What is this part exchanged Audi A5 hiding?

[@timcollins380]

Hi James, I am a subscriber on holiday in Sherborne Dorset from Perth Australia. We stopped by on Monday 11th Nov to say Hi but you weren't around. Maybe next time. We are in the trade in Perth but also run a service and repair workshop. All the best.

[@harrygiles1098]

Good job James, as always

[@voivod6871]

It looks like the same colour as the 2008 TT in todays High Peak Auto video that have just finished watching before clicking on this. My two current fav channels.

[@ChopsGarage]

Many thanks

[@shabba890]

One is blue one is grey! But its interesting how Matt reveals what he pays for the car, his costs and profit margins.

[@voivod6871]

@ yeah you’re right but looked similar in different light.

[@CarlosFandango1975]

I’ve bought a couple convertibles as close to Christmas as I can. I’ve always had good cheap deals before they break for Christmas. Looks like a great buy polished right up

[@karkacesub]

Another great video from one of the best out there!

[@henrykravitz468]

Great video James. The Audi, looks nice, hopefully doesn't need much as parts can be expensive. Have a great week James

[@roystonvehicles9129]

A lot of part worm tyres come from Germany where standards are higher, tho some can be badly repaired cheapies. I just buy new budget for normal cars, got one for a quasgui on Saturday, 85 quid brand new, looks impressive. Back in the day I put 4 remoulds on an allegro (!) they all blew out over the course of a few weeks, customer was going nuts, tyre place said, yeah they all do that.

[@jasonbudd2950Jag]

Thanks for uploading fella. The Audi looks tidy for 2010 .

[@ChopsGarage]

Cheers

[@Cirrus4000]

What are the alloy protectors you mentioned? I'd be interested in getting some for my car. Thx

[@WmAHughes]

The problem with part worn tyres in my eyes is that that they have been removed for a reason. They are a safety item that has lots of variables and points of failure and wouldn’t want that liability on my mind. I have had a part worn tyre detread after about 50 miles while on a motorway and wouldn’t want that to happen to a customer. They should have offered budgets and given the customer an option to put towards better tyres. I’m sure they wouldn’t consider part worn brake pads if they needed replacing.

[@yunneqfeeds4152]

Was gonna contact you about the a5 super cheap smoker but cat n 😫 paint is very nice though it also 3k optional extras inc b&o, heated seats etc looks a nice car! Didn’t realise you retailed cat cars though

[@ChopsGarage]

Yes I do Cat N. Way I figure it sub 5k why does it matter, 99 percent of the cars you will look at even non cat will of had a bump repaired so why no buy one 25 percent cheaper. This will be 4295 not 5695

[@yunneqfeeds4152]

@ makes total sense I’m strictly hpi clear but had cat n in part ex would only offer 50% off cap for the cat n because I don’t want them but they sell fasttt just price accordingly

[@jamesdavis8425]

Id prefer some nice branded part worns than nasty new budgets. But as you said thats if you could easily source them. Probably wouldn't be worth the hassle.

[@tonyhaynes9080]

If you can’t afford to run and maintain a car properly, then don’t buy it!

[@jamesdavis8425]

@tonyhaynes9080 I agree. I always buy branded new tyres. I also never use aftermarket parts.. But that wasn't the question. The question was is it ok for a used car dealer to put used tyres / parts onto a used car. Answer: within reason yes.

[@joshuatowler8804]

Piston and Conrod oil drinking issues are the main issues with these especially at that mileage. Gearbox can be funny aswell

[@ChopsGarage]

Yes, true

[@jamiecooksey9037]

Nice Audi, but my concern would be cost of parts and repair if something goes tit's up within the warranty period.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

If its using oil, it's a big problem as customer won't carry any and no dipstick, first they'll know is oil level light on, may just carry on, maybe on motorway, average person isn't into checking oil often, next it's back and a refund, oil stain on cover is a bit of a clue tbh. I don't buy anything with a TSFI badge on, vws or audis, I'd be amazed if it's not burning oil tbh.

[@BazDeeWren]

I’ve put both cheap new and part worn tyres on my vans for years and not had any issues. Funny though I do get branded tyres on the wife’s car. When I bought her latest car recently the dealer was putting two budget tyres on as part of the sale for the MOT and I was happy to pay for Michelin’s. He did subtract the cost of the cheaps of which was brilliant but I didn’t expect it.

