father_Venti Жыл бұрын
​@@80abonnessansvideosdu42It means his statement is gay 😮
@Hugo-yz1vb
@Hugo-yz1vb Жыл бұрын
​@@Father_VentiNO NOT THE STATEMENTS FIRST THE FROGS AND NOW THIS?! AHHHHHHHHH- *Dies of cringe*
@lesinge8868
@lesinge8868 Жыл бұрын
Careful! You might summon the FNF fans who think his name is Fleetway.
@RosyKitteh
@RosyKitteh Жыл бұрын
8:36 Okay, so that's basically the Anti-Robotnik from the Archie comics. The Anti-Sonic polluted the planet, he tried to clean up the planet and ran a veterinary clinic to help the animals. I didn’t expect to learn something about the comics in this video, but this was actually exactly something I needed to help write the current arc in my fanfiction which takes place in the Anti-Mobius
@drcoolcabbage
@drcoolcabbage Жыл бұрын
12:02 You forgot the best one. Joe Sushi apparently taught Sonic how to swim. WELL YOU DID A REAL BANG-UP JOB ON THAT ONE, DIDN'T YOU, JOE?
@AbsnormalCoolest
@AbsnormalCoolest 8 ай бұрын
which one is joe sushi i forgot he existed and i have never seen anyone who could be joe sushi
@Axxidous
@Axxidous Жыл бұрын
I've been hearing of 2 versions of the Sonic bible. 1 being the series bible, the thing that gets updated and dictates the direction everyone should take when creating the series to maintain somewhat consistency amongst different groups of people who come and go throughout working on the series. The other being this obsolete origin story.
@chaomix
@chaomix Жыл бұрын
Draft 3 of the Sonic Bible actually contains both of these things: the bizarre backstory and then also the guidelines for licensees using the brand. I just didn’t go over that part because it wasn’t that interesting lol.
@b.h.8137
@b.h.8137 Жыл бұрын
I love the "origin story" (or should I say background story) with the pilot the most. I rarely ever hear people talk about it.
@NoNeckKota
@NoNeckKota Жыл бұрын
It shows how much care the community and fans had, usually moreso that developers after the Genesis era. Maurice would be proud.
@Gaia_BentosZX5
@Gaia_BentosZX5 Жыл бұрын
Also note that Shadow's ENTIRE ORIGN STORY strongly resembles that of the original Sonic Bible in the US. Sonic and Eggman once good friends turned enemies. Dr. Gerald being Kintobor and Shadow being Sonic.
@jamiegioca9448
@jamiegioca9448 Жыл бұрын
Who?
@AbsnormalCoolest
@AbsnormalCoolest 8 ай бұрын
@@Gaia_BentosZX5couldve sworn his name was geralt
@supersonicds7658
@supersonicds7658 Жыл бұрын
I would like to think that Sonic Prime is cannon but it doesn't take place in the mainline game universe because that way it would explain the big plot holes that are in the show and why prime Sonic acts completely different from game Sonic.
@themissingbits6375
@themissingbits6375 Жыл бұрын
It does need to be mentioned that While the Archie Sonic comic had many western Sonic influences in the world of that comic… that sorta changed later on when the comic Got rebooted by the Super-Genesis Wave. Where the Canon was heavily relied on the game lore. With some diffrences (Freedom Fighters and some western Sonic stuff). And This is why I get a little pissed when people don’t know that ever since that the comic Got rebooted… people still don’t know that the planet is no longer Mobius in This new contunity in the Archie Sonic comics.
@tracytron7162
@tracytron7162 Жыл бұрын
Hell it became more like the games long before that really, from the events of Adventure 2 onwards most of the events of the games could be slotted into place in the archie comics easily
@themissingbits6375
@themissingbits6375 Жыл бұрын
Uh… What are you talking about. The SA2 adaptation takes place in the middle of the “Overlander Saga” and the stories after bulid off from What came before from the comic.
@retrogamer6403
@retrogamer6403 Жыл бұрын
What's weird about this is the animals are still call Mobians which makes no sense because Mobians was a term they use to describe the people of Mobius. If the world isn't called Mobius, than why isn't Mobian a retired term?
