What Is The Virtue And Vice Of ENTJs? | Altruism Vs. Avarice | CS Joseph

What is the virtue and vice of ENTJs? CS Joseph explores Altruism Vs. Avarice.
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[@dairdb]

As an entj, i dont believe our greed for return is our biggest vice. I think that is our defense to our biggest vice. I truly believe our biggest vice genuine emotional connection. Most entjs are taken advantage of, which develops the return on investment defense to protect our fragile Fi

[@CSJoseph]

well said

[@karismoffat1968]

Perfect

[@gabepetro358]

Truth

[@naturalinstinct4950]

man that's so true. we want love and appreciation yet we show them emotions at first place

[@jackyp1893]

This is right on the money.

[@juliamuszynska2145]

The moment you click on the video thinking you won’t hear anything knew about your personality type and then a person who doesn’t even know you actually explains to you how your mind works. And It’s freaking accurate. I appreciate it.

[@CSJoseph]

Awesome!

[@antares1233062]

Interesting... I'm an ENTJ and I HATE having to ask for borrowed money back... To the point that I just don't. But I do expect loyalty.

[@madrox231]

You're far too needy dude. I don't hate asking for anything owed to me. It's owed pay up or shut up. Also asking this dude for a how to guide is ridiculous. Make one yourself, find your own path. What are doing dude? No one knows you, and no one knows how you should live and act. Nut up or shut up man. Stop asking for advice. Start giving it.

[@Ultima013]

I'm the same and I hate when I truly need it and gotta remind people about it..

[@janine7418]

Often times, when a black business owner whom DJT had given a loan to came back with the $$ he had agreed to pay him, DJT would ask him how the business was going? Upon hearing that his investment was well recieved and the business was doing well, he would tear up the check andvtell them to keep up the good work... You won't hear anything about this side of Donald Trump. And yes, I say, "Black Business owners" because in the 60's and 70's commercial banks would refuse loans to African American business owners...but you won't hear this on the MSM will you. Do the research.

[@user-lm4bv1gh7u]

@@madrox231 well why are you here then if you do not want advice?

[@thoarnejones6805]

Same, it's always very uncomfortable. Especially with family.

[@davidmaldonado2198]

I'm ENTJ and Iove being generous with smart people but my way to get even is way deeper than just money I "own them" in friendship and love they always end up giving way more than I did. In the end is way more fair than what it looks and by far more powerful.

[@theresefrancis9283]

I'm an ISFP and my sister's father in law is an ENTJ. He is one of the best people you will ever meet. We get along super well. The whole resources thing is very true.

[@putritd3230]

This explains what just happened yesterday. I just got mad at people for not replied my text asap at the moment when I truly needed it. And at people who don't value the generosity that I have given to them. They seek help at me a lot of times, but when I was the one asked them things (the smallest thing, just a simple question), they didn't do the same thing like what I did for them. I felt like I was being used and betrayed. This video helps me understand how my personality works. Awesome work, dude.

[@guesswho8244]

omg! i had exactly the same situation a month ago. a close friend. i train myself to be stoic. however, i don't count this person as a friend anymore. not mad, but not everyone is capable of the same qualities, they just don't have the resources and it is alright. we help others not for a return, but because it is who we are, will not change that about myself

[@AnnaSoll99]

This happened to me…I had a close friend and when I was going through a really hard time and needed someone to be with me and like make me feel better, they weren’t. They walked away to be with other people instead. I can’t focus on how betrayed I feel enough. Kinda ended up hating them a little. Still trying to get over it.

[@antares1233062]

If you are writing a book, I would love lists of condensed info. Example: 10 things ENTJ's can do to improve their lives. Or How ENTJ's can improve their relationships. Short actionable advice. Not to say the longer stuff isn't good, sometimes you don't have the time to dig deep and just want something to implement now.

[@CSJoseph]

Justin Miller I’ll take your suggestion on the book under advisement. As for providing a more direct solution that can cut short the time required to learn and absorb, that will come after I have laid the foundation of all the material and for now we have to suffer with the lengthy material. But once traction is acquired, I will focus on the bullet points through other materials.

[@antares1233062]

I don't mean you should not have the longer deeper stuff. Have the short stuff to get you pulled in or for short reads, and the deeper stuff for when you want to get to the nitty gritty things.

[@CSJoseph]

Justin Miller not going to happen until I have a staff with whom I can delegate tasks. Regardless, I very much appreciate the advice

[@antares1233062]

Well regardless, keep doing what your doing. Thanks for the great info in the videos :)

[@karismoffat1968]

@@CSJoseph Or perhaps a series of audio books/ebooks on tips for each personality type, as we all have totally different strengths/weaknesses and an effective approach changes from type to type.

[@NaifRumayli]

I have an entj friend , he is very generous , I never asked him for anything he always give with out asking and sometimes I refuse because it's too much , one day he told me that he wants me to travel with him in vacation for free ! And I refused that . I'm an entp by the way.

[@antares1233062]

An ENTJ normally wouldn't ask if he doesn't mean it. Maybe he wanted you to go along on said vacation 0_0

[@gabepetro358]

@@arturkvieira as an entj female , I have no choice but to use that as a means of teaching someone that has no gratefulness, loyalty , integrity, consideration, etc. 9 times out of 10. You can keep it , if that's all it takes to rid me of said characters , so be it. But dont come crying to me about how I'm not fair , dont care, etc.