[@andycoppin1777]

I hope you own an oil well!

[@johnelbro127]

As always great video James. 👍👍👍👍😊

[@RobbieJohn-k5i]

I find the only problem with budget tyres is the noise rating isn't that great 😊

[@DaDa-David]

Tires - that would be a good old 'Fifth Gear' test, cheap brands versus part worns. Must admit when I hit paydirt I'd go cheap and new, I always wondered with a p/w how many times that previous owner had bounced up and down kerbs and stuff or what it could have been through if it came off a wreck.

[@chrishart8548]

We have Tyres in the UK. I remember the cheap brands being shocking in the wet. Didn't they cause the mini cooper to have dangerous oversteer

[@paulanderton9424]

I have a TT with this engine. Brilliant engine. Yes they like oil but if you put Millers Nano 5w-40 it stops it drinking oil. A cat N is nothing. I sell cat cars and never have a problem and never have an issue with interest. Ignore those who like to give out knowledge like they are a Guru. 😅

[@ChopsGarage]

Top tip cheers

[@Asher-ash-n4q]

Hi James I liked the pod cast you did with guys I was hooked I had to subscribe it was great hope you keep it up 👍

[@ChopsGarage]

Many thanks

[@th3w4nted]

Can you provide a link to the podcast please? I can’t find it.

[@markbro4427]

Many of the 2.0 tfsi around 2008-12 used an awful lot of oil from new....Audi replaced alot of engines.

[@Peterpanic-c3h]

The oil spilled on the engine cover implies that it has been topped up in the past! If it is anything like my last Audi you were lucky to do 1000 miles before the light came on.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

​@@Peterpanic-c3hyes, it was a good clue, owner rushing to chuck some oil in as light had come on

[@dannycrooks8462]

A 10 year old Audi you're definitely brave can't wait on the warranty claims 😂😂😂

[@ChopsGarage]

We shall see

[@typhoontim125]

He's brave alright...he drives a land rover! (well, when it's not broken he drives a land rover 😂)

[@michaelisherwood8670]

8 owners Cat N. Trade it on.

[@ChopsGarage]

Ok

[@andyw2517]

You’ve tempted me into the raffle. *Shakes fist*

[@roystonvehicles9129]

I don't buy off other traders bud, been absolutely done loads of times, main dealer p ex at auction or genuine private sellers, anything else is so risky, you don't want wbac or car buying group stuff at auctions either. I've just bought a 207 at auction, car buying group, didn't notice, on way back limp mode, turbo problems, you've really got to be so, so careful, I've sold 3 cars this weekend and all I've achieved is I've blown a grand, that's after loads of work as well, hope they don't come back either (!)

[@ChopsGarage]

Sorry you been having bad run

[@roystonvehicles9129]

@ChopsGarage ta bud, always hard work this time of year, prices are down at the auctions, on that quasgui it was, gearbox, clutch, tyres, usual other stuff, sold it and blew 500 (!) then they messaged saying spare key wasn't for that car, so another 200 went west. Even lost on a mint fiat 500,it just wouldn't sell.

[@djkitchen982]

Part worn tyres are fine, but legally when fitted they must be permanently and visibly marked as such. Not to do that is illegal.

[@ada-ey3xd]

Be careful of the fwd auto Audis. The multitronic gearboxes also known as multitragic can be a costly mistake.

[@MADTASS]

Part Worn Tyres happens everyday in the Haulage Industry, basically, it's an Economical Option.

[@stevenmoran4060]

15 year old German cars are basically a big problem waiting to happen. They don’t age well or economically. Part worn tyres are never acceptable to my mind. You have no idea where they came from and why they came of the car they started on. A lot of insurance companies won’t be too happy to insure a car with se I d hand tyres on it. Check the policy carefully, My cars tyres are 20 inch and £250 each! I had a puncture and because using the sullied gunk didn’t work due to me having a hybrid where the ignition turns off after 3 minutes, the RAC repaired it with a plug with the very clear instruction to replace the tyre after no more than 50 miles and do not exceed 50 mph. That was on a brand new car only 2 weeks old. A tyre repair is a get you home fix not a suitable fix to last until the tyre tread wears right down. Funny how manufactures supply tyre repair kits you can’t use in a hybrid isn’t it? Only way to keep the car in engine is sit in drivers seat with hazard lights on which of course is impossible to do on your own trying to inflate a tyre with the kit! I am prepared now though.