@tracytron7162
@tracytron7162 Жыл бұрын
@@retrogamer6403 It... It is... SEGA of Japan hasn't EVER used the word and have forbid SEGA of America from using it, it's only ever mentioned in half-assed reference books that aren't actually from SEGA themselves
@Solesteam
@Solesteam Жыл бұрын
13:38 Sega of America: *_An entire thesis and over explanation of every minor detail of the sonic universe_* Sega of Japan: Evil industrialist attacks worlds fastest hedgehog.
@Solesteam
@Solesteam Жыл бұрын
17:38 I still call the anthropomorphic animal characters Mobians, since there isn't an official naming category for them, they're just called whatever species they resemble ex. Hedgehog, fox, echidna...
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's way shorter, catchier and clear than other alternatives (that I can think of)
@Axxidous
@Axxidous Жыл бұрын
Also I am not really a fan of people stating TailsTube tied up inconsistencies and loose ends. They ACTUALLY just reminded fans that there was a hint of consistency there already but just needed to be explained because they weren't good at explaining it before. Most of the stuff said in TailsTube are things I already knew, but was probably new to casual fans.
@MrNeedleM0use
@MrNeedleM0use Жыл бұрын
Man, the Sonic franchise would be in a much worse state without Ian Flynn. Thank god he’s writing Sonic games now.
@MrNeedleM0use
@MrNeedleM0use Жыл бұрын
@kian7406 I am inclined to agree. IDW is some of the best characterization for these character we’ve ever had.
@themissingbits6375
@themissingbits6375 Жыл бұрын
I kinda dissagre on that. While I do Think he has made some good stories in the Archie days as an example… I don’t Think his writing fits the Sonic Series. All the characthers feels so off to me, the Way he writes them don’t feel like the characters to me. When Sonic says things, I’m like “Sonic does not talk or acts like that”. Same with the type of stories he makes, it very Superhero-ISH which in my opinion don’t feel like Sonic to me. Sonic is an Adventure, not a Superhero. I’m not a fan that he tries to put some Marvel-Ish humor to the comic. Like, Most Sonic games weren’t trying to be comedic. Yes there was an amusing moment here and there, with some comedic reliefs characthers like Big or the Chaotix, and that stuff is fine. But when you look at stuff like Black Knight or SA2, the stories weren’t trying to be serious While also make jokes in these serious moments. I do Think he is cabeable at making good stories, but I don’t Think he can make Actual Sonic stories.
@ZenithintheMaking
@ZenithintheMaking Жыл бұрын
He couldn't have done it alone. It's thanks to the power of all of them working together (I think. Also I'm not cringy).
@80abonnessansvideosdu42
@80abonnessansvideosdu42 Жыл бұрын
@@MrNeedleM0use I mean Ian Flynn didn't write Frontiers he was just writing the dialogue
@Lonerfox14
@Lonerfox14 Жыл бұрын
​@@themissingbits6375To be honest I don't really mind how the characters are written today, the only characters writings that I have issues with are Amy and Shadow. Yes I'm pretty sure they were trying to go with a more mature Amy but It's kind of sad because I'm not used to it, but it's good that she still has that independent side and I guess it can be for whatever floats the shippers' boats. Shadow's writing however is just downright off and it makes me feel like whoever was responisble that Shadow was written the way he is currently, I kind of feel like they forgot who Shadow was supposed to be.
@giroandkarin2822
@giroandkarin2822 Жыл бұрын
3:54 Wait, Warp of Confusion? Isn't that also a location in the AOSTH series where Eggman banished his cousin to?
@AylaAndAlly
@AylaAndAlly Жыл бұрын
Ya I thought of that too lol
@adonaymiranda2168
@adonaymiranda2168 Жыл бұрын
Your visual interpretation of the first Bible had me laughing and dying so hard.
@yona3271
@yona3271 Жыл бұрын
canon story : sonic comes from christmas island and he is a adventurous dude with some cool actions. USA story : sonic is a cocky hedgehog who will do anything for his friends. fleetway story : sonic who is even cockier and has problems with expressing his feelings. archie story : a sonic who will make sure his friends are safe and will try to destroy the will of his enemies. those are the versions of sonic that we know and I recommend you guys read fleetway because it is amazing.
