What lies ahead for Putin? With Ian Bremmer, Bill Browder & Nina Kuryata | CogX Festival 2023

[@johnnygreen1376]

Bill Browder for president :) He's a champ.

[@Aluminata]

It's a complete mystery to me as to why Prigozhin would take to the air over Russia. It was an act of suicidal oversight.

[@longandshort6639]

Many think that Prigozhin is still alive. His cunning use of disguises got him out. A man with a hunchback, an eye patch, wooden leg and a big red beard and a plastic parrot on his shoulder was seen walking away from the airplane just before take off in Mali.

[@kbecker9971]

Another possibility is he was already dead before they put him on the plane.

[@toby9999]

I suspect he overestimated his importance to putin.

[@buckpittenterprises7225]

cokane my son. Too much Cokane )))

[@bubisav123]

You think that he is really dead? Is there a possibility that everything was staged?

[@false_binary]

Excellent session. I recently returned to finish a long abandoned PoliSci BA, was astounded at how little we discussed techno-politics. I brought this up multiple times with my professors and they agreed but did not seem particularly engaged on the topic. Tech LITERALLY is driving our politics at all levels.

[@ralphvandereb66]

Total bs

[@markovizniuk8008]

ÀQQ

[@janicetribble461]

U

[@roberts7961]

Could listen to Bill all day

[@nathaliek798]

Me too. What a brilliant persona he is! Loved his book too.

[@roberts7961]

Love to put Bill and Putin in the ring together, Bill would break his jaw lol@@nathaliek798

[@prasannahidellarachchi8086]

Looking at the number of people attending this what ever you call this meeting discussion etc, any one can imagine how serious people have taken it.

[@Viktor-bb]

Я не понимаю их,когда убивают детей в Палестине

[@geofromnj7377]

One can only hope that Bill Browder's assessment of Putin's state of mind is accurate. I am in total agreement with Ian Bremmer,'s assessment of the power of grievance and AI and like him, I am very worried about the future of democracy in America and elsewhere.

[@arimoff]

Putins state of mind is much more rational than bidens and any western Leftist. Look in the mirror if you want to blame anyone

[@Theyarealreadyhere]

Democracy is an illusion, the system is rigged

[@PaulHarpur]

20:12 20:14

[@PaulHarpur]

23:39 ad😊

[@Bruce-nu8pw]

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[@warrenwalker8170]

nato tried to tell ukraine how to attack on the battle field and that proved to be big losses and instead Ukraine is doing it their way , so when you say nato doesn't think Ukraine can get back to their borders - I say watch and learn Slava Ukraine

[@markkierznowski6121]

Nazis.

[@arimoff]

The west send hundreds of thousands of ukrainians to slaughter and now they are blaming ukraine. The west, anglosaxons in particular are pure garbage, you're the evidence. Putin tries to tell you, dont invite ukraine in to nato, stay away from their borders, you didnt listen. So now sit down and shut up

[@kevinhorgan2770]

Just say no drugs.

[@VajrahahaShunyata]

Heroyam Slava!! Ukraine is unbreakable

[@ТанечкаНовчик]

​@@VajrahahaShunyatayes, what's left of territory and people

[@James-sh4zf]

EU actually provides the majority of the financial aid. That said, if the main supply of munitions is cut off, then no amount of financiak aid would prevent Russia from slowly winning the war of attrition

[@Martin-qm2lg]

Great commentary, 2024 could be a major, historic and pivotal big year. Who knows what will happen. Everything is in play!

[@fronabulax63]

even WW3 and the extermination of mankind

[@austJW]

In a month its Winter, and then the Ukraine offensive is over. Russia took 160,000 kms and Ukraine has taken 282 kms or 0.0001% of what Russia took. Nothing is in play. Everybody owes their allegiance to Putin and the killing of Wagner boss has cemented his grip on power.

[@Anthonythumb]

@@aslampervez2294Vlad the failure.

[@ivanoleaanimator]

@@fronabulax63that’s what these people want.

[@casadefreeman601]

😊

[@karljensen893]

Democracies being driven by large corporations .. explains a lot ... but probably better than singular greed driven by mental problems..

[@jockauld3966]

Are you referring to Biden or his controlers?