[@raypraise]

Dude the first like 2 minutes of this was the realest stuff I've ever heard about me

[@CalebMackey-hy5cu]

it's so funny hearing my own thoughts and actions objectively spoken about and realizing just how much i do all of the things mentioned here.

[@karimlaghrissi4992]

Great topic. On loyalty: Loyalty is one of the virtues that emanate from efficient leadership. This loyalty is never something to be forced upon someone, at least in the beginning. What is forced and brought forth for those who betray a purpose is the golden Accountability. When someone is aligned with the vision of the leader, they follow him to exact that vision and see it come to life. Once we are in the battlefield, all of us are to play our roles as assigned. If one is to betray that purpose they will be held accountable. As an ENTJ, what I despise the most is indecisiveness. On Altruism/Greed: One of the things that I also abhor is being manipulated by insidious schemes. I value integrity, and I would never make covert contracts in the fashion you're expressing. The only thing that is close to a covert contract I would make is :"I will do this, you do this and this". Even that is a simple agreement. When I give, I do that without asking anything in return. You highlighted a difference between someone asking me for money, and me offering them money. When someone asks me for money, it is up to me to refuse or accept. If I refuse, that's self-explanatory. If I accept and there are any conditions I should bring forth, I do so from the beginning. After all, I did it out of my own will. I despise exploiting people in need. That's a weakness. Then again, each one of us is different. Keep up the good work.

[@arcadianfox8127]

As an INTJ, I have to admit I have a similar issue with this covert contract. I like to give and help people, but when nothing comes back it eventually becomes an issue of "what is the point in keeping this relationship going?". It's not a trade either, we simply do things because we feel good doing things. We expect other people not to do things in return, but to do things for us because they themselves sincerely want to do it. What is done or why it is done holds no relationship, they are separate. Who does more is not important, but the nature of the intent matters.

[@truepeace3]

My father is an ENTJ, but I think the way you explained your thinking, would also describe him. Deep down, I think he hates fakeness more than anything. He can smell a lie a mile away. What he respects most is honesty in every aspect of life.

[@koukimonster6957]

Dude! It’s scary how good you are! As one of the other comments said: you think you’re not gonna learn something new and bam!

[@truepeace3]

You just described my father to a tee. He’s a retired and wealthy veterinarian. Smart as a whip and protective of his money. He can be very generous if it’s on his terms. As a father, he was authoritative, emotionally cruel and abusive at times, ultimately leaving me with rejection and abandonment issues. I’m an ENFJ, so his personality type was very destructive for me growing up. As adults, we’ve actually developed respect for one another and enjoy friendly debates. I don’t like thinking this, but I do still wonder if his love is conditional? Either way, I love him very much.

[@mattg2306]

truepeace3 I can’t speak for any one else, but for myself as an ENTJ, I have trouble showing love, to the point where some don’t think I even feel it. And that’s not true. I am just willing to make the decisions that will emotionally hurt myself/loved ones if I am absolutely positive that it will help. It’s not that I don’t feel emotion, it’s that I am obligated to move forward with the right choice even if it causes pain. I’ll do anything that helps my loved ones, even if it causes them to dislike me.

[@imfacejacked6046]

My father is an ENTJ as well I can relate. I'm an ENFP.

[@EZ-Videos]

lol, so had at a cluster B as a dad and you think that is a ENTJ. No wonder everyone hates MBTI

[@truepeace3]

@@EZ-Videos So apparently you’re the psychology expert now. My father was/is hardly a Cluster B personality. So there goes your sharp analytical skills. He’s very sane, mentally sharp and has no personality disorder. I actually have a lot of respect for him now that I’m older and I appreciate his sometimes difficult personality. We’re just very different people in some ways. Maturity has helped us both over the years and has created in us a mutual respect for one another.

[@EZ-Videos]

@@truepeace3 Welcome to coping 101

[@kitational]

As an ENTJ who knows several ESTPs, they seem to be more thoughtless. My ESTP female friend is consistently unaware of how badly she makes others feel. My ENTJ grandfather ended his life earlier to avoid using the money to survive that he was planning for my future. The ESTPs would never think that far into someone's future besides their own, like Trump.

[@mtp6572]

ENTJ are the bosses of future orientation.

[@gigglesmcdounut723]

Trump is actually an ENTJ.

[@marmelaxis4617]

My dad is an ENTJ and is definitely the most generous person I know. I think that the reason ENTJs are the most financially wealthy (typically) of all the types is that they responsibly know what they want with their Ni parent, and then they can aspire with their Fi inferior to decide, "This is what I responsibly want, and that is the MOST valuable thing to me." They are by default rational, so they will eliminate anything that takes away time from what they want to achieve, since they know what is important to them. If an ENTJ makes a plan for someone else, the other person should understand what the ENTJ wants (Ne), and how valuable it is to the ENTJ (Fe), and so dutifully (Si) follow the ENTJ's directions. I've experienced this first hand; they will not tolerate it if they make a plan and other people decide that it's not important, because the ENTJ doesn't care about what other people think is important (Fe demon).