@Cyborgmonkey145
@Cyborgmonkey145 Жыл бұрын
Manga story: Nikki is a shy nerd trying to become more confident, and when the need calls for him, he transforms into Sonic. Original story: Sonic is a fictional character created by Mary Garnet to tell stories to her daughter and her friends.
@yona3271
@yona3271 Жыл бұрын
@@Cyborgmonkey145 yes but this is version that is not well-known but thx cuz i forgot to add that.
@BasementDweller_
@BasementDweller_ Жыл бұрын
I remember reading the Sonic Bible in class one day with a friend of mine. Good times.
@Solesteam
@Solesteam Жыл бұрын
18:19 Does this mean Fleetway and Archie comics inhabit separate universes? Perhaps Each Universe is kept by a independent Paradox prism... Prime Sonic being the most default of all the Sonics (Even compared to the game Sonic who now has ranged attacks and the still unexplained cyloop)
@jackbluepirate87
@jackbluepirate87 Жыл бұрын
And on the Fifth Day the lord said "What you see is what you get, Just a guy who loves adventure! I'm Sonic! Sonic The Hedgehog!"
@alexnocraphole
@alexnocraphole Жыл бұрын
A detail you missed, the Bible refers to the Special Stage as the Warp of Confusion, whose name was reused for the AOStH episode "Trail of the Missing Tails".
@Pingwn
@Pingwn 7 ай бұрын
OK, but we have to agree that Mobius is a sick name for Sonic's world.
@CometX-ing
@CometX-ing Жыл бұрын
Sonic lore still makes no sense because you have stuff like IDW and Prime being canon but having inconsistencies with the games and games are just being deemed non-canon by Ian but re-canonized by Sega.
@RadikAlice
@RadikAlice Жыл бұрын
I was no stranger to this, or the broad strokes. I get the feeling movie Sonic living in a fictional town in Montana was inspired by the draft where Sonic is from Nebraska. Also, the fact that they renamed the penguin to Tux is extra funny to me. Because it means I can say the mascot of Linux is canon to Sonic. And mind you, the Linux kernel was already around by 1991. Not mainstream, but still. Kinda funny
@JaredtheRabbit
@JaredtheRabbit Жыл бұрын
The continuity I created for myself is a combination of the canon we have now and the first draft of the Sonic Bible.
@Solesteam
@Solesteam Жыл бұрын
It would have been awesome of the two Sonic's met in a crossover game, where some overexplained absurdity happens in the comic world that leaks over to the game world requiring you to use game sonic's much more limited abilites to defeat a foe beyond the scope of what he normally faces...
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fun (or possibly frustrating) fangame.
@CrystalGreymon
@CrystalGreymon Жыл бұрын
​@@robertlupa8273That's EXACTLY what it sounds like.
@Strange_Brain
@Strange_Brain Жыл бұрын
this video was alot of fun to watch. Well done chaomix
@UltraCenterHQ
@UltraCenterHQ Жыл бұрын
5:32 I mean, it makes sense though. He needs all of that since he's constantly draining his energy
@mushroomdude123
@mushroomdude123 Жыл бұрын
What would’ve happened if Kintober hadn’t been holding that egg? He would’ve become Dr. Man.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 Жыл бұрын
He wouldn’t be Egg the Man in that case.
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Evil or Dr. Chaos is my guess.