[@markbro4427]

How would the insurance know if a car tyre had been bought part worn or it was bought new a while back and is now part worn😂

[@MrNikoid]

Sorry didn't understand issue with repair kit and hybrid?

[@ianf397]

You do realise that 95% of cars on the UK roads at any time have part worn tyres on them, so there can't be much wrong with putting used tyres on, provided that they have enough tread and are not perished or damaged otherwise.

[@c11yan]

Driver’s wing slightly off colour and bonnet and front bumper hence the cat n?

[@filipwennergren2712]

I want the Barchette LHD, but I´m from Sweden, Is it doable?

[@ChopsGarage]

You simply need to get here mate. But if you win it's will be worth the trip

[@filipwennergren2712]

@@ChopsGarage An adventure!

[@stevedmavicmini6581]

Pull passenger carpet up as fill with water and destroys the module writing the car off

[@edwardospells7477]

Trade it in . Tfsi 2.0 oil burners , all recalled years ago due to rings . I’ve got s5 and rs5 beautiful cars but Jesus talk about maintanence costs and things going wrong . 2.0 diesel good engines tho .

[@Stewie_Norfolk]

Chops did you notice when you was fingering the dropped bumper there was paint damage it aswell

[@andywakefield9826]

Doesn't look a bad buy at first look

[@roystonvehicles9129]

Wolf of wall street, how many times a day do you put oil in your TSFI?

[@ChopsGarage]

You recon trade out?

[@roystonvehicles9129]

@ChopsGarage rev it up bud and smell the exhaust for burnt oil, remember the oil burning polo? That TSFI is renowned for oil burning, oil ring wear smooth, I used to service a guys audi TSFI I sold him a gallon of oil every mth, he wasn't doing a high mileage either, I'd leave him a gallon on his doorstep, ha, ha.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

@ChopsGarage I've stripped them down and put new rings in, cheap enough and transforms them.

[@mikeharrison6175]

I had a 2010 1.8 tfsi A4 Avant S Line. It was a 2 stroke engine. I put as much oil in it as I put petrol. German engineering s…t

[@garymorris801]

They are not great

[@DanStep-v4k]

Its a really good looking motor, not many manufacturers cars look so good at 14 years. Shame its more borked VAG rubbish though.

[@pauldavy9118]

It's one of the worst engines ever. New engines were fitted under warranty in the US, but over here, it was a bodge job on pistons and a sump baffle if you were lucky. It looks like a proper used dealer stitch-up.

[@IanM18]

?

[@exgtt2061]

Prefer part worn branded to new ling longs, on a car under £5k. As a customer, over £5k spend and part worn fitted at point of sale would put me off the dealer tbh. It’s something I’d expect of a private seller to get an MOT.

[@vwgolffancarreviews7111]

I would trade out the A5 convertible and keep the A3 convertible I hate cars with leather seats they get really hot in the summer my day got the same model but the sportback version from 2014 which is absolutely horrible the back seats are really bad and uncomfortable I would avoid the model with a sat nav because it's a very outdated now my dad has one and he's Audi A5 sportback which is very out of date I always go with brand new tires on a car part worn tyres I would avoid them at all costs Especially on a VW Golf

[@paramedicchrisbookseries]

Another fantastic video.

[@ChopsGarage]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jacobboni3889]

I hope you knocked him for scrapping the alloys while driving into your yard. I'm sure that would be the case if it was the other way round

[@Mr2345678910]

Bad engines known to burn oil

[@roystonvehicles9129]

Pay for a salvage report bud, it'll have pictures on when it went thru Co part, might have been not too bad.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

I've just lost money on a car, but I still put new tyres on it for the customer, 17 plate with part worns is a bit mean.

[@ChopsGarage]

Does yes

[@roystonvehicles9129]

@@ChopsGarage we're the genorous traders bud (!)

[@IanMurdoch-uj1yo]

Check or do gearbox service James.

[@dinointhetube]

Big no no second hand tyres, tie wraps on wheel trims and steering wheel cover. Just says bodge job to me.

[@chrislebiedz7461]

Still forsale ?

[@TheAllyMor]

Do you put a specific brand or brands of tyres on your cheapies?

[@TheAllyMor]

If so, what ones?