[@realSimoneCherie]

I’ve given a lot… but it’s always money. I’m quick to do that. Time or attention, im much slower to give

[@isabelle2717]

Fascinating. One time I had a conversation with my grandma about my boyfriend, who's an ENTJ. She told me she finds him to be a great guy and she likes him but was worried about one thing... Whether he isn't greedy. It surprised me and I asked her why she thought so. That's kinda funny but she told me she had that suspicion based on how nicely he dressed and how clean his car was, not based on anything he had ever said. I was thinking about that and realized that my boyfriend is a lot like my grandpa who I believe might have been an ENTJ too and was very strict when it came to finances. My grandma must have noticed some familiarity. I wouldn't call my boyfriend greedy but there's something to it that ENTJs can be very generous and yet appear so petty sometimes when it comes to their resources, I don't mean just money. It's something very specific to this type.

[@LlamassU__]

You know what. over time ive cylced through 4 types. Infj enfp entp then entj and rewatching the videos of vice virtue...etc to see if i could attune them into my life from watching these videos i know im a extrovert because i seek info from the outside world and i know i have extroverted intuition because im always all about the what if and not the what is as much. so im stuck with enfp entp and entj. so glad you make these videos typology is soo interesting and i dont know why but i trust you the most out of the other typology content creators

[@louise7382]

Favourite part of the video is when he walks through the park and the boys playing football in the background.

[@smile6889]

INTP here, trying to learn how to have the best relationship with ENTJ, thanks for the help in these videos...

[@markberry7193]

Joseph, that was an awesome video! The best I have seen, it really hit home in helping me further understand myself. Thank You!

[@guesswho8244]

i found out that i am an ENTJ (female) only a few days ago. so many things just made sense to me, very eye opening. spot on and i have decided to embrace that. now, i just must become wealthy and successful. no other way lol. thank you so much for your input, it has helped me a lot!

[@upstartfenix]

How’s that journey going ;)

[@Jarjestelmacom]

You have been so right about the ENTJ generocity/averice dynamic. Regards, an ENTJ

[@AnonW]

As an ENTJ this is exactly why I have such problems with relationships coz fundamentally most women are consumers and look for a man as a provider but as an ENTJ I'm paranoid af coz my ROI is gonna be in the negatives everytime, especially with losing half my shit, paying alimony and child support, scares me to no end. With stats like almost 50% of marriages ending up in divorce and 70-80% of the divorces are initiated by women and if you lived together for longer than 2 years you are effectively married (defacto), how the fk are you not scared of your future???

[@whitneyvalens4126]

Get a good shaman

[@usadoranonimo9103]

Funny thing, as an ENTJ, I hung on to a difficult relationship for 3 years because of how much I invested in time, emotion and finances. It started off online and so I fit in time slots to spend time with them but..it wasn't respected much which led to some friction. I know the world doesn't work that way to get some kind of outcome as little is in our control, but I enjoyed making my ex's world light up so much even though I didn't get anywhere close to a fair return. It did affect my own perception on whether I was good enough to be with them. Well made video.

[@jay-rebuild-collins8214]

Very interesting video Chase. You just typed me the other day when you were talking with my wife 3xsystematic. You were correct, this feels very much like me. On the other side of the coin with altruism. If a person invests in me, I will do anything to pay back that investment in kind. I'm obligated to it. I do get so much out of giving to others, I feel morally obligated to return it when I receive

[@CSJoseph]

It was excellent to meet you sir. Might I suggest you continue this investment and read the following books immediately: "The 50th Law" by Robert Greene, "Entreleadership" by Dave Ramsay "Lean Startup" by Eric Reis and the "Ideal Team Player." If you can't stay focused on the book, I suggest you get an audible account. You can get a free one with a free book here: csjoseph.life/reading

[@jay-rebuild-collins8214]

@@CSJoseph Thank you for the advice. Should I read those in order?

[@michaelbuell3711]

I'm an ENTJ and I have been called greedy my whole life, since I was a kid. Don't even remember how that happened or how I got that reputation. When I got older I used it to my advantage to hold other people accountable when I gave them money and mostly people don't even ask me for money anymore which I am fine with. The funny thing is that I never considered myself a greedy person, I always felt that when I was generous it went unnoticed. It's amazing how accurate this video is, I really should watch how I interact with people on this altruism and avarice vice. To be honest though, I don't see my friends and family changing their minds anytime soon.

[@lightmode3036]

Interestingly enough, it does sound like ESFJ one. I'm an INTP and I share with both ENTJ and ESFJ vice virtues to some level

[@soniac2156]

That is because you have 4 sides of the mind, and it includes also ENTJ (your shadow or unconscious) and ESFJ (your subconscious) and ISFP is your superego

[@Goldforever-vp8zq]

I think it’s a little different because ESFJs will just give will force giving on you with the intention upfront to get something back from you at a later time.