@snickrdoodle_skywalker
@snickrdoodle_skywalker Жыл бұрын
BAH hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahaha
@TheMysticObservatory
@TheMysticObservatory Жыл бұрын
Well tbh, Everything in Sonic the Hedgehog is not canon because of one game. Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood! Due to multiple lawsuits from Ken Penders like the Nocturnus Clan looking too similar to his own characters, they never made a sequel and they said that it's not canon. Another thing to note is that Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric originally known as Sonic Synergy was going to feature a backstory of Sonic the Hedgehog. But unfortunately SEGA disapproved of it due to the fact that they wanted to tell his origin story themselves. Especially disapproving more scientists and only have Tails and Eggman. Even disapproving having more Hedgehogs and Echidnas. That's just messed up. up
@1Hol1Tiger
@1Hol1Tiger 5 ай бұрын
Sonic will always be from Mobius and battle Robotnik in my book
@austinfuller8323
@austinfuller8323 7 ай бұрын
Holy shit... So Dr.Robotnick is not only the creator essentially of Sonic, but the catalyst of why hes Blue?? Mind=Blown
@gregtom3272
@gregtom3272 Жыл бұрын
also c'mon , you barely scratched the surface of the japanese canon and how a lot of infformattion of japanese manuals of games that is sonic 2, sonic 3 , and knuckles chaotix relates to the echidna lore in sonic adventure , you need to see english translations of those manuals in sonic retro , seriously i have no idea why people keep ignoring that lore
@MistaBrandoVA
@MistaBrandoVA Жыл бұрын
There’s something so silly and stupid about Eggman and Sonic just dropping their incredible experiments to get lunch and fusing with a rotten egg lmfao
@javaboygames02
@javaboygames02 Жыл бұрын
The best thing to do is put everything (that is possible) togheter in harmony, making sense to every aspect in Sonic's oringins. For example: The reason Sally Acorn being Sonic's friend and falling in love with him is due to Sonic saving her from being a badnik when she was a little child (back in Sonic 1). This implies two things: Sonic is a bit older than Sally, there is a age gap beetween them. And second, the little animals Sonic saves are Mobian babies.
@ketchthesehands4642
@ketchthesehands4642 Жыл бұрын
I think the idea that sonic and friends live on a completely different planet just works better than them living on earth
@elmemearana
@elmemearana Жыл бұрын
Well, it can be a different Earth from the Earth we live on. It makes more sense, at least.
@JeremyBelpoisX
@JeremyBelpoisX Жыл бұрын
I think that's why Sonic X was such a slam hit.
@stephaniejohnson5361
@stephaniejohnson5361 Жыл бұрын
i used to think that too but i grew to like the idea that instead of earth being only humans its also shared with Anthropomorphic animals, Sky yeti, Cyber water people, and other species. it makes world building more interesting then compared to if it was two seperate planets where earth would be kinda boring compared to morbius
@MangoesBangoesicup
@MangoesBangoesicup Жыл бұрын
i disagree i like the idea of having other life forms living and coexisting with Anthropomorphic animals
@ketchthesehands4642
@ketchthesehands4642 Жыл бұрын
@@MangoesBangoesicup I just feel like the story works better with eggman discovering their planet while searching for the chaos emeralds and wanting to build his empire there, steal the chaos emeralds, kidnap flickies, etc.
@thesoupestsoupio7721
@thesoupestsoupio7721 Жыл бұрын
My ideal Sonic Canon Would Call The Planet Mobius But The Lore Is Mostly Based On The Japanese Canon And The Games. And The Anthros Would Live In Islands While The Humans Would Live In Continents.
@austinfuller8323
@austinfuller8323 7 ай бұрын
Draft One of the Sonic Origin Bible or story whatever it's called, literally had me Lol'ing , a half eaten egg and the Chaos Emeralds being quantified into his DNA and essence, reversing his name to Robotnick... Some pretty unhinged stuff lmao
@HaitaniMasayuki
@HaitaniMasayuki Жыл бұрын
even back then as a kid I couldn't get over the fact that 14:44, they just forgot to draw "brown" Sonic's ears lol
@Dank_Vibes
@Dank_Vibes Жыл бұрын
Do you have time to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Sonic The hedgehog?
@johnnypollack3243
@johnnypollack3243 Жыл бұрын
Love the video and keep up the great work chaomix
@gunman8452
@gunman8452 Жыл бұрын
The book of our Lord and Saviour, The Sonic The Hedgehog
@juliemesser2053
@juliemesser2053 Жыл бұрын
No,it's Jesus Christ!!😄😆
@Speedgamerpro69
@Speedgamerpro69 3 ай бұрын
​@@juliemesser2053no it's sonic
@KOTEBANAROT
@KOTEBANAROT 5 ай бұрын
I wish you went a little deeper into SoJ lore, it has some wacky stuff too. But when it came to games, they state something fun - that Eggman and Sonic already knew each other before Sonic 1, except Sonic never took him seriously before then - apparently Eggman really sucked at being a villain at first! To the point that Sonic felt kind of an affection to him, like he was his goofy playmate. This puts Sonic's line "youve turned into a big time villain, doctor!" in SA2 into certain perspective. Eggman finally proved to Sonic what a threat he couod be. Additionally, in japanese version, when Eggman fires at the moon, Sonic says: "He's way over his head!" meaning, he thought Eggman doesn't even understand what hes doing and what trouble he puts himself into. Sonic's cockiness to Eggman is more like a paternalistic outlook, he still saw him as that goofy guy who failed his plans before Sonic 1. Well, anyway, thats my headcanon i guess.