[@maxhammertruth]

Moderator asks rambling questions. Browder and Bremer are quite insightful.

[@asterixdogmatix1073]

100%.

[@slangelands4255]

Great discussion. Thank you.

[@vickielewis3848]

Highly informative and thought provoking. Quality listening. Thank you. 👋👱‍♀️🇺🇲

[@pal6636]

That heading is pretty accurate . What " lies " are ahead for Putin ?

[@Viktor-bb]

А байдена если он не верит сми

[@williamgatheist1314]

Should D. Trump be elected or even get close to being elected, it would be time to question the over "IQ' level of the American electorate. Hillary was right when she referred to Trump supporters as deplorable!

[@lesliewoinarowicz7018]

Are you serious child?

[@jayp4114]

We assume you are using the gifts of your "High I.Q." living off the tax dollars of your neighbors.

[@vuqarnbiyev6029]

A very interesting analysis. Thanks a lot.

[@sammenter1]

Excellent analysis. Thank you so much Bill Browder and Ian Bremmer. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇬🇧

[@shimondauber8984]

U must B Joking. 2 "experts" holding non neutral views, can never be accurate.

[@JayDeeChannel]

Russias experience in Ukraine is like your neighbour burgling your house but they’re not able to escape.. send the atacms to Ukraine asap!!!

[@Zingalamadumi]

You are not making sense...

[@charleslatourelle8207]

They are also running out of money! The ruble is very weak and inflation is on the rise

[@ТанечкаНовчик]

You wish❤😊

[@margaretlamb2432]

Love listening to Mr. Browder. Interesting man and we need to listen to what he says 🥰

[@marioformosa4259]

He's a wannabe oligarch , kicked out of Russia

[@W_Bin]

There are a large number of expat politicians willing to help in Russia.

[@mitchellhawkes22]

Tremendous, eloquent performance by Ian. Bill did his usual top-notch job.

[@marcelo.n]

Always pleasing to hear Bill Browder - although the subject itself is such an unfortunate one. Very clear, very objective, and yet with such in-depth knowledge of all that is going on in Ukraine. Great presentation!

[@rahulpotter1]

U.S. : lets keep fighting till last Ukrainian standard.

[@barrycoetzee36]

Great discussion 👍

[@donaldmac1250]

i think putin is the0 most underestimated leader of the last 100 years..im tjinking that he will be around for a long time despite thej wishful thonking

[@jamestiburon443]

A fate similar to Prygoshin; I would bet.

[@berndhofmann752]

Putin will not escalate!!!! This is just anxiety!!!!! Russia wil have a very strong Nato answer!!!!

[@CindyKalbakdalen-zs9us]

I believe trump will be in prison.

[@jayp4114]

And Hunter and Joe Biden will share a cell in Guantanamo Bay together, as well

[@nathaliek798]

They should have invited Mr. Garry Kasparov to the panel. He knows crazy kleptocratic putin even better. He is his true opponent for ages!

[@AlexdaCunha]

"What LIES ahead for Putin"... was that intended as a pun? 🤭

[@Theyarealreadyhere]

Lies = western propaganda aka this interview

[@theostapel]

A certain answer here - for all of us, really: So the formula is - Death - Bardo (after life) and Rebirth. We learn lessons - and hopefully correct - our strange tendencies and then transform totally - so that we learn - to 'love Him who loves all and love all - whom He loves.' (Ram Chandra)

[@gambaridup]

The old sayin: "..empirically, no human being get out of this world alive.." Putin's enemies wished him a violent death like Col Ghadaffi, Libya or Saddam Hussein former Iraqi president, and Putin is fully aware of that.

[@delhog6161]

This session was to short it needed to be an hour longer. 🇬🇧👍

[@amorosogombe9650]

The defeatist frustrate me. The Ukrainians will win IF we equip them!

[@austJW]

the us is sending illegal cluster shells to Ukraine, it just bought 500,000 shells from South Korea and then it has nothing. How do you fight an artillery war with no shells? You have equipped them and its failed.

[@qingzhou9983]

Ukraine could not win before they Defeat Russia after it uses its Nukes. What is the chance of that?

[@grahamstrouse1165]

@@austJWThe US, Russian & Ukraine never signed onto this agreement. And Russia’s using cluster munitions anyway. Now crawl back into your bottle, Vanya, and let the liquor finish its work.