[@MoveInSilence23]

Greed? It's just simply a lust for life (and everything else). We come to collect, we ALWAYS take way more than we ever gave. Because we can. Good video 😊

[@melinavdw342]

I started off when I was younger with being very generous. I remember people telling who contrary my attitude towards people was with how much I actually did for people or gave to people. I got taken advantage of that. I started viewing all relationships as an investment with a contract. Sometimes covert sometimes overt. Some people did not like this, and I didn't exactly get the the "greedy" nickname, but the "cold, harsh and inhumane" one. People don't value free things I came to understand. In a friendship I was paying for everything but I defenitely do expect entertainment and loyalty in return. I work I used to give people second chances and they were not grateful for that. I started firing them with no guilt. I can't stand people who don't like win win agreements and don't appreciate things that are given. How do you show your appreciation? Well use your imagination or ask me how. Greedy seems to me like the wrong word. But I see defenitely what you are trying to say here. I got called greedy because of other things like wanting money and such.

[@shallynanurfadiyah8477]

Yes it's true, I'm kinda obsessed on giving my good friends a good time

[@shallynanurfadiyah8477]

It might be true that I can be expecting something in return when I invest in people, to some extent. But nowadays I tried to be more generous by expecting less when giving something to people, because when you don't receive back after investing in people, it's disappointing. I try to manage my expectations. When I give something, I made sure I am not expecting the same thing back. If I look back, I think I had a lot of people in my life who don't expect something in return when they were being generous to me. But when someone gave me something, I made sure I'll give them back.

[@waicheungli1151]

power and money. I believe.....

[@ashuranero5721]

Literally my school life

[@rosa9005]

Woow, this is exactly how I feel bro.

[@Hello0o0o064]

It’s not greed to expect loyalty… if I do something for someone because I care about them, I don’t NEED anything back, unless a time comes where they can show their loyalty back to me. It’s not greed. And if people don’t want to help me when I need help (if it really isn’t too much to ask) then them not helping me is a sign they’re not worthy of any more attention, and they’ve wasted my time (or I’ve wasted my time) since they clearly don’t care as much about me as I do about them. It’s not greed! Sheesh

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

I see so much of my ENTJ dad (healthy altruism MOST of the time) in this video. My brother is always asking for his help and then complains about being given constant advice. Like dude… of COURSE that’s what will happen!

[@olivialovhagen391]

Thank you Joseph for making this video. Both my Mother and Brother are ENTJ’s. My brother is a CEO of a company, he is definitely like this. I have often compared him to Trump, before I ever knew what an ENTJ was. I’m an INFJ and we’ve have never got along. We are opposed on pretty much every social and political issue. So I’m wondering if INFJ’s get along with ENTJ’s ?

[@CSJoseph]

its possible, emotionally at least.

[@dolfdervish8495]

I agree with Chase. It's definitely possible. That is, if you genuinely use your Ni & Fe to be counselor to his Fi. AKA "play" "Counselor" for him. The caveat is ignoring that *pulsating* Ti/Se when it's *yelling* "oh my God. You are so full of s#!t with your bully pseudo intp 'expert' crap. How can you be so successful, yet, still so simultaneously, actually, & hypocritically dumb." Instead, formulate your "bullsh!tometer" notifications in Respectful "inquiries." Watch them open up & grow like a beautiful & fragrant venus fly trap.

[@gigglesmcdounut723]

My Bf is an INFJ and I'm an ENTJ, but we are both rather mature and it's easier to relate when the ENTJ has worked on their Fi. It's really hard for an ENTJ with a underdeveloped Fi to express how they feel to others. At least for me I had no idea what I was feeling. I just knew I was. Sometimes the emotions would all come at once and be jumbled. It took me a long time to actually identify my emotions and why I was feeling them. I guess I'm saying, if your brother hasn't developed his Fi yet don't ask him how he feels. He doesn't know. Use your Ti child to make logical discussions. Relate with the Ni. Generally I'm very aware of other peoples tone of voice and sometimes I say something, but the tone is wrong. You being an Fe parent you'll want to understand his emotions. Best thing to do is use the Ni and Ti to help get through to him. I know this is 3 years late,but I hope he has worked on his Fi. It'll make it a LOT easier to communicate. My bf asks me how I am all the time. I tell him idk. Give me a moment and I'll tell you. I have to really take time to evaluate what I'm feeling and why. I'm grateful for my bf's ability to help me process emotions and I love that he is a very honest and caring person. The enneagram type can have a lot to do with your brothers attitude as well. It'll help you understand what your brother and mom are avoiding.

[@Helloworld-ps3qd]

Since I was in elementary school, I used to take care of making every classmate to feel good and feel boding together without any loners. I knew that makes everyone happy but I always wondered that why everyone doesn’t care people who don’t have any friends in the classroom.

[@shadowthewarlord705]

I've found that most people I know are undeserving of my generosity and are not worth making deals with. If I help without asking for anything in return, I don't expect anything other than a bit of cred. I helped you with this little thing, you help me with this minor thing. Or I kept my mouth shut, you do the same, etc. But so many times I've made it very clear, "hey, I'll do this/give you this/help with this, but you have to do/give this" And I'll do my end of the deal and they end up screwin me over and not doing their end of the bargain. If the deal involved money I make sure I get my money back, one way or another. But when it comes to stuff like they were supposed to do something with me, or help with something, it's not like I can force them to do it, they got to be willing on at least some level, other wise it isn't worth the effort. My sisters in particular are notorious for this, making deals with me and then not fulfilling their end. They legit refer to me as the Davy Jones of the family... All I want, is for your words to mean more than shit. Is that too much to ask? I know personally for me, when I make a deal/promise it's solid. I don't make promises easily, nor do I guarantee anything unless I have to or make deals without thinking through what I'm being asked to do in return. Sure, lot of people hate me for it cause it can make me seem quite unreliable because I always leave a back door. But in my eyes, I'm the ONLY reliable person cause I'm the one who follows through every time I make a promise/deal, whereas they make promises they can't/won't keep, and say things they can't/won't follow through on.