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: In Archie Comics There Is An Universe Named "The In Another Time, In Another Place" looks similar to Mobius Prime, sharing the same inhabitants (such as Sonic the Hedgehog and Dr. Eggman) and locations (such as Green Hill Zone and Little Planet). However, the story of the In Another Time, In Another Place follows more closely that from the mainline Sonic the Hedgehog video game titles, serving as adaptations for that series' video games, sharing events that include, but are not limited to, the Little Planet incident and the Time Eater incident Lol (Yeah Game Universe Literally Does Exist As A Paralel Universe For Archie's Universe (Also Called Prime Zone)
@swmedia2
@swmedia2 Жыл бұрын
Great video. The question I'm left after all this is where Sonic X fits into all of this, since in that continuity there are two separate worlds, earth and Sonic's world, which seems to be different from how the games are, where humans and sentient animals share one world, although humans barring Eggman haven't been in a main series Sonic game since Unleashed as far as I know.
@arlokraft
@arlokraft Жыл бұрын
Sonic X would likely be on similar terms to the Movie since Sonic is from a different planet and thus those 2 continuities are different universes but are still canon
@nomadspeed
@nomadspeed Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that while Sonic X isn't canon, certain elements are.
@randomwolfygirl
@randomwolfygirl Жыл бұрын
Yah, and isn't Mobius like the future version of Earth? I may be mistaken but I swear I have heard that Mobius is just the future for Earth.
@nomadspeed
@nomadspeed Жыл бұрын
@@randomwolfygirl In the Archie Comics, Mobius is the post-apocalyptic version of Earth.
@stickdudethesticktopian
@stickdudethesticktopian Жыл бұрын
This is extremely interesting and awesome to me I never knew that much about this.
@TheGreatSayaMan0212
@TheGreatSayaMan0212 8 ай бұрын
18:22 everything is canon doesn’t exactly mean everything is canon to one continuity. We haven’t heard of that or not yet. They definitely wouldn’t make boom canon right? RIGHT?
@thesmilingman7576
@thesmilingman7576 Жыл бұрын
0:47 nice how almost all of them ignore it (except the Fleetway comics)
@obamius4521
@obamius4521 Жыл бұрын
I have my own canon for different regions. Or more like a fanon than canon. US canon: Archie comics. Cartoons and manuals are alternate realities. JP canon: Sonic X. Manga,OVA and manuals are alternate realities. I also include Sonic Omens for continuity for Sonic X. EU canon: Sonic the comic. The manuals are alternate realities. I also include sonic the comic online for this one. Modern canon: All of the games and idw comics. Some spinoffs like sonic chronicles are different realities. You can also make up your timeline because sonic isn't zelda and it would make sense.
@justinarzola4584
@justinarzola4584 Жыл бұрын
It reminds of transformers where there's US,European, Japanese and modern aligned canon.
@EpicFurbynerd76YO
@EpicFurbynerd76YO 8 ай бұрын
I believe in the original USA lore, and Sonic the Comic
@KookieStar
@KookieStar Жыл бұрын
Aka, the Sonic Encyclo-speed-ia lol
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark Жыл бұрын
For some reason, the idea of Sonic dealing with something in Hardy Nebraska of all places is kinda funny to me.