[@andrewalderman9489]

@@austJW and Russia is getting shells (of questionable quality) from Noth Korea, US manufacture of shells is also increasing.

[@berndhofmann752]

Support for Ukraine 🇺🇦 now is absolutely necessary!!!! Putin is desperate!!! Because he knows, that he has made a very big fault! And I think that Russians themselves are planning to get rid of him!!!! I think that Europeans 🇪🇺 will do it, because they are more aware they have to take more responsibility!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@JimTimber]

puketin is barking mad and (best case scenario) will end up in a mental hospital with a shaved head and wearing a straitjacket.

[@rahulpotter1]

18 months and America and West hasn't been able regime change in Russia.

[@williegomu759]

That was their goal but big time fail 😂😂😂😂😂

[@425z5]

It’s not a great bet but the US was in Afghanistan for 20 years Vietnam 10 years etc. etc.

[@lebonericardoramakgala8160]

i dont think Putin needs to deploy a nuclear weapon to escalate he can just destroy one of the three nuclear power plants inside ukraine

[@junegoddarddevon8306]

This is scary someone that down witted

[@kenchen5268]

If those on the stage pre-set the western democracy is the golden rule for the world then all those discussions are wasted of time. The old saying is: one bowl can’t make sound, so today’s satiation in Europe is not ALL Putin’s fault, U.S. has unshirkable responsibility.

[@Viktor-bb]

А кто видел эти правила😂

[@micaeloliveira2727]

Navalni is the same thing as Putin 😮 he's also not the solution

[@dedeehamill6067]

Do you remember the Cuban missle crisis? I do!

[@Viktor-bb]

Куба возле Америки и что живут лучше 😂

[@giselapfeifer4666]

What about asking: What lies ahead of the US?!? That should concern Americans most of all..

[@andrewalderman9489]

One issue at a time; this is a European panel, not an American one.

[@transputin]

Isn't Trump going to prison before he can run?

[@austJW]

No. Also what happens to Biden during an election if Putin launches a movement (eastern units redeployed to Belarus) to attack Kiev ? Look how much they initially took, but now with 5,000,000 artillery shells & rockets vs 500,000 artillery shells. Would Biden still win?

[@Lothnar5070]

No

[@putte2164]

Hopefully

[@davidlj53]

Not a chance, he will win in 2024

[@putte2164]

​@@davidlj53If so it will prove the us is a joke country😅😅😅

[@arthurm4726]

One thing not mentioned..the high probability no one would carry out a nuclear strike order…

[@stephenlight647]

Interesting. Just how high do you think that is?

[@arthurm4726]

@@stephenlight647 about *this* high.

[@henkiejong1136]

Strange that in America democracy is now almost the same as in Russia, political opponents are send to jail. And the people just let it happen .

[@16252]

You think Trump lives like Navalny. I invite you to spend a day in a Russian prison, and tell us about how much it resembled living in a billionaire's villa in Florida.

[@robertginsburg8113]

Your comment shows that either you don't live in the U.S. or understand how things operate in the U.S. or you are an authoritarian bot spreading lies. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

[@Theyarealreadyhere]

​@@16252thick af

[@nc01sadh]

@,henkiejong.. go to Russia and chant "Putin go to jail" and go to US and chant "Biden go to jail", and see what happens. You are clearly deluded supporter of fascist dictatorVladimir putin.

[@ryan-pf9ud]

Is this a reference to the criminal Trump?

[@varoujankotoyan555]

ask the russian mothers to tell him to send his on half chechen son who is old enough to go to the front line. he will not send his own son, so rusian mothers will over trow him.

[@sheikhrahman7990]

Excellent Analysis Ian! Personal and regime security.

[@ChimwemweMunthali-x9z]

The most powerful leader on earth, Long Live Vladimir, Africa respect you

[@bg1616]

"Back down" can equally mean "to yield", and the former conjures up cowardly undertones, but the "to yield" conjures up adaptability to a situation.