[@qtdeshina]

15:50 - 17:00 Wow... So TRUE!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@underwaterpanther]

How long did it take you to lay down each type before you started teaching? I have to know! 😅 Your mind is just made for this! Thank you again and again for sharing!

[@k-lturner424]

You have the best videos ever 👏 What would an ENTJ look like with healthy developed FI (perhaps due to going through a lot of truma/ therapy)

[@k8schmate]

that whole bit about INTPs being blamed had me rolling

[@mrgator9670]

You've talked before about ENTJ being the ideal social match for INTP. I'm wondering though, if ENTJs have a tendency towards using people as investments and demanding their return, while INTPs seriously struggle with doormat syndrome (as INTP, can confirm), what about this relationship makes it work out? The ENTJ seeking loyalty and INTP giving loyalty makes tons of sense. But what's to stop the ENTJ from abusing the INTP in this way? Is there a necessary approach? Or maybe it's a non-issue, since the INTP *wants* to give unwavering loyalty, and *wants* to be given to (ENTJ altruism) and *wants* to reciprocates (satisfying/avoiding ENTJ avarice)? As an INTP, personally, I have absurd amounts of loyalty for the few that I value. There's little I want as much as for that loyalty to be recognized, appreciated, and reciprocated. Interacting with someone who is, in a sense, insecure about loyalty, and being able to prove them wrong, is incredibly satisfying and fulfilling. But anyways... How does this relationship avoid "abuse" and come out so strongly?

[@CSJoseph]

Because of the presence of Fi child, the INTP Fe inferior can adjust or manipulate the feelings of the ENTJ which disengages the ENTJ's avarice and keeps them in their altruistic side. Ti hero also criticizes them well enough and Te hero takes that criticism and immediately implements changed behavior. Or I should I just say, communication is key while not being afraid to offer criticism when it is due.

[@mrgator9670]

C.S. Joseph I see, very interesting. Thanks

[@AlisherZhantas]

C.S. Joseph you probably meant Fi inferior instead of Fi child

[@jenrock3172]

I was asking myself the very same. Thanks for being one year earlier!

[@stanger963]

Don't take advantage of ENTJs altruism btw

[@knifeyonline]

I know this is an old comment but if anybody see's this in the future... This comment is somewhat flawed. You shouldn't take advantage of ENTJ's altruism sure... but at the same time you should. The best thing you can do for ENTJ's is to ask them for help, and show appreciation. Otherwise ENTJ's get themselves in trouble by giving help that is not wanted. There's nothing more damaging than to "give of themselves" and be told to fuck off because their help is actually just a hindrance. (and the sad thing for ENTJ's is that for every person who does say this, there's 9 more who felt that way and said nothing and just ghosted them. This is a huge problem for ENTJ's and get's worse with age.)

[@tbmcnation]

I have experienced the covert contract lol

[@putritd3230]

Me too. A lot of times lol

[@wow9107]

Are you ever going to do a playlist on the 16 archetypes but shadow focused?

[@CSJoseph]

I do have something like that in mind for down the road.

[@CuddleClaw.]

As an ISTP, I relate to this (not the greed part). I normally do not like it when people ask for favors or gifts because it makes me feel obligated. I love giving, but usually only when nobody asks for it. An ISFJ man that I used to be interested in, I offered him a massage and he was happy to accept it. After that, he was too busy to make time for me, then a couple months later he asks for another massage because his back hurts. I do not like being used, so I told him I’ll trade him massage for massage. He flaked. I no longer have respect for him. I do not feel respected by him. I put him in the “F boy” zone.

[@CSJoseph]

Never not do F boy zone.

[@sanjeevpandiya981]

I have recently discovered that I am an ENTJ, just getting the hang of the 16 Personalities. In this video, I find that the choice of words (Altruism vs Avarice) is driven more by poetic license (A needs to match with A) than a stab at accuracy. Why is the search for a Return on Investment so avaricious? Why is it not simply rational? Exactly when would you call this search, greedy?! Where’s the line between sensible evaluation of one’s behaviour, and greedy expectations that are most likely to be belied?! Especially when, as I look back at my life, I find that my efforts have rarely been rewarded…so like any investor, I should make the wins pay for the losses. So maximise your wins & limit your losses…that’s rationality, not avarice. 🙏

[@CSJoseph]

Aren't you holding people you haven't tried to standards influenced by those who have failed you? One could argue that it's not a fair approach, why bother investing in people if you're not going to give them a fair shot at succeeding with you. Treating people like people instead of numbers isn't an admonition, it's advice that will benefit you.