@real.exotic
@real.exotic Жыл бұрын
finally new chaomix video lets goooo
@WorldsLaziestYoutuber
@WorldsLaziestYoutuber Жыл бұрын
Super sonic: 😃 Fleet way super sonic:💀
@sufi09853
@sufi09853 Жыл бұрын
I think how Sega is doing Sonic lore by saying everything is cannon through different dimensions is very interesting and fun to think about. Because if your an Archie fan and if you love the Sonic Archie comics then good news for you, that world and it's characters you love could be in another dimension. Same thing with the cartoon versions of Sonic. Sonic Underground, The adventures of Sonic the hedgehog, Sonic Satam, Sonic X and the Sonic Boom cartoon too. And for me, I always like to imagine that Sonic. exe can exist in a different dimension and not in the real Sonic timeline. Plus with Fleetway Super Sonic in the fleetway comics I want to imagine the same thing too. 😊👍 Besides I love the idea of different dimensions and alternate realities in fiction. Its always something that makes your fictional stories interesting and existing for people that love your fictional characters.
@Dr.Mlieko
@Dr.Mlieko 3 ай бұрын
The funniy thing is, Porker Lewis was actually a major character in the UK's Sonic the Comic, which actually stuck much closer to the Sonic Bible than the Sonic the Hedgehog comic by Archie that followd to continuity of Sonic SatAM
@soufianegamerpro
@soufianegamerpro Жыл бұрын
this is the same storyline in the fleetway comics
@Scigam243
@Scigam243 Ай бұрын
I immediately knew when he said "son of a glitch" that they were trying to sneak in a bit of an adult joke. Clever
@thesmilingman7576
@thesmilingman7576 Жыл бұрын
8:42 of this is the first draft then i'm glad whoever was the writer for Sonic 2 decided to adopt the seventh emerald into the JPN lore
@PopularNoise
@PopularNoise 8 ай бұрын
this my fav sonic channel of all time just have to say it
@thedredayshow9246
@thedredayshow9246 Жыл бұрын
All I knew is he was born on Christmas Island. An island in Australia. Sonic was an Aussie...
@ironpiyepic2666
@ironpiyepic2666 Жыл бұрын
Someone has NOT read the archie comics. At this point, more sonic stuff is based off archie and American content then Japanese
@MadWinter889
@MadWinter889 Жыл бұрын
Chaomix's animation of Sonic throughout this retelling is on a par with Sega.
@thesmilingman7576
@thesmilingman7576 Жыл бұрын
17:29 well when you have a game where Robotnik takes over the world and the show the that the Freedom Fighters debuted in's premise is that Robotnik takes over the world you kind of expect them to appear
@LunDruid
@LunDruid 13 күн бұрын
Due to the concurrently running shows of AoSTH and SatAM, both with wildly different lores from both each other and the games, Sonic has always been a multiversal franchise to me.
@AuraSparks
@AuraSparks Жыл бұрын
Chaomix vids only get better
@toamatoro570
@toamatoro570 Жыл бұрын
Surprised the Sonic Bible doesn't start with the book of Sega Genesis.
@SaddieMoon
@SaddieMoon Жыл бұрын
2:31 “*Geeks out” “But that’s cliché.” “God knows, that’s far from your goal.”
@girandpiggy95
@girandpiggy95 Жыл бұрын
the sound effects really made this video
@sugsaltacc3586
@sugsaltacc3586 Жыл бұрын
18:14 ”Sonic, you wanna go get a hamburger??? No, little buddy. HOW BOUT A CHILIDAUG!!! SONI- *gulp* *gulp* *gulp*.”
@DSK_Terrence_Official
@DSK_Terrence_Official Жыл бұрын
I call Sonic’s planet, Mobius
@user-some_failure
@user-some_failure Жыл бұрын
If everything is canon then Peter Griffin is canon to sonic
@El_Cl4ssic
@El_Cl4ssic Жыл бұрын
Chaomix is the best 😎, nice vid, I love these videos :)
@benjaminaleman4003
@benjaminaleman4003 Жыл бұрын
The sonic lore is a mess now. Dont get me wrong, before sonic frontiers there were some issues in games like shadow the hedgehog, but that wasnt a big deal. Now the lore has like 3 "canon continuations to sonic forces and neither of those have sense in the same universe. The strange part is that I dont know who to blame for this. Was iizuka's fault? was a sega directive's fault? It would be interesting to know, but to end this comment I have to say that the sonic's multimedia canon idea can work, but right now has a poor execution.