[@ChopsGarage]

Don't really know leave it to garage and just ask for budgets

[@Mach_One_Photos]

people always get excited about part worn tyres and say things like you don't know the history of how the tyre has been treated. well pretty much every second hand car sold in the country has part worn tyres, unless the dealer fits new tyres the car is running part worn tyres and you don't know the history of how the tyre has been treated

[@Gothicgarlic]

The problem is why aren't those tyres on a car? Probably because it's been involved in quite a bad accident. The difference with cars on the road is they most likely haven't been involved in a heavy smash

[@Mach_One_Photos]

@@Gothicgarlic a lot of the part worns come from places like Germany where the legal tread limit is 3mm and they are often changed with more than 3mm when people switch to winter tyres and deem the summer tyre not worth refitting after winter. part worns can be from scrap cars but not all accidents would make a tyre unsafe

[@markbro4427]

​@@GothicgarlicNot necessarily....many come from Europe were rental companies would just replace a punctured tyre or at a certain mileage....in some countries dealers have to replace tyres on second hand trade ins before reselling..... personally I don't buy them but I know plenty people that do.

[@Gothicgarlic]

@@markbro4427 thank you, I wasn't aware of this

[@ChopsGarage]

Exactly

[@neilsmith2323]

Worst engine ever (had one) oil burner,2.0TFSI was on watchdog as using 1L oil every 600 miles ,back of car gets covered in soot,loads of info online

[@richardhead4555]

the subscriber needs to check the age of the 2nd hand tyres

[@douglasstarr5620]

On a 5k car yes that’s acceptable on a 17k car I would expect new mid range tyres. With the amount of pot holes you have no idea if the carcass is damaged.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

My mates bought a porsche cayenne, 48k,he calls round and it's all look at this, all the tyres were nearly bald, this is porsche main dealer, he went back and it's no, they're legal, he had to swallow it,

[@ChopsGarage]

Sounds right

[@roystonvehicles9129]

@ChopsGarage yes bud

[@rickyrall1971]

How much is the Audi

[@mchipelo]

I always put part-worn tyres on my cars. We have larger retailers that basically only sell part-worn and you can choose from the racks the ones you want fitted. I always get very recent ones (1/1.5 years old) and its still a 40/50% saving on a new tyre from the same brand vs brand new. I've never seen budget brands at those places, only known brand tyres.

[@1maico1]

How did he manage to scape the wheels driving into your place? I thought it was supposed to be the scepter'd isle, eden and demi-paradise...

[@chrisgermann6658]

It's hiding the timing chain lol.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

You want 4x4 s bud not convertables atm, I've just put an Mx5 up tho, might sell, might not.

[@davidwainwright2816]

Sell it. Don’t let someone else take a profit

[@ChopsGarage]

Only profit if it does not come back though

[@roystonvehicles9129]

I don't think I've seen you turn a car down yet bud, maybe start being selective, be alert to that models issues, rather than I'll buy anything, you'll save on warranty issues and have an easier life.

[@ChopsGarage]

I never turn down anything just make sure have enough margin if I opt to trade rather than retail

[@roystonvehicles9129]

@@ChopsGarage yes bud

[@KarmaCorner]

I think the colour code for the roof is bird poo blue🫨👍

[@ChopsGarage]

Oh dear

[@johne1956]

Surely the oil spillage on the engine cover is a giveaway that this is burning oil. Someone has just been topping it up so regully they can't be bothered to clean up the spilled oil.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

Yes, it points to, oh no not again, I cant be bothered.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

Do a full report prior to buying bud, including a salvage report with pictures, it'll open your eyes, do it before you spend 1000s,a lot of cars are now cat cars but insurance company isn't declaring it to hpi, a salvage report will show if it's been thru a yard, I got badly caught out a while ago, hpi clear, but cat s at copart, pictures were all there, customer found out and I had to refund, I'd bought it at auction as hpi clear, auction didn't want to know, as they only did a basic check, 300 quid indemnity as well, worthless. On that audi I'd have thought, convertable (winter) bad engines, bad gear box, poor body, cat N and I'd have given it a miss, but if you can get out of it with profit then good luck to you bud.

[@DanStep-v4k]

So his trusted mate sold him a pup? Is there no honesty in the trade? You need your own channel Roy!