[@red.blue.seahorse1951]

One reason to get really tough on Oligarch's investments outside Russia , is that if all or as many as possible loopholes were closed, there is an incentive to get them to organize and remove Putin out of their own self-interest, without any more soldiers or citizens being killed

[@mavrom4537]

thanks, the ruling elites made a great job

[@Bjowolf2]

He will probably find a window of opportunity to take his first - and last! - flying lessons from 😂

[@henkiejong1136]

Perhaps Putin is human enough and clever enough not to send nukes to the west, for now.

[@dorothymoore1744]

Well since he wants to be remembered in rhe history books, it's a no go because there'd be no one alive to print/write the book.

[@W_Bin]

They also have ex PM of Russia willing to go back.

[@lynj-c9153]

Excellent!

[@lnv1957]

Compare to the talks & share made by Col.D.Mac Gregor & Marine Officer-Scott Ritter,this sharing is low-graded!!

[@shooster5884]

How could anyone listen to McGregor and Ritter without throwing up.. they admire Putin and genocide.. l am certain that neither of them would or will condemn bombing yesterday by the Russians of people at a wake in Ukraine killing 56 people.

[@williegomu759]

You're right ,low graded speech. They dont match Scott and col. Mc Gregor

[@sayitasitis100]

You know that this was a pointless discussion as soon as the moderator set off with a claim that Putin failed to take Kiev in three days, when did Putin ever make this claim ? another exercise of opinionated nonsense motivated not by serious academic study and evaluation but by personal animus.

[@shawns0762]

Every idiot on Russian television was saying that, some said even less time

[@politicalfoolsandhorses]

I agree with you that this wars more or less a pointless discussion. Re taking Kiev, that could mean different things to diferent people. He was certainly a couple of miles away from Kiev but what he wanted, as I understand it was, to quash the current administration of Ukraine - Zelensky - intsall a puppet government that would slowly but ultimately suppress all free MEDIA, neuter JUDICIAL independence, destroy or drastically CIVIL SOCIETY and suppressed all Political Opposition same as he did in Russia so that he remains supreme untill he dies. Remember that if Putin were to lose control of the Media, The Judiciary, Civil Societies, and Opposition leaders and not to be able to somehow get rid of their leaders; what he did to Magnitsky and why he died (since everything is documented) would be enough to jail him for life. And now the illicit invasion of Ukaine - the invasion point alone - which no one supports including China, India and all; and the atrocities that obviously followed since today we can all see Huge Ukrainian cities completely burned and wiped out for ourselves on TV; that was a huge mistake which has placed him in real tangible dire straits. And unfortunately he cannot turn back time.

[@sherion80]

When did Putin say he's at war with Ukraine? He's talking only about special operation, troll. And of course he planned to fight a long, disastruous war for russia.

[@ivanoleaanimator]

Greatest Historical Misjudgement: Afghanistan, Iraq, the threat of Russia and China and the strengthening of BRICS. Coping is always a sad thing to watch and hear. These powerful voices are lying without a worry in their tone.

[@andrewalderman9489]

China is in an economic down spin. Russia isn't in much better. BRICS is a joke, since China and India hate each other, and South Africa is a mess.

[@livondiramerian6999]

Truth tellers are blessed.

[@frankstella8947]

Well said the only way to expell putin is for Russia to loose the war so give unlimited support to ucraine

[@kennethskuse4710]

Brilliant.

[@adamesd3699]

I was worried this would be a fiasco of a discussion. And I was not disappointed.

[@SkinE-Vadee-Veechee]

The big question is why do we care about what Putin thinks when Russia has completely dissolved as a Country. Ukraine will soon wash them down but the Russian mindset is similar to a hermit kingdom like NK.

[@j.dunlop8295]

North Korean weapons are really poor, when they attacked south Korea, half the N.Korean weapons didn't hit their target and explode! (An island, was the target)

[@samuragreecetheshowisreall5096]

End the war innocent people are dying we don’t need analysis when innocent people keep dying

[@555usher]

Since this Bill guy was kicked out of Russia he has made his whole career talking about how bad Putin is.

[@putte2164]

Hes right though

[@denillefleming2942]

He left because of the corruption in Russia. His attorney, Maginsky was killed by Putin while trying to investigate corruption. Mike Flynn wanted to get rid of the Maginsky Act which levied sanctions against Russia. He plead guilty twice as a foreign agent for Russia. Pardoned by trump along with Manafort and Stone.