[@morefaiththanever]

ENTJ argued me into voting Trump last term. I’m ENFP. Lol !

[@NathanLorenzana]

Not only money, it could have been time, attention, care.

[@actionchaplain1]

Trump has talked about loyalty to him repeatedly.

[@meilei8716]

This explains why my stepdad and I get along ENTj, intj

[@CSJoseph]

It can absolutely happen. It could also cause friction, just depends the two people.

[@TEAMHYBRID007]

My best friend is an INTP and I have always been fascinated about the way he collects knowledge and I thought the ENFP was the match for the intj I don't know if I was wrong or not because if the ENTP female is anything like my buddy she might be a keeper

[@knifeyonline]

I think you will find the difference between intp and entp profound. ENTP's seem to prioritise collecting information and not the verification of information. Though judging from your profile pic and name I don't think you will care/notice and you would probably really enjoy the ENTP energy.

[@patrickr185]

With each type from a personality standpoint, their “ideal/golden partner” is their shadow; hence the ENTP is indeed the INTJ’s best match. ENFP is a good match as well, it’s just not perfect.

[@NB-qy7ku]

Think it depends on the relation terms If its a friendship that legit then will do anything but if the other person starts having greed or other motives then the terms change everything about the relationship. Maybe others call it heart but if someone wants to get or break trust then it changes everything. Amd no more generousity in a relation or if’s not friendship type relation anymore. It changes the dynamic of everything and redefines.

[@thaisplouvier5403]

3:30 altruism : giving, supportive. 6:00 ENTJs don't see themselves as greedy. With altruism, they hope you'll be eternally loyal. Sometimes take back more than they've given. 8:10 INTP shadows thinks that person owes me. 12:45 if you're the one asking, they will expect a return on investment. 17:55 ENTJs are randyan objectivists.

[@darius_le_roy]

That half smile at 8:36 is classic ENTP. That feeling you get, only after the fact of course of the half millisecond sprint around the entirety of your brain that results in a half smile that screams, "This is awkward but I'll make it quick!"

[@underwaterpanther]

As an Infj I smelt this a long time ago hahaha never ever will I ask one for money. Not like that anyways but yeah def wouldn’t risk being on strings everrrr need my freedom too damn it lol

[@raouf31]

Can you make a video on why the NTs arent incompatible with any of the others? I watched a video which said that, maybe you disagree though

[@CSJoseph]

Devil's Advocate yeah I definitely disagree, watch my social compatibility playlist

[@Angrycapitalist]

We basically are "built" to allocate resources, I don't know why people can't understand that that's why we tend to have higher incomes/ net worth. - My hope from investing in someone is that they will return it +15% That being said, it's also my hope that you have made that initial input worth many multiples of what I put in. *Edit Even better, if we have a prearranged repayment

[@shannonlogue5585]

When can I expect to see the vice & virtue for INFJ?

[@CSJoseph]

Shannon Logue coming very soon!

[@captaincook510]

I have a question: In principle what is the difference between an ENFP in charitable mode versus an ENTJ in generous mode. I watched both explanations already but I still don't understand the distinction.

[@CSJoseph]

generous is based on amount given vs. charity which is volume of giving instances even if in small amounts.

[@bradapotamus]

I'm an ENTJ. I don't think greed is the vice, (then again I will admit, my experience is more neuroscience than psychology). I'll use my wealth to provide better experiences usually. I spend money on nicer things, so that I can be a better host, or because I wanted to buy the best possible thing(what else is worth buying)? If not now, down the road(like already planning inheritance structure). Yes, sometimes I think: "if no one appreciates it, what's the point? Why don't I MAKE them appreciate it by dominating the whole structure, and forcing them into submission?". Usually that is just a smal emotional spike, and implementing it is so uncomfortable it doesn't stay in my attention long. I think developmentally, the generous nature was taken advantage of, and the coping mechanism was to develop more intelligence to protect the sensitive emotional nature. And the weaponization of this defense mechanism becomes this intellectual public flogging. Example, ESTP construction managers don't deliver on deliverables unless it's an emergency. I have the paper trail showing My vice is more CRUSHING someone publicly and intellectually into dust. Pretty much always in response, and in as public a situation as I can manage. In my more immature days when I was testing my dagger-tongue, I'd cruelly experiment with what I could do. Currently, it's saved for those who attempt to be emotionally manipulative. I think that is largely reflected in compatibility charts. If someone wants to make personal/emotional insults/manipulations, I will rarely hesitate to absolutely intellectually destroy someone's whole understanding about themselves and others. Especially if it's in a group setting. Because I care about what others think, emotional attacks are "hitting below the belt" in my mind, and merits a very well thought-out, destructive, nuclear option. Usually character attacks, with lots of personal evidence, and science. My understanding is that, because I have REALLY filled up my introverted intuition (research papers, etc.) I basically have an enormous weaponizable cache at my disposal. Dead on about covert contracts. Took years to figure out that reciprocity the majority of the time needs to be explicit. Your channel actually taught me the term!

[@thegoodlife5205]

Hi, I’m an ENFJ

[@janine7418]

No wonder I understand DJT! I love him as POTUS and understand his strategy.