[@roystonvehicles9129]

@DanStep-v4k I do put videos on of cars I've got for sale but not anything like these guys do.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

​@@DanStep-v4kI don't bother with other traders bud, they'll have your trousers down, I know loads and they're an absolute nightmare.

[@stevegarside2471]

A vehicle smart 99p check gives you all the info you need compared to that rip off car vertical rob dog one.

[@jamesmacdonald1309]

Podcast??? Tell me more!

[@ChopsGarage]

Check out Shifting Metal 2.0

[@liamegan4303]

Hello from Ireland, James. I like the colour and it looks clean enough, nice looking engine. Enjoy James lol. 🙏🙏👌👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@ChopsGarage]

Thanks 👍

[@roystonvehicles9129]

Did he tell you bud it's cat N? It looks like it's been painted, plenty of owners, burning oil, convertable in winter? Hope it was megga cheap mate, 1500 quid, kiss of death when that cat marker comes up on the advert, at least it's not an S anyway bud, ha, ha.

[@ChopsGarage]

Why do you think it's burning oil

[@roystonvehicles9129]

​@@ChopsGarageI'd be willing to bet mate, they all do with that engine, rev it up and look for blue smoke and have a smell at the back, I'd be amazed if it's OK. You want to avoid vws and audis with TSFI engines mate.

[@nffc6717]

@@roystonvehicles9129 rubbish had a mk5 gti on 180k original turbo didn’t use oil owned it for 8 years and put 100k on it.

[@shabba890]

Ea888 engine? Same as Octavia? Well known for problems this era of car.

[@stepheng8779]

Audi's had a bit of a life & not an easy one by looks of it 😮

[@ChopsGarage]

Bloody hell you think that's had hard life you can't of seen many 14yr old cars lol

[@shabba890]

Exactly. Car looks modern but it's still 14 years old!

[@stepheng8779]

​@@shabba890you looked at its history? Had more crashes than the stock market.

[@shabba890]

@@stepheng8779 nah if I was looking to buy id always do a vcar check though

[@Dave.london]

I would never use or recommend part worn tyres there the only thing keeping you on the road

[@joshua6244]

Unless you have just put new tyres on your car, you have part worn tyres on it.

[@markbro4427]

Depends where you get them from and who you know, personally I prefer and buy new but a friend who does alot of mot work and knows the local tyre guys always seems to get matching sets of premium tyres....only this week he got matching Michelin's and Continental 18" for £140 a set of 4 fitted, the price of one tyre...to be fair they did look very good but a couple did have plug repairs....Any time I've tried to get them they offer me crappy no name Chinese things.😂

[@ChopsGarage]

But surely every tyre being used on the road is part worn

[@gaddmeister]

​@@ChopsGarageBut if you buy it new, you know where it comes from. The damage from tyres isn't just tread, it's collapsed sidewalls, cracking , separating. I've just put a full set of new decent budget tyres on and the ride is transformed. You do not know where a part worn has come from! They could have been running them at low pressure, thus compromising and damaging the integrity of the tyre, which causes splits down to the cords etc. Would you want that on your conscience? Not sure I would ever buy a car off you.

[@Clodhopping]

​@@gaddmeister But any used car might have decent tread on the tyres that have been kerbed by careless owners and you'd never know what the structure of the tyre was like. Personally I avoid any budget tyres and go for known brands in mid-upper range. If someone can't afford half decent tyres then they probably can't afford to run a car.

[@harry-james-books]

Part-worn are an unknown entity - and pointless, given something like an Imperial All Season is 50 quid and will do 90% of what a Michelin will do

[@DaDa-David]

That convertible in winter crap! FFS does anyone truly know someone that buys their car buy the seasons?! Utter guff! Reminds me of the grumpy old F****** that used to say more extras, more to go wrong! Best part of a happy lucky 25yrs driving 'loaded' cars - the bells and whistles were never a prob.

[@chrishart8548]

Some of the stuff if it goes wrong it just means you don't have the extra feature anymore. Like cruise control, tyre warning, heated seats, heated windscreen, air conditioning. Parking sensors. Fog lights, blind spot monitor. Reverse camera. Sat nav. Electric folding mirrors. Doesn't matter if it fails. It just becomes car without these features.