[@dboynette]

He puts his life on the line every day for his new ‘career’

[@dutchvanderlinde5004]

Glory to Ukraine! 🇺🇦

[@Bluefox1978]

Navalny??? What about Kodorkovsky, Ponomarev or Kasparov?

[@charlesbeaudry3263]

Putin is ex-KGB and was raised in the communist system and in that kind of system the level of insecurity in the face of uncertainty is extremely high. Faced with the possibility of regime change and personal security he will negotiate. He proved it with Pregozhin.

[@ТанечкаНовчик]

USSR had socialist system. Communism is utopia, exists in EU, where some families never had a single job thanks to generous benefits.

[@charlesbeaudry3263]

@@ТанечкаНовчик Same thing in "capitalist" USA. Some farmers are paid not to farm. My point is even if what you say is true it does not mean what you think nor can you draw conclusions from an anecdotal example, which BTW you do not even point to.

[@Viktor-bb]

Режимы по всему миру меняли и что сейчас возникает ядерная война

[@Viktor-bb]

​@@ТанечкаНовчика Европа и США это эталон мира😂

[@lubamcmaugh9448]

It is unimaginable to me that the USA would even CONSIDER re electing the corrupt, disgraced Trump😂

[@felipearbustopotd]

04:44 Raw panic, I doubt that very much. Rouge state, but only to those in the West! On a humanitarian point, Pootin started this war, he is totally to blame, he and his enablers MUST face the Hague and Ruzzia MUST pay Ukraine war reparations and the borders reinstated as they were prior to 2014. Thank you for uploading and sharing.

[@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind]

Thanks, KZbin commenter, for this world-class insight.

[@martingonzalez2850]

America first started it in the 90's when they expanded NATO in the East. They have had their tanks parked on Russia's lawn since 2014. Wake up, you brainwashed numpty.

[@barryc1968]

When I look at Zelensky I see a strong man when I look at Putin I see a small frightened man. When I look at Ukraine I see a country with a bright future, when I look at Russia I see a declining third world country with very little hope.

[@galanis38]

Keep dreaming.

[@ian7379]

@@galanis38 Russia has no future - oil no one will want soon, a declining and aged population, alcoholism, serf-like mentality, all educated people fleeing, and a pariah state. I do hear it is easy to get a Russian passport - perhaps you should get one - your ticket to paradise perhaps? Or more likely you already have one.

[@andyhowells1141]

Absolutely !

[@davidcoomber4050]

Perhaps an eye test in overdue

[@MoralScienceEducation]

Brilliant insights shared, which resonate, on the topic of AI being used by, for example, authoritarian regimes. Beyond the current and ongoing initiatives to regulate the (monstrous) capacities in AI, do we have any plans carved out to shortlist Governments, Corporates or Associations, who currently develop, deploy or emable the use of bad cyber governance or AI, unauthorised, illegal, and/or "tweaked" to the detriment of our inner most conscience and privacy, breaking all human rights, relationships, and chances at finding or establishing new relationships, new business, and new work, including in foreign, grand nations. Thank you🙏

[@josephphoenix1376]

AI& Dictators equal The World of the Terminator 😡

[@Viktor-bb]

Причём тут И.И

[@amorosogombe9650]

Ukraine should aim to rout Russia before the US election and Biden should help them do so and win the election off the back of it.

[@christopheryellman533]

That is what the US/Ukraine have been trying to do, and it is failing badly. What is your next bright idea?

[@alileevil]

The war in Ukraine is a polarizing issue in the states. One side doesn’t want to be involved while the other wants a repeat of Iraq and Afghanistan. The us could barely keep Afghanistan together. If they go in to Ukraine, it would be a disaster. The only way out is a settlement where Ukraine commits to remain neutral and stay out of nato and Russia withdraws from eastern Ukraine.

[@hoodlifter23]

Ukraine destroying the effectiveness of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Have breached Russian defenses and driving towards Tormak. Ukraine is steadily winning.

[@hoodlifter23]

@@christopheryellman533Nope. Ukraine is winning.