@anthonysmith3415
@anthonysmith3415 Жыл бұрын
A: Sonic Prime is not a true multiverse, it's just Sonic's original world shattered into multiple off shoots because he shattered the Paradox Prism and split his world into multiple worlds, these worlds did not exist before he shattered his universe, meaning Sonic Prime is not true Multiverse Travel, if it was then the normal world would be ok and we'd see Sonic travel to pre existing continuities like Boom or Underground B: if you want proof of this theory, we dont see any versions of Sonic or Shadow because they were either the cause of the incident or escaped it meaning they weren't shattered into multiple versions of themselves (so how would you expect to see any of the other continuities that have Sonic or Shadow in them if the worlds we see clearly DONT have them in any!!!!) C: dont just throw things out like they're fact without paying attention to the show all the pieces are clearly there, you're spreading misinformation D: big fan of the show, this wasn't meant to come off as rude just disappointed that you didn't realize this yourself is all
@Kooky95
@Kooky95 Жыл бұрын
I mean sonic literally says “eggman didn’t create this world, I did” so that’s pretty much enough evidence I feel like. But u provided good evidence to.
@anthonysmith3415
@anthonysmith3415 Жыл бұрын
@@Kooky95 thank you, just get annoyed by people not understanding this very simple obvious thing that requires a little bit of attention
@anthonysmith3415
@anthonysmith3415 Жыл бұрын
@@Kooky95 @chamix TOTALLY CALLED IT, this is not true multiverses it's just Sonic's world shattered I say this in the most respectful way "DO BETTER with your research, attention skills and dont spread misinformation" kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2Oqop5viZignKM
@SamuelNokes-booth
@SamuelNokes-booth Жыл бұрын
My guy I would become religious for sonic the hedgehog 😂
@sossisthenotsossig
@sossisthenotsossig Жыл бұрын
I’m really starting to see the dragon ball style in your art more and I love it. You should try broadening your horizons and also try covering some DB stuff!
@SpeedBird6780
@SpeedBird6780 Жыл бұрын
Could you tell us about the Japanese origin story with Christmas Island/Kiritimati?
@Ali-ii8il
@Ali-ii8il 5 ай бұрын
making the IDW Sonic comics was a big Mistake
@Get_b3nt_2
@Get_b3nt_2 Жыл бұрын
“Ummm actually it’s kint-o-bor not kint-ober 🤓”
@cubehead8046
@cubehead8046 Жыл бұрын
Real people remember when the thumbnail was an actual Sonic bible
@MJGaming57_REAL
@MJGaming57_REAL Жыл бұрын
I really want them to go with a multiverse instead of having prime be canon to the games
@BagelNosed3DSuser
@BagelNosed3DSuser Жыл бұрын
“Pray to the blue blur before bed”
@ethansloan
@ethansloan Жыл бұрын
Are we not going to talk about how the first thing Sonic said upon admiring his new, blue body was "Rico Suave"?
@howard291
@howard291 7 ай бұрын
Honestly i didn't know there was a sonic bible i thought it was interesting 🤔 but i have heard of the archie comics and i wasnt sure if both are cannon
@tomcurl8034
@tomcurl8034 3 ай бұрын
I’d love it if they did a reboot of sonic Saturday a.m. with higher production values and writing by Ian Flynn and maybe they can even get some of the old actors like Jaleel, White and Jim Cummings to come back to reprise their roles
@oodven
@oodven Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail got some glow up
@andymcmillan2193
@andymcmillan2193 8 ай бұрын
I wanted to combine most of the sonic media referencing everything such as shows, comics, even GOOD GENUINE fan content here and there in a fan series! The progress thus far was...em...going somewhere...but yea, this is all making my head spin dash.
@jaylenbutler899
@jaylenbutler899 Жыл бұрын
Your new thumbnail tricked me into thinking that this is a new video.
@tripplejaz
@tripplejaz Жыл бұрын
If there's a Sonic Bible, are there Sonic heretics? 🤔
@Headshotnoby
@Headshotnoby Жыл бұрын
5:54 that name's gotta be a coincidence... right?
@SerialDesignationO
@SerialDesignationO Жыл бұрын
7:12-7:20 That's an adorable name for child Sonic. BUT WHAT THE HECK WAS HIS MOTHER DOING? ARE HIS SISTERS QUINTUPLETS?