[@ChopsGarage]

I'd have to agree

[@gaddmeister]

Part worn tyres from a dealer is an absolute no no! You don't know where that tyre comes from. I bought some once and once only. There was a vibration at speed and on inspection a huge egg in the tyre. They were Michelin's. I would steer clear of a dealer prepared to put part worms on! Parts is a different kettle of fish, however, you wouldn't put a part worn cambelt on, would you?

[@Mach_One_Photos]

most of the used cars sold in this country have part worn tyres on them. when a car has been used the tyres are part worn and you don't know where that tyre comes from or how it has been driven before the car was traded in. l could batter my tyres up and down kerbs every day and the sidewalls could be shot to bits but you would never know untill it lets go. so part worns could be safer than a well used tyre fitted to a used car because you can fully inspect a part worn for sidewall damage and puncture repairs before fitting and a used tyre on a second hand car could be hiding all sorts of horrors that you will never know about

[@jabberwockytdi8901]

Check the tyres when you buy, negotiate the price accordingly and buy decent tyres yourself after. DON'T BUY SH*T BUDGET TYRES!!!! look at the wet grip rating of Chinesium stuff vs proper tyres, you want to have flattened some ones kid coz you cheaped out on tyres ? can be many meters difference in wet braking distance, never mind how quickly that garbage wears out. makes 80 quid difference on say 16" tyres between the cheapest possible and a half way decent 'A' wet-rated tyre for a set of 4. £350 instead of £200 gets you the best tyres vs the cheapest, will last longer and perform much much better in all conditions.

[@markbro4427]

Not always the case, I binned 2.5 year old Michelin Latitudes with very low miles as the walls and between the treads were covered in cracks....£620 wasted. I only buy Toyo and Landsail tyres now, they're a good higher end mid range tyre that suit my needs...approx £90 each for my size.

[@alancrow3544]

they love oil these engines

[@dinointhetube]

Is it just me or do you seem to be getting a lot of cabriolets lately. Winter here now? Seems like dealers trying to off their cabriolet stock to you.

[@IRVisionPrints]

How much you wanting for it? 🤔

[@ChopsGarage]

It's going to be traded out at 2500 as previous cat n

[@IRVisionPrints]

@ aw that’s a shame. Looks alright for the vid… bar the wheel

[@roystonvehicles9129]

​@@ChopsGaragesmoke it around bud for a bit, if it's not burning oil and box is OK, it's in the 3k,s even tho it's a cat N people aren't as bothered as a cat s car, just check it out.

[@ChopsGarage]

@@roystonvehicles9129 bang on. Just don't want to take it over 100k though bud

[@roystonvehicles9129]

@@ChopsGarage no don't, they don't like them after 100k,i think people put 100k limit in searches so you miss loads of people, daft really, I've just gone to the auction for 2 cars, 55k and 71k,both engines had head problems.

[@Tubs34]

Who puts part worn tyres on a 17k car?

[@jontimms3744]

So they match a part worn car…

[@exgtt2061]

⁠On a 17k car sold retail? It’s penny pinching imo.

[@ChopsGarage]

I'd agree that it's would not be my move but the comments regarding the cars value are really a moot point. There is normally 1500 to 2k gross margin in a car right from 5k to 20k so it makes little difference what it's retail price is to how much you can spend in prep

[@dannycrooks8462]

Trade that Audi 😂

[@ChopsGarage]

Will do

[@bleakyfinder2692]

Estimated Value £4,150 - £5,188

[@ChopsGarage]

? Via what? Autotrader Retail is 5700

[@romeczek848]

That's how you check cars ?????😅😂😂😂😅seriously????

[@ChopsGarage]

?

[@fatwalletboy2]

Always suss when theyre on 98 or 99k

[@ChopsGarage]

😂 what do you mean

[@mikerittmanreborn4955]

USED CAR DEALERS/SALESMAN ARE ABSOLUTE RATS 😂😂

[@ChopsGarage]

Interesting, as my experience it's it the public's that are the liars , dumping cars with faults on dealers, non declaring insurance markers. Non declaring outstanding finance Damaging then trying to claim etc etc etc.

[@rarecockneyguvnor4945]

People that fix cars too are Lying cheats too

[@aceace5457]

you cant beat german very reliable cars .

[@shabba890]

Good joke tell us another

[@ianf397]

That is just another bit of German self serving propaganda that the British public have fallen for in the last 50 years !!

[@aceace5457]

@@shabba890 true lol.