[@alileevil]

@@hoodlifter23LOL the media has been lying about Ukraine's so called "counter offensive". The fact is there has been no progress and Russia's Black Sea fleet is not any less effective today than it was a month ago. Russia is a military machine, its not some backwater country like Iraq. Ukraine is not even winning, its just that the Russians are not advancing as they have reserved troops in case NATO joins the war. Ukraine is stuck in a quagmire. With millions fleeing the country as refugees and young men dying in battle, the future of the country looks bleak. The only way out is a peace deal. Earlier Ukraine had more of a bargaining chip, but now they will have to agree to Russia's terms.

[@jimmymcgee4101]

I am seeing human life means nothing to this meeting

[@Freddie_Boy5301]

bill and ian wow!

[@BahrizalShadow]

Call him, Pootin, rouge or bandit or beast or devil. He couldn't care less. Simply because he is too insane to see the realities.

[@morrisanderson818]

So what do you call Biden, Pooden,coz he's full of $&#?😅

[@lindacadogan6616]

Apparently not insane, just totally psychopathic.

[@VajrahahaShunyata]

Psychopaths are by definition insane...

[@garethdavies3173]

⁠​⁠@@VajrahahaShunyata psychopaths are detached from empathy and have skewed ideas about feeling insane people are detached from reality

[@dudcharleville]

What lies ahead period? 😮

[@terry499]

I think we need a Superman to save us. Superman, please come and save us.

[@Meg-c6b]

This is exactly what america is all about. The state of idiots.

[@AghaQuayum]

How many died in Ukraine Mr. Expert.

[@goforit7774]

Dismantling the Ukraine is the key to peace in Europe

[@amirdasuki1148]

well bremmer those who you are mentioning are people like you and me they are so free to think for the best of their interest ,so what is eating you?

[@samv2777]

Popularity soars in all parts of world

[@lorenagonzalez71]

she is clearly not qualified as a moderator in this conversation.

[@eutiquianovillarin1366]

ALL GREAT B.LUNDERER JUST MAKING A LIVING .

[@douglascraig1587]

The UK will continue its support for Ukraine regardless of the American elections.

[@patmdoda9567]

UK is a lapdogs of the US. As soon the US changes its foreign policy the UK will follow suit

[@Viktor-bb]

Великобритания особенно ми 6

[@douglascraig1587]

@@Viktor-bb No No GREEDY RUSSIA NOT ONE WESTERN STEP FORWARD MR PUTIN 🙄 GLORY UKRAINE ..

[@jeanwissinger6013]

He's a white hat. His future is secure.

[@thomasschaefer9312]

Educate yourself. Read Mr Browders books.

[@adilsakhi1155]

I have a problem to understand her questions..what national is she from.. I understand English

[@MarkFarrington-hb2ne]

Bill Browder MI5/ MI6 asset and Ian Bremner (never heard of him?)

[@johnlawrence8738]

Chronic paranoia and such people will never trust anyone

[@robertatkins9419]

What unbelievable arrogance these people display, still presuming to be able to 'delve into understanding Putin's mindset', even though he has always been miles ahead of them, and they've been wrong every single time. Still, what else can they do but try to keep the pretence going?

[@andrews1376]

Putin will lose his pointless war and Russia will collapse as a state. Just saying 🤣

[@lorenagonzalez71]

robertaatkins ey, butcher putin's admirers not allowed with their diatribes here.

[@ivanoleaanimator]

It’s a shocking display of coping with a declining super power.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

Go crawl back into your bridge, little troll.

[@robertatkins9419]

@@ivanoleaanimator Agreed, if we both mean the same super power

[@steffanhoffmann]

"Lies ahead" sort of a play on words. Double Entendres

[@davisoaresalves5179]

Ian is the best.

[@austinb1565]

like trump said hes tired of usa being the policeman of the world. if america stopped aid then maybe these other wealthy nato members could actually contribute and would still be able to win without support from the usa. were always paying the bill and yet were not even in a dangerous situation at home. i respect nato and think its great but its not fair for us at home to give 5x the amount of money while other countries such as germany are very wealthy too.

[@TomWeir-v5o]

One thing i have noticed about Putin is he at the moment is taking every opertunity to make a speech on the world stage. Is it because he is losing the action stuff and blindly trying to ignore it as if it is not happening. Just an observation?

[@marioformosa4259]

Silly. Yes.

[@stanprins1278]

We all support Palestine

[@EvaristoMwila]

Putin sick he can do it America should and allies plan well with Ukraine