[@mcatherinew4779]

I truly dislike being compared to Trump as an entj, but nevertheless, you have to make a comparison. In regards to your point to gifting capital: the more is see those with monies to bestow, I’ve witnessed an occasional emotional side to some extent when it’s being gifted to a truly redeeming person or situation. Is this true in an entj? Or can it, I’m saying in a particular situation? I myself, know of my humane side, but do not show it easily. We’re all human and show different sides and different times. I witnessed these circumstances mostly while watching Undercover Boss and Shark Tank. Also... forgetfulness...ha!:)

[@alistairproductions]

Also Trump does use Fe . You can see how he uplifts others socially particularly when he views another as “competent”. He’ll be like “hey isn’t this guy great amirite!?” fairly often

[@alistairproductions]

Eh or maybe not. I’m second guessing that now

[@CSJoseph]

Matthew Alistair yeah that’s Se, he is giving others a good experience, he doesn’t care how others feel.

[@OpportunisticHunter]

Trump impersonated the whole campaign... watch him on other places how he presents himself not as a president.

[@truepeace3]

Matthew Alistair Trump is a likable ENTJ. And he loves his family. Wish my dad could have loved me more than his money.

[@japanesereadingandwriting]

👍👍

[@madrox231]

Well in 20 minutes you got 1 thing right. Entj's want and expect loyalty. That's about all you got right. But well done Jr, that's a fair point.

[@BREAKOUT444]

Your thoughts on a male INTP/Female ENTJ relationship?

[@CSJoseph]

The best possible.

[@legomasta101]

only if both parties are loyal...

[@TEAMHYBRID007]

So what you're saying is asking the entj for help is like asking the devil for help and selling your soul this is coming from an intj asking I'm the opposite

[@ninety617]

I am a female ENTJ (if you feel I've mistyped give me your opinion). I gained respect for you because of a previous video you posted where you passionately defended the ENTJ as misunderstood. I appreciated it because my ass-hattedness does come from me disregarding the few to care for the health of the majority. Admittedly, sometimes I disregard an opinion because I just downright think the person's wrong, but I've learned to let even that slide unless I think the opinion is hurting someone's accurate worldview. Then you turn around and because Trump by your definition (and admittedly in mine as well) is an ENTJ all of a sudden I feel really attacked. What happened to your understanding of disregarding a few for the good of the majority? Isn't this the same type you were defending before? Or did you get your political bias in the way? I will be treading carefully on your channel now.

[@CSJoseph]

I could care less about Trump. I could care even less about political parties in which the lazy American is fit to outsource its political thinking too... which too is an abomination. Don't tack your status or sense of self worth onto comparisons. You have nothing to be afraid of, why? because you are you and that is more than sufficient.

[@raedjamal5779]

@@CSJoseph that is pretty thoughtful of your Fe child.

[@keylockwood9487]

I completely agree with the original poster. I believe C. S. Lewis dated an Entj and did put much into the relationship and when he got called on it and she left came up with this explanation because he was hurt and still does not understand what happened. I have a feeling he didn't not put nearly as much into the relationship or doesn't realize he wasn't and was very hurt when it all ended. For me as an Entj, people take advantage of the time and help I give them, but when I and other Entj I know need a little help people don't return the favor. I personally think Entj's help too much and get taken advantage a lot, and eventually learn that this happens and protect themselves and their hearts. I started watching this because my Istp, and Enfj friends were watching this and were yelling at the screen about how much bullshit this is.

[@keylockwood9487]

And everyone deserves 'some' return on their investment...'No' friendship or relationship 'is a relationship' without some investment on both sides. Relationships are a back and forth from both sides, you act as if Entj's don't deserve friends that care about them at all.

[@generalpatton838]

Great to know more about our president. Good thing he's in the Altruism mode right now

[@KikiKaraoke19]

If ENTJ are the most generous which type is the most greedy

[@KikiKaraoke19]

@chimpanzee eagle I thought INPs are because they usually don’t like to share their money,food etc

[@Goldforever-vp8zq]

They are both. They have the potential to be either one. Just like ISFPs are the most laziest of the types or either the most efficient

[@Goldforever-vp8zq]

You ever heard the saying your greatest weakness are your greatest strengths ?

[@jimmyfranco6931]

Have you ever thought of the inverse of your ideas about ENTJs, and how this idea of loyalty is one in which they also apply to themselves, and how the understanding that most things asked for need to be repaid back (I've never not paid a debt back in my life).

[@CSJoseph]

I have thought of it yes. However, ENTJs are people that others should be loyal to, and as a result of this, they mirror it back to those same people.

[@jimmyfranco6931]

@@CSJoseph Thanks C.S., can you clarify what you mean by "ENTJs are people that others should be loyal to." Are you saying that some types of personalities don't necessarily reciprocate or deserve (if that's the right word) loyalty? Interesting if so.

[@CSJoseph]

Se child does many great things for others, provided there are no string attached, those other people, especially Si users would have loyalty built up within them for the ENTJ.

[@thegem597]

What will be bat mans type? Btw..I really like you. Are u an enfp? I feel safe listening to you.