@djdarkskinss6415
@djdarkskinss6415 Жыл бұрын
These origins story is getting very weird but still interesting I rather have a unknown fast hedgehog came South Island to save animals from robots or he was raised by owls as a warrior(LongClaw reference)
@plasmaemerald8407
@plasmaemerald8407 Жыл бұрын
Imagine going to a religious club showcasing your religions and bibles and when it’s your turn to showcase you pull out “The Sonic Bible” and start talking about the entire Sonic The Hedgehog lore💀
@cg_spiritedensemble
@cg_spiritedensemble Жыл бұрын
*Cartoon Running Sounds Go WOOOOOSH*
@Chibiknux
@Chibiknux Жыл бұрын
So much of Sonic was made just out of marketing instead of a single vision coming from one creative mind. Its both a curse and a blessing. Despite his origins, the Sonic IP is a vessel for their fans' creativity. So much of what makes Sonic great was born through collective fan work enticed by his design and weird world. What is your interpretation of Sonic's lore and world? Mine is as follows, I'll make it brief. Sonic is from Mobius, a planet inhabited by anthropomorphic animals, and one strange furless, eggshaped creature that came from another world. Ivo was raised by a walrus lady, and despite his weird appearance became very smart and a well known scientist. His inventions have elevated mobian lifestyle to new standards but also polluted the once nature ruled Mobius. Has the doctor the best of intentions to help mobian society or is his heart full of resentment towards animal life? Nikki is an athletic hedgehog who isn't very fond of Eggman and rebels against his technological empire using the name Sonic
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 Жыл бұрын
> Eggman was raised by a walrus It all comes together.
@johnnygyro2295
@johnnygyro2295 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your version of the Sonic-verse might play out similar to Sonic X at some point, with Sonic and Eggman traveling back and forth from Mobius and Earth. Admittedly, my version would start similar to the movies with Sonic being raised by Longclaw and coming to Earth and Robotnik being a former scientist of GUN before going rogue. The twist would be that Robotnik pretends to befriend Sonic to try and get him to power the ROCC, which he claims would eliminate all evil. Sonic and Tom find out it's instead a Robotizing Orbital Chaos Cannon to roboticize all life on Earth in one shot. Sonic thwarts Robotnik, becoming a hero in the public eye. I'm not sure how the rest would go, though.
@Chibiknux
@Chibiknux Жыл бұрын
@@johnnygyro2295 that's right! When the two worlds canon was changed as one single planet all my headcanons crumbled. I like your headcanon as much as I like movie Robotnik. But to me, Eggman should be the fish out of the water instead of Sonic. I'm currently trying to rewrite every Sonic game from 1 up until 06 making sense of it all without changing much, and one story beat I found very cool was Eggman finally arriving at Earth and facing rejection from his human peers as well because he grew up in Mobius. It would be both very cool and heartbreaking. I think the ROCC and robotization in general is such a cool concept, it makes Robotnik so much menacing cuz being robotized is an outcome worse than dying. Keep bringing more lore interpretations!
@johnnygyro2295
@johnnygyro2295 Жыл бұрын
​@Chibiknux I do have more lore ideas, but they're not set in stone. Partly because I'm trying to avoid contradicting myself and partly because they could lead to crossovers. I'm tempted to write a couple of crossover/shared universe fanfics since others have in the past, but here are a few ideas: 1. Surge and Kit start to chill out after meeting and hanging out with Shadow, who has experience being amnesiac and mind controlled. 2. Admittedly, someone else came up with this one first, but it's too interesting to ignore. If/when Eggman kicks the bucket at some point in the future, SAGE will become the new Empress of the Eggman Empire. In some ways, she's more dangerous than her dad since, being an AI, she's near immortal and can transfer herself to different bodies. 3. Crash Bandicoot and Sly Cooper are in the same universe. Neo Cortex was rivals with Eggman back when they went to villain school/college and Clockwerk was an exile of the Owl Tribe/Babylon Rogues.
@that1weirdkid643
@that1weirdkid643 Жыл бұрын
Yeeaa lesgoo sonic Bible, The power of sega compels you! The power of sega compels you! Pray in the name of Sonic! And drink some holy emerald water
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