[@CSJoseph]

He is INTJ

[@CSJoseph]

I am an ENTP. Join our discord. linktr.ee/csjoseph

[@NeinFeline]

Hahahahahahahah RSD Tyler... Aka "Tyler Durden"... Aka inventor of "style mogging"

[@andrewfreeman131]

How can I be extraordinarily creative and impulsive with my money If I’m supposed to be an Intellectual (I definitely am) and good with money? Signed your friendly neighborhood ENTJ

[@CSJoseph]

Good at making it, while also being really good at spending it impulsively.

[@andrewfreeman131]

@@CSJoseph gotcha! Yeah I own 2 businesses and have knack for it for sure. It’s funny because it took me until I got in my 30s to really come into my own as an ENTJ! But saving money, for a down payment on land, is very difficult. Any tips on getting better at that?

[@distorteddingo9230]

What's wrong with a covert contract? Everyone is acting in their own interests. You're lying if you don't. It's evolution, it's survival.

[@CSJoseph]

its manipulation

[@distorteddingo9230]

Lessor vs Lessee - ENTJ STYLE If both parties benefit from the deed, its called "expedient means" not manipulation in Buddhism. It is a way of leading ignorant people to enlightenment and teaching them morality (correct behavior). It's only manipulation if you are hurting them. When a mother(lessor) tells a sick child(lessee) "I'm never taking you to the playground ever again if you don't take this medicine"; its not manipulation, it's love. You have many times stated and noted, including in this video, how you benefitted from the Aultruistic behavior of the ENTJS. (High functionimg, awakened ones). I'm not saying covert Contracts can't be bad, or manipulate just pointing can also be good. It depends on how awakened the leasor is.

[@fayanzaman3159]

I think Jeff Bezos is a starter type.He seemed initiating,informative,movement and abstract.

[@thes7450]

Estj

[@maria_s3731]

Honestly Donald Trump is too unhealthy to be typed. He has a clinical case of narcissistic personality disorder. Maybe more Naomi Campbell is ENTJ or kris Jenner As an ISFP i have a love hate relationship with ENTJs anyway but as much as i hate them i definitely have my best results around them. My English teacher is probably one and if it wasn’t for her “yelling” and for being “obsessed” with us knowing her lessons and for not tolerating laziness in her class i wouldn’t know how to speak English as it’s not my first language.

[@BookofYAH777]

ENTJ richest by huge margin? What about Elon Musk?

[@alexandralenzinger8482]

I agree trump is an entj

[@choco1199]

Lol this fits Trump to a T

[@alistairproductions]

Trump just doesn’t seem primarily intuitive, his Se is too strong he’s all about acting in the moment

[@CSJoseph]

Which ENTJ does not act in the moment? Se child is about living in the moment and being impulsive.

[@alistairproductions]

Okay perhaps you’re right

[@OpportunisticHunter]

Not intuitive? AMEEEEERICAAAA (and that is how you take the votes from the democrats, you politicians in the USA)... basically a CEO teaching the american politicians, by being one of them! Wasn't "far-right" the agenda? +C.S. Joseph As ENTJ sometimes I tend to act ESTPish just because it's needed on the specific moments when presenting a product. IDK but I also think Steve Jobs probably had his ESTPpish moments. I have my doubts about Bill Gates because so many people claim him to be INTP... and he is not so much like Steve Jobs was when packing hardware AND software together to make silicon art. Microsoft was shunned by him as a tasteless software only company at the side of Apple. Apple is worth a Trillion dollars already, it

[@OpportunisticHunter]

It's all about the ISFP subconscious trying to give the best experience and as ESTP is the best cognitive stack to communication with others, it may be inevitably developed through.

[@sushibaby9675]

What!? Donald Trump has a moral compass? 😁

[@stanger963]

An ENTJ gave you time?xD How did that happen x)

[@braden3883]

Trump is a creator not an intellectual, no intellectual would build the Trump Taj Mahal.

[@CSJoseph]

dont forget that intellectuals have creative sides within their subconscious

[@ronallan8680]

I have to call you out on putting ENTJs on a Pedestal. I am ENTJ and I am here to learn about Myself. I really don't care if Bezos, Trump or Mary Poppins is ENTJ. If they are, they are, if they aren't they aren't. It has no bearing on me at all and i don't care. So kindly stop assigning our type to people if they never asked for it simply because they seem successful. And focus on the teaching PS: Didn't finish the video

[@CSJoseph]

as long as you are willing to not jump to conclusions

[@mickey2927]

SOOOOOOOOOO WRONG

[@CSJoseph]

Good point, well presented.

[@slittingsoviets33]

@@CSJosephLOL

[@shelbynicholson6749]

Trump is ESTJ. But each to his own. So everybody's asking you what your sources are. They want to read all this in a book. I don't want to read your sources. I want to read your book. Can we have a book, please? I want your analysis of things. Finish your videos first though obviously.

[@CSJoseph]

Shelby Nicholson book is coming and no I disagree about Trump being an ESTJ. Trump is not motivated by tradition, duty or playing it safe, all of which are traits of an ESTJ. He is the opposite, thus an ENTJ

[@OpportunisticHunter]

What ENTJ doesn't need0 developed sensory functions? Trump may be very well developed on sensory functions but it doesn't exclude his intuitive capacity.

[@usa4287]

He is too strategic